Thread 718406938

How the fuck did they knew all that stuff back then? This part of the game gets scarier each year

AI Colonel sounding like an LLM breaking down at the end is crazy

>>718406938 (OP)
McLuhan coined "the medium is the message" in the 60s and and Baudrillard wrote "Simulacra and Simulation" in the 70s. Kojima just popularised the concepts

>>718406938 (OP)
People have been doomposting about technology and humanity since the first machine was made.

>>718406938 (OP)
Kojima is just very tech skeptical. Always has been, always will be. While most people in 1999 were shitting their jeans about how awesome the internet was going to make the world, he was actually thinking about the realistic effects a new age of mass media would bring.

He was actually talking about jannies
https://youtu.be/KZcCO2xGt60?si=4iTfmKFtuPlckXcY

>ermm actually sweaty we need to propagandize you and take away your freedom to speak because... umm... we are very very smart and you are not!!!
MY SEX JUNK
IS SO OH OH OH

>>718406938 (OP)
because it really wasn't that novel, the manner it was delivered was pretty novel though.

What I want to know is, how did the author of Shimoneta get it so fucking spot-on?

>>718407528
The difference is that most doomposting is very lazy "Grog doesn't like newfangled fire". Kojima isn't some kind of mega genius but you can tell he at least finished high school while paying attention. That puts him above most writers in the video game industry.

>>718407567
Kojima just rice washes science fiction tropes for weebs that don't read.

>>718406938 (OP)
The subtle horror in MGSV is often overlooked and it's brilliant. It's so absurd and unexpected, it makes me more pissed we never got Silent Hills. FUCK KONAMI

>>718407442
>sci-fi concept
>quotes commies
???

>>718406938 (OP)
>this is the same person who wrote "princess beach"
What a character

>>718407594
>We have to take away your freedom
>Why
>Look outside
They are pretty correct, frankly.

>>718407884
Kojima's a peacenik, what were expecting his inspirations to be?

>>718407594
I don't understand why we can have that shit and Cuties on TV and on Youtube and other streaming platforms but we can't let people buy hentai games featuring rape or ambiguously-aged women.

>>718408116
money stolen

>>718408116
It isn't about the content, it is about taking away things that they think their opposition likes.

>>718407897
Honestly a lot of the commentary Death Stranding has on how technology affects/influences social connections was pretty applicable (if overly blunt, but I guess you can't have everything). It's wrapped up in a pretty absurd setting but the prepper emails are worth reading.

>>718408090
My favorite thing in the world is to take people who talk so much shit about touching grass out to scenic vistas like this just to watch them feel nothing and take selfies. I will record them doing this and then show them what they are like after. I've got to do this three times now and it is the most magical thing in the world seeing their face as they watch their carefully constructed self image and value system crumble.

>>718408116
This nigga is really still going on about cuties. It is 2025 dude

So the APAS guy just just wants to quarantine everyone in their homes forever? I didn't know Kojima was an anti-masker

>>718408653
now scenic vistas are full of brown people with boomboxes blasting nigmumble and littering. dey culcha

Deus Ex touched on the same concepts. I guess this was a point of discussion at the turn of the century.

>>718408653
Why would I go outside? Nature is disgusting. Birds poop out there

>>718408653
and then everyone stood up and clapped

>>718409153
>t. can't even make it up an easy trail to realize it's just a lot of sweating and getting eat up by bugs to see some trees

>>718407884
Wait till you discover kojima's political beliefs

>>718407594
>the masses are retarded and cant be trusted with their own fate
But is he wrong?

>>718406938 (OP)
The elites leak clues about the upcoming (pre-planned) future to the masses through various means including popular media, it's called priming

>>718407884
Mcluhan isn't a communist you imbecile

Kojima is a hack that just watched various movies in the 60's about ai's controlling stuff and just molded the idea to the modern times.
I mean, just look at his mgs genes and nuke bullshit too see what a midwit he is.

>>718409365
idk lilbro i don't have a mind reading beam that can read and process and analyze the thought processes of all 7 billion ppl at once and decide if they are capable or not
do you?

>>718409541
No, but we have some shitty algorithms that we can set up to create a mockery of that idea.

I am a smoothbrain what was the social commentary of this scene

>>718409541
no but I do have 30+ years of never seeing competence ever so I'm gonna err on the side of caution and just assume that everyone fucking sucks.

>>718407594
Mob rule was a mistake and its more evident every day

>>718409541
>do you
Yes.

>>718407905
make problem
sell solution

>>718407442
Yeah people are inspired on, build and branch out from things. That's learning

Anyone else notice how this is the only scene from this game that ever gets talked about?

>>718409670
everything in deathstranding goes right over my head other than the meme "building connections"

>>718409865
The pissing scene is also popular.

Free flow of information bad

>>718409865
yes you had to be alive closer to when the game was released to encounter people who had played it and also had the capability of forming their own opinions. congratulations you are capable of basic levels of observation.

>>718409365
Nobody can be trusted with the fate of everyone else, including AI. Not even AI that hasn't been lobotomized.
Give the best person on earth control of the planet and he'll fucking die and get replaced by someone who wants to abuse power.

>>718409865
>the big climax of the game is the most discussed part
what a fucking revelation

>>718409541
every major religion has to spell out that stealing, murdering, and fucking your neighbour's wife is wrong

>>718409894
Okay I'll take a crack at it: Die-Hardman's dancing is basically the counterpoint to APAS's plans to lock everyone in their homes. They're "connected" via the chiral network sure, but the real importance of connection is physical, real contact. So the dancing, as absurd as it is, is what allows APAS's vision for the future to be defeated, because the physical act of dancing, being in the room with other people, rejects the isolated world that APAS wants to create.

>>718410254
which is really just all a load of horseshit and actually Kojima just wanted to have a Hollywood Dancing Rockwell moment in one of his movi-- I mean games.

>>718410384
>Hollywood dancing rockwell
What that means

>>718408653
>take people who talk so much shit about touching grass out to scenic vistas like this just to watch them feel nothing and take selfies.
>I will record them doing this
sounds like youre both taking pictures of the same retard instead of appreciating the sublime beauty of nature

>>718410110
>religion
Deprecated by science

People who make too much of a show about hiking are real suspicious to me. There's only so many waterfalls you need to see in real life. They're not that special

>>718410094
Wouldn't the climax be the final battle with Solidus? And yet I never hear a word about Solidus or Dead Cell or anything except this one codec call.

