Thread 718052518

>sue and lose money
Is this guy the biggest clown in vidya game history?

>>718052518 (OP)
Billy always has a plan.

karl lobst, get over it

>>718052518 (OP)
>going bankrupt was part of my plan all along
i'm not surprised redditors believed this

karl going for the currency underflow strat

How do I unsubscribe from your X?

>>718052518 (OP)
Is Karl's plan actually gonna work? It reminds me of cases where some guys hand all their assets over to their mom or something before filing for divorce. Usually judges don't let that sort of stuff fly.

>>718052518 (OP)
They're both losers. The only good outcome would be those 2 having gay sex with each other and then disappearing as they deserve each other.

Despite Billy winning I personally think Karl was objectively in right, he was just cursed by:
A. Having the trial in an Australian court
and
B. His own incompetence.

>>718052518 (OP)
HE'S A FUCKING CHEATER
KICK HIM

>>718052906
he was absolutely not in the right to accuse someone of causing a suicide lmao, thats insane

>>718052672
Is e-cat / ersatz_cats just Karl on his alt account?

wtf did i miss now

>>718052518 (OP)
Fuck off Kiwifag

>>718052518 (OP)
It's two retards ruining each other. It's great.

>>718052906
Every time that image gets posted is by someone with the dumbest take.
The trial wasn't about videogames. It never was about videogames from the very beginning. It was about a man accusing someone of murder, a fact that was refuted by Apollo himself, which he made a point of mentioning in his fucking suicide note - and by the way, Karl's friends are named in there but nobody cares.

>>718053163
karls new plan
>give his wife all of his money
>claim that he is out of money and cant pay billy or his lawyers the money he owes
>brag about this plan publicly on the internet
nothing can possibly go wrong

>>718052906
karl misrepresented why he was being sued, for that he's a fag. billy is a cheating retard who represents everything bad about modern boomers, he's also can't win with grace which is objectivity dindu mentality. they both deserve to have their nuts juiced in a blender but billy deserves that plus more. may they both find their way to the worst parts of India where they are mistaken for white women.

>>718052906
The judge's closing statement would never fucking fly in my country because it would be used to prove personal power tripping bias and cause the case to be thrown out and the judge to have his career put in check.
I was honestly pretty surprised by it.

>buried his court issued retraction to Billy in a 2 hour long unhinged rant about how evil and terrible and dumb and mean Billy is
Surely this is contempt of court

>>718053219
Yes, but see my counterpoint: if Leffen can be accused of potentially causing Hax$'s suicide and get hell and high water from the Smash Bros. community (with no lawsuit to be in sight) then why shouldn't Karl be allowed to accuse Billy for potentially causing Apollo's suicide? Karl just had his own over-inflated ego, misuse of AI tools and the Australian courts to contend with and we all know how much that country loves to censor free speech.
Here in the US you can pretty much say a lot of speculation & rumors about celebrities and unless its severely damaging and widespread (like a front page newspaper headline claiming you consume live babies for dinner) they can't and won't do shit about it.

>>718052906
Karl is part of the speedrunning community so he could never be in the right but seriously he is a scumbag mongoloid piggybacking off King of Kong making hating Billy his main personality trait. Not to mention the fact that all these speedrunning troons hated Apollo more than Billy did yet Karl still weaponized his death to take back donkey kong or whatever

>>718052518 (OP)
personally i think this guy is a cheater and scumbagg but to actually try to bring a lawsuit against him over cheating in a video game has to be the most terminally online brain melter I've ever seen.

>>718053464
> Here in the US you can pretty much say a lot of speculation & rumors about celebrities
I'm really curious how the Macron vs Candace Ownen defamation lawsuit is going to end

>>718053531
The lawsuit is about pushing someone to commit suicide

>>718053464
>why shouldn't Karl be allowed to accuse Billy for potentially causing Apollo's suicide?
Because general community buzz and continued, targeted videos from one guy are two entirely different things. On top of all that shit he blew straight past multiple requests to stop and generally refused to take any offramp that could lead to not getting sued. There's a difference between speculation or gossip and what karl was doing and I don't see how he doesn't get fucking rekt in any court anywhere.

>>718053464
>falsely accuse a guy of killing another guy
>guy says I didn't do that and has conclusive evidence
>refuse to retract your claim
it's not rocket science

When everyone was siding with Karl (including myself), i pretended to be a Billy fan because of how retarded that position was. But now that people are siding with Billy unironically, i cannot pretend to be retarded anymore. Billy is a lying fraud and a sociopath.

>>718053761
You were never pretending

>>718053618
macron wife forced to pull down pants in the hague

>>718052518 (OP)
Literally who

>>718053043
kek, plausible. but no, it's some toothless meth fiend.

