Thread 717902112

Yes, correct.
It was fun, and the writing was in a decent spot relative to everything that came after it, in that it wasn't flanderised and obnoxious.
The world was tight and interesting, and it wasn't filled to bursting with memes and lefty politics.

Yes, it hit well at the time and progression in all ways was really fun

>>717902112 (OP)
Games like Borderlands 1 and 2, and Diablo-likes, are my favorite "brain on auto pilot and just kill things" games ever.
But nitpicky faggots will shit on anything that is fun to play.

It is.

Nothing comes close to the tone and feel of BL1s writing

It felt real, that the residents of pandora were driven half-mad by living on the wild west hell planet and not just "zomg so le epic randomz"

>>717903385
I always thought of myself as a gameplay-first kinda guy, that I could play mostly every game and ignore anything not-gameplay if it was good enough.
Then I played TPS.
And later 3.

Fuck no lol
This game is boring as hell, shittiest gunplay I saw in a while

>>717903564
I had to quit TPS halfway through because of the writing.
Couldn't do it.

Borderlands is fun with friends. I can't imagine playing it not co-op. It's like playing an MMO without the M the M or the O. You'd have to be a fuckin' lunatic.

>want to play the original
>can't buy it anywhere, just the DEnhanced version

>>717903723
Same, and it really pissed me off because I was actually enjoying the gameplay, a lot.

>>717903734
>MMO without the M the M or the O.
>massively
>4 players max

>>717903746
It comes with the original

>>717903746
Its actually fine, they somehow didn't fuck it up with gearbox's track record

>>717902112 (OP)
It's a shitty halo clone with a stolen art style and also started the looter shooter trend.
t. bought it on launch on xbox360

>>717903827
>it's like
>like
It's a comparative statement. Nowhere was the implication that Borderlands WAS an MMO, only that to enjoy it you'd have to be one of those crazies that actually play MMOs singleplayer.
Get a fucking grip you illiterate nigger.

There's this very specific feeling I get from the first area of the first Borderlands: the heavy shadows with the clear blue sky remind me of early morning in summer when I was a child.
I don't really know how to explain it: never seen any other game with that kind of atmosphere. Makes it feel like you're about to head out on adventure because it seems like Summer is just beginning.

>>717903892
Ironically, some of the OG Halo team would go on to copy-paste and arguably popularize the model further with Destiny.

>>717903746
https://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/compare-and-buy-cd-key-for-digital-download-borderlands-goty-edition/

bl1 was pretty okay but it's mind boggling how they seemed to intentionally came to the wrong conclusion on just about everything in it in regards to the sequel
>people find claptrap kind of annoying because he keeps yelling about all those missions you don't give a fuck about in new game+? better make constantly being as obnoxious as possible the beginning, middle, and end of his personality, as well as every interaction with or about him being how everyone hates him haha get it gamers we are in on the joke

>>717904081
That always seemed strange to me: first time I saw BL was watching my friends play it, and everyone loved Claptrap.
Was not prepared for the BL2 hate campaign.

>>717902112 (OP)
Yes. It is a good adventure. Cool characters, just enough humor to be funny while actually being about a treasure hunting on a junkyard desert planet full of madmen cannibals, bandits, monsters, evil corpo paramilitary and trigger-happy aliens. It was just serious enough to be cool and funny enough to be, well, funny without dropping the cool part.
Second and onwards are just shitty dramas shitting on characters from previous games by killing them (least bad scenario), turning them into miserable whiners, turning them into miserable jobbers (just imagine - fucking siren bounty hunter can't just pull a simple gun from a holster and drop this shitty villain by shooting his guts out even if some anti-siren depowerer is active), or turning them into obnoxious retards - courtesy of Randy fucking Pitchford and Anthony fucking Burch. And even humor was overdone in a bad way, while funny setting-fitting elemental "fatalities" were cut away.

>>717902112 (OP)
Reminder, that "unofficial patch" and "map enchancement" mods (by the same author) exist for the original version, that fix a lot of bugs (including classmods), respawns and other problems and unfinished moments (some are fixed in demaster, but demaster is unoptimized shit with new bugs).
Mods are available on nexus and on author's github.

>>717902112 (OP)
Is Borderlands 4 better than playing Borderlands 1 four times?

>>717902112 (OP)
Coal burner

>>717902112 (OP)
I thought I could endure the pre sequel because 2 wasn't TOO awful.
Worst mistake of my life.

