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Anonymous No.717324675 >>717324765 >>717324928 >>717324984 >>717325263 >>717325680 >>717325710 >>717325814 >>717325854 >>717325857 >>717325964 >>717326123 >>717326392 >>717326582 >>717326959 >>717326976 >>717326998 >>717327018 >>717327165 >>717327183 >>717327302 >>717327908 >>717328091 >>717328154 >>717328743 >>717328840 >>717329042 >>717329609 >>717331207 >>717332652 >>717333042 >>717334328 >>717335328
Why is FF7 the most popular game of the series?
Anonymous No.717324762 >>717329195
Play them all and find out, retard.
Anonymous No.717324765 >>717324854 >>717324964 >>717325656
>>717324675 (OP)
legendary waifus
legendary soundtrack
legendary twist
great tragedy ( aeriths death )
legendary and menacing villian
relatable and autistic main character
Anonymous No.717324854
>>717324765
your pic is not FF7.
Anonymous No.717324928
>>717324675 (OP)
NEW ORIGINAL GOOD STORY
8 and 9 also have that, and they are quite popular too
it's all about the story, sirs
Anonymous No.717324964 >>717325120 >>717325214 >>717329310 >>717330792
>>717324765
The twist and villain in FF7 are both bad though
Anonymous No.717324984
>>717324675 (OP)
I was stoked cause guns.
Anonymous No.717325054
It's a lot of people's first FF so it's the favorite
Anonymous No.717325120
>>717324964
Sephiroth is a beautiful goth lady and she's a good villain.
Anonymous No.717325214 >>717325548
>>717324964
the OG sephiroth+Jenova is great. there are so many great scene (all ruined in 7R)
the pathetic homosexual stalker nomura bastardization in modern appearances is bad.
Anonymous No.717325263 >>717325467
>>717324675 (OP)
Babies first jrpg.
Not even shitposting. That's literally it.
6, 8, 9 and 10 are all far superior.
Anonymous No.717325467 >>717325664 >>717327368
>>717325263
I've played 10 and it's way worse.
Slow pacing, sluggish and frustrating, way too many custcenes, worse gameplay, the sphere grid is trash.
nothing has even compared to FF7s materia system.

the only good things about X are the graphics and being able to swap out party members.
Anonymous No.717325548
>>717325214
>ESL rambling
Good morning, sir.
Anonymous No.717325656
>>717324765
>great tragedy ( aeriths death )
This bitch doesn't even really die lmao, Japanese are such pussies when it comes to death in media.
Anonymous No.717325664 >>717326256 >>717326315
>>717325467
Wrong on all accounts
Not to mention all the characters in 10 are better and more likeable
Tifa literally has no personality
Anonymous No.717325680
>>717324675 (OP)
Best JRPG party ever made + Kino settings with Kino aesthethics and Kino OST, the combat is very good too even though Rebirth mogs it
Anonymous No.717325710
>>717324675 (OP)
immense amount of marketing leading up to the release, propped up by sony
Anonymous No.717325814
>>717324675 (OP)
Marketing. FF7 was the original aggressive shilling campaign.
Anonymous No.717325854
>>717324675 (OP)
First 3D FF, impressive marketing for its time, coming off prime SNES FFs. These got loads of people playing it from the get-go.
As for posterity, at the end of the day it's still the best mainline so it helps. It's my GOAT in general but I want to believe my still hueg backlog might bring me something to surpass it, even if I've started having my doubts. I saved IX for last all these years with high hopes of it surpassing VII for me, sadly it did not (still a top 3-4 mainline).
Anonymous No.717325857
>>717324675 (OP)
it was cool
Anonymous No.717325938
I miss the y2k scare and everyone going crazy it was fun around that time
Anonymous No.717325964 >>717332938
>>717324675 (OP)
The pretty FMV's were state of the art for the time, which pleased the graphics whores and consolewar folk. It was the first release of it's series to break into 3D, and back then everyone was clamoring for how franchises would make the jump. Anime was beginning to take off in a huge way in the latter half of the 90's, and the anime look of the characters pulled in the young teens getting into anime. It had an villain that edgy teenagers could pretend to roleplay in IRC. And if happened to have some decent music and the materia system wasn't bad once you had a lot to mix and match with.

