oleds burn in like a motherfucker, especially with static images like in ui elements. bright rooms? fuck you, they top out at like 500 nits. ips panels have better color accuracy and way less input lag. oleds are for fucking cinephiles, not gamers, you fucking idiot.

>>717792259 (OP)
nobody forced you to stare at the gris girl for 6 months straight

>>717792259 (OP)
It's just modern day plasma KEK

>>717792259 (OP)
Almost got it, thank you anon for your sacrifice, gonna buy mini led

Quit leaving your shit on while you’re not using it

7500 hours of screen on time on my LG C2 used as a PC monitor and no signs of burn in to speak of. Thats not even your pic OP so how about you shut the hell up

>>717792451
My 2009 plasma doesn't have burn it because I'm not a retard like op

>>717792897
>My 2009 plasma
poorfag

>>717792259 (OP)
i have a 6 year old oled that's completely fine
you're a faggot

>>717792259 (OP)
>discord tranny
>indie gooner
>retarded
many such cases

>>717792920
Why replace something that still works and have better image quality than most shit today?

>>717792259 (OP)
We did it reddit, we sucked another one!

Yes. It's an absolute retarded tech if you're using with static content e.g. a computer monitor
looks pretty good for movies and tv shows tho

>>717792259 (OP)
They do? Been using an oled for almost 5 years and I don't see anything. Upgraded all my monitors/tvs to it. Just don't be retarded and hide the taskbar and icons if you are using it for pc primarily. That's it.

>>717792897
plasma burn in isn't anything like oled burn in
with plasma you can avoid burn in 100% by just not displaying the exact same image for several hours in a row
oled burn-in will happen regardless because no matter how much you let your monitor rest in-between

500 nits is bright as hell. 120 is good in a dimly lit room.

>>717793140
I would argue newer OLED's do not even have this problem due to Pixel Switching and also because even if you are using your desktop as long as you play games or watch movies every now and then it should prevent the issue.

>>717792259 (OP)
>oleds are for fucking cinephiles, not gamers
well yeah
who the fuck told you otherwise?

>>717793140
>>717793270
I have like thousand images for background and they change every minute

>>717793270
Probably true. I'm just careful. For my TV I don't do anything special. My oldest TV has almost 10k hours lol no burn in to speak of

>>717793270
>newer OLED's do not even have this problem
I watch mostly letterbox stuff on my 2024 OLED tv and I can already tell the difference in brightness between the center and top and bottom of the screen
stop lying to people about oled

Imagine being so inept that you don't know how to setup a screensaver

Don't deviate from these three.
Also, the blacks on oled suck, last time I checked at least.

>>717793357
he's right though, new oled monitors with tech like pixel shift and pixel clean are fine and even offer burn in warranty for a few years.

there's real issues with oled, notably VRR flicker and piss shit hdr support in gaming. burn in is not one of those issues any more

>>717793676
hdr support for gaming is not good on any display to be fair

>>717792259 (OP)
what's that japenis site

>>717793732
yeah true but I can't remember any non-oled with proper hdr support being marketed towards gamers. these new ones are actually good and some have dolby vision support too. its great if you run a streaming box like apple tv/etc on a 2nd input

drives me nuts that most streaming services still won't output 4k if you're running it in a web browser.

>>717792771
must be nice living in a fucking fantasy world. burn in is a ticking time bomb, mark my fucking words. and nice try with the "not my pic" bullshit. you're just as delusional as the rest of them. ips is where it's at, always has been, always will be.

>>717792994
YOU JUST GOTTA CONSOOOOM ALL RIGHT???

>>717792771
why would mario tell you to wash your foreskin when you can just cut it off

OLED is only a problem if you're a retard who keeps the monitor brightness at 100%

>>717794146
why are you so mad about oled? clearly there are people here who are using oled telling you that you're wrong. you're using an ips and freaking out about old info, it's silly

>>717793745
Bic camera ビクカメラ

>>717794469
arigatou

>>717794394
fucking hell, you're dense. oleds are shit for gaming, always have been. burn in is a fucking nightmare. ips is superior in every fucking way. you're just another fucking sheep buying into the hype.

>>717794761
>very confidently wrong
>"you're a sheep!"
>uses ips in 2025

>>717794761
>oleds are shit for gaming

>>717792259 (OP)
I feel sorry for you that you bought an OLED television that didn't have an anti-burn in feature. I know it sucks, but not all OLED TVs are like that. I have an LG C1 that works great and has anti-burn in.

didn't they solve burn in with the pixel refresh thing

>>717793676
What do these things even do? As far as I understand, OLED burn-in WILL occur, but modern displays are built with very high brightness margins which essentially allows them to compensate for a few years by nudging up the driven power to a pixel when it dims.
I understand that MiniLEDs will only "burn in" if they were made with defective LED backlights (like those shitty streetlights that turn violet).

>>717795439
>pixel refresh thing
more like pixel wishful thinking. they can try to polish a turd all they want, but oleds are still shit. ips is still king. burn in is still a fucking issue, even with their bullshit "solutions".

>>717792771
>no signs of burn in
but there is burn in, you're just too fucking dumb to see it

>>717795474
one feature is just cyclical shifting of pixels for extended periods of time to combat static elements like task bar, desktop icons, etc. the other is just something you run on occasion to combat image retention (IE stuck pixels). Its basically the same as those websites that flash a bunch of colors for stuck pixels if you've ever seen that before.

retention's not that uncommon on oled, I've had it happen once or twice. it looks the same as burn in, but its not permanent and once you run a cycle it'll go away. true permanent burn in is extremely rare on new oleds these days, mostly reserved for boomers who leave a news station or sports with banners/logos on 24/7/365

>>717792259 (OP)
5/10 bait. Will get a few.

>>717793650
Its funny how 10 years ago 1000:1 contrast was perfectly fine and accepted in all top models. Now reviewers like RTings claim its a major flaw in the panel.

>>717796108
well yeah, nobody ever complained about tvs being black & white until we had easily available options. until recently, oled was not common or affordable at all

Yea, I started getting light burn-in on my phone after about 6 years, could not imagine buying OLED for my monitor.

>>717796246
its made monitor shopping for non-oled into a total shitshow. 1000:1 is worse than infinity:1, so therefore a good $500 IPS screen that's capable of many purposes and sporting high longevity is a 6/10 budget option

>>717796108
Lmao no

>>717795857
>retention's not that uncommon on oled, I've had it happen once or twice. it looks the same as burn in, but its not permanent and once you run a cycle it'll go away
Yeah my Samsung LCD tablet experiences this whenever I draw and have a white canvas. It's ugly but I'm not worried about it too much. Though I wasn't aware that OLED could experience it.

>>717792259 (OP)
Just get a screensaver

>>717792259 (OP)
Wait a minute.
Enhance that Discord window.

>>717792728
no.
Having to wake your screen up by jiggling your mouse, wait a split second for it to turn on, and then take a split second to see where your mouse is is way too annoying for the slight improvement in image quality.

>>717793359
>>717796986
who the fuck uses screensavers anymore?

MSI 271QRX OLED 360hz 1440p going on 3 years with no burn in at all.

>>717792259 (OP)
how the fuck does this even happen do you just have that shit open for weeks at a time or are some OLEDs particularly shitty

>>717797373
It is literally what it is for. It SAVES your screen.
They were originally to prevent burn in on CRTs.

>>717795814
There isn't, because the refreshes LG does intentionally wears out other pixels to keep everything on the same level of wear.

This does however permanently reduce brightness over time to get around the burn in.

>>717792259 (OP)
never had burn-in issues on my OLED but I do get image retention on my IPS panel that i use for internet/not gaming stuff

Reminder that OP is a complete faggot that takes shit from reddit from 2 years ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/132k12r/had_the_new_asus_pg27aqdm_for_a_day_already/

>there are butt hurt morons who are defending AMOLED/OLED trash that are susceptible to getting burn-in issues eventually!
And best of all, they do it for free!

>>717799496
>image retention
at least that usually goes away

>>717792259 (OP)
I've had an oled for 3 years now with 0 burn in.
All you have to do is set it to turn on a black screen saver after 5 minutes and never think about it again.

>>717792573
minileds are kino, they match OLED for like 95% of content and have none of the cope
Maybe if you want to stare at starfields in a pitchblack room all day, yeah OLED would be the best thing ever.

