Thread 717848149

Have recent failures surpassed it?

concordia

>>717848149 (OP)
Oh god yeah. I don't even think you could put TOR in the top ten of biggest bombs anymore.

>>717848290
holy fuck it's perfect

>>717848149 (OP)
This is pretty comical in hindsight given that the game is still running and getting expansions to this day.

TOR still made its money back eventually.
Concord threw $500M into a bonfire.

>>717848149 (OP)
In terms of actual failure? Concord has it beat by a country mile.
In terms of everything surrounding it? No. tortanic wasn't even a commercial failure

>>717848565
It was initially a commercial failure at launch, but after they switched to the F2P model it slowly became one of the most profitable MMOs on the market.

>>717848149 (OP)
>TOR flopping was so fun! I wish more games flopped!
>fast forward to today
>every game is a flop
Anons I am so SO sorry for making that wish.

Concord, Unknown 9, Pretty sure way back Kingdoms of Amalur beat it too by nearly bankrupting Rhode Island.

>>717849027
>Unknown 9
never even heard of this

>>717849027
>here's your completely not out of touch exec's idea of a multimedia franchise

>>717849027
Trying to make a multimedia universe around an IP absolutely no one has heard of or cares about was an interesting move.

cybertranny

>>717848149 (OP)
Yes.

>>717849027
>Kingdoms of Amalur beat it too by nearly bankrupting Rhode Island.
the what

>>717849346
Concord did the same thing.

Delusion can be the only explanation.

>>717849826
IIRC, the studio behind it was some passion project funded by a MLB guy with millions to burn. The MLB guy was from Rhode Island and somehow got the state to invest millions as well. I think the 'bankrupted the state' part is bullshit, though; they just lost the money and it was a big embarrassment, but the cash came from a tech incubator or arts endowment or something.

>>717849961
The thing is like the other fails the anon posted they were banking on a universe too and were concurrently making an MMO of the Amalur universe too.

>Tortanic thread
OH YOU NETTA BEREEV THAT'S A BANNU
END OF RINE
---------RINE END HEAH

>>717849027
>In January 2025, Bandai-Namco Europe CCO Herve Hoerdt released a statement on the reception of the game saying that there will be no sequels for the game. The statement said in part "This decision correlates directly with the failure of the studio's ambitious and courageous first project, a new IP with a rich transmedia universe," and "The performance of the release didn't come near the company expectations, after numerous timeline adjustments and investments, both financially and other, and didn't warrant any further exploration in this universe."
What's really funny is that the roadmap is from a year ago. All of this shit got released and you can see how little of a shit people gave to it. Those webseries episodes have only two episodes that broke past one thousand views, and none went over five thousand.

>>717848149 (OP)
Considering its still alive over a decade later, yeah plenty have. Tortanic is such a stupid fucking forced meme

>>717849784
the IRL concord was murdered by the death cruiser 10
she deserved better

>>717848351
>>717848290
You should always be afraid to be on a vessel called Concord... anything really. I mean the TCS Concordia crashed in Wing Commander 3 too and everyone DIED.

Marathon easily. Destiny 2 soon probably seeing as the fucking retards at Bungie literally can't get ahold of the key piece of evidence that'll get them out of a lawsuit because they can no longer access it

>>717849027
>Unknown 9
I've seen indie games made in MS Paint get more reviews than this, fucking LMAO

>>717849873
Nah it sounds to me more like fraud against the investors. Make them think you're making some huge multi-billion dollar franchise, get the money, then make the bare minimum and gtfo

>>717850187
>>717850646
Its so confusing to see just how high they were.

>>717848149 (OP)
This image is labeled incorrectly. The iceberg should read "The Old Republic", and the ship should read "/v/'s post quality".

>>717850874
My favorite kind of modern hubris is this kind of thing. Companies going nuts about how big their franchise is going to be and watching it implode on the first release.

>>717848149 (OP)
In retrospect, ToR was small potatoes compared to Concord, Avowed or Starfield.

>>717848290
concord was a supernova and died too quickly. we had nonstop TORtanic threads for literally over a year with new material almost every day

>>717850646
>Hartroona, you must enter the dimension of the flappy foldy folds and discover your true pronouns!

>>717848149 (OP)
ToR is boring as shit

After all the mockery and defense of it

Its neither good nor bad
its just bleh

>>717849027
Kingdoms of Amalur was decent and only failed because having a baseball pitcher in charge of developing an MMO resulted in a massively inflated budget

>>717848149 (OP)
Yes, Tortanic didn't even sink, it rammed through the iceberg by throwing all the Irish passengers and crew into in the furnace

>>717853265
this. tor is still up and lost of people have played it, and it seems they fixed a lot wrong with it. meanwhile concord was shut down a week after launch.

>>717851019
Starfield did well financially tho

>>717850874
>5 games over 10 years
>each game taking 4 years to make
Now, I'm no mathematician, but uhhh

cybertranny and shitfield

>>717851316
Kek I didn't even know that bit about an MLB pitcher founding the Amalur dev team.
Didn't know they eventually went bankrupt either.

