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Anonymous No.718448947 >>718449435 >>718449468 >>718449509 >>718450237 >>718450365 >>718450626 >>718451516 >>718451870 >>718451904 >>718452587 >>718452592 >>718452786 >>718453482 >>718457343 >>718457456 >>718457592 >>718457606 >>718457686 >>718457961 >>718458062 >>718458193 >>718458270 >>718458528 >>718458538 >>718459191 >>718459457 >>718460137 >>718460358 >>718461046 >>718461127 >>718461289 >>718461392 >>718463952 >>718467835 >>718468643 >>718469236 >>718469243 >>718470312 >>718470857 >>718473057 >>718478208 >>718479495 >>718481230 >>718481806 >>718482351 >>718482661 >>718483913 >>718484056 >>718493304 >>718496628 >>718508394 >>718510057 >>718514150 >>718519097
>here's your $80 pokemon game bro
Anonymous No.718449047 >>718450051 >>718490510
I see a faggot in front of the television
Anonymous No.718449374 >>718450096
The website says it's $70 for the Switch 2 version and $60 for the Switch 1 version.
Anonymous No.718449435
>>718448947 (OP)
This shit looks so bad.
Anonymous No.718449467 >>718475516 >>718490249
>ZEH!
Anonymous No.718449468 >>718449979 >>718452545 >>718454103 >>718460359 >>718460901 >>718460920 >>718461148 >>718462325 >>718463508 >>718470184 >>718470536 >>718485462 >>718503959 >>718510450 >>718520683
>>718448947 (OP)
>Palfags so eternally mindbroken by the existence of PokΓ©mon that they'd rather make PokΓ©mon threads than talk about their own game
Damn, that's sad.
Anonymous No.718449509
>>718448947 (OP)
Pokefags still defend this dogshit dev team kek
Anonymous No.718449972 >>718487071
>that ui
Anonymous No.718449979 >>718451967
>>718449468
pathetic cope
Anonymous No.718450039
everything just looks so rigid and stuff in nu-pokemon games. like everyone is a robot and learning to walk for the first time.
Anonymous No.718450051 >>718459369
>>718449047
turn on your television
Anonymous No.718450069 >>718450304 >>718450484 >>718450818 >>718452925 >>718457508 >>718460198 >>718460375 >>718461028 >>718461289 >>718466360 >>718467835 >>718469882 >>718472103 >>718477997 >>718482128 >>718483624 >>718485814 >>718494934 >>718520212 >>718522436
Digimon won.
Anonymous No.718450096 >>718452870
>>718449374
Oh boy i get to save 10 bucks
Anonymous No.718450237
>>718448947 (OP)
What ps2 game is this?
Anonymous No.718450304 >>718450491
>>718450069
Holy Soul.
When does this come out again?
Anonymous No.718450365
>>718448947 (OP)
Why did they give it an anus ?
Anonymous No.718450484 >>718450539 >>718450632 >>718451804 >>718452374 >>718452695 >>718457767 >>718458319 >>718458479 >>718459985 >>718460729 >>718460936 >>718463551 >>718466649 >>718468206 >>718468329 >>718500262 >>718517924
>>718450069
Why was digimon even losing in the first place if they could do this
Anonymous No.718450491
>>718450304
In like month and a half.
Anonymous No.718450539 >>718463021
>>718450484
Because this is the first time Bandai gave them a budget bigger than 1000 dollars.
Anonymous No.718450626 >>718451719
>>718448947 (OP)
>confirmed to be the future of all mainline Pokemon games
>turn based is literally doomed to be in champions forever
That explains the palworld lawsuit I guess. Gamefreak is out of ideas and their other project announced to save their image was confirmed to be outsourced to both Take-Two and Tose in development job websites
Anonymous No.718450632
>>718450484
They were just bidding their time for Nintendo to be at their weakest.
Anonymous No.718450818 >>718451749 >>718463662 >>718482128 >>718483624
>>718450069
I like the song that plays in that preview, in fact all the songs I have heard so far has been quite good.
Anonymous No.718451516
>>718448947 (OP)
>teleports you
>nothing perzehnal kid
Anonymous No.718451719 >>718461451
>>718450626
Wait where did they confirm gen 10 and beyond are going to be like this ARPG shit?
Anonymous No.718451749
>>718450818
Holy soul
Anonymous No.718451804
>>718450484
Because no one cares about Digimon
Anonymous No.718451870 >>718451992 >>718452020 >>718457762
>>718448947 (OP)
Why do they NEED to put out a game every single goddamn year? Pokemon isn't going anywhere, just do cards and tv stuff for a while and actually cook the games.
Anonymous No.718451904 >>718452105 >>718514150
>>718448947 (OP)
Is this some sort of encoding issue or is the game blending frames together?
Anonymous No.718451967
>>718449979
It is pathetic cope from paljobbers
Anonymous No.718451992 >>718453429
>>718451870
>Why do they NEED to put out a game every single goddamn year?
anon.....we haven't had a Pokemon game in 3 years. this is the result of "letting them cook" like the zoomies say
Anonymous No.718452020
>>718451870
>Why do they NEED to put out a game every single goddamn year?
That's the best part, this shitheap is the result of not putting out a game every year.
Anonymous No.718452105
>>718451904
Doesn't look like blending. It's probably a bug with the textures they're using as window lights
Anonymous No.718452374
>>718450484
Bamco never put much budget/effort in until this one, they barely tried on the GBA/DS/PS2/PSP. The main Digimon World games were all wildly different from each other, and have some issue that makes them a pain to playthrough.
Anonymous No.718452484 >>718452986 >>718468354 >>718477806 >>718478183 >>718483037
ZEH!
Anonymous No.718452545
>>718449468
>B-But Palworld...!!
Being a pokefag is a mental illness at this point, huh?
Anonymous No.718452587
>>718448947 (OP)
The only good pokemon product is the manga
Anonymous No.718452592 >>718452986 >>718468354
>>718448947 (OP)
>ZEH
Anonymous No.718452653
>criticizing OUR GAME
are you one of those palworldfags? CRINGE
what about PALWORLD btw???
Anonymous No.718452695 >>718453013
>>718450484
Genuine opinion: I think the PSP and the Vita retarded Japanese game design by at least 10 years. They got so heavily focused on the PS Vita-style Visual Novel + Bland 3D corridors that infested at least 90% of their titles that they started fucking up games that could have been great otherwise JUST IN CASE they needed to make a Vita port down the line for a few extra yen. Everything between 2008-2018 that made it to a Sony console is slow, poorly animated, overly smooth and blank polygons + lip-flapping JPGs and text. Probably the darkest time period in gaming.
Anonymous No.718452786
>>718448947 (OP)
>ZEH