>>717795439
That's just an attempt to catch the rest of the screen up in how burnt in it the worst parts are. The main effect is just lowering the screen's max brightness.

OLEDfags wouldn't dare watch this video honestly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hASLTT4HwBc

>>717792994
I replaced my plasma when I tried playing rdr1 on it and the minimap was just a yellow circle.
the low definition plasma couldnt display the lines in it.
>>717794353
wow she became even more fuckable
who could have guessed

>>717797373
Well if you don't wanna burn your OLEDs then they're back in fashion, baby

>>717792994
lmfao fucking retard

>>717792259 (OP)
I work on my OLED and just use low brightness, 0 burn in after 3 years.

>>717799678
That's even worse, they make it sound like the panel it so shit that it gets severe temporary image retention if it gets too bright straight out of the box
what an absolute shitshow of a technology

>DUDE just turn the brightness down all the way on your 1000+ dollar monitor that you have to use in pitch darkness
Always lol at the OLED user cope. Its always been gimmicky shit. Looks good for a while, then you inevitably get burn in. The newer ones try to hide it by burning in the entire monitor little by little (lmao). Funny enough it does work on the troglodytes, even here itt you hear people talking about how they don't see burn in after thousands of hours, as they use their constantly dimming screen.

grissister...

>>717799710
Only the first generation models had this issue which was much more prevalent. 2nd and 3rd generations have fixed the issue where it's not as huge anymore. It's almost like technology evolves each generation and it does not regress. If it did then OLED would die on the spot.

>>717801871
It's not fixed. Its just masked. They simply burn your entire screen little by little calling it "pixel refresh". Thankfully for monitor makers, consoomoids are tkk stupid to tell. Its like shoving trash into your closet.

>>717792573
>miniled
hope you like light mode anon

>>717802447
turn the lights on like a normal person and you can't even notice it

>>717792771
>11762 hours
No burn in to speak of either.

>>717792771
>>717802598
Based, same.

>>717802483
keep coping mini led retard
mini led isnt there yet, and in b4 you retards recommend "turn off local dimming"

why are oled threads always just poorfag cope?

OLED is a meme

mini led is the correct answer now.

>he fell for the asus meme
classic
t. 4 years on LG OLED C1 blasting HDR 24/7 with 0 burn in yet

>>717802447
>>717802790
eh, for the price its amazing for what it is
Sonys miniled models are pure sex

>>717802790
What is it with OLEDfags and their insistence on using black screens to compare image quality? Afraid you'll burn the pixels out? If I want pure blacks I'll just turn my screen off. For actual content like games and movies, MiniLED beats the snot out of OLED for HDR content that involves anything other than small lights on a black field. Considering most movies and games are going to have some illumination, only a small amount of content actually looks better on my OLED.
OLED is better than MiniLED as far as pixel response times, and those can allow displays to get up to 480Hz (and higher if we literally weren't maxing out the bandwidth of HDMI's highest tier spec)

>>717802447
This images never look like that in real life, cameras always capture extra light

>>717792259 (OP)
If they don't burn in it's because the OLED constantly dims the screen if it detects static pixels. I'd not buy OLED for gaming due to GUI elements.

>>717807245
that usually happens automatically when you turn the monitor off

>>717807606
I bought OLED for the perfect HDR and perfect motion at 240hz yes

>>717792259 (OP)
Unless you're buying chinkshit, burn-in is almost a non-issue anymore due to heavy firmware level mitigations unless you are actively trying to get burn-in.

>>717807606
I need true blacks for Thief FM's. It's OLED or CRT.

>>717807245
>enable automatic pixel refresh when monitor is off
>never worry about it again
wow

>>717809123
Unless you are on your computer all day Sunday like I was
Shit technology

>>717792771
>7500
That's barely a year.

>>717802669
>12000
That's not even 2 years.

My 43" IPS monitor has lasted 4 years so far at 16 hours of use a day. If I had bought an OLED, I would've already needed another screen, or I would've been forced to completely change my browsing habits to avoid burning in a line down the middle of my screen, because I do internet browsing with 2 side by side windows most of the time.

>>717809315
>That's not even 2 years.
That is correct, I normally turn it off when I sleep.

>I would've already needed another screen, or I would've been forced to completely change my browsing habits to avoid burning
I don't think it would. Maybe it depends on your brightness levels. I split windows constantly and I see no signs of burn in whatsoever.

>>717793650
>TFW I fell for the response time meme
I should've gone for anything except TN

>>717792259 (OP)
Poorfag thread. Enjoy your shitglow ips.

>>717792259 (OP)
I thought we solved these problems decades ago, but here we are. Humanity is fucked.

>>717792259 (OP)
I love how retards don't understand that OLED burn in is cumulative and think if they take breaks or shift windows it won't affect them. I also love how they have no concept of timeframe and think just because their monitor is not screwed after the first year that means they are safe.

>>717792897
My 2011 panasonic plasma is so good it's unreal.
If it dies i'm literally going to find another one secondhand coz it shits all over modern LCD/OLED.

whats a good 1440p monitor? no oled memes i keep my monitor on for like 16hrs a day, no va memes i dont want smearing, no ips memes i dont want glow

>>717810007
These days all their monitors have wear levelling built in, so when you turn them off they invert burn-in the rest of the display to try and make the whole panel die as evenly as possible.

Because it's slow, they don't even notice the picture getting worse, day by day.

bump

>>717802790
i got a miniled tv because it was the most affordable 4k 144hz tv i could get and i dont really get the miniled gimmick
for example horror content is still bright as fuck because of the limited dimming spots
what good is the extra darkness for

>>717810268
>hey, jimmy! gimme a pizza with nuthin

>>717814658
calibrate it properly
horror content as in a movie?

>>717792771
My CX still has zero burn in after 5 years and it was on 16 hours a day during covid.

Now I still wouldnt play 500 hours of mmo's on it(I use a high end ips monitor for that reason) but for 99% of use cases, you're fine

just press the degauss button dummy

>>717802790
>set brightness to maximum and/or turn HDR/LD on in windows despite you shouldn't
>LOOK AT THIS!1!1
This is why oled users are funny, to promote oled they post the ONLY case where oled can be used - pitch black room and then they create FAKE situation for miniled to pretend that minileds suck

you poorfags are going to shit yourselves when liquid screens drop next year

I've long been debating whether to get an OLED laptop or not. On the one hand, better screen, but on the other, I've heard glare can be a problem.

>>717814658
>limited dimming spots
Well there's your problem, you bought a shit budget brand TV

>>717814843
Put your money where your mouth is and take a video of this playing on your CX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hASLTT4HwBc

>>717792259 (OP)
I'll never buy an OLED. The TV in my room is over 15 years old and I will not replace it until it's broken. The TV in our living room is an OLED and you can see overlays from breakfast TV and shopping channels my mom watches. It sucks and none of the TV's functions that supposedly prevent this work.

>>717792259 (OP)
You buy a new one every year. It's really not a big deal.

I fell for the OLED meme and I regret it.

Nobody needs - or can actually see more than 800:1, 80% srgb or 150 nits.

>>717810069
Yeah my two pannys haven't skipped a beat in 15 years. Of course that's why they no longer manufacture them, just like CRTs. Can't have you owning electronics that last more than a few years !

LG C2 since 2022, monitor on around 14-16 hours every day
zero burn in

Who the fuck cares about burn-in. Their newest tech has probably brought it up to 5 years or more of usage, maybe more if you give a shit about taking care of your screen, and then I'll just buy a new one because I'm not poor.

oled is cool and all but the value isn't there yet. still overly expensive when you can get chinese lcd tv's with black levels just as good for like 30% of the price.

> black levels just as good

>>717792259 (OP)
We invented this thing called blinds, they're pretty useful for not having to sit in a bright ass room all day.

>>717818728
objective statistical testing proves it

>>717818837
Then you will have no problem providing a source for such a claim then.

>>717818883
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/hisense/u8-u8n

>>717796108
1000:1 has never been accepted by anyone except complete retards who've never seen more than 1000:1, in fact most IPS panels have somewhere around 500-700:1 so you're not even getting that, VAs typically have 3000:1 or better but it's still not perfect, OLEDs completely mog all of these.