tl;dr it release timing was optimal as fuck, and it's not an awful game.
Anonymous No.717326123
>>717324675 (OP)
I've only played 4 and 7 and while I enjoyed 4's gameplay more, the story of 7 and particularly Cloud's story is very good.
Anonymous No.717326256 >>717335386
>>717325664
>Not to mention all the characters in 10 are better
*Tidus laughs*
Anonymous No.717326315
>>717325664
>Nooo you can't just grind enemies you have to grind for items!!! NOOOOO STOP GRINDING EXP!!!
This is you.
Anonymous No.717326316 >>717326357 >>717326370 >>717326437 >>717326967
What does the Lifestream even do?
Anonymous No.717326357 >>717326423
>>717326316
It streams life.
Anonymous No.717326370
>>717326316
It's the farplane
Anonymous No.717326392
>>717324675 (OP)
The games music is really good. People will complain the music has the least range in the series but the over arching vibe from all the songs combined creates a unique vibe from other FF games, so it makes a normally bad critique a good thing.
Anonymous No.717326423
>>717326357
Where to?
Anonymous No.717326437 >>717326612
>>717326316
it makes the gi very mad
Anonymous No.717326582
>>717324675 (OP)
Biggest budget game at the time, enormous marketing effort from sony, became many peoples first FF and rpg.
Anonymous No.717326612 >>717326705 >>717330423
>>717326437
Still do not understand why these niggas didn't/couldn't return to their own Stream, or how they were able to make the blacked materia. Fuck it, I guess.
Anonymous No.717326631 >>717329346
I wrote a far better world, premise, plot, twists, characters and moral when I was 17. Just can't share the damned thing because I'm never happy enough with it to take it to a publisher, but once it's good enough I'd love to get it published and take it to a game company. Makes every FF game story look like it was written in crayon. It'd be great to sell the rights to a small western developer and stay on with them as a creative consultant to ensure that whatever publisher picks it up and absolutely mog 35 years worth of japanese formulaic storytelling.

