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Anonymous No.717422392 >>717422472 >>717422592 >>717422919 >>717423032 >>717425224 >>717425360 >>717426360 >>717427342 >>717427375 >>717427623 >>717428780 >>717431914 >>717432370 >>717433716 >>717433845 >>717438268 >>717438336 >>717438587 >>717442545 >>717443132 >>717445372
why am I supposed to hate it again?
Anonymous No.717422472 >>717422621 >>717422716 >>717422919 >>717423173
>>717422392 (OP)
First game was better.
Anonymous No.717422592 >>717422716 >>717427110
>>717422392 (OP)
It's boring as fuck. But if you like it, you like it. Just means you're a ginormous faggot
Anonymous No.717422621 >>717422716
>>717422472
personally I think rdr1 was better than revolver...
Anonymous No.717422673
Because the controls have lots of animation lock and therefore doesn't feel very responsive and snappy.
One could even argue that they went too far in the direction of realism on the expense of fun when it comes to the controls, and I can see where the complaints are coming from even if I don't agree.

Also the main missions were all gestapo level scripted out of the ass for no reason, so you take one wrong step that the quest designer didn't envision and it fails the mission for you.

Unfortunately, these things filter some people and they can't appreciate true kino, that is everything else.
Anonymous No.717422716
>>717422472
>>717422592
>>717422621
Because contrarianism and being gay.
Anonymous No.717422919
>>717422392 (OP)
Because it's popular and has lib writing

>>717422472
First one is very reparative and shallow in comparison to 2
It's only elevated some fun missions and that song in the start of maxico
Anonymous No.717423032
>>717422392 (OP)
Well if you're me you're kind of sick of the Rockstar forumula. That's why you hate it again. Although I don't hate it, I just don't think it's worth beating.
Anonymous No.717423120 >>717427183
A remaster for the PS5 would be great - faster load times, more features, etc.

They don't care.
Anonymous No.717423173 >>717425610
>>717422472
So much better. The second one forgot that it's supposed to be a video game.
Anonymous No.717423231
Because it's boring, pretentious slop
Anonymous No.717425224
>>717422392 (OP)
bump
Anonymous No.717425360
>>717422392 (OP)
/v/ is full of zoomers and gen alpha spastics. They don't have the attention spans to appreciate slowcore games.
Anonymous No.717425392 >>717427289
I sure enjoy brushing my horse 5 times in a row with a slow animation. I sure enjoy double tapping every time I want to shoot a second time.
Anonymous No.717425610
>>717423173
RDR2 is Red Dead Revolver 2, really.
Anonymous No.717426254 >>717426832
Game's alright but in hindsight the characters are cartoony compared to RDR1, strangers and freaks side missions have a goofy and quirky vibe to them rather than the eerie, intriguing vibe in 1 and many of them have writing that unimmerses you away from the setting. Villains don't really have memorable motivations to be your enemies, you have tons of writing potential for factions like the bushwhackers but it never develops anywhere besides "hey boy you don't respect authority" for the random goons to attack you. And then there's
>you saddled the wrong horse, mission failed
>you walked in the opposite direction from John, mission failed
If you take out the groundwork laid by RDR1 where you're interested in 2's story because "how did Dutch become like he is in 1" and such, the characterbuilding that doesn't hinge on 1 isn't that memorable. But I'm not gonna lie I liked playing it on launch even if I don't feel like replaying it now.
Anonymous No.717426360
>>717422392 (OP)
a youtuber said it was bad
Anonymous No.717426832
>>717426254
side quests in rdr2
>howdy mister, i'm a side quest guy, i'm somewhat silly and i need your help
side quests in rdr1
>i'm le gritty side quest guy, i will go insane over the course of my questline and it will conclude with John or Jack finding my raped dismembered corpse on a gravesite because that's gritty
Anonymous No.717427110
>>717422592
>fill a cabin with 20 bounty tied hounters, 50x dismembered outside, lure a bear, hide in top of the table, enjoy


