Behold future of video games!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pak hum HQ

>>717380223 (OP)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PDKhUknuQDg

It's unironically over
This will make people insane
This will make me insane

I'm insane

>>717380223 (OP)
Can i use this to simulate me pillaging a village as a Yamnaya nomad and raping the women there?

No one likes this shit. It's goverment and corporate subsidized projects against humanity.

Simply will not work at scale. Probably uses a fuckton of energy to create.

>>717380223 (OP)
Imagine the porn

>>717380223 (OP)
Cool, a sequel to LSD Dream Emulator

>>717382029
exactly what I thought at first
could be neat to explore random places especially if gets VR support somehow, but other than that I don't really care

world models are not a replacement for video games. they're a tool to help RL training

>>717380223 (OP)

>>717380223 (OP)
>>717380307
Their worlds look barren (i.e. walking simulator). Might even make the liminal zoomies shit and piss their pants. Neat, at any rate

>>717380223 (OP)
>tfw version 2 was dogshit
>tfw version 3 is already significantly better
at this rate of improvement
I will wait until the release Genie 7, at that point it will be so good I expect it will meet most needs for most people

Yawn. Can we just get Metroid Prime 4 already?

>>717380223 (OP)
Pretty cool.
Can't wait for the sex mods.

>>717380307
Give me some comfortable VR helmet, and I will be terminally connected to that shit.

>>717380223 (OP)
>Computer generate me a big booty latina with huge tits

>that fucking blur

>>717388702
>Sorry, I cannot process your request.
>The phrase "Big booty latina" is a phrase often used by white supremacists to denigrate women of hispanic origin and to perpetuate eurocentric standards of beauty.

>>717380223 (OP)
top quality game of the decade video game pc game, first person 3D medieval europe life simulator, made by extremely racist 5th reich super-programmers, ultra-realistic 4k trillion dollar budget no diversity most racist game ever made 4k ultra high specs video game big titty wenches --ar 16:9

>>717380952
>>717380983
kino

>>717380223 (OP)
This is honestly cool as fuck

>AI generate a cute loli wife, that follows me around and loves me unconditionally

>>717389496
>Computer generate me a body positively rear ended latinx with a buxomly upper frame

>>717390667
>generates image of latinx man in a car that's been rear ended by a truck

>>717380223 (OP)
Yeah, nice
Now DLSS / framegen will be the game itself
No need to even run it on top of existing games
Feels like a natural progression in slopification of gaming
Porn with it would be nice though

>>717390884
It will be hard, but I can make it work.

I mean, is cool and all but you probably need some absolutely fucking retarded ultra-high end computer to run it.

>>717380223 (OP)
great. even more slop

>>717391153
Reality itself is slop.

>>717391117
Don't think so
Just a mac

>>717391450
>mac
I rather not stain my hands touching shit.

>>717380223 (OP)
>Interactive simulations
Guys, its literally just text2video but camera movement and maybe some player character inserted in the middle. This will not teach any AI robot anything, and it wont replace gaming.

AIs are notoriously bad even to this day at following very rigid rules. They cant play DnD with you because they start making up rules halfway though the game. Do you expect AI generated videos to follow rigid animation and gameplay rules that make the game fair? Precise FPS movement and controls, enemies that behave in predictable ways, levels that are balanced, and iframes that are fair? It will either end up making generic slop if you turn the weirdness parameter down, or be completely unfair hallucinated bs with higher weird parameter.

Second is that the context of this video and the remembering part that separates it from the previous models which just erase anything behind you is that this thing remembers everything that came before it and generates accordingly. This is why it can do only few second clips, because it has to remember the whole thing before it generates next frame. And we have still not solved this problem even in LLMs. Some LLMs are said to have massive context windows like million of tokens, but from experience and few scientific papers you realize that unless you want the LLM to run million times slower you will end up with only the words at the start and end of the context window mattering. We can see this in current LLMs and this will probably still be problem even for these models in the near future.