btw I know my writing is good. Even my whimsical off the top of my head shitpost stories do ironman numbers both here and on youtube, instagram, plebbit, and wherever else they're reposted to.
Anonymous No.717326705 >>717326920
>>717326612
They didn't. Thats modern slop reinterpretation, seriously they ruined everything. Cosmo canyon and beyond was an absolute dogshit pile. Skipping city of the ancients was the final straw for me. Lab of ancients even had the most dogshit garbage story points and music too and the area looked fucking garbage
Anonymous No.717326905 >>717326973
Short answer is that it was the first Final Fantasy released on the PS1, adding new (for the time fucking amazing) technology, the story had some interesting twists and the side content was enjoyable too. For many especially in the West, it was their first introduction to a JRPG and mixed with the aforementioned PS1 new depth
Anonymous No.717326920 >>717327302
>>717326705
Yeah but it's really the only interpretation we have since it's an abandoned subplot in the OG, or just left ambiguous because who gives a fuck anyway?
I liked the original fan theory that the Cetra accidentally made it after the war by unintentionally "uploading" their memories to it, hence why it summons their memory of Jenova in the form of a meteor, which it notoriously arrived on.
I don't know what the fuck a meteor has to do with the Gi. Maybe they arrived on a meteor too? Still though, how was that their only idea? Just do a Thanos snap or some shit. How the fuck did they never even get the opportunity to summon it if they were in such a hurry to commit sudoku anyway? Ah, fuck it. Shit, that may as well be the tagline of the writing for this franchise; Fuck It.
Anonymous No.717326959
>>717324675 (OP)
I don't think X is that far behind it.
Anonymous No.717326967
>>717326316
it's earth-current
a good chunk of FF7 is ripped from the night land
Anonymous No.717326973
>>717326905
>adding new (for the time fucking amazing) technology
it's always interesting how selection bias influences what people consider innovative/impressive
Anonymous No.717326976
>>717324675 (OP)
popularity is always for stupid reasons
Anonymous No.717326998 >>717329016
>>717324675 (OP)
I guess it depends on if you mean "popular" in that people know of it, or "popular" as in the most people played it.
Either way:
>most normalfags and some weebs stopped before the end of Midgar (probably rented it, ngl) and legit don't know that 90% of the game after disc 1 is just filler, and that Cloud only uses the Buster Sword for disc 1
>they're secondaries with waifus/husbandos from the game
>Tifa boobs
>Sephiroth is memorable and kickstarted an entire genre of villains and all their overpowered angelic (evil) forms
>Vincent's character design is memorable and basically kickstarted an entire genre of moody anti-hero characters
>the Buster Sword is so memorable that it basically kickstarted an entire genre of swords in media
>the best songs are memorable and/or god-tier, and the forgettable songs are forgotten
>was a massive weapon in the "disc vs cart" war because of the prerendered backgrounds and cutscenes, something still super uncommon at the time
I think the biggest thing though is probably just how massively beloved some parts are, to the point of overshadowing the fact that 3/4ths of the game varies between shit and meh.
I mean fuck, most people remember Midgar, the end of the game, Tifa's old town, and that one city with the giant cannon on it, and that's about fuckin' it. Most of the rest of the game is just kinda... there. Filler after blowing the budget on Midgar.
Anonymous No.717327018
>>717324675 (OP)
literally, babby's first FF
Anonymous No.717327020
It was the first big budget soap opera for the medium, with minimal competition in general. So everybody wanted to experience and talk about it.
I get it. Hell, I watched the first three seasons of Downton Abbey. I get the appeal of being in a community and talking about shit. Hell, that's why we're here, in theory.
The real question is why people genuinely quote it as a great game. It's fun to talk about, but I'd rather play Tetris. Hell, you could argue that talking about FF7 has always been funner than playing it.
Anonymous No.717327165 >>717327186
>>717324675 (OP)
FF13, 13-2, and X-2 are all better.
Anonymous No.717327183
>>717324675 (OP)
>Marks the first Final Fantasy to leave Nintendo's clutches
>Goes full 3D as opposed to the sprites of yesteryear
>Plays well, sounds great, looks amazing
>Excellent character designs still fondly remember for decades
>Some of the best prerendered backgrounds imaginable (Resident Evil only came out last year and the backgrounds look bland)
>Movie length FMV's
>Buster sword
I could go on but you get the point.
Anonymous No.717327186
>>717327165
based armpit addict
Anonymous No.717327225 >>717327428 >>717327469
It was fun
Not worth to play today tho
Just like OoT you had to be there
Anonymous No.717327302 >>717327602
>>717324675 (OP)
Because it’s really fucking good and appeals to westerners as much as japs. Which cant be said for 99% of jrpgs that could compete with ff7.
Weebs have to understand, jrpgs like persona or shit like this are repulsive from a westerner standpoint. I live in Japan, I’ve lived in Japan for 10 years and I have studied in a Japanese university (not same as high school ofc but comparable). I do not want to play a jap high schooler, as much as I appreciate their education system and the tropes surrounding school in Japan, which are mostly all true. I do not want to play a game that simulates that, I find it cringe on a level that only jap extreme weirdos and weebs could relate with. It kind of disgust me just to think about it
.

