Thread 718142303

Recently discovered this genre.
Why is it so good?

also post your faves

wait dungeon crawler now called DRPG??

>>718142376
it wasn't before?

>>718142376
it's been called this for a while

>>718142303 (OP)
labyrinth of refrain and labyrinth of galleria

>>718142376
its called drpg back and forth since 2010, pop

>>718142376
Weebs called them drpgs since dawn of time while other people called them blobbers or dungeon crawlers. There is no single correct term because these games predate the consolidation of all culture into one homogenised stinking pile of shit.

Aside from Grimrock I think all the notable modern games in this genre are jap garbage.

i like wizardry 8

and by like i mean I liked the look of a video I once watched about wizardry 8. im scared to install as you have to install cheats to make it playable - dont wanna get vac ban

>>718142982
ha, get filtered faggot

>>718142553
>labyrinth of refrain
Game sucks ass.

>>718142890
Game?

>>718142303 (OP)
Exploring the unknown is the white man's burden

>>718142303 (OP)
Blobbers, as far as I know them. Such a fun genre. Legend of Grimrock 1/2 had the best setting and feeling for me, but I really dislike the square dancing you have to do.

>>718143373
kowloon high

drpg la mulana in a nutshell. took me 160hrs to beat, not for faint of heart.

>>718143373
Yes it is.

>>718143504
>>718143505
Looks Cool. I think someone mentioned this during the last steam sale.

>>718142376
it weeb term
the real name is bloobers

Been playing this DRPG for a while now. I played it when it released, but recently I travel a lot and ended up with a cracked PSPGo where I put the PSX version of it on. Hellfire doesn't exist for that version, but I've never played Hellfire. Is Hellfire worth it?

>>718143609
Theres these VN segments when your not in the dungeon that are kinda persona-y were you make friends while neglecting others due to time. Theres like 9 or more ways to respond to each question and I feel this part of the game is extremly well done and no two peoples social choices and friends they make will never bee the same. If you get stuck on a puzzle you might just have to dig your heels and figure it out as guides are spare. I actually uploaded the only full playthrough of it on youtube since its release

I'm having a nice time with wizardy variants daphne. I don't care that its gacha.

Is Mary Skelter: Nightmare any good?

>>718143657
>newer release
>2020
>look it up
>looks like something from 1999
>>718143862
i heard the shilling is unbearable in that game. people say the grind is just cancer if you don't paypig

>>718142376
Japanese first-person dungeon crawlers are called drpg, western ones are called blobbers.

>>718143890
yes, only flaw was it doesnt reward exploring. I dont think there was ever any killer loot in some forgotten corner of the floor your exploring

>>718142376
every game is called a "dungeon crawler" now so the term DRPG was created to refer to the genre formerly known as dungeon crawlers

>>718143862
I was super addicted to this and got all the way to the third dungeon (didn't spend a cent btw) but ended up ditching it because of how frustrating it felt to know nothing would ever move forward. Because its a gacha none of the story will ever be resolved, none of the characters can develop, there is never an "end". Part of the appeal of a dungeon crawler is getting to the end of the dungeon but this game just gave me perpetual blue balls. Some really good designs tho, I just wish it was more like the PS2 Wizardry games and not a gacha.

>>718143814
>I actually uploaded the only full playthrough of it on youtube since its release
Alright, I will your guide in mind, in case I get stuck. I hope the puzzles aren't too complicated or annoying.

>>718144071
>Because its a gacha none of the story will ever be resolved, none of the characters can develop, there is never an "end". Part of the appeal of a dungeon crawler is getting to the end of the dungeon but this game just gave me perpetual blue balls.
couldn't agree with this sentiment more.
what games do you recommend, anon? i'd love a dungeon crawler as good as variants daphne but with closure

>>718143862
>wizardy variants daphne
I really like how this game looks but I wish it was a single player game.

>newfags on /v/ discover the drpg genre
At least you get to play some good games for a change

>>718144163
isn't it?

>>718142303 (OP)
Currently playing Dungeon and Bride.

>>718144330
>isn't it?
I meant to say that it's gacha. Which turns me off.

>>718144119
Its a longplay so its not as user friendly a a guide. Youll have to seek and hunt down where your stuck. played it on Hard and everything 1-2 shots you. The 160hours it took me, playing it on normal probably couldve shaved off 1/3 of that playtime. Puzzles are reading Jap mythology and the games throws you a riddles where you gotta use the mythology lore + inventory items to figure out what to do. The lore was kinda hard to follow because all the jap folklore heroes have names that blur together after a while. Ame-no-hime, Hime-no-abe etc

>>718144330
it's a live service game. sort of like Early Access on steam with mtx and you need to be online to run it.

Is Kowloon High-School Chronicle any good?

>>718144273
>old man assumes they are playing the games
esl or just making assumptions for no reason

>>718144513
read the thread

>>718144138
Wizardry Tales of the Forsaken City [PS2] (plus Bushin 0 if you don't mind playing something in Japanese), The Dark Spire [NDS], Etrian series [NDS], Ruina: Fairytale of the Forgotten Ruins [PC], Potato Flowers in Full Bloom [PC],
Shining the Holy Ark [Saturn]

Enjoy bro

>>718143959
>it doesnt reward exploring.
Not entirely true. Upgrades to Jack's gun are found by exploring and they're impactful, even unlocking a new character and dungeon at max level. iirc character events tied to endings took place in the dungeon sometimes too. And there's gameplay benefits tied to prolonging stays in the dungeon with the roulette wheel and dungeon growth stuff, but obviously the loot rewards are always garbage like the 600th Ration or Sword you have but weaker.

Is Kowloon High-School Chronicle any good?

>>718144596
thanks let me just--
>all but one of the games are decades old
damn, this genre died harder than RTS

>>718142303 (OP)
wizardry 6-8
elminage
swords and sorcery underworld looking forward to sovereign
grimoire heralds of the winged exemplar because of how autistic the developer is

>>718143905
nah its fine
i mean you play wizardry - you expect to grind

>>718144741
potato flowers in full bloom has a pretty robust demo that'll give you a good 10-12 hours if you want to check that out first

>>718144163
like everyone
but it is how it is, you get gacha or nothing this days

>>718142303 (OP)
you play one you've played them all

>>718144741
ded genre

>>718143945
that is wrong tho
japanese specific set of dungeon crawlers is called drpg in nip
they are called bloobers(slang) in the west
dungeon crawlers is proper name

>>718144772
i liked it but it was on very forgiving side

>>718144910
Oh, Daphne is on steam? Thought it was mobile only. Any good for a gacha?

>daphne
>a real DPRG

for me it's wizardy 8

Anything similar to Grimrock?
Tried Starcrawlers but it doesn't have the same feeling to it.

>>718144382
Is it finished?

>>718145061
>grimrock
i thought you were supposed to be stuck in a tower

>>718145084
That's the second one where you are on an island.

>>718145071
Well... it's released? But we're currently on patch 1.20 in 13 days. So he's working hard on fixes, some of which introduce new issues.
Using Mods causes a LOT of crashes though.

>>718145131
Oh sorry, patch 1.22.
>>718145061
Operencia is a breddy good game, I got around 20 hours out of it too.

>>718144424
>>718144502
oh, okay.
yeah thats disgusting, thanks for the heads up

>>718145061
Tower of Mask just came out

>>718145003
>modern animation style + the limited movements of the older games like the hop forward
Very uncanny.

>>718145248
Yeah, it was on my list after demo. Might as well.

>>718145248
I just looked this up and was like "oh cool, yeah, standard blobber so far" until I saw this image lmao.

>>718145248
I don't know if I like that it has guns

>>718145367
>>718145368
that hivemind

>>718145293
old succ

>>718142772
i want ones with puzzle focus like in grimrock but japs hate puzzles and love grinding numbers autism instead so im never getting my fix.

>>718144910
>dungeon crawlers is proper name
Is it? Because it's generally (mis)used to describe anything dungeon-related regardless of gameplay style.

