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Anonymous No.717870876 >>717871153 >>717871462 >>717871757 >>717871781 >>717871954 >>717872341 >>717872356 >>717872414 >>717872782 >>717873017 >>717873257 >>717873779 >>717874363 >>717874812 >>717875068 >>717875758 >>717876129 >>717876760 >>717876775 >>717879608 >>717880974 >>717884170 >>717886334 >>717886431 >>717887378 >>717888047 >>717888342 >>717891418 >>717891903 >>717892135 >>717892237 >>717893235 >>717893568 >>717895056 >>717896263 >>717898350 >>717900037 >>717900810 >>717900949 >>717901204 >>717901523 >>717904412 >>717906645 >>717907117
AI is being used to make (very quickly) visual novels. Depending on if you like AI art styles...is this a good or bad thing?
Anonymous No.717870934 >>717871006 >>717871213 >>717872003 >>717874161 >>717875585 >>717876606 >>717879297 >>717883593 >>717884170 >>717886006 >>717886012 >>717890042 >>717892059 >>717893235 >>717894915 >>717895609 >>717895701 >>717895895 >>717897595 >>717898271 >>717899956 >>717900642 >>717900876 >>717900932 >>717901219 >>717901308
I'm sick of AI.
Anonymous No.717870984
>sloppa is being used to churn out slop
fascinating
Anonymous No.717871006 >>717871967 >>717875391 >>717884880 >>717895802
>>717870934
Even if you can get a new VN you enjoy within a couple months? Most take years and years now.
Anonymous No.717871153 >>717871201 >>717871245 >>717871696 >>717871994
>>717870876 (OP)
>Depending on if you like AI art styles
You mean SD with a LoRA trained on Afrobull's style?
They all suck and I could write one ten times better without much effort.
Anonymous No.717871201
>>717871153
>and I could write one ten times better without much effort.
sounds like easy money
Anonymous No.717871213
>>717870934
cry about it
Anonymous No.717871245 >>717871329
>>717871153
Alright what is it going to be about?
Anonymous No.717871317
GOOD MORNING SAAARS
I LUVE VISUAL NOVELS CAUSE THEY"RE COOL XD
MORE COOL VISUAL NOVELS ARE COMING BECAUSE OF AI!!!!
Anonymous No.717871329 >>717871371 >>717871738 >>717883450
>>717871245
Shotas being molested by their babbysitter
Anonymous No.717871371
>>717871329
Very based
Anonymous No.717871427 >>717871527 >>717873546
AI is the new punk
Anonymous No.717871462
>>717870876 (OP)
Fuck AI and FUCK AI supporters
Anonymous No.717871527
>>717871427
cia astroturf? yeah, sure
Anonymous No.717871696 >>717871789 >>717871793 >>717898091
>>717871153
That’s the beauty of all of this. We as consumers don’t have to wait as long and if you really want to you could just do it yourself for free. I say the more visual novels we get faster the better as long as the art is pretty and the story is interesting
Anonymous No.717871738
>>717871329
uh hello??? 10 COPIES NOW!! please.
Anonymous No.717871757
>>717870876 (OP)
is the writing also done with AI?
Anonymous No.717871781 >>717872412 >>717876775
>>717870876 (OP)
My issue isn't AI being incorporated into the workflow of gamedevving. The real problem is that very few devs put in that extra effort to make their art gens not look AI generated. It's lazy and tells me they don't give a shit about their end product, so why should I?

It's not even that hard: some extra prompting, in-painting, some Photoshop work to fix anything weird or inconsistent, tracing the sloppa and then recompositing to smooth out jagged AI edges, adding some manual effects or facial edits for polish, generating, adding some simple animations like bobbing or "breathing", so many different ways to make look better and 99% of devs using AI publish exactly what they generated without a care.
Anonymous No.717871789 >>717872027
>>717871696
>I say the more visual novels we get faster the better as long as the art is pretty and the story is interesting
HOLY FUCKING KINOOO
MORE VISUAL NUVELS WITH STORIES!!!!!
Anonymous No.717871793
>>717871696
if your immediate response to someone making something novel is to steal it, why would anyone ever share something new?
Anonymous No.717871867 >>717892202
I know someone who is planning to use AI to make some shitty anime game. He would never buy a single player game, even ones that he says look cool, because he thinks it's beneath him, yet he has no problem concocting a shitty game with AI. He doesn't even seem to like anime except Naruto, he just says he likes the style. I think of that guy and how little he thinks of his potential customers whenever I see an obvious AI game on Steam.
Anonymous No.717871954 >>717871994 >>717872082
>>717870876 (OP)
All these faggots keep imitating afrobull, so extremely bad.
Anonymous No.717871967
>>717871006
>VN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2IZbbuFxWg
Anonymous No.717871994 >>717872082
>>717871954
>>717871153
I don’t think it’s Afrobull.
