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Anonymous No.717818937 >>717819187 >>717819787 >>717820070 >>717820161 >>717820357 >>717820973 >>717827061 >>717827494 >>717837425 >>717837531 >>717838242 >>717838251 >>717842692
Are there any games set in Eastern Europe? Only that Deus Ex sequel and that one level in MGS4 come to mind.
Anonymous No.717819098 >>717820973
Half-Life 2
Anonymous No.717819187 >>717819417 >>717820973 >>717826958
>>717818937 (OP)
Kingdom Come
STALKER
Metro
Felvidek
AoE2 has some Eastern European campaigns
Resident Evil Village
Gary Grigsby's Eastern Front
Anonymous No.717819417
>>717819187
>Felvidek
That game is kek
Anonymous No.717819548 >>717819647 >>717819662 >>717819675 >>717819683 >>717820013 >>717820013 >>717820140 >>717820239 >>717820375 >>717820618 >>717822048 >>717823293 >>717823835 >>717824045 >>717827172 >>717827212 >>717837773 >>717838339 >>717842720 >>717845902 >>717847693
If they're all slavic, have the same culture, have the same religions, and all look the same, why dont they form a big country, like a slavic empire like the Germans, indians or chinese do? Instead of killing each other?
Anonymous No.717819647 >>717819683
>>717819548
many slavs couldn't truly assimilate the people before them, so a common slavic front cannot be achieved today
Anonymous No.717819662 >>717819683 >>717819756
>>717819548
Because they aren't all Slavic
And being Slavic isn't like being German. It's like being Germanic.
You might as well ask
>Why don't the Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Iceland make one big country?
You DUMB fucking faggot
Anonymous No.717819675 >>717820861
>>717819548
Its only language group
>why germanics like anglos, germans, austrians, west czechs, some slovenians wont form same country?
Anonymous No.717819683
>>717819548
>>717819647
>>717819662
Video games?
Anonymous No.717819756 >>717819809 >>717819825 >>717819908 >>717827293 >>717848903
>>717819662
Hungarians, Balts and Romanians are just slavs in denial.
The latter are truly laughable, half their language is slavic and they larp as romans.
Anonymous No.717819787
>>717818937 (OP)
Scum but it's shit now. Don't even know if the mods will fix it this time.
Anonymous No.717819809 >>717819857
>>717819756
English and americans are just jews in denial, why nor create one coubtry with israel?
Anonymous No.717819825
>>717819756
>Hungarians, Balts and Romanians are just slavs in denial.
That's mostly true but you can never be considered a Slav if you can't understand the gist of what another Slav is saying. And although Hungarian and Romanian have like half their vocabulary from Slavic, the languages are still too different from real Slavic languages to be understood.
Anonymous No.717819857
>>717819809
They are actually golems in denial
Anonymous No.717819908
>>717819756
Romanian is heavily slavicized Latin and Hungarian is heavily turkified and then slavicized Finnish
Anonymous No.717819926 >>717820006 >>717820373 >>717820630
Can anyone tell me what the fuck is wrong with Bulgarian? That languages is nothing like the other slavic languages. I know a little bit of Russian but listening to Bulgarian is like an alien language to me.
Anonymous No.717820006 >>717820307
>>717819926
Bulgarian is an outlier in Slavic languages. They have definite articles (like "a window" vs "the window") and they don't use cases at all, they just put words one after the other like in English. So it's pretty different.
Anonymous No.717820013 >>717820071 >>717820094 >>717820119 >>717820357
>>717819548
>>717819548
>have the same culture, have the same religions, and all look the same
not true
Anonymous No.717820070 >>717820098
>>717818937 (OP)
Witcher 3
Anonymous No.717820071 >>717820196 >>717820225 >>717824861
>>717820013
Is that meant to be ironic? 76% linguistic similarity at the lowest and more like 87% on average is actually being really fucking close to each other.
Anonymous No.717820094 >>717820143 >>717820196
>>717820013
Where's Romanian?
I heard it was similar to Latin, but it's still gotta be somewhat Slavic right?
Anonymous No.717820098 >>717820131
>>717820070
Poland has boglings and shit?
Anonymous No.717820119 >>717820187
>>717820013
>Albanians off in an entirely different world of their own
Amazing what a mountain range can do to some motherfuckers
Anonymous No.717820131
>>717820098
It's a fictional version of Poland, but it's still Poland.
If you feel like playing a game set in Africa you certainly don't play Witcher 3.
Anonymous No.717820140
>>717819548
They never invented this genius rhetoric.
Anonymous No.717820143 >>717820186 >>717820407
>>717820094
No you fucking retard. Romanians aren't Slavs. Romanian is a Latin language. It has a lot of Slavic words, but English also has a lot of French words, but doesn't make the English French does it?
Anonymous No.717820161 >>717820973 >>717821583
>>717818937 (OP)
Hidden and Dangerous 2 has missions in Czech villages
First Hitman game has mission in Hungary
Soldier of Fortune 2 has mission in Prague
Anonymous No.717820186
>>717820143
>but English also has a lot of French words, but doesn't make the English French does it?
It used to be at one point before they went out of their way to change it like some 500 years ago.
Anonymous No.717820187 >>717820308
>>717820119
>Albanians off in an entirely different world of their own
So are Hungarians and Romanians. Albania isn't special.
Anonymous No.717820196 >>717820304 >>717837425
>>717820071
no
the point is they do not have the same culture, have the same religions, and all look the same
like west slavs are mostly catholics, eastern ortodox and in south you have all faiths
>>717820094
>Romanian
outside, its not Slavic, its Romance like Italian or Spanish or French
Anonymous No.717820225 >>717828737
>>717820071
That chart seems extremely off.
Anonymous No.717820239
>>717819548
they used to have one
Anonymous No.717820304 >>717820886 >>717824402 >>717824836
>>717820196
How the fuck are Hungarians showing up always genetically the same as Slavs on these maps but they speak a Mongol language?
Anonymous No.717820307 >>717820565
>>717820006
>search it up
>it's true
>Bulgarian is literally English for slavs
So what's the language then? Is it a pidgin slavic language for the peoples there?
Anonymous No.717820308 >>717820403 >>717824551
>>717820187
Yeah but for Hungarians they came from the same region as the kebabs. Albanians have been there the whole time and still manage to not be on the same level as the rest. That's like mountain tribes up in Papua New Guinea. They're only a hop, step and a jump away and they still can't understand each other outside of war games and head hunting.
Anonymous No.717820357 >>717820449
>>717818937 (OP)
>>717820013
>East "Germany"
>actually just slavic Sorbia
Anonymous No.717820369
Mount & Blade Fire & Sword
Anonymous No.717820373
>>717819926
They got conquered by nomadic turkish Bulgars so maybe that's the reason? Or maybe it's because of cultural influence from Byzantine Empire? Dunno, just my random guesses. I know nothing about early medieval languages.
Anonymous No.717820375 >>717820431
>>717819548
It used to exist, it was called the Warsaw Pact.
Anonymous No.717820403
>>717820308
It only seems that way. Probably all the Balkans north of Greece used to speak something very similar to Albanian, but then they got Latinized by the Roman Empire, and most of them then got Slavicized or Hungarized even later.
Anonymous No.717820407 >>717820497 >>717825539
>>717820143
English is a romance language in all but name, like 70% of English lexicon is Latin-descended.
It's more of a romance language than Romanian is, really, Frenchmen and Italians have an easier time understanding English than Romanian.
Anonymous No.717820431 >>717820495 >>717820507 >>717820616 >>717820790 >>717820845 >>717836412
>>717820375
>It used to exist, it was called the Warsaw Pact.
We have to go back. An alliance for White people.
Anonymous No.717820449
>>717820357
Anonymous No.717820495 >>717836412
>>717820431
with flags arranged to ethnicity
>saw war pact
KINO
Anonymous No.717820497 >>717820552
>>717820407
90% of the most frequently used core lexicon is Germanic, retardo.
>Me and my friends went to my uncle's house and got drunk and fucked each other up the bum
Look, that sentence is 100% Germanic. That is why English is a Germanic language.
Anonymous No.717820507
>>717820431
> We
You never lived in there you nigger
Anonymous No.717820552
>>717820497
english is pidgin language
and german is just jewish dialect anyway
Anonymous No.717820565
>>717820307
Bulgarian population is half turks and half jeets so yeah
Anonymous No.717820616 >>717820680 >>717820702 >>717820715 >>717837425
>>717820431
>An alliance for "White" people.
Evergreen picture
Anonymous No.717820618
>>717819548
They did. The SPQR. But they were too successful and everyone wanted to join them so when the great immigration popped up they had enough, pulled a white flight and went north rather than live with shitskins, slit eyed mongoloids, anglos, germans and swamp germans. This is why there's so few records of their existence before the fall of the WRE.
Anonymous No.717820630 >>717820718
>>717819926
It's because Bulgarian has existed for centuries along with Greek, Albanian and Romanian as a part of a so-called Balkan sprachbund, which utterly fucked up their language
Anonymous No.717820680
>>717820616
I can give you Czechs, they are just Germans in denial, but Poles are moon-faced Baltic mongoloids
Anonymous No.717820702 >>717820813
>>717820616
>Damjan Pavlovic
Serb or Croat name, not Czech or Polish.
Anonymous No.717820715 >>717820749 >>717820772 >>717820774 >>717820794 >>717820797 >>717820813 >>717820823 >>717820841 >>717820975 >>717821017 >>717823178 >>717838063 >>717842980 >>717846413
>>717820616
Why are Czechs and Poles the only normal people among the slavs?
Anonymous No.717820718 >>717841023
>>717820630
Nah pretty sure it's because they're gypsies
Anonymous No.717820735 >>717820938
>Poles
>Slavs
Akshually we wuz Sarmatians n shieet
Anonymous No.717820749
>>717820715
Czechs and Austrians*
Anonymous No.717820772 >>717820829 >>717820835
>>717820715
>Why are these butthurt retards the only normal people among the slavs?
Anonymous No.717820774
>>717820715
Their Slavic character is appropriately tempered by moderate amount of Germanic autism.
Anonymous No.717820790
>>717820431
Zesty.
Anonymous No.717820794
>>717820715
Closest to the Western civilization
Anonymous No.717820797
>>717820715
German influence
Anonymous No.717820813 >>717820976 >>717821145
>>717820702
That's why he's proposing it instead of being disgusted bybthe idea
>>717820715
Historically only Catholics in the tribe. Orthodox breeds pathology (let's not even start on the muslim ones)
Anonymous No.717820823
>>717820715
>poles
>normal
you've got to be polish to even entertain this delusion kurwa bobr
Anonymous No.717820829
>>717820772
Still less retarded and butthurt than literally any other slavic country.
Anonymous No.717820835 >>717820896 >>717820945
>>717820772
> butthurt retards
But we’re not talking about Russia
Anonymous No.717820841
>>717820715
Minimal amounts of the socialist commie bullshit in the 20th century.
Anonymous No.717820845
>>717820431
Huh, I wasn't aware of this phase of the Village People
Anonymous No.717820861
>>717819675
>Anglos are Germanic
Anon.
>you're stupid if you think Germans, Austrians and Sudetenlanders would ever form the same country
... anon.
Anonymous No.717820886
>>717820304
Because genetically they're Slavs who embraced a language of a few horsefuckers who moved into the area in IX-X centuries and became local Slavs' overlords
Toth(Slav, Slovak) is of the most popular Hungarian surnames and Horvath(Croat) is not that far behind, do I really need to say more?
Anonymous No.717820896 >>717820996 >>717821008
>>717820835
Oh yeah, it's not like Russians have made dozens of contributions to world history, science, and the arts, unlike the Poles.
Oh wait...
Anonymous No.717820938 >>717825424
>>717820735
Anonymous No.717820945
>>717820835
Correct. Good boy. We're talking about Poles and Czechs.
Anonymous No.717820973 >>717821143 >>717822028 >>717822248 >>717825642
>>717818937 (OP)
Deus Ex Mankind Divided (Prague)
>>717819098
Half-Life 2 (mix of various EE cities)
>>717819187
Kingdom Come 1 (around Sázava, SEast of Prague)
Kingdom Come 2 (Kutná Hora and Trosky, East and NEast of Prague)
STALKER (area around Chernobyl and the city of Pripyat in Ukraine, North of Kyiv)
Metro (Moscow's metro network, then the Transsiberian Railway)
Felvidek (fictitious location in Slovakia)
AoE2 campaigns
Resident Evil Village (??)
Gary Grigsby's Eastern Front (??)