>>718145493
>puzzle focus
Have you played the Myst series?

>>718145532
>>718145532
>Is it? Because it's generally (mis)used to describe anything dungeon-related regardless of gameplay style.
that is the joke

>>718145001
It's good and you don't have to do any of the gacha shit to play the main story

>>718142376
Apparently. At first I thought DRPG means Dick RPG

>>718145628
>gacha
what in the fuck?

>>718145248
guy tackled a concept hard to attempt which is how to update square dancing combat. its a pretty good attempt too.

>>718145628
is the main story finished?
the other anon said it's like the other gachas, that they keep the ending open so that people continue to paypig

>>718145673
Yeah it was a dumb idea. Hopefully they turn it into a normal single player game and rerelease it because it's genuinely interesting and the gacha kind of failed

>>718144910
why does wizardry LoLS look like shit

>>718145750
>LoLS
??

>>718145708
It's not. I stopped playing after chapter 2 because new content wasn't out yet. I think chapter 3 is out jow

>>718145001
you need some korean shitty anti cheat on pc

>>718145786
labyrinth of lost souls, top left of the pic i replied to

>>718145708
>is the main story finished?
there suppose to 10 bosses in 10 abysses(~10 floors each) +final
3 are in the game +extra smaller dungeons

>>718145731
>>718145814
Adding gacha to an already niche genre filled with autists was already a questionable move. But
>korean shitty anti cheat

LOL

>>718145556
yeah but thats a different genre entirely. few games that i can recommend that was good at scratching this itch is
>Potato Flowers In Full Bloom
>Operencia
>Grimrock 2(the Livingrock collection of custom adventure maps)
>Tower of Mask

>>718145708
There are mini stories for every dungeon but the overall story (who is the masked adventurer, who is lulunarde, what is their connection, what is the wheel, etc) hasn't progressed at all since launch. And it doesn't matter how the stories of each dungeon resolve since characters keep coming back later, so Elmond of dying or etc.

>>718145876
i play on tablet
and gacha make real money, its hit between only demography that matter -nip salaryman

>>718145061
do that fucking autist's custom adventures. he made like 3 and they are honestly really fun. some puzzles are obtuse in the earlier ones(like whats firebombable) but he gets better by the third adventure.

>>718145880
>>Potato Flowers In Full Bloom
Haven't seen that one. Looks cute

>>718146250
very soulful. like passion project soulful.

>>718146250
It's pretty good.

Got my eyes on Tower of Mask and Kowloon, played Evening Starter. Any other games where I can cast Smith&Wesson? Looking for something where the firearms are an integral part, not just a variation on a caster/ranger class. Weapon types, attachments, specialty ammo, reloading and ammo management, targeting.
Honorable mention to Shadow Tower: Abyss.

>>718147170
Most of the SMT games feature firearms

>>718145750
budget PS3 game
it's not bad though

>>718145058
>custom characters but you pick personality presets for them and they're all really chatty
This is literally perfect.
I do not understand why more games haven't picked this up.

>>718147912
$

>>718147912
>they're all really chatty
should try gacha wizardry

>>718147912
Because personality presets really limit the characters that you can create in the game, you might as well just have full fledged characters with more interactions in the world. Having no voice lines except maybe the typical grunts/callouts leaves room for imagination to create anything in the narrative, whereas the preset option leaves you with only variations of a few predetermined archetypes. It can obviously work for some games, but it is a much more narrow option that will appeal to less people.

>>718148457
>ungh
>augh
>eugh
>"Yes, my dashing rogue has a wicked sense of humor, how could you tell?"
Straight up 100% LARP with zero in-game reinforcement. Might as well imagine playing the whole game while you're at it.

>>718148878
moron

>>718148947
nice to meet you, I'm Anon

>>718142303 (OP)
Surprised nobody brought up Undernauts, it’s quite a good one.

I want to make a DRPG. What would you guys like to see in one that would make it feel new and refreshing?

>>718142303 (OP)
>faves
starting with traditional turn-based crawlers:

>Might & Magic 4+5 World of Xeen
easily one of my top 5 dungeon crawlers (though you'll be doing a fair amount of crawling towns and world map too). Technically it's two games installed to the same directory, but you can just grab it the Might & Magic 1-6 collection from gog and it'll handle it for you
>Might & Magic 6-7-8
there's a mod for M&M8 that does it for 6,7, and 8 as well, though it's not quite as seamless
>Potato Flowers in Full Bloom
excellent for beginners and good fun for veterans, featuring a mildly tactical approach to combat and interesting dungeons
>Legend of Grimrock 1 and 2
semi-real time combat (in the vein of Eye of the Beholder or Dungeon Master) that may be hit or miss depending on what you want out of the genre, but excellent dungeons with a strong emphasis on puzzle solving
>D&D Warriors of the Eternal Sun
get the WOTES V2 patch to fix a large number of problems
top down in the field and first person dungeon crawling in caves and dungeons. Based on the BECMI ruleset and set in Mystara's Hollow World, fans have even made a tabletop conversion of the campaign
>Shining The Holy Ark
an ambitious dungeon crawler for the Sega Saturn set in the Shining Force universe. Does a lot of things that wouldn't be done again in the genre for more than a decade. A bit story heavy as the genre goes, not that that's a bad thing as it leads directly to the start of Shining Force III
>Buck Rogers XXVC: Countdown to Doomsday and Matrix Cubed
pic fucking rel
you're not playing as Buck but you will run into him. Lorraine Williams may have been doing her best to tank TSR but Mike Pondsmith wrote the XXVC setting and the video games based on it are pure unadulterated awesome
both the PC and Genesis version are worth playing, with the Genesis being more of a top-down game while PC is a classic dungeon crawler

Does Fight Knight fall under this category? Exploration involves dungeon crawling but the combat is real time. Really enjoyed that one.

>>718148878
Okay, and the alternative is every rogue sounding like the same character whether they're a 4ft dwarf or 7ft elf. Either you write hundreds of different character types along with tens of thousands of responses, or you settle for a small selection of archetypes with maybe a female or male option for each class if you're lucky.

>>718142303 (OP)
>>718149227
now for some real time:

>King's Field
>Shadow Tower
>Eternal Ring
it's often seen as a hipster or contrarian opinion, but I honestly prefer Fromsoft's classic first person hack and slashers to the Souls formula
slow and methodical, take your time and manage your resources in these varied flavors of dark fantasy
>Space Griffon VF-9
now here's a neat one. Imagine King's Field but you're in a stompy mecha exploring a space station. Strong biomechanical horror theme
>Stonekeep
grid-based but combat is real time and you strike where you aim your mouse
many who've played the early game think of it as a single character RPG, but you get party members later

>>718149410
Wiz 8 has 32 personality presets and they're not class stereotyped, they're built around a personality trait and can be applied universally. Cunning, kind, eccentric, loner, brooding, short-fused, that sort of thing. There's 9 traits with two different line packs each, times two genders. Each pack is a 100 something voice clips.
Given your party size is six customs, that's plenty to have your six rogues be whoever you want and all different. It just takes effort on the dev's part.

>>718149179
find a way to give the feel of one, with traps and the environment and all that, but somehow make it rollslop. bonus points if it's procgen and permadeath

>>718149179
Every time I play one of these games I daydream about what kind of classes I want to play. I just want cool new classes.

>>718142303 (OP)
The fuck is a DRPG

Its a blobber/dungeon crawler my guy, and its been thing since 80s

>>718149179
arabic fantasy setting

>>718150309
it's been called drpg in japan since 80s and the genre is dead in west while barely alive in japan.

>>718149626
>King's Field
blud that game is older than your grandfather, ain't nobody playing a 3d game with playstation 1 controls

>>718142553
labyrinth of galleria had well written characters/story, the procedural generation portions sucked, some parts were kinda edgy or downright cruel. But overall it was fun

>>718150685
>burned out right as I hit Grand Cathedral
sorry Eurie but no good end for you

>>718142772
Tower of Mask. It's by a nihonjin, but there is no weeb shit in the slightest.

