Thread 718030508

I'm so fucking tired of these obnoxious, deceptive animations.

>>718030508 (OP)
still seething?

>>718030508 (OP)
Punishing rolltards is extremely based

>>718030508 (OP)
This reminds me of the time there was an anon here who unironically was making an argument that falling for a bluff is high IQ

This but for watch dogs unironically

>>718030508 (OP)
stop panic rolling, retard

>>718031321
/v/ contrarianism at its finest

Why has nobody made a parody souls yet? Like the goat simulator of souls games? There's so much humor potential in making retarded bosses with animations like this kek

>>718030508 (OP)
Why don't you post a clip of an actual boss attack?

would be more accurate if the enemy kept attacking your corpse like a retard instead of glitching out

>>718031537
FromSoft bosses don't keep attacking when you die, they just walk away slowly, more proof that you shitters have never played these games

>enemy does a basic feint
>internet loses its shit for years

>>718030508 (OP)
Man, I just played through Lies of P and every fucking boss is like that, and has 50 hit combos that give you a 1 microsecond window to counterattack. They just straight up aped Elden Ring's worst qualities.

Is reaction time linked in any way to IQ? This is not a rhetorical question

>>718031386
panic rolling is the best way to avoid that kind of attack though, at least until you've seen it once

>>718031678
I guarantee you I have more hours than you

>>718030508 (OP)
The real bad thing about this isnt the dodge its the having to wait and not being able to lets say, attack and stumble them or something

>>718030508 (OP)
Countered by literally just walking behind him btw. Even enough time for a charged r2. It's kinda based how they changed the flow of combat to not just be about read rolling and spamming R1 like it was in demon's souls. Even PCR is easy if you just use your fucking brain

>>718030508 (OP)
hmm

>>718031461
They did
It's called elden ring
>checked
>fpbp
>/thread
>lololol
>reaction image of frog laughing
>>all these seething replies
>>they hated him because he spoke the truth
>eldensissies... our response?
>KEK
>>I want to have sex with Ranni
>based
etc.

>>718030508 (OP)
Skill issue

>>718030508 (OP)
>FromKINOWARE tests your patience as a primary game mechanic, one of the greatest virtues in life
>mass-filters discord /v/ermin with terminal ADHD

I fucking kneel...

>>718032268
>Countered by literally just walking behind him btw.
They have instant tracking to face you. They can spin 180 degrees in 1 frame.

>>718032268
>Just walk behind him
>Turns 360+180 degrees and nails you

>>718031321
alright. that's a new form of retardation

>>718030508 (OP)
lol that is so true
Also it doesn’t matter if the hammer hits you, as long as you are in the roll state

Some deeper mechanics would help a lot

>>718032515
>>718032554
Not true. Radahn has to run in a semicircle like a retard, or otherwise has to use a wide sweep. Margit, who is clearly being referenced in the OP, has an easily recognized tail swing, not that he can cancel out of his hammer smash to do it. Just admit that you can't fathom anything else than spamming circle when a boss raises his weapon

>>718030508 (OP)
Maybe I just never got it and the combat was the point the whole time.

>>718032023
Quick search through a couple studies suggests that higher intelligence results in faster reaction times.

>>718030508 (OP)
>add nonsensical delayed attacks to your game
>win goty
It's that shrimple

>>718030508 (OP)
Only a few bosses do this(base game ER) everyone else is fairly honest

>>718031461
> souls parody
> japan would start off doing a good job but by the end it would just become what it was parodying (ex: Disgaea)
> the west would just make a deconstruction with devs so up their own ass they would be nose blind to full septic tanks (ex: most of the currently made media)
maybe the russians can do it but I don't know enough about their devs to know for sure

>>718030508 (OP)
Not far off.

>>718032360
dios mio...el negro gigante (forma de lag)...

>>718030508 (OP)
Turned 360 degrees and floated away. Based.

>>718030508 (OP)
What's crazy is that you could memorize the fact that the hammer tips backwards right before the strike to dodge that consistently. The webm defeats the point it was trying to make.