>>717818890
That doesn't say the black levels are just as good though.

>>717819026
> the TV's contrast approaches OLED territory. Blacks are extremely deep, and they stay that way when bright highlights are also on screen.

and that's not even the latest model. the latest model literally has OLED blacks

>Its native contrast is impressive, but with local dimming set to 'High', the TV displays blacks that are similar to the inky blacks you get on OLEDs. Furthermore, those blacks stay very deep when bright highlights are also on the screen.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/hisense/u8qg

The only thing holding OLED back is the price, it's all poorfags spreading FUD about them because they're still sitting here using their AOC24g2 they got for $100 6 years ago.

>>717819227
There is nothing wrong with that screen.

>>717819276
There absolutely is, it's complete shit, extremely visible IPS glow, terrible contrast, basically unusable for anyone who knows better.

>>717819321
says the oled shill

>>717819227
These are the same poorfags who cry when there 10 year old gpu can't play the newest games anymore.

>>717819227
the fact people even need to have a discussion on whether their $2000 tv has broken itself yet or not says enough about how bad the value is.

>>717819452
A little burnin is not broken stop being dramatic

>>717792259 (OP)
nice poor cope. I use mine 12+ hours every day going on 4 years now. even play fps daily so several thousand hours with a crosshair on my screen and I have zero burn in.

>>717819350
Are you telling me if you could get OLED with the same size, refresh rate and resolution for the same price you would still choose IPS?

>>717819384
Go ask emulator devs what they think of laptop users. You'll either get punched or said dev will pull out a bottle of vodka and chug it.

>wtf this emu IS SHIT YOU SHOULD FUCKING KILL YOURSELF
>THE PS2 IS 20 YEARS OLD, HOW COME MY 10 YEAR OLD LAPTOP CAN'T EMULATE IT
>FUCKING USELESS HACK DEVS, DEMANDING AVX IS JUST LAZINESS

>>717819531
Yes, I like using a taskbar

>>717792259 (OP)
>logga in
Did Mario invent your language?

>>717819568
Why? I don't even use a taskbar on my VA monitor, waste of space when you can hide it and just have it pop up when you move your mouse there.

>>717819531
Anyone who is smart will. Oled is inherently a flawed, borderline broken technology only suitable for phones which has on times measured in minutes before the screen goes to sleep.

>>717819502
Would you say it's a feature?

>>717819617
If you are smart you won't get visible burn-in for 10 years and by then you'd be looking to upgrade anyway.

>>717819613
I've never been comfortable with that, as it covers up the bottom of your maximized window.
>try to click text entry field in mIRC
>launched PCSX2 instead

>>717819712
stop being fat

anyone smart has already invested in VA/mini-led over old and shit by modern standards IPS, and overpriced with planned obsolescence OLED. it's not perfect but it's by far the best middle ground.

>>717819617
my last 2 phones had amoled displays and both got the keyboard and the top status bar burnt in. i can't really see it in normal usage but if there's a white image on screen it's definitely visible.

luv me oled
luv me hdr
luv me motion clarity
luv me virtual japan
'ate VA

simple as

>>717819531
Yes. The negatives of having to throw your monitor away every few years are too much, and we're already at the limit in terms of diminishing returns. Even when I upgrade to 8k, I'm still going to be playing all my games at 4-6k max.

I want a monitor that'll last 20 years, because at the current rate of progress, that's how long I expect my current 4k monitor to last. I've already had it for 4, in 10-15 years 8k might be viable and cheap enough to justify building a new desk and moving shit around to fit it in my room. More likely, this monitor will last me 30+ years, given how hard progress has slowed in the past 20, and the big selling points of top end GPUs now are "we can generate fake frames for you", they've entirely given up on rendering in real time.

>>717820198
>Even when I upgrade to 8k
Problem is people can't really see the benefits of 8k and when you do you have to sit extremely close to the screen.

>https://www.techhive.com/article/578376/8k-vs-4k-tvs-most-consumers-cannot-tell-the-difference.html

>>717820198
OLEDs last more than a few years though, not sure where you're getting this from.

>>717820283
I'm talking about real 8k, not retards buying tiny screens. As 4k starts at 40", 8k starts at 80". And that's for a desk, with the monitor a couple of feet away.

It requires a custom desk to maximise FOV, because what is currently on the market wouldn't work well at these sizes. You need to have the TV nearer the ground, and your keyboard/mouse on a plinth desk in front of you. Otherwise the top of your monitor requires you to strain your neck up.

I'd love 8k, it's just that nobody makes it for sane prices, and no cards can run anything on it. 4k is too small, I want to have 50 windows open in my peripheral vision so I don't have to use a taskbar like a nigger anymore.

>>717820314
They don't when used for real tasks. As TVs, sure, you might be able to get a few years out of them with mild use and lots of varied content. Your biggest issue will be cinema letterboxing vs 16:9 content, or watching TV channels with logos.

>>717802790
this us asus pg32uqx, the current best miniled is some benq thats 1.1k
the problem with miniled isnt the tech but the price, you can always pack more dimming zones/LEDs in but you get fucked in price. apples was suppsoed to release a 10k led mini le dmonitor but afaik it got canned.
>>717815150
>lights on
>denies horrible blooming a 2k monitor shows
actual retard

>>717820530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2kPsKyF5bQ
this is $800 monitor, you'd have to try really hard to get burn in early in the life of modern OLEDs

Dark modes whenever possible, low brightness (just close the curtains nigga you don't need to be sitting in a sunlit room), let the screen go to sleep after 5 mins afk, you won't get burn in.
How you get burn in is using light mode on max brightness.

>>717821193
>this is $800 monitor
Yeah and for how easily it has burned in i'd expect it to be priced at $350 tops.

>>717821249
I NEED 400 nits for SDR content.

>>717792980
You forgot the worst one: Swede

>>717821250
>easy
>lets turn off every protection feature
i mean yeah? like i said you'd have to be trying hard or doing it on purpose.
this isnt me saying burn-in won't happen, but as long as you use the protection software of the modern oleds, you wont be getting this kind of burn in any time soon, dont even have to hide task bar

>>717794146
my Philips OLED TV is from 2020 (only watching netflix, crunchyroll, etc. and gaming).

No signs of burn in (out). I test it every few month.

>>717821193
>skip to the end
>I currently believe an OLED will be okay for productivity work for 2-3 years
So... exactly what I said? I don't want to buy a new fucking screen every 3 years, retard. I don't want to buy one every FIVE years, seven would be intolerable, 10 would be the absolute bare minimum life expectancy I would tolerate if the picture was fantastic and it looked great for 9 out of 10 of those years.

>>717821603
ok but why would you buy an expensive fancy monitor to look at spreadsheets all day?
oleds are meant to look and feel amazing in games, that's the whole point

>>717821603
>10 would be the absolute bare minimum
literally no one does this unless you're some autistic fuck with a thinkpad you got at ebay aand unironically use 8gb ram

>>717821723
>ok but why would you buy an expensive fancy monitor to look at spreadsheets all day?
Because I look at spreadsheets all day? Why would I buy a monitor I can only use for a couple of hours because it has a built in lifespan?

>>717821870
My old 1080p monitor lasted me 15 years. Sure, I got a secondary (and a tertiary) at some point, but there's no reason to even do that with 4k. It'd be nice if monitors advanced, but they barely have. It's a very safe bet that my current monitor will last at least a decade, probably longer.

>>717822039
so you go on /v/ to argue that oleds are shit because you don't play games and all you do is wageslave on your monitor
good posts

>>717821870
Fuck you.

Signed,
/g/

I just bought a house and want to have a nice movie watching set up. The thing is, I’ve never bought a TV and haven’t owned one since my parents’ living room tube TV many years ago. What should I look for in a television? Do I need a fancy OLED (youtube tells me I do)? I’m only interested in watching movies, I don’t watch regular TV or sports and I don’t own any video game consoles. How big is too big? I will be sitting 10 feet away.
Also, what’s the recommended way to give my TV access to all the sweet MKVs I have on my PC?

>>717822156
I do play games, I just want a monitor that lets me play games when I want, instead of requiring me to baby it.

If it lasted a decade, sure, maybe I could live with it.

>>717822345
>I will be sitting 10 feet away.
Sit closer. 4k is a meme for the living room, and you'd need one about 120" to get the full benefit anyway. Get a cheap 40" 1080p display and use plex.