this game is just too fun , 12 years and still there is joy in it
Anonymous No.717427183
>>717423120
imagine undead nightmare comes to RDR2
Anonymous No.717427289
>>717425392
how else would they know they are good boys or girls , are you all so detached from reality,
Anonymous No.717427342
>>717422392 (OP)
You're not supposed to hate or love anything but have independent thoughts.
Anonymous No.717427375 >>717427450 >>717429110
>>717422392 (OP)
You’re not, in fact the overwhelming majority of people love this game. Any popular or well made game is going to have contrarian autists come out of the wood work and tell you how shit it is with absolutely no facts to back it up. Or they’ll just make shit up to try and win some pointless online argument. I’ve also noticed a lot of chuds call this game woke because of one inconsequential mission where you’re essentially a body guard for a group of women’s suffrage protesters and because the character Sadie. Both are about as far removed from being woke as you can possibly get. Sure, there are a few minor gameplay gripes, but the game is practically perfect. Anyone that tells you otherwise is lying or has such shit taste in games that their opinion should immediately be disregarded.
Anonymous No.717427450 >>717427524 >>717427604 >>717428319
>>717427375
If you like rockstar games at this juncture you're a certified PLEB.
Anonymous No.717427524
>>717427450
we need manhunt 3
Anonymous No.717427604
>>717427450
Why?
Anonymous No.717427623 >>717427902
>>717422392 (OP)
Because half of /v/ was underage when it released and their ADHD minds couldn't handle a slow burn story and gameplay that wasn't GTA online
Anonymous No.717427902
>>717427623
Zoomers are without a doubt worse than boomers. At least boomers aren’t actually retarded and have attention spans greater than that of a house fly.
Anonymous No.717428319 >>717428489
>>717427450
>t. dark souls and tranime games player
funny because I'd say the same about you
Anonymous No.717428489 >>717428673 >>717430284
>>717428319
>YOU HAVE TASTE?!? YOU MUST LOVE ROLLSLOP AND ANIME-WAIFU SIMULATORS!!!
Weird take, tbqh.
Anonymous No.717428673
>>717428489
Very weird, even.
Anonymous No.717428780 >>717431045 >>717431827
>>717422392 (OP)
garbage controls
moviegame nonsense
faggoty shitlib sensibilities
in order of importance

I genuinely don't know how anyone can tolerate dogshit controls, and RDR2's are worse than Rockstar's normal lows because they had the brilliant idea to make it more of a sim with assloads of radial menus on a fucking gamepad. It's the one part of a game you're literally interacting with constantly, and if it feels constantly like shit, THE GAME feels constantly like shit.
Anonymous No.717429110 >>717430505
>>717427375
>the character Sadie
>about as far removed from being woke as you can possibly get
Yeah and America isn't run by Jews.
Anonymous No.717430284
>>717428489
50IQ zoomer hands typed this
Anonymous No.717430437 >>717446463
>do a mission in which you can enter new austin as arthur without dealing with the sniper
>get otis revolver and scarecrow hat
>complete mission was a replay, btw
>turns out, nothing saved
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Back to drinking and picking up deer
Anonymous No.717430505 >>717430730 >>717432425
>>717429110
She’s a minor character at best and nothing about her is woke. She’s an independent woman, so what? I don’t remember the mission where she’s explaining systems of power to Arther, or bitching about the patriarchy and how women are superior. Get a girlfriend sperg
Anonymous No.717430730 >>717431442 >>717432425
>>717430505
Bait used to be believable, and I simply don't think you're as dumb as you're putting on. If you are, there's no use in further discourse.
Anonymous No.717431045 >>717431280 >>717431287 >>717431732 >>717432732 >>717433846
>>717428780
Wow, check out this anon! He somehow found out that the hundreds of professional, independent, and user reviews praising how incredible this game is were all actually mistaken? Nope, this magnanimous person figured out they were all completely wrong! God bless you sir!
Anonymous No.717431280 >>717431615 >>717434720
>>717431045
>argument from popularity
>argument from authority
Anonymous No.717431287 >>717431615
>>717431045
Most people in any population are subject to social peer pressure which big companies exploit for revenue. Call it hype, recency bias, whatever. But I'm never going to like something just because others do.
Anonymous No.717431442 >>717432336 >>717432425
>>717430730
>NNNOOOOOOOOO!!! This is bait!!!
>Random culture war YouTuber #561 told me this game is woke trash so I don’t have to play it for myself!!!
>NO FURTHER DISCOURSE!!!!