What did he mean by this?
Anonymous No.718452870 >>718453050 >>718454121 >>718455807
>>718450096
Interesting. I believe I'm saving $130, plus tax
Anonymous No.718452925
>>718450069
>Digimon won.
Namco bandai doesn't give a shit aboit digimon. It never had sales, and most digimon designs are forgettable.
Anonymous No.718452986
>>718452484
>>718452592
funny cunts
Anonymous No.718453013 >>718453480
>>718452695
I spit on your genuine opinion.
Anonymous No.718453050
>>718452870
I am saving 1000$ plus tax, by not buying both switches.
Anonymous No.718453429 >>718465664
>>718451992
DLCs count as more work on the games. Pokemon hasn't had a more than a year to breathe anything until last year, since Obama was president.

These generations don't even give their main game time to breath just blasting to the next one. Every gen gets less and less time to BE a gen. Gen 3 had two gap years, Gen 7 and 8 never did.

They need to take some time off and cook for the mainline generations. They're not losing the market by NOT coming back with a main game for MORE than one christmas season. Look how long DK cooked on a 3d platformer. This is clearly running too fast for the games to get comfortable with multigenerational 3d models.
Anonymous No.718453480 >>718453510
>>718453013
I'd spit on your Vita, but that would only serve to improve the overall device.
Anonymous No.718453482
>>718448947 (OP)
>nintendo 64 graphics in the year 2025
>nintendo fans get excited about this
why cant they atleast make it look like botw or genshin?
Anonymous No.718453510
>>718453480
>redditor believes every anon is the same
rope, now.
Anonymous No.718453628 >>718453821 >>718457219 >>718467730 >>718519553
Do GameFreak not have storyboards for their cutscenes? How is more poorly directed than fucking Sonic Adventure DX.
Anonymous No.718453821 >>718495606
>>718453628
they know pokefags will consoom anyway
/vp/ zooms are saying this is the best game ever and that the combat is super good and they haven't even played it yet.
Anonymous No.718454103
>>718449468
the real sad thing is how you don't even try to defend this turd, because you know very well it is shit.
Anonymous No.718454121
>>718452870
This is your brain on antipiracy
Anonymous No.718455807
>>718452870
what about the dlc
Anonymous No.718457219
>>718453628
Poketards are the worst subhumans in vidya
Anonymous No.718457287 >>718457808
Zoroark
Anonymous No.718457343 >>718457442 >>718482410
>>718448947 (OP)

Why does the dog have a green asshole?
Anonymous No.718457442
>>718457343
The same reason Tornadus Therian has an erect red penis.
Anonymous No.718457456 >>718470415
>>718448947 (OP)
>so lazy they just animate a first person camera turn to point at a roof
>they can't even be bothered to animate their Pokemon doing things like JUMPING
How did it get this bad? Do they even employ game developers?
Anonymous No.718457508 >>718458321 >>718463662 >>718477301 >>718478178 >>718482128 >>718482363 >>718482572 >>718483624
>>718450069
Anonymous No.718457559 >>718458473
I'm not the only one who always found the combat mediocre am I? Your starter Pokemon gets so strong you just one shot every other Pokemon, That's been my experience with 3 mainline games through 20 years
Anonymous No.718457561 >>718457924 >>718463662 >>718472103 >>718479008 >>718488532
hi
:)
Anonymous No.718457592 >>718458450
>>718448947 (OP)
>$80 for a ps3 game
fucking nenkekdo i kneel
Anonymous No.718457606 >>718492450
>>718448947 (OP)
Gamefreak is all the way checked out when making these games. There's no passion for games to be found here. Only slop made by wageslaves.
Anonymous No.718457686
>>718448947 (OP)
Gaming died when this " sleek" copy/paste soulless UI design became the norm
Anonymous No.718457762
>>718451870
>actually cook the games
more time = better product is a retarded fallacy. great games can be made in short timeframes with proper resources and management. there are many examples of games being in development hell and then finally releasing as a gigantic piece of shit. if anything, repeated delays and long development times are a red flag that developement is being managed like shit and there are many issues.
Anonymous No.718457767
>>718450484
Actual answer: pokemon mogged digimon on the musical front.

Not just the games either, the early anime basically ripped off MJ and made a bunch of great tunes in his style. The power of music should not be underestimated.
Anonymous No.718457793
green butthole
Anonymous No.718457808
>>718457287
wife
Anonymous No.718457924
>>718457561
That's cute as shit
GF is right to fear them
Anonymous No.718457961
>>718448947 (OP)
100.000.000.000$ franchise, btw.
Anonymous No.718458062
>>718448947 (OP)
pokefans would but it if the box only contained literal shit
Anonymous No.718458193
>>718448947 (OP)
Pokemon died after gen 2.
Anonymous No.718458270
>>718448947 (OP)
picked up
Anonymous No.718458319
>>718450484
Bandai FUCKING Namco
>Smorr indie comprany sho shorry
I truly hate them
Anonymous No.718458321 >>718458432 >>718459321
>>718457508
how many monster models does digimon has right now?
Anonymous No.718458326 >>718458413
paljeets lost
let it go
Anonymous No.718458359 >>718458653 >>718469917
Shouldn't it say "ZY!" rather than "ZEH!"?
Anonymous No.718458413
>>718458326
palworld won
palchads won
eric won
micrsoft gamepass won
sony won


