Thread 718191815

https://www.techradar.com/gaming/playstation/after-concords-flop-sony-admits-its-live-service-plan-is -not-entirely-going-smoothly-but-says-it-will-continue-and-learn-from-its-mistakes

>During a recent Q&A session after the company's latest financial results (via VGC), one caller asked the panel of executives for an update on PlayStation's live-service strategy amid the delay of Marathon and following the shutdown of Concord.

>In response, Sony's chief financial officer Lin Tao said that she still believes in live-service games, despite recent negativity, explaining that other games like Helldivers 2 and Destiny 2 have managed to produce a steady revenue stream that didn't exist five years ago.

>"Last year Concord [shut down], and this year Marathon was postponed, so somewhat negative news has been coming out," said Tao (via an interpreter).

>"But if we look at the past five years, five years ago live service games were almost non-existent for PlayStation Studios. We [now] have Helldivers 2, MLB The Show, and Gran Turismo 7, and Bungie’s Destiny 2, so we have these four live services contributing to sales and profits in a stable manner."

>"So in terms of the transformation, it’s not entirely going smoothly, but from a longer-term perspective, if you look at the changes over five years, you see that there’s definitely been a change," Tao said.

Sony's chief financial officer being a woman explains a lot

>PlayStation will be a third-party company that focuses on live service slop
kek
can't think of a more deserved fate.

>>718191815 (OP)
As a vitafag I'm really fucking enjoying seeing the jewstation collapse even faster than I predicted it.
I expected them to show cracks by the PS6 and fall by the PS7 due to normalfag money inertia, seeing them collapse right now barely a console after the backstabbing of japan happened makes me happy to see SIE and the snoys that pushed for this suffer so much.
Senran died for your sins, but I get the last laugh niggers.

>>718191815 (OP)
The retardation is absolutely overwhelming.

>>718192059
As a PS fan since the start, once they announced the HQ was moving to California it was already over. You can literally just avoid any game made in the US in the past decade and you're good.

>>718191815 (OP)
>Not only are they getting rid of exclusives killing any reason to go to their brand going forward but they're also focusing on the thing no one wants and relies entirely on luck to succeed rather than lower budget brand new IPs they can make dozens of for the same price as one live service.

Based. Total sony bankruptcy

>>718191815 (OP)
>Helldivers 2 and Destiny 2
do people still play those?

>>718191815 (OP)
>I know! Let's stay the course despite it losing us billions of dollars and tons of marketshare!

>>718191815 (OP)
And this is why Nintendo will be allowed to get away fully scotfree with getting worse and worse.

>>718192657
this

the constant shower of shit that playstation has become since the ps5 era started has been one of the most entertaining things I've ever seen, hubris is a bitch

>>718191815 (OP)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GAMING BELONGS TO NINTENDO AND VALVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>Sony Japan handed control of Playstation over to California HQ because the PS3 didn't immediately beat the Xbox 360
>California turned Sony into a full-on third-party that's scouting developers to port PlayStation Studios games to goddamn NINTENDO, and Sony Japan hasn't lifted one fucking finger

>>718192194
spbp

>>718195986
Or you could just choose to not buy Nintendo products. Other than MAYBE Mario Kart there's nothing your kids care about on Nintendo anyway, so "my kids really want one" isn't the excuse it used to be.

This and Sony saying they’re going towards the more open, more multiplatform route just shows me they’re going to end up like Xbox. Thank God I bought the Switch 2 instead of the PS5. Fuck any console platform that throws its players under the bus

>>718198552
I haven't bought Nintendo hardware since a Switch in 2017, nor a Nintendo game since Super Smash Bros Ultimate in 2018. My nephew's been happy with the back catalog of games and consoles I've gradually introduced him to.

