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Anonymous No.718005570 >>718005692 >>718005850 >>718005940 >>718005990 >>718006048 >>718006063 >>718006102 >>718006249 >>718006390 >>718006984 >>718007108 >>718007561 >>718007849 >>718007931 >>718008125 >>718008573 >>718010385 >>718010471 >>718013963 >>718015841 >>718025726 >>718027459 >>718027776 >>718028567 >>718029243 >>718031104 >>718032091 >>718033478 >>718034930 >>718036181 >>718037816 >>718038692 >>718039862 >>718041350 >>718041525 >>718041607 >>718041797 >>718043543 >>718045190 >>718045324 >>718045412 >>718045689 >>718046028 >>718047374 >>718049462 >>718051468
Sonic
Had there ever been a fandom that has been so aggressively in denial that the thing they like is bad? Not a single good game, ever. How has this franchise manged to survive this long?
Anonymous No.718005692 >>718005929 >>718008451 >>718013991 >>718025457 >>718033087 >>718034686 >>718035545 >>718037967 >>718045421
>>718005570 (OP)
>haters are still denying Sonic was kino in the 90s-early 00s
Anonymous No.718005809 >>718007674 >>718008285 >>718010623
Sonic has been coasting on his 90s fame like Snoop Dogg does
Anonymous No.718005850
>>718005570 (OP)
Souls sloppers are the modern day variety
Anonymous No.718005929 >>718007452
>>718005692
>Sonic was kino in the 90s-early 00s
1000% ASSMAD his favorite franchise has always been dog shite
Anonymous No.718005940 >>718006265
>>718005570 (OP)
Only the first four games are good, rest is trash
Anonymous No.718005980
Fromsoft trannies
Anonymous No.718005990 >>718006152 >>718006596
>>718005570 (OP)
modern mario fans (smrpg:r is lower effort than bdsp and you know it)
undertale/deltarune fans
Anonymous No.718006048 >>718033214
>>718005570 (OP)
We just need to bring back the Toei animated Sonic guys, that’ll fix everything
Anonymous No.718006063 >>718014719
>>718005570 (OP)
only Sonic 1, CD, 2 and 3&K are good. The rest is just SEGA desperately trying to make a good 3D platformer and falling flat on their faces every time
Anonymous No.718006102 >>718006260
>>718005570 (OP)
only franchise that comes close is modern pokemon, but sonic on the whole is more bad than good outside a select few gems
Anonymous No.718006148 >>718008725 >>718039059
Pokemon is way more embarrassing because it's quite literally the biggest IP in the world and they still put out low effort slop. Even Sonic treats the fanbase with more respect
Anonymous No.718006152
>>718005990
Man, if only SMRPG looked like the Mario & Rabbids games...
Anonymous No.718006249
>>718005570 (OP)
Tendies as soon as the Switch 2's scam model was announced.
Anonymous No.718006260
>>718006102
>pokΓ©mon
we know it’s mediocre, we just have an addiction
Anonymous No.718006265 >>718006402 >>718007042 >>718007278 >>718011060 >>718038629
>>718005940
Those games are trash too.
>1 - poor designed and unstable, this applies to all of them
>2 - uninspired copy-paste of the first with shitty sidkick
>CD - terrible time travel mechanic
>3 - literally unfinished, sold the second part as a separate game
Anonymous No.718006390 >>718006594 >>718007278 >>718008909 >>718009490 >>718009581 >>718013707 >>718027459 >>718035826 >>718041386
>>718005570 (OP)
>Not a single good game

The following Sonic games are good:
>Sonic 1
>Sonic 2
>Sonic 3 and Knuckles
>Sonic CD
>Sonic Adventure
>Sonic Adventure 2
>Sonic Advance
>Sonic Advance 2
>Sonic Advance 3
>Sonic Heroes
>Sonic Rush
>Sonic Riders
>Sonic Unleashed
>Sonic and the Black Knight (in places)
>Sonic Colors
>Sonic Generations
>Sonic and Allstars Racing Transformed
>Sonic Lost World (don't @ me, you just sucked at it)
>Sonic Mania
>Sonic Frontiers (in places)
>Sonic Superstars (in places)
>Shadow Generations.

I therefore find your statement to be erroneous and shortsighted. Good day.
Anonymous No.718006402 >>718006645
>>718006265
The first 3 aren't true and why would 4 matter in 2025?
Anonymous No.718006538
Modern sonic fans don't acknowledge the series pre-SA2. They're so buckbroken they think wanting good gameplay is toxic and you should only like sonic for hype moments and aura.
Anonymous No.718006594 >>718006719 >>718006798 >>718035826 >>718035902
>>718006390
>Sonic Advance
>Sonic Advance 2
>Sonic Advance 3
>Sonic Heroes
>Sonic Rush
>Sonic Riders
>Sonic Unleashed
>Sonic and the Black Knight (in places)
>Sonic Lost World
PPFFFFFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous No.718006596
>>718005990
>smrpg:r is lower effort than bdsp
I've been playing the original after playing the remake and it's amazing how they sucked every last drop of souls out of it, SMRPG on SNES is legit a 9/10 game with tons of good ideas and a unique atmosphere mixing Square's 90s style with Mario. The remake is generic slop by comparison. What a fucking travesty.
Anonymous No.718006645
>>718006402
>The first 3 aren't true
I played them a lot as a kid. Those games are shit, mate.

>why would 4 matter in 2025?
We really do have some Pokemon fans in this thread.
Anonymous No.718006719
>>718006594
Laughing at truths you cannot comprehend does not make them go away, anon.
Anonymous No.718006798 >>718007278 >>718016172 >>718045393
>>718006594
Unleashed is the best 3D Sonic in the series and it is time more people woke up to that reality.
Anonymous No.718006984 >>718008007 >>718009072 >>718009559
>>718005570 (OP)
Which girl's shit is Sonic eating?
Anonymous No.718007042
>>718006265
Filtered
Anonymous No.718007108 >>718007182
>>718005570 (OP)
How does this affect you
Anonymous No.718007115 >>718007253
>Sonic fans already starting with the cope
Sad.
Anonymous No.718007178
Sonic lives rent free on this board kek
Anonymous No.718007182 >>718008372
>>718007108
The annoying bastards keep making it my problem by never shutting the hell up.
Anonymous No.718007253
>>718007115
>creates thread to bait sonic fans
>gets mad when sonic fans respond
>???
Anonymous No.718007257 >>718031883
Sonic was always good
Anonymous No.718007278 >>718007417 >>718033287
>>718006265
1's worst criticism is the dogshit start-stop level design
>>718006390
>>718006798
insane delusion
Anonymous No.718007334 >>718009219
I played sonic 2 when I was 4 and even had sonic and tails painted on my bedroom wall, I am never ever going to stop being interested in the series
Anonymous No.718007417 >>718007504 >>718008284
>>718007278
I prefer the term "enlightenment."

Everyone has that one hill they are willing to die on, and "Sonic Unleashed is a great game" is mine. Been beating that drum since 2008.
Anonymous No.718007452
>>718005929
he's right.
Anonymous No.718007504 >>718007618
>>718007417
Sorry your dad hit you too hard as a kid
Anonymous No.718007561 >>718008408 >>718009339 >>718033463
>>718005570 (OP)
Nintendo shitcube fans. Not that there’s that many of them anyway but
>dogshit controller with the worst D-pad known to mankind that’s literally only good for smelee
>no bully
>no twistanity
>no budokai tenkaichi
>wrath of cortex capped at 30fps
>no silent hill
>no dmc
>no gta
>only has a dogshit remake of mgs1 that looks worse than mgs2 despite coming out after it
>worst 3D Mario
>most forgotten Mario kart
>paper Mario thousand year door has the first tranny in gaming
>half the first party games released are copy and pasted party game shovelware
>no burnout 3
>can't play n64 games like the ps2 can play ps1 games
>have to rebuy RE2 and trAnimal Crossing
>no manhunt
>no mortal kombat shaolin monks
>component cables only sold through select online retailers
>no ssx 1 or timesplitters 1
>ssx tricky and 3 are missing a quarter of the grabs because the dogshit controller is lacking 4 top buttons. just an example of the hundreds of games that had their control scheme either gutted or neutered because of the horrible controller
>can't play dvds or cds like ps2 and xbox
>ps2 and Xbox can play hundreds of games online; shitcube can only play one paid MMO and 3 shitty racing games through a tunneling service
>no final fantasy
>draconian DRM through little gay discs and no HDD slot

How can a console lack so much in both software and hardware features? The shitcube almost feels like it was a scam with his barebones it is.
I can’t imagine being a cubie. There’s literally nothing this pile of shit does better than any other console
Anonymous No.718007618 >>718007946 >>718008284
>>718007504
Can't offer a valid counter argument, so defaults to impotent character attack. Classic.
Anonymous No.718007674
>>718005809
it's funny because it's true.
Anonymous No.718007678
For me, it's Sonic 1.
Anonymous No.718007785
Is this a false-flag thread?
Anonymous No.718007849 >>718033463
>>718005570 (OP)
>Not a single good game, ever
At least put some effort if you're gonna bait
Anonymous No.718007931 >>718008018 >>718008030
>>718005570 (OP)
Sonic is a really good character with a really good nemesis. So good, in fact, they carry the series despite the gameplay often being mediocre.
That's seriously it.
Anonymous No.718007946
>>718007618
Im not even a part of the argument just wanted to call you a retard
Anonymous No.718008007
>>718006984
Cream's.
Anonymous No.718008018 >>718008275
>>718007931
Only people with learning disabilities latch onto Sonic as a "good character".
Anonymous No.718008030 >>718008275
>>718007931
>Sonic
>good character
Anonymous No.718008125 >>718008428
>>718005570 (OP)
Who cares? Elise necklace appears in a Crossworlds Cross Talk

https://youtu.be/EXuyFB29IvQ?si=t74_4oRFa-b44Kn6
Anonymous No.718008197 >>718033603
The final, ultimate blackpill is that very few of the 3D Sonic games are legitimately bad. They just have a very high skill ceiling that rewards memorisation and mastery of the physics and controls; this causes the average gamer to bounce off them because they cannot be brute forced, claiming they are "shit games" because they don't want to take the time to learn them.

Of course this group includes journalists, hence the persistent stigma. People are thickos who don't want to put any effort in beyond holding a few buttons to generate dopamine, so as soon as legitimate skill is required, it triggers an anger response because they are no longer being coddled to feel like they are good at something.

Once you git gud at 3D Sonic, you unlock platforming godhood. The barrier of entry to smoothbrains is simply too high. And that's okay.