>>718150568
>blud that game is older than your grandfather, ain't nobody playing a 3d game with playstation 1 controls
I beat all 4 PS1 KF games (including Pilot Style), what's your problem?
if you must, use your emulator to set up the right stick to control up/down/left/right turning and the left stick to walk/strafe

>>718150924
>I beat all 4 PS1 KF games
said nobody

>>718144958
most modern gaymers don't like games on the punishingly difficult side, which would rule out most DRPGs

>>718145061
As >>718146045 said, check out Adrageron's mods on Steam Workshop. It gets better with each newer mod and arguably a legit sequel in its own right. Lost City has no new mechanics, but the other two have.

>>718142303 (OP)
I tried playing this and while i enjoy playing it i'm too invested in my character and they specifically mention no to invested or had emotional ties with characters and when my char dies and i don't have enough money for resurrection i was really sad and devastated

>>718147170
Tower of Mask gun is just a strong weapon with very limited ammo for you to deal with super tough situations (which IMO there aren't, even on hard), like Resident Evil's Magnum or Doom's BFG. It's a melee type of game.

>>718142376
I do actually appreciate the Japanese term of ”ダンジョンRPG”
since many devs on both sides still don't discern between ローグライク と ローグライト、 ”RPG”の接尾詞が真のローグライクを示しています
(”不思議◯ダンジョン”も商標名だったと気がする)

>>718151878
>(”不思議◯ダンジョン”も商標名だったと気がする)
right you are; Fushigi no Dungeon is a franchise, not a genre. It's first entry was Torneko's Mystery Dungeon in 1993
the gameplay template seems to originate in 1991's Fatal Labyrinth (Genesis/Mega Drive) and Dragon Crystal (Master System)

>>718151878
>>718152420
what do you call games that are ripoffs of the "mystery dungeon" series but made by different devs? roguelite is obviously not specific enough to be useful

>>718152676
traditional roguelike

>When I start playing a blobber and there's no music, just ambient sound as I wander around the dungeon
Etrian Odyssey has spoiled me.

>>718151240
yea it's pretty hard to get KF4 to boot on PS1

>>718152703
but I've been told that shiren isn't a true roguelike

>>718152676
Izuna

>>718152762
KF3: Pilot Style is a separate game from KF3, it serves as a short prelude to 3's plot
as such there are technically 4 KF games on PS1

>>718152676
... you call them Mystery Dungeon.
People these days think it's wrong to name a game gerne after a defining game, but don't realize "Adventure", one of the main pillars of game genres is literally named after the game Adventure

>>718152976
>but don't realize "Adventure", one of the main pillars of game genres is literally named after the game Adventure
which is funny, because Adventure was in the action-adventure subgenre

>>718152835
>i'v been told that shiren isn't a true roguelike
according to the berlin interpretation? no.
luckily, berlin trannies can go neck themselves.

>>718152892
why is she unemployed.
did she get fired for sexual harassment

>>718153167
her ninja clan was exiled from their home or something

In dungeon travelers 1 I have all five of the kaguya's request items but none of the requests for them have shown up even though I've done most of the max rank requests now. Anyone know what could cause that?

>>718151368
>>718146045
huh, never knew about them. Are his mods for Grimrock 1 or 2?

>>718142303 (OP)
Wizardry 5 and 7 (1, 4 and 8 are cool too)
Etrian Odyssey V

Any good dungeon crawlers in the past 10 years that dont have me moving from tile to tile like a fucking retard?

Looks cool but will it play cool ?

>gf bought limited editions of all the compile heart gooner drpgs for her switch
>doesn’t even like most vidya, just these and jrpgs
what should i get her, drpg experts? it has to be on the switch, she only plays that and mobile games

>>718146250
unironically sovlful indie game

>>718154164
you might enjoy Lunacid or Monomyth

>DRPG
When did we stop saying "dungeon crawler" and "blobber". and start using this meme name instead?

>>718142303 (OP)
holy sloppa artwork

>>718154448
>zoomer never saw generic digital art before

>>718152739
I'd rather they just put in ambient sound than to try and put in music which is ass

>>718154285
Class of Heroes 1 and 2
animu dungeon crawling on the surface but one of the original creators of Wizardry is involved

>>718154285
Get her a Steam Deck so she can play the PC-exclusive DRPGs

>>718143657
Wizardry Labyrinth of Lost Souls looks like an rpg maker game.

>>718154448
This game is from the era prior to AI art becoming "passable"

>>718152676
Shiren clones.

>>718154386
sometime in the 80s. memory hazy on the exact day

>modern remake never
>it's only the original phone version and the DS port
Pain.

>>718154901
kinda insane how they went from that to daphne in three years

>>718149626
>>King's Field
waiting for the remaster

>>718154448
>modern /v/ audience doesn't know what generic fantasy art looks like
>modern /v/ audience doesn't know what generic "Jap artist trying to imitate Western fantasy artists" art looks like

>>718154386
Blobber has always been a shitty term

>>718149626
got anything that isn't older than my dad?

>>718143862
great game

>>718155553
>old = bad
you're into the wrong fucking genre

>>718154363
Both look pretty gud. thanks frendo

>>718155381
its never been a term, i only heard it like 3-4 months ago in a thread here
please enlighten us how the term even remotely describes a dungeon crawler when we already had the terms "dungeon crawler" and "DRPG" which is what has been used since the late 90's

steam retards have used the term dungeon crawler for so many wrong games its shows how many casuals are into gaming now and dont even know proper terms or genres

>>718155759
uh it's because uh... you all kinda move together? you know, like a blob would?

>>718155759
the blob in blobber refers to how your party is essentially moving as a single amalgamated unity
no, it's not a good term, especially as there are turn-based grid-based dungeon crawlers where you control only one person

>>718155759
extremely ironic post

>>718155759
>its never been a term, i only heard it like 3-4 months ago in a thread here
Zoomer detected.

Any drpg with a kino cast and story?

Soon™
I hope

>>718154915
it's a little crazy that ai art has gotten so good that it's on the level these low tier switch games were at in 2015

>>718156184
Shining The Holy Ark

>>718153784
i think he made one for grimrock 1, but its mostly on grimrock 2

>>718146250
>Create your own characters
>They all show up in the main menu hanging out doing various things before you head out

So what's the defining feature of these games that makes them different from other party based RPGs? The first person dungeon travelling?

>>718154363
warning to curb your enthusiasm, lunacid loses the "king field" guise pretty fast, and monomyth is still not complete with new content being by each new main map area.

>>718156620
>The first person dungeon travelling?
pretty much. The first person perspective encourages imagination and a sense of the unknown. In Final Fantasy you can see a chest through several walls, in Wizardry you don't know if it's a treasure or a monster just around the corner
also encourages mapmaking, even if the game tracks it internally

>>718142743
No one ever called them "blobbers".

>>718154262
these are the exact same thing

>>718142895
Don't think you can get vac banned for a single player game. It doesn't even phone home.

I cheat in single games all the time.

>>718154363
warning, Lunacid is a troon game with pronouns and made by a man who dresses like a female

>>718156620
>So what's the defining feature of these games
navigating a labyrinthine dungeon (in first person) (with 6 niggas in 2 rows)

>>718156620
>first person
Yes. This is where the term "blobber" comes from, your party moves like a single "blob".
>dungeon travelling
Some games also add overworld, such as later SirTech-era Wizardry and newer Might & Magic games, but yes.
One could argue grid-based movement is also required, but once again, newer Wizardry and Might & Magic.

>>718155759
"Blobber" is a shitty forced meme from RPGcodex, but it's one they've been trying to force since like approx 2010.

>>718157173
Objectively incorrect.

>>718156573
you have cute looking characters/names

>>718144071
Treat each dungeon as a single story, it works really well for Daphne.