>sony is dea-
they will be fine, I mean they almost went an entire generation with pretty much zero notable exclusives and still a ton of money from that, normies will keep buying their default playstation console to play call of duty and latest AAA slop
xbox killed itself back in 2013 at that e3, they have no competition in the home console market
nintendo is not a real competitor, it's always behind in hardware, it won't run the latest AAA games like gta6 (only retards play multiplats on the switch as that is the absolutely worst way to experience them)

>>718200134
why are they going third party if they are so successful?

>>718198239
Like Microsoft, Sony is a corporation that only got into gaming to monopolize it. Sony and Microsoft going third party is gaming healing and returning to Nintendo and PC.

>>718200134
This is like saying Microsoft is fine because of Game Pass, clearly neither made enough money and hardware is on its way out for them both.

you guys are absolute clowns

>Steamies are the biggest Sony haters.
>Criticize Sony for chasing live service
>Steam's only exclusives are live service games.

>>718201323
Sounds like cope, all kneel to Nintendo and Valve

Can’t wait until tencent buys playstation off them

>>718191815 (OP)
Sony is basically trying to go out of business. Live service is dead and Sony is constantly beating the dead horse.

>>718191815 (OP)
>Sony to keep pushing forward with live service games despite failures
>pic
The Sony I cared is long gone. Let that Californian abomination die.

can't wait to see a ratchet & clank collection on a system that's actually good

>>718201323
.....anon, do you think the reason people play games on pc is for exclusives?

>>718191815 (OP)
Did someone ask the chink why they are hiring ppl to port shit to Xbox and Switch? Will PC get day and day releases?

>>718198787
This but PC

>>718202262
can you play dota or CS consoles?

>>718198239
The PS5 did completely obliterate whatever the current Xbox is called.
Checkmate California deniers.

>>718192692
Yes

>>718202460
>3rd place proud of beating 4th place

kek

>>718191815 (OP)
>Won 8 gen from wo
>lost anyway
Lmao the absolute state of play

>>718195986
Sony is this shitshow because of wiiu flop and one disaster

>>718202262
NTA but you think normalfags care about exclusives? They only want a box to play games on and that’s the ps5 and switch 2. I swear it’s like you people are stuck 1 stuck in the ps3/xbox 360 days

>>718202460
Phil did even tried

>>718202757
>it’s like you people are stuck 1 stuck in the ps3/xbox 360 days
Since I still see shit getting sprouted from over a decade ago they pretty much are stuck in that mindset

>>718202757
Buddy people buy nintendo to play bing bing wahoo , bing bing wahoo on karts zelda and pokemon

>>718202460
Sony didn't do shit. Microsoft killed Xbox entirely by themselves.

>>718200134
now adjust for inflation

>>718191815 (OP)
>fire every competent industry veteran that works for you or any studio you own
>fire all straight white males deemed problematic by HR
>replace fired people with diversity hires, pajeets and AI
>become incapable of producing anything decent
>start bleeding money
>need to do something fast
>nobody remains with the competence and vision to turn things around
>decide to just double then triple down on your retardation because you think you're too big to fall
>YOU ARE HERE
>???
I can hardly wait. Shame Nintendo fans are subservient cattle, it would bring me joy to see all big 3 crumble to fucking dust.

is anyone actually surprised by this after playstation moved to california 9 years ago or however long its already been and they let a dutch cuck push horizon and concord?

>>718203023
>Nintendo fans are subservient cattle
>He says this after the wiiu flop

>>718203203
But now they've said "yes, $80 games, $100 controllers, hiking prices for lastgen hardware and vaguely alluding to an economic situation to funnel people into new hardware, and still charging full price for lastgen games is perfectly fine".

>>718203203
Feels like gamers had a bit more sense during the Wii U era.

How to succesfully live service:
>notice a community developed mini mod game that's going viral
>buy that team & game
>profit forever
t.Gabe Newell

>>718204320
With the WiiU, Nintendo fans had an alternative in the form of the 3DS (it started rough but it got its bearings by the time the WiiU released), not to mention the PS4 if they weren't loyalists. With the Switch 2, Nintendo fans really have no other choice this time (dwindling legacy support for the Switch 1 notwithstanding). I'm still not dismissing the possibility of the Switch 2 plateauing hard outside of Japan after a dead cat bounce from the holiday season. It's going to depend heavily on what they announce soon for 2026.