>>718030508 (OP)
All this would be fine if these games don't have sprint and dodge roll on the same keybind. One of the best Ash of Wars/ Weapon Arts is just a dodge on keydown for a reason. The default roll is like playing on 300ms ping

>>718030508 (OP)
kek, so true

>>718034119
No I think you are missing the point

>>718031321
kek

>>718034328
I think you're missing my cock in your mouth

>>718031386
And start panic jumping.

>>718034119
Now try getting through the game the first time without dying.

>>718031678
>Fromdrones don't even play the game they base their entire personalities on
How sad.
https://youtu.be/-itmICM-oSo?t=30

>>718034451
I'll get through your mother without cumming

Looks like a fun challenge mod, when can I fight this on a RL1 Wretch?

>>718030508 (OP)
>expedition 33 final act enemies

>>718031461
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3570470/Dark_Farts_Parody_Smell_Edition/
You're now morally obligated to buy this game on release.

>>718032268
>use your fucking brain
Translation: Die to the boss dozens of times to learn his patterns. Spends hours practicing and then record a 20sec clip to prove your point

>>718034594
Inshallah you have disgraced your bloodline.

most souls bosses are like shitty kart racer bosses that feel impossible at face value but have one really easy shortcut that completely invalidates all difficulty. can't believe people brag about their epic boss kills in a game that's programmed to allow an eventual victory

>>718032268
The player is 1km away, you'd never get behind him in time.

>>718033168
>I'M ELDEN RINGING

>>718034847
no u

>>718030508 (OP)
>shield up
>poke
>poke
>poke
>blood proc
>block
>poke
>poke
And he’s dead. Solved

>>718032268
A lot of bosses with attacks like this have some pretty crazy tracking. An example off the top of my head is the magma wyrm in his second phase has an overhead slam like this which starts tracking a second before he swings as a feint and then continues tracking when he actually swings, which gives it pretty close to if not actually 180 degree range.

>>718035091
>block
He crushed through that shit, anon. And btw he still has 99.9% health.

>>718030508 (OP)
It's just a matter of perspective. You can either see it as a 7 second long attack animation, or 7 completely free seconds to do whatever you want while the boss is standing still.

>>718031461
I'm playing Nightreign right now.

>>718036407
Until you attempt to attack, at which point the boss instantly drops the hammer on reaction.

>>718036502
This lmao

>>718036502
Then it's not a delayed attack at all and the timing doesn't matter.

>>718031982
Does this happen late game? Or in the dlc?
Because I reached the point after beating the king of puppets boss and the boss-fights thus far have been trivialised by me simple walking around them, and admittedly I still haven't nailed how to consistently do perfect guards so this might bite me later on. especially since of all enemies the mad clown mini boss gave the most trouble so far.
>>718032765
I was really surprised at how how much of a cakewalk PCR became when I simply started walking to his left instead.
>t.Used deflecting tear and played (almost) the entire DLC with a medium shield+greatsword
Also, I really liked the medium shields the dlc introduced, though their likeness should've been in the base game in the first place.
>>718036458
>Nightreign
It surprisingly doesn't have a lot of that and bosses are more on the experimental side compared to base ER mechanics-wise, I feel. Either that or base ER+DLC has officially rotted my brain.

>>718030508 (OP)
Why did AC6 hogged all the good bosses?

>>718030508 (OP)
That’s not what they do though. What happens is the animation is locked to the player character. So the sixteen ton 20ft giant will lift the skyscraper over its head and ramp up a huge downward swing but then, when the player character statelets to get inside the swing and around it, spin around in mid air to ensure the attack connects, and the only way to avoid damage is to have iframes active at the exact point of artificially generated contact.

Or worse the 16 ton 20ft tall skyscraper welding giant won’t even move, and despite the fact the player character is a dozen yards away from the impact site, is still killed

>>718033678
always gets me

>>718030508 (OP)
There was unironically a way to tell when the attack was going off

>>718034527
>had to dig through youtube to find a video where it conveniently cuts out every time he dies
kek post an unedited video, tranny

>>718036897
Man, I really hope their new game is an AC title, AC6 was so much fun. Flawed, but nonetheless very fun.
Also Ayre has to be their best female lead to date, and I'm gonna die on this hill.