I'd add:
Arma 2 (there are maps explicitly set in Ústecký Kraj, islands based on Czechoslovakian countryside)
Workers and Resources (a mix of Czechoslovak and famous Russian brutalist buildings).

Oh, and while I was writing this up. This as well:
>>717820161
Hidden and Dangerous 2
Hitman
Soldiers of Fortune 2
Anonymous No.717820975 >>717821054 >>717821207
>>717820715
>Why are Czechs and Poles the only normal people among the slavs?
Are they?
Czechs have a burning hatred for Germans after a century of total slavery and rape, as do Poles who still had a retarded chimpout prone Commonwealth.
Poles are the closest you can define as "sane" solely because they are the only ones who were truly betrayed by both Germany and Russia, and understand the need to gut both Russians and Germanics.
Anonymous No.717820976 >>717842215
>>717820813
Slovenes, Croats, Hungarians have always been Catholic.
Anonymous No.717820996
>>717820896
Nobody cares, as the entire output of the slavic peoples as a whole gets btfo by Italy.
Anonymous No.717821006
Hearts of iron 4 (hoi4)
Anonymous No.717821008
>>717820896
Russian aristocracy and upper classes up until the Bolshevik revolution were almost entirely of Scandinavian and German descent.
Anonymous No.717821017 >>717821113 >>717821160
>>717820715
Slovaks, Slovenes and Croats are pretty normal too
Being in the western(catholic-protestant) cultural sphere can do wonders to your society.
Anonymous No.717821054 >>717821305
>>717820975
I hate Germany too, but for EU related reasons. It’s perfectly reasonable to hate Germany.
Anonymous No.717821113
>>717821017
I would argue that the least normal are the Orthodox ones, and that’s including Muslim slavs. I’m met more reasonable Bosnians than I have reasonable Sebians.
Anonymous No.717821143
>>717820973
You can add Tannenburg to that list. It spans right across the Balkans from the Carpathians through Poland all the way down to Dobruja.
Anonymous No.717821145 >>717823243
>>717820813
>Historically only Catholics in the tribe.
But let's not speak of the Catholic slave trade of Slavs which was in partnership with Muslims, which included trafficking and rape of Slavic children as well; or that one Catholic tribe which created the only concentration camp for toddlers in contemporary European history which made even the fucking Reichstag sick to their stomach despite what they were doing to Jews.
You don't just call yourself sane and exempt from Orthodox pathology after your own people sided with the very religion that fucking trafficked them the same as Muslims.
Anonymous No.717821160
>>717821017
Slovaks are schizophrenic gypsoids like Hungarians, they just speak a different language. Slovaks, Hungarians, Serbs, Romanians are all the same trash. Probably has to do with being half gypsy or something.
Anonymous No.717821207
>>717820975
>Czechs have a burning hatred for Germans after a century of total slavery and rape, as do
That and the Hussite wars after the germs put Jan Huss to the torch at the behest of the Pope and his cronies. In another time he could've been a Martin Luther.
Anonymous No.717821305 >>717821427 >>717825539
>>717821054
I believe modern Gaymany is compleatly unrelated to any historical bagage. They were created in 1990s with a clean slate.
They still fucked up so much it's reasonable to want them eradicated.
>sabotage of EU's energy sector
>migrant crisis
>economic ruin of Souther Europe
>funding hostile dictators to undermine EU's security
>pushing gays, cucks and other degeneracies
The cancer of the continent
Anonymous No.717821317 >>717821471
Why didn't Poland simply assimilate Prussians autists? Or start larping as germans?
Anonymous No.717821427
>>717821305
>They still fucked up so much it's reasonable to want them eradicated.
Yeah because, surprise, they are the same g*rmans that have been poisoning this continent for 2000 years
Anonymous No.717821471
>>717821317
Foolish moment of mercy let prussia be a vassal state ruled by Hohenzolern prince instead of being incorporated into PLC.
When Sweds invaded the vasal abandone its master and nobody bothered to get it back.
Anonymous No.717821583 >>717821865
>>717820161
Hitman Contracts has two missions in Romania.
Anonymous No.717821865
>>717821583
Isn't 47 basically a Romanian orphan?
Anonymous No.717822028
>>717820973
>Resident Evil Village (??)
Very obviously set in a fictional part of the Carpathian mountains of Romania. "Dimitrescu" is a Romanian surname.
>Gary Grigsby's Eastern Front (??)
It's a wargame set on the Eastern European front of WW2.
Anonymous No.717822048
>>717819548
retarded mutt
Anonymous No.717822248 >>717822623
>>717820973
>Chernobyl
>Kyiv
If you're using latter you should spell former as "Chornobyl".
Anonymous No.717822623
>>717822248
It's a butthurt belter, you can't expect much
Anonymous No.717823178
>>717820715
Czechs are jewy as frick tho
Anonymous No.717823243 >>717823434 >>717823568 >>717825575
>>717821145
Slave trade was a pagan thing. It ended in Poland and Czechia almost immediately after christianization.
Besides, we're not talking about WW2 events which may or may not have been true, but the history as a whole, and the verdict is clear: Latin civilization is vastly superior to the Orthodox one.
Anonymous No.717823293
>>717819548
>If they're all slavic
It's largely just a linguistic group, with some genetic similarities.
>have the same culture
They don't.
>have the same religions
They don't.
>and all look the same
They don't.
>why dont they form a big country, like a slavic empire like the Germans
Anglos and Nordics are Germanic as well, why don't they form a big country? Or all latin countries? All in all, language similarities are a poor reason for unification, especially in modern times.
Anonymous No.717823434 >>717823602 >>717824386
>>717823243
you had geography on your side. I would have liked to see the Catholics contend with Persia, the initial wave of Muslims, wave after wave of steppe nomads including the Mongols, Turks, and your traitorous supposed brothers in faith sacking your greatest city.
Anonymous No.717823568 >>717823787 >>717842487
>>717823243
>Slave trade was a pagan thing.
And a Catholic-Muslims thing, which is extremely well documented, by Catholics. Ragusa, Venice, Rome, Germany, all involved themselves in trafficking Slavs. Even higher slave population than African blacks were shipped to Americas.
This is all on Catholics.
So don't talk bullshit, the only sane ones in this case are the Orthodox for not being stupid enough to side with the very people who fucking trafficked them in partnership with the Ottomans.
JSTOR is only chock-full of documentation, as are the archives in the nations who both perpetrated and were victims of it.
On that note, you are less sane than the Orthodox Slavs with your retarded statement.
>Besides, we're not talking about WW2 events which may or may not have been true