>>718052518 (OP)
>didn't even get any of the videos he cried about get taken down

>>718052830
No it won't work. The Australian courts will look at him and see that he's still a beneficiary of those assets when he tries to declare bankruptcy.

>>718052518 (OP)
Billy Mitchel is one more mainstream show mocking him as a cheater from putting a gun in his mouth

>>718054023
The courts won't take a dime from a woman. If he was a gaylord fucking a dude yeah maybe.

>>718053260
Didn't this guy basically make it his gimmick for the last couple of years that he was going to make him suffer and expose him lol. Why wouldn't he rub it in and make hotsauce ads with his face

>>718053464
>if Leffen can be accused of potentially causing Hax$'s suicide and get hell and high water from the Smash Bros.
It is undeniable that Leffen played a very significant part in Hax' suicide, a fact backed by Hax' own mother. The same way that Billy not playing a role is undeniable, as claimed by both Apollo and his family. It is malicious slander, plain and simple.
Even so, Leffen shouldn't be blamed for Hax. Even Technicals, in his crusade against Smash, said so.

>>718053219
>Every time that image gets posted is by someone with the dumbest take.
Finally someone realized it's been coopted by trannies and ragebaiters

>>718053878
Gamer of the century.

>>718052830
He didn't hand those assets, his wife was allowed to buy the quota off him, and he's gonna give that quota money to Billy
What i feel he's being misleading on is that this is the end of it. Even if bankruptcy lasts only 3 years in AU, if it works like where i'm from, for those 3 years half of his paycheck should be routed straight to Billy

>>718052518 (OP)
What happened now?

>>718053163
It's a long video but essentially Karl did everything by the books and Billy for all his shittalking lost something like half a million dollars on this lawsuit.

>>718053234
>nothing can possibly go wrong
You right. Because it is not just 100% legal. It is the standard on how you are supposed to do it. Just because you know literally nothing about Australian law, doesn't mean Karl's lawyer doesn't.

>>718056270
>if it works like where i'm from, for those 3 years half of his paycheck should be routed straight to Billy
In my country even banks are only legally allowed to take a third of your salary at once and that's collectively so that being in debt with 4 banks at once will still just take a maximum of 30% of your income divided between them.

>>718056545
If true, that means no one has to pay fines ever, which is retarded

>>718056270
>for those 3 years half of his paycheck should be routed straight to Billy
he gets to make 70k a year, everything above that goes to billy. billy thought he was suing some super rich youtube kid and got fucked in his anus

>>718056270
Nah. He has to reach a certain amount before anything of his salary goes to "billy"
So I'm sure he will keep his own personal salary below that threshold, so that bily gets nothing

>>718055649
Hax's mother is batshit crazy

>>718056609
Or, maybe the retard is you, and you just don't understand what is actually happening, and just go with whatever reddit tells you happened/is going to happen.

>>718052906
Karl was sued for implying that someone killed themselves over Billy suing them.

It had nothing to do with cheating.

>>718053260
this tbqh

>>718056609
If the fine forces someone into bankruptcy, yeah that's how it works.

Billy being deep in the red after mortgaging his wife's house would explain why he made his nephew shill his hot sauce on so aggressively on twitter, commenting on all internet drama with 4chan memes, and why billy's vocabulary suddenly includes shit like "cope" and "seethe"

>>718052830
It's already been approved and stamped by the bankruptcy judge. Australian law allows individuals who file for bankruptcy to sell their ownership in their jointly held assets to whoever else owns them, in this case it was his wife. Since on paper Karl now does not own his car or company that manages his Youtube channel Billy cannot take possession of them and liquidate them to pay the judgement. Karl can also earn up to $70k a year before any of his wages are garnished and paid to Billy and the judgement can be discharged after three years.

I am a Billy fan and have defended him on this board and even bought his hot sauce but it appears that Karl managed to outmaneuver the king. Sure his credit rating will take a hit from the bankruptcy but in the end he will likely won't pay Billy a single penny.

Karl won.

>scams his audience with a gofundme
>never explains why he couldn't disclose what the defamation suit was about
>gets called a liar by the court
>goes bankrupt
>He and his fans still thinks he won

>>718053043
He’s a fat sloppy fag. He swings off Karl’s nutsack so hard

>>718056889
Nah. He didn't win. Nobody thinks that. It's just the billy lost harder.

>>718052830
The laws that let you get away with stuff like that only apply to Jews so unless he's a kike he isn't getting away with it

>>718052959
and?
you're not allowed to be wrong or something?
in a country that actually has freedom of speech I doubt there'd be much to sue on.