Anonymous No.717872003 >>717873337
>>717870934
oh well, the world moves on without you
Anonymous No.717872027
>>717871789
lol you sarcastic lil fuck
>captcha : GAY
Anonymous No.717872082 >>717872205
>>717871954
Why? He's a good artist
>>717871994
It is
Anonymous No.717872205 >>717872263
>>717872082
Afrobull is shit, you absolute bufoon
Anonymous No.717872263 >>717872351
>>717872205
Let me guess, mad because he only draws white dicks despite his name
Anonymous No.717872341
>>717870876 (OP)
I type big boob into google get 10 billion result
there are already countless coomer VNs out there
literally what is the fucking point?
Anonymous No.717872351 >>717872427
>>717872263
That is not the reason, lmao. He has no grasp of shading or anatomy and hasn't improved in fucking years.
Anonymous No.717872356
>>717870876 (OP)
it's shit
Anonymous No.717872412
>>717871781
The time and expense of that kind of "fixing" starts to add up after a while. And it starts to get egregious when added on to all the effort spent genning in the first place. Plus, there's the less tangible psychological drain of the "oh boy, time to fix what the retarded machine spat out" feeling.

Thus, using generative AI assets can really ONLY be profitable if you just slap them in without a care. If you have the energy to consistently try to fix it, then you might as well just learn the skill and make it right the first time yourself.
Anonymous No.717872414 >>717872697
>>717870876 (OP)
I would rather take MSpaint/umineko/ZUN art than AI slop
Anonymous No.717872427 >>717872481
>>717872351
he draws better than you
Anonymous No.717872481
>>717872427
I don't have to be an artist to critique a garbage one. Anyone with functional eyes can.
Anonymous No.717872637
>westshit
>vn
Anonymous No.717872697 >>717873717 >>717875969
>>717872414
I actually enjoyed the Higurashi anime and want to play the games but that guys art style is so fucking vomit inducing its unreal
Anonymous No.717872782
>>717870876 (OP)
They don't edit the ai well enough and are extremely lazy with what they push out. Even if there had been benefits to using ai they wasted it. All the "art" has the same look.
Anonymous No.717872983
Saars just dream to make new DDLC and make big money with one prompt. Visual novels are basically books with sprites and voices. And like with books people love games from specific companies because they were made and written by artists they like. But saars
>can't even write
Just imagine subhuman who want to generate and sell you ai book.
>can't draw
Most VNs don't even have good art by modern standards. A lot of them have bad art or very bad art. But saaring subhuman is too lazy even for stick figure tier art.
Pathetic.
Anonymous No.717873017
>>717870876 (OP)
Looks like that AI generated femboy game. Is this a femboy?
Anonymous No.717873257
>>717870876 (OP)
I'm not as opposed to AI use in something like a VN where it is presumably one person doing it himself, especially if it's a porn game, but if someone's using sloppa art I'll think they're probably using AI to write it too and at that point I just stop caring and am unlikely to play even if it's free and caters to me
Anonymous No.717873337 >>717873602 >>717874353 >>717886145
>>717872003
actually it's moving on with him, he's far from the only person sick of this shit
Anonymous No.717873546
>>717871427
>Starts out with unskilled people being shit and doing it anyway
>Gets popular for coming from the heart and resonating
>Gets commidified and all the soul sucked out by moneyed individuals and normalfags following what's popular
Close, but AI skips #2
Anonymous No.717873602 >>717873750
>>717873337
the hard truth is, the majority of people cannot tell (good) AI generated images apart from hand drawn ones. the same few thousand people cry relentlessly about fingers and inconsistencies on xitter, but most dont give a fuck. if it looks good it looks good. not saying this is a good or bad thing, but anyone with a 3060 can generate adaquate images in comfyui for the vnslop they make for itch. thats just how it is
Anonymous No.717873717
>>717872697
I wish the art was the worst part, after trying and quitting umineko mid way through I'm fairly sure his writing is way worse.
Anonymous No.717873750 >>717873947 >>717874216 >>717878798
>>717873602
>the hard truth is, the majority of people cannot tell (good) AI generated images apart from hand drawn ones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgery
Anonymous No.717873779 >>717873850
>>717870876 (OP)
When will aifags finally realize the reason people often spot the slop from a mile away and are in disgust of it is because no one ever actually tries to make a new style with it, and either just use default styles or abuse loras that ACTUALLY and shamelessly apes popular porn artists without a fucking shred of self awareness in why most people would roll their fucking eyes and imagine you either being a retard jeet or an underage who thinks they've somehow cracked the fucking code (to what? you don't even know yourselves).

All you fags ever fucking make is hyper-derivative slop. It is the DEFINITION of slop. You took an already on the nose insult and made it effectively one in the fucking same. There's no innovation whatsoever being done despite all the fucking bragging and braying on every fucking social plat form, no one who uses any of this shit actually tries to make their own actual fucking art style with it, and instead it's "I want more porn from this artist I like but I don't wanna commission them and wait!" like it was already fucking predicted to be.

But let me guess, two more weeks and it totally will deliver?