>>717822039
>My old 1080p monitor lasted me 15 years
my work monitors are both 7yo, still going strong
i bought my home keyboard in 2012 (7G), one keycap broke so i got a replacement, that's it
power drill from 2010s
coffee mill from the 80s
headphones from 2010s
some camera lenses from the 60s/70s
and so on so forth. if something is built to last 2-3 years then it's trash, simple as. if you buy such products from such companies, then you're an imbecile

>>717822504
>Get a cheap 40" 1080p display and use plex.
don't listen to this anon
get a cheap 4k 55-65, that's it. prete much nobody is producing 1080p anymore, and cheap 4k are not much more expensive, you're saving like a 100 dollars or some shit.
also get one on a sale, no point in overpaying, just make sure to follow the trends for some time
and don't trust what corpo paid cunts on youtube say, as well as any review sites

>>717822504
>get 1080p tiny screen for the living room
Don't understand where the forced /v/ tightwad shit comes from. I guess third worlders want to impose their life style on everyone else

As someone with an OLED laptop, OLED phone,Tablet and OLED tv. Do NOT get an OLED monitor. A monitor is something that will be on for 12 hours a day for most of /v/ with static taskbar and address bar. My OLED tv had over 20k hours on it with no burn in. But i know I would get burn in on a monitor

>>717792259 (OP)
ah fuck my monitor just having a horrible burn in started two days ago, will those burn in fixing video work?

>>717792771
>my LG C2
The anons who shilled this TV a couple of years ago are kings. It was the best purchase I've ever done when it comes to displays.

>>717824908
based discord lurker

>>717792259 (OP)
There is no way it could physically burn in so quickly to make marks you can actually read. How is that even possible. It must be something in the fancy control circuitry doing this, some kind of miscalibration of the wear leveling maybe.

>>717825546
>actual coping

>>717818940
I bought a dell G3223Q last year and the contrast is fine. Glow isn't noticable even with the lights off. OLED fags are such fucking liars.

>>717792259 (OP)
>2023
yeah the burnin hasnt gotten better since then at all, OP, you disingenuous faggot. and how about not leaving your screen afk on the same thing for hours? again, you are retarded.

>>717792259 (OP)
Surely this image is from reddit but this has to be fake. How do you get the steam store page burned with readable text? It would need months with the same exact image and position and it would burn less than that

>>717826037
>only use it for an hour at a time
>only use dark themes
>hide your taskbar
>set brights to 80 nits
>never use HDR
Beyond that oled is perfect!

>>717792573
This faggot fell for a 4chan fake post instead of searching burn in tests in YouTube

wake me up when microLED becomes a viable purchase

>>717792451

>>717792771
>monitors need internal storage now

>>717809315
>16 hours a day
Man, seriously, touch grass, get hit by sunlight, get up from your chair before your blood clots

>>717826273
>anon enters eternal slumber

>>717809315
I used an OLED screen for 6 years with 16 to 8 hours of daily use every day and it only had some minor image retention at the start when I had a window open every day at the exact same place for a month, when I stopped that it went away in a few days and it never returned. Meanwhile you've been experiencing inferior screen quality for no good reason other than new thing bad.

>>717826413
No.

>>717826565
>16 to 8 hours of daily use
So that's... 2-3 years of regular use. Don't worry, you'll need a new one soon.

I'm thinking about buying an OLED monitor, but it will be turned off while I work on the IPS monitor. When I get tired of working and want to play something, then I'll use the OLED.
IPS is unacceptable for dark colors. Software such as "Stellarium" is literally impossible to use on IPS panels, it's even funny, you open the program and can't see a damn shit.

>>717826565
>it went away in a few days and it never returned.
That's because the other pixels around it burned out too, and the whole screen went bad evenly, LOL.

>I have to replace a $1k screen in 6 years reeee
oh the pain

>>717827835
What would you rather have right now, a new monitor, or a 5090? Yes, yes, you can afford both, 1k is nothing to you, you wipe your ass with it, etc.

>>717827892
congrats you bought not only one of the worst tv's for tv watching but THE worst OLED for gaming

>>717827835
Why would I do that when I can get a 500 dollar IPS monitor that will last for a decade or more?

>>717829209
Just keep eating big macs, they are better value than a good steak.

>>717829283
The advantages of OLED are marginal and your analogy ignores the difference in product lifespan.

>>717829369
Well the big mac has so many preservatives in it it will remain edible for longer than a steak that is for sure.

>>717792771
>lg c2
another retard memed into buying this instead of monitor. lol

>>717829443
A piece of equipment wearing out slower does not have the same negative consequences food preservatives can have. Not that what you're suggesting is actually true, why would mcdonalds bother to put preservatives into a product that's sold and consumed the day it's prepared?

>OLED
+deep blacks
+good motion clarity
-expensive
-kills itself over time due to organic element degredation
-burn in
-inherent brightness limitations (ABL) because of circuitry heat tolerance
-uses more power than competing LCD's
-inherent VRR stutter

>Mini-LED
+deep blacks
+extremely bright
+cheap
+no burn in issues
+will last forever assuming no faults (doesn't degrade like OLED)
+wider ranges of size and price from numerous brands (OLED panels are made by only 2 brands)
-smearing might be a thing at lower framerates

>>717829558
Monitor wasn't an option, I have ascended to a higher plane of existence

>>717829986
You forgot the ghosting and blooming on minileds. Funny that.

>>717830458
ghosting is smearing. modern mini-led's don't have noticeable blooming anymore.

>>717830678
The ghosting happens not just at low framerates.

>>717830738
ghosting exclusively happens at lower framerates.

>>717829986
you forgot to mention that you need to control room brightness with oled, that's pretty huge minus from my perspective

>>717830678
modern oleds don't have noticeable burn-in anymore :^)

>>717830850
yes they do. look at the RTINGS long term tests. they all exhibit burn in or uniformity issues over time. it's literally planned obsolescence.

>>717792259 (OP)
I don't understand why people like OPnare anti shilling, especially with blatantly incorrect information
>IPS have lower input lag
Not even true lmao.

Is there like an IPS consortium that just pays shills to make these anti OLED threads all day or is it really just sour grapes?

>>717830840
yeah i used to have an lg oled. it's designed for a pitch black room which means you don't get what you paid for if you use it in the daytime. the brightness limitations are brutal. granted the newer ones are better at handling this but still nowhere close to the brightness capabilities of lcd.

>>717830808
Mini-LEDs smear and ghost at all framerates. OLEDs have persistence blur which scale with the frame times.

>>717807604
Snoy's FALD screens are garbage of the highest order.
Lowest number of dimming zones.

>>717831465
not any recent one. the voltages are tuned for high refresh rate so the smearing occurs are lower framerates, if it does happen. most tv's dont suffer from that anymore, same for VA monitors. it's been largely eliminated outside of specific situations. oled VRR stutter and judder is inherent to the panel tech and the way it reproduces an image. running extra voltage through it to make the pixels transition faster like lcd doesn't work.

>>717830923
IPS has uniformity issues out of the box

>>717831789
IPS is useless at SDR, HDR, bright content and dark content. it's not in the conversation. i didn't mention IPS.

>Buy oled
>They have "PINKY PROMISE BURN IN IS A THING OF THE PAST"
>Get minor burn in within like 2 months on deep blue screens
>8 months in an it's getting more noticeable on grey screens

i have an oled. bought the oled 1 month ago. i love oled. if my oled burns, i'll buy another oled. love from oled

>>717832480
use pixel refresh, it will destroy all other pixels but that's fine

>>717798681
>reduce brightness
Rtings tests dont show this despite 12kplus hours

>>717792259 (OP)
swedish loss

>>717792728
>uhhh yeah so basically you MUST be aware of technicalities and ONLY use our product like we want to or else it will get fucked up BUT ITS NOT OUR FAULT you cannot simply display what you want

Scam

>>717833335
Worth it for true blacks and contrast

>>717792259 (OP)
gris girl...

As a horror game fan the oled lyfe is the only one for me.

>>717819602

>>717792259 (OP)
oled is shit
i can't even play any emulators on my phone because they burn that ui in
glad i didn't fall for the oled meme when building my pc

my qd oled looks fucking amazing and if it ever gets burn in (it wont) ill just buy another one lmao
god it must suck to be poor!