shitendo losted
pokemon shitted vomit losted
pokemon za losted
shitch 2 losted
Anonymous No.718458432 >>718460084
>>718458321
450
Anonymous No.718458450 >>718458624
>>718457592
PS3? Nigga PS3 mogs the shit out of those graphics. So does PS2. This sorry ass game is one step above Spyro.
Anonymous No.718458473
>>718457559
You gotta play the pokemon mods for interesting gameplay.
Anonymous No.718458479
>>718450484
Because bandai namco.
If it's not Tekken it doesn't get the budget.
Anonymous No.718458528 >>718459284 >>718520727
>>718448947 (OP)
...why does it have a gemussy.
Anonymous No.718458538
>>718448947 (OP)
Wow, it's like they're games made for kids who don't give a shit or something
Anonymous No.718458624 >>718458769
>>718458450
>I am 12 and I will namedrop old boomer shit I know nothing abut to fit in.
not really skibibidi rabubu my crocodilo bombardo friendo
Anonymous No.718458653
>>718458359
it's Pokemon Zed, and the full name is ZEgarD
Anonymous No.718458769 >>718459216
>>718458624
This is a pretty retarded post lil bro. Imma give you a mulligan to come at me correctly this time, gay nigga
Anonymous No.718459191
>>718448947 (OP)
Where's your game snoy?
Anonymous No.718459216
>>718458769
And yet nothing in it is wrong. Keep yapping
Anonymous No.718459284
>>718458528
green gem cookie...
Anonymous No.718459321 >>718460084
>>718458321
The new game has 451 base game + 15 from planned DLC
Anonymous No.718459369
>>718450051
Zing
Anonymous No.718459457
>>718448947 (OP)
I don't know how Pokefags do it. It's like Gamefreak is intentionally shitting slop down their throats for some bizarre experiment to see where the limit is, but they just keep slurping it down.
Anonymous No.718459985 >>718460441 >>718466649 >>718480148
>>718450484
Because Americans are ridiculously obsessed with brand and Digimon happened to come second and forever be branded as "the knockoff"

See also Americans keeping Nintendo alive during the N64 catastrophe because they saw PlayStation as the knockoff despite it being superior on every front, and making Apple the most valuable company on the planet despite cheaper and better alternatives existing for all of their offerings
Anonymous No.718460084 >>718461073
>>718458432
>>718459321
That's the monster count. Removing the recolors we know about it's probably something like 400.
Anonymous No.718460137
>>718448947 (OP)
it will sadly sell millions regardless
Anonymous No.718460198
>>718450069
Every Pokemon-like game has been better than Pokemon for ages. Doesn't matter because pokefags don't buy them.
Anonymous No.718460358
>>718448947 (OP)
ohnonononononono
Anonymous No.718460359
>>718449468
>out of thin air
Anonymous No.718460375 >>718460563
>>718450069
Reading the replies to this just makes me sad. Where did people's standards go?
Anonymous No.718460441 >>718460460 >>718460512
>>718459985
Digimon predates Pokemon though..
Anonymous No.718460460
>>718460441
Which it doesn't.
Anonymous No.718460512
>>718460441
>unironic fake fans
Kek
Anonymous No.718460563
>>718460375
You're saying that like they had standards in the first place.
Anonymous No.718460729 >>718460840
>>718450484
It looked stupid as hell and the anime wasn't very catchy.
Anonymous No.718460840
>>718460729
>all interesting designs turn into generic humans in armor
never stood a chance
Anonymous No.718460901 >>718460971
>>718449468
>PalGODS out of nowhere
Anonymous No.718460920 >>718460971
>>718449468
Palworld really mindbroke tendies, huh?
Anonymous No.718460936
>>718450484
>if they could do this
Believe it or not dressing up a mediocre game doesn't actually make the game any better, it's the exact opposite of pokemon.
With pokemon you have a solid game that looks like shit with a lot of content and monsters.
With Digimon as of TS and most other monster tamers you have a game that looks okay but has some ungodly boring and repetitive gameplay with nothing else besides that to break up the monotony. Not to mention from what we've seen of TS the areas still look extremely linear rather than wider spaces to actually justify riding Digimon.
Anonymous No.718460971
>>718460901
>>718460920
How many times are you going to reply to your own post
Anonymous No.718461028 >>718462369
>>718450069
I was more into PokΓ©mon as a kid, so I don’t know anything about Digimon, but I know there’s thousands of them and some of them have distinct personalities and have god like power.

I dont understand, are there multiple of a single Digimon like you can get multiple Pikachu? Or are they unique characters where only one exists?
Anonymous No.718461046 >>718465581
>>718448947 (OP)
What am i looking at?
What the fuck is happening?
Anonymous No.718461073 >>718461549
>>718460084
I was curious so I tried to count them
9 from Black agu/gabumon, 4 from Ogre/Goburimon, 2 from Gotsumon

In OP list
Lopmon/Muchomon/Solarmon
Mudfrigimon/Coredramon/Black Tailmon/Icedevimon/Geremon/Guardromon Gold
Waruseadramon/Bluemeramon/Panjyamon/Gigadramon/Rapidmon Armor

Not shown in TS yet but in HM, I probably missed some
Gold Numemon/Plat Sukamon/Sorcerimon/Kuzuhamon

I think that's 33, yeah it will be about 410-415 models by the end
Anonymous No.718461109
As long as zoomers keep buying pokeslop and pokeslop merch, we're going to get exclusively more low effort pokeslop.
Anonymous No.718461127 >>718461215
>>718448947 (OP)
I haven't bought a single new Pokemon game since I tried Pokemon Sword and Shield.
And it seems it was the correct choice.
Anonymous No.718461148
>>718449468
>chadworld literally out of nowhere
do tendiejeets really just bring up whatever they're obsessed with anytime someone criticizes their slop?
Anonymous No.718461215
>>718461127
Should have stopped with the handheld games.
Anonymous No.718461289
>>718448947 (OP)
>>718450069
these both look equally impressive to me, which is to say not at all
Anonymous No.718461392
>>718448947 (OP)
And i thought falcom was bad at animations
Anonymous No.718461451
>>718451719
They never said that. Retards think because VGC will use Pokemon champions means that they will change the main series combat to be the same as the legends one.
Anonymous No.718461549
>>718461073
You forgot Superstarmon and Pandamon
Anonymous No.718462325 >>718462397
>>718449468
PalCHADs…DigiCHADs…the Pokefags are crying!
Anonymous No.718462369
>>718461028
It’s species, not individual.
Anonymous No.718462397 >>718462625
>>718462325
digimon is cool
pokemon is cool
palworld sucks cocks
Anonymous No.718462625 >>718478382 >>718488782
>>718462397
>pokemon is [cope]
That shit hasn’t even been remotely good since Gen V. Well over a decade ago. Shit postgame, terrible models, dex cut, worsening human and pokemon designs since Gen 9, awful animations, way too overpriced for the quality,

