Thread 717870461

Post games where the best part is the OST and it's not close at all. To the point where they probably should have just made an album and left the "game" part out. Pic related.

But the OST in Mario Kart World is overrated because it's just professionally recorded rearrangements of songs in the Mario IP that isn't even Mario Kart-related.
It feels like hootenanny.

Why does the open world feel so pointless? Why did they implement intermissions, a cool idea on paper, so badly?
Also the bullshit AI killed all my hype while trying to get 3stars. I don't know if they fixed it in any of the patches or not but I feel it permanently ruined my perception of the game.

>>717870461 (OP)
Nintendo OSTs need to sound like actual game soundtracks again like Double Dash instead of tryhard Japanese arrangement metal cafe music.

>>717870461 (OP)
Now that the dust has settled, was this game a flop?

mario kart world has excellent track design and the best mechanics of any entry in the series
>noooooo le intermissions!!!
join a competitive discord then faggot

OST in MKW isn't anything special though. It's like...elevator music, but racing. Know what I mean?

ANYWAYS, I think the most impressive part of MKW is that it feels like a (small) world, they really nailed that. Everything being interconnected is pretty cool actually. Overall THAT isn't really impressive though because video games have had worlds/world maps for decades, all MKW did was rope off some hallways that you travel down, know what I mean?

But I digress. I like it and I don't know if I could think of a game where the OST is the best part. If the music is the best part of the game, I probably quit playing the game before I could experience the music fully because that would mean the game is very subpar.

>>717871140
on its way to sell another 65 million copies

>>717871162
>best mechanics of any entry in the series
Grinding is fucking stupid nonsense, a truly retarded addition.

>>717870461 (OP)
GoldenEye 007

Without the excellent sound and music, game would've gone down as a little above average.

>>717870461 (OP)
please just add a patch to let me turn down sound effects please.

>>717871140
If it didn't have a console bundle, probably. I sure as shit wouldn't have paid $80 for it

>>717870461 (OP)
>Guitar Hero: World Tour
>Let's Sing! 2023

Let It Die is the apex of this.

>>717870461 (OP)
Games should start doing the "buy our official soundtrack" thing more often. Typically I don't care enough about what I'm seeing with a game to spend $70+ dollars for them, but if they release the soundtrack and make that a standalone purchase they'll at least have a chance to get some money out of me.

>>717871061
Becuase by this point it should be obvious to anyone that MonolithSoft (the Xenoblade devs who Nintendo boughted) are seen as the Golden Goose because of Breath of the Wild, and they're pushed to make Open World by the corporation no matter how little the devs actually cared for it or not. In the Ask The Devs for MKW I got the impression the Nintendo-side devs (the Mario Kart Team) got annoyed with the way Xenoblade's team worked, and the two groups didn't work well together.

It's just really stupid. Can Nintendo make any of their old franchises without forcing a completely untraditional mode over it anymore? I think this comes back to the quote in 2021 when the new Nintendo CEO said "I want the developers to experiment."
I think he's gotten told by people on the dev side like Shinya Takahashi and a lot of younger devs that they wanna zoom zoom and not be beholden to expected Nintendo formulas, and unlike Iwata he just heard that and was like "Yeah do it."
A significant quote from Iwata I spotted was from an Iwata Asks about Zelda Skyward Sword. By then they had started talking about maybe dropping some features that were tying Zelda down as a series, but Iwata said "You can never get rid of the Da-na-na-naaa! when you pick up treasures, it's too iconic."

Well guess what, they dropped it in BotW.

>>717871061
The AI was nerfed in the most recent update.

>>717875184
I miss Iwata more than you'll ever know

>>717870626
Fpbp
Nintendo games that fall back on old tunes are dog shit

>>717870461 (OP)
I hate this [song] -BAND version- //chill mix (LIVE at TOKYO) type shit like you wouldn't believe

>>717875601
>Nintendo also reaching the point now where their work is so "professional" that it just becomes soulless instead

>>717870461 (OP)
I can't fucking hear the ost in this game over the fucking engine revving, so I have no idea if it's even good.

>>717877000
Ex-cactly. It just feels like a "Spotify Playlist" as an OST. It doesn't accentuate every visual in the game like each track does in MK8.
And the sound director even admitted she picked old Mario songs to get shit done faster.