Anonymous No.717873850 >>717874086 >>717874412 >>717877029
>>717873779
You can go to civitai right now and find a plethora of new styles
Anonymous No.717873947 >>717874932
>>717873750
how does that prove him wrong? do you expect every AI slop fag to get arrested then?
Anonymous No.717874086
>>717873850
"plethora of new styles" as in effectively photobashing elements from different porn artists into a hackjob frakenstein that's so blatantly obvious and overt that it's jarring? Wow, amazing, really proving the capabilities when the biggest of heavy lifting comes from prompters who aren't fucking artists and cannot even fathom most art techniques and just points at popular art and go "DO LIKE THIS" but broken down into proper prompt script.

The reason this shit is soulless is because the vast majority using and abusing it are as fucking soulless as the MBAs they suck off.
Anonymous No.717874132
i dont even read visual novels except for the older ones. why should i bother with aislop if the "dev" can't even draw, which also probably means it can't write, which means the story will also be sloppa
Anonymous No.717874161
>>717870934
FPBP
Anonymous No.717874216 >>717874932
>>717873750
terrible parallel but the funny thing is, forged works are often not in any way shape or form inferior to the genuine pieces and modern fine art exists for the sole purpose of facilitating money laundering, racketeering schemes and tax evasion. the irony of using it to gain the moral high ground is not lost on me
Anonymous No.717874353
>>717873337
That's because it's all garbage now. When it gets better he'll reconsider. And that's because it's a gradual process and it's hard to draw a line.
Does a game that only generated combat animations as AI where the user has described in great detail what he actually wants?
What if the AI gets freedom with vague promps like "generate gameplay" and the user uses that as a baseline and improves it?
What if the user makes the combat and runs it through AI for imrpovements?
People are gonna debate these things and the luddite purists are gonna push normies to the AI side with their obnoxious behaviour. Not unlike politics.
Anonymous No.717874363
>>717870876 (OP)
>what if visual novels but without good art
well what’s the fucking point then?
Anonymous No.717874412
>>717873850
And not a single person posting shit genned with them, 99.9% of AI slop online is the bottom tier garbage
Anonymous No.717874523
The art and OP looks amazing. By the way you wouldn’t even be able to tell it was AI.
Anonymous No.717874672
>noooo it's le hecking soulless
>noooooo you're stealing from the hecking artists
don't care lol if it looks good I'm gonna coom to it, and yes, cum, because AI exists pretty much for porn
Anonymous No.717874812
>>717870876 (OP)
>is this a good or bad thing?
It depends on how you consume entertainment.
When you listen to music, do you think the cultural context in which it was created matters? Or do you just care about instant auditory stimulation?
If you listen to music for the pure entertainment of listening to something, then you are the type who will enjoy reading AI-made visual novels.
If, on the other hand, you think that culture has a meaning that goes beyond the work itself, then you probably won't care about machine-made VNs because they were generated out of thin air. You might use them for porn, however, where all that matters is instant, visceral satisfaction.
Anonymous No.717874932 >>717875645 >>717885716
>>717873947
>>717874216
>how does that prove him wrong?
>him
>same lowercase posts
The idea behind forgery or falsification is to trick someone. The majority of people (You included) cannot tell the difference between forged product (good fake) or real. Your argument is that AIslop gud cause people can't tell the difference. Sorry but it is still AIslop. You just trying hard to sell it like a drawing because it is not a real drawing. You want AIslop to have same value as hand made art. But it never will. AIslop is like a sand. It's everywhere and worthless. Though of course some NPC may like such slop.
Anonymous No.717875068 >>717875240 >>717875436
>>717870876 (OP)
VNs are slop by definition so they go hand in hand with AI
Anonymous No.717875240
>>717875068
Saya no Uta is 10/10
Anonymous No.717875391
>>717871006
>enjoy
>AIslop
Anonymous No.717875436
>>717875068
Anonymous No.717875585
>>717870934
fippy bippy
Anonymous No.717875645 >>717876101
>>717874932
no one is "tricked", you have no clue what you are talking about. modern forgeries dont pretend to be genuine pieces exactly because they dont need to. people who enjoy the art itself and not the prestige of owning a genuine piece are fine with forgeries, just like people who enjoy games but dont give a shit about drama and politics wont care about presentable AI generated images. you can call it AIslop all you want, complaining wont change things
>inb4 phoneposter
Anonymous No.717875719
if you play visual novels you are already beyond saving
Anonymous No.717875758
>>717870876 (OP)
AI is neither a good thing nor a bad thing, it just is.
Anonymous No.717875969
>>717872697
then use the ps3 sprites you dumb fucking nigger faggot
Anonymous No.717876101 >>717877083
>>717875645
>phoneposter
>slopeater
As always.
>just like people who enjoy games but dont give a shit about drama and politics wont care about presentable AI generated images
Oh yeah people who """""enjoy games""""" don't care about art direction, design and people who were behind their favorite games right. There is no difference between Thief and Thief (2014). No difference between originals and demakes. Just consume brother.