The highest grossing multimedia franchise in the history of the world, worth over $100 billion dollars. Unreal.
Anonymous No.718463021
>>718450539
1000 dollars? What do you need 100 dollars for? You mean to tell me you want 10 dollars for your little game? Can't believe you are asking me for my last dollar bill. Best I can do is this almost expired Starbucks coupon. WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S USED?
Anonymous No.718463508
>>718449468
KEK.
Tendies are still butthurt...
Anonymous No.718463551
>>718450484
Tendies are numerous and they buy anything.
Anonymous No.718463662
>>718457508
>>718450818
>>718457561
ZEH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ZEH
Anonymous No.718463897
The digimon game is looking far better ngl
Anonymous No.718463952
>>718448947 (OP)
Z E H
E
H
Anonymous No.718464124
Pokemon just keeps on winning.
Anonymous No.718465581 >>718466223
>>718461046
he's complaining about the animation being "lazy"
Anonymous No.718465664
>>718453429
Also this doesn't include mobile games, but eh.
Anonymous No.718466223
>>718465581
>"lazy"
Tendies: "Small Indie Company, please understand!"
Anonymous No.718466360 >>718466695 >>718467260
>>718450069
never watched or played Digimon. What's their gimmick?
Anonymous No.718466649
>>718450484
For me, I grew up with both the OG Pokemon and Digimon shows, but I don't know, I ended up going with Pokemon more because I guess I got annoyed by how unpredictable the digivolving was and how repetitive the animation was when it happened.
I dropped out of the show after the first series ended and stuck with Pokemon, but over the years I kept coming back to try Digimon out again only to THEN get annoyed by some of the anime trope shit like villains digivolving at the last second because ??? shonen anime trope???

I think the unpredictable digivolution thing bothered normalfags too, people getting weirded out by how a little cat thing can become a straight-up biblical angel with big boobs, or a cute flower thing turning into a cartoon cactus turning into a fairy, that kind of stuff.
Like, seriously, you have to picture the idea of someone going "oh, cute bunny" and then a couple digivolutions later, it's not a bunny at all and now it's a salaryman with a chainsaw and a robotic eye because ??? and then he digivolves again and now it's a busty dominatrix with chainsaws for arms.
With Pokemon, 99% of the time you can kinda see how [x] becomes [y] and then [z], and I think that makes them more appealing to a lot of people, it feels like they're "growing up".

>>718459985
Nah, surprisingly Digimon wasn't really viewed as a "knockoff" by too many people back then, and it felt "apples & oranges" to me. You either liked the more "anime" vibes of Digimon, or you liked the "cartoon" vibes of Pokemon. Digimon not having a solid game to compete against Pokemon's RBY was the nail in the coffin, TBQH.
Can't speak for the N64-PS1 war since our family kinda did both and most of the arguments back then were about exclusives, not some corporate labeling shenanigans.
The Apple vs everyone else thing was because they had excellent marketing and because they were the first to come up with a solid smartphone design so they got a huge head start despite being a shit company.
Anonymous No.718466684 >>718466713
After finally trying a pokemon romhack recently I don't understand how game freak devs haven't literally died of shame because they're getting mogged by random fans with autism.
Anonymous No.718466695
>>718466360
They can evolve into multiple different things. Evolution is less of a straight line and more of an interconnected web.
Anonymous No.718466713 >>718469060
>>718466684
No one is buying your shitty romhack.
Anonymous No.718466847
I'm glad I checked out of Pokemon.
The series has been unrepentant dogshit since they went 3D.
Anonymous No.718467260 >>718467507
>>718466360
virtual pet that evolves depending on how you raise it
so you start out with this blob, it evolves into a little weiner dog with wings on its head
then you train that a bunch and depending on what stats you raised and how much you fed it becomes a fat dinosaur, a unicorn or some angel dude or something else
then those have a bunch of branching evolutions and so on, some of them converging again (for example your unicorn and angel dude can both evolve into a phoenix)

