Thread 717758580

Why the fake outrage over this? This looks good
>Enemies don't react to getting hit
Yes they do, they don't get hitstun when they are in hyperarmor about to attack, which many action games do
>Muh hitstop too long
But when Dragon's Smegma and DMC and Monster Hunter do it it's good???

Great thread, let's all refute OP's retarded ragebait for the next 300 posts.

>>717758580 (OP)
looks so bad and it's taking the worst design aspects from Silent Hill 2 (which killed the series) rahter than the first game (which jump started the series). Namely, slow enemies and slow combat.
You should be facing off against animalistic enemies who gang up on you and want you dead. There should be a whole zoo up against you rather than slow humanoids.

That enemy is clearly derived from Sh2's mannequin as well.

The important question is: What does Sphere Hunter think? Suzi is a certifiable Silent Hill aficionado!

>>717758736
It's not bait at all
>>717758765
That's just one of the enemies

>>717758924
>>717758580 (OP)
How do I immediately knwo this is Unreal?

>which many action games do
is silent hill an action game?

>>717758580 (OP)
>which many action games do
Now tell me what Silent hill is supposed to be.

>>717759719
Yes, it is.

>>717758580 (OP)
>But when Dragon's Smegma and DMC and Monster Hunter do it it's good???
Yes, because it fits those games.
It's immersion breaking in Silent Hill and it evaporates the horror aspect which is the central aspect in Silent Hill. Ninja dashing around and having action game-tier hitstun looks incredibly stupid in Silent Hill and it's NOT SCARY.

>>717760068
A survival horror soulslike
Much better direction than walking simulator crap Kojimbo wanted to do
Also it's not true Silent Hill was not meant to be action or have boss fights

>>717760682
>soulslike
Then it's garbage.

Also

>HURR YOU ALWAYS FOUGHT IN SH
Not the point.

>>717760794
>Then it's garbage
Git gud

>>717758580 (OP)
>muh blocks and coins. Oh but it's OK when super Mario does it?

>muh vespine gas. Oh but it's ok when starcraft does it.

>muh nuclear ghandi. Oh but it's ok when civ does it.


Anon comparing things to wildly different things is silly.

>>717758580 (OP)
This looks jank as fuck. Not as much as SH2 or SH4, but worse than SH1/3

>>717760269
>It's immersion breaking in Silent Hill
Yeah because it used to have such realistic and immersive animations
>>717760794
>>HURR YOU ALWAYS FOUGHT IN SH
>Not the point.
Wrong

Silent Hill F(lop)

general red flags:
>80€ for a AA game from a chink studio (their first own game after only doing RE:Verse)
>UE5 (asset store animations & unoptimized af)
>japanese setting (silent hill PHENOMENON)
>piss easy puzzles, with hinako telling you the solutions
>constant 'anime' grunting
>enemies look like straight out of homecoming / downpour (dolls, mine bats)
>every enemy gets introduced by screeching into the camera like a soulsboss
>only one ending on first playthrough, you have to play it several times to get the whole story
>not even a mainline SH, but a spin-off (just a rebranded horror game)

gameplay:
>action-focused SOULSLOP
>RNG stats faggotry (currency called 'faith' can be traded for gacha buffs like in book of memories)
>hit-stop on every hit (enemies don't actually react to being hit)
>teleportation-tier dodging
>no guns, only melee weapons
>weapon durability (you have to repair weapons with repair kits; you can only carry 3 weapons)
>focus mode after 'perfect parry' with slo-mo; sanity meter depleting on every action; at 0 sanity inability to move, meaning you might get softlocked; (konami didn't want to show these in gameplay footage)
>most enemies cannot be outrun, you have to fight

story:
>female protag (schoolgirl drama with woke gender theory themes)
>hinako refuses to 'abide by the patriarchy' by rejecting her role as a female while also being the most beautiful in her class (lmao) and being bullied by her envious peers for it
>hinako's sister was "ruined" by marriage (anti marriage, anti-natalist)
>hinako's parents are in an abusive relationship (anti-relationship, anti-monogamy)
>extremely woke with the most outragious content deep into the game, so that you can't refund anymore

>>717758580 (OP)
DD, DMC and MH all have short hitstuns on light attacks and longer hitstuns on heavy hitting attacks. SHF has long-ass hitstuns on everything, it's terrible.