>>718191815 (OP)
I'd like to give you some live service, big boy.

>>718203023
>start bleeding money
more like make more money than ever >>718200134

>Live services are infinite reoccurring revenue.

Why does it look so weird to you guys that companies are going to chase that revenue? It makes absolute sense. If I was the president of Sony I would do that exact same thing.

>>718198239
>>Sony Japan handed control of Playstation over to California HQ because the PS3 didn't immediately beat the Xbox 360
Retard alert. Andrew House and the old guard were still calling the shots until the PS5 era. The ones who started porting games were Jim Ryan and Herman Hulst

>>718198552
>there's nothing your kids care about on Nintendo anyway
>kids
said kids will play nintendo and smash most of their childhoods, then they will grow up to be decently adjusted teens and ask for jrpgs released on the switch
then because they grew up with proper vidya they will continue buying nintendo stuff when they gain purchasing power

>>718205215
it's clearly not infinite money when even live service slop keeps getting greedier and greedier while making less and less content

>>718205215
You're the type of cancer that kills gaming

>>718206729
>You're the type of cancer that kills gaming
nigga stfu with your 2015 meme. did FF XIV kill Square? it literally saved them. same with Nikke and Steller Blade.

>>718191815 (OP)
you forgot the [GOOD NEWS]

>>718192326
based Vitanigger

>>718205215
Because they are doing a terrible job at it. They don't understand that their AAA games work on making generic games with impressive production values, which is the exact opposite of how live service games work.
inb4 some mouth breather is trying too hard to fit in by going "live service game bad gameplay reee".

>>718206897
now repeat that in english

>>718202435
Counterstrike is on consoles, yes

>>718206972
it's not

they'll get a hit or they'll die trying
let's all hope they die

>>718207012
retardbro..

>>718207069
steam exclusive

>>718206729
>You're the type of cancer that kills gaming
>Half-Life 2
>Release date: November 16, 2004
that's gabe with his focus on gaas and monetizing everything. no?

What's the success rate of live service games (excluding gacha) anyway? I can name maybe four off the top of my head that "made it" in the last 15 years.

>>718202975
Just checked. PS5 made double what PS2 did after inflation.

How is it that normies were able to distance themselves from the Xbone and crash that entire division but still keep the shit station in profit year after year.

I know it's all FIIIIIIFAAAAAAAA spics but still

>>718206823
Square becoming AAA killed them, they can barely make the type of games they used to make. Many of their IPs are dead.

>>718207251
Not even close to being the same as what Sony is currently doing. They really should go back to their PS1, PS2, and PSP era of game development.

>>718207860
I don't even know but high prices of next gen should finally do home consoles in. I doubt people will be interested in the PS6 handheld.

>>718191815 (OP)
>all in gambling for a new shartnite in 2025
lol, lmao even

>>718207445
quite literally nearly 0.0001%
the success stories you can name are likely all of them, especially with how even shareholders can only name GTAV, fortnite, and basically that's fucking it

>>718207860
It's not niggerball shit actually, that has been unprofitable since 2022 IIRC.
It's literally just roblox, fortnite and genshin keeping up the kikestation alive.
And genshit collapsed and cut PS4 support to reduce costs (which is literally 33% of the total genshin playerbase and 90% of the PS playerbase) and now roblox is going to fucking die to protect literal kid diddlers, leaving only fortnite.

>>718200261
Because it brings in more money. There are people that will just never buy a console but are willing to spend on a game on steam they won't even play.

>>718192326
nobody pushed for this retard, it was jim ryan and herman

>>718191815 (OP)
I wish Sony was still a Japanese company
they made smarter decisions then and made better games too

>>718210675
You laughed at senran getting killed because "lmao nobody cares about coomer games".
Now I laugh at the grave of everything you loved being burned to ashes, which I'm pissing on.

