Say sorry.

>>717868554 (OP)
I'm sorry Tears of the Kingdom, you are better than Nuts and Bolts.

>>717868554 (OP)
Why was Gruntilda queer and bipoc-coded in this game?

Ive tried to force myself into playing and even beating nuts n bolts every few years since it came out. Mainly because there is nothing banjo coming out for a long time. I just want banjo SOMETHING and literally every single time I load into the first town I feel like I'm trudging through mud. I just want to platform and collect things and the game is presenting a huge world with nothing in it but gay side quests that involve cars. Banjo pilot was a silly little spin-off that I fear may have inspired this garbage. I will never say sorry except that I'm sorry it exists.

>>717868554 (OP)
Sorry I find you so hot Banjo

>>717868554 (OP)
Nuts & Bolts still being a Banjo-Kazooie game when development pivoted to vehicle creatjon makes more sense when you find out they were a-okay with Dinosaur Planet being Star Fox Adventures thinking it'd be better for sales

>>717868910
>Banjo pilot was a silly little spin-off that I fear may have inspired this garbage
It wasn't
Banjo Pilot is only like that because they couldn't use Donkey Kong characters anymore

>>717868554 (OP)
Reminder that L.O.G. isn't Microsoft
He's supposed to be Rare

>>717868554 (OP)
Sorry? Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry Nintendo stabbed Rare in the heart.

Why was kazooie so hot in this one?

Fuck you then, fuck you again for haunting me once more under the guise of Zelda, and fuck you one more time because fuck you.

>>717868554 (OP)
I always liked it.

>>717869061
Every interview we've seen had said Star Fox Adventures was an amicable process
Nintendo and Rare still collaborated on the likes of GBA ports of the DKC trilogy, got DK64 on Wii U virtual console, and even did the DS remake of DKR

>>717868554 (OP)
It’s better than totk

>>717869594
Why do you tell lies? Nintendo was tired of getting their butt handed to them by a bunch of Brits so they sabotaged the relationship.

>>717869594
It's like saying, "Oh, Brians gf dumped him but Brian must be cool with it because he gave her a box of stuff she left at his house."

>>717869926
>None of it had anything to do with Dinosaur Planet. That was way before the negotiations started, and besides, the Rare-Nintendo relationship didn’t work in such a way that they’d just force the SFA switch on us.
http://www.raregamer.co.uk/scribes-october-19th-2004/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO7ocvmoDBc

News flash, Rare has always been willing to compromise if it meant better sales
Look at Pro Am 64 to Diddy Kong Racing

>>717870262
>because he gave her a box of stuff she left at his house."
They had a fair agreement that Rare got the full rights to Banjo-Kazooie, Blast Corps, and Killer Instinct (which never even got released in Japan) while Nintendo kept any rights to the Donkey Kong and Star Fox characters Rare had any co-ownership in prior to the buyout.
Nintendo doesn't hate Rare
It's made very clear in Bananza, how Miyamoto loves Cranky Kong, Diddy Kong's prominence, Imamura (yeah I know he left) being a Krystal fan, etc
Nintendo's own museum proudly displays Rare games Nintendo published

Better than TOTK and Tooie

>>717870430
>Nintendo's own museum proudly displays Rare games Nintendo published
More like how a hunter will display a beast he has slain

>>717868554 (OP)
i don't understand why millenials throw tantrums about this game. it's good.

>>717870294
Could Nintendo have bought Rare? Yes. Did they? No.

I enjoyed this game when it came out and now I only look back at it more fondly since it essentially started the genre of vehicle builders.