sadly a lot of digimon games seem to neglect said concept in favour of wanking the "canon" evo lines from the anime
Anonymous No.718467507 >>718467854 >>718468013
>>718467260
Probably because dreaded "canon" lines are what most people prefer.
Anonymous No.718467730 >>718468659
>>718453628
why bother putting in actual effort when your retarded fanbase will eat up whatever slop you slap the pokemon label on
Anonymous No.718467835
>>718448947 (OP)
>copies sold: well over a million in just a few days
>>718450069
>copies sold: 100k in 6 months
Anonymous No.718467854
>>718467507
Unfortunate but true. It's disheartening the amount of NPCs who get to the climactic evolution sequence in Chapter 1 of Survive and go "wuhhh? huhhh? wat is a 'teeranomon'?? hwere is gaymon from advenchure??"
Anonymous No.718467976
Fully modeled cookie.
Anonymous No.718468013
>>718467507
greymon's cool and all, it just gets kinda old working towards twelve different flavors of omegamon and imperialdramon as your ultimate endgame for the umpteenth time
feels like a waste of the concept
Anonymous No.718468206 >>718469680 >>718487282 >>718494657
>>718450484
Budget.
Anonymous No.718468329 >>718468423
>>718450484
Digimon look like shit compared to the iconic 'mons.
Anonymous No.718468354
>>718452484
>>718452592
Thank you. Now I can leave the thread.
Anonymous No.718468423 >>718468482 >>718468524 >>718492724
>>718468329
You dislike soul?
Anonymous No.718468482
>>718468423
Looks like something you'd find printed on a pencil case from the dollar store.
Anonymous No.718468524
>>718468423
garbage pail kids ass
Anonymous No.718468643 >>718468913 >>718469040 >>718469180
>>718448947 (OP)
>$80
>Can't stop himself from lying in the 3rd word of his OP
>I-I-I JUST WANTED TO CRITICISE, YOU STUPID CULTISTS!
Anonymous No.718468659 >>718472103
>>718467730
>why bother putting in actual effort when your retarded competition refuses to do better than your worst
Ftfy
Anonymous No.718468913 >>718469320
>>718468643
You cultists would be funny if there weren’t so many of you.
Anonymous No.718469040
>>718468643
>heh it's actually $79.99 (plus tip) you have been DEBUNKED
Anonymous No.718469060 >>718520213
>>718466713
Yea it was free
Anonymous No.718469180 >>718469320
>>718468643
Would you drink bleach if it was branded pokemon?
Anonymous No.718469236
>>718448947 (OP)
Wait this is the new one ? Legends Z or whatever? Not a S/V shitpost? Holy fuck tendies are fried
Anonymous No.718469243 >>718470137 >>718482797
>>718448947 (OP)
Don't care about graphics, just tell me if the game is good or not.
Anonymous No.718469320 >>718469420 >>718469640 >>718470048 >>718470530
>>718468913
>>718469180
Try coming up with actual arguments instead of lying then getting piss mad and yelling CULTIST CULTIST when you get called out
Anonymous No.718469420 >>718469706 >>718470101
>>718469320
I literally want you people to have better games then you get you start getting defensive like this and out yourself as no better than an Apple/Disney cultist
Anonymous No.718469474
This was the only sw2 game I was wanting to play, but holy shit, every time they show something it looks even worse, and never forget the fucking plain buildings with a mere texture on top, even ps1 games had better buildings...
Anonymous No.718469640
>>718469320
call the cult help hotline asap anon
masuda doesn't browse /v/ you'll be safe
Anonymous No.718469680 >>718470162 >>718470379 >>718470519 >>718471830 >>718518052
>>718468206
>digimon cyber sleuth is on sale on switch
>buy it
>start new game
>hit with a sloooooow unskippable cutscene
>put game down and walk away
>come back 4 minutes later
>unskippable cutscene still fucking going
>quit to home screen and uninstall
Seriously, it doesn't matter how good your game is, if you do this shit nobody is going to fucking play it
Anonymous No.718469706 >>718469760
>>718469420
>I literally want you people to have better games
What does lying about the price accomplish, then?
Anonymous No.718469760
>>718469706
it makes him feel better about not being able to afford it
Anonymous No.718469882
>>718450069
This is clearly going to be just hallways and the digimon hanging out are either going to be uninteractable or just have a ZEH! line of dialogue
Anonymous No.718469917
>>718458359
anime voices aren't canon
Anonymous No.718470048 >>718470201
>>718469320
If they could make up arguments they wouldn't be going
>GAEM BAD LOOK GRAPHIX
like the cavemen they are.
Anonymous No.718470101
>>718469420
>I literally want you people to have better games
Do you know what a better game would be? Have you put any thought into that at all?
Anonymous No.718470137 >>718471026
>>718469243
You had 13 years straight of garbage games, how do you think the next will be?
Anonymous No.718470162
>>718469680
don't play JRPGs
Anonymous No.718470184 >>718485553
>>718449468
They'll call you a palfag, but never a liar.
Anonymous No.718470201 >>718470457
>>718470048
>xhe thinks only the graphic are shit
LMAO
Anonymous No.718470312
>>718448947 (OP)
Who cares? Grafixfags are sub 100 iq mobkeyniggers
Anonymous No.718470379 >>718471297
>>718469680
Thing is, CS isn't even good. The environments are mostly the same visually, the dungeons are hyper linear, a solid chunk of the roster are recolors and for the most part they all share animations with the exception of a few unique moves and even though it's the least grindy game in the series so far it's still an absolute chore to evolve mon up and down evo lines for specific skills and to raise their ability stat.
I like the game and all but if I weren't a bandai Digimon slut I would definitely hate it and would just opt for pokemon where I'm getting a better game with a varied roster and environments but with the caveat of slightly worse graphics
Anonymous No.718470415
>>718457456
Nintendo knows pokemon sells so they don't have to make any effort. People will purchase the game and adamantly defend it despite glaring flaws. See: the past 5 years of pokemon releases.
Anonymous No.718470457 >>718471596
>>718470201
Okay, what else is?
Keep in mind that you have to avoid mentioning anything that overlaps with Digimon.
Anonymous No.718470519
>>718469680
Ignore the Digishitters. They parade around mediocre trash like its pure gold because they're so used to liquid shit.

I made the same mistake with Digimon Survive, deep story my ass. More like repetitive poorly designed trash.
Anonymous No.718470530
>>718469320
Hope Nintendo sees this unc
Anonymous No.718470536
>>718449468
>palworld out of nowhere
Rent free
Anonymous No.718470857
>>718448947 (OP)
>80
retard
Anonymous No.718471026 >>718471661 >>718472072
>>718470137
>POKEMON = LE BAD BECAUSE MY STREAMIES MAD THEY CANT PROFIT OFF OF SOMEONE ELSES INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY
meanwhile in reality all the games were pretty comfy
Anonymous No.718471062 >>718471415
Why are tendies so sure that no other game will be $80? They adamantly refuse to believe it. Then you show them $80 Kirby (lmfaooo btw) or $80 Mario party and they come up with so many copes.
The only reason this slop is $70 is thanks to the switch 1. Tendies gonna be paying $160 for both versions in like a year or two.
Anonymous No.718471297
>>718470379
It's funny because Pokemon haters don't play either Pokemon, not the games that are supposedly better.

I liked Cyber Sleuth but got really bored doing the same side quests and running back and forth through the same blue corridor "dungeons"
Anonymous No.718471415
>>718471062
1. The game is already being sold (preorders) for $70
2. There is only one version of this game.

Have some basic understanding of the thing you want to shitpost about.
Anonymous No.718471596 >>718472412
>>718470457
>One empty and lifeless map
>Shitty combat system
>Terrible art direction
Just these should be enough to mark the game as shit, but I bet you'll say something like "the game is not out yet", "did you try it already?" or "im gonna buy it anyway because i'll have fun" like the good paypig you are
Anonymous No.718471661 >>718472067
>>718471026
If you have a rotted brain maybe, yes, you could find them good
Anonymous No.718471830
>>718469680
>playing jrpg
>skip
are u retarded?
Anonymous No.718471943
>Game as Gardevoir
>I buy it
simple as
Anonymous No.718472067
>>718471661
name 44 things that were objectively about them
Anonymous No.718472072
>>718471026
>meanwhile in reality all the games were pretty comfy
No they suck ass
Anonymous No.718472103 >>718472606
>>718468659
>These are apparently worse than what pokeman has to offer >>718450069 >>718457561
Anonymous No.718472165
poketurds are the down syndromed step child of the nintendo family
Anonymous No.718472412
>>718471596
So your answer is to just name random things without even naming the specific game you're talking about and complaining about a combat system which may or may not be shared with the digimon story games albeit in a simplified state depending on the game you're talking about?
I don't know why I expected more from you.
Anonymous No.718472606 >>718472758 >>718475772 >>718518536
>>718472103
Yes. Yes they are, you have Digimon just sitting there doing nothing but hopping or following a track like a gen 1 pokemon game and a generic squid girl.