Thirdly and most importantly this shit will not run on your local machine. Current video models that can be run locally take much more time to generate the video then live feed can offer you, or being significantly lower quality. Add in more then 10 minutes of context needed to not make everything behind the player disappear and you end up with something average person will never afford.

However it could be fun gimmick

>>717391927
>literally just text2video but camera movement and maybe some player character inserted in the middle.
Its literally not

>>717391927
i LOVE how confidently wrong you are
really proving how we aren't any different than LLMs at the end of the day


>its literally just text2video but camera movement and maybe some player character inserted in the middle.
its not, if you even looked at it for a seconds you would realize this
https://x.com/TencentHunyuan/status/1949288986192834718
https://x.com/Escapation/status/1949917171465015578

>>717391927
>This is why it can do only few second clips
it does 60 seconds now

>>717380307
>Add voice to text input and you're changing the world as you speak and move around it.
That's actually a pretty cool concept to play around with.
But it won't be replacing my present games not in a long time.

>>717380223 (OP)
Computer, generate a half-scale copy of a 900 year old vampire trapped in a child's body, decrease breast size twofold and make them lactate. Good. Lock Holodeck doors and disregard all safety protocols.

Alright I can already see the writings on the wall, I’m out guys I’m living off grid, Who’s with me? Let’s all make our own shit, practice collectivism.

>>717393607
How am I wrong, I looked it up and it works how I described.
The stuff you send is completely different. The chinese one builds 3D model from panorama around the player that is very small and allows you to only move within the bubble.
The other one is actually closer to making real games because it is generated assets put into actual game engine.
Genie 3 allows complete freedom because its a video being generated. It does not allow you to generate it indefinitely as far as we know and even if it did it needs to store that memory somewhere, and not even LLMs we have right now do it properly. All showcases show something that looks more like a video that you prompt in the middle to do something and it happens. Its text2video with inputs.

I find funny how people use image gen and text gen mainly for porn but corporations pretend that nothing happens and that their biggest enthusiasts aren't people who wanna jerk off to anime girls, if people get that shit running locally they are going to make the new generation of shitty porn flash games

>>717394437
This thing does not make games actually, it basically just streams them. You play it one and you are done, it gets deleted.

>>717380223 (OP)
Looks great if it's actually like the video, otherwise it's probably just a marketing/investment scam or something.

>>717380223 (OP)
Do you have the 10 million dollars for the computers to run this in realtime?

>>717394330
they are literally the same dude
they are more like physics engines than anything else

>>717394751
inb4 Stadia 2: AI Edition

>>717391927
sshhhh let those scammers get their $$ and rug pull once the bubble bursts

>>717394692
its 720p at 24fps
and the results are probably some of the better ones
but that's still impressive even if the hit rate is only 20%
>>717394751
you can rent a gpu cluster to run it
couple bucks an hour

>>717394437
They have to play it safe because the moment AI porn of some feminist reaches the normiesphere it'll be over. Remember the Visa/Mastercard shit with japan and vidya? That will be nothing compared to that. Hell, even just eceleb AI porn videos are banned on /gif/ already. Everyone is playing it safe. Now, if you ask me why LLMs are doing the same then I have no clue, regarding porn at least.
>nooo those tokens were 17 years and 364 days old!!!

>>717391927
>its literally just text2video but camera movement and maybe some player character inserted in the middle
god you are so fucking retarded

>>717394827
That's the problem, Stadia 2 required a middling PC, this runs on literal supercomputers.
One person running this at 720p/24 FPS, sure.
A million, it's not happening.

>>717394859
You will need a pretty big cluster.

>>717394859
I mean I doubt it works mechanically like the video shows, the object permanence probably isn't as good as it describes, the control of the player is probably a lot more limited, etc.
More likely it's just like that program that plays a 5 second video clip but in real time and you can sort of vaguely control the camera.