>t. has 100%'d every 3D Sonic from SA1 to Shadow Gens, yes 06 does suck but it isn't even the worst Sonic game, that's Secret Rings
Anonymous No.718008275
>>718008018
>>718008030
People love that little blue nigga (and his round foe). The character designers obviously did something right or there wouldn't still be a Sonic franchise to talk about.
Anonymous No.718008284 >>718048180
>>718007417
>I don't like being called insane
too bad so sad
take your meds
>>718007618
meds
Anonymous No.718008285 >>718008449 >>718008514 >>718008627 >>718008751 >>718008797 >>718008898 >>718014528 >>718037452
>>718005809
Megaman has been coasting off his 80s fame and now look at him
Anonymous No.718008296 >>718008692
If you think Sonic 1 is bad you are literally too stupid to be playing video games
Anonymous No.718008372
>>718007182
>AIEEEE, PAYMENT PROCESSORS, SAVE ME
Anonymous No.718008408 >>718008507 >>718008779 >>718033787
>>718007561
Custom Robo, star fox shootan, Tony hawk, f zero, smash, good Mario kart, Mario party, windwaker, best Mario, good controller no not for cod but you know, I hope it didn't have the first tranny though but shit that just means she likes what I like, pokemon colosseum, pso, sonic adventure, sonic mega collection, soul Calibur, tos, Naruto clash of ninja, Mario strikers, Godzilla, pacman world 2, viewtiful joe I guess kind of sucked imo, I'd get one but the Wii plays both and you can find one for 20. Enough games to get one if you just have a PC. I'd probably get a switch 1 though but I'm good with PS4 and PC.
Anonymous No.718008428
>>718008125
Oh wow, they referenced the worst game in the entire franchise that sadly failed to kill it for good. Fuckin' poggers. I fucking hate you "people".
Anonymous No.718008449
>>718008285
Bandai killed Pac Man for Tekken slop tho.
Anonymous No.718008451 >>718008612
>>718005692
Never forget SWAG

Sonic
Was
Always
Good
Anonymous No.718008507
>>718008408
And Dance Dance Revolution is a good time ngl
Anonymous No.718008514 >>718009752
>>718008285
who the fuck is this
Anonymous No.718008573 >>718015512 >>718017714
>>718005570 (OP)
Sonic is Undefeatable
Anonymous No.718008583 >>718008629
Anonymous No.718008612
>>718008451
>SWAG
Fitting
Anonymous No.718008627 >>718053106
>>718008285
Banjo-Kazooie breaks my heart more than anything else here. Sometimes franchises just retire for one reason or another (Spyro, Jak & Daxter), but BK's last word was a game shotgunning itself in the face in a way that was totally avoidable. It's not like their story had a beginning, middle and end that's stronger for having decidedly finished, BK was never particularly plot-driven so they totally could've had lasting mascot staying power like DK or at least Crash.
Anyway, here's Kao.
Anonymous No.718008629 >>718008841
>>718008583
This seems more like frogposter behavior.
Anonymous No.718008692 >>718008796 >>718009045
>>718008296
If you think Sonic CD is bad you are literally too stupid to be playing video games
Anonymous No.718008725 >>718008807 >>718039059
>>718006148
At least Sonic fans have standards while PokΓ©mon fans eat up whatever slop Gamefreak shits out, Gen 8 and Gen 9 are one of the best selling games in the series, if that doesn’t explain it then I don’t know what does.
Anonymous No.718008751 >>718009829 >>718033693
>>718008285
Mega Man 11 was a good game.
Anonymous No.718008779
>>718008408
>viewtiful joe I guess kind of sucked
Viewtiful Joe is the best game you mentioned wtf
Anonymous No.718008796
>>718008692
It has the most disjointed level design in a 2D Sonic game.

I can understand what they were going for but that doesn't spare it from having issues.
Anonymous No.718008797
>>718008285
But he gave us Splash Woman.
Anonymous No.718008807 >>718008961 >>718010471
>>718008725
>sonic fans
>standards
Anonymous No.718008841
>>718008629
Sonic fans basically are frogposters. Might as well be glorified bots with how rigidly unthinking and detached from real human behavior they are.
Anonymous No.718008898 >>718010108
>>718008285
Dude Pacman's just been remakes, remasters and apple arcade games, he's a skeleton
Anonymous No.718008909 >>718008983 >>718009464 >>718052970
>>718006390
>Mania

It’s only praised because of the bad taste Boom left in fans mouths, otherwise it would’ve been looked at as an okay and neat addition to the series. Another thing that holds it back is reused levels which the Advance and Rush games don’t have that problem
Anonymous No.718008961
>>718008807
Why are the quills so short? And why are his arms tan?
Anonymous No.718008962 >>718028324
Why am I not allowed to post Tails threads anymore? Why is it considered spam? This is NOT fair.
Anonymous No.718008983 >>718009047 >>718009427
>>718008909
what's wrong with knuckles's skin tone?
Anonymous No.718009045 >>718009521
>>718008692
1 and CD are still the best Sonic games at making speed feel like something that has to be earned, and rewarding your speed and momentum with more paths in the level. I also appreciate that Sonic 1 has little puzzles where you have to build up a bit of momentum with very little runway to bypass certain obstacles, which is why I always recommend that people play it with the Spin Dash disabled if they're playing one of the rereleases. The original game has a lot of creative applications of the physics engine that go out the window when you can generate top speed on command
Anonymous No.718009047
>>718008983
E is a block mon
>loud reggae music
Ooooh tiki tiki *smokes a bong* xD
Anonymous No.718009072 >>718009265 >>718010294
>>718006984
What’s with the Scat Fetishists polluting this site?
Anonymous No.718009219
>>718007334
>sonic and tails painted on my bedroom wall

Based!
Anonymous No.718009265 >>718010307
>>718009072
I like poopING, not poop.
Anonymous No.718009339
>>718007561
Don’t care, didn’t read
Anonymous No.718009421
Isn't there some RULE against trying to incite people against one another?
Anonymous No.718009427 >>718009771 >>718034000
>>718008983
That model is probably based on how he looked in SA2
Anonymous No.718009464 >>718009628 >>718022113 >>718028796
>>718008909
>Boom

Unpopular opinion but I have never really understood the fascination the internet has with shitting on this game. Like, it is completely unremarkable, especially post patch. It is just a bog standard 2010s generic licensed cartoon tie in game. It does not do anything offensively terrible nor notably good. It's just there.

It was made to shill the cartoon and sell toys. There are a million worse licensed games from that era that nobody seems to care as much about.
Anonymous No.718009490 >>718016109
>>718006390
>>Sonic Adventure
>>Sonic Adventure 2
these are the only good sonic games
Anonymous No.718009521 >>718009694
>>718009045
>"Oh, you want to go fast in this game that sells itself on letting you go fast? Well fuck you, you gotta work for it."
Anonymous No.718009559
>>718006984
kek
Anonymous No.718009581 >>718010281 >>718034264 >>718049420
>>718006390
Sell me on Lost World. I can tell it has potential but I haven't found it yet
Anonymous No.718009628 >>718014979
>>718009464
Because the central conceit of Boom's "self-aware" twist is that the franchise it's a part of is stupid and all the characters are losers, and unlike when Star Wars attempted that with The Last Jedi, Boom didn't have DEI backing so there was no incentive to double down when everyone said "This sucks."
Anonymous No.718009694 >>718009856
>>718009521
>Is that.. *gulp*... challenge...in my video game?
Anonymous No.718009752
>>718008514
I know I know, but I’ll say this, he looks better in motion, and I don’t blame you that render sucks because they copied off the original Chad render
Anonymous No.718009771
>>718009427
then why isn't sonic orange? why isn't tails a weird piss brown? why is knuckles the only one with the wrong skin tone?
Anonymous No.718009829
>>718008751
Why did Capcom stop at 11 then?
Anonymous No.718009856
>>718009694
Calling bad game design and false advertising 'challenge' is a bitch cop out, and you know it.
Anonymous No.718010108 >>718010250
>>718008898
And what is Megaman? Crossovers? Collabs?
Anonymous No.718010250
>>718010108
megaman is spare metal
Anonymous No.718010281 >>718015702
>>718009581
The number one problem with Lost World is that it fails to teach you 70% of its movement options. On the Wii U, the tutorials were hidden down on the gamepad, and in the ports they are even less visible.

For instance, the different vaulting mechanics, the tiered speed system, the rolling move intended for rough terrain, the bounce combo and more.

Study up on the move set and practice it. That's my top tip. The level design really opens up when you do. Also the soundtrack rips.
Anonymous No.718010294 >>718010470
>>718009072
I love shit, that's why I post on /v/
Anonymous No.718010307
>>718009265
Then go to the Trash board shit eater
Anonymous No.718010385
>>718005570 (OP)
Kirby /thread
Anonymous No.718010470
>>718010294
Sticks dodges those seed oil cookies.
Anonymous No.718010471 >>718010586
>>718008807
Yes literally, They constantly shit on the image you posted. 3.5 million sales for a mainline game is not this franchises peak and until the games are better it wont reach it. Unlike Pokemon 10+ million sales despite being deplorable dogshit.
>>718005570 (OP)
Seriously the Pokemon is way worse. 2 copies 60$$$ for slop.
Anonymous No.718010586 >>718027857
>>718010471
I think that just says more about popularity than standards, otherwise this 20 year old model wouldn't still be used
Anonymous No.718010623
>>718005809
at least snoop dogg was good
Anonymous No.718010957 >>718015060 >>718034495
I wish Sonic 06 was decent so people would stop glazing it.
Anonymous No.718011060
>>718006265
>1
True
>2
Nah, 2's a total improvement in every way.
>CD
It's annoying, but everything else about it is pretty good
>3
That's about every game these days. At least it's not like you need to go out and buy their cartridges separate these days.
Anonymous No.718011538 >>718034561
Remember this fucking Witch from Kao Challengers on the PSP?
Anonymous No.718011659
cod peaked from cod4 to bo1
now all they made is slop

bf peaked with bf4 and bf1, then they fucked up with bf5 and 2042
now they're scared and making a basic bitch modern day setting
Anonymous No.718011828 >>718012369
Reminder that the retards who are sperging
>pokemon
>pokemon
>pokemon
in a sonic thread are mongoloids from /sthg/ malding and seething hard
Anonymous No.718011868
You guys think Maria's fatal illness compromised her control of her bowels? Probably voided them when she was shot, right?
Anonymous No.718012369 >>718012758
>>718011828
>IF YOU SAY X YOU ARE Y
Anonymous No.718012758 >>718015042
>>718012369
Hi assraped sonic 'fan'. Go spamming le wind in sthg and don't forget slop slop slop slop slop
Anonymous No.718013707 >>718013834 >>718013848 >>718014754 >>718027459 >>718034813
>>718006390
Sonic forces is the only sonic game I have ever played. as an adult. It was a fairly good platforming game with a funny and ridiculous story.