>>718034634
This isn't even making fun of Indians but is just a straight up Indian product. I don't like that.

>>718030508 (OP)
>Remove i frames from dodging
>make hurtboxes and hitboxes slightly smaller than the models so that dodging can be done purely through positionjng
>give bosses lunging, sweep, slam type attacks to make players altnerate side rolling, back stepping, jumping and blocking to avoid damage
>let players cancel dodging into blocking and vice versa
I have fixes your game. I also turned it into something that's not a Souls game because it's no longer shit

Those attacks are to deliberately fuck with dodge roll only players
Use a shield or summon some help, or cry about roll timings like the fag you are.

>>718037221
>Fromtranny thinks searching for a death compilation is digging through youtube
>Fromtranny doesn't even recognise Margit's back jump attack
Seriously, how the hell did Fromsoft attract so many deranged troons?

>>718037584
Yeah that sounds good

It's hilarious how /v/troons turned on souls games because they became popular.

iframes were a mistake

>>718030508 (OP)
not dodging when it looks like you should is an essential skill or something

>>718030508 (OP)
Lies of P is so much worse with flailing enemies that turn 90 degrees in mid-air and their animations dont match where the damage happens

>>718037842
yeah remember how that happened with dark souls 1? oh wait it didn't, that was with dark souls 2, the least popular one. it's almost like people stopped liking the games when they started sucking

>>718037881
we love iframes when dark souls 1 does it

>>718037962
It happened with one thoughbeit nice attempt at revisionism.

>>718036897
AC6 bosses have their own annoying bullshit, like being 10x faster than the fastest possible player AC with no EN to worry about and using this speed to instant transmission to the other end of the boss arena constantly where they can safely fire on you with their weapons which unlike yours will deal full damage at any range.

>>718031321
That was me. You're all too low iq to understand

I'm just past Rennala in Eldenring, how far can brass shield + guard counters take me? So far the only guy that was an issue was the Crucible Knight.

>>718030508 (OP)
Lol.
As I said in another thread, once your player base gets really good, you start running out of options if you don't expand the mechanics.
In the latest versions of Tetris Grandmaster, for example, there's a thing called "cyclone" or something like that, where the pieces start coming in with their positions scrambled. This messes with the minds of players who have hundreds of hours of muscle memory and really screws them up. The best players in the world can handle the "cyclone", but they all agree that it's not a fun mechanic. And the devs don't care, because when the cyclone happens, the idea is no longer to be fair or fun...
The bosses in Elden Ring are built with a similar philosophy. That's why playing against them fairly is usually super unpleasant.

>>718038409
If you keep googling where to find the best items to support that playstyle, it can probably kill everything in the base game except a few late game bosses. Incidentally, what size chastity cage do you wear?

>>718036862
If they had unique arenas for each of the bosses I'd agree. They need to get away from this circular crap

>>718039332
Not using one, which type does fextralife recommend?

>>718032430
is this what schizophrenia looks like? why are you imagining all those replies anon? wake up

>>718031321
It's called natural selection. Being removed out from the gene pool is high IQ and badge of honor, not a shame.

>>718031678
Why are you lying? What do you gain or are you just fucking stupid?

>>718030508 (OP)
I am not. Think like a jap dev and you'll understand. "How can I punish players performing x instead of y?" It has definitely been fine tuned at this point since the first souls

>>718038409
you can do all the way to the end credits, but some larger bosses don't give you many chances to land the guard counter

>>718031461
They made it, it's called dark souls 2

>>718031461
Another Crab Treasure, it's surprisingly decent

>>718030508 (OP)
skill issue

>>718030508 (OP)
How else are they supposed to make they games difficult now that everyone knows how they work?

>>718040606
Multiplayer is the only way to have true difficulty that goes beyond flash card memorization.

>>718032765
>Margit, who is clearly being referenced in the OP,
The OP could be referencing many different bosses or normal enemies since DS2

The longer I'm on /v/ the more I realize that /v/ really has no idea what made the Dark Souls games compelling.

It's the 12th yearly installment: Infinite Zanzibart. They like the weapons and the bosses and the cool magic animations.