>>717394917
I mean they'll just tier it like chat bots, the free people get a retarded AI and you can pay to make it smarter.

>>717395051
chat bots generate like 2KB of text, this is doing realtime high resolution video.
There'a tiny massive gap of computing requeriments here.

>>717380223 (OP)
>AI will advance so much that game studios will make a $500 million game cost only $50 million in a quarter of the time with no compromise or sign of bad AI slop quality
>Game publishers will still charge $80+ for their games, regardless of how much they save

This is the future. We will never get cheap games even if game development becomes cheap as dirt.

>>717395285
Can we get good games at any price?

>>717395329
Not until people are willing to stop being retarded and buying slop (never)
The games are going to be equal quality, the only difference is the dev studio can fire 3/4 of their jeets

>>717394783
>Physics engines
Ai researchers looked at high fidelity liquid splashes that look more real whatever you can make in Blender and concluded that AIs must be physics engines. Video models just understand how the world and physics work, please don't look at characters doing backflips in VEO 3 and their legs morphing with each other and characters fighting with each other in nonsensical ways.

They call it world models, but I bet you not a single successful robot will be trained in this shit, they will all just continue using some better version of 3D programs like Blender or use real life settings. Its like with the image generators that weren't able to make red cube above blue cube, sure they improved them but the general limitation is the same, they know how to do fidelity better then predict actual reality because they are fundamentally not precise. This is why all ML programs hallucinate, and as far as I know they have not solved hallucination in LLMs.

>>717395285
GENIE 3 DOES NOT MAKE FUCKING GAMES, THIS AI DOES NOT MAKE GAMES YOU CAN PROMPT THEN SAVE THEN REPLAY, IT CREATES EVERYTHING IN REAL TIME, ITS A FUCKING VIDEO GENERATOR WITH CONTROL INPUTS. IT ALSO DOES NOT HELP YOU MAKING GAME ASSETS BECAUSE GENIE 3 GAMES DONT HAVE ASSETS.

>>717395398
>the dev studio can fire 3/4 of their whites* and replace the last 1/4 with jeets
ftfy

>>717380223 (OP)
This is my hypotetical godotbot.
You give it a prompt, and the "main LLM" will call several sub LLMs trained for specific tasks such as writing GDScript, generating assets, testing, optimizing and ultimately assembling a final package that you can run, and it's the game on the prompt.
In this hypotetical scenario, after 5 minutes, you will have a complete game you can play from end to end without needing a massive supercomputer to generate the frames, with "infinite memory" like a real game, and actually good gameplay.

Why the fuck i would use your thing when there's godotbot?

>>717391927
High quality post

>>717381927
Unironically can't fucking wait.

>>717391927
You would be called a delusional AI shill if you wrote that in 2023. The amount of times you reddit tourists (AI hate stems from reddit, literally no one else gives a shit about 'muh artists') moved the goalpost is hilarious.
You lost, and not only that, by ignoring it completely, you will never be able to catch up. You idiots keep imagining it's a simple press of a button not realizing that proper prompting is a modern skill you NEED to have. As the time goes by, you'll be resembling amish more and more. Enjoy missing out on the biggest tech advancement in the century.

>>717390667
>Computer, generate me a Dragon copulating with a 2004 Toyota Corolla

>>717396434
As AI improves it needs less and less prompting skills. AI agents are literally just AI prompting itself recursively. However its a good skill if you are already a professional who wants to be the last one fired.

Also how do you want to even use your prompting skills with this? Genie 3 is all in real time, you cant just save that game and then send it around and people having the same experience, they will all have unique one based on what the model will decide to generate or where they decide to go. This thing does not make .exe files, you do understand that, right? This is like the AI generated Minecraft but more general, consistent and with higher fidelity.

>>717380223 (OP)
GMS

>>717380223 (OP)
Ai is the bestest thing happen to mankind
Humanity won
Woketard and commie lost

>>717397184
>you cant just save that game and then send it around and people having the same experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkYBk-njJuA

>>717380223 (OP)
Awesome.