Šišak was very well documented, by both Croat and German archives, as well as Italian documentation and sources. The files also lay in fucking Washington DC archives post-Nuremberg and centripetal gathering and parsing for authenticity.

Nigger, just seal your lips.
Your arguments for sanity lose their track when one actually brings some education on the table and poses critically logical questions.
There's a fucking reason Protestantism happened against Catholicism, but not against Orthodoxy.
Because the one having the highest degree of cognitive dissonance and inconsistent behaviour against their own moral creed were the fucking Catholics, by their very own archival admissions.
Anonymous No.717823602
>>717823434
West Slavs fought Mongos and Turks all the time. East and South Slavs rolled over and joined the invadors in the march on Europe in both cases and it was up to westies to stop the hordes
Anonymous No.717823658 >>717823751 >>717823967 >>717827435
>expect video games
>get subhumans seething about Germany
slave morality, stay small, stay irrelevant, stay seething
Anonymous No.717823751
>>717823658
Don't worry, Mohammad is taking care of your country and soon will be in your house
Anonymous No.717823787 >>717823964
>>717823568
>(((JSTOR)))
Anonymous No.717823835
>>717819548
yeah because the last time it ended up so nicely
Anonymous No.717823964
>>717823787
Yes, JSTOR, or you can go to the very nations themselves and look up their economic and political archives, written by priests at the times for example.
You want to talk sanity against a people and collective who haven't trafficked and molested millions of women and children across continents under the banner of Catholicism and Anglicanism, while yourself guilty of such, and whine that they are insane for not trusting you any more than they do Muslims.
The only way Orthodox Slavs are insane is if they allow themselves to trust your ass and pull down their guard so your Prince Andrew / Epstein / Steven van de Velde ass can take advantage of the most retarded of low IQ manipulations.
Anonymous No.717823967
>>717823658
germans love shit porn
Anonymous No.717824045 >>717824104 >>717824394
>>717819548
>have the same culture
Not exactly.
>have the same religion
Half are Catholic and the other half is Orthodox, not exactly homogenous.
>why dont they form a big country, like a slavic empire like the Germans, indians or chinese do
Only Russia succeeded in that, other attempts at some form of a big country failed miserably like Poland-Lithuania due to religious division and dogshit political system, or Yugoslavia which came a century or two to late to form a united national identity.
Anonymous No.717824069
Vampire the Masquerade: Redemption
Anonymous No.717824104
>>717824045
Like it matters. None of you are white.
Anonymous No.717824386 >>717824792 >>717825162 >>717825551 >>717826776 >>717830769
>>717823434
>I would have liked to see the Catholics contend with Persia
Catholics contended with the entire world and won. In fact the only people who could stand up were the ex-Catholic Protestants.
>the initial wave of Muslims
The Franks destroyed the Arabs, whereas the Spaniards initially lost but managed to reconquer their land over the centuries, which is something that never happened for the Orthodox.
>wave after wave of steppe nomads including the Mongols
Poland and Hungary stopped the Mongols. Poland-Lithuania also went on the offensive against them later, which is why the Tatars were limited to a pitiful strip of land along the Black Sea coast.
>Turks
The Ottomans were stopped at the borders of Austrian Croatia and Poland. In fact the only Catholic land the Ottomans managed to conquer was half of Hungary.
By the way, all the great anti-Ottoman commanders of 15th century were Catholic: Vlad Tepes, Skanderbeg, John Hunyadi, Mattias Corvinus etc.
>and your traitorous supposed brothers in faith sacking your greatest city.
LMFAO I love this meme
Byzantium were consistently sabotaging the crusader war effort, and went as far as to slaughter the Catholic civilian population just a few years before the 4th crusade.
The conquest of 1204 was caused entirely by the Byzantine usurper betraying the crusaders who put him on the throne in the first place.
It had no lasting consequences btw, the Greeks got their land back a few decades later only to do what they do best: fight civil wars, lose against the Turks, and kill their only competent generals.
>you had geography on your side
Mother Earth doesn't win wars, sweetie. Maybe if you took responsibility for your actions you wouldn't be such losers.
Anonymous No.717824394
>>717824045
>due to religious division
No such thing, it was purely from political shitshow
Anonymous No.717824402
>>717820304
Language is a terrible indicator of ancestry. Some retards overused it in the 19th century to make what was little more than broscience then made extravagant anthropological and political claims based on that. It was usually from fake countries that hadn't developed a proper spontaneous civic tradition over the centuries and had to fall back to something simplistic in order to roleplay French revolution style nationalism.
Anonymous No.717824551
>>717820308
>North-Eastern Eurasian Steppe
>Kebab
Anonymous No.717824792 >>717825986 >>717830769
>>717824386
>whereas the Spaniards initially lost but managed to reconquer their land over the centuries, which is something that never happened for the Orthodox.
Let's just forget that the Spanish had help from half of Europe for the Reconquista while the Balkan League had to pull the same while Austria-Hungary and Germany were supporting the Ottoman Empire and trying to keep Islam in the Balkans alive for divide and conquer purposes.
>Poland and Hungary stopped the Mongols.
Everyone east of Germany stopped the Mongols, and the Mongols then stopped themselves. Had there been not multiple barriers of Slavs, rebellions, Khazars deciding to detach, Poland and Hungary wouldn't have achieved shit by themselves.
By the by, the Khazars stopped Muslims from ever crossing the Caucasus.
>The Ottomans were stopped at the borders of Austrian Croatia and Poland.
Let's consult history books on which people were forcibly migrated and settled in Austrian Slavonia and southern Hungary to serve as a meatgrinder with a Voivodship, and did all the work alongside Hungarians, while the Croats were for all intents and purposes absent and hiding (and still half conquered for a century by Turks to also add to your omission of information).
>Byzantium were consistently sabotaging the crusader war effort
Yet the Serbs, Croats ironically (sack of Zara), Romanians, Bulgarians, Macedonians, Montenegrins, Bosnians, weren't, yet the crusaders have ample documentation of pillaging, raping, and sacking them for 3 fucking crusades unprovoked, just to build upon the culture of chevauchee because killing, robbing, and stealing peasants along the way became a very Catholic moral and ethical tradition during those centuries.

