Thread 718501214

*wheeze*

looks like more of 3

>>718501214 (OP)
What is this and does it have base building?

>>718501314
If nothing else the map design is decidedly less "we wanna be a moba" than 3 was.

>Primarislop
>Cyrus dies
>only 4 factions
DOA

>>718501214 (OP)
soul, looks like shit maps from dow1

>Looks suspiciously close to a mobile game
>No signs of basbuilding
I will not be buying this

Like a mix of 2 and 3

>>718501214 (OP)
> Muh graphics

i dont give a shit dude, aslong as its actually an RTS with base building.

>>718502059
There's no base building.

>>718501214 (OP)
>that bottom panel
TOTAL WARHAMMER 40K?/

>>718501214 (OP)
looks like a cross between 2 and total war.

>>718502261
source

>Iron Harvest devs
its literally over before it even began

>>718502059
>RTS with base building
NeverEver, it will be like SW EAW ground battles

Devs previous game has base building fwiw. Pretty good as single player RTS goes.

>>718501214 (OP)
>even RTS games are not safe from anti-soul gas
When will this terror end?

>>718502261
lying piece of shit

>>718502261
base building just doesn't make sense in 40k

>>718501214 (OP)
>UI from 1
>Gameplay of 2
>Visuals of 3
>With post Adeptus Restartes codex
Shan't buy

>>718501819
you have cyrus in literals creen fag
also
>SM dying from being impaled to the guts
also it looks like DoW2 map used in DoW3

40k is a cursed franchise but deservedly so

>>718502757
They're all pre-built

>>718503186
i accept your concession, you shouldnt lie on the internet anon!

>>718502757
Niggers have no honor anon

>not made by Relic
Not canon
Not Dawn of War

>>718502468
>pretty good
Iron Harvest was trash that's why nobody played it

>>718503820
nigger relic KILLED dow with 3

>Played 3 whole hours of Iron Harvest before uninstalling
Yeah it's done.

>>718504431
DoW3 is better than 2 unless you're a mobafag who wants to play with 1 hero and 2 squads at most.

>>718504672
>DoW3 is better than 2
ok paid nigger fuck off or state hour ratio

>>718505078
they hated him because he told the truth

>>718501819
Cyrus is literally in the gameplay screenshot.

I wish it was more DoW2 style with cover and stuff. Not sure I really like the "5-man squads all march together like a single unit".

>>718505078
What's wrong with Total War?

>primaris
>nucrons who will make terrible marvel quips
>female-lead mechanicus
I'll pass

so these graphics are due to the Switch 2 port, right?

>>718505428
Nothing, but those unit cards in the DOW4 screenshot are indistinct red blobs.
TWWH got flak for some of their unit cards being so samey and they went back and re-did them.
The DOW4 ones look like a prime example of TW unit cards done poorly, good luck identifying your units at a glance with those.

>>718505874
>Switch 2 port
How do you even play these games with gamepad?

>>718506194
uh, you series Steam Troon? Switch 2 has mouse, PS5 has mouse, Xbox has mouse…you smell

>>718505780
>Muh nucrons
"Nu"crons at this point are way older than you, Timmy

>>718506842
Not him, but what do you mean with this? The new Necrons are fucking terrible.

>>718506842
shit doesn't turn to gold with age

>>718505295
>Cyrus is literally in the gameplay screenshot.
We also see him die in the trailer though.

Looks extremely slow and undynamic. Almost like an autobattler.

That they gave DoW to a shitty Relic cover band is wild.

>>718501214 (OP)
IS this dawn of war 2-two?

>>718501214 (OP)
>Recommended gtx4080Ti@720p DLSS:Performance:ON (30fps)

>>718507407
SM yet alone named character doesn't die from being impaled

>>718506842
primarislop has been out for almost 10 years and its still shit

>>718501214 (OP)
I can't wait to buy the other factions for 24.99 each (+tip)

>>718507407
>We also see him die in the trailer though.
Could be they're going to make him cross the Rubicon and become a Primaris like in SM2 with Titus and his tight anus.
Or put him in a Dreadnaught a-la Davian Thule.

>>718501819
>only 4 factions
>DOA
AAAAIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE

Anyone notice the huge frame drop when they showed the zoomed in combat?
It's like I'm really playing CoH1

>>718502271
No its litterally the iron harvest interface lmao.

>>718509248
>huge frame drop
UE5 slop, huh? *sigh*

>>718504672
developers making games for retards like this, all 50 of them, is why RTSes are fucking dead

>>718508539
DoW1 released with 4 factions. I honestly can't believe how nigger-brained 40k fags are sometimes.

>>718509248
Even DoW3 looks better than this desaturated brown mess. Jesus christ we're just going back in time 20 years to piss filters.

Maps2small

kinda sums up PC gaming in general, absolutely grim

>>718501214 (OP)
>2025
>isometric
Skip
This isn't the 80s anymore, grandpa. We can render actual 3D environments now and have no need for this worst perspective in videogames.

All they had to do was make WC3 but in the 40k universe.

DOW 3 is one of the worst RTSes ever made and it killed Relic

Does the gaymaris surgery restore Gabriel to his original body from DOW1/2 instead of this fucking cartoon abomination?