>>717871098
Mario Kart 8 was perfect. It started to sound like competent "live big band music" but they still kept a lot of it so fucking "Nintendo".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCYUkablczI
Mario Kart World's OST is pretentious and charmless to me.

>>717870626
The original songs are all great too, and the rearrangements are almost all very transformative and are often the best renditions of the song
>>717871162
This, the game is great

>best game in the franchise
>retards still mad
the opinions of compfags and schizos don't matter

>>717877051
>someone thought anything in that pic conveyed soullessness
assassinate yourself posthaste

>>717877273
>The original songs are all great too, and the rearrangements are almost all very transformative and are often the best renditions of the song
I do like some of the work they put into 8, don't get me wrong. But as a whole I find myself not playing for long sessions because everything is so fucking "boisterous" and like someone else said "Metal Cafe". It could just be an anime thing. like, my anime friend always shows me 4 or 5 new anime when I visit him, and I've noticed all the latest stuff has extremely loud and sort of "early 2000s" vibes, where it's trying really hard to be edgy and aggressive sounding. Even the main theme in Mario Kart World kind of sucks and it actively annoys me.
But I think it's Nintendo's image in general that's starting to have this more "corporate" feel. In the recent Nintendo Partner direct, the opening also has such a
>He-heeyyy fellas~
>We're Nintendo, baby, check us out!
Like, where is that charmingly detuned whistling that they used to have in all their music? Where's that sort of doe-eyed, knowingly childish attitude that still spoke to all ages? I don't wanna see a fucking "Corporate Marketing Division" version of Nintendo.

>>717877710
You’ve genuinely lost it if you think this soundtrack has a corporate feel to it. It has more expression from the performers than basically any before it. It leans very hard into its jazz influences in that way. But there’s also a huge variety of genres and tempos, many slower arrangements, so there’s plenty that wouldn’t feel “boisterous”

>>717878209
I don't get a very "proud" feeling listening to most of the OST. I get a "holy shit the show must go on, next song. OK, done! I know, We're terrific musicians and know our shit. Phew. NEXT SONG" feeling from it.
It's Quantity > Quality.
And yes, I know all of it is actually quality. real work put into it. But it is just kind of a "skilled musicians play hootenanny on existing songs". It's like watching Scary Pockets covers on YouTube or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-jEjoliaA0

>>717875574
Same, anon. Dude actually gave a shit. You could feel his presence in everything Nintendo pushed out-even when stuff didn’t work, there was that charm, that soul. Now it feels like everyone’s moving on autopilot. Iwata was like the last guy in the room going “what makes this fun?” before some suit turned the lights off.

>>717878353
I hate the sort of shit you posted. Listened to a few, and they put very little spin on the shit they cover. Very little regard thought for what the song could be and instead just put through the filter of their musical predilections. That’s not at all the case for World’s soundtrack. The fact there’s an EDM Baby Park and a butt rock Buoy Bass Galaxy proves your little fanfic of quotes is misguided
https://youtu.be/BMmS5vPvr0s
https://youtu.be/QNtMMgCehdo

>>717870461 (OP)
Blue Archive
Sonic Frontier
Persona games

>>717879037
I don't like this. It's not Nintendo enough.

>>717879407
>but it doesn’t adhere to the corporate mandated Nintendo identity
Go reminisce about the golden days of bah-bah tracks then, retard

>>717879617
Mario Kart 8 did it well though.

>>717870461 (OP)
Undertale

>>717879617
I have no issues that it's live orchestrated or done with EDM techniques, but it is uncharacteristic and charmless.
It's like a YouTuber's homemade cover version of a song, where it sounds really impressive but conformed to musical norms.

>>717880551
>>717880778
You’re intellectually deficient and should consider killing yourselves rather than putting people through the displeasure of even conversing with you

>>717881038
There there. I get mad when I lose too.

>>717871061
bro really got stomped by the ai? i get last place consistently on /v/eekend lobbies for MKW and i can consistently beat all the bots in any of the modes. Get gud unironically shitter

It insists upon itself.

>>717870461 (OP)
nigger, the OST was the first thing I got bored of. no aspect of game design could be salvaged from this wreck

>>717881089
it’s a completely emotionless assessment. The world would simply improve from your death

>>717870461 (OP)
Sonic secret rings

>>717871237
At least it actually changes the gameplay. Meanwhile 0 grav was just a gimmick that doesn't change how the game is played at all.