>>717850874
>transmedia content
>you need to buy novels, watch youtube videos, and listen to developer narrations just to understand what's going on, people are going to consume everything!

>>717854626
>Cyberpunk
Not anywhere near a flop. It made back its entire development budget in a week or two after launch. The media hype around how 'broken' things were was just content creator vultures trying to boost their numbers. It had problems that first two months, but nothing anywhere near as bad as people pretended. (Unless you were on PS4/XB1, in which case the game shouldn't have been released.)

t. played and beat it at launch on PC.

>starfield
Oh, that's a dogshit flop for damn sure, though.

>>717848149 (OP)
concord, anthem, veilguard, forspoken, unknown 9, starfield, skull & bones, avowed, marathon, immortals of aveum.

anon where the fuck have you been? SWTOR was a big deal back in the day because it was an age where games rarely failed, but we live in the age of failed games. an age where it's easier to expect something to flop than to succeed. the tortanic is a fucking rowboat by comparison to the shit we see these days.

>>717849873
I still find it hilarious the devs thought we'd care about monthly reddit/MCU humor "lore videos" or about the clearly paid off episode for that Amazon gaming series. fucking incredible how Sony thought this shit would rival star wars

>>717848290
kek

>>717856045
The 'Concord is our Star Wars!' is beyond delusion, honestly. It would have to be some kind of sitcom situation where there's one boss, maybe Hulst, who is so crazy out of touch as to think Concord is this amazing thing, and the only people around him are sycophants who didn't dare breathe a word against that narrative.

Otherwise, I simply cannot fathom how nobody in Sony gaming's leadership structure saw Concord and didn't say 'Hey, uh.. you sure we should be spending $300m+ on this?'

>>717848149 (OP)
Concord is likely the biggest singular media failure of all time and.

>>717850792
Nah, this kind of domino toppling doesn't happen from minimum effort.

Hyenas
>spend BILLIONs in development
>completely abandon it in alpha because the product is a fucking trainwreck

>>717848149 (OP)
Concord easily

>>717856313
saw a video a while ago about how Hollywood and a lot of media fans are in love with guardians of the galaxy tier humor. execs are so out of touch they are behind years after fads die, which is why concord was so well received by their ilk

>>717854664
>let's just skip ahead to the stage of MCU where everyone checked the fuck out

>>717848149 (OP)
no, despite this boards best efforts at turning every new game in the last 15 years into another TORtanic

>>717856765
Kek I remember this
>join the -ACK

>>717857153
>Guardians humor
But none of the Concord shorts I've ever seen were funny. It was like anti-comedy.

Maybe it was a Traxx situation where one boomer exec just thinks it's the funniest shit in the world and nobody is allowed to disagree with him.

>>717856765
>billions
Untrue, unfortunately. Hyenas was, maybe, $200m before Sega pulled the plug. The whole 'billions' thing was for a multigame program Sega was running across a bunch of different studios. Hyenas was just one of those games.

Concord is still the largest flop in media history in terms of what they spent vs. what they got.

>>717850187
Want something else funny? The game was released in Oct 2024. The Wikipedia page was made... Jan 2025.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Unknown_9:_Awakening&oldid=1271499822

The TOR meme is cringe and has been obsolete for a while now.

>>717848149 (OP)
ENTER
>first "AAAA" game
>estimated cost to be approximately 2 Concords
>flopped so hard it never even registered in anyone's mind and no one even bothered to record its tragic crash and fall
>it's still somehow going

>>717850874
1. Do you want to know the meta plot? They're Jedi. That's basically it. Some people are born and they're basically Jedi with magic powers, who can body hop, and they fight battles taking place over generations. That's really all the story amounts to.

2. I suspect the entire scheme was to create a studio to bait some idiot publisher like Sony or Namco to buy them out, by making them look like such a sure fire hit since it's an Assassin's Creed clone and they hyped up the studio's transmedia and motion capture capabilities. Namco did end up buying them. But the game was a dud, meaning like 7 years of work was for naught, Namco is left owning a studio that's worthless, but the two founders made off like bandits.

3. Sweet baby got their start there. They worked as writers for the series in the dev phase, founded Sweet baby, then got Sweet baby to work on it. So they double dipped.

>>717850646
so is this crap super boring, repetitive or a buggy mess? all I remember is the videos shitting on it for having a female pajeet as the lead

>>717857731
>estimated cost to be approximately 2 Concords

I have to call bullshit on that. They kept making Skull and Bones because they received a grant from the Singaporean government and were thus contractually obligated to finish and release the game.

But if the development costs were so high, at a certain point it would be more economical to just reimburse the Singaporean government and cancel the game.

>>717856723
I still remember/v/ hyping up that state of play. I tuned out until the afternoon then I saw tons of posts here and on Reddit asking about all the hate this game got. I couldn't believe how fucking lame this shit was and how late to the OW clone party they were.

the weeks leading to release up until Sony bent the knee were amongst the best shitposting we've had

>>717856765
we were ROBBED, we could have gotten years worth of memes and shitposts

>>717848671
Blizzdrones are to blame for this and you retards fell for it.

>>717857731
Skull and Bones was estimated at $250m-$300m, I think.