>>717326920

The gi are not from this planet so they cannot go to the lifestream, but their souls are bound to the planet anyway (maybe there is a lifestream on their planet but its too far, their souls cant return to it. You have to see souls/spirit the way asians do, something that is actually existing in this world, not some vague immaterial consciousness that can transcend this plane and/or go wherever it wants) . So the only for them to disappear forever is to destroy the planet. Not that hard to understand.
Anonymous No.717327368
>>717325467
Both Tidus and Cloud are very good protagonists
Anonymous No.717327428 >>717327452
>>717327225
>Not worth to play today tho
That's the reason it's much better than modern slop?
Anonymous No.717327452 >>717327623
>>717327428
in what way is it better
Anonymous No.717327469
>>717327225
it still hold up really well what are you talking about
Anonymous No.717327602
>>717327302
The problem there is that the Lifestream is quite literally a vague immaterial consciousness that transcends every plane of physical and metaphysical existence whenever the melodrama needs it to. And the Lifestream is? A collection of souls.
So yeah, you can blame it on some misinterpretation of pseudoreligious cultural theory, but in reality it's just shit writing, and I'm sure as hell not going to blame an entire civilization for a half dozen losers present in it and their shoddy screenplay.
Anonymous No.717327623 >>717327720 >>717327739 >>717327793
>>717327452
Great story and gameplay. The only thing that has aged are the character models, but they're charming in their own way, like the Mario 64 model that was featured in Odyssey
Anonymous No.717327720
>>717327623
>Great story and gameplay
we were talking about final fantasy 7, not train capacity 300%
Anonymous No.717327739
>>717327623
the story can be interesting true, but i feel like we had a better experience at the time when internet forums were flooded with discussions and theories. it just wouldn't be the same if you played it today
the gameplay is nothing special and has been done better by many jrpgs today
Anonymous No.717327793
>>717327623
>Great gameplay
It's a downgrade from VI, which is itself not that great of a game to begin with.
Anonymous No.717327850
who
Anonymous No.717327908 >>717327989
>>717324675 (OP)
baby's first rpg

they spent big money advertising to the poors, it was a bold gambit expecting them to be able to spend money but they did
Anonymous No.717327989
>>717327908
>gambit
ff12 ref?
Anonymous No.717328091 >>717328486 >>717328647
>>717324675 (OP)
dunno. i didnt like cloud, his woman, or sephiroth. the rest of the characters were fine though.
Anonymous No.717328154 >>717328627
>>717324675 (OP)
The only remarkable thing about ff7 is the music and sound design. Maybe tifa's balloons in the FMVs too.
Anonymous No.717328486
>>717328091
>i didnt like cloud, his woman, or sephiroth
A man after my own heart. Couldn't stand the leads or the main story. It was too much anime faggotry and plot conveniences. I liked the Shinra/Avalanche shit though.
I was really hoping they would do a sequel focusing on Rufus, Reeve and Cid (among others) as they restart the Shinra Space Program and start making an actual difference in the world, obviously with a major focus on the World Regenesis Organization.
That's the weirdest fucking part of FF7 and its universe is there's so much buildup of the socioeconomics of the world, and then it just kinda gets sidelined and never brought up again or even resolved. Even as of Dirge of Cerberus and Advent Children the question of
>Well, what the fuck do we do without Mako?
is still up in the air, with oil being a prominent but a presumably unfavorable regression, due to its own impact on the ecosystem and the population.
Fuck Project Remake.
Anonymous No.717328627 >>717329042
>>717328154
>The only remarkable thing about ff7 is the music and sound design.
Doesn't stand the test of time but the summons being in the first 3d instalment was pretty notable at the time.
Having Knights of the Round do a 14 minute long sequence was a bit of a step up from 6's sprites popping on screen.

Still prefer 6, 8 and 9 to 7 though - I just find the cast boring and the world ugly and while I never bothered with them, it lookedlike it only played harder into the worst aspects with Dirge / Advent etc. Music was baller though, like you said.
Anonymous No.717328647 >>717328790
>>717328091
>i didn't like cloud
Which game did you play. did you play the real FF7?
Anonymous No.717328743
>>717324675 (OP)
It was the first major FF release in the west after the playstation was released and gaming was getting popular.
In short, it was most peoples first Final Fantasy.
Anonymous No.717328790 >>717329028 >>717332828
>>717328647
i'm older than your grandmas first period yes i played it. swapped controllers with my best bud while the other slept. when the other woke up, we would explain where the story was at so the other could sleep. cloud sucks ass. gunblades were kinda fun at least. cloud for me had major Shinji vibes.
Anonymous No.717328840
>>717324675 (OP)
it's like fire emblem awakening, it was the first one released at a non retarded time in the systems life. and yes, 3H is the FFX equivalent here.
Anonymous No.717329016
>>717326998
>>most normalfags and some weebs stopped before the end of Midgar (probably rented it, ngl) and legit don't know that 90% of the game after disc 1 is just filler, and that Cloud only uses the Buster Sword for disc 1