After all that shit, you still want to open your mouth?
>
Anonymous No.717824836 >>717825452
>>717820304
There recently was new research on that. Hungarians, Estonians and Finns are have shared Yakutian linguistic ancestors who started migrating westward from the Siberian Far-East. In the course of that migration their genetics shifted almost entirely and the larger populations they mingled with adapted their languages (it is not known if this happened more by conquest or by cultural assimilation - one theory is that their cultures dominated essential cultural meeting spots in the Eurasian steppe in critical times), but they still retained the language even when the DNA of it's speakers changed almost completely. Today Finns have most Yakutian DNA at 10%, Estonians have less than that, and in Hungarians the Yakutian genes have practically entirely vanished.
That has happened in other corners of the world too. Forensic archeology of ancient Carthagenian and Phoenician gravesites has proven than people of Carthage and Phoenician colonies had mostly mixed Greek, Mediterranean islander and native North African DNA, and almost no Levantine heritage despite their language and culture originating from Canaanites.
Anonymous No.717824861
>>717820071
I have zero idea how exactly lexical similarity is calculated but I can tell you these stop being mutually intelligible the moment they go below ~85% or you take a single step further down the line from the starting language. It's just vaguely familiar sounding babble at that point and two people reciting the thesaurus in the hope that at least one synonym will be comprehensible.
Anonymous No.717825162 >>717826896
>>717824386
>Vlad Tepes
Was forced to convert as part of an agreement, unwillingly, to keep his drive to free an Orthodox Wallachia; and still overwhelmingly supported Orthodox independence in Wallachian lands.
>Skanderbeg
Was Orthodox Christian, then Muslims, then Catholic.
His most famed saying is he holds none of the religions above the other, all are part of him.
How very Catholic.
Also Serbs were divided into two states during the 15th century after their defeat, a divided Despotate Era between the Ottoman Empire and the Hungarian-appointed Serbian Despots given official titles and land on the Panonian and Slavonian side of the isle. The side with the Ottomans also fucked off away from Europe to fight Timur and wage wars on the Persian front, hoping to involve themselves as little as possible in European matters so as not to undermine the Serbian population in Hungary and later the Austria-Hungary geography. There's no lack of documentations of how much the Serbs and Orthodox Bosnians suffered to keep those borders in check while getting buttraped on both sides.
What the fuck are you smoking?
At least get an education.
Anonymous No.717825424
>>717820938
Why are there random Sarmatians in Italy?
Anonymous No.717825452 >>717825561 >>717843538
>>717824836
>and in Hungarians the Yakutian genes have practically entirely vanished.
Yeah, interesting, it's just strange when in modern Europe if you have mostly Slavic DNA you will speak Slavic, if it's mostly Germanic DNA you will speak Germanic, etc. I understand it happened in history but it's still a big outlier in modern Europe. It's as strange as having a country full of pitch black sub saharan Africans and they all speak Irish or some shit.
Anonymous No.717825539
>>717820407
>like 70% of English lexicon is Latin-descended
More like 60% is French-Latin descended.

>>717821305
You mentioned it in passing (it's a main cause of ruin in southern Europe) but the real bullshit is the euro which is just imposing the Deutsch Mark monetary policy on the continent.
Anonymous No.717825551 >>717826776 >>717826896
>>717824386
>Catholics contended with the entire world and won
Pic related. Shitty rump states of Eastern Rome, Serbia, Albania, Wallachia, Bulgaria and Moldavia put up more resistance against the Ottomans than this shitty excuse of a crusade.
>which is something that never happened for the Orthodox
Difference is Catholic powers would sabotage any rising power against the Ottomans. See: Michael the Brave's rebellion, Vlad III and the Crimean War.
>hehe byzzies deserved it btw no biggie
Heathen Turks were less cruel and destructive than the fourth crusade
>Mother Earth doesn't win wars
Balkan kingdoms didn't have the luxury of Balkans soaking up and delaying the Ottomans. Eastern Rome, Bulgaria and the rest were the first on the chopping block.
Anonymous No.717825561
>>717825452
not even the irish speak irish but their country is already pretty full of pitch black nigs
Anonymous No.717825575 >>717826896
>>717823243
>Slave trade was a pagan thing. It ended in Poland and Czechia almost immediately after christianization.
Not at all. The Christian kingdoms were literally built on being major slave rings with Christianity of the seller being the requirement for Frankish, Venetian and Byzantine buyers.