It was just a long con like >>717858143 said. Ubisoft would send its execs on vacations to Singapore using dev funds (allegedly).

>>717858850
There's still FairGame$ to look forward to, anon.

>>717848149 (OP)
Not as big as some of the others, but nobody mentioned it yet: the whole Mindseye shit.

It was supposed to be this "roblox for adults", an engine that would let people make their own ugly ass uninspired UEslop asset flips.
But it all bombed so hard that they made their own asset flip and sold it separately as its own game (which also flopped).

>>717859085
>There's still FairGame$ to look forward to, anon
oh shit you're right, I completely forgot about this one. hope Sony doesn't pull the plug early

>>717861032
I could see them nuking it in the womb if Marathon comes out first and is a huge flop.

There's literally nothing FairGame$ can do to save itself, since it's just a more embarrassing version of Hyenas. (Although that 'steal back African artifacts' game on EGS is probably more embarrassing than either.)

>>717859034
That pic is inaccurate af, there should be an entire graveyard of ships

>>717863696
It's only journos and redditors who post that pic nowadays

>>717863696
>>717863837
>t. tortanicniggers
next it will be shazamposting and wojakniggedry since you soiteens doesn't play videogames

>>717863935
Hi journo/redditor

>>717848149 (OP)
Pretty sure Concord is the biggest failure in gaming, surpassing ET

>>717850646
That's the most generic plot description I've ever seen

>>717863965
Projecting this hard sharteen?

>>717850646
legit read that as Dimension of the Foid

>>717864046
Bye journo/redditor

>>717850646
Why did the game fail again? Completely forgot about it until you posted it I guess. Was it with the game with the nigger wizard protagonist that nobody hat interest in? That was so fucking random.

>>717864432
>why did the game fail
The real question is why would it ever succeed? Literally what did it have going for it?

>>717848290
Coincidences like this makes me fear that whole Kek Meme God/Magic thing /r9k/ went nuts over a couple years back might not be total bullshit.

>>717848290
don't forget concorde

>>717864502
Ah fuck, I remember now. It was the game with the woman that can slow down time and jump into other people's bodies. That was just doomed from the get go. Mistook it for that Korean game that bombed just as much.
There was no way anyone would have had interest in that style of game. If I remember correctly, the trailers were really unappealing.

>>717864729
It's just the classic "the whole thing rests on the writing, and the writing is dogshit" situation

>>717850485
yeah, check out air france flight 4590

>>717848149 (OP)
I don't get /v/ cheering on this game not being successful. It's not like it was woke.

>>717864818
Have you considered games can be good / bad, and not just woke / not woke?

>>717864804
LMAO I completely forgot about that one. Man that name is cursed.

>>717864016
>biggest failure in gaming
I think it's the single biggest failure in media (films/tv/movies/etc) by losing $400m.

You have to get into the realm of actual business failures (Time Warner/AOL, ENRON,etc) to see bigger, more expensive fuckups.

>>717864432
If it's the game I'm thinking of, it was a combination of the following:
>no marketing campaign
>brand new IP by no-name studio (but published by semi-name Bandai-Namco)
>pojeeta as main character with bland DEI-friendly cast
>no new or interesting game mechanics of any kind

Most of the /v/ threads were 'Huh? When did it come out?', if that tells you anything.

>>717864818
At the time, it TOR was a huge fucking mess and a prime example of EA being cunty scumbags. The game was glitchy and buggy, and EA was doing shit like 'accidentally' disabling the unsubscribe function and blaming website errors to stem the bleeding. /v/ was right to shit all over it. And it was circa 2012. Woke wasn't a thing yet.

>>717864804
¿Cuál es el nivel de poder de vuelo 4590 de Air France?

>>717848149 (OP)
Tortanic was just the beginning.

What we didn't realize is that SWTOR wasn't the ship, it was a passenger, the entire industry is sinking due to bad management and bad investments

>>717864974
its in your image, D

>>717865083
Are they sinking, though?
I'm starting to think that us consumers buying their shitty games isn't how they make their money. They seem to be more in the "let's scam these millionaire investors" business

>>717865085
>>717864974
>>717864804
That concorde crash was caused by a death cruiser 10 leaving metal all over the runway

>>717865085
Oh fuck.

>>717864432
this is unknown 9 (webm)
>Was it with the game with the nigger wizard protagonist that nobody hat interest in? That was so fucking random.
no that was forspoken, which is now forever known as flopspoken

>>717848149 (OP)
>>717865083
Yeah, it's funny how we still keep TORtanic around moreso out of tradition but as the years went on, way worse industry blunders have occured.
TORtanic has basically become the measuring unit in which all future failures are measured on like hurricane catagory ratings.

How many units of TORtanic was Concord? Like a 6?

>>717865449
if 1 TORtanic is a notable failure, then yes, I'd put Concord on around a 6 on the sphincter scale

>>717865449
TORtanic still exists and somehow has continued to over the past decade, so yeah - a 6 seems reasonable I think.