>>717837543
Bro that magneta color when its off is crazy

>hide your toolbar with auto-hide settings
>shuffle wallpapers
>dont be terminally online discord groomer
>put your computer on sleep when not using

Its really not that hard, fag

>>717837574
>when its off
You look at your screen when it is turned off?

I like my oled for its almost reference level colour accuracy in SDR and punchy HDR.

>>717837837
My monitor is my bitch
Your monitor is your master
We are not the same

>>717838453
you ARE the bitch though, because your oled is going to have burn in and there is nothing you can do to prevent it. your fragile little ego wouldnt even handle the idea that you might need to be careful with what you are doing because that would mean you couldnt do literally whatever you wanted all the time. a literal fucking manchild who will be pissing and shitting his diaper when his screen has burn in and he did nothing to prevent it

Any screen that can't do 400-500 nits for SDR is a complete waste of time.

>>717821870
My current monitor is well over 10 years old. No issues. Looks great.

>>717793650
>the blacks on oled suck
??
The pixels literally turn off and don't emit any light how can it get any blacker than that?

>>717839305
I think he means that weird purple shit when the screen is in a lit room.

>>717832480
>know the technology literally isn't suitable for thing
>buy technology for thing anyway
>do thing
>AAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>717833946
No it fucking is not

>>717792259 (OP)
should have got an LG IPS :)

>>717838656
My oled isn't going to do anything because it doesn't exist. I don't buy uppity products that shit themselves if you don't tiptoe around their design flaws.

IPS is best, contrast around 1000:1 is fine even in a dark room, they have the best colors and good brightness in general.

>>717840735
Indeed. And at half the cost of an oled and with functionally infinite lifespan.

>>717840556
Keep coping lmao, ips was ALWAYS shit

>>717839549
Who games in a lit room?

How come this doesnt happen with monitors? I leave my shit up for days idling in the pause menu and never had this happen

>>717792259 (OP)
I've had my 48" LG OLED since 2020.

Absolute zero burn-in and I use it 12h+ daily as a main PC and console monitor.
The only thing I don't do is fullscreen the browser like a retard (too big for most content anyway), and place static icons on the 2nd monitor instead. Still watch media and play games full screen with no consideration toward burn-in, although I don't stick to the same game for years on end.

My BenQ IPS did shit the bed however, with a permanent white-yellow ring around it that suffers from image retention, though not bad enough for me to care. It being an IPS instead of OLED makes the image quality so shit and subpar anyway that this legit flaw doesn't detract any more than it not being an OLED already does.

I fail to understand the burn-in meme. As soon as you buy any non-OLED your monitor is extremely flawed even if it was manufactured perfectly (It won't be, especially inconsistent backlighting in the usual price bracket, something to be expected and can't be traded for in most cases). It looks so shit by comparison.
It's like if all humans had myopia, and you are the select few spouting the downsides of using glasses. How they scratch or even break, etc. While looking at the world at 10% gaussian blur, unnaware of their benefit.

How come this doesnt happen with monitors? I leave my shit up for days idling in the pause menu and never had this happen

>>717814658
>144hz tv
>30/60 fps content all looking like shit

>>717792771
LG C3 here, best TV I've ever owned

why are there always contrarians on here anti-everything and pro everything that's worse than something else? don't people get tired of playing that role?

>>717792259 (OP)
Why are you Swedish?

>>717841241
IPS is the best currently available monitor technology

>>717842974
People who overpaid for a monitor that kills itself have sunk cost fallacy

>>717843239
you're the retard I'm talking about faggot

>>717843264
I know, I subverted your retarded comparison. Promoting OLED is the equivalent of defending starfield.

>>717843264
>>717843557
Excuse me, Star Citizen.

I actually avoided OLED for the longest time due to threads like this, but after having finally decided to try an OLED monitor on a whim I can safely say I'm never fucking touching IPS, VA, or TN panels again. I'd rather deal with the potential for minor burn-in after 1-2 years of use than deal with backlight bleeding, IPS glow, shit pixel response times, abysmal contrast ratios, black smearing - the list really just kind of goes on.

My last monitor was a 32inch 4K IPS, and this new one is a 27inch 1440p QD-OLED, and honestly this one looks much crisper to my eye despite the much lower pixel density (and is a lot faster to boot). Also glad to not have to deal with DPI scaling once again.

Not to say that OLED is perfect by any means (Tandem OLED will probably be a big jump whenever that shit finally starts coming out), but I haven't really had any issues yet. I usually upgrade monitors every year or two anyway as the technology improves, so even if this thing lasts 'only' two years before burn-in becomes a major concern that's still pretty good for me. Though honestly I'm not as worried about OLED longevity as I used to be.

>>717793269
Anything less than 2000 is shit

Do any of you anons have specific monitors to recommend? Preferably 1440.

are sony oleds not known for burn-in? i use my desktop with part the screen always the same and so far nothing noticed when i watch media or play games. i remember hearing burn-in was terrible on plasmas and i did the same on one for 6-7 years and no burn-in, either.

>>717846631
You will get conflicting opinions here. Do your own research.

>>717842957
Based LGchad. The C3 fixes basically every nitpick I had with the CX - better processing, brighter HDR, slightly improved ABL behavior, and way lower input latency. People crying about burn-in are still stuck in 2019. If you aren’t running CNN 24/7 or leaving white Chrome tabs fullscreen all day, it’ll probably outlive your interest in gaming anyway.

>MUH BLACKS I NEED MUH BLACKS TO BE SO LE DARK AND LE DEEP
The difference between an OLED and an LCD is only noticeable if you're comparing two monitors side-to-side. Even in pitch-black rooms the slightly grayish tone of an LCD is less of an issue than OLED's flickering.

>>717846631
just go on rtings and filter for what you want or look at their recommendations

>>717846631
LG 32GK650F-B if you've got the desk space. 1440p 144hz, affordable, quite low latency

>>717847825
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I NEED TO PAY DOUBLE FOR MY MONITOR SO IT CAN SHOW THE BLACKEST NIGGERS POSSIBLE

>>717810069
Same. My Panasonic was my best screen until I got an OLED monitor. It does that thing that OLED panels do when they display SDR content, that the contrast and clarity is so good that it makes you think it's HDR. The LCD years were a tragedy.

Any opinions on OLED laptops?
I bought a budget laptop 5 years back, fantastic specs for the price but it came at the cost of a really, really shit screen. I knew it was going to be bad, but man is it bad.

I'd love to try an OLED but I've heard bad things about glare. I don't want to sit in a blacked out closet to use it.

All these burn-in fags must be using the 1 or 2 phone models that still use LCDs. People have been using AMOLED & OLED phones since like 2018 and they display nothing but static content at max brightness. You'd think someone would have noticed the burn-in issue sooner, but no, my 5 year old 15 Pro Max is still crystal clear and perfect.

>>717843903
This is literally every single person that tries OLED. I don't know what psychological illness causes people to defend LCDs to the point of making up lies. Microplastics in the balls? Long COVID? Climate happenings in your office chair?

>>717843903

>>717851532
99% of anti-oled shitposting on here is just poorfags coping. the other 1% is schizophrenia

>>717851532
>>717851716
I'm glad you paid double for a product that kills itself for no gain in function. You don't deserve money.

>>717830360
please share wallpapers, o' ye of taste

>>717793218
This anon is actually correct.

OLED 'burn-in' is nothing alike with plasma burn-in. OLED has retention, where the organic pixels if left in a particular excited state for a long enough time will want to keep that state, but that eventually always passes and has nothing to do with OLED 'burn-in' at all.

OLED 'burn-in' is actually, quite simply, wear.
The organic material can only light up a finite amount of time before it's used up.
This means pixels made to light up in bright colors a lot will wear out faster than those that aren't. And means eventually, if the same current is passed to the display, those pixels will light up less during a bright scene than their still-fresh neighbors. And that's how you see 'burned in' images. They're not actually burned in. It's just unequal wear.

Modern OLED panels mask this via 'screen refreshers' which is a neat marketing term that actually does the exact opposite:
It does some bookmarking and arithmetic then induces additional wear on the neighboring pixels in a cluster so they level out with the most worn ones, and then they configure the display to juice up the current being passed to that part of the screen to force it to light up bright again, matching neighboring pixel clusters' brightness so everything looks proper again.

