>Does nothing
>Dies

>>717404889 (OP)
>Huge on release
>Sony bullshit happens
>Game goes on downward spiral
>Becomes popular again with the third faction finally being added
Idk what they did this time though as that's as far as my knowledge goes.

>>717405018
>Rebalance it so most weapons deal no durable damage
>Make most enemies have durable up the ass
>Make the most transparently rigged MOs in a row
>Nerf status effects by fixing a bug
>"Plasma has no weight, thereby it cannot break chain link fences"
>Break the game
>Leave on vacation

>>717405353
I just played it two days ago and it was perfectly fine. Also plasma WOULDN'T break a chain link fence, plasma is basically somewhere between fire and an electrical arc. If anything it would melt a hole in a thin enough metal, not blow it up or bust it down.

>>717404889 (OP)
This game is a tragic comedy about how hard you can mismanage a golden cow.
>releases to massive success
>dripfed content slowly turns away players but huge spikes on majour patches
>sony debacle happens game almost dies
>they give in, game alive as fuck again
>alexus starts balancing
>game becomes so shit it's legit approaching 5k peak players
>they literally spent 40 days doing nothing but unfucking everything alexus did
>game hugely popular again
>complete lack of content, dripfeed becomes worse
>game aboit to die
>finally release third faction
>everyone is back, game hugely alive
>nothing
>still nothing
>almost 3 months of nothing
>game about to die, did they abandon it?
>release two shitty roleplaying warbonds with alexus balancing
>game about to die again
>suddenly megacities, good warbond
>game most alive it has been since release
>dripfeed starts again
>game slowly going back to dying as we speak

>>717405632
Adding to this. Is it really too much to ask for 1 or 2 new stratagems or weapons a month? Obvious stuff like colouring the gas mines blue and calling thek cryomines or taking the flamethrower turret and colouringbit green for a gas turret. Stuff that anyone can implement in 5h of work.

If the Devs weren't cowards they'd add a Human Rebel faction so we could roleplay Jin Roh.
If they REALLY weren't cowards, they'd make them Indian and Chinese.

>>717405018
Nothing, it hits 200k players whenever they do a major update making it one of the most popular PvE games ever

>>717405632
You have critical ADHD. The game has existed for 18 months. In that time, it has had 14 warbonds, the illuminate update, and the megacity/earth invasion update, and they've dropped the occasional single weapon or stratagem into the mix aside from those. The dripfeed you speak of is a span of maybe two months tops where a significant update did not happen. I am a full time employed adult with no partner and no children, and I can barely keep up with unlocking all the content.
The worst period this game has ever had was Sony pissing off the entire PC userbase, and they have earned everyone's trust back with major updates since then (and sony giving up their faggotry).
If you can even claim we're currently in a "drip feed" period, it would be because they're busy working on the xbox integration when that drops in three weeks.

tl;dr kill yourself

>>717405993
To add to this, Fortnite, which everyone in the industry sees as the gold standard for live service, once went 9 months with no new content.

Redpill me on the Autocannon /v/

>>717405993
Take your meds, schizo.

>>717406060
It goes pew and things go splat

I wish Heavy Armor was good.
I just wanna be a Tank.

>>717406340
I'll give you one extra melee hit from a low tier enemy in exchange for your mobility, it's the best I can do

>>717405826
>If they REALLY weren't cowards, they'd make them Indian and Chinese.
....why?
You know the only Mega City that didn't get razed was Shanghai, right? If anything SE is majority Chinese now.

>>717406530
>....why?
Because I hate them?
What a silly question.

>>717406549
>enter lame HFY setting with fascist aesthetics
>"saar why non white people doe, redeem based nazis saar"
Same shit with 40keks fans, I really don't get you lot.

>>717406549
giga based

>>717406648
Hit dog will holler, and project.

>>717406060
Outclassed by everything in every single faction, you want crowd control? Stalwart or grenade launcher+backpack, factory/bug hole/spaceship destroyer? Literally your nades, eagle strikes, orbitals crossbow,etc, heavy killer? Lol, medium size enemy killer? Grenade launcher, heavy machine gun and eruptor.

Is just bad.

>>717406340
I just use it because it usually looks the funniest.

Game used to be fun, but after a while the mission cycle gets boring as fuck.