>>717865183
Yeah but apparently there were some goldberg-machine tier shenanigans going on. The wheel started flipping out, its shrapnel hit something just right, etc etc

Just terrible luck for everyone involved

>>717865316
What the fuck is with the cinematography in this

>>717865316
>this entire webm
Yeah it's 100% investor fraud

>>717865596
Yes, the DC10 metal popped a tyre, which at 200 mph shredded, a piece then punctured the fuel tank right next to the engine, so the whole thing caught fire

I'm tired of you faggots who want everything to flop.

>>717865623
It looks like it was animated by the person who did the shitty Bioware Dragon Age/Star Wars cutscene animations of the people fighting. It looks awful jesus.

>>717865772
Then leave.

>>717865596
iirc:
>DC-10 loses a bit of metal from the engine covering on the runway during takeoff
>concord is next flight
>runs over that bit of metal, causing the tyre to shred
>the tyre, spinning fast during takeoff, splits off the wheel, hits the fuselage
>the fuselage cracks, leaks fuel, then ignites
>because of the tyre damage, they cant raise the landing gear either
>plane takes off, on fire, with landing gear down
>cant get enough speed to remain airborne
>crashes into a hotel
>everyone ded

>>717865721
>>717865960
For the hotel dudes it was some final destination shit

>>717865960
Holy shit, Hotel people never even had a chance to evacuate, just boom ded.

this was some wild shit

>>717850646
>the all-time peak concurrent player count on the platform was just 285
Fuck me, and they made novels and podcasts and stuff for this?

is TOR fun
i have never seen star wars, i just want an mmo to play

>>717866183
investor
fraud

>>717866106
What dogshit was that from, again?

>>717866106
Is this the same pajeeta game already posted?

>>717866194
If you enjoy bioware storytelling, sure. The gameplay is the most generic discount WoW you can imagine.

>>717866291
I mean, yeah. Everryone takes a paycheck and expenses, shit out a low budget turd, then you all take a fat redundancy check

>>717866319
>>717866321
forspoken, something square enix shat out and regretted immediately

>>717863696
Silicon Bottom Sound

>>717848149 (OP)
I kinda want to say the Callisto Protocol, there's no way that turd made its money back

>>717866596
Going by the TORtanic scale >>717865449
Forespoken is like a Catagory 4.

>>717864432
Because it doesn't look interesting.

Devs have completely lost touch with what gamers think is cool.

At that point, it doesn't even matter if the game is well-made mechanically cause nobody's even gonna try it.

>>717866736
i agree with that analysis

>>717864432
I had interest in it. (Until the reviews came out)

lets not forget Hyenas, which didn't even release, and still cost Sega/Creative Assembly around $100m

>>717867049
The most surprising thing about Hyenas is that Sega exhibited better business sense with it than Sony did with Concord and cancelled it before release.

>>717867049
They were smart enough to cancel it and stop burning money.

>>717867168
Triple A budget's have become so derangedly bloated many executives and devs sucker themselves into sunk cost fallacy.

>>717867049
>Start making this in 2017, to copy PUBG and destiny
>Cancel in 2023
Why are these retards producing games so slowly? They end up producing dated shit almost a decade too late

>>717867298
In Concord's case, it really sounds like all roads of the failure lead back to Herman Hulst, who sincerely believed in the project. Maybe it was some kind of corporate politics thing where if the game didn't come out, he'd get fired or demoted or whatever. Not that releasing a game that flops is much nobler than cancelling a game you know is going to flop. Marathon feels like it's in that position right now, but there's Bungie/Sony contract stuff in the mix.

All that wasted money. It's astounding.

>>717850987
>>717850874
>>717850187
Is this what late stage capitalism is?

>>717868134
Concord's failure is one that has to be studied. It is geniunly intresting how so many people put every single egg on this basket, convinced it was going to be the next big sci-fi IP to compete with the likes of Star Wars, Star Trek, Warhammer,etc.

And it was this. Not a single person working on the game with actual power or infliunce looked at this and said "Wait".

>>717868490
Its still hard to look at that image and really take it in. The design decisions for each and every characters are confounding. The even gave the closest thing to a generic white dude (the latino?) on top left but gave him the most fucking boring expression on his face and laziest rig.

>>717868134
Keep in mind, it started dev almost right after Overwatch and GOTG were out. It was trying to bank on trends and took way too long to capitalize.

>>717868490
The character designs are just so schizophrenic and mismatched.
There must have been mega groupthink at the developer, or shitty management shutting down and criticism/concern internally

>>717868956
That just excuses the gameplay.

Not the terrible visual style, the terrible writing, or the terrible everything else.

>>717864804
DC-10's fault, McDonnell Douglas will pay for their crimes

>>717850987
I mean, can you blame them?
Do you really think someone like Lucas thought Star Wars would have like a side spin-off TV show showing what dumb inconsequential thing Obi-wan did like 5 years before the movie he was making. Or a movie why Han Solo travels around with an alien bigfoot stand-in in a giant ship, no of course not, but there he is and now he's a billionare while people still argue about Harrison Ford or some dumb plastic alien shooting first.

>>717869094
Writing easily is aping GOTG though. Visually, they were aiming allegedly for a grungy retro scifi style, like Moebius + 70s or something but it clearly doesn't work with the realistic aesthetic and probably should have aimed for stylization. No idea on the gameplay.