If this is the "ABSOLUTE WORST" sonic fans have gotten, then theh have been eating way better than the average anything fan. Halo, Pokemon, Mario, Destiny 2, their recent entries are way worse than sonic forces.
Anonymous No.718013834 >>718014162
>>718013707
What was wrong with the recent Mario titles?
Anonymous No.718013848
>>718013707
yeah nobody is buying this, faggot. forces was boring as shit.
Anonymous No.718013948
>Had there ever been a fandom that has been so aggressively in denial that the thing they like is bad?
DMCucks. Next question.
Anonymous No.718013963
>>718005570 (OP)
Something can't become famous or inspire future creators if it's not good.
Anonymous No.718013991
>>718005692
Used to be me then i played sonic 3&k
No idea how theyve never recreted that.
Anonymous No.718014162
>>718013834
The last matio game I played was odyssey. The levels are not very interesting as they tend to use "do whatever and win" open ended system where basically every corner has collectables and you just need the collectables to proceed. It's like a parody of a collectathon.
Anonymous No.718014413
You weren't even alive when the reason you're supposed to pretend Sonic games are bad released you infant.
Anonymous No.718014528 >>718027857
>>718008285
Is this the piplup faggot on Twitter?
Anonymous No.718014537
3D Sonic games are fun and I am beyond tired of pretending otherwise.
Anonymous No.718014719 >>718044885
>>718006063
>Press right direction trigger and watch game play it self = peak gameplay

I refuse to believe sonic fans are real
Never met one irl
Just a bunch of paid shills looking like pircel
Anonymous No.718014754 >>718014913 >>718014984 >>718015320 >>718051463
>>718013707
>Sonic Forces
>good platforming
>funny story
What is it about this franchise that turns people into drooling retards?
Anonymous No.718014913
>>718014754
wdym, picrel is peak comedy
Anonymous No.718014979
>>718009628
The game isn't really like that, the cartoon is like, but people generally like the cartoon.
Anonymous No.718014984
>>718014754
That is pretty funny.
Anonymous No.718015042
>>718012758
I have no idea what this esl babble means
Anonymous No.718015060 >>718015515
>>718010957
Ain’t nothing wrong with 06
Anonymous No.718015320 >>718015592
>>718014754
Yes anon Forces does have an (albiet partially unintentionally) funny story and good platforming.
The reason people don't like it is because the developers got cold feet about making the create a characters "too cool" and the 100% requirement of getting full honors as all playable characters is a massive fucking chore since they all basically play as diet sonic.
Anonymous No.718015512 >>718018649
>>718008573
...unless you're able to throw a single punch.
Anonymous No.718015515
>>718015060
Japslop for spergs.
Anonymous No.718015537
>It was a fairly good platforming game
Anonymous No.718015592
>>718015320
Your OC cucking Tails and Amy for the entirety of the game is the greatest comedy of the sonic franchise.
Anonymous No.718015702
>>718010281
Was in a meeting so just now seeing this. Thanks for the tips! That sounds about right. I feel like 20% or so of the time I was really finding a groove and loving it, so I know it's possible. Maybe I'll get the WiiU version installed and practice with the tool tips there.
Anonymous No.718015841 >>718016053
>>718005570 (OP)
Pokemon fans. Most sonic fans can at least admit forces was a bad game.
Anonymous No.718016053 >>718016313
>>718015841
Unironically, forces is a better game than any pokemon game from X/Y onwards. At least forces lets you fall off cliffs.
Anonymous No.718016109
>>718009490
Everything before then is also good. Basically sonic went to shit as soon as they went third party.
Anonymous No.718016172
>>718006798
Yeah, that really says a lot about the quality of 3D Sonic games
Anonymous No.718016313 >>718016502 >>718019013 >>718034968
>>718016053
Its honestly just embarrassing, for both franchises.
What happened to the Japanese having pride in their work and all of that?
Anonymous No.718016502
>>718016313
Ah. Now I understand where the headcrab design came from.
Anonymous No.718016567 >>718016826 >>718017270
Sonicfags are retarded by default. They won't bat an eye that SEGA will make future games with AI.
Anonymous No.718016826
>>718016567
Yes they're retarded, not you who seems to have posted this in the wrong fucking thread crying about the franchise.
Billy No.718016872 >>718022032
I bought Frontiers like a week ago, and man, it is the most mediocre open world game ever. The springs, rains and boost pads are counter intuitiveznbe ausenthey always seem to take you wherever you don't want to go. The collectibles are easily farmable and pointless, because for some reason, Sonic Team decided to have 99 levels for your stats, which is another retarded idea; the Normal Sonic stages all feel like dogshit for some reason, all feel slow as shit and the movement on stuff like the boost and homing attack is like molasses, but the overworld movement is alright, fishing is super simple, but it had a dopamine effect with the chests. Story sucks too, and i hate it when Sonic takes itself seriously, because it's fucking Sonic
Anonymous No.718017270
>>718016567
Everybody big corpo is going to do that, Nintendo even floated the idea in an interview. They said the only reason they weren't using it is the copyright is still a gray area.
Anonymous No.718017714 >>718018649
>>718008573
unless you're above wall level
Anonymous No.718018649
>>718015512
>>718017714
>We got him! Weeeee got him!
Anonymous No.718019013
>>718016313
>pride in their work
Idiots like you keep forgetting that Japanese are merely human.
Anonymous No.718022032
>>718016872
... You okay anon? You type like you had a stroke.
Anonymous No.718022113 >>718024872 >>718029037
>>718009464
It wasn’t treated like a throw-away licenced game by the marketing. Boom was supposed to be the next big evolution of the series. If you look at the concept art there was way more ambition than what we ended up with. Like there was supposed to be an Eggman origin story.
The Boom series was also the only games released between 2014 and 2017. The series’s future was so dire that the cartoon became completely self-deprecating and birthed the Meta-era.
Anonymous No.718024872 >>718035053
>>718022113
>the meta era
It's not a fucking era, it's one fucking cartoon and some twitter q&a's.
Well, maybe Flynn's writing, but that's more 'I clapped when I recognized the thing'
Anonymous No.718025457 >>718025692 >>718026805 >>718029243 >>718030314
>>718005692
I love retro games, but Sonic is still one of the ones that I just fucking can't get into.
Like haha let's design the level where your momentum is stopped by bouncy springs that send you a thousand feet backwards, wouldn't that be great for you fast-paced game about a speedy woodland animal?
Anonymous No.718025631
One of Sonic's biggest advocates is fucking Chris-chan
That should tell you all you need to know
Anonymous No.718025692 >>718025926
>>718025457
Like haha let's design the level where you die when you jump into a pit, wouldn't that be great for your game about an italian that can jump really high?
Anonymous No.718025726
>>718005570 (OP)
>Had there ever been a fandom that has been so aggressively in denial that the thing they like is bad? Not a single good game, ever. How has this franchise manged to survive this long?
Anonymous No.718025926 >>718029243
>>718025692
>let's design a game where your player has ample opportunity to react to an obstacle using the skills they've been encouraged to use thus far
vs
>Let's put an obstacle that not only sets the player back but completely nullifies their momentum because they didn't have the reaction speed of an 8-year-old who already played the level
I can tell you're a sonic fan already
Anonymous No.718026805 >>718026956
>>718025457
https://cpstest.org/reaction-time-test/
Anonymous No.718026956 >>718027398
>>718026805
after 8 beers btw
Anonymous No.718027398
>>718026956
Blue Sphere after a bottle sounds like an experience, I should do that next time
Anonymous No.718027459 >>718027906
>>718005570 (OP)
Probably because it's a retarded take. I got fed that bullshit and took a ten year break from the Sonic franchise to play better games. Some of which were objectively buggy and had a lot of shitty problems (VTMB, Deus Ex, Mount & Blade, etc), but they were still objectively great games. At the same time, I played a lot of games that were actual fucking shite. When I came back to the Sonic franchise as an adult and even outright played games I never played before (like the Adventure duology), I realized quite quickly the idea of the franchise as a whole being "objectively shit" is just flat-out wrong.
To answer your question though: Gacha fans.

>>718006390
I agree with everything except
>Heroes
Ironically despite being arguably more presentable than the other Dreamcast era Sonic games, it's the most broken (barring Sonic 06) and no amount of fan-patches can fix it. Even Shadow 06 is actually decently fixed by Reloaded.
>Colors
I can't disagree, but I'll admit that I am not fond of it.
>Lost World
Nah fuck you. Even disregarding gameplay, the visuals are like vomit on a canvas, character design is ass and the story is awful.

>>718013707
Because you are the very tiny target audience, ironically enough. Forces was a weird soft-reboot of the franchise that was trying to appeal moreso to people who had no idea what Sonic even was. Once you play the other Boost games and even some of the early 3D games, you'll kinda realize what they fucked up on, it also fucks up quite a lot on the story front all things considered given how it retcons decades of character development. You can read a lot of the development notes from the leaked script and see how badly they botched it that it required a shitload of rewrites, the early drafts were somehow even more comically bad.
Still Forces isn't the worst 3D game, that award still goes to 06. Sonic 06 is only really redeemed by Project 06 all things considered, but that doesn't count, to be fair.
Anonymous No.718027776
>>718005570 (OP)
>Had there ever been a fandom that has been so aggressively in denial that the thing they like is bad?
Anonymous No.718027857 >>718035142 >>718037932 >>718045293
>>718014528
nah different twitterfag
>>718010586
Mario has used the same model for the last 25 years since Luigi's Mansion, why don't you fags complain about that?
Anonymous No.718027906 >>718028796
>>718027459
>how it retcons decades of character development
It doesn't through. Everyone pretty much acts as expected. Yes, even Tails, he's been a pussy since at least Unleashed.
Anonymous No.718028324 >>718031145
>>718008962
Maybe Tails threads would be allowed if people posted cool fanart like pic related and actually appreciated the character as a character or even discussed what a solo game about him would be, but instead it's just a bunch of fucking faggot weirdos being weird about the fucking character.
It's genuinely fucking annoying.
Anonymous No.718028567
>>718005570 (OP)
SA2 is one of my favorite games of all time and even Shadow 05 and Sonic 06 were fixed by fans
Unleashed killed the 3D games
Anonymous No.718028796 >>718029037 >>718029661
>>718027906
I know this will sound like copium but I did originally write far more on that but I had to shorten it due to character limit. But what I meant to say is that Forces mostly reinforces a lot of the worst aspects of post-Unleashed Sonic. It doesn't do much in the way of actual retconning, but it ends up reinforcing certain retcons and character concepts that were already established by Unleashed. It's just most people sort of ignored it in Unleashed because Unleashed's gameplay felt so novel, especially after 06 which fell flat. It doesn't help that Forces wanted to both appease people who liked Archie/SATAM with a "resistance vs Empire story" while also removing a lot about what people liked about that. Forces' story was just clunky overall and was never meant to be aimed at the fans, and if you read some of the early leaked scripts you will notice constant bickering between the writers and devs over how the story should be told. It was objectively a mess even the attempt at trying to unite Mania and Forces' story together
As for the retcons, I still think people arguably should've complained as early as Unleashed, because I feel while Unleashed had some interesting concepts, too much of it falls flat, at least story-wise anyways. Which to be fair, interesting concepts with poor execution seems to be a frequent pattern for Sonic Team and even SEGA as a whole from what I am seeing

