Thread 718139840

what else are the voices in your mind saying? this is really interesting.

>>718139840 (OP)
how does it feel to be too poor to be noticed by your favorite vtuber?

>>718139840 (OP)
the PS6 will have the same hardware as a $999 PC. stop being tarded

I haven't listened to CT since the laugh box left the show.

>>718139840 (OP)
>Consolekes still suck at math

If you don't want to move from console just say so bro

>>718139840 (OP)
I say this and look like this, unironically. I just blew 600 bucks in a new power supply and a 4To SSD.

>yeah bro just buy a $2000 mid range PC
Sounds good
>that you have to upgrade once the next console generation arrives
see pic

>>718141185
What are 3, 20 year old games you played this month?

>>718141289
Cs2 dota 2 tf2

Been using my $2000 PC (technically ~$1000 because I just updated older parts) for 8 straight years now with no signs of having to quit anytime soon. It's only now falling into console performance range.

PC purists are always so far up their assholes. I've had decent PCs and gaming laptops in my life but the plug in and play of consoles is generally way easier. Set up the TV and go. Sorry you'd rather spend 5 hours installing mods and plonking around with the graphics settings

>>718139840 (OP)
Whatever cost/performance PCs use to have is gone

I've bought a $2000 PC like 7 years ago and I still play everything on it.

>>718141185
Yep. I'm playing Witcher 1 for the first time on my 7800XT.

>>718141498
Did you actually play 1.5k worth of games on it?
Because ps5 games are stupid cheap if you trade with friends

>>718139840 (OP)
I'm sorry you can't afford to put more money into your hobbies in order to have a better experience

i've been using the same pc since 2017

I have a $2000 dollar PC and it will be able to max out GTA6 just fine because 1440p is a meme.

>>718139840 (OP)
>dude just spend a bunch of money to play the same games you're already playing at 200 fps on ultra settings
no
if any good new games came out I would, but here we are

2000 would get you a 5080 or 4090 wouldn't it
Ps6 probably won't even have something that nice

>>718141671
Be me get expensive pc because I have O other hobbies.
Cap the fps at 30 because the GPU fan is laud af.

>>718141635
>Anon is bragging about living the ghetto

>>718141397
>retards acting smug over how retarded they are
in ${currentyear}+10 of all things
you could just bring up couch co-op, an actually coherent point, but needless to say retards don't think so hard

>>718141289
GTA SA
Need for speed III
Dawn of war soulstorm

>>718139840 (OP)
>poorfag argument.
I'm sorry money is a problem for you. I hope things get better.

>>718139840 (OP)
PC gaming is not for poors.

>>718141891
It's a small village thing we buy games together they end up costs you 5€

>>718141357
based zoomer can't even count to 25

>>718141683
Based 1700x owner.

>>718139840 (OP)
I'm gay.

>>718141397
It's almost like there's a reason PC master race says stuff like "console is more your speed", retardo. Ketchups are for the tech illiterate.

>>718141289
Max Payne
Morrowind
Killer7

i don't get how people think computers are hard. it just plays games at the push of a button. i don't do anything to my computer other than clean it with CCleaner once in awhile. i might even think retards are still getting viruses and downloading strange things without getting rid of them because they don't have an adblocker. a simple adblock can prevent a lot of that, retards.

mustard race cannot comprehend playing a videogame from start to finish and then playing the next videogame to completion

>>718141185
Doom 2, Diablo 2, StarCraft, Earth 2150, TreadMarks, Neverwinter Nights, Everquest and Painkiller.

battlefield 6 has half the fps you get on battlefield 4 with the same computer

I like how pclards pull up "consoles are for retards" card while forgetting that they have been whining about enabling one option in the bios for an entire week
the truth is that messing with your pc is not an important life skill, actually it's a thing that only incels do and nobody gives a shit about it
rich people purchase a mac because they value their time and they want to get straight to whatever they need, meanwhile poor faggots on 4chan install troonix on their laptops and pretend like that they are the smartest niggas around, the same applies to consoles

>>718141635
What the fuck is "1.5k worth of games" my stupid friend?

>>718142590
The money you save by getting a console instead of a 2k pc?

>>718139840 (OP)
I used my last PC for 9 years. If I couldn't get a PC, I still wouldn't buy a console.

>>718141397
Wdym? Mods are great.

>>718142670
The only thing you save is not having to spend $500 to use your own internet on a console for 7 years.

>>718142238
Those people see a settings menu and start crying, anon. You don't understand. Making choices is scary for them, so they want something that gives them as little choice as possible.

>>718139840 (OP)
>instead I'll spend $200 on a low end PC then bitch about optimization 8 years later when 5 year old consoles have better specs than me
You faggots are supposed to either spend alot now to upgrade much later or less now to upgrade sooner. You buy low end shit and expect everything to halt for your 1650. You broke retards have dismantled the pc master race persona in a single generation. Now we got fucktards putting 40xx cards into 4-6 core machines and wondering why game still unoptimized.

>>718139840 (OP)
>series x and ps5 is better than a MAJORITY of pc gamers.
Bout time you people upgraded. A RTX 5050 is literally $249 covid prices ended like 2 years ago

>>718142910
What you dont spend in paying for online is just made up for by spending thousands for graphics cards anyways.

>>718143284
>look into the stats
>turns out the 3060 is pulling up the average
>large percentage are still running GTX and RTX 2000 cards
PC gamers are more brown and broke than ever

I play videogames to escape reality not as an excuse to analyse the minutia of hardware

>>718141989
It may not be for them but they're squatting there.
>>718143284

>>718142805
i have used my 750ti since 2014 and it is still kicking
worrying amounts of bluescreen crashes recently when the summer heat was at its highest but reasonably ok now

You can get a prebuilt for under 1k that will last you a decade if you actually take the time to look. You dont need a million FPS, especially since most people wont notice the difference between 60 and 120.

>>718142467
>you only get half the fps playing bf6 compared to bf4
as opposed to the zero fps you would get trying to play bf6 on a bf4 era console?

>>718141527
based
make it past the chapter 2 swamp and the game gets waaay better

>>718139840 (OP)
my pc cost 1000 euros, built it 2023
has a 4070 and I don't see the need to upgrade at all
plays all games at max 1440p 60 to 120fps, generates AI slop
I'm happy

>>718141289
Theme Hospital (28 years old).
Metal Gear Solid Integral (25 years old)
Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation (26 years old)

>>718142123
I'm a gay bug.