I guess the new spin is “Heh, they both lost”

>>718056970
Surely i will believe the words of a scammer who constantly takes things out of context and splices messages and documents together to fit his narrative

>>718057069
You were taken to Aussie court, Karl, stop being retarded on here or I'll take your wife too

>>718056810
It's just a good idea to market while you're getting a lot of exposure anyway. I doubt he's very poor, he wouldn't be fighting lawsuits for what, at least ten years straight if he was.

On the video right after it all happened, the comments were making fun of Karl, as should be expected, but the latest video it's like everyone forgot and is back to jerking Karl off

>>718053260
>BUT HE CHEATED IN BING BING WAHOO
For the last fucking time, excluding kiwicopers and repressed homosexuals, no one cares.

kys dramafags

yeah he's gonna be fine

>>718052672
Billy isn't being humble... Its funny that Jobst lost but Billy is being cringe and exta

>>718057303
>legendary arcade gamer
>no cave clears
>no snk clears
>no namco clears
???

>>718057090
You mean billy?

>>718057268
i just find it funny when you watch king of kong and read about the history of the production, its reminiscent of the pumping iron documentary. a lot of tongue in cheek 'this is serious business' humor, billy literally hamming it up as the villain. and all these speedtrannies took it all to heart, now one is dead and another ruined his life. billy is still the king of kong.

he's a broke dying man and he's going to be remembered as a litigious cheater. he probably wishes it was different but sooner or later he's gonna have to learn this fact

>>718053878
the king of kong you stupid fucking retard

>>718057260
Only the people that actually watched the video are back to "jerking Karl off".

>>718057496
>he's a broke dying man
did jewbst get yet another cancer again?

>>718057567
He'll troon out first for sure

>>718053879
One of the most pompous things I've ever read
He writes like this guy speaks

>>718052518 (OP)
So which of these two men declared bankruptcy?

>>718052518 (OP)
Karls spending all his money on jeet fiverrs to canvas /v/ instead of thinking about what he's going to do when the bankruptcy ruling is challenged lmao.

>>718057650
Billy is gonna be homeless soon though.

>>718057816
of course, husbant...

>>718052518 (OP)
The difference between Billy and Karl is that Billy is a successful business man with multiple ventures. He lost money sueing Karl but was still making money from his hot sauce which got a huge surge is sales afterwards too.

>>718057626
Definitely a psychopath who helped apollo to an hero, likely a narcissistic too.

>>718052518 (OP)
>accuse guy of cheating
>tries to cheat the system when push comes to shove
What causes this?

who does billy owe money to?

>>718056615
>>718056678
Is 70K dollaridoos an average income for aussies? Feels like a big threshold

>>718056609
imagine liquidating all of your assets and not being allowed to have anything to your name for years cause you don't want to pay a 30$ parking ticket

>Billy claims Karl's video lead to him not being invited to the Pinball auction.
>While he also claimed that he wasn't invited because of TG in the other lawsuit.
>Provides e-mail from owner of the auction as proof.
>E-mail is dated AFTER the auction took place.
>There are images of Billy at the auction.

>>718057995
I've heard that all psychopaths are narcissistic, but not all narcissists are psychopaths

>>718052906
Considering that this whole ordeal was because he tried to pass random reddit smooth brain takes as journalism, i can't in good conscience side with karl, him and the other indian fag are an actual menace, preying on people to boost their channel popularity "investigating" things in a completely wrong and oversensational manner just to gather more clicks, i dislike billy but im so glad he made karl step down a notch and frankly i would have loved if billy closed his wretched channel because it would make the world a better place, hopefully he sues karls wife somehow now

>>718058003
His lawyer mostly. Also the bank which remortgaged his wife's house.

>>718056678
>So I'm sure he will keep his own personal salary below that threshold
He seems to have been doing that to begin with. Iirc Karl said that he only had something like 150k to his name when Billy threatened to sue him the first time.
That sounds like he was already just giving the lion's share of his money to his wife, in case some shit like this went down.

>>718058069
I mean Karl is ~1 million in the red because he couldn't take a $30 hit to the ego and retract his claims and apologize to Billy

>>718057456
What gofundme scam did billy start

>>718056609
yeah you figured out how rich people never pay for speeding fines genius

>>718058361
>I mean Karl is ~1 million in the red

He really isn't.

~700k in legal fees
~250k from his wife buying out his shares of the house/company

= ~950k spent

-300k from notch
-250k from gofundme
-200k taxes and credit card debt that he now also gets to dodge

=200k lost in total

Still a massive financial hit, but still less than half of what Billy lost.

Prediction: In the near future there will be an article on ersatz cats website about how Karl lost his bankruptcy claim and how lawyers don't know shit about the law