How can I use it to cum?

>>717397367
and luddites really think they should be against it just because they think they won't be able to afford it when most of the stuff is cloud based and completely free because every AI company just needs more data for training
imagine using PC on a daily basis and still opposing progress
lol
lmao even.

>>717391450
It's AI, you need something nvidia.

>>717397543
That completely different. This is an AI trained on interacting with Quake 2 environments. This also wasn't prompted, its like if you asked ChatGPT to make you an LLM model. Also everything is different, no level is the same, if it had a story it would be different.

>>717398369
Or you could be optimistic instead. Just a thought.

>>717398639
This specific tech is trash.
There are ways to use the AI that are hundreds or thousands times better than this.
This is basically the solar roadways of generation.

>>717398639
For example, "AI, generate a gaussian splating of a real place that i can run on my web browser":

https://superspl.at/view?id=001477d6
There are several researchs on the way on how to make AI generate this.

Add a doll walking on that and it's already a trillion times better than OPs garbage.

Genshin Impact is going EOS on PS4.

>>717398639
And it runs on my vega 8 igpu.

>>717398639
My argument here >>717391927 was not that AI cant make videogames. What I meant is that this kind of text2game is fucking retarded and wont be the future of gaming. This >>717396021 will be the future of videogames.

>>717394993
no its literally that good
you can see more examples on twitter

>>717395532
explain this then >>717393607

>>717395408
>They call it world models, but I bet you not a single successful robot will be trained in this shit
the tencent model already trained robots

>>717395408

>>717381927
finally I can live my fantasy in 3d maybe even in vr...

>>717383345
liminal spaces games or psichodellic stuff could work

>>717381924
this
there are already entire data centres filled with racks dedicated to AI processing cartoon porn and fake girlfriends for tens of thousands of people. All that shit is fairly simple in comparison to a real time simulated space with functionality that can be modified in real time from a simple prompt

>>717383345
>>717400448
people are missing the point, they trained a model to turn any jpg into a walking simulator
what does this mean? it means you could turn any jpg into a racing game, porn, a shooter, etc
this is a simple tech demo but it is nonetheless a tech demo

>>717400961
>they trained a model to turn any jpg into a walking simulator
no they didn't
fuck even you missed the point
look at the painting part
that's not a walking simulator

>>717401016
you're being pedantic

>>717401193
if you can paint a wall you can kill a dragon

>>717380223 (OP)
It's pretty disheartening how even in a curated demo they have vomit inducing examples of unreality

>>717400961
for me the key is cheapening the game development and allow one dude create with AI tools AA games in less than a year, with this done we will see a lot of projects made to cater to very niche audiences and being also economically viable for the developer
(like an erotic version of Animal Crossing)

>>717400520
Depends on how it works. If the ai is drawing every pixel, then yes, but if the AI is building a mesh and applying textures from a library, and then letting raytracing calculate the lighting, it could reduce the computational requirements significantly.

>>717401224
No you cant, good luck having the dragon actually work as a videogame dragon with fair hitboxes. Maybe next year.

>>717401342
making proper games with AI tools will come later than these "games" that will be mindless fun at best

>>717401420
I wonder if the next Unreal will already came with built in AI generating assets

>>717401342
The problem with that idea is that if one person can do this huge project then AI can do it without that person. This was true since one of the first image generators, just get LLM to generate prompts and then automatically post them online. Prompt engineering is only required when you want to control the output, but if you do it for other people then its pointless because those other people don't know where your vision ends and where AI hallucination starts.

>>717401420
But that's not what Genie 3 does. Genie 3 generates every pixel, because its as much as people here want to deny, text2video with control inputs. Just like how LLMs are next token predictors.

>>717401787
There's more stuffs like control nets etc.. and actual systems to extend the context memory so it don't forget stuffs (as much).
However it's still a impractical way to "make video games".
Its more like a tv knife commecial where they show the knife being used to cut things like cans and shit.
It's a cool demo, but you will not be using it that way.