Anonymous No.717876129
>>717870876 (OP)
I don't care because 99% of VNs already have the most generic fucking art ever.
VN cg's are so bland, once you've seen one you've seen them all apart from a good few.
Anonymous No.717876180 >>717876436 >>717876619
AI can help in gaming, its not all bad.
Anonymous No.717876436 >>717878023 >>717879992
>>717876180
One day Gen Alpha is gonna start watching AI play videogames for them instead of watching real jewtubers.
Oh boy, it's all gonna be grim as fuck soon.
Anonymous No.717876606
>>717870934
fpbp
It's not that ai itself bothers me, it's that ai niggers have absolutely no concept of good aesthetics and churn out don't of the most dogshit looking garbage imaginable that borders on teenage deviantart pages
Anonymous No.717876619
>>717876180
To make more slop? AI = cheapness and soullessness. Even for small devs it's bad. Hell it's especially awful for small devs.
Anonymous No.717876760 >>717878326 >>717878714
>>717870876 (OP)
I really don't get why Afrobull isn't going after them. It would be one thing to be using a more unique artist mix, but the artist is literally just using Afrobull.
Anonymous No.717876775
>>717870876 (OP)
You may as well just generate your own fantasies if you're going to consume an AI VN

>>717871781
I've noticed this too, for some reason the people who post and use AI the most are the ones most allergic to reading the documentation. It takes a few minutes to learn how to inpaint and I still see hands with the wrong amount of fingers.
Anonymous No.717877029 >>717877127 >>717878079
>>717873850
>You can go to civitai right now
ACK
Anonymous No.717877083 >>717877407
>>717876101
yes, the majority of people who play games are normalfags, this is an objective truth, but anyone who isnt an autistically obsessed contrarian can agree that if the style and execution looks good, AI images are fine to include in a game, especially if its some itch tier vn. it is also very disingenous of you to imply art direction is impossible to control with AI, and just because the art is bot handmade, that doesnt mean that other parts are AI too. gpt tier writing is unaccaptable however, thats where I draw the line
Anonymous No.717877127 >>717877263
>>717877029
Not him, but too bad for you britfag. Either use a VPN or escape that pathetic ass country while you STILL can.
Anonymous No.717877191
VNs were already killed by gacha trash so it's not like a deluge of shovelware OEVNs will have any affect.
The last time steam had a VN event it was just western tumblr garbage.
Anonymous No.717877263
>>717877127
torrents, huggingface and civarchive work fine
Anonymous No.717877407
>>717877083
>can agree that if the style and execution looks good, AI images are fine to include in a game, especially if its some itch tier vn
Nah. If anything it's a redflag for your itch tier vn.
Anonymous No.717877905
I could conceive of using AI to make incest VNs or EGs, because the genre more or less doesnt exist in the way i wish it did, on top of it being persecuted currently (in a manner of speaking).
For anything that i consider actual culture i cant stand AI, but if im gonna revert to my most debased instincts and urges AI will do
Anonymous No.717878023
>>717876436
>what is neuro-sama
grandpa wake up
Anonymous No.717878079
>>717877029
man you guys are literally fucking cooked if you don't eradicate your government soon
you're going to be genocided
Anonymous No.717878326
>>717876760
What is he supposed to do? There's no regulations against AI.
Anonymous No.717878564 >>717878681 >>717878910 >>717879065
Can't they steal from a less popular artist? I have Afrobull fatigue.
Anonymous No.717878681
>>717878564
You act like he is all over.
Anonymous No.717878714
>>717876760
Because he doesn't care, shocking I know
Anonymous No.717878798
>>717873750
get replaced tranny dogfucker
Anonymous No.717878910
>>717878564
for me it's akihiko yoshida
my vn would use this style
Anonymous No.717879065
>>717878564
I'd rather the less popular guys remain obscure
Anonymous No.717879297
>>717870934
You don't have to worry, it'll either become so advanced you wont recognise anything made by AI as such, or become progressively more retarded as future models are trained on regurgitated AI slop over and over like an inbred royal line before being abandoned.
Anonymous No.717879608
>>717870876 (OP)
AI is badass. People only hate it because they're scared they won't be able to tell the difference between the genuine and the artificial. And uh, ask them why is a computer's art worse than that of a human and it's just classic cyber-racism.
Anonymous No.717879992 >>717880729
>>717876436
>a whole genre of claudeplayspokemon
KINO. sign me up
Anonymous No.717880729 >>717888146
>>717879992
>claudeplayspokemon
This shit isnt even really new at all... wasnt there a Twitch plays pokemon like a DECACDE ago or something? that was much more exciting than some AI slop doing the same
Anonymous No.717880974
>>717870876 (OP)
AI slop will only serve to deepen a pre-existing association with VNs (wegshit especially) and low effort shovelware.
Anonymous No.717883450
>>717871329
This but make the babysitter a futa.