Read some papers like "Slavery in Árpád-era Hungary in a Comparative Context". It focuses on the Kingdom of Hungary and its slavery which only started fizzling out around the time of the Mongolian raids but it also touches on the topic of Poland and Bohemia functioning similarly in this regard. Not surprisingly as the three kingdoms did share a very similar position and developments (with Bohemian crown lacking the direct Orthodox neighbor and being directly part of HRE giving it some minor oddities compared to the other 2).
Anonymous No.717825642
>>717820973
Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb had a Prague level. It's more asset themes than actual real life locations but I guess it counts.
One of the SOCOMs has multiple Gdańsk levels
Damn I'm really racking my brain now.
Anonymous No.717825986 >>717826526 >>717826649
>>717824792
>Let's just forget that the Spanish had help from half of Europe for the Reconquista
The Reconquista was overwhelmingly a Spanish endeavor with some minor French involvement.
The orthodogs didn't pitch in because they were cowardly and weak. The Catholics, being morally superior, were trying to reconcile with the orthodogs for centuries after the orthodog apostatized, and sent multiple crusades and auxiliary forces to help you schismatics out.
>the Balkan League had to pull the same while Austria-Hungary and Germany were supporting the Ottoman Empire and trying to keep Islam in the Balkans alive for divide and conquer purposes
Greece's liberation was entirely a Western achievement, and the Balkanites would've never gained independence if not for Russia, which in turn was kept on life support from France and UK.
>Everyone east of Germany stopped the Mongols, and the Mongols then stopped themselves.
That's not true. The entire Rus' state got conquered and transformed by the Mongols, with East Slavs regularly participating in the Mongol invasions against Poland-Lithuania, but they sucked so hard they got conquered instead.
>Had there been not multiple barriers of Slavs, rebellions, Khazars deciding to detach
The Khazars didn't even exist by the time of Mongol invasions. Your rebellions didn't mean anything either, killing lowly peasants takes zero effort.
>which people were forcibly migrated and settled in Austrian Slavonia and southern Hungary to serve as a meatgrinder with a Voivodship, and did all the work alongside Hungarians
WE WUZ CROATZ N SHEEIT
>yet the [East Slavs] weren't, yet the crusaders have ample documentation of pillaging, raping, and sacking them
Damn, who knew wandering armies cause crime?
Anonymous No.717826307 >>717826483 >>717826893
video games
Anonymous No.717826483
>>717826307
Haven't seen this one in years, deleted it after getting out of my nationalist phase.
Anonymous No.717826526 >>717826896 >>717827106
>>717825986
>Greece's liberation was entirely a Western achievement
You wouldn't tell lies on the internet right?
>in turn was kept on life support from France and UK
You mean the Ottomans were kept on life support because muh balance of power.
Anonymous No.717826649 >>717828240
>>717825986
>with some minor French involvement.
With some major French involvement and even Italian involvement, which spanned centuries.
Again, educate yourself before opening your mouth.
>The orthodogs didn't pitch in because they were cowardly and weak.
Because they were busy waging wars on another side of the continent and creating the peaceful breathing room for the rest of Europe to either go into mutually-destructive chimpouts of genociding and raping each other's peasants by the hundreds of thousands and engaging in slavery, or helping Spain out.
>Greece's liberation was entirely a Western achievement
Was entirely a continental achievement which required every single strata of the globe, including Arab revolutions against the Ottomans, to free up and make possible.
>and the Balkanites would've never gained independence if not for Russia
Yes, Russia doing what Austria-Hungary and Catholics didn't, before betraying most of the Balkanites just like the Catholics tended to betray them. How fitting.
>That's not true.
It very much is.
>The entire Rus' state got conquered and transformed by the Mongols
Transformed into being left alone to fight Boyar Wars so long as they paid taxes, and then started undermining and sabotaging the entire Mongol Empire for a few centuries, a destabilization which naturally helped in securing the wall in the East. More omission of information on your part.
>The Khazars didn't even exist by the time of Mongol invasions.
Who the fuck mentioned Mongols? Muslims were mentioned, via Caucasus. Are you losing grasp of your emotions here? What's happening?
>WE WUZ CROATZ N SHEEIT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbs_in_Hungary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbs_of_Croatia#History
Oh look, Hungarian and Austrian library sources for a very rich and hefty history of a people used as meatshields so Croats and Austrians didn't have to die, while Hungarians and Serbs did.
How fitting.
>Damn, who knew...
Catholics behave like Muslims. Orthodox do.
Anonymous No.717826776
>>717825551
Catholic powers buck broke Turks on most occasions. First in the XI-XIIIth century (mostly French soldiers with a bit of help from all around) stopping their march, then Austrians with some Catholic slavs in the early modern era then in the 20th century it's a French led force that captured Constantinople. Make a list of battles of Catholics (whether or not you add Anglos occasionally siding with the good guys) against Turks and count the victories, it's a bloodbath for them. Ortholarpers can't compete, especially if you count before 1700 when the Ottomans were already on their slow burn decline.
>>hehe byzzies deserved it btw no biggie
Yes. Anyone that actually reads what happened knows. The cruelty was (((Venetians))) ordering attacks on Dalmatia but there is zero (0) wrongdoing in Greece.

>>717824386
>the Greeks got their land back a few decades later only to do what they do best: fight civil wars, lose against the Turks, and kill their only competent generals
True of the capital, but ancient classical Greece remained under French and Italian administration until the 15th-17th century.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankokratia
Anonymous No.717826893
>>717826307
>w-w-we are relevant!
you're just the italy for poorfags lmao
Anonymous No.717826896 >>717827258 >>717827350
>>717825162
>ummm our best leaders were forced to convert!!!
What does that say about your country?
>>717825551
>Pic related.
Thank you for pointing out how Catholics have to go out of their way to help the orthodogs
>Eastern Rome, Serbia, Albania, Wallachia, Bulgaria and Moldavia put up more resistance against the Ottomans
Considering how they were conquered, they didn't
>Difference is Catholic powers would sabotage any rising power against the Ottomans
Just another proof why orthodoxy is WEAK, and Catholicism is STRONG
>Heathen Turks were less cruel and destructive than the fourth crusade
Yes, the propensity of the orthodox people to side with Muslims at all times is a well known fact.
>Balkan kingdoms didn't have the luxury of Balkans soaking up and delaying the Ottomans
There was no "delaying". The Ottomans got their asses kicked when they tried to conquer Catholic lands, that's all there is to it.
If anything, the Ottomans greatly benefited from the wars with the orthodogs as they gained resources, land, and manpower at a minimal risk.
>>717825575
Slavery in Czechia and Poland declined sharply around the time of christianization, with the Arabic dirham being replaced by local and German coins as the main currency.
Around the same time the Samanids were destroyed, and they were their main trading partners through which the bulk of the Slavs entered the Middle East. Balkanites selling each other to the Muslims doesn't interest me.
>>717826526
Greece would have lost if not for the naval battle of Novarino.
Anonymous No.717826958 >>717827001
>>717819187
>kcd
Czechia is a western 1st world country
Anonymous No.717827001 >>717827221
>>717826958
east of germany and austria = eastern europe
Anonymous No.717827052
My two most anticipated games of this year are set in EE.
Cronos and Holstin
Anonymous No.717827061 >>717830558
>>717818937 (OP)
>Only that Deus Ex sequel
It's set in central europe though.
Anonymous No.717827106
>>717826526
>late 19th century
>turks do what they do best and massacre a bunch of christian civillians in the balkans
>russians react with fury
>proceed to invade and kick the shit out of the turks
>christians in the balkans begin actively supporting russia's war and revolt
>turks are on the ropes
>russians are nearing constantinople
>the british suddenly intervene and demand russia agree to a peace with the turks or else the uk will join on the turks side
>the peace essentially lets the turks get away with minimal territory losses
>russia agrees because they can't fight the brits
>the turks then descend on the christians who revolted and commit several more massacres against them as revenge
thank you queen victoria, very cool!
Anonymous No.717827172
>>717819548
zigger hands typed this post
Anonymous No.717827212
>>717819548
Genetic wise, yes.
Everything else no.
Otherwise Germany should just annex Britain already.
Anonymous No.717827221
>>717827001
The limit is east of the Elbe = out of European core.
Czechia is west of the Elbe. Prussianoids are not.
Anonymous No.717827258
>>717826896
>Just another proof why orthodoxy is WEAK, and Catholicism is STRONG
The Albanian Catholics bent over and cucked out to the Ottomans so hard they completely converted to Islam.
Anonymous No.717827293 >>717830639 >>717844934
>>717819756
Romanians are closer to Italians than slavs you fucking retard
Anonymous No.717827350 >>717828463
>>717826896
>What does that say about your country?
What does that say about Catholics?
That they were too be trusted about as much as Ottomans since they engaged in the same shit. Yet their nations remained non-Catholic religions, because they were sane to know not to side with those who treated them equally, or worse, than Ottomans.
Which is where the start of this debate, the crux of this debate, lays.
>Thank you for pointing out how Catholics have to go out of their way to help the orthodogs
By enslaving, raping them, trafficking and raping their children, and genociding them?
Not gonna lie kid, Protestantism is what you deserved, and even most contemporary Catholic priesthood agree on it.
>Yes, the propensity of the orthodox people to side with Muslims at all times is a well known fact.
The Orthodox sided with themselves when they experienced that both Catholics and Muslims were trafficking, enslaving, and raping their children.
I'd say that's a pretty sane and morally consistent, and logical, choice to make. Unless you are gonna argue that trafficking, raping, and enslaving children is a bragging point for Catholicism.
>The Ottomans got their asses kicked when they tried to conquer Catholic lands
Is that why 90% of Croatia fell under them for 100 years, swathes of Hungary?
Or is it that the death and resistance of the people along the way slowed them down enough for the rest of Europe to have a breather and consolidate?
Apparently your arguments are just throwing basic education and logic, economics, logistics, everything, out the window to make Muslim or Commie-like arguments.
>manpower at a minimal risk
Last I checked one of those Orthodogs practically warred against the Ottomans alone for 80 successive years with almost no help for the majority of the battles before killing their Sultan and heavily weakening their military force to slow down their invasions and have to recuperate.