>>717762990
>DD, DMC and MH all have short hitstuns on light attacks and longer hitstuns on heavy hitting attacks
Lol

>>717763625
Picking cherries are we?

>>717760092
>wasting bullets during the school segment

uh oh

>>717758580 (OP)
>This looks good
nein

>>717763936
>I-it doesn't count

Because it's not silent hill.

Even if it's shit, I'm sure the OST will at least be good because Dai and others are working on it

>>717759017
That's a video game of course it's not real

>>717758874
Kill yourself.

>>717765015
This one shows exactly what I'm talking about, thanks.

>>717758580 (OP)
>no hills
>loud
>no fog
where silent hills?

>>717758580 (OP)
It looks awful, but the thing is that's without context. /v/ are just ragebaiting because they imply that the original silent hills had better combat when they don't. This (slop) is an improvement in every way.

why is there a stuttering each time character hit someone?
dont devs realize this is irritating?

>>717758580 (OP)
listen, faggot, you're taking this series and transforming it into something unrecognizable. I'm all for innovation but this ain't it. I'm not the biggest fan of this franchise, but I did play 1 and 2, and even I could tell you that the devs for this game are missing the point. silent hill itself is supposed to be this oppressive, foreboding, and atmospheric realm that reflects the darkest elements of the main character's inner psyche. you can't win against something like that in any conventional way (i.e. physical combat). instead, you need to navigate its horrors and face the darkest elements of yourself that inevitably proliferate from the cursed grey fog.

arguably, the entire experience may be one huge hallucination. it's supposed to be a mindfuck; a little bit of a thriller, a little bit psychological horror, and a little bit survival horror. this? this is a creatively bankrupt attempt at making something that adheres to design trends of the last decade or so.
>dark souls was almost like a survival horror game, and people loved that!!!!
>alright so what can we uproot from it and throw into our own game???
you people say you hate soulslop but this is by far a more egregious example of fromsoft having negative influence on the industry, and you can't even blame them for it.

not saying it shouldn't have a combat system at all, but silent hill shouldn't have a combat system approximating fucking dark souls (or any sort of arpg for that matter)

Looks fucking awful, they need to remove the hit stun shit

>>717769587
>I'm all for innovation... but i'm actually not
Cope

>>717758580 (OP)
why does konami hate silent hill so much?

>>717771541
cute girl, thanks for that, but I do not appreciate your worthless response. say something more substantive next time. you are also welcome to not say anything at all.

>>717758580 (OP)
The girl looks ugly so I won't buy it. There is something seriously wrong with her face. I guess I'm stuck replaying Silent Hill 1 and Silent Hill 3 until the end of time, Silent Hill is a dead IP to me.

>>717758580 (OP)
I can't tell if that ghost is supposed to be a mannequin or bdsm naked woman

>>717772057
>why does konami hate silent hill so much?

They haven't known what to do after the original director has left. The new team made a very artistic sequel, but it actually led to decreased sales (it built up a fanbase over time). They panicked and made a very action focused part 3 but the sales didn't recover. Then they outsourced it to retards. nOw they're outsourcing it to Japanese retards.

I think they should have just brought Keiichiro Toyama and Sony together. Say: Look, let's make a new Silent Hill, let's use a Konami or Sony engine for it, let's make it multi-plat, make it solid liek the old days.

>>717758580 (OP)
>Random game with nothing to do with Silent Hill
>Why are people mad it's under the Silent Hill name?
I gurantee you no one would bat an eye if it was named some shit like Death Mannequins of the flowers or something but that's a new IP and dangerous.
It's not like Konami hasn't been pissing all over Silent Hills grave with PT and releasing countless pachinko machines with silent hill plaster all over them because oh boy do japs love gambling.

>>717772301
Ugly uncnany element to gmaes looking for "photo realism".

Funny enough, that Horizon game mostly avoids the uncanny ugly and just goes for straight normal ugly characters.

>>717758580 (OP)
It looks dull, only good thing I can say is some of the setting and visuals look nice..
Also no reason to put a Silent Hill in japan other than Konami are run by average hypernationalist japs who can't stand one of their most popular series being a non-japanese setting.

Also Higurashi is shit. Deal with it.