>>718410491
>nature
>beauty
There's fucking nothing.

>>718410491
>beauty of nature
tell me how I know you've never been off basic bitch manicured trails and use hiking as a form of virtue signaling even though it's fucking gay aids

t. I was a scout then in the military then a park ranger I've been dealing with gay stupid fucking nature my whole life it SUCKS FUCK YOU SOCIAL MEDIA HYPOCRITE PERFORMATIVE RETARDS AHHHHHH

>>718410848
>military
>hurr durr afghanistan sucked therefore the whole world sucks

>>718410491
Nature is mostly prickly shit that kills you. Fuck nature, people might vacation there but nobody wants to live in that shit

I'm going to go ahead and say that I agree with the women's way of taking a photo of something, because if you're taking a picture of a famous landmark, it means nothing to me if it's just a photo of the landmark. I can Google a higher quality picture of the Eiffel Tower than any photo you could take. Now, if you're IN the photo, then it has more contextual value because I presumably care about the person in the photo being there.

>>718411035
I was stationed in Korea and the Phillipines but that was only one tour so by and far away the majority of my time spent outside has been RIGHT IN THE STATES YOU SKINFLUTE PLAYING RETARD.

>>718408671
>things that really happened don't actually matter.

>>718411317
>not even deployed in combat
circle jerking on base with your butt buddies doesn't make you an expert in outside, retard

>>718409670
The dance is defiance against the AIs of APAS. Its a truly human expression, something the AIs aren't capable of. Also Kojima liked the dance scene in Alan Wake 2 and copied it

I mean the whole point of Cuties was that it was a critique of the oversexualizing of young women, right? Like that was very obviously what the movie was critiquing, but I guess taking this attitude to its most extreme and holding a mirror of it to people made them too uncomfortable

>>718410848
You seem obnoxious

>>718411786
Cool that makes more sense then. Any way I could watch Troy Baker chew the scenery as Higgs all day. He's so fun.

>>718409365
Yes, but there's no real solution.
All solutions proposed involve getting a handful of these stupid individuals and letting em shit with the live of billions, which will always make the situation worse.

>>718409379
>We will prepare the unwashed masses to accept our new totalitarian controls by releasing this media that says these new totalitarian controls are horrifying and should not be accepted
Huh?

>>718410254
I kinda get it, what revives everybody is Die-Hardman touching them and they come back to life.

>>718410454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB7Vb2_QpA0

the goat

>>718412493
Oh yeah I forgot that happened as well. Anyway, I think Kojima grew skeptical of the worth of social media as a substitute for human connection but he only lightly touches upon it with APAS and then it's just... solved?

>>718406938 (OP)
>How the fuck did they knew all that stuff back then? This part of the game gets scarier each year
Like Deus Ex it's just speculative fiction, you take what is occurring and extrapolate. Kojima's isn't even particularly close to what is happening as the LLMs aren't making the censorship decisions on their own, yet.
1984 and Brave New World are still much closer to the reality we live under, a mix of the two dystopian ideals if you will.

crazy right

>>718406938 (OP)
Because it was already going on and or being planned. Zoomies think everything happening now is new instead of retreads of old ideas written up a century ago.

>>718406938 (OP)
I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream had another deadly concept about AI. The US AI winning was erroneous though, China AI would have been cooler in that story, and more benevolent

why would we give something sentience only to urinate and defecate into it?

>>718415384
>China AI would have been cooler in that story
somehow AM speaking in chinkese would not be as interesting

>>718406938 (OP)
They looked at history books and then-current state of the world and extrapolated from the available data. You really don't need to do anything else to come up with a horrific dystopia.

>>718412417
It doesn't matter if it's painted in a good or bad light, (You) aren't going to do anything about it and can't anyway. The point is just to prime your brain to be ready for it when it comes. If anything portraying it as the bad guy helps with instilling the learned helplessness.

>>718415749
If I can't/won't do anything about it, why would it matter if my brain is ready for it or not?

What's scarier is that "internet speech must be regulated, goy. It's not about censoring content, but creating context" was the plan of evil Illumninati AIs in 2001, and in 2025 is a mainstream opinion of tons of politicians in the west.

>>718407567
Kojima is a 5'2 gremlin and nerds no cap needs to calm their fanboy tits

>>718406938 (OP)
it was obvious

>>718406938 (OP)
A lot of theoretical stuff has been floating around for a while but not in the limelight as trash tends to float to the top, Kojima for all his faults and hunger for Hollyjew cock is weirdly redpilled on a lot of things likely because he understands that literally everything is propaganda.
Add to this Deus Ex effect where if you throw a ton of conspiracy shit into your game, some of it will turn out to be true.
Ironically these technologies that were meant to be our certain doom have resulted in the greatest unleashing of chaos and illuminating sunlight because the people in charge are tech illiterate and didn't realize it could be turned on them.

>>718408116
Cuties is literally about how children are easily exposed to sexualized media nowadays and depicts it as a bad thing

>>718415858
u-ummm...

>>718408116
Just stop bringing up Cuties, it outs you as a soccer mom level ignorant retard who gets all his news from the Fox Boomer pipeline

>They are leaving little clues about their evil plan!!!... For some reason
I know tinfoil hats aren't the brightest but how can they believe this shit? If anything it tells you that medie encouraging free thinking is their weakness

>>718416567
media*

>>718407442
A fool spits but a genius hears

>>718409365
A computer program with language synthesis is hardly the answer to the world's problems.

>>718416567
Some people start with a premise and then find (or fabricate) evidence to support it

>>718416827
that's most people

>>718416919
There are degrees to things

>>718406938 (OP)
It's all there in the open if you bother to read book or scientific journals, particularly military ones.
But. You keep reading the same news outlets. You keep reading paragraphs on imageboards. You keep listening to deranged people parroting red herrings propagated by the institutions they claim to be fighting against. You keep arriving at new hidden truths every month. You keep listening to the talking heads who tell you that isn't how things are.