>>717870762
Because Rare missed several deadlines and their recent games weren't doing too well
We don't know how much money the Stampers were asking when they approached Nintendo but there was hardly any long lasting animosity towards the companies since again, they literally worked together unti the shut down of Rare's handheld division
Nintendo chose the Smash Ultimate DLC line up which included Banjo-Kazooie

>>717870615
Nintendo didn't "kill" Rare, anything you'd argue as a failure for them was on Rare themselves and they make so much more sense when you look at the company's history as a whole
>Rare not wanting to make sequels?
They stopped making Battletoads when the partnership with Nintendo started
Banjo-Threeie was never on the table either
With game development becoming harder and more expensive the studio chose to focus on making new things rather than reiterate on their past
>Rare choosing to do Kinect games?
They've always been interested in new hardware
Banjo Pilot was gonna use GBA tilt controls and they shoehorned as many gimmicks as they could in the Diddy Kong Racing DS remake
Had they stuck with Nintendo they would've done all sorts of things with the Wii Remote, Wii U Game Pad, 3DS' gyro controls, etc
>Dinosaur Planet to Star Fox Adventures
Wasn't something forced upon them
Rare has always compromised if it meant stronger sales
Pro Am 64 to Diddy Kong Racing, Twelve Tales to Conker's Bad Fur Day (admittedly this one might have backfired but the team said Twelve Tales simply wasn't a good game), Kameo's changes done to be more appealing to the more defined Xbox crowd, etc

>>717868932
Wasn't it Miyamoto that came in and "suggested" (aka forced because you aren't going to say no to Miyamoto) them to change Dinosaur Planet into Star Fox? I don't think Rare wanted that to happen

>>717868910
>I just want to platform and collect things and the game is presenting a huge world with nothing in it but gay side quests that involve cars.
The thing that's really baffling is how they split each world up into like 6 different episodes. I guess it was to give a sense of progress by constantly having levels unlock, but it should have just been one door for one level. Having 20 missions + 20 Jinjos in one level would have made the levels a hell of a lot less empty than having two fucking missions in a chapter.

>>717871328
Look up a few posts above
There was zero bad blood and Rare knew it was the best move to pull because otherwise Dinosaur Planet would've been an N64 game released when the new console generation had emerged
It'd look cutting edge for N64 standards, fucking primitive for Game Cube's and attaching it to an established IP meant for stronger sales potential

>>717870943
Honestly Nintendo should have bought Rare for everything they did for Nintendo

>>717868554 (OP)
Ugh why did they make banjo so incredibly unsexy, I hate nu-Banjo.

>>717871924
How the fuck was Nintendo gonna know they'd be bought out by a competing console manufacturer?
If Rare was bought out by a third party company Nintendo would still own 49% of their stake and still co-own Banjo-Kazooie, Blast Corp, and Killer Instinct without competing interest

>>717870778
>it essentially started the genre of vehicle builders.
The fuck? No it didn't.

>>717872059
They experimented with more traditional designs but IIRC they felt something was off

lel Rare fans still seething so many years later

>>717869926
If they were so good how come they completely fell apart the second they abandoned Nintendo

>>717868554 (OP)
Sorry, I'm still not playing this kusoge

>>717872768
Becaause they were playing to the wrong audience

>>717872768
They didn't. The ratio of good games to shit games on Xbox was far better than it was with Nintendo. Rare had a hot streak on the N64 but that's it. They released SO much garbage prior to that.
>B-b-but Donkey Kong Country!
Yeah, that was literally their only good series prior to N64. What else did they have? Battletoads and Snake Rattle and Roll? Those are okay I guess, but not special.

People don't realize just how many awful games Rare put out on Nintendo systems.

>>717872768
Not him and not a dumb conspiracist but Rare's output changed because the industry changed
They had their groove when game development was in a position where they could have multiple teams all working on separate projects and being released in a healthy timeframe
Games became more expensive to develop and required more manpower to complete
Grabbed by the Ghoulies suffered from the shift to Xbox which led to an overhaul of how the game was even designed
Kameo scaled down from its original concept and had an identity crisis since they tried making the game more appealing for the Xbox's audience
Perfect Dark Zero didn't have a chunk of the people who made Perfect Dark or Goldeneye since they left to develop Timesplitters
Rare wasn't devoid of quality, Kameo did come out decently and Viva Pinata is one of their best games period but they couldn't pull off the same magic they could in the 90's because it just wasn't possible anymore

>>717873016
>People don't realize just how many awful games Rare put out on Nintendo systems.
Because licenseshit gets rushed
E.T. on Atari was developed literally by ONE guy who was on a very strict and very short deadline

>>717873028
Ghoulies is a great game and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

>>717873156
Yeah but Rare themselves have poked fun at how it barely sold
British humor amirite?