Winners always keep the dice rolling

Years ago, Apple was looking into getting into home consoles and they were actually sourcing parts and distributors. Fun fact is they abandoned the idea because it wasn't possible to make a profit on it without massive loss leaders

>>718211069
This is why Nintendo went handheld, why Valve dropped the set-top box under the TV idea, and why other companies also didn't do it after Google failed. This was always going to end like this for Sony and Microsoft and it's funny. Switch and Steam Deck were brilliant ideas.

>>718205215
Because they have to succeed at it first, and a live service succeeding is completely random with zero guarantee. People only have so much time and already have one or two live service games they're dedicated to usually. Marvel Rivals only got big out of a very specific disdain in Overwatch 2 happening at the exact same time it came out and it being a recognizable brand on top of that. It cannibalized OW2 numbers and Blizzard even started chasing its features like a third-person mode. Helldivers 2 for some reason randomly got latched onto by PC players specifically which blew up its numbers.
Mihoyo released both HSR and ZZZ and both are cannibalizing Genshin's userbase and all three of them are doing well but not some sort of juggernauts.

Live service is a dumb industry to get into because it requires immense luck to succeed and when you do it's only consistent revenue until you drop the ball, and the initial numbers you get will never be the numbers you retain.

>>718212678
>People only have so much time
I think that's another thing corponiggers don't realize.
Not only people have limited time, not only they were already trapped in their favorite GAASlop, but they are also dropping said slop because either they literally do not have time to play it anymore thanks to being too busy with works and being too busy resting during free time to play, or straight up being sick of GAAS and moving back to single player vidya.

>>718191815 (OP)
They aren’t wrong. Zoomers don’t buy games and one fortnite or Roblox can make more money than 10 single player games combined. They basically have fuck you money and can afford 100 concords if they wanted.

>>718211234
And where will the masses play gta6?

>>718213279
goyta6 should have released last year to be relevant
not only it will happen until next year, it may get delayed again to be a ps6 launch game, nobody gives a shit anymore, they took too fucking long

>>718191815 (OP)
GaaS is pretty much the standard these days so it doesn't surprise me. Most people just play a small handful of games and dump a bunch of money into those over the years.

>>718213372
It’s like the most viewed game trailer of all time. The hype will only increase once the actual market campaign rolls out

>>718197049
>Nintendo
No time for toddlers game, sorry
>Valve
The ones responsible for the digitalization of videogames?
Fuck you and kys.

>>718213279
Nowhere, it's pretty much fucked. It'll get delayed until 2027 for next gen which will cost an arm and a leg with PlayStation, and both arms and legs with Xbox. They will also use the excuse to bump GTAVI's price to $100.

>>718213639
Cope bitch, you lost

>>718213229
Live services are a huge gamble and if one fails (as most of them do), you could make more money off of multiple smaller games

>>718205215
It's not infinite. Eventually, the money stops coming in.

>>718192326
Absolutely fucking based
Are you me?

>>718215293
You're the cuck with an overpriced tablet and games for retarded kids, not me.

>>718206961
sony make big cutscene but small game
not good for long time play
only good for one time watch
not work for game you play 1000 moons
money gone like sun at night

>>718204204
>Dedicates 3 months of his life to lying 24/7 about $90 games, $120 controllers, $600 Switch 2
>P-people who call my lies out are subservient cattle!
Having to lie in the first place shows you didn't think the real prices were bad enough, you know?

>>718192194
Similar to MS

It's so fucking funny how people prophesized Nintendo going the way of Sega, yet they are the last ones standing in regards to actually making console exclusives.

And they never WILL go third party, based on the gigaleak we had some transcript of meetings and while Nintendo was in the red the topic came up and they went like "we'd rather burn this whole company down than go multiplat"

>>718200134
>6% profit margin
lol, lmao

>>718216846
>we'd rather burn this whole company down than go multiplat
Smokescreen for the fact that they'd burn it down than let Mario have Peach.