Maybe it's because I'm not a zoomer but I'm not impressed by pretty colors and excessive bloom. But hey, what do I know I just have actual standards.
Anonymous No.718472758
>>718472606
>in 4 b-but pokemon looks like shit you cultist!
Anonymous No.718473057 >>718473827
>>718448947 (OP)
Pokemon is the jankiest and shittiest looking Nintendo game. I will never understand why when all other Nintendo games at least have that Nintendo polish.
Anonymous No.718473827
>>718473057
Well that explains why you won't get it, you're an actual tendie.
Anonymous No.718475516
>>718449467
>
Anonymous No.718475772 >>718477195
>>718472606
>what do I know I just have actual standards.
then why you play Pokemon?
Anonymous No.718477195
>>718475772
Shouldn't you be asking yourself that?
It's the only tamer you've ever played after all.
Anonymous No.718477301 >>718477392
>>718457508
post the few new mons
Anonymous No.718477392
>>718477301
Anonymous No.718477475
I hope the Pulsemon line is in.
Anonymous No.718477646 >>718478135
>SAAAR PALWORLD BAD!
is there any other game that mindraped all the ninjeets this hard?
Anonymous No.718477806
>>718452484
kek
Anonymous No.718477997
>>718450069
It looks nice, but is there a single person who even cares about Digimon?
Anonymous No.718478135
>>718477646
You're the only one talking about Palworld.
Anonymous No.718478178 >>718485148
>>718457508
>tittyboobies
Ok what kind of game is this? I want to play it now.
Anonymous No.718478183
>>718452484
kek
Anonymous No.718478208
>>718448947 (OP)
Man this looks worse than those shovelwares like nu Harvest Moon
Anonymous No.718478382 >>718478898 >>718479210
>>718462625
Have you ever seen a show on its 20th+ season and thought β€œWho is still watching this?”. That’s Pokemon. The games are made with minimum effort because they’ve got a locked in audience that will stick with them no matter what. The games only exist to keep the brand alive in the public consciousness. To occupy space on shelves and score an impulse buy.
Anonymous No.718478898 >>718479030
>>718478382
There's two problems with that logic. While pokemon is almost 30 years old it's only on a technical 9th game and as a game it surpasses others in it's genre in every area other than graphics.
Anonymous No.718479008
>>718457561
impressive, this one doesn't look like it's ripping off any existing pokemon, a first for palworld
Anonymous No.718479030 >>718479576
>>718478898
>as a game it surpasses others in it's genre in every area other than graphics.
No it doesn't, the gameplay has been boring and way too easy for 25 years now
Anonymous No.718479210
>>718478382
if pokemon's minimum effort then what are the other people even doing, eating boogers and drawing with crayons?
Anonymous No.718479495
>>718448947 (OP)
Full demo
>https://youtu.be/xTbBSDeOKck?si=JNyAIoozIKLMZYiz
Anonymous No.718479576 >>718479746
>>718479030
And yet here you are unable to say how that's even the case.
You can call it boring but just about every other monster tamer series uses a similar type based combat system albeit with less elements to play around with. Most don't even have abilities, hell, SMT which is a much older series only added them with V.