But in reality, it actually increases the overall wear of the screen faster to mask local wear, and eventually those refreshers will no longer be able to compensate because there's only so little organic compound left in the screen and they cannot pump more current in without it literally overheating and leading to molten circuitry or plastic, or burning the organic material. And at that point the local wear shows, and will never go away again.

This is, with 100% certainty, what eventually happens to ALL OLED displays. Period.

Buying OLED monitors is like buying first party controllers.

>>717810305
This. It's basically masking the problem until it can no longer be masked and then shit gets ugly fast.

>>717854184
I've been using the same DS4 for 8 years, and it just works.

>>717853146
How poor you gotta be that $500 is too much to pay so that they very thing you look at the entire time you use your computer looks as good as possible? Every single second you spend looking at an LCD is a moment of your life, wasted, because a day's pay is too much for years of the best image quality.

>>717792259 (OP)
the last 3 phones i owned all had amoled displays, guess what happened to them? fuck oled, that shit is a scam.

>Asux
>probably (((QD oled)))
>total waste of technology due to lack of strobing mode
My C1 is nearing it's 4th year of daily usage and there's still not a single hint of burn in.

>>717800565
Wrong, it doesn't change the brightness, but it does increase the power consumption for the same brightness.

>>717855974
Stop noticing and just consume.

>Plasma anons
Based.

>>717800634
He's right.

>>717855974
Is that an 'eck?

>>717855975
BFI can't work with VRR.
On top of that OLED monitors have low peak full screen brightness for that to work as well.
But I would love to have 240Hz OLED with BFI even if it was dim.

TN or VA for me thank you very much

>>717856128
I used to own a high end plasma TV in the early 2010s and they're fucking garbage in nearly every way. only marginally better than the worst LCD displays

>>717853967
Thankfully the longer compensation pixel refresh should be only running every 1000 or 2000 hours.
that'll take a while for your screen to get fucked up to that level.

>>717802483
>retard take

>>717792259 (OP)
IPS panels have 20x slower response times you retard
OLEDs could display 2500+ FPS
IPS ghost above 160

>>717856502

really? same here. I replaced my old plasma with an OLED because I saw an imperfection on the plasma over time. I've had my OLED replaced 3 times by LG. I often go to my little spare room with the panasonic plasma to watch movies on it. its great quality even with the slight imperfection

>>717807410
Retard

>>717856267
>VRR.
Complete meme, honestly. I literally never use it on any of my monitors.
It's especially a meme on OLEDs that can't deal with VRR without flickering issues anyway.

>low peak full screen brightness
It's plenty enough depending on the strobing method and pulse width. On my C1 I even stack 120hz BFI + rolling scan BFI shaders and I still get enough brightness. I just love the motion clarity and it's still plenty bright.

Honestly what's the point of having a bright picture with variable refresh if you get awful motion blur the second you start looking around in a game?

>>717857198
How is VRR a meme?

>>717854656
By that logic, why aren't you shilling MicroLED?
What's a couple hundred thousand bucks for LITERALLY the best display technology, especially one that won't burn out?

>>717826352
It's a smart tv being used as a monitor. I miss dumb tvs. I turn my tv on and it functions. No fucking updates or jewish ads

>>717792451
What if we ever went back to plasma, we never prefected it, like the same with small tube tech.

Is the odyssey g9 worth it, im still using 1080p leds.
does 2k-4k ruin performance that much.

>>717857393
What's the microled panel with 1 pixel zones? Oh, there's none. LITERALLY not the best display technology, just another LCD cope that will eventually get thrown into the garbage pile of like QLED and VA and pixel overlocking.

>>717858025
>What's the microled panel with 1 pixel zones?
Um, all of them?
>just another LCD cope
They're not LCDs, they're emissive displays just like OLED.
I mean they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, but whats a little price for perfection and quality superior to that of even OLED? You're not poor, are you?

>>717857715
Those giant 32:9 monitors suck. The performance hit is very bad and even worse when you consider that you're not even look at most of the rendered pixels at any moment anyway. It's like setting your driver to render the entire scene off-screen while you play a game. The first gen G9's were awful, a smeary, black crush VA mess. Later ones at least have good panels. Samsung is somehow mega retarded because they make the actual panels but make the dumbest decsions about how to build the monitors the panels go in.

>>717857520
Image if plasma got all the little tweaks that LCD has gotten since 2011. QD layers, BFI, VRR. It'd be way better than LCD. Shit, except for HDR my old plasma still is better than LCDs for regular content.

>>717857518
Same. Android TV is so retarded, just a huge mistake. They're bringing their shitty version of UI and UX to cars now. Fuck Google.

I will not stop using OLED.

>>717858492
I'm looking over a list of monitors right now and smallest dimming zone is 1600 pixels. There's no list for microled because there's none available, lol. You're literally shilling imaginary technology.

>>717792259 (OP)
few tips for people in the thread (that I feel should be common sense, but who knows). have your wallpapers change often and have a good variety of them. i go on the wallpaper board and there's tons of cool ones there. there's a command prompt you can run to have the minimum time down to like 30 or even 10 secs change if you want (default goes down to 1 min I think). toggle automatically hide taskbar and be cautious of apps that have alerts as they can leave them open. for instance, if i leave discord open when i go to eat or something for 30 mins and I get a ping, the taskbar will stay there and that can be awful for burn in. most monitors/TVs have OLED care that you can run while you go take a shit or go eat or whatever. mine takes about 8-10 mins and if you do this regularly and long-term, you won't notice burn in at all. i'm very cautious about burn in and take all these precautions, including some i'm probably forgetting, and haven't experienced burn in on my OLED ultrawide after 2 years of having it.

>>717792259 (OP)
modern oleds dont have this issue, you likely bought a gen1 or gen2 screen, which doing so for absolutely any new panel tech is bound to have problems that you agree to as essentially a beta-tester

>>717858860
fucking lel they were saying this shit about the 2nd gen tvs. hurrr it was only last years oleds that had this problem. the cycle of retardation continues. OF COURSE this years oleds dont have many reports of that yet you fucking mongoloid they were JUST released.

>>717858505
my friend has the oled and says it has held up. think ill stick with my plan of 4 27 inch 1080p monitors on 2 stands and one newer 34 inch monitor maybe in 1440p
>>717858505
we were also close to tube tvs evolving before leds came out and shit on the greatest tube tech ever seen. It was gonna be like miniature tubes or some shit.

>>717858980
you can test the new panels yourself by simulating burn-in and show that they dont have the issues the 2nd gen panels last year did, sorry if that upsets you anon

I think the RTINGS torture test proves that modern OLED does not suffer reasonable burn in
18 months: https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1gw01hf/oled_torture_test_month_18_results_by_rtings/
22 months: https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1k2ywnc/rtings_results_month_22_burnin_results_for_qdoled/
I don't even think these are third gen OLED. These are older second gen OLED

>>717830923
??????

>>717859185
LG have replaced my tv for free burn in is not the problem. the colors fade and skew over time and its a limitation of the tech - no generational improvement can fix it its fundamental wear. but yes having to email these faggots for a replacement every 3 years is upsetting

>>717838656
>>717837837
I absolutely abuse my OLED. Nothing crazy, but I use it like it's a regular IPS panel and it's fine. You are honestly doing too much

>>717859281
>"CNN" burned directly into the panel
I've changed my mind, I'm becoming an OLEDshill. it should be a requirement to have an OLED so we can cost retarded boomers more money and penalize them for unironically watching (((cable news)))

>>717859407
yeah all i mentioned was the burnin, not any other issues

>>717831262
I use my LG C2 in a room that's at ~250 lux and I don't know why you would want a room any brighter than that. I swear most of the people that have an issue are retards that don't know how to configure their room and have the sun blaring directly on their screen.

>>717859587
If the best result ones have only faint lines visible from blasting nothing but CNN for 13k hours at 100% brightness I think they are just fine for normal use

>>717859870
how is that one for gaming

What's the point of getting an oled TV for vidya
They can't do more than 120hz and the details in resolution will be lost with the longer viewing distance they require
An entry level 1440p 240hz oled is just better

>>717858686
Just get a 103 inch MicroLED TV.