>>718216727
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about?

>>718217243
I think he's having a schizo episode about Erin or whatever his name is

>>718216382
You console is dead, Snoybitch

>>718217243
You thought you could turn Switch 2 into a Wii U 2 by spamming a Vietnamese flipflop making forum. You failed (for obvious reasons), so now you lash out at people calling them cultists because you're mad you wasted 3 months of your life.
Don't worry, it will flop in 2 more weeks.

>>718192059
That just means they can hold sexist pigs accountable for bankruptcy. What's it like being on the wrong side of history?

>>718218548
You need to take your meds. NOW. Your parents are getting worried.

>>718218708
You should make better life choices next time

>>718218801
Like defending a toy company 24/7 on a Cantonese geology forum?

>>718208051
>They really should go back to their PS1, PS2, and PSP era
retard
nobody will play that shit especially after modern games, if you are not spending $200 millions on your slop nobody will bother because indies exist that do it better

>>718205215
it's not infinite revenue; it's gambling.

>>718219143
Kill yourself, you normalfag piece of shit.

>>718219080
See? You are doing this again.
Calling out your lies is not "defending a toy company".
People want to discuss what they don't like about Nintendo's approach with Switch 2, but they are drowned out by constant "$90 GAMES! $599 TABLET! YOU'LL GET BANNED OF YOU LOOK AT IT FUNNY! NINTENDO SUED MY CAT!" spam.
All because this toy was not made by your favourite toy company.

>>718194724
that's the whole industry at this point

>>718219297
I didn't say anything that was a lie though. You made that up in your head.

>>718219272
ok anon
post the last ps1-ps2-psp game you played with playtime or a screenshot from the game
you can keep throwing your childish tantrums but jim ryan was totally right: nobody wants to play this zero QoL unplayable shit looking garbage, all the roms are rotting on direct download websites because nobody plays them and all the relevant games had a remaster/remake, multiple times even

>>718208469
>>It's not niggerball shit actually, that has been unprofitable since 2022 IIRC
How? They literally invented lootboxes for FIFA, did they not?

>>718219080
You know defending can only happen if someone is attacking.

>>718219508
Based low standards anon

>>718219508
And that's why Sony is going third party and their PlayStation hardware is dying and eventually will go away.

>>718219951
What attack did I make?

>>718219080
Calling bad tactics bad isn't defense.

Well, even here where it seems that everyone should know how shit the f2p model is and how it's designed with the worst intentions, a huge amount of people still play them and believe they're getting a deal because the game is "free"

Nintenchads gonna be the only playerbase in the next 10 years, mark my words

>>718220140
No but going apefuck and scrawling out barely coherent screeds accusing anons of saying shit they didn't say, just because they dared to criticize your toy of choice, IS defensive.

>>718220070
>And that's why Sony is going third
and what's the issue with that?
you can't live off exclusives when they cost $250+ millions each
>PlayStation hardware is dying
it's barely behind the ps4 while being more expensive, the same also applies to games, accessories, services
>and eventually will go away.
keep coping pclard
no gta6 at launch for you

>>718200134
This is basically every company, across all mediums right now, except for most movies. Make shit, put it out, millennials buy it, never play it beyond 2-3 hours, just long enough to say they don't care and are having a blast, then buy something else new and shiny to have a blast with for 2-3 hours.

Then, they bitch that they have no money and that the economy is crashing and food prices are too high and global warming is killing them, so they have to buy another 70$ game on launch to cope with it all.

>>718220365
wasn't there an article that younger people are spending less than every on video games released recently?

>>718220430
I mean is it their fault?
anyway boomers, genxers and millennials spend enough money to keep the industry afloat

>>718220276
Is the guy making accusations in the thread with us

>>718220430
Millennials are no longer younger people, but it is likely that zoomers aren't spending money on games considering the ones I know have one game they've played for the past 10~ years and that's it. I think they're spending less on new games but more on skins for whatever f2p they like, if my experience is anything to go on.