Anonymous No.717883593
>>717870934
FPBP
Anonymous No.717884170 >>717884419 >>717893146 >>717901425
>>717870876 (OP)
>>717870934
congrats, you fags. Your constant anti-AI whining has given me anti-AI fatigue

fuck you, you are on the same level as reddit and tumblr users
Anonymous No.717884419
>>717884170
Don't even pretend you were ever "neutral" about this, pajeet.
Anonymous No.717884734
You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. It's sad that you don't know the difference.
Anonymous No.717884880
>>717871006
according to the tranny site (vndb) there's like 50k existing visual novels
you have enough vns to last you a lifetime
if you're ok with ai, why not skip the middleman and just use sillytavern?
Anonymous No.717885716
>>717874932
Jpgs don't intrinsically have more value because they were drawn by hand.
Anonymous No.717886006 >>717886170
>>717870934
Sorry, I love it and I will continue to use it. It's a fun way to spend some time just like video games. It's not going away so don't bother trying to gaslight people.
Anonymous No.717886012
>>717870934
Ok tranny
Anonymous No.717886145
>>717873337
Have you seen how many people have been using AI? They have several websites that show you the increase in usage. I'm sorry but people like you are in the minority. It's only growing.
Anonymous No.717886170 >>717886241 >>717887394
>>717886006
I've spent more time on doing stuff like building datasets and training Loras then playing video games for the past few years. You honestly can never really run out of stuff to train. Shame that local image gen has kind of hit a wall though.
Anonymous No.717886241
>>717886170
Yeah it's unfortunate along with corporate censorship, so I'm hoping some guys get together and make a new server like CivitAI but without any censorship. I would literally pay a monthly subscription for that.
Anonymous No.717886334 >>717886387
>>717870876 (OP)
Probably a bad thing because none of them are really worth buying, or reading for that matter. AI can barely shit out a cohesive narrative let alone real, proper kino like pic related.
Anonymous No.717886387
>>717886334
>buying a VN
KEK
Anonymous No.717886431
>>717870876 (OP)
The last thing VNs need to do is put in even less effort.
Especially EVNs, that genre could be deleted off the planet and nobody would suffer.
Anonymous No.717886746 >>717886912 >>717888353 >>717895617
2022:
>Hey, this new AI thing is pretty cool, look at all the cool images I can generate

2025:
>Noooooooooo not the heckin AI, this is the worst thing in the world and I must hurry up and call it "slop" to show that I am morally superior

Fascinating how quickly people turned.
Anonymous No.717886912 >>717887303 >>717887636 >>717889985
>>717886746
It's two different groups of people. The first group still likes AI, and the second one has hated it from the start. At most some people in the first group like AI but wish that people would stop mass uploading every single fucking "1girl, best quality, bobs and vagene" generation that they've ever genned.
Anonymous No.717887303
>>717886912
>wish that people would stop mass uploading every single fucking "1girl, best quality, bobs and vagene" generation that they've ever genned.
I agree, but I think I can kind of understand why that happens. It's a dopamine hit. They, from their perspective, think they have something cool and unique to share so they upload and don't realize how many other people did the same thing.
Most people who do that really only get into it on a entry level and don't dive into the full autism that can be AI genning when you start exploring things like advanced tags, tag mixing, loras or inpainting. Image gen is a tool like any other and the more effort you put in the more you get back. It still makes me laugh that whenever I check out Japanese AI stuff on DLsite that pretty much all of them are just using the "Default" NAI style.
Anonymous No.717887346
Even children nowadays can spot AI in seconds since now every school has that one cringe kid trying to look talented saying that they made their AIslop even though everyone just points out that it's obviously AI.
Anonymous No.717887378
>>717870876 (OP)
a.i in the writing sure, but a.i cg's are absolute trash in wegs or vn's it has to be 3dcg or cartoony otherwise its fucking garbage, a.i is good for somethings but the way it makes art is weird and i don't like it
Anonymous No.717887394 >>717887603 >>717887713
>>717886170
Is training stuff locally for Loras actually complicated? i can gen a lot of stuff but using other people's Loras... i wonder how demanding training on my own actually is.
I dont expect to be spoonfed but i'd have to look this up. Sometimes you just dont find a character you really want even on civitai
Anonymous No.717887603 >>717887709 >>717887713
>>717887394
Not really. You just really need the GPU memory at the end of the day. I can't really provide guides since there really is no modern guides and all the older guides reflect training on SD1.5 and not SDXL. You can look up something called Easy Training Scripts on Github if you want to look into a pretty easy to use trainer. Always train on base models if you can. Ex If you are using Illustrious or a Noob variant then train your loras on Illustrious base.
Anonymous No.717887636 >>717888080
>>717886912
More like "took our jerb" coping from dogfucking furries. Literally no one cares about ai goyslop other than artfags that are getting replaced, and it's a good thing because they deserve it.
Anonymous No.717887709
>>717887603
They put viruses like trojans in those models.
Anonymous No.717887713 >>717887978
>>717887394
nta but it's not really complicated but it's a time investment to get it set up and to read a tutorial. I made I think 3 loras(pic related is one of them) and it came out almost exactly how I wanted it to.