You sound like such a little bitch
Anonymous No.717431615 >>717431732 >>717431907 >>717432524
>>717431280
>>717431287
You’re both either delusional, stupid as hell, or completely disingenuous.
Anonymous No.717431732
>>717431045
>>717431615
Back to 9gag you go
Anonymous No.717431827
>>717428780
This
Anonymous No.717431907
>>717431615
>ad hominem
Man, I'm filling out my whole Bingo-card, it seems
Anonymous No.717431914
>>717422392 (OP)
huh? no one fucking cares about you nigga quit spamming this shit
Anonymous No.717432336
>>717431442
Played it the day it came out anon. It isn't a very good video game. If all you play is mainstream AAA trash, and THAT'S your metric of political correctness, then your ignorance is understandable but not excusable. I think you would benefit by partaking in historical media, as in you should watch movies that came out at any point in the last 100 years to at least easily get a vague idea of what standards for male and female roles and behavior have actually been, at least in fiction, as RDR2 is. I know that sounds obvious, and I am indulging my worst habits with this bout of excessive condescension, but you come across as a young person with a young mind who has genuinely never seen or read anything from before the turn of the century, as the fundamental building blocks of what you call wokeness have been engrained in your society for longer than you or I have been alive.
If you compare Sadie with female characters in essentially any iconic Western film from any period, the insane political sanitization in the 2018 Rockstar game is so self-evident that I just assume you're being dishonest.
Anonymous No.717432370
>>717422392 (OP)
It prioritizes realism over fun gameplay. RDR2 is the ultimate normalfag game, if you don't play many games you get a giant map to explore and you can basedface at the graphics and the details like being able physically browse the catalog at the store. But if you care about gameplay you wanna skip all that bullshit and get to the good parts and you want the game to be snappy and responsive. RDR1 plays much better on a moment to moment basis because of that and I'd argue it's a better game overall because it doesn't have 30hrs of filler to pad the playtime.

RDR1 still has that classic Rockstar edge, RDR2 feels neutered by comparison and it shows in the MC, Arthur is a spineless cuck that takes shit from everyone.
Anonymous No.717432425
>>717431442
>>717430730
I mean, it's a pretty consistent theme that Arthur is the wokest man in the west. Literally the first interaction he has with the gang is denouncing heckin' racism, then going out hunting with his "Native" (total anachronism by the way.) best friend that they retconned in.

>>717430505
1. A woman wearing pants in that era is literally a scandalous newsworthy event, which is her first mission, and one of the first missions in the open world, and a required one for story progression.

2. She reputedly beats men in fist fights.

3. She becomes not just the only female bounty hunter to have ever existed, but operates a solo outfit where she kills hundreds alone with small arms.

4. She repeatedly kills hundreds of people alone, with out even having a rifle, or horse. She rolls up on a barricaded building with a knife, and kills everyone inside.