>>718143369
>>718143284
>opt-in survey
nope

>>718139840 (OP)
you don't really need to upgrade until they start making games worth playing.

>>718139840 (OP)
I did that 11 years ago and I still haven't come across something I wanted to play that it couldn't handle.
TBF I did have to change the GPU but only because my last one was a dud that burnt out in like 3.5 years. Current one going strong still for 8 years or so

>>718140132
Maybe a $999 laptop, lmao.

>>718141289
>this month?
Let's see...
Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds
Star Wars Jedi Academy
Mystery of the Druids

>>718141397
>Set up the TV and go
That is patently not true, faggot. Why are you lying like that when everybody can prove you wrong in an instant?

>>718141924
What console games still have couch co-op, and what console games still have splitscreen?

>>718139840 (OP)
As if, according to the leaks PS6 is gonna be shit plus there's the handheld that will hold it back.

>>718141289
All I've played this month is Rome Total War

>>718144635
Copium

>>718141289
I played some 30 year old games this week, those being Quake, Quake 2 and Duke 3d

>>718141289
>release date October 2002

>>718139840 (OP)
>>718142123
thread is t+2 hours and only a SINGLE post
fuck this board

GeForce RTX 5080 is not mid range and it will be faster than next gen consoles.

I think the biggest issues is that console used to be so underpowered that they were pretty much outdated on release.
Now you look at ps5 pro, that's 15tflops which is about a 3060.
Problem is even high end GPU that cost 1k+ like 5070ti / 7900 XTX are not able to bruteforce the shit that releases on PS5 and run it at native 4k, in part being a massive flaw with the modern engines like unreal and the small gap in performance.
So your ps5fags get a 720p upscaled to 1080p @ 30fps experience, and you, with your gpu that's technically 4x better you get a 1080p @ 60fps experience. And since all the upscaling fucks up image clarity and sharpness you end up with a blurry mess that's barely different than the consolefags. Yipee.

>>718139840 (OP)
Has Nick done anything funny since Year of the Dragon? His appearances on that talentless Jewish bug's show don't count.

>>718145757
being dead serious when I say this. It's cool that PS5 has those specs, but if there aren't any games to use them with there's no point.

>>718145757
What happened to Steam boxes? PC boxes with economies of scale to push the prices down. Gabe!

>>718143284
I'm currently in the process of upgrading. Pick related is what I'm getting (local prices converted to usd).

>>718141397
"set up tv and go" was true 30 years ago

modern consoles have way more annoying setup than just using a computer

>>718147231
Great, fair warning though you'll come to the reality that most guns are optimized.
People just have shit computers. Welcome to the master race

>>718147351
>modern consoles have way more annoying setup than just using a computer
-T Last console I ever saw was an Xbone in 2013

give me 1 ONE good reason to replace my 1080ti
im waiting

>>718139840 (OP)
You don't need to upgrade.
You don't need to play the lastest AAA goyslop on ultra.
You just need decent hardware.

>>718141391
What's your CPU?

>>718139840 (OP)
Yes. I have money so I can do this and not rely on shitty proprietary peripherals that only play a limited selection of games and nothing else. The 2000s are over kid.

>>718147831
i got a switch 2 which is the newest console so far and it was annoying as fuck, it kept telling me I needed my old switch which I didn't have on me

>>718147871
Driver support for the 10 series ends in October.

>>718144635
I wish we could filter the results by country or language.
I don't care about chinks.

>>718147902
>You don't need to upgrade.
>You just need decent hardware.
I feel like those 2 points aren't compatible for a lot of people.

>>718147871
better performance, higher framerates, smoother gameplay, and less powerdraw doing it

even a bottom tier card like a 5060 will give you 150% the performance while using half the power

>>718147831
Okay, I'll bite.
I buy a PS5 with whatever is the current game. I already have a TV. I have never owned any Playstation after the first one.

What are the steps necessary to reach the main menu of that game, and how long does it take?

>>718147992
..... You chose system transfer without having your old system. Maybe consoles ARE too complicated for you

>>718148179
Why the fuck are you asking me for? About the same as someone buying a prebuild pc.
>connect to internet
>update OS
>sign in
>insert disc (install steam)
>install and you play the game
Are you people being obtuse or as an American am I not aware of 3rd world shitholes that can't phantom what a modern console is.

>>718148135
ah yes, let me upgrade my 11gb to 8gb vram. real performance booster there

>>718148069
The 1080ti hasn't had meaningful driver improvements since late 2018. All those game ready drivers to "fix" a new games are hacks that can potentially be harmful to other games just to say that you gained 3-5% more fps. They are never worth it.
Right now nvidia is pushing out drivers as much as they can to fix bugs and crashes with the 5xxx series but for someone like me on a 4080 I've only had issues when updating to newer ones, so I rollbacked to one from december last year before that new gen came out and it fixed all my issues.

>>718139840 (OP)
My pc is 10 years old and I was able to run the Battlefield 6 demo. Plus I used the same case. Still use the same keyboard and one of the monitors too.

Console people really buy a 500 dollar machine, 500 dollar TV, 350 for five games, plus an online subscription and wanna talk about money spent.

>>718148368
You're also upgrading your Memory type used in the gpu and features DLSS.... Wait do you know how gpu's work?
Or pc parts in general? right you know a 4 core i72600k is not just "4 less cores" than a i710700k right?

>>718148349
So you're talking out of your ass like the fucking illiterate retard you are, thought so
>phantom
Dumb phoneposter

>>718148615
.....literally u

>>718148368
yeah, 150% of the performance, I already said that. can you not read or something?

>>718141289
Heroes of Might and Magic 3
Modded Super Mario 64
Modded Ocarina of Time
Gauntlet: Dark Legacy

All this week

>>718148729
what mods

>>718143369
>only poors are retarded enough to submit the OPT IN hardware survey
We know. It's optin for a reason so that anyone with a brain doesn't submit their results as raise the median result.

>>718148656
>literally NO U's because he has no arguments
lmao

It's ok though lil bro, I accept your concession

>>718148662
Don't bother these retards never looked at a comparison graph for any peice of tech.
Dumbasses don't even understand generations have more benefits than just vram. Fuck in this pic it's the same amount of vram but still better.
Let these retards live in their ignorance.

