Thread 717484853

>>717484853 (OP)
Tbh it was just as broken as New Vegas on release
Didn't brick any consoles doe, so New Vegas reigns supreme

how much of this came true?

>>717484853 (OP)
I actually agree that Cyberpunk 2077 with all of it's updates and Phantom Liberty is better than NV.
However.
Base Cyberpunk vs. Base New Vegas NV wins.

I'm still happy to have them both in the collection though. They're both great games.

>>717485035
I don't think Phantom Liberty added that much. The town's cool and the sidequests can be good, but the main story sucks ass.

>>717484923
I don't even know what "pen and paper rpg" even means, but the rest seems accurate.

>>717485035
Yeah it's almost unfair to compare them. New Vegas received what? 1 maybe 2 years of official updates? Cyberpunk has seemingly been getting update after update for 5 years now since its release and apparently there's more coming.

>>717484853 (OP)
-ssed.
cyberpunk is cool though

>>717485314
pen and paper is tabletop stuff, like dungeons and dragons
the grandaddy of all vidya rpgs

>>717484853 (OP)
Cyberpunk is not an RPG. It's a good open world action adventure game.

>>717485380
yeah, I just don't ever know what it means in the context of a video game.

>>717485314
New Vegas did get a lot more DLC than Cyberpunk though.
The lack of patches was more because of Bethesda's shitty and file system structure than anything else.
Also why is Cyberpunk still getting patches? I thought the final one was supposed to be like a year ago.

>>717485463
It means you have three trees of perks that increase percentages to make you more faster or shoot better

>>717485309
Mainline phantom liberty was a betrayal of everything 2077 stood for. Happy endings, working for corpos-governance, Hollywood bullshit.
You can see precisely how cdpr felt about inserted Hollywood political bs in the mission where you literally get help for the fatfuck gay retard that thought he was a wimin

>>717485551
Yeah I'm not blaming Obsidian. Google says there are more patches coming to Cyberpunk.

>>717485602
Gotcha.

>>717485463
The original rpg mechanics for the game were supposed to be lifted from the tabletop Cyberpunk 2020, but the devs had a falling out over how faithful the mechanics should be and the old guard responsible for the witcher games left the company. The remaining guys shat the bed with the rpg mechanics, which had to be fixed THRICE since release

>>717485635
>Happy endings, working for corpos-governance, Hollywood bullshit.
Could you elaborate on these gripes?

I hate a few things about Cyberpunk

1, it's not even my own custom character's story. I'm trapped being fucking Keanu Reeves and the game is more about him than my own guy.
2, V is just an annoying douchebag. Horribly unlikable. I hated his guts, literally had to change the voice acting to Japanese so he didn't sound like a whiny faggot.

These are both pretty huge story handicaps that will always keep the game from being in the class of something like New Vegas for me.

Nee Vegas is shit, so yeah - guess there's another huge steaming turd in town. Enjoy your troonslop.

>>717485709
Oh, interesting. I just recently starting Cyberpunk. I wonder how it's changed over time. I knew it was a glitchy mess when it came out so I waited till now to try it out kek.

>>717485439
You guys act like being an RPG means anything more than stats and XP.

>>717485882
That's just some stupid headcanon from the people who hyped themselves up about a fictional game that only ever existed in their heads.

>>717485808
Oh, really? Does Keanu really take over the story? In my game, he’s barely been introduced and he seems like an antagonist at the moment, slowly taking over the mind of V (not purposefully either, but still kind of like a bug in the brain). I’m guessing there’s either going to be a partnership of sorts or I can tell him to go F himself at various points throughout the game.


I’m just really digging the atmosphere at the moment.