5. You have multiple missions where you're just following around, and watching from afar (you're supposed to be super impressed riding around in a balloon watching the cool woo-man through binoculars in the cuck basket) this legendary figure that makes Wyatt Earp look like a pacifist who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with the amount of kills she racks up in a afternoon.
Anonymous No.717432509 >>717435117
Remember when Rockstar could be edgy?
Anonymous No.717432524 >>717432617 >>717434584
>>717431615
You don't get to prop up "professional" game reviewers and then call anyone else stupid without pushback anon.
Anonymous No.717432617 >>717432780
>>717432524
No worse blind man than one who doesn't want to see.
Anonymous No.717432732 >>717433846
>>717431045
Are you really trying to make the claim that professional reviewers opinion is worth anything?
Anonymous No.717432780
>>717432617
Wanna try that in proper English?
Anonymous No.717433716
>>717422392 (OP)
Every knows about the boring gameplay, but the story is also terrible. You have to turn off your brain in order to enjoy it. Arthur goes on an unjustified killing spree every single mission and that's never addressed and the game continues to treat Arthur like an angel. This is what passes as good storytelling to gaymers? What a joke
Anonymous No.717433845 >>717434567
>>717422392 (OP)
Is this game playable without HUD? Like the missions are designed supposing you are constantly looking looking at the mini-map or are they more "organic" (think Morrowind vs Skyrim or Gothic 2 vs The Witcher 3). I am tired of this overreliance on HUD in Rockstar games.
Anonymous No.717433846 >>717434487
>>717431045
>professional reviews
how new are you?
see
>>717432732
Anonymous No.717433938
Why are there so many threads about this game all of the sudden?
Anonymous No.717434487 >>717434654 >>717434875
>>717433846
A few hundred pro reviews all said it’s amazing. Millions of indie reviewers and regular people agreed it’s insanely good after playing it. I like how you cherry picked one part of the post to claim you’re right. Zoomers just really are this fucking stupid.
Anonymous No.717434567
>>717433845
If you want to fuck around in the open world you can turn it off. If you want to play through the story and do missions no because the game is huge and you have to get to specific places. Rockstar mission design fundamentally hasn't changed since GTA 3 it's almost always: ride to NPC quest giver icon -> go to designated location -> shoot a bunch of guys -> mission successful screen. Rinse and repeat.
Anonymous No.717434584 >>717435104
>>717432524
Millions of people agreed with them. You know, millions that actually played the game and confirmed it was awesome.
Anonymous No.717434654 >>717434956
>>717434487
Again retarded, professional reviewers don't matter, and most indie reviewers as well as regular people are normalfags. If anyone is a zoomer, it's fucking you.
Anonymous No.717434720
>>717431280
You have no idea what argument by authority means, do you? When was authority being used? Watch less Charlie Kirk and Shapiro dude.
Anonymous No.717434875
>>717434487
It's logical to assume that whatever's in your mind that decides to trust other people's opinions is questionable when you stand behind the Pro faggots who hate video games and hate gaming enthusiasts. If you stand by their word, then it's also logical to question anyone else you endorse along with them.
Please understand, the problem is you.
Anonymous No.717434956 >>717435031 >>717435473
>>717434654
We have another genius, 5D chess playing anon here who cracked the code of why millions of people who loved RDR2 were completely lied to by their own experience with the game. Wizard Chuddy McChudson here needs to get out from behind his anon status and change the way we all look at and play games! Damn, if only we could be as insanely smart and ultra aware as you!
Anonymous No.717435031 >>717435243
>>717434956
and you have failed to prove me wrong
Anonymous No.717435104
>>717434584
Millions of people are microwaving their food in plastic. Yes, all of those millions are obviously making retarded choices. Millions of people get fooled, swindled, and ripped off constantly. I'm not doing fuck all because millions of people do anything. It's unfathomable that I have to argue against genuine appeals to popularity on this shithole of all places. Do better, grow up, etc.
Anonymous No.717435117 >>717435578
>>717432509
Yeah, you retards have never understood satire. Poe's law attracting racist tribalists who never developed past their tweens is evergreen. Did you know Eric Cartman is supposed to be an antagonist? His opinions are meant to be seen as uneducated and stupid, and they always were, you just identified with him and mistook it for something else. You'll die stupid
Anonymous No.717435243 >>717435352
>>717435031
debatetard at it again. get over it lil bro you'll never get another chance at your middle school debate club
Anonymous No.717435352 >>717435418