You don't have any real standards, nor do you care for this anon. You just hate pokemon for being popular.
Anonymous No.718479746 >>718489161 >>718490132
>>718479576
>n-no, pokemon is actually a hard game, don't you know how difficult it is to get through it?
You don't need to be disingenuous all your life, drop the shit for once
Anonymous No.718480148
>>718459985
I dunno, kids around here saw Yugioh as the knock-off because it was a card game like Pokemon. Digimon was seen as it's own thing because it monetized differently.
Anonymous No.718481230
>>718448947 (OP)
why is its asshole green?
Anonymous No.718481378
How do you create a cult of fans? I too would like to scam people like nintendo does.
Anonymous No.718481806
>>718448947 (OP)
based pokearchitects making manchildren online seethe
Anonymous No.718482074
i can not buy this crap holy shit this is insanly bad
Anonymous No.718482128 >>718490892
>>718450069
>>718450818
>>718457508
>no switch version
what were they thinking?
Anonymous No.718482245 >>718482704 >>718494541
never forget how much effort has gone into this series for the last decade
Anonymous No.718482351
>>718448947 (OP)
Why does Pokemon get away with having PS2 graphics in 2025?
Anonymous No.718482363
>>718457508
>boobs and guns
based digimon
Anonymous No.718482410
>>718457343
Anonymous No.718482572 >>718518448
>>718457508
>robot dinossaurs, ninjas, guns and hot babes
Wait so was digimon just Pokemon for people with high testosterone this whole time?
Have i been sleeping on the GOAT?
Anonymous No.718482661
>>718448947 (OP)
Why would you play Pokemon when MH stories exist
Anonymous No.718482704 >>718485802
>>718482245
The problem is that these moves have to be able to be used by every pokemon. Signature moves always have unique animation. Eevee's custom z move has a really cool animation
Anonymous No.718482797
>>718469243
You have 4 moves and you can hold 6 pokemon
Anonymous No.718483037
>>718452484
Anonymous No.718483624 >>718484001
>>718450069
>>718450818
>>718457508
I shouldn't be hype.
But I'm hype.
Fuck.
Here's hoping for a Liberator DLC eventually.
Anonymous No.718483913
>>718448947 (OP)
Nice Switch shirt cattle
Anonymous No.718484001 >>718484152
>>718483624
what's the female monster called?
Anonymous No.718484056
>>718448947 (OP)
Can't wait
Anonymous No.718484152
>>718484001
Medusamon. Lamiamon's evolution.
Anonymous No.718485148
>>718478178
3 niggas in a row JRPG
Anonymous No.718485462
>>718449468
Meds, nigger
Anonymous No.718485553
>>718470184
No need to, too obvious
Anonymous No.718485802 >>718485987 >>718486556
>>718482704
God forbid a multi-billion dollar franchise actually put the effort in to customize every Pokemon. Smarru indie company
Anonymous No.718485814
>>718450069
Always did.
Anonymous No.718485987
>>718485802
Plz understand gale of darkness lost technology small indie company lost the capability to replicate
Anonymous No.718486556
>>718485802
Why?
Tendies will buy anyway. Why put the effort?
Anonymous No.718487071
>>718449972
looks like an iphone game in graphics and ui.
Anonymous No.718487282
>>718468206
This meme was made by a Pokefag that never played Cyber Sleuth. There's a lot of dishonesty here like acting like the rest of the animations in Cyber Sleuth besides the one unique aren't universal, or saying that character is your rival when that's not really their story role at all.
Anonymous No.718488532
>>718457561
Palworld I kneel...
Anonymous No.718488782 >>718516859
>>718462625
>That shit hasn’t even been remotely good since Gen V
Unovafags are the biggest cultists in the Pokemon fandom.
Anonymous No.718489161
>>718479746
You know you're just proving the point right?
I mean, what exactly do you define as difficulty? Using a dampener and getting free turns in a HP bloated boss or using so many speed buffs that your opponent doesn't get a turn?
Anonymous No.718489371 >>718490547 >>718490584 >>718490687
Anonymous No.718490132 >>718517441
>>718479746
Play multiplayer you dumb scrub.
Anonymous No.718490249
>>718449467
Anonymous No.718490510
>>718449047
there are at least two
Anonymous No.718490547
>>718489371
Glorious.
Anonymous No.718490584
>>718489371
SEXO
Anonymous No.718490687
>>718489371
god damn
Anonymous No.718490892 >>718491490 >>718502001
>>718482128
why would you want to play it at 30fps 800p
Anonymous No.718490989
>game have romance option
When?
Anonymous No.718491490 >>718514150
>>718490892
Anonymous No.718491604 >>718494956
is there a digimon called pokemon?
Anonymous No.718492319
Glad to see the dexcut is helping in the arduous task of not improving the games.
Anonymous No.718492450 >>718502654 >>718503251
>>718457606
It doesn't help they are kneecapped by the hardware, but yeah GF is just hitting the button for the food pellet at this point.
Anonymous No.718492549 >>718493623 >>718494956 >>718496868
Anonymous No.718492724
>>718468423
That looks like a sticker sheet you would get in grade school for reading 3 books over the summer.
Anonymous No.718493124 >>718502797
>digimon v pokemon shitflinging again
Anonymous No.718493304 >>718493813 >>718498237 >>718499064 >>718502649 >>718514150
>>718448947 (OP)
How is it even possible that they've improved nothing? This looks just as shit as Scarlet and Violet.
Anonymous No.718493623
>>718492549
Kek
Anonymous No.718493813 >>718494094
>>718493304
Animation aside that design is really bad
Anonymous No.718494094
>>718493813
Yes. The art style of these games is what truly kills them. Everything is ugly.
Anonymous No.718494541
>>718482245
I never understood why there aren't weight classes or something in the pokemon world. Why can I field a deer god against a Ratata?
Anonymous No.718494657
>>718468206
Sword & Shield had visually appealing routes.
Cyber Sleuth had corridors with loading screens.
Even if the latter had better battles, players will still spend most of their time in the overworld.
>t. played both
Anonymous No.718494934
>>718450069
A above water coral zone? IN A JRPG? WAAAAAAAAAT
Anonymous No.718494956 >>718496159
>>718491604
there Togemon and Pokomon

>>718492549
what the hell is zeh"?
Anonymous No.718495606
>>718453821
>Legend
>good gameplay
I'm convinced people who like these spin offs have brain damage
Anonymous No.718496159 >>718497748
>>718494956
You mean Tokomon
>questioning ZEH
Nigga did I just catch you entering a thread without looking at the OP?
Anonymous No.718496628
>>718448947 (OP)
This looks like shit. Why did it take them so long to make something that looks about as bad as Scarlet and Violet did?
Anonymous No.718496868
>>718492549
Well done. Saved and keked.
Anonymous No.718497748 >>718499624
>>718496159
>You mean Tokomon
nope

> without looking at the OP?
so it is just shitposting ZA?
Anonymous No.718498237
>>718493304
With how delayed every action is I was expecting the scene to end with the game crashing
Anonymous No.718499064 >>718500714 >>718502216
>>718493304
Anonymous No.718499624
>>718497748
>Viximon
Anonymous No.718500262
>>718450484
The quality of the games never mattered. What mattered was Pokemon releasing with an aggressive marketing campaign that extended beyond the games with merch, a TCG and getting deals with household brands.
It didn't help that Digimon was basically the "for boys" version of Tamagotchi while Pokemon never tried to appeal just to one gender.
Anonymous No.718500714
>>718499064
Damn.
Parrotmon looking demonic, that's some great atmosphere.
Anonymous No.718502001
>>718490892
>over 150 million consoles sold
it's like they hate money
Anonymous No.718502216 >>718504379
>>718499064
>718493304
one can only wonder why it stopped itself instead of crushing everyone as a pre-emptive attack
Anonymous No.718502649
>>718493304
Thought this was a glitch at first lmao
Anonymous No.718502654
>>718492450
>It doesn't help they are kneecapped by the hardware
You haven't been able to use that excuse for almost 20 years now, anon. A4 some point you have to just accept they're shitty devs that steamrolled the competition even when they aren't trying.