insane that's what you got out of the 70 hour game
Anonymous No.717329028 >>717329126 >>717329235
>>717328790
>we would explain where the story was at so the other could sleep.
sounds like a horrible way to experience a plot
>gunblades were kinda fun at least
that's FF8!
Anonymous No.717329042
>>717324675 (OP)
>first 3d game
Many subhumans can't into 2d
>edgy
And kino at that too
>streamlined builds
Most build choices can be used in different characters and aren't irreversible
>first entry many western fans played
And the first after 1 to have the correct number
>8 couldn't manage to keep the hype up
You had to read more than just the main quest to understand what was going on, the systems went over a lot of people's heads
>9 was cutesy
And not edgy
It was the face of the franchise for 3 entries, until 10 managed to be more notorious, but by then JRPGs were common enough in the west that it wasn't going to change the whole face of the franchise for as long as 7 did. It also had Tifa, the best waifu so far until Ultimecia rolled out, and a very notorious cast too, with a memorable fuckboy villain for goths to project onto for years to come. Finally, it repurposed a lot of earlier games's elements well, feeling like a culmination of and, at the same time, shift away from the franchise's core values, with evil industrialization flourishing beyond ff6 into what could be seen as the early onset of highly advanced civilizations like the lufenians or lunarians, closing a circle that would have to later be broken by the more outwardly lighthearted and lush setting choices in 8/9/10/12.
>>717328627
8>5>6>10>7 to me, but I need to replay 9, I was a barely literate kid when I first tried it. 8's dreamlike nature draws you in, kinda like Legend of Mana or Kingdom Hearts, hiding how fucked you'd be by actually living there. Other games are very honest about the everyday shit you have to deal with, be it the whale from link's awakening, or pompous rich technocrats.
Anonymous No.717329126
>>717329028
it dont matter. none of this matters.
Anonymous No.717329195 >>717329243
>>717324762
I did. I dropped 7, 8 and 9. They aged like milk.
Anonymous No.717329235 >>717329302
>>717329028
>that's FF8!
Anonymous No.717329243 >>717330195
>>717329195
they weren't even great at the time. does anybody actually like squal and cloud?
Anonymous No.717329302
>>717329235
i admit he got me there, but its only proof of how little 7 resonated in my memory. i can remember being there when the Declaration of Independence was signed, but very little of that game.
Anonymous No.717329310
>>717324964
I thought the twist was great, was setup really well and hinted at subtly but you can still be deduced early if you are astute.
Was also quite early to video game portrayal of mental health and PTSD which has been done ad infinitum since the 2010s.
Anonymous No.717329346
>>717326631
based schizo
Anonymous No.717329609
>>717324675 (OP)
Because it's overflowing with SOVL
Anonymous No.717329741 >>717330134
ENTER
Beefa Tifa and Aerith Gainsbro
Anonymous No.717330134 >>717332773
>>717329741
>remakefag shows up
>they only care about waifus and gooning
imagine my shock
Anonymous No.717330195
>>717329243
I like cloud.
He's a bit off an asshole with a good heart. like ratchet in ratchet and clank 1.