>>717769587
holy based, trvthnvke

>>717774546
>nOw they're outsourcing it to Japanese retards
chink studio, anon, it's even worse

>>717769587
Fromsoft is not responsible for developers making an ass out of themselves while trying to copy their success

>>717758580 (OP)
>fake outrage
It's LITERALLY yet another SH Homocoming reskin. Only fake fans who were not even BORN back in 1999-2004 would ever consider this slop acceptable, or "SH".

>>717774976
home coming was just american sh fans trying to make a modernized sh2. The Sh fan base gets what they fucking deserve.

>>717774976
>>717777125
Cool now say "I love my daddy"

Why does a 2001 game look better than this?

>>717762375
BASED

>>717764549
>wasting bullets
It's better to use bullets there actually.
>Streets
Always best to dodge enemies.
>Hospital
Puppet nurses are slow and easy to dodge. Becomes trickier during the nightmare section, but if there's multiple nurses in one tight hall, then your handgun is barely a good option.
>Caterpillar
Best to shoot with handgun, which you won't have used in a while anyways.
>Moth
Blast it with anything.
>Sewers
Easy to dodge.
>Path to lighthouse
Easy to dodge.
>Cybil
Shotgun. Rifle is too slow, handgun is too weak.
>Nowhere
Same as hospital in regards to enemies.
>Incubator/Incubus
Rifle > Shotgun > Handgun

The school is the only place where the handgun is a really valuable tool.

>>717769004
Indian

>>717774546
Toyama didn't and has never wanted to make another SH title.
His passions exist far outside the realm of SH, especially so by this point. I think anyone jerking him off as well should actually try playing his games, so they can quickly realize why none of them were ever successful.

>>717774976
We are dealing with zoomers that only watched jewtubers video games essays about Silent Hill, not actual players who was around Homecoming or that piece of trash Shattered memories when they came out

>>717779242
Siren games were neat as hell despite a bit of jank. He was trying to push the formula forward while SH 2-3 were rather stagnant. Toyama + budget + polish = good game.

>>717779383
>Toyama + budget + polish = good game.
The idea that budget would make a Toyama game less jank or innately unfun for the average person shows you don't really play them.
SIREN DID have a big budget. So did the Gravity Rush games. Nobody bought them.
His best game, Slitterhead, was made with basically no budget at all by contrast.

>>717758580 (OP)
maybe the enemy didn't react to being hit because the woman swinging the pipe clearly missed the enemy twice?

>>717779495
His best is SH1 and which is also the best SH in general

>>717758580 (OP)
>Why the fake outrage over this?
Just because something's stupid doesn't mean it's fake.

>>717758580 (OP)
Not even going to bother pirating it, I'll wait for bloober to release another remake. I can't believe we're nearing the end of the year and we've had exactly one good game (Oblivion)

Eileen shaving

>>717779795
SH1 is not his best actually.
Still great, but every work after SH1 is far more ambitious and interesting than what he was attempting there. SH1's narrative is primarily focused on a handful of interesting ideas, like
>Loss of a loved one
>Cults and abuse of women within them (big issue in Japan at the time and to this day)
>Power structures and corruption
And all the ideas are handled great, they're all integrated well, but he just does more things better in later games.
Slitterhead is just his best work because it shows how much he's evolved, where a game can essentially completely lack voice acting or the intense amounts of detail and openness all his prior games had, but the writing and how that interacts with the gameplay carry it forward to an absurd degree.

>>717758580 (OP)
>dark souls combat in silent hill
yeah... it's real weird that people are complaining.....

>>717758580 (OP)
>which many action games do
You just said why this looks shit without even realizing it. Silent Hill is supposed to be a survival horror series not a fucking action game. The game looks decent outside of this really shitty unfitting combat. I am not sure why they don't just go back to the combat from SH 1-4. That would work perfectly fine for these games even today. I don't want to be juking like a fucking boxer in a boxing match or rolling like its dark souls.

>>717758874
ew wtf is that thing? belongs into dead by daylight as an enemy

>>717758580 (OP)
Enemies don't react to getting hit at all.
It's going to be shit

>>717758580 (OP)
everyone is babbling about the combat but this shit isnt silent hill. this undermines everything about the game for me desu

>>717758580 (OP)
Are you new here? retards here do not play video games.