>>717848149 (OP)
/v/

>>717868490
that character with a johnny cab on her head

>>717868889
So I THINK what they wanted to do was like a mix of
>Old sci fi pulp fiction television of 40's/50's where everything is super cheap- basically "Cardboard Punk"
and also
>Make a wide varied look of characters of all shape and sizes that doesn't necessarily match what you'd expect as a message of "Anyone can be anyone"!
The first part failed because it is aping off an already sorta ugly aesthic and putting it under a hyperrealistyic artstyle making the art deisgn even more jarring.

And the second fails because it goes against the number one rule of character design in vidya in which the characters appearence should immediately dictate their roles in gameplay and personality (i.e. the Valve/TF2 silhouette test every ameatur artist has seen just to learn "How to Draw Vidya 101") Now you CAN do the whole juxtopisition between character design and role SOMETIMES like when Tekken made a fatguy be a speedy/rush character as a means of subversion of expectations but not LITERALLY HALF THE CAST.

>>717848149 (OP)
TOR is a decade old and been turning a profit for years.
How was it a failure?
It had a rough launch but recovered just fine.

>>717869584
Yes. Theres like a cognitive dissonance looking at them all together.

>>717848149 (OP)
Against all odds TOR is still alive and there's even faggots on here who play and enjoy it. It was never a Titanic.

>>717864432
Nothing about the game looked good.

Its DEI slop with the same dogshit anti-colonial storyline that everyone is just plain fucking tired of hearing over and over and over again, written by people whos only experience with hardship in their lives is that barista at starbucks got their doordash order wrong

And of course they blew the entire budget on marketing this dogshit instead of actually developing a video game, which is a common problem across the entire industry that more money goes into contracting trailers and cinematics than actual game development.

>>717850646
>you are Hatroona

>>717864973
>I think it's the single biggest failure in media (films/tv/movies/etc) by losing $400m.
I feel like there have been bigger movies that have bombed recently.

>>717866106
>be luminous
>manage to release FFXV after being thrown into the middle of development after nomura fucked it beyond saving
>your reward for making one of the highest selling FF games in history is to be forced to work on this DEI blackrock funded pajeeta niggerloving shit that immediately kills your studio

crystalbros deserved better

>>717851068
That's because people actually made OC back then unlike now

>>717869979
There's a running list on Wikipedia with the biggest bombs and how much they lost at the time and adjusted for inflation. Nothing there is coming close to $400m.

>>717869870
>anti-colonial storyline
Is it? I got the impression it was just YA secret society bs.

>>717851068
Lawbreakers flopping was some of the best times I had on this board.

>>717857629
It's cringe because it made trannies want to try to force every single high profile game to be the next tortanic

Wasn't there some MMO called wild star or something that was in development for like 5 years and touted to be the next world of warcraft and died after life a month? The problem with this games add a service shit isn't just that it's predatory, but also that people don't want to pay monthly for multiple functionally similar games. They'll probably just stick to whichever one has the most players.

>>717870178
I'm pretty sure The Rings of Power flopping was a much more severe financial drain than Concord given that each episode cost about 60 million to film. In total the show cost about a billion.

>>717850531
Qrd on this? Did Bungie lose some code to the game? Only played Destiny 1 a decade ago so have no idea what Bungie is up to nowadays.

People still pretending KOTOR failed?

>>717871492
Im reading in in Reddit right now and apparently they've been accused of plagiarizing some plot elements from a sci-fi book and Bungie can't dispute it because the content "doesn't exist" anymore due to them vaulting it. Or something like that I dunno. Apparently they gave the judge a bunch of links to some wiki and said it isn't good enough. So because the expansions they made don't exist anymore they can't prove they didn't plagiarize it.

>>717871372
I don't think there's ever really a way to know with Amazon shows since they don't have to publish direct numbers. It's probably damn close, though.

>>717871492
Here's what happened:
>Bungie uses a custom engine for D2
>engine is a piece of shit to work in and it gets slower with more content in the game
>after so many expacs, the engine starts to shit itself, so Bungie has to physically cut existing content so they can release new DLCs (this is the content vaulting thing)
>some no name writer tries suing Bungie saying they ripped them off by stealing the story for D2's launch campaign, The Red War
>Bungie tries to have it thrown out in court and cites Youtubes and wiki articles to say the story is there
>judge says fuck that, show it in engine
>Bungie says they can't, because the content can't really be put back in without removing the newer DLC and other reasons
>everyone laughs at how stupid this is

I did not know this game even existed until I got it for free with my new CPU

>>717871606
KOTOR? no both 1 and 2 are classics. TOR on the other hand is largely a mid MMO, barely any better than ESO

>>717848290
You mean the Concorde?