>>718009464
I can kind of agree. But I think the issue is comes from the same miscommunication SEGA did with the devs. SEGA wasn't communicating to people what the game actually would be, and at the same time, SEGA was constantly misleading the devs on what the game was going to be. Overall I see the game less as some shitty attempt at westernizing Sonic, and more a passionate dev team being screwed over Sonic Xtreme-style by SEGA (Chris Senn was involved too IIRC, poor guy can't catch a break).
Anonymous No.718029037 >>718029661
>>718022113
No, the Meta Era was birthed by Unleashed/Colors. Boom was just following what the Meta era had already established. If anything, the Boom cartoon was arguably the only decent part of the Meta era precisely because it was a spin-off rather than mainline, the different setting made the meta humor somewhat more tolerable than in the mainline series. But the meta humor was already there in Colors thanks to Pontaff and Graff.
As for ambition, like I said here: >>718028796 the devs were misled by SEGA. But the game was never a reboot, it was always meant to be a spin-off and the cartoon was meant to be a tie-in, and a lot of the early story concepts were thrown off early on like the Eggman origin story due to SEGA's mandates. The game in it's final form is still a far cry from what the devs intended though, SEGA screwed them over by assuring them it would be a next-gen game, so they developed it in the Cry Engine, only to be rug-pulled into making it a Wii U exclusive and cutting the dev time to fuck them over.
Anonymous No.718029243 >>718029475 >>718031378 >>718035378 >>718043459
>>718005570 (OP)
>>718025457
>>718025926
Play better, Mariocuck.
Anonymous No.718029475 >>718032179
>>718029243
Wow, amazing how this player did this on their first/second playthrough with no outside input!
Anonymous No.718029661 >>718030246
>>718028796
Unleashed didn't retcon fucking anything, outside of Tails being a bit useless, and that started with Shadow and 06 (arguably SA2 with him glued into a mech)
>>718029037
Colors didn't use Meta humor through outside of one like one joke.
Anonymous No.718029964 >>718030051
Engage with the momentum-based physics, zoomtroon. When you learn to hold down on the controller, your life will improve.
Anonymous No.718030051 >>718030214 >>718030224
>>718029964
What was that 4 seconds of an on-rails section supposed to prove?
Anonymous No.718030214 >>718030283
>>718030051
Retard.
Anonymous No.718030224 >>718030283
>>718030051
>on-rails
Learn what words mean, faggot.
Anonymous No.718030246 >>718038448
>>718029661
>Unleashed didn't retcon fucking anything, outside of Tails being a bit useless, and that started with Shadow and 06 (arguably SA2 with him glued into a mech)
It's not about Tails being useless so much as him being a flat-out coward, with that scene of him cowering to the Dark Gaia creature. A massive retcon from SA1 and even SA2 to a degree.
Tails being useless has been an issue since 06 and I definitely agree with that. Although arguing he is useless because of the mech feels...like a strange argument, especially since he accomplishes a decent amount within the game's story. I don't see this issue in Shadow 05 either, mostly since every character was kind of useless in Shadow 05 barring Shadow himself, which makes sense, Shadow 05 was a gaiden story that focused moreso on Shadow's character. I definitely agree for 06, but almost everyone was character assassinated in 06, even Sonic himself.
>Colors didn't use Meta humor through outside of one like one joke.
You're wrong. When I say meta humor, I don't just mean fourth-wall breaks, I mean the ironic self-aware shit that has been present in every Pontaff and Graff written game. Replay the game and you'll understand my point, unless you played the DS port or played the Wii version with the JP dialogue, then of course that issue isn't really present.
Anonymous No.718030283
>>718030224
>>718030214
Sorry, sorry, it's not on rails if you have to hold right on the d-pad, my mistake
Sonic has the most engaging gameplay ever, please forgive me, my superiors
Anonymous No.718030314 >>718030407
>>718025457
Anonymous No.718030407
>>718030314
These retards think Unleashed has bad level design because you have to time your wall jumps in order to avoid spikes.
Anonymous No.718030408
Momentum doesn’t take control away, it enhances.
Anonymous No.718031104 >>718031298 >>718031371 >>718034874
>>718005570 (OP)
The franchise died with Sonic CD. Adventure wasn't good. I remember seeing it as a kid and thinking wtf is this. Same with Wind Waker. I loved both series.
Anonymous No.718031145 >>718035274
>>718028324
That's because you have no class or taste.
Anonymous No.718031298 >>718031782 >>718031941 >>718043571
>>718031104
Anonymous No.718031371
>>718031104
3K blows 1, 2 and CD out of the water.
Anonymous No.718031378
>>718029243
I get sonic, I just dont think it exceeds being 7/10 at best. What is fun about playing the same mediocre 2D level over and over until you learn the 5 places to jump to skip the level anyway? You like this cuz you were first exposed to it when you were 8. Unbiased people can see it's... okay. Not great. Music is good though.
Anonymous No.718031782
>>718031298
Sega clearly paid off critics for those high reviews scores.
Anonymous No.718031883
>>718007257
This
Anonymous No.718031941 >>718035629
>>718031298
Those 2 games are the peak of Sonic
Anonymous No.718032021
When Sega had concoles they had the bonus like Nintendo does. Now that they’re 3rd party you get to see the scores these games deserv.
Anonymous No.718032091
>>718005570 (OP)
Sonic peaked at 3S&K, and CD.

It's been a sharp decline from there
Anonymous No.718032179
>>718029475
>I should be able to have a game mastered on my first attempt or else it's bad game design!!
Anonymous No.718033087 >>718033764 >>718033791 >>718036165
>>718005692
Fucking kek. Sonic is designed by committee to be the most marketable mascot Sega could come up with, it's the most corporate slop imaginable and everything about it was always made to be lowest common denominator trash to appeal to as many normalfags as possible. It's soulless garbage.
Anonymous No.718033214
>>718006048
Brought back in the Mania intro and nobody cared.
Anonymous No.718033287
>>718007278
>start-stop level design
Somebody post the Marble Zone webm to shut this faggot up.
Anonymous No.718033463
>>718007561
>paper Mario thousand year door has the first tranny in gaming
Metroid, but go off
>>718007849
If Sonic fans will slurp up games made with no effort, they'll happily post in threads made with no effort.
Anonymous No.718033478 >>718033791
>>718005570 (OP)
>Not a single good game, ever
I really wish people would stop pretending 1-3&K and the Adventure games are bad.
Anonymous No.718033603 >>718033795
>>718008197
Secret Rings is fixed by mapping motion controls to button inputs in Dolphin. 06 could only be fixed by one guy literally remaking the game.
Anonymous No.718033693
>>718008751
Then where's 11-2.8 Prologue: Revenant Wings - Knell of Ar Ciel?
Anonymous No.718033764 >>718034202 >>718034453 >>718038553 >>718050339
>>718033087
Sonic wasn’t corporate.
Anonymous No.718033787
>>718008408
Viewtiful Joe kicked ass but the anime was kind of lame
Anonymous No.718033791
>>718033478
see >>718033087
Anonymous No.718033795 >>718034083
>>718033603
>06 could only be fixed by one guy literally remaking the game.
Hardly. If anything P-06 proved that lack of oven time was not the only issue it had, just the most blatant one.
Anonymous No.718034000
>>718009427
Why does half the fanbase act like SA2 is the only or most definitive Sonic game?
Anonymous No.718034083
>>718033795
Nah the level design is mostly solid, in fact the only real problem with the levels is the inane character switching instead of just giving characters their own levels or letting them play existing levels in full.
Anonymous No.718034202 >>718036165
>>718033764
Damn, dude. You got 1 INT.
Anonymous No.718034264
>>718009581
The only thing wrong with WiiU LW is the story and the constant wisp pop ups when a power up runs out.
Anonymous No.718034453
>>718033764
He wasn't always but it definitely feels that way since the 2010s
Anonymous No.718034495
>>718010957
Sonic had a rough simple speed transition into HD.
Anonymous No.718034561
>>718011538
No but I remember Sonic's games on the PSP being especially pathetic.
Anonymous No.718034686
>>718005692
FPBP
Anonymous No.718034813
nobody:
>>718013707: Hold my beer, I'm about to prove OP right.
Anonymous No.718034858 >>718035021 >>718035205
Fuck it I'm just postin my genderbend Rouge design here. I saw some other attempts but didn't like em and on a whim, I went for it.
Anonymous No.718034874
>>718031104
Much as I love CD, its fanboys are fucking insufferable faggots.
>He doesn't like Wind Kino
Fucking filtered.
Anonymous No.718034930
>>718005570 (OP)
>Had there ever been a fandom that has been so aggressively in denial that the thing they like is bad?
Probably only Pokemon or KH fans
>Not a single good game, ever
Ah you're just a shitflinging retard, nevermind