Why is there a console war against PC, they aren't owned by "the pc guys". There's no competition, its not proprietary hardware save for the graphics cards and the motherboard if you really stretch that meaning. Maybe the OS if you're stupid. Point being PC isn't in the same league as company hardware that plays exclusive programs.

>>718141289
Mega Man Network Transmission
Mushihimesama
Resident Evil 4

>>718139840 (OP)
Who the fuck told you mid range PCs are $2000?
Who the fuck said you need to upgrade every console generation?? I'm still running an i9 9900k and an RTX 2080 and i can still run most games today. People are just getting dumber as time goes on.

>>718148910
Easy (You)s.
They are only "pretending" to be retarded.
They are retarded

>>718141289
Pokemon Emerald
Fire Emblem Blazing Sword
Lord of The Rings The Third Age (GBA)

>>718141924
Even still I do couch co-op on PC all the time

>>718139840 (OP)
PC has games. Consoles have none worth buying a whole system for.
It's funny how home consoles are on their death bed and MS and Sony are actively sunsetting them as we speak, yet there are still faggots that claim that there is any reason to get a console in 2025.

>>718149040
>games perform better on a console than your pc
Couldn't be me. Shameful honestly. The pc master race is filled with retards like you who can't be assed to put money into their hobby. The point of pc was always the superiority of freedom and power compared to consoles.
Get a job and upgrade your pc retard.

>>718143369
The 3060 is truly a glorious card

>>718148759
Shotgun Mario 64
Master of Time

>>718141289
Victoria 2.
Metal Gear Solid 2.
Romhacked Pokemon Emerald.

>>718149191
I make more money than you lol

You brokies (yes YOU) if your GPU was made during trump's first presidency. There's no excuse. For the love of God upgrade and stop holding back gaming.

No, a mid range PC should cost about £700-800 (or £800-£1000 if pre-built). You aren't doing zero research and trusting those pre-built sites that jack up prices to an insane degree, right?

>>718149370
I still got a pc AND console better than you :^)
Its called budgeting for your hobby.

>>718149191
You sound like a dicklet

>>718149440
You are a broke nigga. I don't care at the end of the day. It's just strange people on a gaming Coomer board boast about NOT having a pc that's on par with 5 year old consoles.
Seems.... Retarded and gay.

>>718149191
Posts like this only encourage me to not upgrade even more. I'm glad I'm holding you back, faggot.

My 2080 can still run anything better than the base PS5, and there haven't really been any games that are enticing me to upgrade past that yet

>>718149372
Now that's pretty much guaranteed to be slower than a 1080ti barring FG DLSS fuckery. lol

>>718149662
Based and 1000% correct, both morally and intellectually.

>>718149372
That card's hot fucking garbage, at that point get an Arc B580.
>b-but muh dlss and 4k gameplay
Grow up.

>>718149662
And let me guess there's also no game with denuvo worth playing?you poorfags have fun coping with each other maybe you should make a discord server and talk about how it's not your shit pc. Modern games are the issue.

>>718149806
Currently playing Clair Obscur and I really enjoyed the demos for Dynasty Warriors Origins & Hell is Us

go ahead consolefag, speak a lil 30fps for em

>>718149662
A 2080 only gets like 60fps at 1440 on BO6 meanwhile a base ps5 runs it at 1440 at 120fps

>>718140132
with none of the customization.
i'm still pissed and i can't even pull my saved files from my PS5 without purchasing a PS Plus subscription. and even then it only means i can only transfer saves between 2 PS5 via their online interface (not via USB or SSD method). That's when I promised myself that I will not be purchasing the PS6 I can only cuck so much before it gets ridiculous.

>>718149995
Name a single game made for PS5 that doesnt have a 60fps option

>>718139840 (OP)
I only upgrade every 3 hardware generations, by then I'm only running games at 80fps instead of 200.

>>718150061
OUTRAGEOUS, LUDICROUS, SLANDEROUS

>>718139905
That's not even a burn, that's just self-incriminating cringe.

>>718141289
BG1, BG2, BG:ToB.

>>718150069
This. Let the goy cattle soi face at their numbers go up meme. OMG this card runs Rooty Pooty at 85fps not 68fps take my money!!!

>>718139840 (OP)
>$2000 mid range PC
ive literally built PCs for $200 that can play majority of the games
its a literal skill issue but the problem is game devs are fucking retarded
>visual fidelity hasnt improved since 2015 yet requirements keep going higher
AND EVEN THEN even the latest hardware cant run current-day UE5 slop

>>718150017
You think because it says 120hz it'll run at 120 frames? lol

>>718139840 (OP)
Haven't upgraded my PC in almost a decade and can still play just about anything just fine. Sucks to be you.

>>718150041
This is the big net gain for PC over console for me, which is also why I even used my Deck more than my consoles until I got a proper desktop. Being able to do mods, emulation, fan games, all the arcadey indie/doujin games that haven't made it to consoles yet is just too valuable for me. I've got a VGA monitor hooked up as a second screen for my desktop too for retro emulation and I am so pleased with the setup

>>718141289
Alundra, Shin Megami Tensei If, and Kirby and the Canvas Curse.
Wow, DS games are 20 years old now. Brutal.

Nick Mullen?

>>718150330
It literally does. There are countless documentations of Call of Duty running at 120fps on base PS5.

>>718139840 (OP)
I bought a $6000 laptop that I will replace entirely once every 5 years.

>>718139840 (OP)
I don't know who that ugly faggot is but I mog him

>>718150316
>$200
How? Give us a specs example, and maybe where you purchased from/what price. I'm genuinely curious. Are you refurbishing broken components?

Okay, but why CAN'T you afford 2k every other 5 or so years?

>>718143369
How big of a leap is it going from RTX 2070 to RTX 3070, on a z390 motherboard?

>>718150543
>How?
you can get a chink X99 mobo with a solid Xeon CPU and 16GB of ram for $70
for GPUs it is EXTREMELY location dependent, scour your local 2nd hand websites/marketplaces and look for 1660Tis, RTX 20 series or AMD counterparts
there are sloptubers who make videos with old office machines, but i recommend that as A LAST resort, as it is very janky and not very upgradable

>>718150543
Probably slapping in an used GPU on an office PC going for the landfill.