>>717851068
2024 was truly the year of vidya flops

>>717869723
you had to be there

>>717848149 (OP)
/v/ craves the flop of a new big game too badly that it sucks the fun out of it when big games do flop

>>717873209
2025 is wrapping up the same way

Yes, there is OP right here >>717848149 (OP) for example

>>717873212
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——————————
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>>717850646
all of that synopsis reads like shit i played before but now gay, trans, and black

>>717871492
bungie, in their wisdom, decided to vault 80% of launch destiny 2 content and its completely inaccessible even to the devs because they kept building on top of the spaghetti code that came out of the vaulting thing they did, so now they can't literally make a playable version of that content anymore

Concord
Dustborn
That FPS with 2 niggers
That weird southern style RPG with a negress

>>717864974
tldr on el problemo

>>717874573
I always thought this hair was a meme and then I went back to school to get my masters and like 3 out of every 4 Gen Z dudes I see has this shit.

WE ARE THE DUSTBORN, WE ARE THE NEW PORN!

>>717851068
kinda like how nobody remembers the costa concordia

>>717849961
>>717849826
>>717851316

Rhode Islander here. This is true. We were already closed to being fucked before Curt Schilling came along. But here's the deal. RI was already losing jobs and money. If you needed a job you needed to go to Conn. or Mass. But the Gov in Providence thought that a big name like Curt, creating a game studio in the main city would attract revenue and jobs back into the state. So it was heavily backed with a $75 Million dollars loan as a Hail Mary to move people out of state to RI for their job.

The game didn't break the $2 Million it needed to break even. So the state had to pay for all of the unemployment and Studio 38 filed for bankruptcy and defaulted on the loan repayment to the state.

I have a grudge against that game company.

>>717875193
The only reason I remember it is because I'm borderline insane and enjoy reading about mass casualty events. I read about JAL123 and Tenerife before flying commercial to calm me down because "if something happens its not going to be that bad."
Also it was funny how he crashed because he was trying to impress some model and how the captain of another ship told him in Italian "get back on board, fucker"

>>717868490
i mean theyre all shit but what the fuck

>>717859034
i'm glad blizztroons got their just desserts in the end

Ok guys, why tf did Concord flop, but Marvel rivals succeeded? People were making fun of Concord for being 8 years too late to the hero shooter genre, but Rivals did really well? Was it really just the brand recognition and coom factor?

>>717876073
There are a lot of ways you could flesh out the answer here but there's one simple underlying fact.

One game was shit
One game was pretty good.

>>717868490
Not a furry, but I would do IT-Z in a heartbeat.

>>717876073
> People were making fun of Concord for being 8 years too late to the hero shooter genre,
This is a dumb thing to say. The biggest thing that held back hero shooters was OW having a chokehold on the genre for so many years, and lo and behold people were fucking sick of it, OW2, and Blizzard in general by the time it came out. The Marvel name and coom were key factors as well, but people at the end of the dau wanted to just have fun playing a HS again.

Concord failed for a fuckton of reasons but the biggest obvious three were the ugly character designs in a genre where wanting to play as said characters is mandatory, mediocro gameplay, and a 30+ dollar price tag for a genre that had determined being F2P was the optimal decision years ago.

>>717872573
I really tried to give this game a chance. 73 minutes were my limit.

>>717876397
still in the refund window at least

>>717873212
Him and Hamburger Helper were the most hilarious shit back then

>>717876314
I don’t play those type of games, what was good about one and shit about the other?

>>717849027
>white woman as as front face of the game
isn't the MC an ugly indian woman lel
And note how everyone there is also white, everys singlke one

>>717876847
Game's mc is Netflix Yennefer.

>>717876647
I could write an essay but don't really care to. In a hero shooter, it is essential to have mechanically and aesthetically distinct heroes who FEEL different to play. TF2 is a mechanically very simple game, but because of strong design decisons, nails making its mercs all feel very distinct from eachother(even when some share weapons). Concord completely failed in this regard, due to many subtle and not so subtle design decisions, characters felt samey and lacking in depth. Marvel rivals nailed giving each character a distinct identity backed by strong mechanics.
I'm not gonna break down character by character why thats the case, thats too much effort for an anonymous basket weaving forum.

>>717876073
Concord made itself as unappealing to look at and play as possible, and once news got out about its abysmal player numbers, people became more interested in watching it flop than playing it. Marvel had the IP advantage and the fact that it looked great and felt fun to play.

Why spend $100 million on one game when you could instead make 20 games for $5 million each?

>>717877405
Because your average developer isn't competent enough to operate in small teams anymore.

>>717876073
Established IP. Oh and also the female characters all look pretty fuckable, which it turns out is in fact pretty important if you want your hero shooter to succeed.

Oh and it was also f2p which for some baffling reason Concord wasn't. Seriously who is charging money for a game when the genre is THIS fucking saturated?

>>717876073
one is soulless shit made to appeal to everyone (no-one)
one is made purely to appeal to the largest demographic of gamers, straight men

>>717875373
I really liked the character progression, how the passives fit so well with playstyles you have in mind.
the game failed cause the quests, while having cool lore, all were mmo fetch quests and combat was the same single combo over and over again.
>but muh tax money
I enjoyed it, pay again.

>>717876498
>hamburger helper
i really wish i hadnt remembered her

Pretty sure Fallout 76 tops it. 16 times the detail. The whole canvas bag situation. The mask from the collector's edition being toxic to wear. The fake plastic bottle of nuka cola they sold. Charging $100 for premium subscription. That thing had news stories going on for it for weeks-on-end for a while.