You seem to be losing it.
Anonymous No.717827435
>>717823658
It's actually amazing how all those sub-races will cope and seethe and shit their pants and blame Germany for everything before even considering their own faults.
Anonymous No.717827494
>>717818937 (OP)
>Brown are neighboring peoples
That's all you need to know about slavs
Anonymous No.717828240 >>717828757
>>717826649
>With some major French involvement and even Italian involvement, which spanned centuries.
Ah yes, the famous Orthodox French intervention at Covadonga, Las Navas de Tolosa, and Granada, led by an Orthodox Frenchman el Cid. What would the Spanish Catholics do without them?
>they were busy waging wars on another side of the continent and creating the peaceful breathing room for the rest of Europe
The Catholics did all that and more, since orthodox participation in the West is nowhere to be found.
>Transformed into being left alone to fight Boyar Wars so long as they paid taxes, and then started undermining and sabotaging the entire Mongol Empire for a few centuries, a destabilization which naturally helped in securing the wall in the East. More omission of information on your part.
Explain how the Ukrainians helped Poland by invading them in the Mongol invasions.
>Who the fuck mentioned Mongols?
I did, and you responded by bringing up the Khazars.
>Oh look, Hungarian and Austrian library sources for a very rich and hefty history of a people used as meatshields so Croats and Austrians didn't have to die, while Hungarians and Serbs did.
Yes, and Nikola IV Zrinski was a Serb all along. Those Serbs at the gates of Constantinople were 100% Croatian, though
Anonymous No.717828463 >>717829006
>>717827350
>What does that say about Catholics?
That Catholics built a powerful, self-reliant civilization that went on to conquer the world, whereas Orthodox were stuck as impoverished meatshields for the Turks, and could only ever achieve something with either with overwhelming Catholic support, or complete apathy.
>Is that why 90% of Croatia fell under them for 100 years, swathes of Hungary?
Key words: 100 years, 90%, swathes. As opposed to the entirety of the Orthodox Church outside of Russia, for 500 years straight.
>By enslaving, raping them, trafficking and raping their children, and genociding them?
Yes, war is bad. Your point?
>The Orthodox sided with themselves when they experienced that both Catholics and Muslims were trafficking, enslaving, and raping their children.
You're saying this as if Constantinople wasn't a slave trade hub for Orthodox Slavs, the Balkanite way of fighting wasn't reliant on "little war" aka raping and killing civilians, and the Cossacks didn't literally bend the knee before the Porte and explicitly allow the Tatars to enslave any Orthodox Slav caught in their way in exchange for military support. KWAB.
>Last I checked one of those Orthodogs practically warred against the Ottomans alone for 80 successive years with almost no help for the majority of the battles before killing their Sultan and heavily weakening their military force to slow down their invasions and have to recuperate.
Again, you losing didn't help the Catholics one bit. The Catholics defeated Ottoman invasions numbering hundreds of thousands, whereas the Orthodox were crushed and conscripted into their war machine. Siege of Candia alone is more impressive than all Orthodox wars against the Turks combined.
Anonymous No.717828737
>>717820225
This one looks better but I can already see several inaccuracies just from a first look.
Anonymous No.717828757 >>717830089 >>717830769
>>717828240
>Ah yes, the famous Orthodox French intervention at Covadonga, Las Navas de Tolosa, and Granada, led by an Orthodox Frenchman el Cid. What would the Spanish Catholics do without them?
A Reconquista helped by entire empires, while the Balkans had those same Catholic Empires supporting the Ottomans when they needed their support the most.
This is called, cognitive dissonance and duplicity, on your part.
>The Catholics did all that and more, since orthodox participation in the West is nowhere to be found.
The Catholics did none of that for the most part, they were too busy killing each other and trying to own the Pope who was weak at the time and only a tool for individual Emperors and Kings, his powers eroded.
>Explain how the Ukrainians helped Poland by invading them in the Mongol invasions.
Explain how Poland helped the Khazars keep the Caucasus clear of Muslims for centuries, since the Khazars are mostly given tribute and credit for that even by Polish and Lithuanian sources.
>I did, and you responded by bringing up the Khazars.
You mentioned Mongols in retort to a statement that Khazars kept the Eastern Gates closed to Caliphate invaions (Muslim invaions) as the last and one of the most important lines of defense prior to the rise of the Ottomans, agreed upon by all historians and even the Polish themselves. Again, how high are you?
>Yes and Nikola IV Zrinski
So you have no retort to all the Austro-Hungarian credits, titles, and lands given to Serbs dying alongside Hungarians while Croats were cleaning Hungarian stables? Gotcha. So you've lost your composure and are arguing like a Commie.

>That Catholics built a
Genocidal chaotic groups of warring kingdoms which engaged in human trafficking, slavery, and child rape, the same as they do today; while most of the Orthodox nations are free of that sin sans Russians. So Catholics are the same as Muslims from the Orthodox side of things.

Every post you made so far makes Orthodox look sanest. Congrats.
Anonymous No.717829006 >>717830089
>>717828463
>You're saying this as if Constantinople wasn't a slave trade hub for Orthodox Slavs
It was.
But this thread is about Orthodox Slavs and not Byzantines.
You mentioned Orthodox Slavs were devoid of sanity, while consistently making arguments in favour of their sanity of not siding with people who genocided, enslaved, and raped and trafficked them, Catholics being at the forefront alongside Muslims.
They even separated from the Byzantine Church for this very reasons and formed their own Orthodox Churches.

Throughout all these walls of text, the only thing you achieved was show:
1] Lack of education in history via omission of information.
2] Lack of any moral or ethical arguments in favour of Catholicism for Orthodox.
3] Lack of any evidence or proof of sanity on your own part on this topic.

Again, sanity in your dictionary is a people subserving themselves to a religion which genocided, trafficked, enslaved, and child diddled them as much as Islam, and sided with Islam long before any Balkanites did. (Slavic Slave trade was perpetrated by Catholics in partnership with Muslims long before Ottomans came to be).
So you don't even know basic math and chronology.

Is there anything you can't fuck up in your arguing and thinking methodologies?
Anonymous No.717830089 >>717830635
>>717828757
>>717829006
>ortholarper except dismissing Greeks and Russians
Serb, Belarussian and converted churkas would suck Russian dick so probably not. Ukrainians wouldn't currently spout medieval anti-"Latin" psyops. Levantines even "Orthodox" have good relations with Catholics and with Greeks.
So Bulgarian or Romanian?
Anonymous No.717830558 >>717834901
>>717827061
Central Europe is a made up cope, at best it's another word for the DACH (German speaking) countries, certainly never meant to include slavhumans
Anonymous No.717830635
>>717830089
Anon, trying to pin my ethnicity is worthless to a debate.
Sanity: The act of a people subserving themselves to their enemies, those who wish them harm, and those who have historically done harm to them and their fellow people on a general scale.
The first chronologically to engage in the slavery of Slavs, were Catholics, the second were the Muslims, the third the Byzantine Empire, in that order.
The first Balkanites to ally with Muslims were Bulgarians in around 924 as part of a counter-balance to create Greater Bulgaria.

The Orthodox Bosnians, Serbs, Montenegrins, Macedonians, Bulgarians, Romanians, Moldavians, and even now growing Orthodox Albanian populations, have every bit of sanity that Catholicism doesn't whether out of luck or circumstances, hence Protestantism never reached them as a moral blowback; and the truly insane would be to suggest to them to trust the very same Catholics who put them into concentration camps, trafficked them, enslaved them, diddled their children, and even today attempt and engage in the same shit while self-flaggelating and forcing Muslim migrations from the Middle East upon Europe.
You have no claim to sanity, you have no claim to even the qualifications to judge the same as you've established clearly to anyone reading here and capable of looking up history books and documentations.