>>717435243
nah I was just celebrating my victory, unlike you who was to busy sperging like the ultimate mega faggot that he is
Anonymous No.717435379
Shills aren't paid to be clever, are they?
Anonymous No.717435418 >>717435791
>>717435352
Stay assblasted and alone lol
Anonymous No.717435473 >>717436176
>>717434956
If you don't play many games or only play slop you're easily impressionable. The average normalfag isn't analyzing gameplay and he certainly isn't playing older games, you can't tell something is wrong if you have nothing to compare it to, you have no cultural frame of reference. And there is this perception in the mainstream that production value = game quality and RDR2 has sky high production value so of course it must be a 10/10.
Anonymous No.717435578 >>717437912
>>717435117
>WAAH EVERYTHING I DON'T LIKE IS RACIST WAAAAH WAAAAAH
Anonymous No.717435791
>>717435418
no u
Anonymous No.717436176
>>717435473
These are the consequences of a cultural sewer that only looks at games as software that are supposed to get better over time. At a certain point, the unwashed normie just going with the flow and the perceived consensus recognizes all new things as quality art and resents anyone for finding value in art from the past.
It sucks to know that you exist in a subpar moment in history but that's life.
Anonymous No.717436404
>in RDR1, the "Redemption" in the title is meant to be ironic, as John could never truly outrun his ugly past actions despite his sudden efforts
>in RDR2, the "Redemption" in title means that even though Arthur is a mass murderer that slaughtered countless people and did horrible things his whole life, he's a heckin wholesome dindu that started "helping people" at the end so that makes it all ok
2 has its merits but in general it feels like a gross misinterpretation of 1. The tonal contrast between the two games is like night and day.
Anonymous No.717437912
>>717435578
Crying baby avatarfag
Anonymous No.717438268
>>717422392 (OP)
Because the actual gameplay beyond looking at pretty vistas is repetitive slog-ass.
The game has to ruin immersion every mission by throwing 300 goons at you to shoot because it's a 3rd person shooter designed for the average normie. Also it over-relies on walk-and-talk and as soon as you're stuck either loading a save or just with a character you don't give a fuck about it's just minutes of waiting doing fucking nothing.
The stories it tells are engaging and many of the characters are fun though.
Anonymous No.717438336 >>717438509
>>717422392 (OP)
Over animated
If I'm turning a 180 I want an instant input
Anonymous No.717438509
>>717438336
Sorry zoomer, go play some zoomer games for your zoomer attention span. Perhaps Quake, Resident Evil or Thief: The Dark Project are more your speed.
Anonymous No.717438587 >>717439772
>>717422392 (OP)
The story is not very good. Nothing the characters do add up and it just makes it seem like an idiot plot. I mean these are supposedly people that know to be suspicious and should know a snake when they see one yet they don’t put two and two together with Micah. And even if they didn’t know he was the rat then how the hell didn’t anyone kill his ass before that. No one in the gangs can stand him aside from Dutch. Even Bill thinks he’s a prick and Bill is an asshole. Like it would be so easy to just bushwhack him while they were out or they could have just left him to be hanged in strawberry. His existence in the story didn’t feel organic it felt like a plot device.
Anonymous No.717439772 >>717442008
>>717438587
True, Micah should've been a red herring
Like keep him a horrendous asshole but have it be someone the player doesn't already have a thousand reasons to despise be the rat
Anonymous No.717442008 >>717442253
>>717439772
>keep your enemy closer

dull as a butter knife this gen
Anonymous No.717442253
>>717442008
Keeping your enemy closer would imply that Micah is the villain and he was only around because he would be more dangerous unsupervised. What he said was about making someone else the rat.
Anonymous No.717442371
Because it's a moviegame. 99.99% of the time you're not being challenged in any way. If your into that type of crap you are niggerfaggot.
Anonymous No.717442545
>>717422392 (OP)
Idk I just got bored with it.
Anonymous No.717443132
>>717422392 (OP)
Hell, I don't know Dutch, I reckon games with no stories are a dyin' breed. If a game wants a feller to walk straight for a few minutes and listen, ain't that up to them?
Anonymous No.717445372
>>717422392 (OP)
Boring. The game has more boring gameplay than fucking Death Stranding.
Anonymous No.717446463 >>717447338 >>717447346 >>717447456
>>717430437
Can someone please tell me if Otis Miller is worth it?

I've been doing this for fucking hours and I can't take it. For reference, I mainly use the Lemat for Arthur
Anonymous No.717447338
>>717446463
No.
Anonymous No.717447346
>>717446463
use the shotgun, nothing funnier than a bunch of headless riders
Anonymous No.717447456
>>717446463
I finally got it. Fuck