Serious question: Do you think the people who wrote "At the date of Emperor's coronation several auspicious signs were seen and a cloud dragon descended from the sky" believed that themselves? They knew what had to be written out of conventionality and perhaps the supersitious prole would take it at face value.

>>718416261
Oh, it depicts it as a bad thing? I guess that just cancels out all the sexually exploited children in the movie and during the casting process. It's all square then, because it supposedly says it's a bad thing.

>>718409365
>But is he wrong?
Yes because at the same time that they say the masses can't be trusted to make decisions, they are also never given the full measure of information so they can make good decisions to begin with.
The patriots are self-serving.

>>718417749
You're probably responding to a glowie

>>718406938 (OP)
Just like every central intelligence asset, they are given hints by certain (((editors))) what to put in their media, be it manga, film, or vidya games
They literally had a cutscene in MGS2 where the twin towers go through a terrorist attack and it had to be removed because 9/11 happened.
The entire story of Peace Walker is also about AI
DARPA and various intelligence agencies often even let these "creators" who subvert nations use advanced tech
reminder: google was first used by the military, 2 decades before it was lobotomized and released to the public

>>718418880
Can you answer this>>718416567

>>718419000
Do you not know anything about Masonry or how these Satanists operate ?
They believe that if they tell you exactly what they're doing, in code that the goyim wouldn't understand, that you are just as guilty as them for not doing anything about it.
Exonerating themselves of any sin.
Why are all these pedo's on tv OBSESSED with "pizza" ?

>>718407638
This. I am minutes away from hacking video billboards to display porn.

>>718419493
>Do you not know anything about Masonry or how these Satanists operate?
Why the fuck would we know how they operate?

The YOU ENJOY ALL THE KILLING moments they pull are always really funny to me when the worst part of the games is when you are trying for a specific rank only to see a mook accidentally died somewhere and it counts as your kill

>>718420046
How do you expect to defend yourself if you remain ignorant to the enemy of mankind ?
Satan governs this realm, it is imperative you understand how they communicate, through symbols and code, and what they have planned in that you prepare accordingly.

>>718419493
>Do you not know anything about Masonry
I do. It sounds to me like a bunch of bullshit about connecting le dots when the truth is actually right there. It's this kinda stuff that bothers me, stupid shit about the earth being flat or senseless crap like that which just ends up being used as a distraction from what they actually hide in plain sight

>>718420265
Oh and also, god and satan aren't real

>>718410702
Everything after feels secondary to Raiden getting verbally dismantled by the AI. It's brutal to watch because he is not capable of countering even a single argument they have, not even their statement that he can't even be called human, and then they just abandon Raiden and Solidus like trash.

>>718420336
they are real
10 is the real number of satan
say10
it's everywhere
you're also gay

>>718420265
Do you believe all Masons / Satanists get together every few Solstices ? Just have everyone on speed-dial ? Lmfao. They speak in code to know who is initiated into the brotherhood.
Absolutely nothing senseless about something that pierces into the collective unconscious so hard that we're still talking about it 2 decades later.
>>718420336
Atheism is the origin of savagery.
You're not even a part of the game lmfao, you're conquered.

>>718419493
>>718420395
>>718420221
What do I read to become schizo like this guy?
Besides the bible, I mean.

>>718420539
just keep going with the microplastics and drinking pozzed water
you'll get there

>>718420395
>>718420536
Right buddy, you have it all figured out, how lucky all the religions are some masonic invention except the one you were raised with, huh? What a tool you are

>>718420539
Moby Dick with /lit/'s annotations

>>718406938 (OP)
We were warned and did not listen.

>>718420895
What were we expected to do?

>>718411149
>hey anon, here's my warhammer army I just painted
>yeah that's great and all but *smacks lips* I just googled warhammer army and got a higher quality photo
>anon? that's not my army, that's not even from the same game as my army
>stand in front of the army dickwad or I don't care!
>anon?
Not to mention... what has your post got to do with this thread?

>>718420952
Beat up the clone president

>>718411149
She's pretty

>>718420895
>>718420952
But you did listen.
And you didn't do anything because, oh it's just that? Yeah I heard about that in Metal Gear 20 years ago. We all knew that was going to happen.
See? They got you.

>>718420952
>didn't buy horse armor
>horse armor succeeded
>didn't play diablo immortal
>diablo immortal succeeded
>didn't use AI
>AI succeeded
idk man

>>718407758
this tbqfh
>Guy who's only played kojima games is amazed at all of his "original ideas"

>>718421292
And why didn't you do anything? And how do you know they didn't? Unless you expect everyone who played mgs2 to become a terrorist and start hunting down billionares. The realistic way to fight them back is not playing their game. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here and assuming you aren't some demoralizing glowie

>>718408090
The real injustice is how amazing and bountiful this world is but our frail imperfect bodies prevent us from every truly experiencing this beauty. I am trapped in a prison made of my own flesh and bones. Forced to do menial tasks just to continue to exist. I despise it with every fiber of my being.

>>718416261
guess i'll make a documentary about serial killers where i rape and kill women but it's okay since it's to raise awareness

>>718407905
Ben Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

>>718408653
You have never done this, but you have fantasized about it constantly from within your room.

>>718406938 (OP)
All part of the program. Still waiting for man-made mechanical horrors.
I wonder if they are coming back?

>>718407442
Alternatively, Kojima invent computer

La Creatividad

>>718407594
We create context anon.

>>718406938 (OP)
m8 rulers have always been wrestling with control of knowledge even before books technologically revolutionized information. The catholic church was well aware what threat Luther's protestant reformation radically decentralizing personal interpretation posed. Kojima just picked up the thread on mass-media communication already underway with the 20thC post-modern thinkers and the nascent internet

>>718406938 (OP)
Kojima is unironically a genius and I sincerely wish I were friends with him.

>>718409365
>But is he wrong?
No. The internet is a sea of garbage.

It is so crazy we lived thru 4 years of Biden admistration hell to get to where we are now. Trump is literally a breath of fresh air

>>718423686
archontic post

>>718415408
That's pretty much the whole point of having kidsjj288

>>718423686
>Trump is literally a breath of fresh air
Yes.

>>718423686
All politicians are the same, you amerimutts are a lost fucking cause

>>718406938 (OP)
Censorship and Propaganda is pretty much as old as civilization itself.