>>717878362
Hindsight's a bitch, we didn't know how good we had it before. She said dumb stuff, but the stuff she wrote was mostly alright or even liked. Nobody can say the same about modern Bioware.

>game is called a failure by wow trannies who got filtered
>is still better than wow, doesn’t need gayass LBTQ addons to play the game
>pvp is better
>better stories
>flying PvP
>housing
>equal raids and dungeons
>game is one of the most successful MMOs
V is never right, about anything period.

>>717878515
for me, she signals the beginning of the end, not just of bioware, but AAA gaming in general

>>717869723
It had the FIRST rough launch

>>717878362
You could summarise this as someone who failed to get into movie or tv scriptwriting.

>>717878362
I remember the image comparing her to the really pretty writer on Guild Wars 2 before it came out and we all realized that story was dogshit too lol

>>717848290
KEK

>>717850646
That first sentence is fucking vile. Good Lord.

>>717848379
TOR went on to become the single most profitable thing bioware has ever done.

>>717877001
It was funny how she didnt go from ugly to pretty and stayed ugly and deformed and only got rid of the hunchback. do you think at any point they planned to change the actor when yen learned magic and beautified herself

>>717878923
>/v/ was wrong in 2011 because they fixed the game over years of patches

>>717878362
You know, I rather have an industry full of people like her who simply catered to people who played games differently from me than an industry full of people who hate video games

>>717849873
>Delusion can be the only explanation.
Go find and watch pic related. Its all about the absolute cluster fuck that happens when you have infinity money and a room full of assholes with no clue what they're doing throwing their input in.
Its focusing on the development of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle
>A troop transport that can't carry troops, a reconnaissance vehicle that's too conspicuous to do reconnaissance. And a quasi-tank that has less armor than a snow-blower, but carries enough ammo to take out half of D.C.

>>717875017
Dude working at the airport hijacks plane over being fired, takes the wheel and crashes killing everyone

>>717864974
Who is tarado?

>>717879541
For me, its FedEx 705, the most patrician of the failures

>>717879485
The thing everyone got wrong about hamburger helper is that she was a writer, not a game designer.
She's not in charge of gameplay decisions, and not really interested in gameplay mechanics, which is fine, because when you go to a mechanic, it doesn't really matter what his opinion on the sudan is, or the latest experimental medical procedures out of brussels, I just care if he knows how to fix my shit.

>>717879658
I'm going to commit armed robbery and blast my way out, and if I get caught I'm going to say I was trying to commit suicide.
Boys will be boys.

>>717879719
>She's not in charge of gameplay decisions
But apparently she has enough influence to push the animation department into inserting loads of gay sex.

>>717875120
Yup, you better recognize

>>717848351
>get the fuck back on board
kino

>>717878362
Who the fuck quotes Rowling and Stephanie Meyers as major literary inspirations? I mean Rowling is one thing but those Twilight books are just Mormon pornography.

>>717878362
I never understood why this was such an issue. I get it, IF she were a gameplay designer or something but her job literally was only to write.

>>717880065
Millennials

>>717879343
>only TOR received patches
>no other game receives patches

ding dong bannu

>>717868490
these look like joke characters from one piece

>>717879524
No, the Pentagon wars is a bunch of bullshit where they twist every fact and event to seem as absurd as possible.

>>717848645
>brown granny
>dyke
>brown
>black granny
>underaged korean
I recall Overwatch having a more diverse cast. Didn't they used to have some men and a monkey?

>>717880362
My old job I had to work with the DoD.
Government bureaucracy is more retarded than you can possibly imagine.

>>717880368
I think his names was James McCree

>>717848290
Kek. I know the failed plane comparison but fuck did it never occur to me to compare it to the ship disaster

>>717880354
Mooka Shaka paka
Twooli don bess
Chawah

>>717850646
they're mostly from free GPU codes as well

>>717880130
Millenials shat all over Twilight though. Like what serious writer is getting their inspiration from fucking Twilight of all things? The book where the guy who loses gets the main girl's baby to groom as a consolation prize.

>>717880125
>>717879485
the best videogames are written by gamers who understand how the story will work within the mechanics of the game
your kind of thinking will result in nothing but more slop
also you seem to have missed the part where she mentioned stories written by "old white guys" are all bad

>>717880568
>Millenials shat all over Twilight though
Millennial MEN shat all over Twilight, Millennial women ate that shit up.

>>717850482
it was the airports fault, planes lose things suprisingly often (usually bits of tire) they're supposed to run a truck down the runway after a takeoff to check for debris. They were rushing flights to make up for an earlier delay and hadn't checked the runway for nearly half an hour before concorde took off

>>717880598
Funny you posted him, since the only thing of real note he's done recently is he went on to write for that Immortals of Aveum flop.

>>717880598
>cuckbride
Morrowind is just Tatooine: Fantasy Edition, and the writing is about on par

>>717880625
I went to highschool anon, the majority of greasy nerd girls shat all over Twilight then too. Even the few women I talk to now shit all over Twilight to this day.