ALL the aforementioned people have every bit of right to be as skeptical, as lacking in trust, and as apathetic to Catholics, as they do to Muslims.
This is unarguable. As for the Catholic Slavs, they better remember that they live in cognitive dissonance and should treat their own Catholic Churches as very separate from Western Europe, as the Balkan Orthodox Churches separated from Byzantium, on the grounds of consistency and basic education. Your people on the other hand anon, are a plague then, and a self-sabotaging plague today.
Anonymous No.717830639
>>717827293
>Romanians are closer to Italians than slavs you fucking retard
You seem to confuse the language with the population
Jamaican negroes speak English, are they now closer to Englishmen than to other negroes?
Hint: Romanians have nothing in common genetically with Italians.
Anonymous No.717830769 >>717831084 >>717831414
>>717828757
>A Reconquista helped by entire empires
Feel free to list all the times European empires launched an invasion against the moors to help out the Reconquista.
>Catholic Empires supporting the Ottomans when they needed their support the most.
Numerous crusades and the defense of 1453 prove the opposite. Ecumenism was entirely a one-sided behavior on the part of the Catholics.
>The Catholics did none of that for the most part, they were too busy killing each other and trying to own the Pope who was weak at the time and only a tool for individual Emperors and Kings, his powers eroded.
LMAO you realize that the Turks were brought to Anatolia to fight against the Franks, right? Or into Europe to fight the Serbians? Or that the popes were infinitely more autonomous than the patriarchs, whose religion and loyalty depended entirely on the monarchs above them?
>Explain how Poland helped the Khazars keep the Caucasus clear of Muslims for centuries
The Khazars were enslaving weak East Slavs and posed no threat to Poland.
>You mentioned Mongols in retort to a statement that Khazars kept the Eastern Gates
Get your eyes checked. >>717824386 came before >>717824792
>So you have no retort
The most famous Yugoslavian warrior being a Croat is enough. Serbs having no history beyond helping Turks at Ankara and Constantinople is also enough.
>Genocidal chaotic groups of warring kingdoms which engaged in human trafficking
Why do you pretend your hellhole was anything but that? There's a reason why the Ottoman Sultans needed Italians to paint them, and not millions of Greeks and other Balkanites.
>You mentioned Orthodox Slavs were devoid of sanity, while consistently making arguments in favour of their sanity of not siding with people who genocided, enslaved, and raped and trafficked them
You're not virtuous, you're just losers who claim the higher moral ground by losing. Russia is what happens when the Orthodox remain independent from neighboring Muslims and Catholics.
Anonymous No.717831084
>>717830769
>Russia is what happens when the Orthodox remain independent from neighboring Muslims and Catholics.
Damn, so maybe it's a good idea then to team up with Muslims and Catholics.
Anonymous No.717831414 >>717834337
>>717830769
>Orthodox Balkanites not engaging in Human trafficking, slavery, child diddling, like Catholics, is loser cope
So Catholics are insane people with equal moral and ethical standing as Muslims, while the Orthodox Balkanfags are the sane ones.
Gottcha.
You want to paint Balkanslavs as insane, yet you give them all the reasons to be on guard against your people as much as Muslims with each post. It's a marvelous level of self-incrimination from arrogance.

>The most famous Yugoslavian warrior being a Croat is enough. Serbs having no history beyond helping Turks at Ankara and Constantinople is also enough.
Neither Serbs nor Croats have anyone famous, both are irrelevant shitholes, Serbs just got more credits in fighting off the Ottomans than Croats did, given so by Hungarians and Austrians, even Rome itself ironically enough which is why Italians are cozying up with Serbs again today. Same as Romanians. That speaks volumes enough to me. It's to the point that, upon checking the history books, Croats chimped out more times against the Hungarians and Austrian court than they fought battles against Ottomans.
>Numerous crusades and the defense of 1453 prove the opposite.
You mean numerous sackings and genocides along the way, including even the Siege of Zara, and then finally deciding that Ottomans should stay in power during the 1st Balkan War. Just say you are duplicitous, it's easier this way.
Anonymous No.717833646
this is a silly thread
Anonymous No.717834337 >>717835468
>>717831414
>You want to paint Balkanslavs as insane
NTA but that's pretty much a given
Anonymous No.717834901 >>717837425
>>717830558
It's made up because nobody wants us. Westerners say we're not western europe because we're too poor, easterners say we're not eastern europe because we're too wealthy and we're certainly not north or south europe. And then everyone gets pissed off again when we say we're our own thing.
You fucks are going to be mad no matter what direction we choose, literally no pleasing you.
Anonymous No.717835468
>>717834337
It really isn't considering every choice of theirs is either out of preservation or rightful distrust towards parties who fucked them over first.
You want insanity, look outside of it currently. The entire world is self-hating or in a war, or electing pedophiles and rapists as leaders, or getting trucks mowed into their kids by Muslims, bombed, shived, and scarred by acid flasks, except for the Balkans, for 25 years running now. Europe, USA, and Russia have become the Balkans.
Anonymous No.717836412 >>717836659 >>717838364
>>717820495
>>717820431
>that height diffrence between PL solder and RUS solder
Anonymous No.717836659
>>717836412
Yeah I'm not surprised the Russian the Bulgarian and the Hungarian are midgets, they are all steppoid chinklets. But the Czech midget is a bit surprising, must be some Avar remnant.
Anonymous No.717837425 >>717837863
>>717834901
>>717818937 (OP)
>>717820196
>>717820616

you know its interesting that european slav, non-slav, anglo, germanic, celtic race shit. to us burgers, you're all white and you're all mutts like the rest of us. which country hasn't been raped a billion times over?
Anonymous No.717837531
>>717818937 (OP)
Many strategies are set there. Many big euro wars are happen there so games about those wars will be set there (this is especially true for WW2 games), not only strategies. If you count those parts of Germany as Eastern Europe, even more games are set there, like Castle Wolfenstein was probably there
Anonymous No.717837773 >>717839567
>>717819548
They don't all speak the same language, they have different religions, and their culture is different. That and history of blood feuds. What you should be really asking is why don't the constituent Slavic GROUPS form their own countries, which is actually what happened for most of history. King Bolesław I of Poland united the West Slavs, Poland, Czechia and Slovakia, Russia had conquered the Eastern Slavs, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, and kept them until 1991, and Yugoslavia was made to unite the Southern Slavs (or at least most of them) (in fact the word 'Yugoslavia' is just South Slavia in Serbo-Croatian). And the reason why that isn't happening is because three Slavic empires would immediately become the new power brokers of Europe, and so its in the interest of the US and Western Europe to ensure they remain divided.
Anonymous No.717837863 >>717838017
>>717837425
You have a corrupted understanding of what a mutt or rape is.
Anonymous No.717838017 >>717838164
>>717837863
the romans raped danes, the danes raped the celtics, the celtics raped the anglos and the germanics raped the slavs, the slavs raped the slavs and the germans raped the slavs again, the browns raped the italians and the italians raped themselves

pretty sure most of europe shares the same dna at this point man
Anonymous No.717838063 >>717838343
>>717820715
Poles are not normal and I say this as a Pole. We are bickering, infighting idiots with the world's largest chip on our shoulder towards our Western and Eastern neighbors. Instead of moving the fuck on and raising ourselves up as a nation we're committed to being a vassal of another nation to screw over one of our former occupiers, and then once we're tired of that, we'll swap over to the other great power and do the same to the other former occupant. Poles have historically only been a formidable people in Europe under the rule of a dictator who usually isn't even fully Polish. Stefan Bathory was a Hungarian and even Józef Piłsudski aligned closer to Lithuania.
Anonymous No.717838164 >>717838319
>>717838017
You forgot how the Slavs also raped the Germanics after ww2, so much so that most Germans in Eastern Germany have some kind of Slavic DNA.
Anonymous No.717838242
>>717818937 (OP)
Hrot was pretty nice
Anonymous No.717838251
>>717818937 (OP)
Mount and Blade Fire and Sword follows the depressing real world history the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in the mid 1600s fighting the Cossack Uprisings backed by the Muscovite Tsardom of Russia.

Meanwhile the Swedish Empire (which was big during this time) and the Crimean Khanate try to drag the war out as long as possible and even interfere. In the midst of all this chaos - bandits, slavers and mercenary groups are running wild.