>>718191815 (OP)
>MLB The Show
do snoys really? Haven't heard a single person play this or watched a single piece of actual gameplay from it. Honestly I'm not convinced the game even exists

>>718220514
The power of the 80s obsessed Gen X and the 90s or 2000s obsessed millennial is enough to keep retarded game bubbles afloat on ebay for a decade straight with no signs of stopping. The buying habits of these two generations have completely destroyed all of the theoretical economist degrees out there, because supply and demand doesn't mean shit.

>>718220518
Here
>>718216727
>>718218548
>>718219297

>>718219569
on niggerball your gacha progress literally gets wiped every season, forcing you to spend all over again
by now people are sick of it

>>718220253
>Xbox is dead despite goypass.
>PS is going third party and snoys don't buy games to begin with, 15 million PiS5 users have not bought a single game.
>PC is dying despite the line going up because chinks are buying PCs to play gacha with, but in the rest of the world people are getting priced out of vidya due to even entry level GPUs with jewtracing costing and arm and a leg.
>Nintendo is still going on as chill as ever and are the only company with non-GAAS games topping charts.
>Even in mobile, gachaslop keeps collapsing (hoyo already dropped PS4 support to cut costs) and the bubble seems to be bursting.
We effectively are the only playerbase still standing.

So what is it about Playstation that drives Nintendo fans here into such obsessive levels of hatred for it?
>is it Sony's paid online?
Nope. Nintendo does that too with no puback.
>is it Sony's censorship?
Nah. Nintendo fans defended and underplayed recent examples of games like Neptunia getting censored on Nintendo. Not to mention Nintendo's prior and extensive history of censorship.
>is it Sony's wokeness?
That's not it. Nintendo were the ones who popularized the de-gendering of custom character creation in games with New Horizons (a game that also got dialog patches to avoid vague similarities to George Floyd).
>is it Sony's game prices?
Wrong. Nintendo fans did some incredible mental gymnastics to justify Nintendo not only adopting $70 as a standard, but introducing the brainworms of $80 in the industry in the same fell swoop.
>is it Sony's hardware prices?
Think again. Nintendo raised prices on Switch 1 hardware after nearly a decade without price drops as a scummy tactic to funnel people into the Switch 2 (and vaguely shifted the blame onto world economics).
>is it Sony's accessory prices?
Not at all. Nintendo tricked their fans into thinking the Pro Controller 2 is the perfect controller just because it's $90 and has an internal stick gate instead of using the shell.
>is it Sony's lack of exclusive games?
Doubt it. There hasn't been a single general Direct yet in the Switch's lifespan, while there were two by this point in the Switch 1's life.
>is it Sony's staff talking shit about their past games?
Hah! Aonuma recently talked shit about the pre-BotW Zelda games and cynically wrote off the possibility of anyone liking them for non-nostalgia reasons.
>so what could it be?
The only thing I can think of is Sony coming along and actually providing stiff competition for Nintendo with the PS1 and 25-30 years ago. But surely Nintendo fans aren't so fucking petty and vengeful to hold hate in their hearts for such an old "transgression". Right?

>>718218098
Sony made more money with PS5 than PS4

>>718191815 (OP)
Playstation is dead and that's a good thing

>>718223473
I saw pan...

>>718205215
Because it doesn't sell consoles. On top of that their most profitable games are all coming to Switch 2 as well because it's all third party shit.

>>718215420
All games are a huge gamble. The industry right now is incapable of actually making something small and quick. They can spend five years on a regular game or five years on a live service

>we have destiny 2
>i-its better than borderlands! It’s always better than borderlands! A-at least we have that!

>>718191815 (OP)
Why are AAAs so fucking against server browsers?
Like literally what is their reason?