>>717873016
>Nintendoofus forgot the cultural phenomenon that was Battletoads

>>717873016
>prior to N64
Killer Instinct?

>>717873321
I'm convinced that everything wrong with the industry today is God punishing gamers for not making Ghoulies succeed. And we deserve it. The battle passes, the eternal early-accesses, the censorship. We deserve it all for not making Ghoulies sell millions.
>British humor amirite?
Speaking of which and bringing it back on topic, the fuck happened to the humor in Nuts and Bolts? The originals weren't gonna make you laugh out loud but they had charming humor (with a u). We went from:
>How's your nuts, bark breath?
to
>Everybody loves penguins! Scientific fact!
I mean...Christ...

If Kazooie actually talked to Humba Wumba would she called her a racial slur?

>>717874329
Just addressing her by name is bordering on racial slur as it is. It's like having a Chinese character named Ching Chong.

>>717868554 (OP)
No. (You) owe me an apology for somehow making an even worse version of Saucer of Peril, how the fuck did it manage it? It was already like one of the top 10 worst things in Tooie yet they somehow made it even worse in N&B

>>717874439
Eh...you can say the same for Mumbo (look up where Mumbo Jumbo comes from) but he's not human so nobody cares

>>717874564
Fair point. While we're on the subject, here's a fun fact about Humba Wumba: Did you know that she has massive tits?

>>717874564
Also being offended over Mumbo Jumbo's origins is like being offended over the word Brave
Odds are Rare didn't know

>>717874716
>Did you know that she has massive tits?
Everyone knows
They outright jiggle in one cutscene
I still wish she had a proper non-Nuts & Bolts (even though I prefer her design there) render to know what she's supposed to actually look like

>>717868554 (OP)
thwank yoo

TipTup... REAL...

>>717874564
>>717874768
>Mumbo Jumbo is a West African word often cited by historians and etymologists as deriving from the Mandinka word "Maamajomboo", which refers to a masked male dancer who takes part in religious ceremonies.
I'm gonna say that odds are they did know since Mumbo in BK is a masked male who dances while performing magic. Was expecting something that could be considered more offensive.

>>717868554 (OP)
Microsoft ruined rare

>>717875102
It's more how the phrase itself means nonsensical gibberish when it's derived from a sacred tradition that white colonizers dismissed
Also, it's not a mask
Mumbo's head is just magically stuck like that die to Grunty

>>717875523
>It's more how the phrase itself means nonsensical gibberish when it's derived from a sacred tradition that white colonizers dismissed
Yeah, that's fair.
>Also, it's not a mask
You're right about the game lore, but he was designed by real people and the idea for the skull seems like it could only be based on the mask aspect of the term. Pretty neat. I never considered where the phrase "Mumbo Jumbo" came from.

>>717876068

>>717868554 (OP)
No, its shit

>>717869061
>rerefag still seething
23 years

>>717878359
23 years of bad karma for Nintendo

>>717873716
How he fogot something thats never happened?

>>717878359
Are you surprised? I'm a Rare fan and I'm gonna be seething til I die. Has any company had such a terrible fate? They don't even get the mercy of being put down like a dog. They're just kept alive to be shit and piss off the people who remember what it was like when they were good.

>>717868554 (OP)
I'm sorry you weren't an actual Banjo game

>>717878491
>ds
>wii
>Switch
And nintendo has bad Karma?

>>717878956
The Lord often make famous those he wants to destroy

>>717879341
Keep seething rarefag, nintendo was right when they dont brought rare

>>717868554 (OP)
Nuts & Bolts is an awesome game and everyone who hates it is both a retard and a fake Banjo fan.
Could it have been more platformy? Sure, whatever. Could it have used the content they planned in the beta? Yeah, that would've been nice. Is it a bad game? No and if you don't like it, kiss my ass you don't like it.
Rare and Microsoft have no reason to please you if a great game like this slips past you simply because it's different. If you chose not to give this game a chance you are the reason this series is dead.

If and when they EVER bring back Banjo, I hope it's Nuts & Bolts 2 just to spite you faggots.

>>717879523
The gaycube suffered, then they had to use fake gimmicks with the wii

>>717868554 (OP)
Banjo was never good

>>717872924
You will never be Japanese.
But yes, you are correct.