It’s also in the Pike and Shot Era - so there’s swords and muskets. Also no one really ended up winning that war so it’s like everyone suffered and the Polish Lithuanian commonwealth - once prestigious began its downfall. It’s as close to dark medieval story telling you get
Anonymous No.717838282
reminder there's 0 game from albania
Anonymous No.717838319
>>717838164
see thats what im saying lmao.
Anonymous No.717838339
>>717819548
If they didn't despise each other they wouldn't be true Slavs.
Anonymous No.717838343 >>717838781
>>717838063
It is physically impossible to not be a vassal state of someone as Poland, that's how you end up with partitions. As soon as the patron is lost Poland is on the menu because its geopolitical situation doesn't allow it to stand on its own.
Anonymous No.717838364
>>717836412
Poor blood Iranian vs half-Mongol half-Turk
Anonymous No.717838781
>>717838343
This is a gross mischaracterization of Eastern European history. Typically speaking you have 3 great powers in the region, that being Germany, Russia and the position of 'third empire in the middle' has been historically contested. Poland-Lithuania was the undisputed Central Empire in the region, and Austria took the place of the Western Empire and Russian the place of the Eastern Empire. But Sweden was creating a fourth pole in the North and destroyed Poland during the Deluge. After that point, Prussia proclaimed independence and began militarizing and asserting itself as the new Western power while Austria supplanted Poland as the new Central power. Following the partitions this balance of power held out until WW1, with Germany, Austria and Russia acting as the three Eastern European empires. Austria collapsed and Poland was poised to retake its place but infighting in negotiations with the Soviets at Riga following the 1920 Polish-Soviet war allowed the Soviets to claim a mostly beneficial peace treaty, and idiotic infighting and stupid foreign policy led to bad relations with Czechoslovakia, who SHOULD'VE been our natural sphere of influence leading into our historical allies in Hungary and Romania. Poland essentially had the chance to become a formidable nation in the interwar period but infighting between Piłsudski and Dmowski and Piłsudski's desire to create a democratic Poland led to alienation of all possible allies. Of course, none of this discussion matters anymore because nuclear weapons automatically invalidate any kind of regime change.
Anonymous No.717839567 >>717839938 >>717840983
>>717837773
Because said groups have much more bad blood between themselves than between themselves and non-related groups, or in the rare cases when that's not the case, the language is the only thing that unites them so they don't care for each other? Romania and Moldova are probably the only countries in the entire world that could somewhat realistically unite, and the only reason why is because soviets divided them not even a century ago.
Anonymous No.717839938 >>717842594
>>717839567
Nations unite out of geopolitical necessity not because they 'want to'. And usually this unification is guided by a more powerful central nation. Serbia led Yugoslavia. Sardinia led Italy. Prussia led Germany. The West Slavs may have no strong feelings one way or the other towards each other but sooner or later they will grow towards each other as the American world order erodes in importance. Russia was actually two steps ahead and began unifying its Slavic group by ruthlessly keeping Belarus in its sphere of influence and conquering Ukraine.
Anonymous No.717840832 >>717842779
The only real Eastern European countries are Poland, Hungary, and Russia. They were massive, powerful Medieval kingdoms. Everything else is meme tier.
Anonymous No.717840983 >>717850706
>>717839567
>Romania and Moldova are probably the only countries in the entire world that could somewhat realistically unite
I genuinely don't understand why Slovaks chimped out from Czechoslovakia. Unlike Hungarians, Czechs spoke the same language and didn't consider them subhumans. They would've been much better off.
Anonymous No.717841023 >>717841073
>>717820718
nah youre just negative iq
Anonymous No.717841073 >>717841698
>>717841023
>an actual bulgarian gypsy on /v/
Well I'll be
Anonymous No.717841698 >>717842375
>>717841073
>retard shows everyone how retard he is
Anonymous No.717842215 >>717842375
>>717820976
ok your irrelevant shitter tribe has been christcucked who the fuck cares lmfao
Anonymous No.717842375
>>717841698
>>717842215
Is it difficult living without a frontal lobe?
Anonymous No.717842487
>>717823568
>This is all on Catholics.
Ah yes, the ones that stopped the slave trade?
Anonymous No.717842594 >>717850090
>>717839938
>Yugoslavia
The country that existed because of a strongarm Austro-Hungarian empire, was on it's way to tearing itself apart but WW2 started, then Tito came to power and strongarmed it till his death after which the country has finally managed to tear itself apart is your example of a united nation? OK bro.
>Russia was keeping Belarus
One of those is hiding under a paper-thin veneer of democracy and the other one doesn't even bother. Do you really think Belarus would've tried to join the EU if not for Russia?
>Ukraine
It's capturing the land, not the nation, which is the important part.
Anonymous No.717842692 >>717844171
>>717818937 (OP)
Where the hell did the Avars come from?
Anonymous No.717842720
>>717819548
Slav here. We ENJOY killing each other.
Anonymous No.717842779
>>717840832
Czechia was also strong, especailly early compared to Poland/Hungary. Russia didn't exist in those times medieval Rus was not Russia
Anonymous No.717842980 >>717843813
>>717820715
I can understand Czechs but Poles? Normal? The alcoholic tranny nation?
Anonymous No.717843538 >>717844564
>>717825452
>It's as strange as having a country full of pitch black sub saharan Africans and they all speak Irish or some shit.
You haven't been to Ireland recently I presume?
Anonymous No.717843813
>>717842980
You actually believe those memes made by americans?
We don't drink more than other Euros. In Czechia and Germany they automatically serve you beer with your meal. If you call Poles alcoholics then Czechs have already died from liver failure.
Anonymous No.717844171
>>717842692
Central Asia, like Khazars, Bulgars, Hungarians.
Anonymous No.717844564
>>717843538
I didn't realize the Somalis in Ireland were hardcore Celtic revivalists.
Anonymous No.717844934 >>717845051 >>717845676
>>717827293
>surrounded by mystery meat turkoslavs for 2000 years
>pvrest rvman blvd
>just ignore the defining article at the end of nouns or any inscriptions before 1860
Anonymous No.717845051
>>717844934
Never ask a woman her age
Or a Romanian how they say "yes" in their language
Anonymous No.717845676
>>717844934
Turks are whiter than Slavs.
Anonymous No.717845902
>>717819548
You just made some Polish person see red
Anonymous No.717846413 >>717848917
>>717820715
Being butthurt isn't "normal."
Anonymous No.717847693
>>717819548
Nobody has ever willingly united to form a super state.

India was until the end of the Raj was a collection of princely states and kingdoms. And even then the Kingdom of Kashmir was forced to be absorbed into India only cause it would rather be controlled by Hindu jeets than Pakistani Jeets. And Pakistani jeets in the East said fuck off to the west and became what is Bangladesh

China had regularly had to conquer other kingdoms. And even then it was a minority ruling the majority like the Manchu and Mongol dynasties ruling over the Han.


Superstates are unnatural. If anything Balkanization is the most orderly and natural way of things.
Anonymous No.717848903
>>717819756
Basques are just spaniards in denial. Yes the blood relation is forced upon them from being raped and is barely there but they should still give up their sovereignty and join my fictional spanish tribe so I feel special.
Anonymous No.717848917
>>717846413
Imagine saying this on /v/ of all places.
Anonymous No.717850090
>>717842594
>Yugoslavia
Well, it was a nation, and it was united for some time. The extent to which it was successful was a different story.
>Do you really think Belarus would've tried to join the EU if not for Russia
Yes? The US and EU would've been in Belarus like a bullet if Russia didn't assert its claim to Belarus in time. They tried several times to usurp Lukashenko and each time has failed.
>Ukraine
Russia has waged a war of attrition ever since the Kherson counteroffensive by the Ukrainians with the end goal of depleting Ukraine's manpower reserves and we are beginning to see the fruits of Russia's patience with the Pokrovsk offensive. What kind of nation do you think Ukraine will be when half of its population has fled, and thousands have been killed in a nation with an already crippling TFR? Not to mention years of destroyed infrastructure. And why do you think Putin flatly ignores Trump's diplomatic overtures? He's winning, he will end this war on his terms. The endgoal being a, at the very least, neutered Ukraine that can pose zero threat to Russia, and seizure of the Novorossiya area.
Anonymous No.717850706
>>717840983
And Czechia much worse off.
They've basically gotten rid of the worse part in the old West vs East / North vs South divide that's a part of nearly every country out there. They're better off for it.