>>717902112 (OP)
My one big memory of this game is how enemies on the other side of the planet hits you with pretty much every shot.

>>717903723
Son of a TAINT!!!!

>>717903854
Anon it has a memory leak that has still not been fixed

>>717902112 (OP)
I think It's massively overrated

>>717902112 (OP)
HORRIBLE balance

the driving is genuinely fucking awful

>>717906402
I just vaguely remember that the KBM controls were kinda weird but it never bothered me that much. So I ended up being the designated driver for my friends.

>>717902112 (OP)
citation needed

>>717903892
>halo clone
in what way

>>717902112 (OP)
At the time everyone thought Borderlands 2 was better, but these days it’s clear that 1 was better and is the only one that aged not terribly.

>>717906402
the famous racing game Borderlands

BL1 still manages to have the best shotguns in the series, in my opinion.

Borderlands 1 for me is the best game to play with friends. the second one is for extreme loner autists that enjoys grinding all day long

>>717906479
yeah, they were ripped off from Halo CE's warthog controls- so you hold W to go forward and move the camera around to steer.

>>717902112 (OP)
Borderlands was never good

>>717902112 (OP)
It's not. It was a healthy mix of jank and fun which was a breath of fresh air at the time.

Mashers were GOAT. accuracy of apisol, stopping power of a shotgun, a lvl 15 one got me trough most of the game.

And that enemy AI change once the Crimson Lance appears? *chef's kiss* youre so used to suicidal tribals then youre suddenly opposed by enemies that actively flank you and take cover was such a great paradigm shift

I like that purples and oranges are really rare for a long time in borderlands 1 compared to the later entries where they start shitting them out like candy

>>717906742
your point being? you spend a lot of time driving in the game and there are literally missions designed around driving.

any other smartass comment you want to make lil' pup?

the only thing i remember from the borderlands games is the dlc where you fight zombies (dr zed?) that was really fun coop with a friend and all the annoying as fuck characters that won't shut the fuck up and stop being lolrandum

>>717903723
I never played that but I couldn't even get through 3's tutorial mission where you're stuck slowly walking across the map listening to the underwear cape guy. Completely unbearable.

All of them are good
Borderlands 3 is the worst. But it’s fun for a grindy shootan if you ignore the faggots and tranny dialogue

>>717907128
Yeah
You gay

>>717902112 (OP)
The ost was never as good as this one

>>717906887
Literally only a bl3 problem, legendaries are even rarer in 2

>>717902112 (OP)
bl1 is the best game in the series

>>717903960
Dont forget it did have day and night cycle and it the setting is in the desert. With that said, it is very much superb atmosphere, they nailed it.

BL1 had a really nice atmosphere, and I liked that it was largely a serious tone and story that just had a few fun characters here and there.
Actually cautiously optimistic for 4 because of it supposedly pushing for a more serious tone again. I mostly didn't mind the sillier tone in 2 (outside a few really dumb side content), but 3 went way too far with the humour IMO.

>>717909680
I'm not touching 3 since I claim to have standards yet I fell for the pre sequel, let's make it clear, the game having humor isn't the problem.
The humor being obnoxious liberal safe edgy gruel pushed down your ear holes by nails-scratching-on-a-chalkboard type voice actors ( all frauds ) is the reason for it being shit. It's enough to trigger a mass shooting event.

BL4 better be good

>>717903746
Pretty sure the original version and its dlcs are bundled with the enhanched version.

>>717903746
>buy
just pirate it you dingus

>>717902112 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPE9ZX8Grzg

>>717902112 (OP)
it would be if guns had good sounds and animations

>>717902112 (OP)
It's like a 7.5/10
I don't think I could play the game without background noise, that said, it's very comfy with said background noise.
Skill trees and weapon concepts are pretty fucking basic.
Zombie Island is some of the best atmosphere I've encountered in gaming.
There isn't a story until the General Knoxx DLC, but Knoxx is one of the best characters the series created.
It's a lot less annoying than later entries.

Why did the sequels have so much cringe humor and writing in general? I'd also say the character designs got a lot gayer as well. Shit like tiny tina or whatever she is called.

I've never actually played the rest of the games only BL1.

>>717902112 (OP)
TTW > BL3 > BL2 > TPS > BL1

>>717903564
>And later 3.
You didn't like talking to fat Lilith?