>>717485635
>the mission where you literally get help for the fatfuck gay retard that thought he was a wimin
I'm assuming this is about Claire Russel. I've explained this before in other threads, but:
>The in-game advert for Chromanticore soft drinks featured a leotard wearing chick with a huge hog, with the phrase "Mix-It-Up". This is entirely in-line with the sleazy and sexualised world of 2077.
>Twitter Trannies got butt-blasted over this, and CDPR initially responded to said butt-blasting with derision and mockery. I'm assuming one investor call later and CDPR were bending over backwards to "make amends".
>Enter Mr/Mrs Russel. In existing Cyberpunk cannon there is a character called Marianne Russel-Freeman, who is a full-body-modded male to female (full body mods are pretty severe but can basically rebuild you as anything you want). They run a bar called the Forlorn Hope where a bunch of Fixers hang out.
>In-game files indicate that Claire was originally Marianne, and the Forlorn Hope was also present.
>My assumption is that a full body mod sexchange character would have been deemed "problematic" as it implied there is a "cure" or an "end state" to trans-sexualism. Trannies can't be special if you can literally buy the body of your dreams. So Marianne was swapped for Claire, The Beast gigs were added/retro-fitted, and CDPR hoped the whole drama would resolve itself.

>>717485551
>Also why is Cyberpunk still getting patches? I thought the final one was supposed to be like a year ago
2.12 was supposed to be it. CDPR said they will no longer work on 2077. And in some ways that was true. What they did was outsource future patches to Virtuous Games (who recently did the Oblivion Remaster). But also during that time CDPR had a change of leadership, so it's possible they had a change of heart over the future of 2077.
Honestly it would be retarded of them to not keep patching the game and adding content. It's basically a live testing ground for features they want to put into 2077-2 whenever that comes out.

>>717486159
The Relic (and by extension Johnny) is the game's McGuffin that the plot centers around. Johnny is stuck in your head slowly but unwillingly taking over V's mind. He delivers exposition, history and insight into Nighty City. You can sympathise with his anarchistic plight or tell him to go get fucked by working for the corp that he died fighting against.

>>717485923
>You guys act like being an RPG means anything more than stats and XP.
I think by RPG people are wanting things like:
>Variety of build options
>Extensive skills/talent trees/options
>Meaningful decisions/dialogues
>Multiple endings
CP2077 half-ticks a bunch of those, but it definitely sacrifices them for more action elements.

>>717485309
the conclusion to the story was amazing (and the "things changed" ending is arguably NOT CANON FUCK THAT SHIT)

>>717485314
>5 years
Holy fuck, it can't be. The shitposting on release feels way too recent

>>717484853 (OP)
>the anime is more detailed and full of life than the game
>new vegas the post apocalyptic game literally has more working transportation than cyberpunk
>far cry tier RPG stats
>useless weapons
>gta tier missions
>the ugliest shittiest cars someone could think of
>the shittiest and boring driving from how little thought was put into the city layout
>NPCs in GTA IV and san andreas have more life to them
>games is full of trannies instead of trannies playing it
>surpassing new vegas

>>717485314
>Cyberpunk has seemingly been getting update after update for 5 years now
and its still a piece of shit boring game

>>717486562
>>the anime is more detailed and full of life than the game
no... it isn't. in fact the biggest problem with the anime is it didn't have nearly enough time to flesh out it's world and characters

>>717485463
>yeah, I just don't ever know what it means in the context of a video game.
The original table top RPG (Cyberpunk 2013/202) was a pastiche of existing cyberpunk materials and framed in an 80s vision of the future. It's a grab-bag of themes/styles from The Warriors, Mad Max, Escape from NY/LA, Blade Runner, Neuromancer, and probably a bunch of others.
It was one of the earlier RPGs to start you off as an every-man character who strives for greatness. You had class/role options like Media (Journalist), Rockerboy (Musician), Lawman (Police), Corpos, Solos (Mercenaries), Nomads (Bikers), Techs (Medics and Engineers), Fixers (Organisers and Grifters), and Netrunners (Hackers).
It was also somewhat notorious for having A LOT of intricate mechanics, especially when it came to gears and guns. Different ammo types, weapon mods, clothing, armour, cyberwear, gear etc. It all added up to giving you little bonuses to edge cases, and often having the right tool for the right job mattered.
Typical games would involve you and your mates making up some characters, starting a crew, and running low-level jobs for Fixers around Night City. You'd either achieve fame and greatness (and then die), or you wouldn't (and then die). It was a lot about going out in a blaze of glory - living fast and free.
Some people were kinda miffed when Cyberpunk 2077 ended up being more of an Action Game with some RPG elements. Fair enough. Cyberpunk has a lot of fans, and the original creator of 2013/2020 was involved with CDPR in bringing 2077 to life. That and the launch back in 2020 was abysmal, as the game was released quite bug-laden and nearly unplayable on older generation consoles.