Next question

>>717875184
Mario Kart World annoys me the most because it feels like wasted potential to the maximum.
How cool would it have been to have boss battles out in the open world? Or challenges by Mario NPC people? Like you see a giant Wiggler, run into it, and then he challenges you to another side of the map? Or you see an NPC kart racer roaming around the map, who you can then challenge to a special race. You want to beat Nabbit in a race? Then race Nabbit around a track 3 laps while he has unlimited access to items to unlock him. You want that cool ROB bike? Then find some random NPC on the top of DK Spaceport that is chilling on it, and race them to the bottom of DK Spaceport with more obstacles in the way. How fun would that be? You'd get to do fun stuff while unlocking cool stuff. It's open world so of course you'd be encouraged to explore. It would really bring its title to full circle: Mario Kart WORLD, because you explore the WORLD of Mario Kart.
BUT NO WE CAN'T HAVE THAT HERE'S STUPID STICKER FOR YOUR KART YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE, THIS IS YOUR REWARD FOR FLYING THROUGH RINGS IN THE AIR IN LESS THAN A MINUTE

>>717885939
what is it about autists and wanting a ton of gay 1 time only singleplayer shit in their multiplayer party games

>>717886287
Oh okay anon, you want to play that game anon?
THEN HOW ABOUT THEY LET YOU ROAM AROUND THE MAP AND RACE A KOOPA TROOPA BIKER GANG THEN? OR HOW ABOUT A MULTIPLAYER BOSS BATTLE MODE WHERE YOU HAVE TO FIND THE REAL KING BOO AMONGST A WAVE OF FAKES? OR HOW ABOUT YOU ALL GET TO UNLOCK A KART PIECE IF YOU CAN BEAT THE NPC WITH SAID KART PIECE IN A SPECIAL RACE? HOW'S THAT ANON? HOW'S THAT?

>>717886754
>more autism
i'm white girl manifesting some irl friends for you play mkw with anon

>>717886849
>autism is expecting good content in an $80 title game for a $450 console

>>717886849
Those suggestions seem reasonable, put all this effort into the world and don't let me have fun with my buddies

>>717870461 (OP)
I didn't like the OST very much, it wasn't very engaging in a kart racing game.
My favorite part of MKW were the visuals and some of the character designs, but I still prefer MKDD's saturated, unbothered colors over Nintendo's obsession with VFX.
>>717871061
>Why did they implement intermissions, a cool idea on paper, so badly?
How are intermissions "cool" on paper? They're by definition boring and lazy.
That's what makes them intermissions and not real tracks.
>>717871162
>join a competitive discord then faggot
Being forced to use discord to properly play a game is a dealbreaker for people who just want to play something casually and don't want to install spyware.

>>717888664
Not him, I think the "Idea" is "Cool on paper" in the idea of a "The Cannonball Run", the actual issue is ironically connected to the open world in that it just means you don't have many obstacles when "Racing between races" because they are just straight lines between the tracks, and the 1 Lap thing means you never actually feel like you are racing on the actual stages once you reach them between traversal and the fact they practically fucking replaced Standard Grand Prix.

In practice it is also absolutely destroyed by the Item system fucking over frontrunning making like 80% of a Intermission(/Knockout Tour) baiscally pointless because you DON'T want to take the lead until the last second since you are just setting yourself to get screwed if you do.

>>717871061
>Why does the open world feel so pointless?
I've put like 60 hours into just the open world exploration and searching for the panels, switches, and medalions.

>>717877051
That's extremely sovlfvl. You're a fucking retard.

>>717886918
But it has good content. Amazing, even. YOU are the one who thinks objectively good music is bad because you have autism and only like "old thing from my childhood".

>>717886287
you can have multiple ways to unlock them. Like in MKwii where you could unlock funky kong by either beating time trial ghosts or playing X matches.

>>717871237
agree. Grinding is lame cause it's slower than normal racing and usually doesn't lead to a shortcut.
They should have either made grinding faster but you have to maintain a balance meter (so skilled players can go a slight bit faster) or made rails lead to shortcuts more often instead of just being speed traps randomly placed everywhere.
Also could have given cool interactions like making boosting into a rail do a super fast grind that's faster than boosting on ground.

200cc would actually work better in world than mk8 BRING IT BACK

>>717870461 (OP)
Literally any square enix game.