>GF is just hitting the button for the food pellet at this point.
If they really wanted to do that they would have made a shitty AAA realistic game with some pretentious name.
Anonymous No.718502797
>>718493124
You want to know the best part?
The people defending Pokemon like Digimon and the people using Digimon to attack hate both.
Anonymous No.718503251
>>718492450
you have fucking bravely default 1 and 2, smtvv, P5R, dragon quest XI S, and octopath on the switch
no fucking excuses
Anonymous No.718503730 >>718504197 >>718504709 >>718513625
will this be the first Pokemon game with full voice acting? The Switch 2 cartridge has the space for a lot of voice files.
Anonymous No.718503959
>>718449468
>palworld
It's actually a digimon fan. I'm in the digimon server OP is in and he's currently bragging about all the (You)'s this thread is getting. The funny thing is, he's actually excited for this game. He only made the thread to instigate people.
Anonymous No.718504197 >>718504531
>>718503730
>that pic
your solar panels use oil, just in case you don't know, retarded zoom zoom
Anonymous No.718504379
>>718502216
It's called honor, you should look it up.
Anonymous No.718504531 >>718505136
>>718504197
And that negates the point of the picture, how? exactly?
Anonymous No.718504709
>>718503730
>Pokemon game
>Voice acting
Nigga they don't even bother animating mouth movement.
Anonymous No.718505136 >>718505687
>>718504531
>look for alterntives other than oil
>use solar panels boomer
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN SOLAR PANELS AND WINDMILLS USE RADIOACTIVE MATERIAL AND OIL TOO?
retard
Anonymous No.718505687 >>718510747
>>718505136
>using some oil in the pursuit of alternatives is literally exactly the same as using only oil and keep depending on it
OK retard.
Anonymous No.718508394
>>718448947 (OP)
Yeah I'm thinking Palworld won
Anonymous No.718510057
>>718448947 (OP)
This is still going to sell a gorillion copies unfortunately because it's Pokemon and because what the fuck else are you supposed to buy on a Switch 2 but the other clones are slowly getting the morale victory by offering cheaper, high quality alternatives.
Anonymous No.718510450 >>718511027
>>718449468
I'm glad that I'm not so consumed by childhood nostalgia that it drives me to literally worship a corporation. That sounds like it would suck.
Anonymous No.718510747
>>718505687
So explain to me how we use renewable energy in vast tracts of the world that don't get year-round sunlight and dont have very strong wind.
Anonymous No.718511027 >>718512754
>>718510450
Same desu. It sucks that most of the franchises I liked years ago have gone to shit but at least I realize it instead of clinging onto them.
Anonymous No.718512754
>>718511027
>It sucks that most of the franchises I liked years ago have gone to shit but at least I realize it instead of clinging onto them.
Are you trying to say the franchises you're sticking with now are better? You know that's worse, right?
Anonymous No.718513625 >>718516708
>>718503730
>Voice acting
SUMARU INDU COMPANIRU, PURISU UNDERUSUTANDU!
Anonymous No.718514150
>>718448947 (OP)
>>718451904
>>718491490
>>718493304
Anonymous No.718516708 >>718518410 >>718518897 >>718519147
>>718513625
why do you want voice acting in a mainline pokemon game? I'd understand if it were a yakuza pokemon game based on the anime, but not a mainline one. it's as ridiculous as playing dragon quest games with voices
Anonymous No.718516859
>>718488782
I’m mot a Unovafag. I liked Pokemon most during Gen 4.
Anonymous No.718517441
>>718490132
That’s funny. I thought Pokemon was shifting serious multiplayer over to Champions. To the extent that the VGC will revolve around it. And if you wanted to play Pokemon for its multiplayer why wouldn’t you just play Showdown in the first place?
Anonymous No.718517924
>>718450484
contrary to what appears from the trailers they show, the whole world is just a bunch of linear corridors with no interactability in them.
Anonymous No.718518052
>>718469680
Sun and Moon.
Anonymous No.718518410
>>718516708
>Because a band vocalist Gym Leader can't sing his own song, that would make too much sense.
Anonymous No.718518448
>>718482572
Yes.
Anonymous No.718518536
>>718472606
>looks like shit
>plays like shit
>feels like shit
>”I just have actual standards”
Riiiiiight.
Anonymous No.718518720 >>718519368
why are you indian?
Anonymous No.718518897 >>718520617
>>718516708
>It doesn't need because... it just DOESN'T, okay!?
Anon, stop coping.
The only reason PokΓ©mon doesn't have voice acting is simply because it's a lot of work, making the game more difficult and expensive to localize into different languages. Too much work for "poor" Game Freak, if they can't even do animations and graphics right, imagine planing around THAT.
Anonymous No.718518917 >>718519772 >>718519996 >>718520402 >>718520615
Gloopie eating
Anonymous No.718519097
>>718448947 (OP)
PALSHITTERS LOST NINTENGODS WON PALSHITTERS LOST NINTENGODS WON PALSHITTERS LOST NINTENGODS WON PALSHITTERS LOST NINTENGODS WON PALSHITTERS LOST NINTENGODS WON PALSHITTERS LOST NINTENGODS WON PALSHITTERS LOST NINTENGODS WON PALSHITTERS LOST NINTENGODS WON PALSHITTERS LOST NINTENGODS WON PALSHITTERS LOST NINTENGODS WON PALSHITTERS LOST NINTENGODS WON
Anonymous No.718519147
>>718516708
You’re right. Let’s all go play Detective Pikachu. Oh…that isn’t fully acted? And looks awful? And has terrible writing? Whoops…
Anonymous No.718519368
>>718518720
looks like it was captured from a show floor. that indian is the nintendo employee kek
Anonymous No.718519418
>The tendie is breaking
Anonymous No.718519553
>>718453628
>How is more
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
I KNOW ALL YOU PALSHITTERS WERE THIRD WORLD BROWNOIDS
Anonymous No.718519772
>>718518917
Cute
Anonymous No.718519996
>>718518917
Terrifying.
Anonymous No.718520212
>>718450069
>Everything is 10 steps of each other
No, claustrophobic as fuck
Anonymous No.718520213
>>718469060
Palshitter cope reported for advertising
Anonymous No.718520402
>>718518917
Shit shit shit SHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHIT
PALSHIT IS SHIT ALL YOUR CHINK COMPANY TOUCHES IS SHIT YOU ARE SHIT!!!!!!
Anonymous No.718520615 >>718520976
>>718518917
...mouth pussy?
Anonymous No.718520617 >>718520921
>>718518897
>>It doesn't need because... it just DOESN'T, okay!?
This but unironically. JRPGs have been played just fine without voice acting little gen alpha. Reading isn't that hard.
Anonymous No.718520683 >>718521781 >>718522132
>>718449468
is it possible that pokemon sucks, has sucked for a decade and palworld has nothing to do with that?
Anonymous No.718520690
reminder
Anonymous No.718520727
>>718458528
@halbean @devross get on it
Anonymous No.718520921
>>718520617
True…A shame that Pokemon has shit writing too.
Anonymous No.718520976
>>718520615
Imagine the terrifying yet satisfying blowjobs
Anonymous No.718521781
>>718520683
>has sucked for a decade
Anonymous No.718522132
>>718520683
I think it's closer to two decades now.
Anonymous No.718522436 >>718522659
>>718450069
How anyone could think this was not slop as well is beyond me.
Anonymous No.718522659
>>718522436
The bar for monster catchers in general is really low. Pokefags peak at another one, see a moment of decent animation, and thinks it's the greatest thing they've ever seen.