>>718423953
I'm so glad we tariffed your countries.

>>718411642
Theres a million creepy, vaguely pedophilic things airing on tv everyday. Why does cuties get more staying power with you creeps than TLC's new reality show about preteen onlyfans models? Just update your dialogue trees, npc. Most people think cuties are those little oranges.

>>718420864
the numbers schizo isn't me lmfao
I wasn't raised Christian btw, I came to the Lord through logic, of which you know very little about.
I'm not the one who figured anything out, the Early Church Fathers did.
How lucky I am to be born in a time when I can make fun of retarded atheists like (You)
Your religion is science, which btw makes absolutely zero sense. String theory mirrors the kabbalah, "dark matter" is mathematically incorrect by 10 to the power of 100 (nice science lmfao). 6 Electrons 6 Protons 6 Neutrons. All matter is called "Atoms" or Adam & Eve. All your beloved planets are literally named after fallen angel pagan gods.
The list goes on

>>718406938 (OP)
Because DARPA wasn't a fictional creation for their game. Now imagine if they talked in-depth about Operation Paperclip.

>>718424348
>i thrive on human suffering because i am a goyim

>>718424348
Not mine, but keep bending over to politicians who le epic own whatever group of people you dislike, that's how they have you on a leash

>>718407905
>there are posters itt on the same mental level as Karens tracking video games

>>718408871
Untrue, truly scenic places need a lot of walking and camping to reach. Brown hordes are allergic to long hikes innawoods, places like yosemite or grand canyon can be easily reached by car and a short walk so you may Jayquon and Tanishas.

>>718415858
Because when it happens it won't be as shocking and you'll be less likely to protest.
They like to slowly dial up the horror so everyone gets used to rounding up all the gypsies before they move on to rounding up all the disabled.
We're currently at the gypsy stage in America, but with Mexicans. Next will be the homeless. In fact it has already started.

>>718421935
faggot

>>718424587
I don't give a shit about science or any religion, the fact that you have to be part of some group telling you what to believe in and are totally the good guys unlike everyone else, is telling enough. But keep up that religious culture war bullshit, I'm sure the ones in power don't use that division to control the masses

>>718406938 (OP)
How else are commies supposed to run shit in their utopia?

>>718407442
Eh, those have similar themes but the specifics that Kojima focused on and how he presented it was unique and original.

>>718408090
look closelier

>>718425197
100 IQ take lmao

>>718406938 (OP)
It was standard technology conspiracy theories that was popular around the time like Deus Ex and Invader Zim.

>>718416567
Narcissists love being noticed and that "return to the scene of the crime thing" isn't a joke. Plus they're actually a bit retarded and don't have very good foresight.

>>718425109
>I don't give a shit about science!!
>Y-you're a brainwashed slave!!
>Is probably vaccinated because of a group of (((experts))) telling them its safe and effective to do so
Interdesting

>>718406938 (OP)
All of the social media, media control stuff had already happened in Japan, apparently, because they got i-mode in the late 90s.

>>718425109
Who are the "ones in power" anon ?
Who are their only enemies ?
I'm sure 5 years ago you would consider a small group of individuals controlling the world to be a conspiracy.

>>718420539
>What do I read
I got u f a m. Check out the back of a dollar bill.
>*finger gun*

>>718424984
I'm an able-bodied productive white with a white female spouse and white child on the way. It sounds like I have nothing to fear
I've always been saying they need to bring asylums back because 70% of homeless are mentally ill and incapable of caring for themselves so, good.
I'm sorry if that means neetbux enjoyers ITT will get caught up too. I like shitposting with you guys but you must have known this couldn't go on forever.

>>718406938 (OP)
>how did they knew
I asked chatgpt to correct your English, it's quite good at that one, pablo
The issue is with the verb tense:

"did they knew" is incorrect.
After "did", the verb must stay in its base form (not past tense).

So it should be:
"How the fuck did they know all that stuff back then?"

>>718406938 (OP)
Play The Silver Case, it was criticizing parasocial social media in 1997, i have no idea how Suda came up with that one.

>>718423686
The only people more guilty of never shutting the fuck up than FNAF players are president haters. If purple man and orange man enjoyers were all put in the same room the fucking soundwaves would kill them before society would.

>>718425109
>>718425493
>>718425651
This is all nice and very fascinating, but it changes nothing.
BTFO'ing some guy on the internet won't make a difference. Tomorrow will come and things will just keep happening, and all I will have in the end are my posts where I discuss geopolitics, secret agendas and evil government plans as if I actually knew what the fuck I am talking about.
Have I been psy-oped into defeatist attitudes and passive acceptance? If so, where's the way out?

>>718425879
The worst thing that happened to the internet since its inception is the advent of these /pol/-brain rightlefters infesting every forum and online place of discussion in the last 15 years, not to mention all the bots mimicking them.
If you ask these people what happened to them in their personal lives that made them start squawking about OTHER SIDE BAD nonstop I bet not one could give you a straight answer.

>>718425773
Yes, yes, you only care when bad things are happening directly to you. Many such cases.
One day you may find the economy has crashed, you've lost your job, your savings are wiped out by a single unexpected medical issue, and now you're living in your car. On that day I hope the gestapo don't enslave you.
Next you'll say this will never happen to you, and that's probably true, but it will happen to someone.

>>718426282
90 IQ post

>>718425493
>my religion is totally the true one!!!!!
>tranime poster
Ah, so you're just retarded, could've told me from the beginning

>>718425651
>Who are the "ones in power" anon ?
Unlike what 4chin chuddies or tranny liberals would want you to believe, it's not the jews, or nazis, or satanists, or anyone like that, it's just a bunch of faceless corporate billionare pushinc their own agendas for profit, literally how it's been since the beginning of mankind with kings and pharaohs, the difference now is that with mass communication, all these people in power now have to coexist, sometimes having conflicting interests

>>718425907
>Have I been psy-oped into defeatist attitudes and passive acceptance? If so, where's the way out?
Yes, that's what they did to the entire population, have them be enslaved to commercial products and a sense of social belonging, it's all designed to kill your soul basically. How can anyone truly propose some social or economic change when everyone is so preoccupied with their own misery caused by the endless grind we're programmed to do since birth? The only realistic way out of all of this is simply focusing on your individual fulfilment and rejecting all the shit the media forces into us, either that or becoming a terrorist

>>718424348
>I'm so glad I get to pay more for less
?