>>717868208
>shit nobody cares about fails as the free market decides it's not worth succeeding
Seems like capitalism is working as intended.

>>717880852
Your experience was atypical

>>717880354
END OF RINE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9C9OKMyZng
RINE END HERE

>>717880413
Im sure, but the Bradley is a success story.
>A troop transport that can't carry troops
Like much of the world, the US was reorganizing infantry to work in smaller squads. 6 guys backed up by a Bradley had far greater combat power than 10 backed by an M113.
>a reconnaissance vehicle that's too conspicuous to do reconnaissance
Pretty much complete nonsense, a vehicle being a couple feet higher makes no practical difference.
>And a quasi-tank that has less armor than a snow-blower
In the modern day anything thats not the frontal glacias of a MBT isn't going to stop any dedicated AT weapon, its largely about protecting against small caliber weapons and shrapnel.
>but carries enough ammo to take out half of D.C.
An IFV unable to engage enemy armor was basically worthless on the imagined combined arms battlefield

>>717875398
I vaguely heard of it years ago, but the IH video painted the full picture for me. It's still one of my favorites.

>>717848149 (OP)
TOR bounced back and is going strong to this day.
Concord was unmade, undone, rended from time. The most money turned into flashpaper. Burned bright, and then nothing left but the ether.
Pray /v/ is never right again.

>>717850531
Ehhhh, idk Marathon backed out of launching. Can't truly call it a flop till launch. Destiny will be fine, Sony would never allow it to die. genuinely hoping the Sony takeover slices the existing execs out of the picture for good, even if so I can just stop hearing about Pete Parsons cars on YouTube videos.

>>717870206
It's really a wonder that cliffy b hasn't killed himself yet

>>717871915
To be fair, the guy accusing has barely any ground to stand on. It's just that he may win purely because Bungie cannot boot the old game to defend themselves with, so he might just win by default, which is hilarious.

>>717861479
Isn't Sony in the process of absorbing Bungie as a full-on Playstation Studio or something right now? It seems like they're already preparing for the likelihood Marathon to maraflop. I don't think they can kill Fairgame$ in the womb though, not after putting their foot in their mouth bragging about the studio and game's development being female-led. That's going to be a PR disaster for them, even right now when the choppers are starting to get out of Woke.

>>717873634
End of rine

Tortanic was special back in the day
>No in game restrictions on were players could go, so high level players could just spawn camp fresh level one accounts with no penalty
>Entire menu systems broken for weeks so you couldn't even play the game
>Day one glitches that allowed level one accounts to solo the entire game.
>Had to wait hours to get into the game and then it would crash
>Unsubscribe wasn't an in game option. You had to email customer support to get a link to a custom URL to cancel your subscription
>Getting banned on the forum banned your account from playing in game
>EVERYONE that posted a complaint on the forum got banned
>END OF RINE

>>717848149 (OP)
Everything by Ubisoft.
Especially Skull and Bones.

>>717880598
>the best videogames are written by gamers who understand how the story will work within the mechanics of the game

I don't really like this kind of thinking. it seems like an excuse to dismiss writing as bad just because it goes over a word count with the excuse "games aren't about this"

>>717880568
Idk but I remember an anon posting some ratings for the Amazon page of Bram Stoker's Dracula and it was just women complaining that it was boring and they thought it would be more magical like Twilight.

Those people that decided it was a good idea to sink to the bottom of the ocean in that jank private sub

>>717881838
it was the fallout 76 of it's day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjyeCdd-dl8

>>717868490
I kinda want the big negress to ride me and smear me with her blue lipstick desu.

>>717848149 (OP)
tortanic was the funeral pyre dirge of the muhmorepugger genre, and good riddance to it!

>>717876073
>coom factor
People need to stop saying this as if people just want to jerk off. This "coom factor" is literally just appeal. People like looking at appealing and nice looking characters and reducing that to muh coom is being disingenuous.

>>717848290
Highly underrated.

>>717848671
i'm not

>>717881942
Ubisoft made Siege and have been clinging to it for years. It's slowly sinking with all the retard shit they've been pumping it full with.
They banned an alt I had for playing as the trans character and hanging myself off the side of the building with the rappel and spamming AAACKKK. Another Gamer oppressed. MONEY STOLEN

>>717882913
based

>>717865316
I liked Forclosure better

>>717849027
Avengers did irreparable damage to entertainment, I swear to god.

>>717864974
I wish I knew enough about airplane disasters to decipher this.

>>717884519
Cripple character was a cool idea tho

>>717890574
It doesnt help that its all in Spanish but start with Tenerife and just keep clicking Wiki links, you'll get it eventually.

>>717848149 (OP)
Did it really fail?
>Still running
>In an earnings call to investors in October 2019, Electronic Arts announced that Star Wars: The Old Republic was closing in on a billion dollars in lifetime revenue, making it a financial success based on the reported $200 million development budget.
Yeah the DING DONG BANNU memes are funny but compare it to something that died within a week (literally) >>717848290

>>717890720
Versus running costs?

>>717876073
Because people want to cosplay Luna Snow or Emma Frost.
Nobody wants to cosplay the Concord characters.