>>718157173
>>718157330
might and magic games were called blobbers way back when but I don't think that term was used for wizardry and its offspring

>>718149227
man, I remember the first Buck Rogers game scaring the shit out of little me with that first mission spook.

>>718142303 (OP)
Why is there so many /vrpg/ schizo threads in the catalogue? You didn't just start playing this genre. You've been making this same exact thread for years. What's the point in wasting people's time by asking stupid questions?

>>718157305
>6 niggas
Hey, sometimes it's 3 (Lands of Lore), 4 (Grimrock, Strange Journey) or 5 (Etrian).

this drow is cute

>>718154262
What's up with those fucking dot-patterns on shadows?
One of the games on steamfest had samy stylization of shadows and draw distance and I really fucking hated it.

>>718142376
There isn't a single place other than this one that uses it, it's just one extremely mentally ill guy

>>718157462
your leg itches

>>718157626
Obviously meant to emulate the black-and-white style used for art in early tabletop RPG books, or at least the modern idea of what that style was.

>>718154262
i will have to pass if the whole game is this fucking bright goddamn

>>718142303 (OP)
>Recently discovered this genre
No you didnt. Post the games you played on steam this week. I bet you haven't played even a single video game. This screenshot isn't even yours.

>>718157626
That's a screentone

>>718157873
Yes. And I really hate how it's implemented.

>>718157854
>This screenshot isn't even yours.
Damn there are 5 different RPG threads like this. What the hell is going on? Are we being raided?

>>718157590
actually, Etrian has a sixth nigga
it's you, the player, mapping out the dungeon and leading your team

>>718157854
>first image result on Google
>yep good enough time to make the same threads I've made every single day for the last six months
Feels like half the board traffic is a single pajeet.

>>718142895
This is one of the most “12 year-old” posts I’ve ever seen on this site.

>>718157626
it's called stippling

>>718157854
Grim.

>>718158020
By that logic, "6 niggas" is actually 7.

>>718157606
I don't have the webm handy but she waves to you in the main dungeon if you spot her in the distance

>>718158071
Why are you replying to yourself? 8 is a child's game. You aren't some ebin boomer for playing it. Stop making these awful threads and go play a real video game.

>>718157545
holy schizo lmao

yes surely it must be *checks notes* a deranged multi-year campaign by schizos from another board.
might i propose, my mentally unwell friend, that this image is the result of searching for the term DRPG rather than an organized conspiracy of lies by... nefarious crazies from /vrpg/?

>>718142895
I probably saw the same video, but I did play it and it became one of my favorite games. Give it a try, but you absolutely need the speed hack and the game will stomp your balls but after a while you’ll love it more than anything.

>>718157379
Thanks. I always free associate names with my character appearances and it works pretty well

>>718158259
Stop shitting up the catalogue. You don't play ANY video game.

>>718157626
>>718157873
it's how you did shades of gray on printers that only print black and white.

>>718157545
The /vrpg/ mod is an unhinged gaslighting nigger. That's why. He killed his whole board so now he has to come here and pull the same bullshit.

>>718158387
I don't think it looks very good though since it's all weirdly angled. It should be a static screentone pattern like how textures were used in Chowder or Tiny Plaid Ninjas

>>718158373
>everything i imagine is real
>this is all a conspiracy
>by guys from a board nobody has heard of
>they don't even play games
>despite both this and that board being about games
>and it's been going on for YEARS now
wake up sheeple!!!

>>718158130
yeah i saw it right before taking that screenshot, but i wasn't recording. i don't know how to make her do it again.
i'm a bit torn on this game. it seems like it would be comfy af on deck but i want to play some mkb today

>>718158095
rock

>>718158536
>i don't know how to make her do it again.
I don't think you can in the tutorial but in the main dungeon she'll do it every time you enter or go down an elevator

>>718158536
You've been posting this shitty game for ages. It may as well be an avatar at this point.

>>718158536
>i don't know how to make her do it again
go deeper into the dungeon and come back. She waves to attract your attention to the exit

>>718158656
He doesn't play any games. It's about occupying catalogue space.

>>718157854
Man this shit is weird as fuck. It's like the thread is an AI chatting with itself.

>the rare thread where /v/ actually talks about vidya games
>it must be AI

>>718158373
I don't understand why it's so hard to post actual pictures of the game you're playing. I make webms and stuff all the time.

>>718158730
That's not the same image anon

>>718142890
MORE BLOOM
MY PIXELSHIT RPG DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH BLOOM
I'M GONNA BLOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>718158997
Sadly this guy has been at this for a very long while. On /vrpg/ he got caught posting a screenshot of a youtube video because he accidentally left the playback bar in. He doesn't actually play anything.

>>718143657
Why are they called blobbers? Where's that coming from

>>718159062
This game is from long long loooong before anyone even knew what Bloom was.

>>718154262
This looks like it will be really tiring on the eyes

>>718159123
They're just called dungeon crawlers. No one calls them blobbers or DRPGs and I'd avoid anyone using the term DRPG like the plague because it's just gunna be some retard exclusively playing amoeba brained asset flip kusoge.

>>718159246
I've always called them dungeon crawlers myself, I was just curious about the etymology of the term blobber, legit never heard that word before this thread

>>718159047
sshhh, just watch for now. let xim cook

I call them blobbers for the sole purpose of giving weebs and newfags aneurysms.

>>718159123
Blobbers is an old as shit term for games where you don't actually see your party on screen so they're just an abstract "blob" with portraits and skills walking around

>>718159123
Because your party moves together like a blob.

>>718159246
>No one calls them blobbers
Incorrect.

>>718142303 (OP)
what kind of smt sj knock off is this?

>>718159302
It was coined by usenet and later adopted on rpg codex, then popularized by people like felipepe. This is a very bad thread with very boring discussion. Please do not bump it or I will not reply to you.

To offset people posting random screenshots from google, I played the game in OP for 30ish hours. I think I got like 3/4 through the game maybe even further. it's okay. I didn't finish it because I lost interest once the combat became stun spam auto battler.

>>718159123
Western fans upset over the animefication of the genre came up with it to classify their "true western looking hardcore dungeon crawlers for hardcore gamers such as themselves".
The term is unironically like 30+ years old at this point.

>>718155759
>used the term dungeon crawler for so many wrong games
Maybe because it's a very vague general term and you latched onto some narrow interpretation. Darkest Dungeon and Ultima Underworld are dungeon crawlers, no matter how you slice it, but they has very little to do with wizardry.

>>718159518
I felt very ripped off trying out sword city. People who play experience shit are literally nuts, you really have to be scraping the barrel at that point.

>>718159620
>Darkest Dungeon and Ultima Underworld are dungeon crawlers, no matter how you slice it, but they has very little to do with wizardry.
The only difference between Ultima and Wizardry is the perspective. If you like one and not the other you're mentally addled. And no one is calling Darkest Dungeon a dungeon crawler.

>>718159532
Anon, anime games weren't even translated to English back then. If anything Wizardry being translated to Japanese influenced anime more than the other way around

>>718159805
There's COUNTLESS of anime styled Wizardry games from the 90s anon. Countless.

>>718159865
Yes, due to Wizardry being translated in the 80s which is when the term Blobbler was coined

>>718143657
Grimrock is "grid dancer" dungeon crawler

>>718159123
>Why are they called blobbers?
it's because there was an atari game like this, based off the film The Blob. At least that's where the western term came from. Japs have always called them DRPG

>>718159684
the divinity system is interesting at least for a moment. but even that just boils down to "use this giga ability every few turns to not die"

>>718159865
>There's COUNTLESS of anime styled Wizardry games from the 90s anon. Countless.
sure thing buddy, name just three (3) then

>>718159684
A lot of jap crawlers are irredeemably dogshit and the few decent ones don't get translated. The only ones that make it to the west are kusoge churned out on a treadmill.

>>718144596
>Bushin 0
How come no one ever bothored to translate this?