>>718150510
no you don't lmao

>>718139840 (OP)
>that you have to upgrade
the industry is crashing out, I'm not upgrading shit until I see if we're entering WWIII or Great Depression II

>>718150830
RX580 8GB isn't exactly hot shit anymore, but you can get them for less than $30 on aliexpress now.

>>718150948
ehhh not sure id recommend AliExpress/Temu GPUs they often are mobile GPUs converted to desktop ones or come with a modified BIOS

>>718150708
What games have you finished this year

>>718149372
This pile of dogshit is slower than cards several generations old which is why they wouldn't let reviewers benchmark it until after they forced nvidiot retards to buy it like they did with their other e-waste the 5060. The 5000 series in generational is just garbage, even the drivers are now dogshit. Unfortunately if you listen to a vast majority of normal scum nvidia is basically synonymous with GPU and PC as much are former console retards.

>>718150830
Interesting
How reliable are the chink components?

>>718141950
>>718145085
>>718145196
>>718141289
>DoW
>Jedi Academy
>Rome TW
Say sike right now! I beg you.
There's no way they are that old, those aren't childhood games they are late teen games.

>>718151081
Anon, age is a gift not given to all. Embrace the fact that you have made it this far. Have a good Friday.

>>718151030
requires a tiny bit of research but they are mostly reliable, there is a ukie youtuber that buys them, reviews them and even created software for custom BIOSes
most popular ones are Huananzhi and then Machinist which is kind of a rebrand of Huananzhi

>>718147231
If you're spending that much, at least get Noctua fans. Arctic fans are poverty-tier jet engines.

>>718151181
That cool to know, thanks for all the info anon.

>>718151213
np man
also for example the one i bought recently has ReSizable Bar but no Secure Boot, so look into that as well if you wanna get one

>>718150874
Yes. I do.

>>718151192
>noctua
Unless you're getting NF-A12x25, forget them, there are better, cheaper options- like eloops.

>>718141289
No one lives forever.
Diablo 2.
Spyro 3.

>>718144126
spiritual consolefag. get a job faggot

>>718141289
Morrowind
Dwarf Fortress
HoMM3
FATE
Zwei 1 & 2
Recettear
Sacred
Majesty Gold
NFS Underground
Warcraft III
Tony Hawks Pro Skeeter 2

>>718151006
Stellar Blade, Armored Core 6, Elden Ring, Voice of Cards, OPPAI Ero App Academy: Bigger, Better, Electric Boobaloo, Space Marine II, Tales of Vesperia, Monster Hunter Wilds

>>718151282
yo he kinda looking fresh and cool though deadass

>>718151337
The a14x25 g2 are good.

>>718143060
>bitch about optimization
but the problem is current day UE5 slop is laggy and choppy even on latest hardware and even on consoles
but keep coping consolecuck

>>718147231
>9800X3D paired with 5070ti when 7800X3D is within few percentage points in 1440p
>overkill motherboard
>overkill PSU
>overkill SSD
>no reason for 64Gb
If this is for gaming it's overkill and you will see little benefit for the extra you spend. Some productivity workloads might warrant it.

>>718151527
Sure, and you only live once, an I right?

>>718141397
that's because you're low iq
and there's nothing wrong with that. it's not like you can raise your iq
consoles are indeed better for most people

>>718141289
Unreal tournament
Gothic 2
Fallout 2

>>718147231
Where do you live? I would never spend almost a grand on a fucking 5070 ti, it's not a bad card by any means but that is way overpriced. Are the 9070 xt prices bad, too?

>>718148135
>>718148601
>>718148853
yesss buy the latest slop
CONSOOOOOOOOOM

>>718151797
Lmao! I just spitted my chamomile tea.

>>718151192
Noctua are 3x the price
>>718151725
The price difference for the cpu would be like $100, and yeah, it's not just for gaming.
>>718151836
9070xt is about $100 cheaper too.

>>718141289
Bad Company 2: (Private EA's version), Fallout 2: a Post Nuclear RPG, Jackie Chan's Adventures.

That was easy.

>poorfag copium
This is the smellest, brownest thread on /v/ (maybe second to some gacha gooner slop thread). Don't you people have a /dbs/ thread to get to on /a/?

PC losers are brainless

>>718139840 (OP)
PC is 200% worth it.

>>718152191
At 100 dollars cheaper the 9070 xt is definitely a no brainer unless you really love bad drivers and spending 1000 bux on DLSS I guess

>>718152545
coming from a consolekek this is like a jeet telling someone they stink

>>718139840 (OP)
Why consoles are still a thing
Is it not possible to play PS games on PC with an emulator or something, and connect it to a tv
Is there anything special about gaming consoles?

Thinking about upgrading next year. Is RTX 3070 good enough of an upgrade from RTX 2070, or should I spring for RTX 4070?

>>718152969
Do you live in a 3rd world country? Upgrading to 4 year old hardware is very uhhh developing world type shit.

>>718152969
Those are both absolute gutter trash

>>718149191
>muh jerb
Good goy

>>718153130
But which one is less trash?

>>718152969
get the 4070
the rtx3070's VRAM is very limiting already and will be extremely limiting in the future

>>718152969
5070Ti Super or just save

>>718153432
The 4070 obviously but it depends on the cost, even when released the thing was a terrible buy and it's only gotten worse.

>>718152613
9070xt is indeed cheaper and better at rasterization, but I believe that's something 5070ti can handle well enough, and it has the lead when it comes to ray tracing, which feels like the biggest hurdle for performance nowadays, the dlss to cover the shortcoming, and it's also preferable if I were to do something with AI.

>>718153863
>rasterization
If this is your priority just buy a used 7900XTX.

>>718152613
DLSS/DLAA is way beyond whatever version of FSR and FG/MFG is good if you're not planning to upgrade in 10+ years.

>>718139840 (OP)
>you have to
Make me.

>>718139840 (OP)
>that you have to upgrade once the next console generation arrives
Who are you quoting?

>>718153956
I really don't give a fuck which upscaling technology looks less baby oil smeared than the other they both look and feel like shit vs playing on native, which is why it's a good thing my 5080 doesn't need to.

>>718148069
People just don't understand that your hardware will explode once it goes with an update for 3 months. Many people will die in those explosions.