>>717406732
Try not bringing up impotent race war fantasies in a post-racial setting then.

>>717406648
>if you don't like indians you're.... indian!!!
Does this argument actually work on people?

>>717406880
What is supposed to give life to the mission grind is MOs, to add context, but they've fucked up the narrative with their terrible GM work.
>can't remember the last time a planet was liberated outside and MO (cleaning up a planet that got lost in the previous MO doesn't count)
>can't remember the last time a gambit worked
Player agency does nothing, and the system that scales liberation on percentage instead of absolute participation means you can't do shit unless Joel pushes the horde to one place. We were close to actually doing something at Phact Bay and cutting off a sector but half the players fucked off to Vernen Wells and now nothing happens because players are split.

>>717405632
Don't forget that Joel faggot and his boring railroaded MO's.

>>717405993
My main issue is they should have gone a harder with Super Earth invasion.
They should have released the full Illuminate roster and give us new stratagem like the vehicule.

>>717406060
Only good use case is against the illuminate since they dont have any heavy armor that makes it pointless (aside feom the leviathan but that units just annoying in general). Shrapnel mode is also good against flesh mobs. If you could see what units spawned before a mission, more people would bring it on terminids because you either get cucked by chargers or you mop up the floor of bile spewers.

>>717404889 (OP)
I'd say it's more of a gameplay problem.
There is just nothing to do besides farm SC to get another battlepass. and the best way to farm SC is running dif1 missions and resetting since SC drops aren't affected by difficulty multiplier
Directed events should be a monthly thing with unique tilesets, enemies and objectives.
The progression is ass since you unlock most of the stuff early on, besides a few things which you need to grind for hard.

>>717406904
You eat your food with your hands instead of a spoon, don't you Anon.

it feels like a really limited and less fun version of risky rain 2
the difficulty is not going to sleep when playing unless when you're getting mobbed because of that one faggot triggering spawns in which case its a downward spiral

>>717404889 (OP)
Honestly, fuck live service games, they are irritating by their very nature. This slop is better than most because it doesn't (usually) have events though. Marginally.

>>717404889 (OP)
Theres like 3-4 procedualy generated mission types. I grew tired of it after 25h.

>>717407153
>There is just nothing to do besides farm SC to get another battlepass.
It's a comedy game. The definition of "fun with friends". But it sure is funny with friends.

>>717407182
My country invented the fork actually.
>>717407153
The SC farm situation is funny because they know it exists, they're too hesitant to remove it, they've acknowledged it's stupid to give more SC rewards at lower difficulties instead of higher, they're "looking into a new system for rewarding SC" but have done nothing yet.
Well, except add the warp pack explicitly so you can solo loot bunkers, except it doesn't work on megacity maps who spawn the most bunkers because they forgot to update them.

>>717405018
Performance has been getting worse over time
Now I can't even run it smoothly in potato mode so I just stopped

>>717407360
I thought they literally removed mega city bunkers. Do you mean the regular city bunkers?

>>717404889 (OP)
every single change and balance patch made it worse and worse. if they rolled it back to how it was on release and left it alone it would get way more players again

>>717407416
You mean cities inside regular maps, or maps explicitly on city tiles? Because I still see bunkers on the second, they're just unlootable.
But they probably have removed that one city map that would spawn five bunkers right next to each other

>>717407532
Wrong.

>>717407532
>2 headshots with the recoiless to kill one titan
Demonic balance, they genuinely expected people to cooperate in the age 2024, what a group of retards.

>>717407662
I don't understand how they could ever think that making assisted reload requiring the reloader to wear the ammo backpack made sense. You'd want the shooter wearing it so the loader could easily access the ammo.

>>717407360
>SC now scales with difficulty multiplier
>SC also now drops from major orders along with medals
there I fixed your SC problem
if they want more money they should give people more cosmetic options in the store, not make farming currency a fucking chore

>>717407662
I have 300 hours in the game, and all achievements except one, doing a single team reload. I've genuinely tried to do it, talk in chat, offer to carry RR ammo, but they just grab the backpack or shoot me if I get it.

>>717407360
>My country invented the fork actually.
Ew, a Chinaman.