>>718142303 (OP)
I really prefer the turn based ones

Recommend me dome goodness

>>718159865
And when, pray tell, did we actually start getting Japanese dungeon crawlers in the West? If you disregard a couple of odd cases on PS1 and PS2, the influx started only in 2010s, after the term "blobbers" was already invented.

>>718160101
I was offended by the lazy map design and generic hub area pretty much immediately and am very salty I could not get a refund. Never again will I buy one of these Japanese crawlers.

>>718144896
What's this?

>>718142303 (OP)
To this day I still can't find a game that matches the vibes of this one.

>>718160234
I feel like the vast majority are turn based. Touhou Artificial Dream in Arcadia was the last great one I played. It's a blatant SMT ripoff but it does it well

>>718158656
How is that possible, when i only learned about the game today, here >>718144772 ?
Wait. Could it be another conspiracy? Am i being unknowningly controlled by the SHADOW MODERATORS from reverse 4chan? Is this all a plot from *checks notes* /vrpg/ schizos who do not play games? No, my dark soul shudders at the thought - my evil eye burns with the crimson flames of a thousand dying stars! You cannot defeat my [sic] schizo powers, and you will never comprehend the abyss that dwells in the land that is /vrpg/ but actually /v/ but somehow no games! Only I, the Shadowlord, Harbinger of Eternal Night, the
supreme OP of the nightmare requiem can ever break the containment of the seven board seals!

>>718159684
My main problem with them is that a lot of their games are samey. I got really sick of the whole Concentrate into 3-5-7 attack combo a lot of these games have, and it's not even something exclusive to them. That shit exists in Demon Gaze and Class of Heroes also, I really don't get this sick obsession with Fighters having that shit, and then the samurais have row attacks and so on. The other thing with Experience was the whole aspect of grind rooms and grind gems, use this item to get an encounter so enemies drop specific gear. Undernauts was probably the best game I played from them, and even though I somewhat enjoyed it, I wouldn't call it remotely good.

>>718160710
ok you made your point, don't need to belabor the point

>>718160601
It's literally just a really dumbed down version of Wizardry with quirky music.

>>718158656
>only one person has ever talked about potato game on 4chan
Holy fucking newfag nigger.

>>718144772
There's no way the demo is 10 hours. I beat the main game in just 18

>>718160601
>no modern remake, and it's expensive on eBay
>it's either piracy, or forking over close to 100 dollars minimum
But we've got to keep on shitting out new Persona games, am I right?

>>718160730
>My main problem with them is that a lot of their games are samey
All of these Japanese dungeon crawlers are just copy pasted. Even that NIS game is just walking around a cereal box maze with a stat stick buzz saw. Even EO is severely overrated. They aren't worth playing at all unfortunately.

>>718149179
A party of characters you make yourself from scratch but also have story and personality behind them through means such as picking a starting point for them and having their characters branch into story/personality nodes as things occur with a certain degree of player steering allowed.

>>718160787
you're no fun

play dungeon and bride if you play bad you get cucked

>>718157590
sometimes 15 but groups of 3 sharing a turn/action so it's ultimately still 5 in the end

>>718155123
>kinda insane how they went from that to daphne in three years
that article is misleading, it came out as a 2009 ps3 game originally
it even has an untranslated sequel

>>718160157
the script has been translated. it's a hurdle to fit english into the text boxes so no one bothers. the game is really good though.

>>718149179
Dungeon ecology

>>718156078
sorry to break it to you but ive been here since 2006 and been gaming for over 35 years so seeing a term that ive never heard once till this year shows its completely new and being forced

zoom zoom faggot

>>718155759
>>718161453
What a newfag. I bet this is the "nobody has talked about potato game on 4chan" newfag.

>>718159763
>no one is calling Darkest Dungeon a dungeon crawler
It's a game you crawl through dungeons. It even has dungeon in it's name.

>>718145367
>>718145368
Guns are rare items with extremely limited ammo.

>>718161453
>ive been here since 2006 and been gaming for over 35 years

>>718159763
>And no one is calling Darkest Dungeon a dungeon crawler.
darkest dungeon is a dungeon crawler. you can quote me on this.

>>718161453
You have to be 18 or older to post here
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/recommend-me-a-wizardry-ripoff.22919/

>>718160986
As much as I think the combat in the Labyrinth games is poorly implemented, it's at least unique enough as a game where I'm okay with it as a whole. I don't need every game to be a masterpiece, but the main thing that turns me off of some of them is strict adherence to certain traditions. Have to reroll for stats because Wizardry did it. Fighters have to have this specific skill and knights have to have that specific skill because other DRPGs did it.

>>718149179
class autism
like I want kingmaker+CotW level choice autism

>>718155921
>>718155889
that would describe every rpg ever then since all you ever see on screen is one character when you have a team of many (rarely are they ever trailing behind you)

>>718161453
Remember: anyone who has to counter an argument with
>No really, I am old, I have been here for a long time, seriously
is trying to mask that they are probably just underage.

>>718160986
>Even that NIS game is just walking around a cereal box maze with a stat stick buzz saw
well at least the labyrinth games have few unique mechanics like breaking walls. these jap crawlers can be pretty bland but if they have even one unique feature to make them distinct then I consider it to be a decent game worth playing. same thing with mary skelter, teetering between mediocre and shit but the nightmares is an interesting mechanic.

>>718161453
The first time I saw the term was 10 years ago when reading about Legend of Grimrock. What you did or did not see is entirely a (You) problem.

>>718161795
He immediately started spamming "-oom" buzzwords of course he's a newfag nigger.

>>718161773
Blobby Hill

>>718161725
>I don't need every game to be a masterpiece
You're still overselling it, 2/10 is an extremely generous assessment for this game.

>>718161453
It's really really old, like pre easily accessible internet old.
These games are just as far removed from the modern mainstream as you can get, so unless you are into them and discussing them it's not that outlandish you wouldn't ever have heard it.

>>718161871
heh

>>718158387
I know. It's still used in some physical manga/comics still.
But it's the implementation. I absolute fucking hate these flickering textures when you move.

>>718161892
seeing as i played dungeon crawlers on a comadore 64 im more knowledgeable then anyone else here

>>718161880
I'd give it a 5, maybe a 6 if I was feeling generous. But maybe I'm too forgiving because the only one I've ever played that I'd actively give a 1 or 2 is shit like MeiQ on the Vita.

the superior way to play dungeon crawlers is through an ai chatbot

I played Legends of Amberland I recently. That was neat.

>>718162315
why do you have so many dwarves
elves are better

>>718161773
this dude haven't seen a crpg in his life
one of the common differences between 4 niggas in a row and 6 niggas in a blob is that front line/back line positioning matters
another is perspective, you aren't looking at abstracted representation of the party from afar, you are moving and looking around as a singular entity

>>718162420
>knife-ear lover
Opinion discarded.

Only true anons can list their top 100 dungeon crawlers without mentioning wizardry.

>>718162420
Slightly min-maxy. Dwarf warriors are strong.

>>718162541
newfag detected

when are they porting other elminage games?

>>718162315
>7 niggas
Is there any game that actually goes even higher? I mean, aside from >>718161306 which is effectively just 5.

>>718162541
How about you stop shoveling globs of shit straight out of the toilet down your gullet for once

>>718161306
Yeah I was gonna say Labyrinth of Refrain (your quote, right?) has you commanding squads of like 15+ but still places into groups so you've got 5 or so total.

>>718162664
yea, wizardry

>>718162663
>Ghostlight
I wouldn't count on anything.

>>718162664
>>718162756
standard attacks are still taken by each individual unit, only spells/items take the full squad turn.

>>718162590
>>718162740
So you can't?

>>718161819
Nah this is bullshit, it's okay to watch a schlocky movie once in a while, but someone who watches nothing but schlock is an annoying idiot, and clearly the people "playing" these games are gorging themselves on them.