>>718152191
>wastes a ton of money on overkill mobo, RAM and other fluff
>won't spend a couple hundred for fans that won't give you tinnitus or explode in a year
Seems like brown behavior to me

>>718141289
mgs 1 and pokemon

>>718156308
If I wanted to have it matching aesthetically (the pc will be on top of the desk, very visible, so I care), then I'd have to go all NF-A14 PWM chromax, including swapping out the fans from the AIO. That'd set me back about $312.46 (and I'd also have to get daisy chain separately). Compared to the $55.27 for Arctic, that doesn't seem to be worth the difference in their performance. For that difference in price, I could upgrade to rtx5080.
And mobo might be overkill, but RAM certainly isn't when you don't just play vidya on your pc.

>>718154639
You don't have a 5080.

>>718139840 (OP)
What if instead of graphics processing unit it was gay penis unit and it rendered penises on your screen

>>718159382
hahahahahahahahaa hell yeah dude

>>718145757
3060 is low end poorfag territory.

>>718145757
>And since all the upscaling fucks up image clarity and sharpness you end up with a blurry mess
The ugly upscaling I play with has better image clarity than you who avoid any upscalers like the plague.

>>718160920
You don't believe your own bullshit.

>>718151978
did you not see "less powerdraw"?

you're "consooooom"ing less

unless you're a retard who doesn't budget power consumption

>>718145757
>GPU that cost 1k+
>5070ti
Absolute fucking retard. Kill yourself you retarded shitstain.

>>718161025
I do though.

>>718161172
The cheapest listings I see are 900 with averages around 1050-1100, and that's in euros so that's 15% higher in USD.
Keep screeching though I'm sure it's gonna drive the price down.

>native
>taa
not even worth a reply

Show me any shred of proof that when you turn on TAA at your native resolution, it stops outputting your native resolution.
You can't, because it's bullshit. Commence with the cope.

>>718141289
Tiberian Dawn, Tiberian Sun, Red Alert 2, Generals

>>718141289
DoW
Stronghold
Guild 2

Gaming peaked with early 2000s autismo games

When Microsoft drop out Sony will cheap out forever. You won't need 5080 tier cards for much longer.

>>718161810
I could see microsoft selling 100 bucks thin-clients + a controller that are just cloud machines with gamepass subs.

>>718161113
>unless you're a retard who doesn't budget power consumption
im am, because i pay fixed price every month

>"I'm uh, Obama"
>"ehehehehehehehehe"
>"and I'm, uh, gay!"
>"eheheheHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA"

>>718162250
hell yeah dude

>>718161956
>want to make a comment about OnLive
>make a quick Google search just to verify it
>see picrel on Wikipedia
?????
Actually didn't know this.

>>718162250
>My fellow americans.... the mujahideen have launched a sneak attack on my asshole.

Consoles are obsolete at this point. They used to be cool because they had specialized grafix hardware that made them significantly more cost efficient than a home computer, but after GPUs became common they no longer had that advantage. Nowadays consoles need mandatory subscription services just to be able to afford undercutting a budget PC.

>>718162364
Something like OnLive could work well now. Low-latency video codec and if you're not too far away from a datacenter you can get by with 16-32ms total latency. It sucks for precision platformers but for everything else it should be fine.

>>718139840 (OP)
That sounds fine? What's the big deal

>>718141289
Pokemon Emerald
4chan /v/
4chan /a/

>>718143284
My 3060 Ti rips through every game I want to play at the moment, but an upgrade sounds good too.

>>718139840 (OP)
My PC was cheaper than a nintendo switch 1, and has at least 3 times the fun factor.

Um, you're Chinese

>>718141289
>Serious Sam: The Second Encounter (Classic, not HD)
>Deus Ex
>Doom 2

>>718139840 (OP)
Literal schizophrenic retard who has no idea how computers work, It'd take consoles near damn decades to get near where my pc is

>>718141289
Deus Ex
Metroid Prime
And TF2 is almost 20 years old so I'll count it

my pc was only 1000$ and I can play literally every new game. GTX 1080 tis are relatively cheap. I can even run Oblivion Remastered high graphics 50-60 fps. I'll never understand this you need to spend 5000$ just to have a pc that competes with consoles meme.You don't.

>>718150424
No. That’s Dracula.

>>718141289
Right now i'm slowly playing (and almost finishing) Supa mario RPG.
Previously was slowly playing Lunar 2
All in japanese to use it as a lame excuse of "i'm also learning japanese so it's not a waste of time".

>>718151610
Saying deadass is such a Cool Adam thing to do.

>>718139840 (OP)
I'm still gaming on my 900€ pc from 2013
mostly, I got a rtx2070s at some point for about 400€
it's holding up very well
I played elden ring, cyberpunk, and I'm currently playing nightreign at decent quality
so far, so good
>$2000 mid range
oh this is bait

>>718163486
>I can play literally every new game. GTX 1080 tis are relatively cheap. I can even run Oblivion Remastered high graphics 50-60 fps.
you're lying, unless you're running it at 720p (lol)
at 1080p you get 30fps on low with that gpu

>>718139840 (OP)
Personally, I don't see any issue with this.

>>718163486
>GTX 1080 tis are relatively cheap. I can even run Oblivion Remastered high graphics 50-60 fps.

>>718164189
>at 1080p you get 30fps on low with that gpu

Both are false.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5-XEqwfOK8

>>718164189
>>718165198
I could show you video evidence of me running the game smooth at 1080p but I'm too lazy and also I uninstalled the game so I'd need to reinstall

>>718165490
The "optimal settings" of the video pretty much do it.

>>718165678
yes so I am correct as always

>>718141397
Its fucking crazy how common retards like you are now.

>>718165993
You probably got it wrong once or several times, but this time you're not wrong.
And it is not surprising given they probably optimized the game to run on the steam deck.

I love the "THIS GAME IS SUPER HEAVY... but somehow runs on the steam deck" combo.
It's like if the games are actually not that heavy, but there's nvidia shills enforcing higher than console standards so you buy expensive video cards.

>>718141185
This idea is foreign to gen Z, they can't play anything made before the PS2 era.

>>718139840 (OP)
I just go marketplace raccoon mode to assemble a new garbage bin computer for a fraction of the cost and all the fun.
My mid-range pc cost like 500€

livin' the dream

>>718139840 (OP)
Zoomers are weird. You do everything on your phones or tablets?
If you’ve been using a pc for years and years, it’s just the occasional upgrade; seldom to never you’re having to spend all that money at once.
It’s wild to think that current millennials will be helping their completely tech incompetent grand children with the most basic of computing tasks. Complete inversion of the
>hurdurr gramps can’t use a mouse
meme.