Sure Sonic has dogshit games but saying not even one of them has redeeming qualities is ignorant at best and retarded (you) at worst
t. sonic hater
Anonymous No.718034968
>>718016313
There's nothing to be proud of when a bad Sonic game with no budget sells just as much or more than a mediocre Sonic game with a high budget.
Anonymous No.718035021 >>718035080
>>718034858
>I am no longer Amon. HE'S EATING SHIT IN HELL RIGHT NOW! YOU CAN CALL ME-
>DEVIL THE MAN!!!!
Anonymous No.718035053 >>718035391
>>718024872
>It's not a fucking era
Colors through Forces is definitely an era you dumb fuck
Anonymous No.718035080 >>718035651
>>718035021
How'd ya know I took inspiration from it. I know it was obvious, hahaha.
Anonymous No.718035142
>>718027857
New should have washed out colors
Anonymous No.718035205 >>718035323
>>718034858
Now do the girl version of this
Anonymous No.718035274
>>718031145
Nah, you're just a faggot.
Anonymous No.718035323
>>718035205
That's just regular Rouge, stupid, what's the point, haha. To go on a tangent, what's so fuckin hard about puttin Rouge in the movies? Just make her wear a tight lycra suit, as long as they don't fuck up her face they'll pull it off.
Anonymous No.718035378 >>718035620 >>718035810
>>718029243
>you can either be just ok at the game and get stopped every two seconds and never go fast
>or you can be a speedtranny and skip over the entire level
Cool but when does the game actually become fun?
Anonymous No.718035391 >>718035579 >>718035769 >>718035846 >>718036453
>>718035053
As far as I'm concerned, Ian Flynn's dogshit writing keeps Forces in the meta era since he's aggressively trying to make "references for the fans" which is the pinnacle mark of a hack writer, not to mention meta writing by definition.
Anonymous No.718035545 >>718044242 >>718044562
>>718005692
I didn't like Sonic, even as a kid. I hated Sonic Spinball and thought Sonic 1 was only okay. I literally asked my mom to sell my Genesis and buy me a SNES because of how much I hated Sonic.
Anonymous No.718035579 >>718043687
>>718035391
What's funny is there are now two different meta eras. Colors era was meta because of its humor style, and now we're in the meta era because everything is references all the time.
Anonymous No.718035620
>>718035378
you are disingenuous
Anonymous No.718035629
>>718031941
this
Anonymous No.718035651 >>718035843
>>718035080
Nothing wrong with taking inspiration from the best, fellow Go Nagai enjoyer (he certainly has a fair share of obvious inspirations too).
Anonymous No.718035769 >>718036129 >>718036583
>>718035391
Qtd on what the End is? Apparently the dlc expands on this.
Anonymous No.718035810
>>718035378
>>you can either be just ok at the game and get stopped every two seconds and never go fast
Git gud, faggot.
Anonymous No.718035826
>>718006390
>The following Sonic games are good:
>Sonic Adventure 2
>Sonic Lost World
>Sonic Frontiers
>>718006594
>everything that released on a console I never owned is automatically bad
Anonymous No.718035843 >>718036227 >>718036461
>>718035651
Don't get me wrong, I ain't read the comic, I just thought his design was neat. Go Nagai might be the best Japanese comic artist of the 1960s, unless there's someone else I don't know about who drew better than he did.
Anonymous No.718035846 >>718036453
>>718035391
Forces wasn't written by Flynn, you moron.
Anonymous No.718035902 >>718044451
>>718006594
>seething
Anonymous No.718036129
>>718035769
It doesn't
Anonymous No.718036165
>>718033087
>>718034202
Sonic started out as a genuine passion project. Sega turned it into corporate slop.
Anonymous No.718036181
>>718005570 (OP)
>How has this franchise manged to survive this long?
*ahem* AUTISM.
Anonymous No.718036227 >>718036461
>>718035843
Read the comic, it's an all time classic. (Read a scanlation though, the official english release is absolutely atrocious). Also check out the OVA, and don't let any irony poisoned faggot tell you it's bad or "so bad it's good," it's totally awesome and honestly improves some of the sequences from the manga. Shame it's unfinished, but that gives you a reason to read the original. Skip Devilman Crybaby though, director is a hilariously incompetent hack. Also don't sleep on Mazinger Z, Devilman may be his most recognized work in the west, but Mazinger Z is usually considered his seminal and most influential work in Japan.
>1960s
He's really more of a 70's guy, but he's easily the best mangaka of the era in my opinion.
Anonymous No.718036453
>>718035846
>>718035391
>Forces
I meant to write Frontiers, hopefully that was obvious.
Anonymous No.718036461 >>718036650
>>718035843
Ken Ishikawa and Leiji Matsumoto come pretty close. I'd also say Tetsuya Chiba too.
Funnily enough, I am working on a Sonic fanfic with a fair amount of influence from both Ishikawa and Matsumoto.

>>718036227
Seconding this. And for all his works it's better you read the manga because most of the anime adaptations are only in broad strokes, same with Ishikawa's works, although some of them are more faithful than others (i.e. the Devilman OVAs).
Anonymous No.718036583
>>718035769
Flood Gravemind lazily pasted into a bad Sonic game plot in a way that's so contrived it feels like it was written by AI.
>The DLC expands on this
No
Anonymous No.718036650 >>718037056
>>718036461
Ishikawa and Getter Robo are absurdly fucking based, I'd probably rank Getter Robo as my favorite Super Robot manga.
>Ishikawa inspired Sonic fanfic
Sounds based an Ishikawa Sonic would be like the Fleetwood Sonic 10,000x.
Anonymous No.718037056
>>718036650
>Ishikawa and Getter Robo are absurdly fucking based, I'd probably rank Getter Robo as my favorite Super Robot manga.
Same honestly
>Sounds based an Ishikawa Sonic would be like the Fleetwood Sonic 10,000x.
Unfortunately it's not really the main Sonic characters themselves who are given the hot blooded Ishikawa treatment, it's a few other unexpected characters from another Sonic media that I gave the hot-blooded treatment.
Although, now that you mentioned it, might be fun to make another fic that plays around with that concept too.
Anonymous No.718037452 >>718044568
>>718008285
When it takes 7 years to sell more than 2 million copies then yeah I can understand why they aren't making more of them
Anonymous No.718037816
>>718005570 (OP)
>Not a single good game, ever.
Oh, and Sonic fans are the ones in denial, OP?
Anonymous No.718037932 >>718045060
>>718027857
Mario gets new models?
Anonymous No.718037967 >>718038417
>>718005692
They've been spouting and pushing the same agenda and jokes for decades. Idk why they claim not to care about the series because it's shit but always have it in their minds and need to shit talk it despite having no impact to them at all. I think it's just out of habit at this point and need to keep it going by blowing certain discussions out of proportion and claim we don't even like the series because we don't love every single thing about it
Anonymous No.718038352
pathetic failed normalnigger thread
sorry you peaked in highschool but you still belong on faceberg and not here
Anonymous No.718038417 >>718038726 >>718039836 >>718044149
>>718037967
i feel like sonic hate died down
Anonymous No.718038448 >>718039141
>>718030246
You're using Meta humor wrong.
Also, the writing is fine, you're just too used to Sonic being so up it's own ass.
Anonymous No.718038553
>>718033764
literally always was
Shadow and 06 are just especially notable (GTA and 'x but REAL')
Anonymous No.718038629
>>718006265
Not unfinished, just cut in half because of some McDonald's deal
Anonymous No.718038692
>>718005570 (OP)
Sonic will outlive your favorite franchise
Anonymous No.718038726 >>718039230
>>718038417
It more becomes increasingly ridiculous as we are now a Fully Grown Man removed from Chrischan and Sonic '06 (Why people pretend all the games are bad) and the people whining about them even stuff that is pretty bad like frontiers can't actually point to actual problems.
Anonymous No.718038972
Is pic related a good idea for Open Zone level design? The pink ball is a memory token btw.
Anonymous No.718039059 >>718044985 >>718045104
>>718006148
>>718008725
Imagine if they made a game that was botw tier exploration where your pokemon help you traverse the landscape and solve puzzles. It would sell more copies than GTA 6. I hope they don't though because they ruined their IP with the yearly rehash of the 20 year old formula imo
Anonymous No.718039141 >>718039490 >>718040701
>>718038448
Maybe it's not meta humor, but it's still irony-poisoned as shit. No real sincerity, just afraid to try and do anything risky.
>Also, the writing is fine, you're just too used to Sonic being so up it's own ass.
Please tell me you enjoy Joss Whedon's works without telling me you enjoy Joss Whedon's works?
Either way, it has less to do with Sonic, and more me being fucking sick of this kind of insincere writing in video games and media in general. Sure, Sonic never consistently had good localized writing, that's why I mostly play it with the Japanese retranslation mods since they actually make the writing at least somewhat more interesting (and even the humor is decently improved at times). But this trend is absolute shite and needs to stop.
Anonymous No.718039230 >>718039321 >>718039402 >>718039459 >>718039519 >>718039590 >>718039612
>>718038726
>Why people pretend all the games are bad
Fuck you mean 'pretend'? They are literally ALL bad. They've been shit from the beginning.

Look at this. LOOK AT THIS SHIT. Fuck you.
Anonymous No.718039321 >>718039438 >>718040005
>>718039230
never happened to me btw
Anonymous No.718039402
>>718039230
I never had that problem, sorry.
Anonymous No.718039438 >>718039523
>>718039321
The fact they had to cover their asses by putting a warning about how much of a buggy piece of shit their game was means that it happened constantly in testing. And they still had the gall to release this thing. Disgusting.

There's a glorious timeline where Sonic 1 failed compliance, and the world is an objectively better place because of that.
Anonymous No.718039459 >>718040005
>>718039230
I never experienced any bugs in the Mega Drive games.
Anonymous No.718039490 >>718039905
>>718039141
Just say you played SA2 were a kid anon and can't actually find the difference between good writing and nostalgia.
Anonymous No.718039519 >>718039646 >>718039647
>>718039230
I only ever found bugs by intentinally searching for them, which can be done in any 2D game from the late 80s/90s.
Anonymous No.718039523 >>718039646
>>718039438
You sound like Vinny Vinesauce
Anonymous No.718039590 >>718040005
>>718039230
Never ran into bugs during my play throughs of Sonic 1, 2 and 3K.
Anonymous No.718039612
>>718039230
Yes yes I know you can hold roll after clearing labyrinth zone to break the game.
You can also start over from that zone since it can save your zone for soft resets.
What next? Crying because you can keep resetting at the first star pole in Emerald Hill and play through the whole game as Super Sonic?
What were they thinking?!
Anonymous No.718039646 >>718039692 >>718039716
>>718039519
I encountered bugs by playing the games. Fuckers have always been jank shit that loved to crash.