>>718162541
>>718162923
Epic shitstirring and low-quality post on the 4chan.org/videogame website :DDDD

>>718142303 (OP)
I like the Etrian Odyssey series and Wizardry Daphne. I've tried a lot of the experience inc games and hated every single one. There's also the Elminage series which I get bored with after a few dozen hours and have never finished but its alright. Tried Wizardry 8 and didnt like it, I started Wiz 6 (Famicom version) and was enjoying it for a while but got stuck and stopped playing

>>718162781
>thought that was was 6
>apparently, it really is 8
I assume the top 2 slots are for characters that can join you after character creation? I remember that's how you jumped from 4 to 6 in Eye of the Beholder.

>>718162972
>I started Wiz 6 (Famicom version) and was enjoying it for a while but got stuck and stopped playing
Wiz is balanced for college students, EO is kind of for little kids. So if you've been subjecting yourself to brainrot for years you have to learn how to put in effort. The brain is like a muscle, and like a muscle, exercising it is hard at first but enjoyable over time.

Has anyone played pic related or its sequel? In regards to the first I've heard the puzzles suck the life out of the game which has made me wary of it. Not really a fan of puzzles in a dungeon crawler.

>>718159684
Yeah sword city has a lot of good quality of life mechanics but the dungeons, combat, and character building mechanics are all subpar

>>718162969
Man I've already played all the classics. am I supposed to replay them forever? What's wrong with entertaining myself with mediocrity? I'd argue you wont know the good games until you've tried the bad ones.

>>718163354
Play wizardry apple ii mods.

>>718142376
The term "Dungeon crawler" has somehow even less meaning than roguelite and immersion sim.
On par with "action adventure" if people still used it.
>>718144736
Yes. Use a guide or not, it has a lot of shit you will be mad for missing.

are dungeon crawlers role playing games?

>>718163496
>it has a lot of shit you will be mad for missing.
oh that's disappointing, will probably give it a pass then

>>718163615
I mean it has a lot of dialogue and routes. Think about those VNs with gameplay, but with ACTUAL gameplay.

>>718163580
Yes. A sub-genre of RPGs, if you want to be precise, just like action RPGs (Diablo and such).

>>718163580
they're like table top campaigns with an autistic combat obsessed DM. and you make 6 characters and roleplay all of them simultaneously.

>>718160850
>really dumbed down version of Wizardry
I can't see how The Dark Spire is dumbed down from Wizardry at all. I'd call it a clone with nice aesthetics

>>718163354
You're supposed to move on to other genres instead digging through trash cans for scraps. Is this post even real? Good lord. You aren't going to stumble onto a "le hidden gem".

Grinding Etrian 1 until I get bored and then I am going to play Nevergrind Online. Etrian is okay, but I did not like the mapping thing you had to do to get into the first dungeon.

>>718163932
I fucking hate you.

>>718163932
1 or Untold 1?

>>718163914
You cant tell me what to do. anyway I'm gonna go back to playing wizardry dimguil for playstation. sweet sweet mediocrity.

>>718144382
Uncensored?

>>718144382
>bras and panties are their own item categories
Not sure if based or cringe.

>>718144382
translated? uncensored?
can you h girls or just get cucked

>>718162664
Not a dungeon crawler but the new Octopath game is gonna be like 40 niggas in a row

>>718142303 (OP)
I really love this game and spent hours and hours grinding the hell out of it

>>718161773
nah it was in contrast to games that let you control your characters separately like Baldur's Gate

>>718164535
those guys are NOT in a row

>>718164665
6 niggas on a 2 dimensional plane

>>718142303 (OP)
these games have usually tons of cool monsters, or cute girls or whatever, a lot of playable characters, good stories, etc. unfortunately i cannot stand not seeing my characters(same reason i did not play any etrian or that one recent cool dragon quest monsters game). too bad. the only game that didn't do it that i played was ray gigant and that looked really good for a psvita game.

>>718164886
>unfortunately i cannot stand not seeing my characters
you can see your characters on the bottom of your screen at all times though!

>>718163313
its one of the few that focuses on puzzles cause it just lifts most of them from grimrock. in the same vein, the puzzles arent very unique cause it lifts it straight from grimrock. guy also really likes bioshock.

>>718164886
>School Days starts playing

>>718164997
you know it's not the same thing

>>718164886
>i cannot stand not seeing my characters
I felt like that when I was younger, but now I prefer 1st person RPGs, maybe due to how quick paced they usually are. I also like guys in a row. What I can't stand is managing party movement, no matter if it's turn based or real-time

>>718164846
>get the pancor
>become a wave of destruction
game really makes that final tier of weapons feel powerful

>>718165150
I'm fine seeing their splash art when it's their turn and animations being barebones. It would have made no difference to me if Etrian never went 3D.

>>718142303 (OP)
RPGs have to be the gayest most casual genre. They're like the polar opposite of gatekeeping.

NEURO TOWER NIGGAS

>>718142303 (OP)
Zanki Zero is my newest fave, Throne of Chaos my all-time favorite.

>>718151510
I like Stranger of Sword City because it's one of the few DRPGs that kinda encourage you to make more than a starting A-List squad. And rotate in and maintain B-team and even C-team members. So you actually feel like more of an actual "guild".

>lethality of mobs, bosses and minibosses are generally quite high
>weapon drops are abundant and randomly generated so you usually have reasonably level-appropriate gear to spare pretty much all the time (not necessary to shuffle shit around every time you swap someone out)
>recovery period between KOs (neccessasry to avoid permadeath) is really long so unless you wanna walk back and forth on the spot for hours every time someone gets knocked out, you should probably just rotate in another member of a similar role and keep exploring/progressing

But I can't stand the back half of the game where they constantly keep sealing your spells and skills for entire dungeons.

>>718164846
is this w3

>>718165150
>huge greatsword
>heavy iron shield
>somehow wearing a track suit
>no head protection

>>718165680
>I can't stand the back half of the game
filtered
filtered
you are all filtered
none of you have skill

>>718151510
Just play Saviors of Sapphire wings then, same devs, put a set party with actual characters that you revive when you go back to the base.

any of yous guys played VAPORUM
https://store.steampowered.com/app/629690/Vaporum/
looks great like legend of grim rock only with steam

>>718165680
Mistover was pretty good about this.

>>718164485
Original release or Revisited?
I've read that Revisited streamlined the game and you don't have to grind for loot in those specific spots that were in the original.

>>718165150
I don't really see how seeing the back of the characters elevates the game. I really like the combat view in rance 6 though.

>>718165150
You're right. It's the only reason why people enjoy Variant Daphne, or are disappointed by it being a gacha, me included. Turn that game into a JPEG spreadsheet like every other DRPG and no one would give a single shit, and I say that as someone who isn't bothered by JPEGs.

>>718166165
it's about time that someone posted a good fucking game

>>718165680
>I like Stranger of Sword City because it's one of the few DRPGs that kinda encourage you to make more than a starting A-List squad. And rotate in and maintain B-team and even C-team members. So you actually feel like more of an actual "guild".
I hate it when games do that, I don't want to grind up new characters. The only game where I've found that tolerable is potato flowers where it takes like 3 battles to get a new guy caught up.

>>718166654
I know what you are

>>718166862
do you self-insert or something

>>718165864
i see gog has a sale on RIGHT NOW
i snagged vaporum and the dlc for less than 10 dinars

>>718142303 (OP)
Grimrock 1 and 2 are amazing games. They are action versions, so not turn based.

>>718143862
>gacha trash
kys

>>718164886
How do you feel about Phantasy Star style?

>>718165680
>one of the few DRPGs that kinda encourage you to make more than a starting A-List squad. And rotate in and maintain B-team and even C-team members
Kind of like Darkest Dungeon?

>>718167016
How retarded do you have to be to pay for that awful game

>>718167478
a mere slight retardation would be enough

>>718144910
>dungeon crawlers is proper name
To me, I've always specifically used DRPG for first person dungeon crawlers. Third person games have dungeons too but first person games is just a different kind of flavor and it makes it easy to differentiate between them.