>>718169104
Its wild to me we had two whole generations of tech literate people (Gen X and Y), and that's it. The biggest mistake IMO was removing computer classes from schools. Boomers think they are "digital native" just because they can open snapchat and type a text message, as if any of that translates to computer knowledge.

>>718169892
boomers are right though. i have everything i need on my phone and xbox series X
PCs are for indians and brown people

>>718151282
damn, this faggot caught a vibe....

>>718143060
>4-6 core machines
13600k and 14600k are still powerful processors with 6 p cores (and 8 e cores, basically a 7700k)
The i3 on lga 1700 is 4 cores and is better than the 8 cores in the consoles.

>>718139840 (OP)
Is that a real life faggot?

>>718139840 (OP)
The only thing I've updated since this gen dropped was the GPU, and it costed less than the cuck subscription you pay to use your own internet so far.

>>718139840 (OP)
Next consoles are probably going to be like a 5060ti or something at most, there's not room for them to go crazy for under $1000 msrp.
For reference the base ps5 is anywhere from a 2060 to a 2070 super depending on how you want to count (not like it matters when you have dlss on pc) and pro is maybe like a 5060 (but in an alternate reality where it had 10/12gb)

>>718169892
Gen X is computer illiterate? They’ve been using computers since DOS days.
It’s the people who came of age post iPhone that are total retards with computers. Like they can’t even touch type, but Jesus can they use a touchscreen to text.

I haven't upgraded my GPU in 10 years and it still out performs consoles.

It seems so bizarre to me that people are still having this conversation on /v/ no less. PC has already eclipsed the console market, and in case this isn't obvious already, you can use your PC for more than just gaming. Who is even spending this much time doing a cost analysis on something you spend so much of your time on? Boomers get payment plans for boats they use way less often than you use your computer. Are you typing your posts on a fucking phone or the console web browser?

I spend $3000 a month on asian prostitutes, and my "gaming pc" is a 2020 laptop with an rtx 2060

>>718141289
Oblivion with tons of mods after I got bored with Oblivion Remastered
Age of Empires 2 DE
and Dawn of War DE which I just bought

>>718141289
Arabian Nights
Banshee
Disposable Hero
Litil Divil

>>718139840 (OP)
>a $2000 mid range PC
When I built my PC in 2019 for $2k it was the best consumer grade hardware
i9 9900k, 2080Ti and 32gb ram
The price included a nice 27" 1440p monitor too

>>718139840 (OP)
>next console generation
lol

>>718145696
I'm too autistic and face blind to recognize my own best friend

>>718141289
Duke Nukem 3D, Katamari Damacy, Incoming (picrelated)

>>718139840 (OP)
Do guys with beards fuck? That guy looks soi af for example

>>718171281
You could still do an i9 or 285k and a 5080 for less than $2000
The 4090 and 5090 are basically new tiers of cards, they can't be compared to old xx90/titan/80ti releases.
Closest equivalent would be titans in sli

>>718171530
>tfw 12900k and 3080ti since 2022
I'm i still ok brahs? Just played some bf6 and it was okish

>>718171639
Sure why not
It's basically a lower midrange equivalent now, that's totally fine.

i bought an $800 prebuilt 2 years ago and it runs more and better games than all consoles combined and i use it to generate infinite nightmare creature porn for free

I don't have to though. I primarily play indies, emulation and porn games. Modern AAA games are very boring.

>>718139840 (OP)
is a 9800x3d 5070ti 64gb ram 4tb ssd 8tb hdd pre built mid range to you?

>>718151282
damn he gripped a yankees fitted?

>>718171281
No it wasn't.
9900k and 2080Ti alone were $1700+

>>718171639
>oh no, my top of the line hardware from 3 years ago is le bad!
Stfu, retard, what kind of flex is that?

>>718171752
>It's basically a lower midrange equivalent now
So i sound like a brokie. FUCK

>>718172232
Are you retarded? I was asking if my setup is ok for 2025 and apparently it isn't lol

>>718171506
>Do guys with beards fuck?
Sure, why not
They just do it with other men

>>718172325
>apparently it isn't lol
How so, nigger?

>>718139840 (OP)
>$1600 gaming PC
>Save money by not paying for games
>Pirate 20 AAA games
>You just paid for your PC
heh, checkmate virgins

>>718141397
How the fuck you do taxes on console? How about plugging printer or M-Disc drive?

>>718172607
Why would you even pirate AAA garbage?

>>718141289
Counter-Strike: Source (2004)
Vice City (2002)
Fallout 1 (1997)

>>718141635
>>>/t/
What was that?

>>718171853
I don't play coomer games, but otherwise same.
Modern indies, old AAA.

Legit like everyone else said, I bought a 2000 dollar PC 10 years ago and it still runs games very well. Even VR. 6700K skylake cpu and originally a gtx 970, upgraded to a 2070 super 5 years later.

>>718146439
Year of the Dragon wasn't great either, it's like his humor was shackled.

>>718150202
Chad

>>718141289
Diablo 2 for me

>>718146439
He hasn't been funny since covid.

>>718141289
Populous the beginning, SC 1, Diablo 1

Don't let console life cycles dictate your upgrades bros
You can upgrade your PC whenever you want

>>718146439
He's more or less early retired. He was on Jordan Jensen's solo pod this last episode and he seems to just be doing retired people shot. Also didn't realise he's hitting 50.

>>718139840 (OP)
Is that my best friend Nick Million?

>>718139840 (OP)
>yeah bro just buy this $500 console and pay the monthly fee for the privilege of playing your games online

>>718141635
I'm not going to ask my friends to trade their games with me. I like to own things not borrow them. I have a playstation 4 pro, yet I can play more ps5 titles on my PC that will never get released to ps4. Such is the overpriced compromise of consoles.

>>718175178
the ps5 pro is £700 dont know the $ amount but you are on PC pricing at that point

>>718175296
not the point of my post
I'm making fun of consoletards for having to pay to play games online

>>718175178
People don't realize that the console market sells their hardware for a bargain since they will make up for it long-term charging monthly for playstation network and more expensive games compared with PC storefront competition like Valve.