>ruins your game

>>717404889 (OP)
Classic example of the publisher and dev fighting tooth an nail to prevent the game from being successful

>>717405018
Bots are okay, though getting boring after months
Squids is unplayable, needs a better counter to Leviathans, like more ammo on the spear, or if your could have the Eagle go after it. Fleshmob legs should be able to be shot away imo

>>717404889 (OP)

>>717404889 (OP)
the lazy devs dont deserve the community they got

>>717404889 (OP)
Please understand Swedish laws force them to hire women and niggers and spend more time relaxing than working

>>717405632
I belive that people wouldnt leave if fucking medals and credits had better uses. The weapon customization was a nice adition but since the majority of weapons only let you change sights, people got bored quick

>>717404889 (OP)
a friend of mine plays this constantly, what could he be doing if the game is dead?

>>717409158
>what could he be doing if the game is dead?
The same thing over and over again.
Despite several enemy factions it all plays the same

>>717409154
I think the game should use samples more, i want to upgrade stratagems cooldowns by paying with samples, like i pay 200 normal samples 100 rare samples and 10 super samples to get an extra 10% shorter cooldown for every single stratagem for the next 10 missions.

>>717407789
I got it from happening to also bring a recoilless rifle on an HVA mission and everyone was bored so I reloaded for a dude and he reloaded me. I imagine it's easy enough to get deliberately if you look and match someone's support weapon and then follow them around for a while.

>>717404889 (OP)
im surprised theres still no chink cloning this game for phones

>>717404889 (OP)

>>717405993
you kys, they want a live service game? well then never stop delivering content, you fucking faggot

>>717405826
Honestly I'm ashamed of all of you.
Not one person in this thread made the "The Bugs are Chinese and the Automatons are Indian Robo Scammers" joke?
Not one?
You guys are lame.

>>717405826
A rebel faction would be the good guys.

is warp pack just a meme

>>717404889 (OP)
VERMINTIDE WONNED
DARKTIDE WONNERED
KF3 WON
HELLSHITE 2 LOST BIGLY!

>>717406060
Good middle of the road workhorse, does the job for most situations.

>>717410902
It's like the Jump and Hover Pack in that you can say you don't really "need" them but it saves you a lot of headaches and are just fun to use.

>>717404889 (OP)
>No new content for months
>No new weapons that aren't locked behind paid battle passes in over a year
>War is very obviously scripted and players have no effect on it what so ever
Yeah. Shit got boring.

>>717406648
Transcoded post, your egg is cracking sis

>the next big thing they have coming up is a 30 day "game health patch" when everyone comes back from "swedecation"

i trust them somewhat to actually get the game working, but at the same time they have an absolutely atrocious record when it comes to it, every bug fix has been one step forward and two steps back since the game came out. hopefully after that we get those new squid enemies that were leaked.

I genuinely don't know how you 'fix' the game. If it wasn't live-service I'd say keep your playerbase happy with drip-fed content while you work on your sequel.
Comparing it to a destiny or warframe with episodic content would better fit the model but they'd have to heavily restructure how the game operates.
The galactic war having these transient events like the TCS that brings a new mission type that just disappears was a bizarre choice, since then the updates have brought in permanent features like new enemy types and maps but any new player is not going to be getting the 'experience' of being blindsided by a succession of new battlefield variables.

The game really shines when suddenly an update introduces a Factory Strider or new mission type but even good updates don't change the fact there's still no real direction to be oriented towards as a player, just an environment to react to.
I don't know how the devs keep the game fresh with this model.

>>717410769
Automatons are more chinese given new kazahkstan its their homeworld, bugs are more like niggers

>>717404889 (OP)
It just gets dull after a while.
I played more Vermintide 2 than I should, the combat is very satisfying and there's a lot of variation with different classes, party banter, new levels, etc.
HD2 becomes repetitive quicker and solo play just isn't as fun.
Also the performance gets worse and worse.

>>717412062
>confusing Central Asian SSRs with China
based retard

>playin snoyslop shooty garbage
Couldn't be me

>>717411120
you can get battlepass for free. the fuck are you talking about faggot?

>>717408565
>Kravchenko...

>>717408565
Didn't he got fired after the massive wave of backlash?

This is dead according to you fucking retards

>>717408565
Who is this guy and what did he ruin exactly?

>>717410902
Just use whatever is fun.

>>717412297
Anon simply refuses to pick up super credits.