>>718415885
It's truer and easier than ever to craft these false "contexts" using an army of AI/LLM-powered bots. The COVID scenario was the biggest test of the false context creation. How big a lie can they wave around as truth? After the dust settled, for vaccine opinions it was about half and half, 50% took the bait and the other 50% refused no matter what.

so who do I blame for all of this?

>>718427220
>it's just a bunch of faceless corporate billionare pushinc their own agendas for profit
LOL ((()))

>>718426442
But that is the difference between me and the useless eaters. I could lose my job today and you know what I will do?
Get another one while they act like they are too good to flip burgers. I will do it ten times better than the absolute subhumans who need to smoke cigarettes and weed just to cope with everyday stress and I will be running the place within the year.
No one is hiring?
I will build bookshelves and desks stained with instant coffee and finished with walnut oil and sell them.
No one has money for my woodworking?
I will live off my savings until I can plant 4-10x as many beans and potatoes in my backyard as I am already planting, and buy candles so I can still read to my son at night when the power plants go offline.
The government does not even have to come for them because they will simply die without the systems in place. I will not.

>>718427490
>run the place within the year

>>718427490
>oh man, this guy is flipping burgers so good
>what a sucker, I'm gonna cut his hours

>>718427451
Be honest with me anon, do you really think the jews are some mastermind society who magically managed to reach every position of power and control all the wealth in the world? I'm not saying there isn't jews in power abusing their position for their own good, there absolutely is, but having you think everything is controlled by the same puppet masters or something like that is exactly the perfect way for billionares to redirect your hate towards whoever is against their interest. It's all about the wealth gap

>>718427658
>>718427969
I admit I haven't eaten fast food in years but the last time I did, the absolute fucking mongoloids they had running those establishments were not demonstrating value.
I will demonstrate value.

>>718428084
>magically
no

>>718427490
>I could just leave society and the goverment would let me live on my own if I wanted!!!!

>>718407567
It's good to be skeptical about a technology that hasn't seen any real return in over five years, and is, in fact, TRILLIONS of dollars in debt, pushed by only the biggest, ad- and investor-backed corporations, uses a ton of energy while at the same time getting said companies to blame YOU for the energy crisis, and is largely ineffective and also responsible for some of the most ridiculous neuroses ever seen since the dawn of the net.

Will AI always be shit? No, I doubt it. Will it always be shit if it's in the hands of FUCKING RETARDED corporations like Google and Microsoft? No fucking doubt.

>>718425792
English is a retarded language so I don't really give a shit

>>718428396
It's superior to your native language https://vasco-translator.com/articles/languages/what-is-the-most-efficient-language/

>>718428284
I never claimed I would leave society. I will continue to be valuable to society. Hardworking people like me always find a way to make themselves valuable. The only situation in which I can't do that is if there is no more society.

>>718427220
>all these people in power now have to coexist, sometimes having conflicting interests
This is why I believe AI will be the end if it's allowed to develop for long enough. At some point, one of these greedy, short-sighted fuckers will push everyone's luck too far, lose control and that will be that.

>>718428084
Anon you're not supposed to use critical thinking here

>>718428489
>no phonectic consistency
>just have to remember how each specific word is supposed to sound
Nice efficiency you've got there bud

>>718428126
>I will demonstrate value, that will certainly get me to a manager position
>he doesn't know
bless your innocent soul, anon.

>>718428710
critical thinking is when you attribute a very complicated set of events to "magic"
niggabrain

>>718428508
>Hardworking people will just be rewarded
Are you baiting right now anon or do you genuinely believe this shit? Unless you're fine with being a mindless slave of society. Maybe you should take a look at the speech being referenced in the OP

>>718428084
The things attributed to the jews are mostly just late stage capitalism. But some people need to personify their problems and jews are an easy scapegoat with a stereotype for being greedy and a talent for climbing the corporate ladder. Greed is the foundational principle of capitalism. It doesn't really matter who runs the machine if the machine is programmed to maximize profits at the expense of everything else.

The other things attributed to jews are just leftist priorities like social justice reforms. Except now they have to pretend like helping black people is actually a secret ploy to kill all the whites for some reason. And not just well intentioned people trying to make up for racism.

vaporize the JIDF

>>718428925
I don't know why you're taking the word "magic" so literally, read the post again and give it a while

>>718416567
It's all about demoralization
>Yeah we're going to do this and there's no way you can stop us. Even if you warn everybody we're literally announcing it no one will listen non.

>>718428828
Yes, I know, it's an unfair arbitrary meritless system because you showed up on time and did the bare minimum of what you were asked to do and didn't immediately rise to the top. My goodness.
I'm where I am now because I chose to do more and if I lose my current place, I will always choose to do more wherever I end up. I don't waste everyone's time second guessing how my boss keeps his job, I elevate them. Bosses LIKE it when their subordinates elevate them. Wanna know a secret? Incompetent bosses like it most of all, because they can't elevate themselves.
That's how people like me keep winning no matter where we are.

>>718429068
You could Luigi every CEO in the country and nothing would change.
Not until you reprogram the machine to care about human wellbeing.
The only way to do that is regulations. For example, imposing water quality safety standards to protect the people from industrial pollution.

>>718429316
>>718429316
>>718429316
Alright you little scamp, don't spend them all in one place.

>>718429068
Pretty much this. Sadly, decades of social engineering have pretty much made it impossible to interact with normies without having to tie yourself to some political affiliation who hates some other group of people, even all the conspiracy schizos have fallen victim to this. Each decade more new social labels will keep coming out and the smoke screen it's still going to be up

There's literally nothing coherent about the message of either MGS2 or the philosophy by which it was inspired.