>>718222947
>Seething Snoy is a vtranny

And the saddest part is that I believe this could have been avoided if Sony fans had focused their anger on criticizing Sony instead of silencing criticism and projecting everything bad Sony does onto other companies

>>718191815 (OP)
>pumps another five hundred million dollars into the GaaS slot machine
>pulls the lever
>waits another five years for the reels to line up
>"THIS TIME FOR SURE!"
Looks like they've fallen into the hole that they've been wanting to push their customers into.

>>718192326
all 500 of you vita weebfags collectively took down sony, bravo

>>718225376
>>718226714
Samefag

>>718222947
Notice how the only responses you get are silence or seething pissy indignity.

>>718205215
Because most of these games fucking bomb. Also most people only have time for a handful of games to sink their life into.

>>718225228
Eric Begone
Whatever came of this guy anyway

>>718230667
snoys lost another one.
imagine buying a piece of shit 5

>>718205215
It makes less sense if you consider that your main competitors are already well established and the best you can hope for is table scraps. Doubly so if you want to have your cake and eat it too in regards to maintaining a queer uggo design philosophy that puts off most of your demographic.

>>718233210
At least they are aware enough to cancel this shit. But it will only serve to move to another GAAS

>>718231179
he was fired. now he has more free time to do what he loves.

>>718200134
They are a company that only exist because of the brand and they spent this entire generation burning it. They aren't going to be okay next gen. The decline is already hitting ps5 sales Vs PS4 and it's masked by Microsoft completely vanishing as a competitor.

>>718204204
>to funnel people into new hardware
>>718222947
>to funnel people into the Switch 2
Why did you post the same shit again 7 hours later after no one fell for your bait?

And btw, funny how you are in "Sony is shitting on PS5 owners by going all in on garbage GAAS at the expense of single player games" running full on damage control and deflecting to other companies as if that makes it better for PS5 owners.

>>718233210
How big is Sony's GAAS graveyard now

>>718220632
right its the gen-xers and the millenials not the jews printing dollars and inventing fake economies before the dollerinos even make it to their jew owned banks... oh yeah its the damn millenials fault ruining things lol

>>718225228
Eric begone

>>718221336
>15 million PiS5 users have not bought a single game.
Wtf?

>>718191815 (OP)

>"But if we look at the past five years, five years ago live service games were almost non-existent for PlayStation Studios.

That's sad to be honest

Must be some 5D chess type shit

>>718220253
MoblieGODS will rule basedtendie. /v/ self is already under control, soon the entire world.

>>718213372
Normal fans love gta anon

>>718191815 (OP)
After Microsoft bought CoD they think they are fucked, and are trying to make their own CoD. They don't need to do this, they are just retarded.

>>718238047
No you're seeing the downfall of Sony in real time. Like the downfall of Sega but with more public eye.

>>718191815 (OP)
Yes.
They try so long, until something finally hits and gives easy 100 Millions every Month.
>What about the financial losses?
Increase Console Prices and another Roll Slop for 120

>>718229259
Retard

>>718192326
Same, fuck them.

>>718217457
Microtransactions fundamentally alter how games are designed

Games with microtransactions are designed to be borderline unplayable without them, they're designed to be grindy tedious pieces of shit that waste your time in order to frustrate you into paying to speed up the process

>>718233210
>only 4 years of wasted development
Sony is improving!

>>718235182
>y-y-youre not allowed to use a word more than once per thread! It's bait!!!!

>>718216846
When was Nintendo in the red? Even during WiiU their profits were down but they weren’t in the red.

>>718191815 (OP)
You know things are bad when they're trying to use Destiny 2 as an example of a stable profitable game

>>718235275
Who knows but Fairgames is another studio they bought for the game just like what happened with Concord.

>>718191815 (OP)
Live service slop is fit for all goyim

>>718241313
Thanks for admitting both of those posts were yours and you've been seething about Nintendo in "Sony is going to shit" thread for 13 hours straight.