>>717902112 (OP)
I think all the games in the series have value. Later installments add much needed QoL stuff, better loot, and other mechanics. Shame about the writing being so bad but I do still occasionally smirk at some of the silliness. I never played tiny Tina's wonderland though. Is that any good?

>>717902112 (OP)
It’s an okay game

I will play through the worst writing of the Borderlands series multiple times over than ever touch any other looter shooter.
Nothing else hits the same.

>>717914250
I genuinely hate you

>>717914250
>Wonderlands first
Yeah, I dunno about that.

>>717902112 (OP)
Borderlands 4 is going to be good, I can feel it.

>>717916703
Sex with vex

>>717914250
Tales > BL2 > BL3 DLCs > BL1 > TTW > TPS > BL3 basegame > NuTales

>>717917324
>tales
Faggot. Retards like you that slopped up TaleTell “games” unironically ruined gaming

>>717917663
You never played the game

>>717916703
Considering they're using the same writer (sam winkler) from bl3, I really really doubt it

>>717914136
Flanderization

crazy how this series is so popular

>>717915835
Then stop obsessing over me glowie.
>i hate this person who I watch 24/7 and follow everywhere he goes

>BL2
>Anywhere near top 3
Imagine loving slagshit

>>717918069
I think he's improved since BL3.

>>717916703
Good gameplay, bad everything else.
I don't see the series reaching its potential until Randy Bobandy is gone.

>>717918294
UVHM was a mistake

>>717918294
bro i just play siren for auto slag

>>717918265
The games always sell for ridiculously cheap not long after releasing, usually with all the DLC bundled in, so it’s hard for most people to not have played them

>>717902112 (OP)
Yes. The writing isn't even that much better it's just not as in your face. Most importantly, you almost never have the gameplay actually stop to let the character talk unlike Borderlands 2 where you're constantly waiting for dialogue to finish.

>>717918561
It has serviceable gameplay. None of the mechanics click with one another but it’s mindless enough to enjoy fucking around with the occasional Skinner Box dopamine rush you get from a new random weapon drop

>>717914562
>better loot
No, BL1 has the best guns by far. Guns have only become worse as the series goes on. Manufacturer gimmicks got leaned into way too hard and there are way too many part restrictions. I still find wholly unique gun combos from time to time in BL1.

>>717903723
>get to the hub
>required to just stand there and wait while characters make shitty jokes over the comms
>over five minutes pass
>they're still talking
>turn off the game and never play again

>>717918989
Hail is one of the most unique designs in the games though

>>717902112 (OP)
My dream game would be the gameplay of 2 (minus slag, and all it's fucky balance issues in late meta), and the (virtually non-existent) plot intensity of 1
I don't care about anything else
>>717903564
CROIKEY, YOU DON'T WANNA BUTTSLAM FROZEN BADDIES EVERY 3 SECONDS? IT'S THE MOON BTW

>>717918989
It also has pearls. I'm not sure what fucking crack they were smoking at gearbox to think that removing the ultimate grinding carrot- anoints are not even close as a replacement. It's all diablo style "15% more damage if you haven't wiped your ass recently" type shit

>>717903564
> ignore anything not-gameplay
The problem is when the shitty dialogue actively interferes with the gameplay.
Even BL2 I can only play with the mod that lets you skip dialogue. Not just because the writing is shit, but because you're forced to wait until it's over to get back to the gameplay.

>>717918069
Pretty sure nowadays Sam Winkler himself agrees that BL3 writing sucked.

Best part about BL1 was that a good item scaled. ARPG’s nowadays have you replace your item per level, but for BL1, you could get a strong epic that could carry for 5 levels at least. The main issues it had was that action skills were dooky ass and there was no plot. But considering where the plot went, maybe that's a good thing

>>717903960
well put

I wonder how many people here have played 3's DLCs. Because the writing in them was actually a stark improvement over the basegame.

>>717902112 (OP)
bl1 is still my favorite by far

brick + the absolute INSANE state of revolvers (sound design absolutely btfos every other gunsound) > bl3 (purely on vanilla gameplay) > bl2
more objectively it would be bl3 > 2 > 1

>i will never punch people into exploding meat masses while yelling ever again while playing as a literal meat man
it's over.