>>718175296
>£700
$948.57
True. I think it's great that we're getting PS5 titles on the PC if you're willing to wait a little while. The industry is in a strange place where game publishers have too much to lose in neglecting the PC market.

>>718175398
my point is you are paying PC prices alongside the shit you said about them paying to use the internet x2 on the their plastic box, what they need to do is keep it 500 or less otherwise why get it, because exclusives come to PC after a year or so and we got backlogs that are massive so we dont give a shit either way

>>718176090
yeah same i get sony needs to do exclusive to sell their boxes so i dont mind the wait

>>718176240
Returnal was a killer exclusive, so I can't hate on the normie paypigs that made such a thing possible. Now we have Stellar Blade too.

>>718176760
i dont hate consoles i played them as a kid the problem is the console industry have forgot the whole point

1. be affordable vs pc
2. offer exclusives, then port to pc a year later
3. be innovative in technology vs a pc build
4. offer mp experiences better than pc for the monthly price

it seems like these pillars have been forgotten and its just MONEY MONEY MONEY MOAR MONEY vibe and its going to be detrimental, its working in microsofts hands already, publishers for example making games more expensive pushes people to go for game pass, publishers earn less now, see the correlation? consoles are more expensive, people are moving to pc, see the correlation? greed kills all industries its a tale as old as time

>>718171530
>The 4090 and 5090 are basically new tiers of cards
not even full die
RTX PRO 6000 is what the 5090 should've been

How come consolefags never take into account the $120 extra they have to pay a year to use their own internet connection that they already pay for?

built a 2080 super PC in 2019, sold it in 2024, bought a ps5 and never looked back. pc gaming is a meme, and a very expensive one. theres no reason to game on pc unless you're a coomer with very specific tastes

shut the fuck up you faggot

>>718177393
You could still be gaming on that today with decent results. You'd still be above average GPU benchmarks of the most commonly used GPU on the steam hardware survey.

>>718177393
>>718179620
Forgot bench.

>>718177214
the fact that they accepted that as a normal thing shows how much of a niggercattle console players are

>>718179704
>userbenchmark
don't use this meme website

>>718139840 (OP)
Still a much better investement than an overpriced console with no games.

>>718139840 (OP)
>being a third worlder mexican/chinese/european
sorry that you're fucking poor

>>718177214
This has always been the most jarring thing for me. Consoles are a scam.

>>718179704
>userbenchmark
LOL

>>718139840 (OP)
I spent 500 quid on a pc in 2015, and 500 on a GPU for it in 2017.

1000 quid has done me well for 10 years

>>718178149
ok troon, go plug your controller back in and pay your online tax so you can keep playing CoD with 12 year olds.

>>718139840 (OP)
still riding my 2,000 dollar PC from 5 years ago. Runs BF6 pretty well, like 100 fps on high settings.

I will probably spend about 3k on a 6090 series GPU and a 9800x3D(500 bucks) and then never upgrade again

>>718176985
The whole point of consoles is to be a child's Christmas present, everything else is just a cope to maintain a reason for 20-40 year old men to keep riding their bikes with the training wheels on.

>>718141289
Pikmin 1
Mario Kart Double Dash
Sonic Adventure 2

>>718181501
Don't forget the SEAniggers.
>>718184412
>>718180168
People shitting on anon for using the website. Offers no alternatives. Let me guess you guys are brown

>>718187334
look up actual benchmarks instead of picking the first thing you see on google

>>718187334
>Let me guess you guys are brown
only a brown clueless retard would ever think userbenchmark is credible
it's the equivalent of joining a conversation about politics by posting a screenshot of what chatgpt told you

>>718139840 (OP)
instead get a $600 console with fake frames that you can't do anything else on and that you have to pay over time to go online with

>>718141185
Jesus, it cost 2000 for a midrange now?

>>718187661
do you believe everything you read on the internet?

THEY SAY MY DICK IS SMALL

>>718187712
Yes unequivocally.

>>718187789
Seven nation army IS the best.

>>718187789
AND I WANNA SEE A WOMEN'S PUSSY

SIKE, NO I DON'T

>>718187661
Everything other than the processor and gpu I just basically picked out randomly, still only $1300 before case
Please ignore the 2nd aio

>>718176985
All of those points are true though.
1. Consoles are MUCH cheaper than PC unless you pirate or do gymnastics no normal person bothers with
2. The biggest insult everyone on this board throws around is that PS5 ports their stuff to PC a year later and everything on switch was better emulated on PC, so I don’t get this at all
3. PC developers chase the lowest common denominator and have to be dragged kicking and screaming to adopt new tech because 98% of PC users are third world running hardware from a decade ago. A perfect example is direct storage which no developer on the planet acknowledged existed at all and refused to support until people pointed out it’s literally what the PS5’s fancy SSD was doing.
4. I adamantly believe the console MP experience is infinitely better than PC if only because consolefags aren’t all on discord 24/7. The cheating situation is also significantly better.

>>718172697
to break even god anon why are you so retarded

>>718190614
I was born this way.

>>718140132
delusional. a ps5 equivalent pc costs at least 1300 usd. consoles are absolutely destroying pcs in terms of value.

>>718190373
>Consoles are MUCH cheaper than PC unless you pirate or do gymnastics no normal person bothers with
If you buy used you can outdo the base consoles for like $225-$250, pro about $500 (native performance before dlss. when that's factored in these builds would rape the consoles)

>>718141635
I've rendered more pixels in my gaming session today than you have on every console you ever owned.

>>718190373
>consoles are cheaper as long as you pretend you don't have to pay a monthly subscription fee

>>718191067
>implying I would ever play (or pay) for online

>>718141289
only only play oot and watch oot livestreams 24/7. does that count?

>>718190747
I pirated at least $5,000 in games on my PC, I made $3,000 compared to if I purchased a console.

>>718141289
Earthbound, Super Castlevania IV, Super Mario World

>>718139840 (OP)
But consoles have no games these days

>>718191067
That’s your only argument though, and it’s only even partially true for PS ($80/yr). No way anyone will coming out losing money on the NSO for $20/yr.
Like realistically the cost of a new gaming PC is $1300 without the case according to this anon>>718188131 and a new PS5 disc edition is $500 - that is literally a difference of TEN YEARS of PS+ before the free access on PC breaks even.