>>717874716
>>717879816
More of Humba Big Boobies Wumba please.

>>717874716
>>717879816
Humba give me big heap boner

Gregg Mayles was really autistic after the 90s

It's okay as a game if you like the vehicle building. The issue is fans of the series wanted another collectathon, and after the end of Tooie and the numerous issues within that time span, no one knew if there was going to be a Threeie. Also the first teaser trailer shown off that people got excited for also showed collectathon aspects, even if the new style for the characters was weird.

>>717880507
It's not even good for building anything because the physic is absolute shit and the level design doesn't exist.
It's only good for making blocky plastic model you never touch because they suck.

>>717868554 (OP)
I'm sorry Banjo, I'm sorry a bunch of menchildren still think a 3D Platformer would have been better

>>717880507
There's zero shot the teaser wasn't intended for a more traditional Banjo. There was definitely going to be a move where you used Kazooie as a key to open doors.

>>717874439
>Chinese character named Ching Chong
Chinese people have names like that though
What's the issue

>>717881018
>There's zero shot the teaser wasn't intended for a more traditional Banjo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLWLdO9GLWM

you can see Banjo and Kazooie getting trolled after thinking they are returning home

>>717868554 (OP)
Fuck you, Gregg

>>717868554 (OP)
AND IIIIIII
HOLY SHIT
WILL ALWAYS LOOOOVE YOU
I CANT BELIEVE YOUD DO THIS TO ME GODDAMN HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME!?!?

>>717881189
Nothing as long as she's got big, heaving Chongs like Humba's Wumbas.

>>717868554 (OP)
>Say sorry.
No.
I have the same opinion of the game now as I did back then.

I genuinely and unironically think Nuts & Bolts is an incredible game.
But it's an awful Banjo Tooie """""sequel""""" and Nuts & Bolts being so condescending and downright insulting towards Banjo Kazooie and even the genre at large. Is not the kind of "humour" that sits well after finally reviving the franchise that's been dormant for almost a whole decade straight, that you teased a sequel for for ages. An idea that you shit on in Nuts & Bolts.

In short.
The game is genuinely great. I'll die on the hill that Nuts & Bolts is a great game.
But it fucking sucks as a Banjo Kazooie game.

>>717881749
The game should have been Tiptup: Nuts and Bolts.

>>717882161
>goes on racist tirade and loses all his audience

If it didn't look so ugly and wasn't put together so spitefully I geuinely think the world would've given it a chance

>>717882206
Release it after a proper platforming Banjo and it wouldn't be so hated.

>>717882195
>loses all his audience
You wish. He sits on his ass, puts out one shitty video a year and makes that easy money. I decided to check on his channel recently and he just sits in a chair and does minimal-effort reaction content now. Good for him I guess for being able to make a comfy living like that, but holy fuck he turned into a lazy sack of shit. All of his post-gaming stuff was trash already, but he's REAL fuckin bad now.

>>717868554 (OP)
No, fuck you.

>>717868554 (OP)
>tfw getting a vehicle stuck in the huge gears of the first level
>getting back to the island and seeing how the impossibly huge gears have now completely stopped
there was something about that moment, the feeling that I had broken the game's world or interacted with it in a way I should've never have been able to that I will never forget

>>717868554 (OP)
No

>>717868554 (OP)
its probably not that bad but it really shouldnt have been a banjo game
or at least they should have made a real game first and then have this be a sort of spin off

wonder how it would have been received if they had released yooka laylee just with banjo and kazooie though (like same levels and everything)

>>717883086
>wonder how it would have been received if they had released yooka laylee just with banjo and kazooie though (like same levels and everything)
like every game that wasn't an online multiplayer shooter, bad.

>>717874065
Hate it, doesn't count.

>>717883086
I didnt love Yooka Laylee but I liked it fine. Im optimistic for Yooka Replaylee.