>>718039523
You sound like you're deflecting. Because you are.
Anonymous No.718039647
>>718039519
>intentinally
*intentionally.
Anonymous No.718039692
>>718039646
>Fuckers have always been jank shit that loved to crash
I never experienced crashes, ever. Sounds like a problem with your hardware.
Anonymous No.718039716
>>718039646
Works on my machine.
Anonymous No.718039836 >>718039947 >>718039975 >>718045229
>>718038417
It's not as bad as it used to be but it's still pretty common for people to make fun of the series unprompted or just stick their noses in discourse they don't care about just to make fun of the fans. It's bizarre really.
Anonymous No.718039862
>>718005570 (OP)
nintendo
Anonymous No.718039905 >>718040701
>>718039490
I literally played SA2 for the first time last year, what the fuck are you talking about?
Hell, read my previous posts, I pretty much only played the Genesis games and Heroes as a kid. And I now fucking hate Heroes after having replayed it despite it being the game I grew up with.
Also, nice of you to ignore everything else I wrote about this dogshit writing being prevalent across media.
>and can't actually find the difference between good writing and nostalgia.
Sonic isn't Shakespeare. It's not even fucking close to well-written games with fantastic stories like Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, Killer7, Deus Ex, etc. But it's serviceable, it's decent, and the Japanese version even comes close to being "good", but never great. You must distinguish that fact and understand this fact.
Meanwhile the writing you're fucking praising is low-end milennium-core sloppa. You don't understand decent writing because you're too insecure of yourself to appreciate sincerity even if it is silly.
Anonymous No.718039947 >>718040293
>>718039836
>but it's still pretty common for people to make fun of the series unprompted or just stick their noses in discourse they don't care about just to make fun of the fans.
post proof
Anonymous No.718039975 >>718040293
>>718039836
It's not bizarre at all. Sonic fans really are every bit the subhuman scum they are perceived as. You "people" can only realistically contribute to society by doing everyone a favor and committing mass suicide.
Anonymous No.718040005
>>718039321
>>718039459
>>718039590
the knuckles cartridge also doubled as a patch for sonic 3 so that's why you likely didn't run into any bugs
Anonymous No.718040293 >>718040545 >>718040738 >>718041458
>>718039947
Use twitter and read any comments in videos that are about sonic (not by sonictubers obviously)
>>718039975
This is what I'm talking about. Just pure unfiltered, abnormal vitriol and hate for a series and it's fans that haven't done anything weirder than other fanbases yet you latch on to Sonic specifically and treat it like the worst thing ever.
Anonymous No.718040545 >>718040720 >>718041192 >>718041713
>>718040293
>fans that haven't done anything weirder than other fanbases
You gave a bunch of nazis from Something Awful the opportunity to stigmatize furries to this day. You have some of the most cringeworthy behavior in the world. You're all a bunch of pedophiles. You held a mass harassment campaign that forced a major film studio to delay a movie over a character design. You made Chris-Chan a thing. Go fuck yourself, freak.
Anonymous No.718040701 >>718041070 >>718041080 >>718041141 >>718041292
>>718039141
NTA but Frontiers didn't have any of the writing style you're referring to outside of some of Sonic's quips. Quips are not inherently bad, by the way, and Modern Sonic is absolutely the type of character who would use them.
>but MUH STOIC SHONEN SONIC
This is such a meme. Modern Sonic has always been a fun loving, hyper-active, talkative guy, for the most part. Just because the Japanese script expresses it differently than the English version might, doesn't mean it isn't there. If you prefer that, that's fine, but let's stop pretending that 2000s Sonic was the strong silent type. Also Shadow Generations was much the same as Frontiers. We literally haven't had the kind of writing you're crying about since Lost World, man. Even Forces' story was played straight.

>>718039905
>I literally played SA2 for the first time last year, what the fuck are you talking about?
This isn't the own you think it is.
>Meanwhile the writing you're fucking praising is low-end milennium-core sloppa
He never praised it, he just said it was fine. He was also correctly pointing out that Colors' writing style wasn't what Sonicfags constantly call "meta." His assumption that you were one of the usual 2000s nostalgafags bemoaning the fact that Modern Sonic is not aimed at them anymore was pretty founded. So if you're not one of these people, you're doing a very good impression of one.
>muhhh sincerity
Is not a band-aid for bad writing. SA2's story is barely decent, and I say this with full love and nostalgia for the game having actually played it when I was kid. It's just a bunch of things that the writer (plus Sonic Team, probably) thought would be cool, plus ripping off Please Save My Earth. I love it to death, but its story is not good at all.
Anonymous No.718040720 >>718041226
>>718040545
>You gave a bunch of nazis from Something Awful the opportunity to stigmatize furries to this day
what? how is this our fault? i'm sorry to hear that you're a furfag and all

meanwhile i see a bunch of low functioning autists with mario 64 avatars on youtube all the god damn time
Anonymous No.718040738 >>718041192
>>718040293
>Use twitter and read any comments in videos that are about sonic (not by sonictubers obviously)
Can you give me any specific posts?
Anonymous No.718041070 >>718041292
>>718040701
>NTA but Frontiers didn't have any of the writing style you're referring to outside of some of Sonic's quips. Quips are not inherently bad, by the way, and Modern Sonic is absolutely the type of character who would use them.
Anon, I implore you to go back further into the conversation and see my point of views, I understand you're trying to be nuanced here, but I don't think you quite understand what's going on. I also never name-dropped Frontiers, if anything I implied Frontiers didn't have this style of writing, this was me entirely shitting on Pontaff and Graff.
>This is such a meme. Modern Sonic has always been a fun loving, hyper-active, talkative guy, for the most part. Just because the Japanese script expresses it differently than the English version might, doesn't mean it isn't there. If you prefer that, that's fine, but let's stop pretending that 2000s Sonic was the strong silent type.
I agree with you, don't get me wrong. He absolutely DOES quip, but the ones in the Pontaff era reek of tryhardiness.
>Also Shadow Generations was much the same as Frontiers.
Again, I never shat on SG and Frontiers. Unlike other people I am quite neutral on Flynn and even sympathetic to him because I feel he's suffering severe burnout. He has some different issues with his writing, but I blame him being forced to reboot everything three times in a fucking row and getting tired of it all.
>This isn't the own you think it is.
Well, no. But he argued I was nostalgia-blinded. I never got exposed to SA1-2 until I played it for the first time recently.
>He never praised it, he just said it was fine. He was also correctly pointing out that Colors' writing style wasn't what Sonicfags constantly call "meta."
I'd still argue it is. it comes from that place of insincerity that comes from Western Comic Books post-Avengers. It isn't necessarily "meta", but it is meta in it's attempt to be self-aware and walk on eggshells.
(1/2)
Anonymous No.718041080 >>718041283
>>718040701
I'd say Lost World's story is also pretty half and half. Like it might be the only game to seriously try looking at Sonic's flaws (or at least have it cause some consequences)
Anonymous No.718041141
>>718040701
Just looked up please save my earth. It looks like pure soul.
Anonymous No.718041192 >>718041369
>>718040545
Yes we also did 9/11, bombed a hospital full of children, puppies and kittens, and torture the innocent
>>718040738
>Spoon me or else I won't believe you
No.
>inb4 heh you have no proof
Ok.
Anonymous No.718041226
>>718040720
>what? how is this our fault?
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

>i'm sorry to hear that you're a furfag and all
Bitch, so are you. And before you even start, fuck all the way off with that rubberhose cope. You're a fucking furry.
Anonymous No.718041283
>>718041080
Too bad sonic comes off as a whiny bitch the second something goes wrong.
Anonymous No.718041292
>>718040701
>>718041070
(2/2)
>His assumption that you were one of the usual 2000s nostalgafags bemoaning the fact that Modern Sonic is not aimed at them anymore was pretty founded. So if you're not one of these people, you're doing a very good impression of one.
I am fonder of the 2000s era in terms of general "style". But really what I want from the writing is more risk and experimentation. What I see now is trying to play it too safe. Part of it can be blamed on the current writers, but I also blame Sega/Sonic Team being way too scared shitless to experiment. Hell, as much as I despise Pontaff and Graff, I believe them when they claim they weren't allowed to put as much of their original ideas in the games. I don't think they are lying here.
>Is not a band-aid for bad writing.
Correct. You can definitely argue this for 06 or even Sonic Adventure 1 which has a very poorly-written story.
>I love it to death, but its story is not good at all.
I have to agree to disagree. There are elements ripped off from Please Save My Earth, but it's not 1:1. I know that Maekawa cited it as an inspiration, but it's hardly a rip-off when so much of it is tangentially different barring some superficial concepts. SA2's story has problems, I won't deny that, there's too many gaps and even some outright cut content that Maekawa admitted himself that he had to remove (which IIRC was put in Sonic X which did clear up some plot holes, but I'd still argue it's not ideal). But it's decent. It's serviceable.
Arguably, Heroes and SA1 have far worse stories, especially SA1 which suffers a lot from just being poorly-written in both scenario and dialogue, even in the JP version.
Anonymous No.718041350
>>718005570 (OP)
Fromsoft post 2002
Anonymous No.718041369
>>718041192
I've seen twitter posts about Sonic but they never had replies that hated on Sonic.
Anonymous No.718041386
>>718006390
>Sonic 1
>>Sonic 2
>>Sonic 3 and Knuckles
>>Sonic CD
>>Sonic Adventure
Yeah
>Sonic Adventure 2
Like 1/3 of it
Advance 1 and 3 were fine, 2 was bad. Heroes was fucking dogshit. Rush was pretty fun.
Haven't played the rest.
Anonymous No.718041458 >>718041542 >>718041657
>>718040293
keep in mind that Sonic is the easiest thing to hate for only one reason, its safe to hate it. Nobody is going to call you an ist or a phobe for shitting on it and you can even appeal to the anti anime faggots considering Sonic is japanese and all.
Anonymous No.718041525 >>718045342
>>718005570 (OP)
Hydro city
Or
Hydrossitty
Anonymous No.718041542 >>718043487
>>718041458
>thing to hate for only one reason, its safe to hate it. Nobody is going to call you an ist or a phobe
Sonic twitter will
Anonymous No.718041607
>>718005570 (OP)
imagine being this asshurt over a funny blue rat
Anonymous No.718041657 >>718041853
>>718041458
Doesn’t egoraptor get his asshole torn open every time he sheets on sonic? Granted he absolutely deserves it but still.
Anonymous No.718041713
>>718040545
>You gave a bunch of nazis from Something Awful
You're on 4chan, an offshoot of SomethingAwful, you're a hypocrite.
>the opportunity to stigmatize furries to this day.
If you know anything about the history of furry subculture, you should know furries were stigmatized since before there even was a Sonic fandom. Hell, even now that furries and Sonic are seen as more "distinct", you have arguably more hatred towards furries than ever before, especially with some recent drama (i.e. that one with the furry cuck that organized that one convention with that bitch that slept with that lizard creep groomer guy).
>You held a mass harassment campaign that forced a major film studio to delay a movie over a character design.
Considering how Paramount handled the Halo series? Yeah I think it was warranted. Also the "harassment campaign" mainly targeted the big corpo, which was a net positive. Also Paramount has notoriously screwed over small creators, see the current South Park controversy too. This was necessary and it gave back people the right to vote with their wallets.
>You're all a bunch of pedophiles.
Those degenerates exist in every fanbase unfortunately, I agree they should be removed and eliminated from any platform.
>You made Chris-Chan a thing.
Bad parenting and unfiltered internet access made Chris Chan.