>>717860050
Miles better than the shitty Samsung VA I replaced it with.

>>717860229
New LGs go up to 165hz. I'm waiting for the new Tandem panels to hit the C line to think about upgrading but honestly I'm happy with my C2. I don't think I'd ever go the monitor route. You pay more for less.

Is DQHD safe?

>>717860229
idk about tvs but i like my 240hz 4k oled

>tv
>tv
>tv
kill all console niggers

>>717859587
It wouldn't actually do anything to boomers that watch cable news, since this is a torture test ran 24/7 (20/7), not a real usage scenario. They would die before being able to see any effect under testing conditions (grey), and probably would never see any effect before dying of age outside of it
You can look at how the individual monitors and screens out of 100 screens, LCDs, OLEDS, etc, are doing
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results
I have the AW2725DF which is a QD-OLED screen, and as you can see of the AW3423DWF has some banding after two continuous years of use 24/7. I don't think it's actually noticeable yet during actual use, just grey tests, and barely as some minor banding

If you're wondering about other issues I think it's obvious from the uniformity image that such wear isn't a problem, and it's all elementary when you consider a lot of monitors have worse uniformity as their factory result, but the LCDs obviously also suffer in these types of tests, there's been failures, one I know of

>>717860528
I don't even own a console. Smart TVs are subsidized because they throw in a bunch of tracking and ad horseshit in them but if you aren't a retard you can block it with a dns blocker. Also apps like ColorControl are amazing for fine tune controls and I've yet to see a monitor let you do the same things it lets you do.

>>717858686
>he doesn't commission a custom MicroLED monitor for a few million dollars
Stay poor.

>>717854656
500 dollars isn't too much. I paid as much for my 32 inch 4k 144hz IPS. An oled would have cost me 1200 bucks.

Also you do not make 500 bucks a day you fucking liar.

>>717861175
MicroLED monitors don't even exist. They can't get the pixel density down enough to even make them. The smallest screen that's still 4k is still around 80 inches. Even if they end up 10 times cheaper they're still going to just be projector replacements.

>>717861578
Just two more years.

Why suffer from screen burn in when you can just use a screen saver?

>>717792259 (OP)
I bought C3 for media consumption. I love it.
If you've never had CRT and LCDs with burn ins then you are casual.

>>717861972
Why use that gay shit when you could just make it all black

>>717861972
>not pipe dream

>>717861578
The whole point is that the "poor" argument is retarded. Why would I spend $2500 over the course of 10 years for marginally better black rendering when I can instead spend a tenth of that for better HDR performance in actual content + the piece of mind to never have to worry about burn-in?

>>717800572
I do that once a year and use my camera for long exposure and have yet to see anything on my 271qrx or my C2

stop browsing 4chan 24 hours a day and touch some grass

>>717807604
>sony miniled
>96 zones
lol youre trolling
right ?????????????????????????????
Maybe if you meant their bravia top of the line miniled TVs that cost more than any OLED TV then sure you might have a decent point.

>>717830678
>modern minileds dont have noticable blooming anymore
>looks up blooming on any modern model on youtube
>blooming out the ass
even on the top of the line miniled tvs that arent samsung or sony that cost more than any oled tv and they use heavy blooming suppression
>theres no ghosting/smearing
lol hes in denial

>>717792259 (OP)
nigger that is no burning, that's image retention. Just do a pixel refresh.

>>717832480
I always buy everything expecting the worst.
For example, I had a generic arcade stick, then I heard that Sanwa ones are better, so I bought one, and on the SECOND FUCKING DAY I already noticed that one of the buttons was making an annoying noise, as if it were worn out.
People swore to me that they would last for years before they started having problems...
That's why I don't buy OLEDs either. Sanwa buttons for an arcade stick are cheap, an OLED monitor is quite expensive.

>>717792259 (OP)
I have a 42" LG C2 OLED as my PC monitor. I play window mode 2560x1440 on the middle right and have two windows on top of each other like a 2nd vertical screen. It has 120hz, amazing colors and response time and cost me only 600 Euro two years ago. Games sand shows look amazing. Couldn't be happier.

>PC monitor: production IPS
>console TV: 2014 plasma
>vidya AND kino readiness: yes

hey look, so basically i'm just not gonna switch to OLED
haha just not gonna do it. i'm sorry!!! i know i know hahaha grey blacks...
ugh just not gonna use the shitty panel... HAHAHAHAHA

>>717864337
>plasma
>can only use it in a pitch black environment since it caps out at ~100 nits
>also blacks become gray whenever in a lit environment

>>717864529
I never watch/play shit with the lights on

>>717864584
>hes nocturnal

>>717864529
Why would you ever want more than 100nits? I mean, unless you want to destroy your eyes.

My cheap Chinese TV mogs all these OLEDs. With that being said the G5 was on my radar till I found out about the banding issue so fuck that.

>>717865056
>destroy your eyes
>goes outside
>gets 500000000+ nits from teh sun into my eyeballs
>somehow its fine

[causes eternal seething]

>>717865373
How often are you directly looking into the sun you fucking ape?

>>717865830
Into the sun? You mean towards the? Every evening/morning walk/drive.

>>717864337
lost tech, wish I had one.
is it true you have to replace the plasma?

>>717865324
>My cheap Chinese TV mogs all these OLEDs
lol are you also going to tell us you're a woman too?

What types of monitors are good for low brightness? Everything's too fucking bright even on the minimum settings with my current one.

>>717870194
oleds can go down to like 30 nits

>>717825546
My guess is that the dude had no automatic sleep mode set up and forgot to turn the monitor off when going on a 2+ month vacation or something, so it was just that singular static screen the whole time.
Surely it'd have to be either that or an intentional setup to have for the burn in to have recorded specific discord messages or whatever like that.

>>717870194
OLEDs for new. But one reason I've kept this cheap Korean monitor is that it has a one button backlight adjustment and it can go down to like 60 nits when I go to bed. These things were so fucking good for the price 10 years ago since you could even OC them to 120hz when no other IPS could then.

>>717826320
mutt's law

>>717870967
The guy literally has the monitors OSD burnt in in the image, the OSD times out after like a minute or 5 minutes so this has to be shopped or something.

>>717792573
Wait for the golden goose µLED

>>717853798
Wallpaper engine

OLEDs are a hard sell with the budget 1k zone HDR1000 miniled monitors coming out now

>>717839549
That's QD OLEDS with the raised purple blacks in bright rooms

Or the AR coating which makes reflections (from outside the TV) look purple

>>717872719
>miniled monitor
>1k zones
>still cant illuminate something as small as a taskbar icon without blooming or sdr level brightness and any fireflies, fireworks, led lights, light strips in video games bloom out the wazoo and are dimmer than sdr peak brightness.
>and the VA models still have smearing and motion blur

>>717872939
>QD OLEDS with the raised purple blacks in bright rooms
Fake news. Maybe 5 years ago this was true, not today though.

>>717874108
Are you sleeping under a rock or something?
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/odyssey-oled-g81sf-s27fg810s

Even the latest QDOLEDs have the purple hue in a bright room, scroll down to black level raise.

>>717874195
>Odyssey G8
>Manufacture date: 2022

>>717874276
Are you unable to read or something?

This is the OLED G81SF which released this year.

>>717874319
I own a QD-OLED in a room that is always lit unless I'm outside of it.
There is no purple glow unless you shine a flashlight on it.

>>717874425
Take a photo of it with a full black image covering it, with your other display next to it so we can see you're not messing with the exposure to hide it.

>>717874425
Why dont you say which model it is btw?

>>717874535
Did it yesterday.

>>717874614
All QD-OLED panels from the last 12 months are the same panel. Literally all of them.

>>717874890
I didnt ask for a macro shot on your fucking display. I asked for a proper photo you retard dunce cunt fuckface holy shit can you please go into your bath tub and drown yourself you waste of oxygen?

Take the photo from a fucking normal distance you dishonest piece of shit. Also your camera is exposed to the flashlight you absolute monkey brain its not going to show anything.

Move the flashlight so its on the side of the display, we dont need to see the fucking lightbulb reflecting.

Man bought a QDOLED and is suffering from buyers remorse and needs to justify his lack of deep blacks in a lit environment.