Dark Souls (the first one) had "combat", but it was "combat" like people actually dueling eachother in the middle ages.
Two people awkwardly slinging around giant bits of metal that slice someone's nipples off before you need a breather and need to back away for 20 seconds.

When you kill 10 powerful demigods you start getting strong enough to hold a bigger one or to do a stronger attack. A stronger attack means that it does 80 damage instead of 50. You get something out of this if you can use it in a context of being able to get close to someone or do a running attack. It doesn't really get you anything on its own.

If you go behind a wall and open a magic chest in some obscure far off location of the game then you unlock a weird weapon that looks like a hammer on the end of a drumstick.

These games were not "combat oriented" at all. There was a lot to learn about it, but there was a lot to learn like you're driving a car. It's just reasonable.
The idea of bosses in Demons' Souls were a joke. The most normal one was the armored spider or something.

I think he said something else like "These games are the most grounded that a universe with magic is ever going to be" or something to that effect.

>>718036407
>Thinking bosses actually have punish windows still
Haven't even fought Margit with his funny little dagger cancels have you?

>>718034119
It's still retarded and they wouldn't need to do this if they didn't make rolling so OP.

>>718041002
>Dark Souls (the first one) had "combat", but it was "combat" like people actually dueling eachother in the middle ages.
yeah people were running around each other backs to stab their enemy for additional damage

>>718041024
They obviously do, even Promised Consort has openings both after and during attacks. How else would you beat them if you cannot ever attack them? Are you stupid?

>>718041024
>every boss is Margit
all these threads boil down to whining about the first boss in the game, a three and a half year long tantrum because an old guy with a walking stick told you to upgrade your weapon first

>>718040407
I was thinking you could build up poise to trade blows but that doesn't seem feasible for PvE now that I look into it.

>>718041428
>How else would you beat them if you cannot ever attack them
Margit has exactly two attacks where he is safe to hit
If you're not baiting those exactly, then the only way you ever beat him was with ranged or by outstatting him

>>718041689
>every boss is Margit
No but there are like six bosses that are literally Margit

>>718042039
Skill issue

>>718041689
Nigga I tried exploring instead of beelining it as soon as the game started and I ended up stuck in a fucking mine in Caelid for like 5 hours for my trouble
I beat the fucking Fallingstar Beast before I reached Stormveil and that made me think it 100% wanted to go there first
It's not a well designed game, and Margit is a shit ass boss

>>718042348
Git gud

>>718032430
beat me to it

>>718042039
I choose to believe this is bait, because I don't want to believe the alternative that someone actually believes this is real.

>>718034450
laughed

>>718031849
If the feint leaves you open to get stabbed in the chest 5 times but that doesn't matter because game mechanics it's a dumbass feint.

>>718042751
Nope it's true
He can dagger cancel every single move he does aside from the big windup swing, the big hammer jump, and the tail swipe indid forget about that one sorry
Sometimes he just won't do for no reason, but he has the capability to whenever

>>718042912
Git gud

>>718031461
Last Hero of Nostalgaia. It's okay.

>>718031321
Yeah, I did that, that was me.

>>718042912
I don't believe that's true at all. Regardless, even if it was true that still doesn't mean there's no punish windows.

>>718041779
You can if you commit to it. There are very strong defense buffs and ashes you can use to win trades with practically any boss, you'll need some faith investment for the strongest stuff but even crab and the cheap 10 faith elemental buffs do good work. The DLC has a physick tear that buffs blocking and guard counters into the stratosphere. With proper timing you can laugh off even the biggest explosions that endgame bosses can throw at you.

>>718031058
This actively encourages panic rolling though.

>>718043189
>I don't believe that's true at all
I know I didn't believe they'd make it so retarded either until I looked up the boss's full move list, but it is true

>>718032268
>is easy
>if you just use your fucking brain
Well there's your problem. 99% of gamers are pure retards

>>718030508 (OP)
Looks like a perfect opportunity to get behind the boss's heel. Unless you're a shitter who plays locked on.

>>718043510
ER provides lock-on points at most big enemies' heels

>>718043380
Have you tried not being bad at videogames?

>>718030508 (OP)
Kek it really do be like that.

>>718033168
This is just Legend of Dragoon, but shittier.