>>718192869
>according to this anon
whats the point of replying when you admit in the same post that you don't even know anything about the subject?

Vros, somehow they fucked up pc too. What's left for gamers now? Everything it's a fucking shop designed to milk the fuck out of everyone.

It's okay to have a modern console. But if you only have a modern console and no computer, then you're not really into video games as a hobby.
It's not like it's the end of the world or anything, nobody needs to make video games their hobby, but I believe that most people who come to /v/ to post are deep enough into this shit to be considered hobbyists.
These threads, then, are not made by /v/ users for /v/ users.

>>718193149
Jesus Christ you people are insufferable. I specifically picked someone else from this thread that none of you niggers dogpiled on - implying it was a reasonable build - in the hope you wouldn’t be such disingenuous pieces of shit, which you absolutely would’ve had I put together my own PC build and linked it instead.

>>718193580
tell me why you're trying to argue about a subject you know nothing about

>>718141289
Morrowind and Diablo 2 (not the remake)
Also I still play WC3 regularly

>>718139840 (OP)
That's why you add $1000 more and buy a high end rig that beats 2 generations with no upgrades required.

>>718139840 (OP)
>next console generation
kek this is less and less relevant every fucking year and you know it.

>>718139840 (OP)
So I can buy a 600$ + subscriptions DRM box that might be able to play games and watch Netflix, or buy a 1500$ PC that does literally everything INCLUDING making me money. Which should I buy?

>>718141397
the deeper cut is that you dont really have to be that smart to build a gaming PC. you just watch a youtube video like every single other retard replying to you before this did when they built theirs

Are PCs not a staple household item anymore? There were like 2 decades where it was essential. Assuming a PC is a must have, I'd rather spend more on a PC, instead of buying a second, worse, locked down PC.

>>718194337
No, the average person can get by fine with just a phone, maybe a laptop supplementing that for classes or whatever.

Gaming PC is more of something you'd expect your minecraft enjoying nephew to be gifted for his birthday

>>718194518
So you're telling there are households with no kind of computer, and only phones and tablets? Grim.

>>718141289
aoe2 if you count definitive edition
halo ce
mercenaries 1

>>718171756
m-more?

>>718139840 (OP)
>He says as consoles keep going up in price
Reminder that Nintendo recently raised the price of the original Switch, a last gen console
In 10 years consoles will costs even more than gaming PCs

>>718193289
Return to not playing unoptimized modern slop
Stop being gay

>>718141289
Age of Wonders 1(so many custom maps)
Morrowind (so many mods I've been playing every day since 2014 and I still have more new things to do)
Medieval ( I started getting into emulating ps1 games)
Good shit

>>718139840 (OP)
$2000 is not what you use on entertainment. That's fixing your car and house money.

>>718139840 (OP)
If 2000 every 5-8 years is out of your price range then shut the fuck and play on consoles instead of crying about having to invest in your chosen hobby.

>>718197056
third worlder detected

>>718147231
you may as well go for a 5080 since the 5070ti is already at one fucking K. I was going to get a 5070ti too until I saw the final freaking price.

>>718139840 (OP)
>you have to upgrade once the next console generation arrives

>>718139840 (OP)
They wont have to upgrade it. You know how i know? Im still on ps4. Theyre still releasing games for ps4, and theyre barely better on ps5.

>>718190747
you are the one who is delusional AND ignorant. The PS5 is a absolute piece of junk by now, literal 2019 PC parts. You can easily build a better PC for 500 bucks by now. A PS5 is a Ryzen 2700x + RX 6700 equivalent, components I wouldn't accept even for free.

Should I also consider upgrading my PSU? I believe it's currently at 650W.

$1300 will get you a PC that will remain viable for 5 years easily
am4 is still totally viable with the 5700x3d for less than $300
9070xt for $600 (if you can get it for that) can play every game at 2k at over 100fps

>>718187334
>Offers no alternatives.
literally anything is better than userbenchmark

>>718198616
No unless you have problems with it or are about to upgrade your GPU and/or CPU such that 650W isn't enough anymore?

>>718139840 (OP)
Why upgrade when I can get two more newer desktops, a laptop, a mini pc, a steam deck, a handheld pc, and a whole bunch of shiny new accessories?

$2000 isn't a lot of money but I think it's retarded to spend that much on a PC if you're just gonna upgrade

>>718150874
bitch is like 5'4
he can gymcel all wants, a manletoid will always be a manlet and I could step on him by accident

>>718198616
are you planning to buy a 5090

>>718141289
TMNT Turds in Time
Sonic 3 and Knuckles
MvC2

>>718198046
>You can easily build a better PC for 500 bucks by now.
that barely covers the gpu alone

>>718139840 (OP)
Thanks for the occasional Cum Town comment fellas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJs_2-AFCHY&ab_channel=SleepyBoys

>>718141289
Just fyi 20 years is 2005. I played Baldur's Gate 2, Megaman X3, and Stronghold Crusader

>>718141397
>spend 5 hours installing mods and plonking around with the graphics settings
This is the exact reason why I play on PC.

best clean setup:

>asus zenbook s 16
insanely good laptop with an integrated graphics card. fyi discreet GPU laptops are pretty much what give laptops a bad name: bulkier, louder, drains battery fast, very expensive, all because you have TWO CHIPS.
zenbook is light, quiet, best OLED monitor, light gaming, can perform for hours on battery. fairly well priced (~$1200)
>PS5
literally everything is optimized for the PS5 despite being outdated so you are guaranteed to have a great experience always. (for example Fallen Feathers on performance mode runs like butter) and you can own your games physically.

literally the best of all worlds. why compromise yourself with a desktop because you want to be an ebin gamer.

>>718200546
Good morning.

>>718199842
He maxxed out on cruelty and verbal domination. He would make you sob if he wanted to

>>718143060
>game engines that load so much garbage that even a 4090 can't get consistent 60fps
>blames the third wolders with 10 year old hardware that are happy playing CS 1.6 and TF2
lol

>>718150874
>anon has naked men saved on his computer

>>718194337
>Are PCs not a staple household item anymore?
they absolutely are.
>I'd rather spend more on a PC
you mean spend TWICE as much.

you guys have to get it through your stubborn heads. A PC AND A GAMING PC ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. if anything most families have a fairly sensible laptop that covers 99% of the things you have to do.

>>718187604
This killed that dudes popularity