>>717486643
>biggest problem with the anime is it didn't have nearly enough time to flesh out it's world and characters
I think it was exactly enough time. I want more Edgerunners, but I don't want more about the Martinez Crew. Their time is done. I'm happy that Edgerunners S2 is going to follow a new crew. It'd be nice if we end up with a bunch of anthologies set in NC.

>>717484853 (OP)
this is your bar? a half finished game with fuck ugly NPCs, retarded plot, buggy mess, too much sun for a place called "night city" and gay garbage up the ass? kys already, nigger

>>717487078
Its called night after the founder, not the actual concept of the night

>>717486562
>the ugliest shittiest cars
Oh cmon at least make your hate post believable. I’m a car lover irl and this game is like car porn to me.

>>717486991
>I think it was exactly enough time
well the standard for most media has dropped considerably in the last decade so that's not surprising you were satisfied

>>717487191
Could also be that I like shorter, self-contained stories? I don't need Stranger Things or GoT level narratives to keep me entertained. Tell me a good story which doesn't overstay its welcome.

>>717485694
>0 traffic in sight

>>717484853 (OP)
People only play this slop for the porn, lol
New Vegas is an actual game

>>717485035
>Phantom Liberty is better than NV
absolutely not
>Dogtown is shittier than Combat Zone
>the whole "rich people come here to do business and everyone else is lives in poverty" is literally just Night City on a smaller scale
>Hansen is a Far Cry villain
>the Barghest look like theyre out of Dying light
>there is even more talking and exposition dump than before. Its like a visual novel
>Bethesda-tier air drop and car stealing missions
the only good thing are the side gigs. Theyre actually kino. Even some parts of the main story are fine

>>717487342
it clearly was a show that deserved 24 episodes, fuck even 12 would've been better. you just consume whatever slop you're fed no questions asked

>>717484923
heres my take. Im trying to be generous and leave CDPR room to say "well technically..."

>>717487142
Gonna post some more car porn

>>717487345
Streets can often become quite packed with cars actually

>>717484923
>1
yeah
>2
yeah, largely
>3
it's not super deep and impactful, but there are at least tons of instances where your ingame build determines what dialogue you can choose - in 99% of cases it doesn't affect what you can do though, it's just another line for immersion
>4
I would say there are 3 classes - 1, weapons, no hiding, 2, hiding, stealth, 3, quickhacks focus. I think quickhacks is the "stealth archer" build of cyberpunk 2077
>5
upgrades are irrelevant, implants can have some impact and there are quite many guns, I would say this one is fine
>6
that's just sales mumbojumbo, don't care

>>717487602
Kinopunk

>>717487602
>>717487643
>>717487898
while these are nice there is a photo mode specifically designed to take ingame screenshots

>>717487491
You're a strange, bitter person who can't actually imagine another human having different but valid tastes, wants or needs. Even small deviations from what you perceive to be "correct" seems to revolt you.

Don't breed.

>>717488001
Yeah

Kino game. Photo mode update was one of the best changes they made. Character placement is still gay though.

>>717484853 (OP)
I will NOT play this wokeslop from a woke company

>>717488132
I defo should use photo mode but oh well, this is what I got for now

>>717488227
Apparently they are going to make Ciri sexy again. Just gotta keep pushing society in the right direction. I don’t think most people ever gave a shit about LGBT nonsense. We just have to try to neutralize those libtard hatemobs.

>I-it's in the future, it has to have degeneracy and troons!
Umm no? Just create a game where everyone is white and straight.

>>717488418
We can try to keep steering society into that direction and maybe that will be the future, Cyberpunk 2078 might have no troons and be 100% white people.

CDPR will apparently make Ciri sexy again and I think that’s a great sign. We should try to keep that momentum going and attempt to destroy the woketards completely.


I will celebrate whenever anyone (game companies included) decides to take down their LGBT flags and abandon the woke shit.

Creativadaddy just chillin in a bar with some bitches

Also, they put friggin Twisted Metal in this game apparently haha

iight last one for now. Just think it's freakin cool that there's weaponized cars with turrets and missiles on them. Reminds me of my favorite childhood game series, Twisted Metal.