He's very different from the depressed KH/AC cloud and the cringe, moody, anime grunting faggot 7R cloud.
Anonymous No.717330423
>>717326612
>or how they were able to make the blacked materia
wtf are you talking about
black materia is just a dangerous materia that exists and is protected by the temple of the ancients
the gi are just random warrior nerds from cosmo canyon, completely unrelated
Anonymous No.717330792
>>717324964
The true scene at the Nibelheim reactor is fucking kino though. Also completely turning around the super serious emo Cloud to reveal the pussy ass bitch he actually was to double down on his true heroism act made me appreciate the character a lot.
I hate Squall, I hate Nomura's pretty boys acting cold, but the twist about Cloud made him actually relatable. The too cool for school behaviour is not just a poser thing in FF7.
Anonymous No.717330923 >>717330956 >>717330987
I think if Cloud was an actual incel the game would be better.
Anonymous No.717330956
>>717330923
his attitude is certainly there
Anonymous No.717330987 >>717331227 >>717331298
>>717330923
Unironically, even more if Sephiroth was more like Kaworu, someone who actually cared about the protag but was fated to go against him.
Anonymous No.717331207
>>717324675 (OP)
millennials outnumber most game-playing generations, it's why the industry went to shit in the 00s as they became the main controllers of spending and then games just started getting good again as the core passes 35 and spends more of their money on pokemon and mtg cards and graded NES games desperately trying to compensate for not having the cool things when they were kids and ruining those things instead
Anonymous No.717331227 >>717331536
>>717330987
that might at least be interesting unlike what we got
Anonymous No.717331298 >>717331536
>>717330987
that's gay as fuck and getting dangerously close to the homosexual seph in Kingdom hearts and the 'R' games.

Sephiroth is better as a horror antagonist who has merged with the consciousness of a monster and is no longer human.
Anonymous No.717331536 >>717331694
>>717331298
>Sephiroth is better as a horror antagonist
What's more horrible than a near omnipotent faggot trying to get to your incel bussy?
>merged with the consciousness of a monster and is no longer human.
So, a faggot
>>717331227
I respect the angle they went for more than I liked it. Felt too much like Gundam, with Char trying to evolve through a surrogate mother's powers only to be rejected in favor of an Amuro torn between the childhood friend and Char's sister, but the aesthetics didn't fit. It looked like some shitty 90s french surreal movie, like "the city of lost children", and it made me uninterested. 5, 8 and 10, in contrast, gave me a world I actually wanted to explore, while 6 gave me time more time to let my negative emotions towards Kefka grow.
Anonymous No.717331694
>>717331536
>I respect the angle they went for more than I liked it.
that's a fair point and maybe i have to much animosity towards the whole thing
Anonymous No.717332652
>>717324675 (OP)
final fantasy VII is the residen evil 2 of final fantasy series, the metal gear solid of final fantasy series.

You get it anon?
Anonymous No.717332702
Cause it fuckin' rocks, Aertih and Tifa are hot and sephiroth and cloud are badass
Anonymous No.717332728
Good gameplay
Good story
Interesting world and characters
Good music
Was on a good platform
Anonymous No.717332773
>>717330134
>Gooning
Only roasties use this word
Anonymous No.717332828 >>717333287
>>717328790
>. cloud for me had major Shinji vibes.
and is that supposed to be bad? Shinji is one of the best written anime protagonists.
Anonymous No.717332938
>>717325964
So basically you had to be there to understand how the hype was effecting everyone
Anonymous No.717333042
>>717324675 (OP)
6 had already done everything better than 7, minus the characters, but that was because to of many they tried to shove in there.
Anonymous No.717333287 >>717333534
>>717332828
if you say so but he's also known as one of the biggest pussies of all time. pick your poison i guess. yeah yeah he aided in ending the world in a sense, but up until that point? nah senpai he's ass. lucked into the few achievements he had in life.
Anonymous No.717333534
>>717333287
senpai kaiji bento box XD
Anonymous No.717334328 >>717335447
>>717324675 (OP)
Best cast. Simple as.
Even outside of the party characters. None of the other games has a character quite like Hojo.
Anonymous No.717335328
>>717324675 (OP)
Actually FFX is, and deservingly so, FFX is the best Final Fantasy.
Anonymous No.717335386
>>717326256
This isn't and never was an argument, its a dumb retard low IQ baby check.
Anonymous No.717335447
>>717334328
>They made Yuffie a tranny
What an aids infested image holy shit.