>>718167478
>>718167532
very
what didnt you like about it?

>>718167431
not a dungeon crawling game

>>718168004
I just mean the party management aspect

>>718167328
it's fine. i think "BIG enemy gets hit by a lazy vfx" is bad so even just the back of the character attacking is good

>>718144071
Each thing is it's own thing. Daphne is not huge story wise it's no different than Forsaken Land in that sense. You should always treat live service as you had your fun if it goes bad and to only play if you like it.

>>718166891
>do you self-insert or something
What does that have to do with anything? I don't want to stop exploring dungeons for 5 hours to get a new level 1 character caught up to the team.

>>718168972
he's usually within 2 levels of the main party after a couple of fights

>>718142376
I almost never see anyone use blobber outside of Codex nowadays.

>>718153573
Do any of you anons know what triggers the request in Dungeon Travelers 1 for buddha's stone bowl and similar items?

>>718169142
Not in sword city, wizardry, etrian odyssey, or dungeon travelers. Most of the time you either have to have a big grinding session or you have to carry around a dead weight character who needs constant reviving, both of those suck

Best switch drpg's?

>>718169569
that sucks, anon. with the games i've played, there were a lot of xp items and xp boosting items, feeding a few of those and doing just a handful of random encounters was enough to get a new unit at least within the range where he was a little useful. of course it's hard to reach xp parity.
>>718170348
UO

>>718161453
Faggot

>>718165937
Original. I also have revisited and have about 80 hours in that too.

>>718171414
Which version is better?

>>718170780
My favorite approaches are labyrinth of touhou where even characters outside of your party get like 80% exp, and potato flowers where the exp boost for fighting overleveled enemies is so extreme that two trash mob fights is enough to bring a new level 1 up like two levels behind slightly your endgame main party.

>>718171569
It's almost the exact same game. I'll go with Revisited because of the new classes and easier gearing though.

>>718165864
Nice art
Horrendous progression that makes it so that everything levels with you.
The puzzles are annoying to do
I pirated it, played it for 3 hours and dropped it

It's just not very fun to play

>love drpg
>hate the wizardry system
>hate shitty low effort drpg
>have basically no games to play
Nice

>>718172790
>"drpg"
>hates actual dungeon crawlers, just wants to play casual grindan games
>is miserable
Good?

>>718157606
Is this Potato Flowers? How is it? I've had it wishlisted for a while but just never got around to it

>>718163313
I tried the first one looking for Grimrock fix and really hated it. Dropped it early. Without a squad or extensive customization, it just played like the world's clunkiest FPS.

>>718142303 (OP)
Going through a dangerous dungeon and struggling to survive is fun. For me it's having a guild to back to where we can rest, reorganize, and talk to others. It's something most regular RPGs don't have. I wish having an adventurer's guild was more common outside of this genre.

>>718142376
jarpigs call them drpgs cause they think putting letter in front of rpg sounds cool. if they use the term you can expect it to be a lame jap grinder where its just a series of jrpg battles so in a way its kind of a subgenre still

>>718163496
I can't believe these genre names are not literal explanations of the genre. What is even "action" supposed to mean? You do actions in every game!

>>718172790
Check out dungeon crawlers, you might like them better.

>>718160234
Strange Journey Redux.

>>718172790
Sakura Dungeon is pretty casual and fun.

>>718149179
I don't need it to be new and refreshing considering how lacking the genre has been for awhile
I want customization for party members and good level design if anything

>>718149179
Fat assed robots with guns. Whenever they shoot, play an animation of their synth flesh jiggling violently. Put a support class in the back line spraying coolant over their overheating frames.

What's the best way to play Wizardry and Might & Magic games on PC nowadays? I want to get into both franchises bros

I would probably love Grimrock if it wasn't doing its stupid real time gimmick

>>718172903
yeah i dont even know what to say
>>718174134
The thing nobody including me, all websites and especially steam tags dont know what a drpg or dungeon crawler is.
So looking up games is though. Finding good ones even harder.
I consider Etrian 3 very good. The rest of the eritans are mixed.
Potato Flowers was good.
Evening Starter was also good.
Wizardry has no story, classes are boring, upgrades are boring and its too bullshit. Its my opinion. Dont nuke my asshole ok?
>>718174591
I thought it was bad
Same with Dungeon Traveler

>>718149179
Classes nigga
I need a reason to switch characters too, which means easy XP for shitters
Customization is king, +1 damage boosts are worthless, people want to see passives that do something numbers can't do

>>718163496
I have never understood why people are so confused with the roguelike/roguelite thing. Roguelikes are clones of Rouge, roguelites are games that have core gameplay elements from Rogue but specifically have out-of-run progression.

>>718175542
>all websites and especially steam tags dont know what a drpg or dungeon crawler is.
try growing some pubic hair zoomie

>>718175891
Confused? Who the fuck is confused? What happens is that people don't care.

>>718175542
Just to add - i think
Demon Gaze and pretty much all Experience Inc. games are bad.
Mary Skelter is bad
SMT:SJ is mediocre
Undernauts was kinda nice but i dropped it for whatever reason.
>>718175954
Great input anon. Where am i supposed to get inspo huh? From mongo anons like you?
Not likely.

>>718176160
How about Labyrinth of Refrain and Galleria? They have great level design (up to a certain point) and stories, even if the battle gameplay is not the best

>try wizardry variants daphne so I can have a dungeon crawler on my phone
>starts good but after a while I realize everything is fucking washed out and gray, characters are really bland and colourless
completely dropped it after reaching lvl 20

>>718176485
Oh yeah played them both. Like them both. Im one of the few who liked 2 more than 1. Even the tower.

>>718142376
rizz cuck fr fr
Why even acknowledge their existence? You become part of the problem then.

I just started Shining the Holy Ark, and I really like the "cinematic" presentation, atmospheric environments (especially the towns) and the story focus. The downside is the battle system that's as simple as an NES RPG

>>718176160
I agree with most of your opinions on dungeon crawlers. I thought the dungeon travelers series was pretty good if you want a recommendation. Labyrinth of Touhou 1 and 2 have top shelf combat systems, but are explored from a 3rd person top down view and the dungeons themselves are generally bland.

>>718177015
I enjoyed Labyrinth of Touho 2 a lot on the hard difficulty for a good while, but then it started getting too difficult for me. I appreciate the build crafting it requires, but I don't have the patience for it. And normal mode is too easy

>>718176160
>much all Experience Inc. games are bad.
>Undernauts was kinda nice but i dropped it for whatever reason.
Fucking refrain fanboy too retarded to even remember what he wrote a second ago.

Experience is great and Spirit Hunter is amazing even if it's a visual novel

>>718177015
Played them both. Dont really like them because the start is too slow and on rails. When started opening up i was already bored.
Doesnt help that theres no actual dungeon. I usally dont mind barebone games in that regard but thats a big much.
I also liked Dungeon Town. But its a bit different ..
>>718177660
HUGE CHECKMATE
ALMOST AS HUGE YOUR FAGGOTRY

>>718175891
>Roguelikes are clones of Rouge
What the fuck is Rouge?

>>718178127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpLVuFYP72o

Easy question - Is grimoire a good drpg?

>>718178390
yea if you're really into wizardry7

>>718142890
I tried playing this but the first hour or so was a fucking VN and I couldn't care

>>718178625
I will now play your game.

>>718159062
>MY PIXELSHIT RPG
retarded zoomer faggot so mindbroken he can't recognize an actual old ass game when he sees one lmao
fucking tard

>>718178582
That is unfortunately a no for me.
So its another 500 post drpg thread without a single new game, except maybe this. >>718142890

I need to find more obscure shit. Prob gonna dive deeper into old hentai classics or other way older gams from the golden drpg days.

Does anyone remember the barely finished yuri etrian clone? What happened with that?
Also i should check the EA status of Path of the Abyss. That one was kinda interesting.