>>717405993
>14 warbonds
That had fuck all useful in them, especially because devs don't play past difficulty 4, maybe 6 at best.
>illuminate
Should have been there on release.
>megacity/earth invasion
It was sgit especially because strategems simply aren't made to work with tall buildings and their shitty engine can't handle complete terrain destruction, fucking EDF let you level cities into complete flat terrain.
>occasional single weapon or stratagem into the mix
Every update should come with a new free weapon and stratagem that isn't paywalled in warbond

>>717412418
nope, they just told him to stop shitposting on the official discord, thats it.

>>717412554
he's the dumb bastard in charge of game balance. if your favorite gun is total dogshit its 99% his fault that its like that.

>>717407028
I don't understand the MO system at all and the concept itself is not even interesting enough to figure out.
Like does the game expect me to log in every day to check progress, remember all the planet names etc, under who's control they were etc. ?

>>717404889 (OP)
It’s too easy now. Bring back dangerous enemies

>>717412975
Nobody knows what the game excepts.
Maybe there was a semblance of a good idea at first, but after a while MOs got so obviously railroaded and retarded that everyone stopped doing them.
They should've been automatized like the first one, with direct intervention only happening when it's time for update or a promotion or something.

>>717412717
>That had fuck all useful in them, especially because devs don't play past difficulty 4, maybe 6 at best.
Just use whatever is fun. The game simply isn't hard enough to worry about optimising your loadout. You didn't forget that fun things are fun, did you?

>Terminids
>Spawn from SE planets since they are farmed as fuel
>Can spread by contamination or something to other planets

>Automatons
>Have homeplanet in SE system, expansion usually entails branching supply line from there

>Illuminate
>Not from SE system, can spread seemingly anywhere, no real means of directly stopping them just beating back their invasion

Didn't the first game actually have wars that ended? How many years until this is ever made possible?

>>717413296
Never ever.

>>717404889 (OP)
It's getting an Xbox port on Aug 26th it might be getting a bunch of new players soon

It's still a great game. Doing this again?

>>717406060
>PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
GET CANNONED GET CANNONED GET CANNONED GET CANNONED
>PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP

>>717404889 (OP)
id rather play serious sam or risk of rain

>>717406060
feels and sounds nice to shoot, kind of been outclassed by other choices since launch but still gets the job done reasonably well

>>717405632
Normies demand constant updoots. Sad.

>>717407028
>can't remember the last time a gambit worked
tbf that's wholly on the playerbase being full of drooling retards, but your other points are solid

>>717405018
it’s doing more than fine, one of the best pve “liveservice” games of the moment. I don’t think you can get an even bigger market share

new faction looks dope

>>717410902
The warp pack is really good as a quick getaway and/or repositioning device. The fact that you can use it to go inside buddy bunkers by yourself without the need to wait for your braindead teammates to notice you waiting for them to come open it makes it incredible.

>>717413262
That is the fucking point though, most options just aren't fun to use. Partygame angle is really flimsy too, because arrowhead really doesn't know what they want game to be in the first place. If every stratagem cooldown was divided by 10 we can start talking about fun.

>>717406340

It's extremely durable. You'll need upgraded stims and enough experience to know how to dive and dodge and weave etc, but you can wade through incredible odds.

Unfortunately the name of the game on high difficulty is in-and-out, quick-and-quiet, so its still inferior to light armor. Very good if you have a team you know that will actually work with you and not just leave you in the dust

>>717413951
>buddy bunkers by yourself
this is useful and i fully expect it to be patched

>>717414078
They explicitly said it's an intended behaviour.
Except they forgot to make city bunkers lootable with it because they're lazy swedes.

>>717414078
I don't think so, because they intentionally made it so that the bunker loot can be picked up without the door being open on the patch they added the warp pack in the game, because before this the pickups inside bunkers could not be interacted with if you managed to glitch yourself through the door without opening it first.

>>717414258
>because before this the pickups inside bunkers could not be interacted with if you managed to glitch yourself through the door without opening it first.
Some city tiles still behave like that

>>717404889 (OP)
They've already made their money back by a large margin. It's over.

>>717414356
that's just result of sw*dish coding

>>717405632
Woah
You mean people come back for new content, have fun then leave again while waiting for new content?

>>717406765
Oh boy i sure love my stalwart and grenade launcher against hulks and striders!