>>717919456
I mean, the lack of plot let you fill in the blanks anyway. I was 100% just motivated by playing the game itself.
First time you open a red chest- boom, loot dopamine. And you're telling me there's a vault with giga treasure in it? Sold. Boom, player motivated.
There's a big lancer armoury full of guns? Yup, I'm raiding that shit.
It was extremely genuine, even though the games "voice" is incredibly sarcastic. The rest of the games aren't, it's constant "and then and then and then" random bullshit. Oh no, Maya got clapped! Cool, I don't care. Chasing vaults, already know there's no loot. Don't care. You play it for the same reason you level characters in wow: to get to the end of the lame story so you can spam bosses/instances you actually enjoy.

>>717919664
3's DLCs and updates put it over the top of every BL game so far imo.
>more guns
>more builds
>eventual player-made scaling difficulty ranging from absolute room clearers (root) to regular ass shooting guns to cool synergies (angel, dark army)
a relative variety of difficulty to grind shit from, good feeling gunplay and honestly the variety and how far you can push so many guns in bl3 without crutching too hard on 1 specific tree is honestly just amazing

those stupid fucks at gearbox really need to not have so many anti-melee mechanics though, like what the fuck.
>play wonderlands
>final boss literally cannot be beaten pure melee
>dlc boss has an anti melee phase
>boss has anti melee field, water hurts you, runs away

even in bl3 was some fucking bullshit.

>>717911501
I hope it is, the Viking looks fun at least.

i recently just played it. The artstyle is great and it is amazing how BORING the game is. Literally nothing happens in it, You just follow a list of quests. To any of you who agree with OP, play the game now, don't be fooled by your nostalgia and see how shitty it is.

The quests being like that arent even the only problem. The guns drops just feels so toxic thinking of where iit led the gaming industry to, the guns dont even feel that great, the world is empty, the quests are lineal but also boring because nothing really changes in them but you just do the same thing over and over.

I'll admit i just played an hour because i couldnt take more of that crap, so if you want you can covinnce me to continue

>>717903723
i cant remember much of it but i enjoyed watching the downfall of jack unfold until he becomes who we all know and love

It hooks you in at first but I always end up bored by the time I get to raids.
>>717904004
Not wrong but I was shocked how much dedstinky 1 ended up being a blatant wowclone. Felt like the interns they dumped it on searched for "how to make an mmo" and found a list comprised mainly of wow mechanics.

>>717919664
The Jack casino was pretty good and the cowboy one was okay, I don't remember the gay cthulu one very well and I honestly forgot about the krieg one

>>717906760
Absolutely, loved my headpopper shotguns in 1. Also I miss S&S machine pistols with infinite ammo and rof.

>>717920189
please answer to my post

honestly borderlands 2 is also really good. the atmosphere created by the visuals and music is incredible. when the characters aren't yammering at you there can be this really affecting experience of wandering a beautiful but desolate place amid gunfire. also when the jokes aren't reliant on the dialogue -- when they are visual or integrated into the game interface or dependent on players acting out the punchline -- they can be pretty good, like that quest where you kill yourself for Jack or that one with the cursed gun or that one with hammerlock and the renamed monsters

>>717908186
i dont think the colors even matter anymore in borderlands 3. the balancing is fucking weird.

>>717919664
I only played the casino one and I didn't like it. I agree it was a massive improvement, it managed to climb from the cesspit of 3's base game writing to 2's levels, but that's still bad

>>717920189
>>717920661
fuck you guys

>>717903385
There's no denying it, Borderlands' god-tier gameplay loop is the only thing that saved 3.

BL1 is the best one. Best loot, best gun generation (actually based on the parts instead of a pre-determined rarity on spawn), the game is simple and there's few times where you're stuck standing while someone talks
BL2 changed this up by messing with the loot gen, the enemy scaling, and the story. I still liked some of the story because they really did do a good job with Handsome Jack and the environments were good. A lot more talking, though.
Didn't play TPS, just seemed like bl2 but more.