I am not even a Sonic fan, but I just despise this retarded revisionism.
Anonymous No.718041797
>>718005570 (OP)
It's not possible to make a Sonic game that isn't mediocre because the formula is fundamentally flawed. And I mean from the start.
They would have to completely reinvent the formula and toss out a lot of franchise staples in order to make something genuinely good, but it would upset purists.
Anonymous No.718041853 >>718042624
>>718041657
Egoraptor gets shit on for other reasons, the Sonic stuff is just an ez excuse since he's so unlikeable. Hell, he's the one handling the current Creator Clash after iDubbbz retired and he's getting his ass torn for that given the baggage of the Hasan-Ethan drama that's going on.
Anonymous No.718041971 >>718042094
i mean what's crazy is when you watch someone and they're obviously still seething about the sega commercials from the 90s and they project that onto sonic
Anonymous No.718042073 >>718042141 >>718042168 >>718042226 >>718043705 >>718045431
I just find it weird that Sonic fans latch on to things that are shit like Sonic 06 and Sonic.exe
Anonymous No.718042094
>>718041971
Vinny Vinesauce
Anonymous No.718042120
Why are people so obsessed with convincing Sonic fans that they didn’t actually enjoy the games?
Anonymous No.718042141 >>718042168
>>718042073
Sonic fans are not into Sonic.exe
Anonymous No.718042168
>>718042073
>>718042141
yeah exe fags are complete secondaries
Anonymous No.718042226 >>718042370 >>718042437
>>718042073
I will never understand the Sonic.exe obsession, especially since everyone universally agreed early on that it was a shit Creepypasta.
I guess it's the same reason people were still captivated by Jeff the Killer for the longest time even if the pasta was absolute fucking dogshit even in it's earliest stages. It took a while for people to admit it was shit and only focus on the image's origin, since the image is arguably more interesting than the pasta given that the origin is lost media.
Anonymous No.718042370 >>718042879
>>718042226
it's very young, autistic alphoomers. the very premise of it doesn't even make sense.
Anonymous No.718042437 >>718042879
>>718042226
Anyone who ever tells me Sonic.exe is "shit" I remind them of that coronation day mario knock off of it that people pretended was CUHRAZY AND SO COOOOOL.
Anonymous No.718042624
>>718041853
I just say the match between rain and that harley guy. Why is Arin so chubby if he works out all the time? Why does he have the hair of a black guy? What is his deal with the color pink?
Anonymous No.718042879
>>718042370
True on both fronts. I don't think I've ever seen anyone older genuinely like Sonic.exe

>>718042437
People like Coronation Day?
Also, yes. Sonic.exe is shit. As are most video game creepypastas barring a few exceptions.
Anonymous No.718043459
>>718029243
Zamn that gameplay looks fire! Not even being sarcastic!
Anonymous No.718043487
>>718041542
>the people you shit talk are going to call you out for shit talking them
Wow, we got a genius over here
Anonymous No.718043543
>>718005570 (OP)
Kingdom hearts.
Anonymous No.718043571 >>718043695
>>718031298
Peak 3D Sonic
Anonymous No.718043630 >>718043760
>Best looking background aesthetic is only in competition mode
Anonymous No.718043687 >>718043843
>>718035579
Meta Multimedia Era
Anonymous No.718043695
>>718043571
>Baldy McNosehair
Is Eggman canonically Irish?
Anonymous No.718043705
>>718042073
Everyone still doesnt like Sonic.exe, it only got a resurgence because of a Friday night funkin mod that got decently big and people latched onto it because of nostalgia mostly but then it spawned a subsection of people who only like Sonic exe and nothing else about the series. Also 06 love is mostly just nostalgia, but it wasn't all bad like the music and the whole shadow story was actually pretty good. Don't trust the fags that say it's all good though because it isn't.
Anonymous No.718043760
>>718043630
Sonic Megamix
Anonymous No.718043843 >>718043935
>>718043687
Prime was the biggest piece of shit ever. Such a waste. I don't get people who try to defend it because it's just so fucking bad and boring
Anonymous No.718043935 >>718044510
>>718043843
What is it about? What's so bad about it?
Anonymous No.718044149
>>718038417
Only seething sΓΆylennials stuck on the 2010s hate Sonic. The success of the movies showed that Sonic has an universal and timeless appeal.
Anonymous No.718044242
>>718035545
>I literally asked my mom to sell my Genesis and buy me a SNES because of how much I hated Sonic.

Based, the SNES had the cool Mode 7 effects! And all the Genesis had was Blast Processing or something lmao
Anonymous No.718044451
>>718035902
Man Sonic Advance was the greatest, the Staff Roll of Advance 3 always brings me to tears :(

https://youtu.be/hdD2iF2PJUM
Anonymous No.718044510 >>718044739
>>718043935
>gets advertised with the idea of a multiverse
>do absolutely fucking nothing with it and only make up a handful alternative versions that are clearly just meant to be turned into toys
>cheap looking show despite the animation being quite good
>Sonic is a annoying, cocky (in a bad way) faggot who acts like he just started doing Sonicy stuff
>Show is making him learn something he already knows (power of friendship)
>the eggman variants are all dogshit
>badly written
>meant to be canon to the games which makes no sense considering how sonic is written
>writes itself out of the canon (???)
There's plenty of videos that explain it in more detail but it's a completely pointless and terrible show that could have been so much more. The only good animated content the series has gotten right now are the shorts on YouTube and the prologue animations like the knuckles and shadow ones
Anonymous No.718044562
>>718035545
You couldn't have just... bought other games?
Anonymous No.718044568 >>718045013 >>718045264
>>718037452
Also it took a couple years for MM11 to dethrone MM2 as the best selling which isn’t really good when you think about it.
Anonymous No.718044739 >>718044891
>>718044510
Are there people that actually like it? It doesn't sound like a good show based on your post
Anonymous No.718044885
>>718014719
>Calling 2D Sonic "hold right to win" in 2025
You have never played any of the games to completion, you played a zone or two and rage quit as soon as the level design required you to perform the most basic of platforming. How did these games that were considered easy by 90s standards become some of the biggest retard filters?
Anonymous No.718044891
>>718044739
Only literal children like it. I don't think anyone with a brain and actual taste would enjoy anything in the show besides the animation and Shadow being decently written and having a good voice finally
Anonymous No.718044985
>>718039059
>Imagine if they made a game that was botw tier exploration where your pokemon help you traverse the landscape and solve puzzles. It would sell more copies than GTA 6. I hope they don't though because they ruined their IP with the yearly rehash of the 20 year old formula imo
Anonymous No.718045013 >>718045632
>>718044568
I think the only way to get mega man to take off is to just make a metroidvania style game. It would translate very easily into that genre and would probably be the best selling game.
Anonymous No.718045060
>>718037932
Sonic with the Brothership art style could be cool
Anonymous No.718045098
40 year boomer still mad at a blue rat
Anonymous No.718045104
>>718039059
SV are close to being that but it's just an unfinished mess. The core gameplay and whats there isn't bad but it just needs to be actually polished and fleshed out. ZA seems interesting and gen 10 has had the longest dev time in series history so I can see them maybe finally making a really good game
Anonymous No.718045190 >>718045318
>>718005570 (OP)
Literally every single nintendo fandom lol. Somehow Sonic even in his fucking first proper 3D game had more gameplay and story than Zelda did between OOT and Skyward sword. Don't even get me started on how utterly shit megaman games are. The only difference is that Sonic fans are actually critically minded enough to call out bullshit when they see it, sometimes even overzelaously. Mw to break a megaman fan you need actual literal cancer like MMnB for them to notice how bad the game is. MMX5 is objectively worse than many sonic games, than fucking sonic 06 (despite being more stable) and MM fans will go "eh it's alright"
Anonymous No.718045229 >>718045423
>>718039836
More Amyposting will cure the war in this thread
Anonymous No.718045264
>>718044568
>it took a couple years for MM11 to dethrone MM2 as the best selling
This is exactly what I'm referring to, anon. Though MM3 and MMX1 sold fairly well
Anonymous No.718045293
>>718027857
Nintendo updates their old legacy renders and gives all the characters new models and animations for every almost every game. Sonic has been stuck with the same models from the early to late 2000s for their promotional renders and in the games we've been stuck with the Unleashed/Generations and Sonic specifically has been raped by making pointless edits and just not animating him very well or at all.
Anonymous No.718045318 >>718046202
>>718045190
Mega Man has more good games than Sonic
Anonymous No.718045324
>>718005570 (OP)
I too cannot understand why people don't think my personal opinions are facts and how they can enjoy things that make me extremely angry.
Anonymous No.718045342
>>718041525
HydroCity

Also shoutouts to Casino Levels gotta be one of my favorite genders
Anonymous No.718045393
>>718006798
>unleashed
Bad 3D platformer with bad more 3D platformer coupled together. This game doesn't have drop shadow or proper air precision aiming - how can it be considered good in any way shape or form? Ever since SA2, and later since 06, there wasn't a single proper character controller in the series about fucking platforming. Trying to land on boxes in air in Frontiers is pure cancer
Anonymous No.718045412
>>718005570 (OP)
Sonic autists have it way better than pokemon fags. At least sonic chads actually have good games to fall back on and can hope their franchise will improve as the games dont sell when they suck. Pokemon will always be shit because retards buy it no matter how bad it is and its under the yoke of fagtendo and that asshole Masuda at gamefreak so there is zero hope it can be good.
Anonymous No.718045421 >>718045484
>>718005692
>Early 00s
That series died so hard on the turn of the millenium, minus Generations.
Anonymous No.718045423
>>718045229
I don't have much new art that isn't porn or suggestive but I'll post another cute one
Anonymous No.718045431 >>718045950
>>718042073
>I just find it weird that Sonic fans latch on to things that are shit like Sonic 06
Anonymous No.718045468 >>718045638
Remember me?
Anonymous No.718045484
>>718045421
Sonic Adventure 2 was kino, cope.
Anonymous No.718045632
>>718045013
>metroidvania style game