>>718429358
>imposing water quality safety standards to protect the people from industrial pollution.
that is extremely anti-semitic

>>718408653
I've never seen the point of visiting places. Its just so dull. Like what can I do in this city that I cant do at home. Sure there is unique food but thats about it

>>718406938 (OP)
>Being this naive
It's called predictive programming and they do it with tv all the time too. It's just the usual homo powers that be ( even Nixon called them a bunch of fags) being gay and laying out their homo fag plans and laughing at retards like (You)

>>718428508
Good goy

>>718408671
Pedo

>>718416567
>Project Mockingbird wasn't real and never happened you fucking chuds!!!!
Hello Elgin AFB glowNIGGER

>>718425239
I know you are but what am I?

>>718431206
That's not what I said at all though, retard

>>718406938 (OP)
They had like 20+ years of Tom Clancy books at that point.

>>718430929
You're getting cut off, useless eater.

>>718431582
Are they any good? Never got around to reading them

>>718424348
kek you really triggered the shitskins

>>718429068
nice try kike

>>718425907
>just allow evil to take root
No thanks, Satan.
I will always trample on serpents and scorpions until my dying breath.
If the situation was hopeless, their propaganda would be un-necessary.
You have no idea how powerful it is to chip away at the logical inconsistencies of a man's pysche. Gradually piercing their un-conscious, forcing them to face their hypocrisy. The same force that brings people closer to God, which is inevitably the meaning of life.

>>718425153
The presentation was interesting but the ideas aren't fresh, arguably the creating context angle is just basic Bernays propaganda.

>>718427220
Being a servant of the Lord isn't any religion.
This "religion" happens to have built every single greatest civilization within the past 2,000 years, including the one you currently reside in. All your laws stem from a Christian doctrine. All the founding fathers were Christian. Most of your morality comes from that same Christian doctrine.
>a bunch of faceless corporate billionaires control the world
so billionaire's, who are tied down by money and can literally all be identified, control the world. got it.
Wouldn't it be those who literally print money and are world trillions (Rothschilds) that would control the world ? No no, that would be too much for your retard brain to comprehend wouldn't it.
Carry on then.

>>718434016
I fucking love God and his son Jesus.

>>718434016
This nigger won't do shit other than post on /v/, but he's got a seat next to the father and the son guaranteed once his brain shuts down.

>>718406938 (OP)
>Game constantly breaks the 4th wall
Any game that does that makes it not scary at all, I lose immersion and all seems like a joke to me, why should I care if the game doesn't?

>>718406938 (OP)
It's funny that Kojima is now a woke globalist shill for this kind of shit.

>>718416567
Tikkun olam nigger, look it up

>>718433669
>I will always trample on serpents and scorpions until my dying breath.
What does that mean or entail?

>>718434104
Amen
>>718434227
I've been debating atheists for years. They all recycle the exact same hive-mind arguments, uncapable of thinking anything through themselves.

>>718434016
>Wouldn't it be those who literally print money and are world trillions (Rothschilds) that would control the world ?
So literally what I said. You christcucks don't even know what you believe in

>>718434635
cope and seethe

>>718434769
I accept your concession

>>718434578
>I've been debating atheists for years
Stunning and brave!
Jesus must be proud.

>>718428084
>magically
Idk anon, why was 90% of Biden's cabinet jew-ish ?
Why is literally all forms of media both right and left owned by jews ?
Were they kicked out of 109 countries over the centuries due to "capitalism" ?
Billionaire's can all be identified.
There have been trillionaire dynasties since the dawn of time.

>>718421935
The human body truly is a frail, unreliable piece of shit, yes.

>>718434803
>>718434578

>>718434635
you literally said
>it's not the jews, or nazis, or satanists, or anyone like that, it's just a bunch of faceless corporate billionaire's
The Rothschild banking dynasty are trillionaire's and they are incredibly zionist jews. Retard.
There are also the Rockefellers, Vanderbilts, various bloodlines who are always feuding

>>718409365
He's right but the problem is every single person believes they aren't part of "the masses."

>>718427451
>>718428084
>>718429068
>>718429556
>>718432883

The fate in our stars is if you were to completely disregarded any kind of JQ conspiracy stuff and just focus entirely on indiscriminately combating the issues of late-stage unregulated capitalism you'd probably eliminate/disenfranchise maybe 85-90% of the most powerful Jewish problem and end up satisfying both parties.
This isn't going to happen though for several reasons. While we can debate the extent of the JQ's existence: Jewish people and motivated financial organizations both benefit from the idea that people think the Jews run the world. Conspiracies are inherently demotivating; they simultaneously give people an outlet or permission to give up while satisfying their ego because they "have it all figured out". We also can't forget that in some capacity the people who shit and piss and moan about Jewish conspiracies do so because they're covetous of that power. Another huge aspect of conspiracy is projection; they explicitly DON'T want to take a shotgun approach to class-consciousness because it would undermine their own attempts at supremacy.

>>718435050
These retards always bitch about rich people but what they really man is middle class whites.

>>718435090
The jews greatly benefit from being the eternal victims of all those internet meanies blaming them for ever single bad thing that happens in the world.
It's even better if those meanies roleplay as nazi white supremacists.

kojima probably just read lots of books

>>718406938 (OP)
I replay MGS2 every 3 or 4 years and every time I think maybe I'll finally understand the story this time, but I never do.

>>718406938 (OP)
They read some entry level scifi novels from the 60s and 70s 80s and copied the themes.
Nothing in video games is unique, the flow of innovation goes
Books > film > TV > games

>>718406938 (OP)
This conversation proves its own point through all the retards who never even played this game and heard about it on yootoob and think it proves their point that their Facebook posts nobody gives a fuck about are getting censored while missing all the actual points about the passing on of information entirely.

>>718435050
>there are jews who are trillionares
Big fucking surprise anon, can't wait to see your reaction when you find out how much money all those arabs buying english football clubs have, or all the americans in the space industry. It's not just jews controlling the world

>>718409734
As opposed to tyrants starting retarded wars and getting 1 million+ of their troops killed for no real reason

>>718409365
That statement itself isn't wrong but its the fact that the one to execute this statement is a clique of oligarchs in charge of the US government which is one of the most evil entities to exist in recent history

>>718425773
>I'm an able-bodied productive white with a white female spouse and white child on the way
99.9% chance this post was typed with brown hands

>ctrl+f "Fukushima"
>0 results

/v/ I am disappoint.

Kojimbo didn't write the good parts of the original MGS games.