If theyre all the same model how come you said its a non issue yet every single reviewer has that problem? Explain anon? You cant because youre a dishonest clueless piece of shit, for all we know youre taking your macro shots of an IPS.

Also you still have your cumstreaks on the display.

>>717875176
You lost LCDtranny.
There is no glow, even in the worst case

>>717875238
>Glow
No ones talking about glow? Are you retarded or something?

>LCD
Im on a C4 you monkeybrain.

https://youtu.be/frSJc_uL0rs?t=303
So apparently you got the only sample in the world without this problem. Interesting why dont you share with us what model it is?

Why are you so scared to take a photo from a normal distance with your lights in the room turned on?

>>717875308
QD-OLED is objectively superior. More colors, more contrast, better uniformity, better saturation, better brightness.

>>717875425
You're a bot right? You are aware that a C4 is an OLED right?

My 271QRX looks like an IPS next to my C4 which is a void. And the HDR is atrocious on the 271QRX since the 10% only hits 450 nits.

>>717875425
>better brightness
Your qdoled monitor hits 400 nits in a real hdr scene (hence hdr400 true black branding) You bought an SDR display.

>>717875563
C4 is an ancient W-OLED that has shit colors and shit brightness (except for pure white)
It also doesn't have a purple tint even in a lit room.

>>717875634
Which is significantly better than every other monitor you can buy without resorting to mini-LED which has blooming.
And you can get 1000 nits peak brightness in dark scenes. Even in bright scenes you can still get brighter regions like car headlights

>>717853967
>>>/g/ is that way fag
we don't deserve quality posts here

>>717792259 (OP)
The real problem with these screens is that they look like shit with gsync turned on. I always hear the OLED bros tell me all about how those deep blacks make LCD look like garbage, but when you see those blacks flickering exactly like this screen then the panel technology immediately loses it's appeal.

>>717875940
Just turn VRR to "automatic".
and who cares about VRR anyway it's a gimmick that makes no difference if you already get high FPS

>>717876036
>and who cares about VRR anyway
I do, and i suspect the reason why VRR sucks on them and VA's right now because the gsync modules stop being put into monitors. To make it easier for poors to afford OLEDs, that was the hurdle for this panel tech to ever be sold at an affordable price.

>>717876242
Why? VRR only matters if you aren't reaching 60fps

>>717875925
Shit colors?
Why do you need more than ~70% of BT2020?
Your shitty QDOLED monitor cant even go high enough in brightness for the BT2020 volume to matter. Unless you like oversaturated and inaccurate SDR colors.

>It also doesn't have a purple tint even in a lit room.
And where did I say this was even a thing on it? You're beyond retarded.

>400 nits is significantly better than any other monitor you can buy without resorting to miniled
Man havent heard of WOLED monitors that hit over 750-800 nits in real scene HDR brightness lmao. You can tell this guy is a retard.
The PG27AQDMG gets 739 nits in a real scene, the "best" QDOLED on the market gets around 450. QDOLEDs are not even close in terms of HDR.

Still waiting for you to post that photo from a normal distance btw.

>You can get 1000 nits in dark scenes
No you cant. They cap out at best around 600 nits even in a dark game like alien isolation. "Even in bright scenes you can get 1k nits in headlights" Are you retarded for real? The brighter the scene the darker the highlights because it cant do BOTH at he same time, hence the REAL SCENE results on rtings. You're fucking mentally retarded.

>>717875940
Except this is a loading screen where the frametimes are like a rollercoaster. If your frametimes are stable the VRR flicker ceease to exist. However on a miniled you'll have vrr flicker no matter what because its independent from the frametime on those. Hence the Q27G3XMNs notorious VRR flicker.

>>717876316
>60 fps
I can tell this is the qdoled retard.

>>717876395
Why do you need more than 640x480@60hz?

>>717876395
>. However on a miniled you'll have vrr flicker no matter what
PG32UQX and i don't ever get VRR flicker. You're referring to VA panels with the example you gave
>If your frametimes are stable the VRR flicker ceease to exist.
Not always easy to mitigate in some scenarios. The fact that the flick happens is just bad image stability/quality and it infuriates me that i see it. There's no way around saying that it sucks and it's a real problem and you just have to force turn off gsync if you don't want the likely scenario to occur.

>>717876739
On an LG TV you can eliminate VRR flicker by lowering "Fine Tune Black Areas" by -3. Strange how monitors dont have this feature.

you lost

>>717876978
Why dont you reply to : >>717876395

>>717877009
see >>717876439
You literally do not need more.

>>717877105
Why are you so scared to post that photo?

77" 8k OLED gang checking in!

>>717877251
>He didnt set color temp to Warm 45-50
Its so blue dude

>>717877251
>8k
meme resolution and detrimental for high framerates. Just admit you bought a movie watchers TV to be your supposed monitor.

>>717877251
Based

>>717822345
Get the latest Hisense MiniLED and enjoy never having to worry about all the shit OLED involves

>>717831751
Don't you ever try to convince me they've "fixed" VA black smear, its all over the fucking place

>>717877693
You are aware that on an 8K display you can scale down perfectly all the way to 720p?

>>717878109
Even the ones they claim have fixed it still have some of it + motionblur at any transition. Even the fastest ones cant even display any of the wall mounted carpets in witcher 3 without VA pixelflickering.

Nobody talks about the fact that dark colors look like shit on an OLED. Picrel is what dark grey looks like up close.

>>717878218
>takes pic of dithering on his 6bit+frc display
>this is what oleds look like

>>717792259 (OP)
are you retarded? OLEDs have by far the lowest pixel response times

Still waiting for Oled to go down in price like the throw-away planned obsolescence tech that it is, or something better to make it's debut that's already cheaper right out the door.

>>717878401
Huh. How about that. Learn something new every day I suppose.

>>717870027
I have a hisense u8k it's pretty damn good man. And it cost me less than 600 for 55". Oled definitely isn't worth another 2-3x price increase.

>>717792259 (OP)
LMAOOOOOOO

>>717879203
>bought a VA tv
>smearing out the ass
>motionblur out the ass
>bad viewing angles even head on
>600 for it
>meanwhile a cheap oled blows it out the ass for around the same price
lol

>>717878218
Don't put your nose up to the display

>>717879335
I had a cheap oled tv and it sucked. Which is why I got the hisense for even cheaper and it's miles better.

>>717879443
and yet you wont tell us how its better

>>717879489
Colossally brighter
Black levels are equally as good
Colors are way more punchy and saturated on the hisense probably thanks to quantum dot
Speaker quality is light years ahead on the hisense with the multiple speakers and sub included in the actual TV
Oled was more expensive but only supported 120hz when the hisense supports 144hz

The only thing I'd give the oled was the magic remote but I don't use smart TV features on any TV so it was moot in my case.

My lg c1 still good after 4 years except some dead pixels but hdr tech didnt really amaze me

>>717879772
Nah colors are washed out on ips

>>717879830
U8k is va mini led not ips

micro LED is the future not this gay ass OLED shit that you have to look after like a fucking pet

>>717880692
>its the future
>in like 50 years from now

>>717843239
Nooooo if the monitor doesn't last 20 years it's a scam nooooo
Post your crt

i know fuck all about tv/monitors, how the fuck did anyone ever agree to allowing screens that burn images into them to be sold? why are these still being made and why are people still buying them?

>>717881365
image retention has been a thing ever since plasma retard, what op is showing is retention, look at it, the OSD is burnt in, you'd have to leave that osd on for literally days on end on max brightness without ever ever turning it off for retention to show up

I bought a asus oled and everything was fucking purple and then i looked it up and it was just a thing that oledcucks ignore and dont talk about. returned it instantly.

>>717881789
>oledcucks ignore
how come /v/ faggots cant differentiate between QD-OLED and OLED (WOLED)

OLED is a scam

>>717881695
>plasma
where do you think the name "screen saver" came from lul

>>717882439
Beds and central heating are a scam, just sleep on the floor with a thicker layer of clothes

>>717882556
From CRTs you fucking zoomer

>>717797373
To prevent burn-in you retard, what else is it for?

>>717792771
Yeah I have had a CX as a monitor since 2020 and I also have a C4 as my main TV. No issues.

Using it as a monitor you just take precautions. Hide taskbar, uses Wallpaper Engine, and have at least a dual monitor configuration to put static stuff like web browsing on the other screen.