>>717868554 (OP)
>Scrimblo bimblo game #3
It's shit

>>717868554 (OP)
was that the earliest we ever saw millenial writing in gaming? it was a year before borderlands I think
>le gamers don't want to collect things!! xD they want to shoot and stuff lol
or that's what I remember

>>717883302
>>717883261
but surely the goytubers would have gone crazy for it

>>717868912
Are you me

>>717878491
Nintendo just released one of the best 3D platformers on their new successful console vs... what's Rare been up to again? You know, besides cancelling games.

>>717884431
>one of the best 3D platformers on their new successful console
isnt it also the only one

>>717884431
Microshart cancelled it

>>717868554 (OP)
>>717874207
>>717874716
>>717879816
Fun fact: a British rule 34 artist named JollyJack did the concept art and character designs for Nuts and Bolts. Some of his horny art is even in the game and still on deviantart. Humba Wumba’s design is 1:1 based on his horny fanart of her that got bought by Rare for BK:NB

>>717884431
To be fair, Rare wasn't to blame for the cancellation. That was Microsoft's call. On the other hand, Rare is 100% responsible for dicking around for like a fucking decade on Everwild and having nothing to show for it.
>In October 2024, Everwild development was reported to be going well, with parts of the game being in a playable form
To add context: This game had been revealed five years prior, and PARTS of the game were in a playable form. Anyone left at Rare after the 360 was a genuine retard and it's clear. Mayles leaving wasn't a sign of how bad it's gotten for those poor devs under Microsoft. He was probably the loser dragging everyone down.

>>717885517
yea it was a weird time, Sega going with Raita and Rare with Jollyjack at the same time.
IIRC his art was in the Klungo arcade mini game thing

>>717884243
sauce

>>717870262

>>717885623
The fact that 343 and modern Rare are still around while they gave the boot to the Hi-Fi Rush team kinda says it all.

>>717885517
>>717885703
extremely based

>>717874716
could i trick her into flashing me?

>>717868554 (OP)
What ever happened to his little sister Tootie, the whole point of the first game was to save her, now she suddenly stop existing

>>717885517
I remember hearing about another ascended coom artist. Does anyone else remember who it was?

>>717883086
I thought most of the backlash/anti-rnthusiasm for yooka was because they removed Jontron, trying to appease the loony lefties, and that the game itself was fine but kinda meh.

>>717885517
>goes to his deviantart
>he drew curvacious anthro unikitty with tits

>>717888523
imagine if it was a banjo game and jontron was in it
the youtubers would have been gooning about it for years saying its the best game ever made

>>717871328
>Wasn't it Miyamoto that came in and "suggested" (aka forced because you aren't going to say no to Miyamoto)
Except all the devs that did exact that.
Nigger.
The Eternal Darkness were also suggested by Miyamoto to not make the game so dark (both in lighting and tone), they chose to ignore that advice and continue on to no issues.
You rareniggers need to get over yourselves.
2000s rare was NOT 1980s to 1990s rare. Period.
They were bleeding staff.
Failing releases dates.
Doubting their work/abilities (retooling Pro-Am & and Conker)
Nintendo let them go because it was NOT the same dev studio just 5-8 years prior.

>>717874207
what a shit ugly design.
damn.

>>717874716
>can gigantify her in the dino world
not even hiding your fetish dev-boy.

>>717875523
>from a sacred tradition that white colonizers dismissed
you can piss off with your self loathing antiwhite faggotry cunt-o-matic.

>>717878491
AHAHAHAHA
RAREKEKS
LMAO

GOMENASORRY

>>717868554 (OP)
it shouldn't have been a banjo kazooie game, should have a different main cast of new characters and not from an existing IP

>>717891354
Problem was they introduced that first trailer before adding car stuff in development

>>717891249
>tfw we will never ever get a B&K game half as good as Bananza

>>717868554 (OP)
i will as soon as that game tops this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRhw4PGc5-k

>>717883086
LOL I forgot about this game. All the hype around this game and it died soon after. What a shitshow

>>717892907
its actually pretty good at least post patch
it was just way too hyped up by people who hadnt even played banjo but only knew it through nintendo youtubers like jontron who spoke of it as the best game ever made

It's crazy how it's been over ten years and Rare fags are STILL seething because this game tells them directly that a platformer game wouldn't work in todays world. Even crazier when you realize Rare was proven right time and time again with all these indie flops

>>717871456
day night cycle and level flooding