BL3 is a whole different beast. The best gameplay (I really loved it) but with such generous loot generation that I'm pretty sure by level 30 I had all slots filled with legendaries which really reduced how special they were especially since usually they wiped the floor with the other purples and blues I could find.
And then there's the talking. NPCs never shut up. Every mission you have some fucking asshole jabbering on in your ear. Almost every character is insufferable, annoying, or awful and they never EVER shut up. You're forced to sit and wait for people to talk. They talk while you're doing things. They talk while you're driving. I had to mute the dialogue and eventually I got rid of the subtitles too. I hated it, and I have little hope for BL4 in this regard.
That said, they do still know how to write, because I did find Mordecai's birthday party for the dead girl rather good. The bit where you're raiding the VIllain's base with all the other people was well done too. And they somehow made Tiny Tina less annoying purely by how much worse everyone else is. So there may be some hope, but it was so tiring.

Also, oddly enough, BL3 plays better solo than with friends. Player power level is so high that another player will just be stealing kills from you. There were times playing with a friend that I didn't get to do anything because they could kill everything so fast.

Fuck you Randy.
That movie was a waste of everything.

>>717905238
what mod/author? i found one "unofficial patch" by some MOW guy, but i dunno if that's the right guy. looking at his account he's got two different map tweak/fix mods.

>>717916703
it's a gay tumblr soap opera, it's about as far from good as you can get

>>717903892
Borderlands only resembles HALO's gameplay by the end of the loop when you've got all the good guns and most enemies are no longer bullet sponges. For most of a run, it's more like Diablo with guns.

>116 replies
>not a single Lilith picture

>>717918069
Sam wrote the DLCs iirc

>>717902112 (OP)
Currently playing through the full series for the first time in anticipation for 4, which I suspect will be kinda good for some reason. Skipped 1 because it didn't click with me back in the day, and getting near the end of 2 for the first time. It's definitely better than I remember, even if it's been stingy about epics/legendaries this run. Is there any DLC I shouldn't miss?

do you think there's going to be a risk of rain reference in 4

>>717923219
https://borderlands.fandom.com/wiki/Electric_Banjo

how did they get away with this?

>>717903854
>somehow didn't fuck it up
that's a joke right?
not a single patch arrived to fix issues that cropped up immediately after release
they also massively increased the drop rates, fucking up the perfectly fine loot progression for no reason at all

>>717920189
it is somewhat boring from a modern perspective
I'd say the game starts becoming fun halfway into the playthrough, it's a bit of a slog until then and the enemies aren't all that interesting

why is Tiny Tina's such trash compared to BL2?

>>717902112 (OP)
>Redditlands

>>717924189
Frosty said he was chill with it.

>>717919664
Bounty of blood is the only DLC i actually listen to

>>717903960
>remind me of early morning in summer when I was a child.
Are you from a favela or something?

>>717926997
What's wrong with it? I have it for free on epic game store, thinking about playing it

>>717929959
It's good for 1 playthrough but theres no end game

>>717903960
Im glad to see others feel similar. Maybe it resonates with me because I grew up in the nevada desert. That first area has my favorite atmosphere of all time ( tied with the first fable). I usually play through it at least 2 - 3 times a year. The difficulty, the noises, the travel distances, the look, the enemies, everything feels perfect. I would start a borderlands 1 playthrough on my deathbed.

>>717902112 (OP)
Its Expansions were fun, base game was a absolute slog and boring as fuck, it was more a tech demo for what could be in the future, and while it's expansions delivered, it's sequel was good from the start.

>>717903564
I ignored all of the dialogue in 3 and enjoyed it. Gameplay was the best out of all I played imo.

>>717904081
All the existing characters became either annoying or idiotic, thanks to Burch just reading a wiki instead of playing the damn game.
>Marcus was "just" a merchant and entrepreneur in BL1, becomes a turbo-jew in 2
>Zed was "just" a doctor who lost his medical licence because he can't do much with what he has besides cutting a bit too deep in BL1, becomes a turbo-retard "teehee I don't have a license" in 2
>Moxxi was "just" an entertainer with perhaps an impressively low body count (3 "husbands") if you remember that she lives in a world of violence and pain in BL1, becomes a turbo-slut that literally fucked half the planet in 2
>Scooter was "just" a mechanic in BL1, becomes a turbo-incestuous redneck stereotype in 2
I had no hopes for the series after this and it seems I was right because people can apparently be worse at writing than Anthony fucking Burch, SOMEHOW.

why the fuck this game is 64 bits but borderlands 2 isnt?

>>717918989
Also, the linear instead of exponential scaling meant that finding a gun that fit your playstyle was something great because you could keep using it for a while until you found another, while BL2 meant it was outclassed within like 20 minutes.