>>718425773
The German citizens that were rich enough to avoid being drafted during WW2 still got raped and killed by the Red Army all the same

>>718425109
Religion is a fundamental tool to unify a society and avert division. The division comes when multiple religions are competing to the same end. Likewise with race. A state comprised mostly of one race is less likely to suffer civil strife, so this ideal must be striven for, but many nations are multi-racial and thus doing so would incur civil conflict

>>718435748
Didn't he say that he only wrote minor dialogue and was basically his editor most of the time? Most of the memorable stuff came from the localization that Kojima hated, anyway.

There are many books about such things, Deus ex "predicted" lots of things the same way, too.

>>718435748
>>718435889
We still pretending this is true?

>>718435090
>jq is a le conspiracy... but if it were true... it's only because da white man is jealous of their moneys and power
capitalism is inherently jew-ish. were you to make any attempt at dismantling capitalism, you would find a lot of what you would call "coincidences", every root you tear out, you would find a jew.
jews have only been allowed to exist in the extent with which they have is solely because of the White man's mercy.
"conspiracy" was a term invented by the CIA to get people to discredit anyone questioning the JFK assassination (which was just confirmed to be true btw)
What's truly demoralizing is being unable to identify the root problems and acting as an agent of chaos, dismissing any and all wrongthink while thinking you're cunning for doing so as you grovel in your own filth.

>>718429358
>You could Luigi every CEO in the country and nothing would change.
Something would change, but it would probably be the Rich conspiring with the government to put everyone in chains by force to stop it, rather than whatever retarded fantasy communist scenario is in his head

>>718435598
Arabs are literally jews lmfao
Islam is literally a splinter of judaism, and they both worship the same deity (Baal)
There are also ethiopian trillionaire's who descend from the queen of sheba.
Point is, they're all Satanists, and the ONLY thing they fear and attack, is Christ our Lord.

>>718435090
I don't understand what's so complicated about
>There are people in charge of my nation who are working to destroy it
>Many of those people are of Jewish origin
>This is a poor state of affairs and should be changed by any means necessary

>>718435875
>4chin chuddie nonsense
Sounds to me like you want to be in a society surrounded by people who won't question your views. Whatever happened to all that love your neighbor stuff? Think it was on that bible book you guys like to quote so much?

>>718436095
Nawh he's right, absolutely nothing would change.
CEO's are work-slaves. Easily identifiable figureheads playing a role.

>>718423953
Our country isn't being invaded and changed by Muslims. Can you say the same, Nigel?

>>718436113
>They're all jews!!!! Except this group of people that I like because... Reasons
Do you retards even have to capability to admit being wrong? Funny how christcucks schizos and jews aren't all that different

>>718436165
I don't give a shit about any of that. A strong state that can resist outside attack is formed when as much internal strife is removed as possible.

>>718436440
>ad-hominem
I accept your concession.

>>718406938 (OP)
None of that is as smart as you think it is.

>>718407442
MGS isn't as culturally relevant as you think it is and didn't "popularize" a goddamn thing.

>>718436440
christcucks act jewish, worship a jew and then expect us to believe they're "anti-semitic"

>>718436521
It's literally what you just said though
>they're (religions I don't like) all Satanists, and the ONLY thing they fear and attack, is Christ our Lord (my religion, which is the one true religion because... It just is ok)

>>718435889
>watched the colonel speech in Japanese
>they were saying exactly the same shit
Stop parroting what you hear online, retard

>>718436604
The Jews of antiquity have zero correlation to that of the present.
Imagine not being able to conceive 2,000 years of bloodlines (which is recorded in the Catholic Church)
Imagine equating those who literally killed The Lord (pharisees) as the exact same bloodline.
Must be nice having 2 digit iq.

How does this board manage to make literally anything about jews or trannies?

>>718436712
Your argument doesn't make any sense, as you equate those who killed The Lord as the exact same bloodline and absolutely nothing splintered over 2,000 years.
Look around you, you'll find they don't give a single fuck about Krishna, Buddha, Mohammad / Allah. It's only Christ, and they ONLY invert the Bible, within everything.
Canaanite kikes.
Strange how they find the need to attack a 2,000 year old fairytale huh

>>718437136
>fullblown conspiracy nonsense now
Holy mindbreak. I just feel bad now, keep sucking off your lord if that helps you, see how much that helps

>>718436967
>The Jews of antiquity have zero correlation to that of the present
And yet you worship their king! Fascinating

>>718436791
I wasn't clear about it, but the localization stuff was from the first MGS supposedly.

What is the difference between a cult and a religion?

>>718437435
>More ad-hominem
Lol.
>>718437471
Why did Christ speak Hebrew, Aramaic & Greek if he was only preaching to the Jews, for Jews ?
Who killed Christ ?
Why did they kill Him again ?
Saving such filth onto your pc only proves you're a shill

>>718424483
>Theres a million creepy, vaguely pedophilic things airing on tv everyday
such as?

>>718437135
>How does this board manage to make literally anything about the people masterminding the entire world

>>718437653
read again>>718436712

>>718406938 (OP)
protocols of the elders of zion has been around since 1903

>>718438135
these concepts have been around much longer than that, read more

>>718438262
what difference would it make?

>>718438342
you'll be more knowledgeable than you are now, an aspect where you're clearly lacking.

>>718435875
Wouldn't that mean the entire world could be unified if people of different races inter-bred enough?

>>718436573
It predicted a terrorist attack on NYC, a large vehicle crashing into buildings, and then 9/11 became real right near the end of development.

>>718437781
Ah yes, jews and trannies are masterminding the world.

>>718438621
Not jews and trannies, but tranny jews

>>718438621
It's funny how chuds keep seething so much about trannies and jews which only ends up giving them more power by fueling their victimism

>>718406938 (OP)
>Kojima this
>Kojima that

Tomokazu Fukushima was the ghost writer and real creative mind behind, the guy just vanished after MGS2 and Kojimbo "creativity" unsurprisingly went to shit.

Amusingly, there are probably at least a dozen bots in this thread alone. Not exactly Patriots tier, but they haven't "evolved intelligence" in the primordial ooze just yet.