>>717406060
I like to run the GL and have noticed AC has an advantage when dealing with mobs of medium armor enemies. You can spam it and worry a lot less about blowback and bounces.
I'd like to see heavy armor getting a blanket buff that just adds a few extra mags of support ammo since the backpack slot is becoming so valuable every warbond.

>>717406060
It's the Jack of All Trades, and Master of None.

Every other Support Weapon is a specialization, from heavy-fuckers, to medium-fuckers, to light-fuckers, to aerial-fuckers. RR/EATs/Quasar/Spear will fuck up ultraheavies and heavies in one-to-two hits, Laser Cannon/AMR/HMG/Commando/Railgun/WASP will fuck up mediums very quickly and do good (but not great) work on heavies, Airburst/MG/Stalwart/Flamethrower will fuck up lights, do impressive work on mediums, and technically "work" for some heavies.

The Autocannon will do a good job against all of these. Taking out Harvesters/Fleshmobs/Hulks/Factory Striders/War Striders can be done, but with some mild work.

Alpha Commanders/Warriors/Stalkers/Overseers/Devastators/Berserkers will all take significant damage from either its APHET rounds or its Flak.

Everything else can be swatted away with one or two rounds of Flak, and aerial units are insanely weak to its Flak.

It is the one weapon that does EVERYTHING "good enough", but nothing EXCEEDINGLY well that isn't outclassed by some other weapon with some exceptions to skill (such as severing a Harvesters legs with well-aimed shots on its joints, killing a Hulk in 2 shots to its visor, or bringing down a Factory Strider with a mag of APHET to its bay doors on its belly)

If it can't eliminate it outright, it will cause significant damage to it OR nullify some of that enemies advantages like softening armor on bugs, destroying subsystems like the turrets on FS's, or staggering enemies)

>>717405993
>I am a full time employed adult with no partner and no children, and I can barely keep up with unlocking all the content

genuinely a skill issue. you should be able to consistently beat D10 missions in order to get all the medals and samples you need. outside of that D1 solo missions are where you get credits. yeah, you can say playing this way is grindy but I only do it when new shit comes out and I can get everything within 6-8 hours of gameplay over two or three days and then I can go back to having fun on D6 with randoms.

>>717415201
>Talks about skill issuez
>Doesn't even play on D10

>>717404889 (OP)
more like
>old engine console focused game
>pc plebs so poor they complain it wont work on a 970ti and they get low fps on a 2500k
never obsolete

>>717404889 (OP)
It yielded a steady supply of fanart dedicated to cute girls in fashionable scifi military uniforms, so I appreciate it on that merit.

>>717412554
Famous game killer dev that murdered Hello Neighbor 2 through sheer stupidity and arrogance.
Now he's the most public face of AHs balance department blessing us with wisdoms like
>removing the shrapnel from a weapon that deals most of its damage with the shrapnel has no impact on its kill breakpoints
or
>anti tank grade plasma can't break chainlink fences and shipping containers because it has no weight

>>717415425
That it did, anon. That it did.

>>717413957
>If every stratagem cooldown was divided by 10 we can start talking about fun
If you aren't having fun you should just play another game.

>>717415467
You'd pick SEAF-chan over eagle, right? Everybody knows airforce and infantry don't mix.

>>717415314
D7 bug defense is harder than D10 btw

>>717415507
GI's do the dyin' and Fleet does the flyin'

>>717413957
LMAO
AH wanted a harder core game and you can tell because it launched with co-op reloading and enemies which you had to cripple, distract and flank as a team or you just died
Now its a fucking joke. Literal loony toons. Any drooling retard can clear super helldive with the shittest of loadouts because every weapons fucking nukes armour enemies.
>thermite
>senator
>eruptor
No need for any other weapon that shit can kill anything in the game with ease

>>717415450
Remember when the thermite grenade released and it did so little damage that two of them couldn't kill a regular devastator? That faggot decided that it was working as intended.

>>717404889 (OP)
>dies
So you're making shit up now?

>>717415314
>Satania poster lacks reading comprehension

as expected. I play exclusively with randos so I'm used to having to tard wrangle. The things I outlined are what I do for my gameplay sessions. D10 isn't a problem for me so I play it when I want to. I'm not a retard like some of the general posters who refuse to do anything but D10, it gets stale.