>>718175891
>Roguelikes are clones of Rouge, roguelites are games that have core gameplay elements from Rogue but specifically have out-of-run progression
Maybe it's because people use roguelike to refer to the latter all the time, but I don't know. It couldn't be that, I mean it's not like the poster child for Roguelites is called a Roguelike or anything.

>>718179174
Go really obscure and play an indie title like Makai Agito or Undead Darlings. I was gonna say Core Crossing too, but apparently that has been removed from the web mostly.

>I need to find more obscure shit.

How obscure are we talking?

>>718179174
>Path of the Abyss
Oh shit it released 2 month ago. Hope they added a shitload of stuff since the EA.

>>718142303 (OP)
das geisterschiff / der geisterturm / der geisterjager cool aesthetics and fairly unique gameplay(for a crawler)

>>718178075
>I also liked Dungeon Town. But its a bit different ..
I liked the emphasis on foreplay and seduction but thought the dungeon gameplay was really weak.
The dungeons do get pretty good in dungeon travelers, but as you say, they take a while to really take off, both in terms of combat and exploration

Post where you get info on really obscure drpg shit? Since this thread obviously won't deliver.

>>718179582
I still pull out dungeons of the unforgiven to replay once a year or so. It's not a good game but it's cheesy in a way I like. Like you can teleport super deep into the dungeon and one hit kill a monster way above your level with a big magic attack and gain 1000x the amount of exp you'd collected up to that point from one kill

>>718179969
>It's not a good game but it's cheesy in a way I like
based video games enjoyer

>>718145061
Vaporum
Don't even bother. It's awful and greatly overrated.

>>718179863
You have to put in the work and browse store pages like itch or steam for hours on end, plus save bookmarks and check back in to see if they're even alive.

>>718179582
Maybe obscure was the wrong word. I for example found Evening Starter last year and liked that a lot. Its unbalanced and the dungeons are meh but the setup was cool. It also had that 90s anime cool going.
Nice positive surprise.
But im gonna check that out.
>>718179839
>I liked the emphasis on foreplay and seduction but thought the dungeon gameplay was really weak
Yep wont argue that but the destruction was cool and the general fight concept was also cool. Also cute girls.
For dungeon travelers i really hated the classes. When you hit the final class it was so fucking early and they were so fucking boring. I was sure there had to be more like a secret class evolution or something but nope.
>>718180375
This also pray they are tagged right.

>>718142303 (OP)
mordor the depths of dejenol
demise rise of the ku'tan

Nothing makes me harder than filling out DRPG dungeon maps.

>>718142303 (OP)
Been playing cyclopian
its already, if a little simplistic

>>718179969
That's pretty fun too. I only ever played through it once. Much more difficult than Moraff's World, but it was fun nevertheless.

Anyone play Islands of the Caliph? The setting is unique looking

>>718154285
He will never be a woman

>>718179551
Thanks anon. Ill look into them.

Finished Aeon of Sands and Path of Abyss
Path of Abyss has a post game and I liked the game well enough so I am going to finish that too.

>>718181114
Did Path of Abyss ever get a proper translation?

>>718163093
Yeah, the extra two characters are recruitable companions. They're kinda pain in the but since you need to explore the entire world and most of them have at least one location they just won't enter.

Anyone has a decent folder of portraits for Grimrock 2?
I already got the old Diablo 3 ones and I can't be bothered to use AI to generate new ones.
Portraits have to be 128p x 128p.

>ctrl+f barony
>0 results of one of the best drpgs ever made and one of the few with co-op

>>718175373
Might & Magic 1's NES port is the best one
the rest are all best played on PC
Wizardry 1,2,3,4 and 5 have great PS1 versions
Wizardry 6 has a good SNES version
7 and 8 are best played on PC with a 20x gamespeed cheat engine table handy

These games are cool in theory, but the holy fuck, can they wear out your patience. Wizardry (2024) is an absolute snorefest and Grimrock holds the distinction of being the third square-dancer RPG of all time. Oh and it takes like 6 hours of playtime to level up.

>>718181271
the current translation is fine apart from a few issues

>>718182197
I bought it when it first came out in early access and the machine translation was really rough

heres one if you're looking for recommendations
its a shameless SMT clone made in some awful RPGmaker version that runs like shit
its alright though you'll probably tear your hair out if you're a minmaxer

>>718180971
Yes, though I haven't gotten very far in it yet.
It's honestly a bit too basic for me. The only interesting part is the inclusion of the five pillars of Islam as a gameplay mechanic (eg. praying on time gives you bonus stat points)..

>>718142303 (OP)
Because you can customize the portraits

>>718182797
Anon has a type.

>>718181851
>doesn't mention it's real-time because he knows it goes over really poorly when he does

POST YOUR ONE FAVOURITE DRPG YOU WANT OTHER ANONS TO PLAY NOW

>>718179257
steam tags are picked by retards and taking any of them seriously makes you retarded by extension.

>>718182859
yeah, slop

>>718183176
Legend of Grimrock II
>"b-but A-anon I played the g-game 24 times already!!"
DO IT

>>718181851
>>718182957
>first person multiplayer dungeon crawlers are a surprisingly untapped genre
Fucked up when you think about it. Dark and Darker had the potential to be big but the devs turned out to be actual clowns so that dream is dead.

>>718142303 (OP)
I enjoyed Mary Skelter 2. The first game's maps were bloated and had to be remade, the third game felt like it was trying too hard with the whole forced 3 parties thing.
2 struck the best balance and had the best story.

>>718183176
Etrian 3
I also just realised made in abyss would make a pretty good drpg.

>>718183176
ultima underworld

>>718182797
>>718182859
da boo di da boo type

>>718183535
>made in abyss would make a pretty good drpg.
MiA is literally the writer's EO OC Donut Steel adventure, he doesn't even hide it. He straight up explicitly says that AND asks you to play the games

"NINJAS could be here" he thought, "I've never been on this floor before. There could be NINJAS anywhere." The cool Dalto felt good against his bare chest. "I HATE NINJAS" he thought. KATINO reverberated his entire party, making them fall asleep even as the 50g healing potion circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of decapitation after reaching the prerequisites for Lord. "With a blue ribbon, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.

>>718183691
Interesting i didnt know that

>>718183176
Etrian 4
Grimrock 2

>>718183298
I've already beaten Grimrock 2, but gonna check out those mods one anon itt recommended

are weebs and zoomers really calling blobbers "DRPG" now?

>>718184840
weebs love to call things _RPG. it sounds cool to them

>>718184840
You're -oomer posting bro, same shit

>>718142890
The visual novel segments are PAINFUL

>>718183176
Chaos Strikes Back

>>718184840
It's one deranged spammer from /vrpg/

>>718185343
DRPG CRPG and dungeon crawler predate your time. I've never EVER heard the term blobber and it's beyond fucking retarded.

>>718184840
"Blobber" is one of the gayest genre names of all time. DRPG is 100x better

>>718185460
The term is mostly used on rpgcodex, a lot of their posters also post here

It’s always been drpg or dungeon crawler to me. Blobber is a gay reddit meme term.

>>718184840
Nobody uses that term. There's this rpg maker general on /vrpg/ and it's turned into this sort of retarded launchpad for raiding and shitting up other boards. Board needs to be deleted.

heh heh I got your mom to suck my blobber

RPGcodex trannies love splitting hairs like their dicks

A blobber where your party are 6 slimes of various elements forming a singular blob.

>>718186103
glad i'm not the only one that associates the term with a slime.

>>718184840
Its always been dungeon crawler what the fuck kind of meds are you on schizo

>>718184840
i call it dungeon crawler. i know blobber is used but just prefer not to restrict the genre's description to the method of party organization

>>718186154
Blobs are slimes, you're apparently the last person to make this association.

>>718186250
>>718186443
My favorite dungeon crawler is Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time.

>>718181851
barony is just a first person roguelike thoeverbeit

blobs...

>>718186837
I shouldn't stick my spear in there, however...

>>718167937
>Cheeseburg
!!!