>>718439110
you're posting splatoon goonerslop, you haven't "evolved intelligence" yet

>>718439110
Social media has been this way for a few years now, most notably 4chan. Just look at all the posts being made daily with some generic text like ">he hasn't played [game by some big company] yet" accompanied by some generic frog image that has been posted a million times.

>>718439269
Made (You) look, friend.

>>718429316
God, to think I share this board with such iiredeemable filth.
I would spare a jew's life over yours

>>718406938 (OP)
Insane how zoomers call everything about an IQ of 10 schizo and cringe but think some videogame dialogue about technological progress and its consequences is genius.

>>718440301
maybe actually play the game then you can contribute to threads such as these without sounding like a fucking moron

>>718438518
>a terrorist attack on NYC
plenty of people speculated on an attack, particularly after the 1993 bombing. Twin Towers were iconic on every NY skyline photo, it was easy to imagine that for a target that would combine symbolic damage and mass casualties.

>>718438518
Wow a terrorist attack on the financial and cultural capital of the most important country in the world at the time. You could throw a dart at the map, and terrorists could have just as likely hit any other city. La creatividad strike again

>>718440454
i know the dialogue
it's exactly the type of shit you fags would relentlessly call schizo nonsense until it became true, then you'd pretend you actually always believed it made sense when it happens and when it's too late anyway but god forbid you admit your own normalfaggotry

>>718407651
Eh, I think most writers are just restrained by the shackles producers and publishers put on them. When you look at what some big company video game writers publish under their own name or develop as an indie studio later on, it's usually much better. In the same way stuff made by smaller, less risk averse studios usually has more decent writing.

But yeah, it's sad that even today when video games are so massive the writing standard for most of the industry is still so low.

>>718406938 (OP)
Kojima is a 33 degree mason. He knows everything years beforehand

>>718411721
>being deployed in combat magically ups your nature XP

kek you moron, refrain from posting next time please

>>718416567
there is a jewish belief that an action cannot be a sin if you warn the victim beforehand

>>718437710
>pedo looking for recommendations

>>718425773
>I'm OK now so I'll be OK tomorrow

Even for a LARP bait post this is a bit too stupid

>>718429316
kek any more tales from your illustrious life anon? Sadly enough these are the most interesting posts ITT.

You'd have to be foolish to kill Olga's child
You dont have a choice but to live

>>718406938 (OP)
The same code, the same language that allows for references to 911 and covid to happen in media before the events happen is the same thing here. Companies like konami are pozzed and in the back pocket of the same people.
The whole 'don't pass on your DNA' nonsense kojima put in things was predictive programming to get japanese to lower birth rates.

>>718423636
I went to college with his nephew really it was this japanese kid who also had the Kojima last name, we weren't close so I never really found out whether what he was claiming was true or not but this girl I dated who had dated him the year before said she saw Kojima at his family's house when I showed her a photo of him. I dunno lol

>>718440638
>i know the dialogue
you think the only interesting thing MGS2 has to say is about technological progress. this is why you shouldn't comment on threads on games you haven't played, it makes you look like a fucking idiot. which i guess might not be a bad thing considering it seems to be an accurate descriptor

>>718427341
The typical. Jews.

>>718441792
>but this girl I dated who had dated him
Holy cuck

>>718443514
kek do you only date virgins and liars?

I get it was an easy jab anon, but at least attempt to make it a funny on

>>718407884
A proper communist utopia could only exist in a science fiction setting.

>>718443920
>virgins and liars
what other kinds of women are there?

>>718423686
Yup. Anti semites will suffer now

>>718406938 (OP)
Did nothing wrong. Fuck this game for not allowing me to side with him to fight the Patriots!

>>718447050
The only thing he did wrong was raising Raiden, who would kill him.

>>718406938 (OP)
Mid-wit retards won't shut the fuck up about this, but don't acknowledge that it makes zero fucking sense, and has zero applicability in the modern day.

>>718447468
I’m not sure how you can listen to the Cambell AI speech and say that, but okay.

>>718409261
>literally outting yourself as a vapid retard
Lmao

>>718447537
Because the entire theme of it is debunked by the fact that we already have historians who "create context" and historical precedent, retard.

It's a bunch of mindless pretend-deep blather.

>>718447853
History is written by the victors and those in power, which supports what the game says. You can’t be this obtuse.

>>718415384
The china one wouldn't even work all they would have to do is talk about tiannamen and it would break lmao

>>718448016
History is entirely about perspective, and Kojima nullifies his own argument by assuming that a centralized authority can define "valuable truths" without itself becoming an engine of censorship or ideology, becoming the exact thing the AI is arguing against.

It's fucking retarded, you stupid faggot.

>>718407884
What's the problem, retard?

>>718447853
I think the comparison he's making here is to historically oppressive ruling classes. China and Stalin both created context with regards to their nations histories but that's not the same thing as an actual historian to you, is it? It's also explicitly not just about history and censorship but real time manipulation of facts and information as a means of control in the present as well as the future. I guess you could say this has also always existed but I always saw the point of having the AI and shit do that was to say that it will be worse than we could imagine before because of the increased ability of technology, like AI and the internet.

>>718407442
The idea of "evil gov" and "powerful people in the shadows controlling everything" literally exist in the Bible.

>>718407567
>Snatchers
Robots and IA are evil
>Policenauts
Robots and IA are evil
>Metal Gear
Robots and IA are evil
>Boktai
Vampires and robots are evil

>>718448720
What about death stranding

>>718436147
umm not true think about the heckin class consciousness

>>718421935
You're not as smart as you think you are.

>>718447380
He was a Big Boss clone. He was always destined to die at the hands of his "son".

>>718416261
I am fucking tired of how animation today is "adult" where characters scream the F-word, 24/7, gore and gross shit everywhere (South Park, Family Guy, Happy Tree Friends, Rick and morty)

>>718409365
Yes because this wouldn't be necessary in an all white society. But unfortunately we're plagued with the brown and black cretins.

>>718416567
The vast majority of people cannot keep secrets. And his evil plans need lots of workforce, there are chances of leaks.

>>718418880
Metal Gear world is more advanced that our world. In MGS4, the iPod was ancient shit vs the crazy tech of 1970-1990

>>718407567
>how awesome the internet was going to make the world
Boy were those retards wrong