Any day now
Anonymous No.718045638 >>718045861
>>718045468
Overhated
Anonymous No.718045689
>>718005570 (OP)
Pokemon.
Anonymous No.718045721 >>718045894 >>718045928
Why was Egofaptor such a faggot?
Anonymous No.718045861 >>718047049 >>718053218
Anyone exicted for Crossworlds?
>>718045638
Hated just enough.
>looks like shit
>sounds like shit
>buggy
>terrible bosses
>zoomed in camera despite being 16:9
>does nothing new to evolve the classic formula
>full price
They needed a other month or two and a price cut to $40. Wonder curbstomps this game while looking, sounding and playing much better and doing a lot new and revitalizing 2D Mario
Anonymous No.718045894 >>718046238
>>718045721
Spazkid showed him Chrischan back when it was happening and it was legitimately so fucking traumatizing he decided to be a fag for roughly 20 years.
Anonymous No.718045928
>>718045721
Ugly bitch Yoko Ono wife, sold his soul and art skills for let's play money, held hostage by his new sensitive PC fanbase.
Anonymous No.718045950
>>718045431
>sonic 06
Is as playable and enjoyable and buggy as your average ps1 title really. More stable than fucking stalker, fallout new vegas, vampire masquarade and a lot of other best games ever. It's not a game where bugs are random, it's stupidly consistent in them. So once you know what not to do, just like in every video game, you can have a good time. Also peak music and best level design. Never actually randomly sends you to hell like Adventure and Heroes would sometimes do. WAY LESS BUGGY THAN FUCKING MARIO SUNSHINE.

Sure, the state it was released in is unaccepteable. But in a grand scheme of things it's the most finished of unfinished games i've played through my life. So i absolutely don't see how it's so infamous it's put along Jekyl and Hyde, Big Rigs etc.

Ah and it legit has the best super fight gameplay wise in the series somehow
Anonymous No.718046028
>>718005570 (OP)
Anonymous No.718046054
I like Sonic Heroes.
Anonymous No.718046202 >>718049304
>>718045318
Megaman has a bunch of mid games compeltely uninteresting, X games that try and failr to do anything interesting, and peak Zero/ZX... that are filled to the brim with most retarded shit design ever conceived. Uninteristing at it's best, half baked at it's most interesting.Therefore not a single actually good game. Maybe MMX4? That's the only one that comes to mind. Classics can go fuck themselves with their constant formula repeats, X too for never actually moving on despite constantly baiting you with it.

Legends are kino i guess
Anonymous No.718046238 >>718046837
>>718045894
Idk about that. He was a real NG OG and loved shit like Street Fighter Chode. I think him just putting everything onto his let's play channel and making it a business is what fucked him. Now he's a 40 year old faggot still doing let's plays with his slightly less faggy jew friend.
Anonymous No.718046276
Why would you even call megaman good when it's conveyor slop worse than CoD or AC? Conveyor slop bad
Anonymous No.718046447 >>718046495 >>718046732
All of you are wrong, this is the only Sonic game.
Anonymous No.718046467
Sonic bad!
Anonymous No.718046495
>>718046447
>srb2
Bad platforming and momentum. Especially in later levels where you need needle precision
Anonymous No.718046560 >>718046732 >>718046813
why is sonic just hype moments and aura now
Anonymous No.718046732 >>718046859
>>718046447
Maybe if it was ported to a good engine with good controls. I love everything about this game except for the gameplay.
>>718046560
This is too pretty and vibrant to be representing frontiers
Anonymous No.718046813
>>718046560
zoomers found out about it. you know what? good. they're helping revive the IP.
Anonymous No.718046837
>>718046238
I was there and got to watch it happen in real time.
Anonymous No.718046859 >>718047003
>>718046732
how's this
Anonymous No.718047003
>>718046859
Closer. Just add random level objects around and some enemies
Anonymous No.718047049
>>718045861
Yeah I'm excited, but I want the Switch 2 version physically so sadly won't be playing it for another 5-6 months. Everything they show of the game always looks really good though and the tracks they've shown have a ton of variety
Anonymous No.718047064 >>718047617
The only Sonic game I wouldn't play a second time is Sonic Unleashed, and I didn't even finish it the first time. Werehog filtered me hard.
Anonymous No.718047374 >>718047448
>>718005570 (OP)

This isnt even close to true. The denial phase was between Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 4. Back then people still had hope. After that literally nobody was fooling themselves that a new Sonic game could possibly be good. We were past acceptance over a decade ago.
Anonymous No.718047448
>>718047374
we've underflowed and now cheap 2000s nostalgia works like crack
Anonymous No.718047617 >>718047770
>>718047064
sadly unleashed has probably the best Boost Gameplay aside of Gens
Anonymous No.718047770 >>718047826
>>718047617
shadow gens has the best boost gameplay cause it isn't boost gameplay - but an actual platformer
Anonymous No.718047826 >>718047909 >>718047910 >>718047982 >>718048258 >>718048667
>>718047770
Haven't played Shadow gens
is it that good?
Anonymous No.718047909
>>718047826
do you like cyberspace
Anonymous No.718047910
>>718047826
yeah, it's shockingly high quality for a Sonic Team release.
Anonymous No.718047982
>>718047826
it's aura farming of frontiers, pace of rush, momentum of gens, and complexity of platforming of colors. And all of that fucking coheisive. It makes every other sonic game look outdated as fuck both in design and visual design. AND IT HAS GOOD BOSS FIGHTS, which is the first for the series probably. Not frontier jank, actual good platformer fucking bosses
Anonymous No.718048180
>>718008284
>fantasizes about child abuse
>tells other people to take medications
Anonymous No.718048258
>>718047826
It's the best game in years. It feels closer to something like SA2 but with boost. Level design is a lot more open and the controls less stiff. I think they finally found the perfect formula but they just need to either rework boost or drop it and bring back the spin dash and or rolling
Anonymous No.718048373 >>718048523 >>718048638 >>718048753
>game made for children as a rival to a game made for children
>one game is a globe spanning mascot, the other is a furfag bait for over oversized manchilds
Anonymous No.718048523 >>718051738 >>718051814
>>718048373
who even plays mario unironically as an adult? It's just boring and feels like waste of time. Doubly so for kirby. You just win with zero resistance, story or like...anything that makes game fun? Even character design isn't interesting to look at
Anonymous No.718048638 >>718048753
>>718048373
>he other is a furfag bait
How so?
Anonymous No.718048667 >>718048740 >>718048759 >>718048904
>>718047826
Fuck no. It's just as janky and full of bad gimmicks as the rest.
Anonymous No.718048740
>>718048667
Go on, make us laugh.
Anonymous No.718048753
>>718048373
>>718048638
i think he's just sexually attracted to one of the sonic girls and he's in denial
Anonymous No.718048759 >>718048904 >>718050104
>>718048667
>shadow gens
>janky
Literally the only one with zero jank lmao
Anonymous No.718048904 >>718050104
>>718048759
>>718048667
You always gotta keep in mind that at the end of the day it's a Sonic Game
It doesn't hold your hand with the controls and lets you be as much of a shitter as you actually are
So when people are actually shit and die they call it jank
Anonymous No.718049304
>>718046202
Lots of Megaman games build off from each other and are just romhacks of each other
Anonymous No.718049420
>>718009581
Pretty fun when you master the controls. Basically the default running style is ass because it's too slow, maneuvers weirdly, and the jump feels weird; however if you use the infinite spin dash the entire game becomes better. Unfortunately, most people that have played Lost World do not know about the infinite spin dash.
Anonymous No.718049462 >>718049507
>>718005570 (OP)
The early games were just Mario for kids with ADHD. I remember the cartoon being alright, though.
Anonymous No.718049507
>>718049462
>Mario for Kids with ADHD
Kirby?
Anonymous No.718050104 >>718051105
>>718048759
>>718048904
Sonic games since generations are genuinely jank, that is part of the appeal I presume. A different kind of jank than Adventure, which was actually good jank, but since Generations the gameplay jumps between being subway surfers and running around empty, linear 3D areas with loose controls. They aren't hard, they just feel like shit. You don't think it's jank because you don't play good games. 2D sections aren't bad though
Anonymous No.718050339 >>718051047
>>718033764
He's the most corporate-looking thing ever. He literally looks like a mascot designed to be on a box of cereal.
Anonymous No.718051047
>>718050339
You're thinking of bubsy
Anonymous No.718051105
>>718050104
I haven't really placed a Sonic game after Gens either.
>You don't think it's jank because you don't play good games
Could be, recently I've been playing the Souls slop for the first time after being a MonHun veteran and boy I feel like the controls are dogshit.
Anonymous No.718051463
>>718014754
>Knuckles is canonically responsible for the death of potentially millions of people
Anonymous No.718051468 >>718051583
>>718005570 (OP)

Honestly it's less the actual games themselves and more the fanbase almost exclusively consisting of socially defective people and sexual deviants that keeps me away from the Sonic franchise.
Anonymous No.718051583 >>718051760
>>718051468
Boy oh boy don't look at the Deltarune / Kirby / Pokemon / GTA / Souls / Digimon fanbases then
Anonymous No.718051738
>>718048523
>who even plays mario unironically as an adult
Kid-friendly atmosphere with out of place shit like a realistic dragon so they wouldn't be ashamed for liking a kids franchise in their mid 30's, which is not much different from sonic
Anonymous No.718051760
>>718051583

I actually do enjoy playing GTA regularly and basically use it as an impromptu train simulator from to time whenever I don't feel like turning on Trainz
Anonymous No.718051814
>>718048523
old mario games have a wider appeal but the new ones feel like actual baby games
Anonymous No.718052012
sonic was always good
Anonymous No.718052787
Mario is aggresively mediocre.
Anonymous No.718052970
>>718008909
Just admit you don't like classic sonic lol you're not fooling anyone. Without fail everytime someone brings up the reusused levels negative you find out they haven't even finished the game of which those levels come from to even have an informed opinion about it.
Anonymous No.718053106
>>718008627
>It's not like their story had a beginning, middle and end that's stronger for having decidedly finished
Sly 3 I should have appreciated you more, now I'm stuck with fucking TiT as the final game, it hurts.
Anonymous No.718053218
>>718045861
>Anyone exicted for Crossworlds?
Somewhat, I hope that the Sonic characters added are interesting, don't really care for the out of IP ones because I know the roster wont be as good as ASRT. Also not looking forward to it being $70.