>>717415837
Welcome to /v/, where 15year-olds make bait threads and hundreds of people fall for it.

>>717405018
Nothing
The game has been fine even with the Swedes fucking up from time to time people like to over exaggerate way to much for something not even that big.

>>717415718
This. All the difficulty and complexity is gone and replaced with EPIC power fantasy for console dads who want to feel EPIC for 30 minutes after work and FUARKING SALUTE THE FLAG OF SUPER EARTH!!! All that's left is some vestigial surprisingly detailed milsim mechanics

>>717405632
don't forget forget the fact that the game is slowly tearing at the seams because the devs stopped giving a shit about maintenance and debugging
at the rate they're constantly introducing new bugs and glitches the game will be literally unplayable before next spring

>/hdg/-troons enters the thread
Well threads over. It was nice while it lasted.

That's too bad.
I was going to give this a try since DRG is on life support.
How bullshit are the microtransactions in this?

>>717415970
>with EPIC power fantasy for console dads who want to feel EPIC for 30 minutes after work and FUARKING SALUTE THE FLAG OF SUPER EARTH!!!
So what the game has been advertised as since it was first released/shown?
>complexity
Like what?

>>717412975
It's supposed to add some flavor to the missions for a week, I guess. And steer the playerbase to different fronts in a totally not rigged war.

>>717406340
Heavy '''armor''' is just more health, that's it

>>717416053
Not really. All Super Credits (the game premium currency available for real money) can be easily farmed in-game, as well as every warbond giving you access to what basically amounts to at least 100 Super Credits per bond, on top of literally only spending $2 if you want a fairly large injection of Super Credits right-fucking-now.

I only spent $30 on the game and have never bought any SC with real life money and have every warbond unlocked, every non-warbond item I ever want bought, and I'm still sitting on top of 2.3k SC for doing nothing but playing the game and picking SC up whenever I see them.

>>717416053
>How bullshit are the microtransactions in this?
Just farm Low end missions for super credits to get War bounds you can get everything for Free you just need to grind unless you get lucky and 100 AC drops from POI and Bunkers

>>717412975
>Log in when you want to play
>do the MO objectives if you want, and don't do it if you don't
>that's it

What the earthly fuck is so difficult to understand, anon?

>>717415915
I mean HD2 is not pefect even if it's a great sequel from 1 but people really love to make shit up for shit that's either not true or overblown to an insane degree

>>717415929
>>717415425
>helmetless helldivers
into the bio-repurposer vats, both of you

SEAFies are made for manhandeling

>>717415970
>>717415718
Now kiss

>>717412975
>Like does the game expect me to log in every day to check progress, remember all the planet names etc, under who's control they were etc. ?
No?

>>717412975
It's rigged garbage that's supposed to give some structure to the war
I ignore them for the most part and just take the free medals when we're railroaded to victory

Why do they keep giving the enemies bigger leap attacks and warps behind you shit? Lot of bugs just burrow and backstab you, even Impalers are diving down the instant they spawn, then attacking without being able to be killed.

>>717416053
>>717416205
>every warbond giving you access to what basically amounts to at least 100 Super Credits per bond
Every single premium warbond (i.e. one bought with Super Credits, 1000 SC a pop) gives you back 300 SC as three separate 100 SC unlocks and the standard warbond you get with the game (Helldivers Mobilize) gives you a total of 750 SC staggered througout the warbond.

>>717416669
Eh, that's what I was getting at, but couldn't remember if it was just one injection of 100SC or 300SC, and I wasnt about to log in just to prove im right, so I stayed at a conservative number.

Still, for every warbond being essentially 700SC is nice since you get that 300 back

>>717404889 (OP)
gameplay is ultimately shallow for a long term coop game, doesn't really have much mastery in gameplay or demanding difficulty. Still a solid casual game to play with friends now and again.

>>717404889 (OP)
>Does nothing
It actually did something, it listened to shitters and neutered any challenge, I can beat a Diff 10 mission in my sleep.
I miss the bullshit and overwhelming spawnrate and not having nuclear option in every slot. "Muh power fantasy" niggers ruined everything.

>>717415425
>>717415467
>>717415507
Why don't they replace the ugly brown bitches on the hangar with a girl like this?