>>717401542
hitboxes already work
did you not see it touching the wall?

Screw prompting. Add a rocket launcher and let me destroy everything at the click of a button. This stiff is only cool if it's interactible and nor a walking sim.

>>717399562
>two tweets that aren't genie3
Those Chinese slop generators do actually make assets, because that's all they do.

>>717402246
they are the same thing btw
tencent model just saves itself out

>>717402290
They literally aren't, Genie 3 says outright that it isn't. That's why it's so fucking blurry.

>>717402356
This looks literally like a Xbox 360 video game, but using a trillion times the computing power.

>>717402031
I meant enemy effect hitboxes. And if it was possible to generate boss battles someone on xwitter would have already done that by now.

>>717402356
>No humans you can run over
Lame

>>717402473
It was made from a written prompt that is incredibly impressive

>>717400162
What the fuck is happening to her back?

>>717403185
Don't mind the back, look at the face.

>>717380223 (OP)

Computer, display Menzobarranzan. Very good. Now put me in the middle of a dimly lit room. Populate the room with female drow, and… make them barefoot.

>>717404015
>Oh no, another malfunction, now they all have Data's face.

I like the idea of people with talent using these tools to make something compelling.

But for me, it's like photography. There are lots of prestigious awards for photographers, but nobody cares about them. Most people could not name even a single photographer. As far as I'm concerned, the awards are probably all a dick sucking contest about who has the best connections and most pull, not the actual "skill" involved, because it's point and fucking shoot, how hard can it be?

Any moron with a phone can take a picture, and every picture is worthless because of that. A painted portrait at least has the idea that someone invested time and money into a concept, but photographs? They're background art.

AI generations are just fictional photography. You type some shit in, a black box generates roughly something similar, you go "eh, good enough, I don't want to spend another 20 hours making it perfect when it's just a box asset", and your whole game is filled with placeholder level slop that looks no different from anything else out there. And if you're an actual creative trying to use this, it means your work will look no different than the lowest quality shit you can find. There's no way to stand out from the crowd, and just like nobody cares about photography, nobody will care about AI generations.

>>717404524
AI art is a higher form of art than photography.

GOOD MORNING SAARS

E. A. JEETS. ITS IN THE STREETS

>>717404886
I would rate both on the same level of "shit I don't care to see".

>>717404524
As far as I'm concerned AI is only good for a few things. Shitposts, stock footage replacement, and surreal LSD art. Nothing I would ever pay money for. AI videos still give off that creepy slowmo feel that is unpleasant to watch so you would need to be a good editor to salvage it.

Ai is future of Vidya but not like this. It could work in generating assets on the fly or making more involved radiant quests from Skyrim with voiced dialogue
Generating entire scenes is fucking retarded because it's wasteful, unnecessary and the worst of it: not fun

>>717405891
>not fun
Going by current AAA games, this is the future.

>>717381927
>computer, please generate a simulation where I am a space explorer crashing on a planet inhabited by primitive Asari.
>safety off

Impressive. Ubisoft seeing some light at the end of the tunnel right now. This is going to change video gaming deeply.

>>717391927
>average person will never afford.
'a computer small enough to fit in a house is preposterous' 'a computer with 1 million bytes of memory? not in any of our lifetimes for less than one trillion dollars' etc

>>717402356
>no interaction with anything, just the guy moving in some GTAV-like environment
It's just a video. And with currenct computing power it will always be. At best you'll get mildly interactive video (in a sense you can turn around, maybe choose a direction not by typing propmpt but by pressing arrow key) but you are not getting a game out of this. Game is not a slideshow of some randomly generated clips with similar theme.
What we see is still just the same "predict the next token based on my initial prompt" over and over again each time just a bit more polished and exponentially more expensive.

Also this guy said it better than me. >>717391927

>>717401420
It's not doing that.