>>717887603
I'm still confused as to why some pony loras work on IL, I took a 6 month genning break and haven't asked anyone about it so I don't know why that is lol.
Anonymous No.717887784
AI fatigue
Anonymous No.717887872
>DALL-E General
Anonymous No.717887978 >>717888205 >>717888371
>>717887713
Pony and Illustrious are both using SDXL as their base so obviously there is some cross compability between them. Pony is a burnt piece of shit though in comparison to Noob and Illustrious.
Anonymous No.717888047
>>717870876 (OP)
call me when ai is used to give them real gameplay
Anonymous No.717888080 >>717888228 >>717888352
>>717887636
The competent artfags are incorporating this shit into their workflows. The ones that are seething are the ones that only know how to draw a pair of tits.

It's like photography. The ones seething are the ones that only know how to take selfies of their tits. The competent artfags actually know how to stage a scene properly, and have both an eye for noticing flaws and the knowledge of how to correct them.
Anonymous No.717888146
>>717880729
twitch plays pokemon was never interesting. if you want to participate so badly just play the game yourself.
Anonymous No.717888205
>>717887978
pony has less bias towards generating niggers, at least the horsefuckers arent nigger lovers like weebs are.
Anonymous No.717888228 >>717888693 >>717888749
>>717888080
AIslop images lose all of their magic once people figure out it was churned out by a computer with no effort so nobody cares about them besides maybe the one jeet asking for the proompt.
Anonymous No.717888342
>>717870876 (OP)
That's not AI slop, unlike you nodraws I can spot it right away.
Anonymous No.717888352 >>717888481
>>717888080
>The ones that are seething are the ones that only know how to draw a pair of tits.
Pretty much. The people who are really seething are the ones who charge like 100 to 200 bucks for a full body commission and they deserve it. I can sit down, build a small dataset for a character if that character isn't known, train a Lora and then gen that character doing pretty much whatever I desire and get that result in less than a minute compared to waiting weeks for a commission.
Anonymous No.717888353
>>717886746
why do people attach text to wojak image posts?
do you think your opinion has value?
Anonymous No.717888371
>>717887978
Oh I see. I thought they were heavy tunes like NAI was.
Anonymous No.717888481 >>717888704 >>717891690
>>717888352
People that buy commissions from artists tend to want it by that specific artist with their own unique artstyle and they want the real thing, not some bootleg offbrand garbage variant aka AIslop.
Anonymous No.717888569
I can talk to AI and have any story I want.
Anonymous No.717888693 >>717893248
>>717888228
Maybe if you weren't such a lying asshole at all times people would have sympathy for you being replaced instead of cheering it on.
Anonymous No.717888704
>>717888481
It's so sad that grok is holding a gun to their heads and stopping them from commissioning anything from their favorite artist.
Anonymous No.717888749
>>717888228
>muh jerb
No one cares. Cope harder, xir.
Anonymous No.717889985
>>717886912
>The first group still likes AI, and the second one has hated it from the start.
I know several people who loved it from the start, but now give me shit every time I dare post something.
Anonymous No.717890042
>>717870934
Then stop using technology.
Anonymous No.717891418 >>717891870
>>717870876 (OP)
This is unironically an improvement for WEGs though.
Anonymous No.717891690 >>717893494
>>717888481
Do you commision? I used to spend literal thousands in USD for commissions but AI is unironically better and less naggy too. I can literally gen Krekkov but not gay or Sakimichan but not 1girl, standing. You can be really specific too and not have to worry about extra fees.

Also most commissioners don't really care so long as it looks good and it's the lowest bidder. People that care about getting a specific commission with a specific style are more rare than you think, and also do it partially for clout.
Anonymous No.717891830
Can ghosts really be femboys? And you can’t fuck a ghost.
Anonymous No.717891870
>>717891418
It's just a different flavor of slop. At least the average WEG was so bad it was funny... you cant even do that with AI.
Anonymous No.717891903
>>717870876 (OP)
Its a double edged sword. On one hand it lowers the bar for entry for creative writers, but on the other hand the lowered entry barrier also makes it easier for asset flips/scammers to churn out utter garbage.
Anonymous No.717892059
>>717870934
This.
Anonymous No.717892135
>>717870876 (OP)
it's a bad thing because worthless weeb trash like yourself will make threads about it
Anonymous No.717892202
>>717871867
he sounds like an egotistical asshole
Anonymous No.717892237 >>717893001
>>717870876 (OP)
Nice afrobull lora.
Anonymous No.717893001 >>717893568
>>717892237
Cheaper then play him hundreds for image.
Anonymous No.717893146
>>717884170
you forgot your cat image
Anonymous No.717893235
>>717870876 (OP)
It's a bad thing because retards don't have the wit to wrangle AI into making anything tasteful. For example, I could immediately tell that this was a poor imitation of Afrobull's style. No creativity.
>>717870934
FPBP
Anonymous No.717893248
>>717888693
>People
Indians aren't people
Anonymous No.717893414
AI generated boys will never be as cute as real drawn boys
Anonymous No.717893494 >>717893701
>>717891690
Do you? If your average commission experience is the artist being "naggy" i'm guessing you're one of those nigger client who would try to scam a 10 dollar comm
Anonymous No.717893568 >>717893685 >>717894228 >>717894382 >>717896021
>>717870876 (OP)
I wish afrobull would sue this thieving faggot, It's clearly his art being stolen and this is the rudest shit anyone can do to a artist.
>>717893001
Actual kike behavior
Anonymous No.717893685 >>717894046
>>717893568
you're so fucking retarded lol
Anonymous No.717893701 >>717894498
>>717893494
My average commission was well above 100usd minimum. I still get spam in my DM to commission some literal who Brazilian shitskin even though I haven't done any for years now. I've also been scammed by an actual artist that later was outed for tracing.

Anyways a good chunk of the "good" commissioners switched to Skeb anyways. Enjoy your nigger clients though, you deserve it.
Anonymous No.717894046
>>717893685
You can barely form a sentence and you're calling people retarded, Ai faggots breed of retard on this site, Probably an actual pajeet too
Anonymous No.717894228 >>717894449
>>717893568
Dude is already well off and he probably is from a 3rd world country too. Anyways AI art is like piracy for artists, which is based.
Anonymous No.717894382
>>717893568
>other people doing work I could be doing instead are stealing from me
oh cool, could you come to my place later and steal some housework? been a while since I washes my floors
Anonymous No.717894449
>>717894228
>you wouldn't pirate an art style
t. all anime
Anonymous No.717894498 >>717894803
>>717893701
I draw about as much as you commission
Anonymous No.717894803 >>717894881 >>717895241
>>717894498
Just so you know. I wouldn't pay a single cent for pretty much all the stuff that gets posted in the drawthread or commission thread on this site. Frankly I don't even want it as free if it looks like shit. I'd rather spend 100-200 minimum for something decent than pay 30 for a shit drawing. Even if I returned to commissioning now I'll just use Skeb since it's genuinely better and safer. Of course none of words mean nothing because you do art as a passion rather than a job so it's all good.
Anonymous No.717894881
>>717894803
>none of my words*
Anyways I'm heading to eat real quick.
Anonymous No.717894915
>>717870934
FPBP
Anonymous No.717895038
Indian/Israeli shill thread.
Eat a dick, faggots.
Anonymous No.717895056
>>717870876 (OP)
I use AI to help me write smut, otherwise I wouldn't be writing any
Anonymous No.717895241 >>717904514
>>717894803
Ofc you wouldn't now, you wouldn't before. Idk why ai fags have to be so asshurt all the time
Anonymous No.717895609
>>717870934
I've got ai fatigue
Anonymous No.717895617
>>717886746
The INSTANT their careers and jobs are personally threatened it suddenly becomes a problem.
Anonymous No.717895701
>>717870934
Seething inkcel.
Anonymous No.717895802
>>717871006
I'm sure those VNs will be amazing because of all the effort went into making them, and not just stereotypical, formulaic, unending slop.
Anonymous No.717895880 >>717896351 >>717897876
So where is the great AI content? All the discussion always seems to be about whether a single image now can fool people into thinking it was drawn by a real person.
Anonymous No.717895895
>>717870934
That's because you're white
Anonymous No.717896021
>>717893568
Get fucked fag. Total IP death.
Anonymous No.717896263
>>717870876 (OP)
I saw screenshots of one of the latest AI coomslop VNs released on steam, jesus christ the clothes on sprites and in CGs don't even match, and someone pays real money for that
Anonymous No.717896351 >>717896565 >>717896772
>>717895880
It's on Pixiv. For some reason, westerners are unable to make god AI gens.
Anonymous No.717896565
>>717896351
Single images were already worthless even before AI, especially fucking anime art. With anime art it feels like we got AI 10 years earlier than with the rest.
Anonymous No.717896772 >>717897036
>>717896351
Are you saying the Japanese make the best AI art? They usually use Midjourney or Nijijourney, that's lame.
Anonymous No.717897036
>>717896772
Or NAI too, but most of the ones I see on twitter use those others.
Anonymous No.717897595
>>717870934
Well guess what, its not going anywhere.
With AI, we're at the equivilent of being in the late 90s with the internet.
Its in its infancy and most soulful moment where you're free to do what you like with no restrictions or laws.
10 years from now itll be
>everywhere, including your toaster and your coffee machine
>required to exist in society
>heavily controlled by corporate and govts
Anonymous No.717897876 >>717897990
>>717895880
twitter is the best place. but it's like sifting for gold
Anonymous No.717897990
>>717897876
Again, no one cares about single images. Even before AI people have looked 2-3 seconds at a top tier piece of art and moved on.
Anonymous No.717898091 >>717898313
>>717871696
imagine thinking the billionaire owners of ai are going to let you do whatever you want to escape a system designed to keep you in factories lmao.
Anonymous No.717898154 >>717898269
Why are AIbros always so detached from reality? No one wants mass produced low effort slop.
Anonymous No.717898210
AI is pumped by people with 0 skills of their own.Why even have a game when you can just watch AI generated video?
Anonymous No.717898269
>>717898154
>No one wants mass produced low effort slop.
I do, but just when I want to jerk off. I don't want it in my retail games.
Anonymous No.717898271
>>717870934
I have anti-ai fatigue.
Anonymous No.717898313 >>717898441
>>717898091
AIbros are utterly delusional
It's extra funny when they're so used to Claude with 10 layers of jailbreaks and gaslighting that they think this is the default experience and videogames will become some coomer paradise and not a bland, shallow, moderated hellhole where you're only allowed to talk with NPC's about the weather
Anonymous No.717898350
>>717870876 (OP)
this thing finished yet?
Anonymous No.717898382
Just going to wait and see. The only thing I'm 100% sure of is that no one can predict anything with AI.
Anonymous No.717898410 >>717898635
>sloppa art
I don't give a fuck as long as it's somewhat cohesive
>sloppa writing
fucking dropped
Anonymous No.717898432
What percentage of 4chan is Indian now? 30%? 40%?
Anonymous No.717898441
>>717898313
this should be using ai as an assistant. i've fixed so many problems in unreal engine 5 by just using chatgpt as a search engine. i describe my problem, and ask it to check online first before trying to fix it itself. that same search in google is nearly useless at this point.
Anonymous No.717898635
>>717898410
This, basically. Samey bot-isms come through a lot more consistently in text.
Anonymous No.717899956
>>717870934
First Post Best Post.
Anonymous No.717900037
>>717870876 (OP)
Only a small number of vns are worth a time. Zero of AI shit worth anything.
Anonymous No.717900642
>>717870934
I have bitching-about-AI fatigue
Anonymous No.717900810
>>717870876 (OP)
It's a great thing, let prompt monkeys train AI until it's able to make flawless animated porn and replace all of the whining and bitching artfags.
Anonymous No.717900832 >>717901056
>ai jeet thread
2 MORE WEEKS SAAR
Anonymous No.717900876
>>717870934
/thread and fpbp
AIfags need to stay in their containment threads
Anonymous No.717900924
>VN
I have like 30 high quality VNs installed and I don't even read them. Can we stop pretending entertainment content is sparse? AI hit when there was already unlimited amount of entertainment.
Anonymous No.717900927
i don't like ai and i don't like visual novels
Anonymous No.717900932
>>717870934
its not that I hate the tech it's the fucking forced spam by everyone who wants it to work so badly
Anonymous No.717900949 >>717903374
>>717870876 (OP)
I don't give a shit that they're being made but I find it genuinely concerning that it has an audience that'll actually pay money for it.
Do people seriously have no standards at all anymore? Like AT ALL?
Anonymous No.717901056 >>717901115
>>717900832
more like 2 more years until you have to find a real job
Anonymous No.717901115
>>717901056
you said the same shit with crypto remember?
Anonymous No.717901204
>>717870876 (OP)
They're all slop. I guess it makes sense, if AI slop indians had any form of intelligence and a creative mind they would actually learn how to do art for their VNs or pay someone to do it for them while they were writing the script.
Anonymous No.717901219
>>717870934
>3 AI shill threads on the catalog
>plus the only general allowed on /v/
Why are the mods protecting these shitskin faggots so much
Anonymous No.717901308
>>717870934
FPBP but your post won't do shit
Pray for the bubble to burst sooner so we can be rid of the jeet scourge.
Anonymous No.717901425
>>717884170
You had anti-AI fatigue long since day one
Anonymous No.717901523
>>717870876 (OP)
>afrobvull
Goated choice of reference. As long as you remove the futa shit
Anonymous No.717901551
https://x.com/venturetwins/status/1954741507266855394
Anonymous No.717903374
>>717900949
50% of people have no standards, and then the other 50% have high standards. The scary thing about this however is that both of them talk the same online, so you cant tell them apart.
Anonymous No.717904412
>>717870876 (OP)
they need to make it so you dont have to declare AI usage on steam anymore
if its shittily used and looks bad, everyone will know and can thus avoid it
if you cant tell then it shouldnt matter if theyre using it or not
Anonymous No.717904514
>>717895241
Want me to post a few of my Skeb commission prices? I have no idea what you mean about being asshurt, I'm having fun genning whatever I want. Not only that I don't have to pay a single cent to artists or go through the tedius commission process. If I have an idea I can just gen it, even refine it if I want a bit more perfection.

The opposite is more true anyways. Sucks to suck but you'll spend the rest of your life seething at a tool. Have fun!
Anonymous No.717906645
>>717870876 (OP)
>westoid garbage
>"""visual novel"""
Anonymous No.717907117
>>717870876 (OP)
Nobody will read a shitty AI visual novel.