>>718509756
How else are we supposed to play strategy game, niggerbrain?

>>718502794
It makes sense in any RTS, I just want to build a big base and put my troops in formation, I don't care about APM autism fest or le deep tactical gameplay, that mindset is why the genre nearly died.

hmmmmmm

Why are the Blopod Ravens back on Kronus? Wasn't the world purged?

>>718502468
>pretty good
I'd say it was almost good. The unit balance was fucked from what I remember. Like you're very limited on unit capacity, and some mech that costs like 2 or 3 is 10x as powerful as a solder that costs 1 so there were certain units that were entirely pointless.

And the starting campaign faction story is about MUH STRONG WOMAN WHO IS REPRESSED AND OPPRESSED BY MEN BUT IS SECRETLY STRONGER AND BETTER THAN THEM.

>>718509248
What the fuck are the unit cards at the bottom? Are those currently selected units or literally your entire army? You can see a unit get added 8~9 seconds in and the pop count doesn't change. I don't want a scenario where it ends up looking like pic related at max pop. I hate that shit in total war.

>>718510187
>nearly
It's dead, retard
>Inb4 but muh rehashes of old games
That's all you're ever going to get

>>718501930
You see the ork faction placing buildings.

>>718501214 (OP)
whoa, they're making dawn of war 3?!

>>718510187
retardchama, the muh comfy wholesome basebuilding is actually a big part of the "APM autism fest"

>>718502468
No it wasn't. I wanted to like it really badly but it was a terrible and jank Company of Heroes mod. Most of the big mech units and vehicles couldn't even properly path or maneuver in any of the maps because of how small and cramped they were and clearly designed for infantry. It was not a good game.

no boreale no buy

>>718510491
>TW
Because that's a franchise for fuck-huge armies. Your pic is MULTIPLE armies. That is rather rare to see. You can also minimise it like have AI control a secondary army.

>>718510732
Not wrong about being cartoony. They are either afraid to be actually gritty or don't know how to.

>>718505780
>making up things just to get mad at
I really dont understand why 40k has such a vocal secondary crowd that cry about everything

>>718501214 (OP)
CYRUS
YOU HAVE FEHLED
THE EMPRAH

>>718509248
Are the Orks assets from Total Warhammer?

>>718505780
God, I hate modern Necrons like you wouldn't believe. Mechanicus ruined them permanently.

>>718511672
Only one named blood raven character can have plot armour anon, those are the rukes.

( Hopefully this means we will get a new Gabriel Angelos model)

>>718504672
>DoW3 is better than 2
is u an retarded?

Dawn of War 3 killed Dawn of War as a series.
It wasn't like Soulstorm, on which the playerbase was divisive but eventually recovered.
To this day, Dawn of War 3 has less players than Dawn of War 2, despite being broken up into three versions and being anywhere from 6 to 8 years older. People are currently choosing a 14 year old game over the third installment.
Brother, it is not even beating Dark Crusade.

You are allowed to like what you like, man, but don't drop statements that are outright incorrect.

>>718510824
Even when they feature base building they shouldn't target competitive MP autism. Solid single player campaign and aesthetic base building options should be a priority.

>>718513013
How did it kill it if we're in the thread about the upcoming sequel to said "killed the franchise" game?

If you want to base build just play Factorio. I'm serious.

>>718507161
>>718507236
>>718508204
>>718512798
It appears that our superiority has led to some controversy.

>>718501214 (OP)
I always knew that if they ever made a DoW4, it would just be like 3 again or worse. And this definitely looks worse.

>>718501819
more imperial slop is a skip for me.

So to those who played DOW3, what happened to Vanilla Ice?

>>718513791
Oldcrons, sure, new ones are bland and blend in too much.

>>718501214 (OP)
Shan't be falling for it again.

>>718509248
>dust
>smoke
>brown
>shadows
>more smoke
>more dust
>smokey brown dusts in shadows
I literally couldn't tell you how many units are alive or present after multiple times watching.
Even the Blood Ravens, who are supposed to be bright blood red, look brown and washed out.

Is this just a UE5 problem? It's so damn common.

>>718513791
Man, if I cared to have any kind of cabinet or bookshelf I'd have a small 40k army painted up really well on one shelf.

>>718514367
The canon ending is the 'neutral' DOW2 ending where Hairgel and Thaddeus get sent to the Eye of Terror for a penitence campaign.

In White Dwarf 2019, Gays Workshop unveiled the Primaris Blood Ravens and the fates of the main characters.

Hairgel becomes 4th company captain with Thaddeus as the veteran sergeant.

>base building
>larger army sizes than DoW 1
>unit veterancy, abilities, commander abilities like 2
>destructible terrain and cover
Looks pretty good

>>718513791
I cant believe they dethroned the elven faggotry

>>718513791
LE HECKING WAIFU US TRANNIES CAN RELATE TO SO BASED SISTER

DoW1 base building was boring and simplistic as fuck. I don't understand why people hold it in such high regard when it is even more simple than shit like C&C.

If they are going to have base building make it substantial like SC, AoE, or RoN. But that wouldn't really fit the 40k/DoW theme so I'm okay with them removing it as long as the combat is good.

I think I'll stick with my comfy age of mythology

>>718514367
Canonically got the 'mildly heretical' ending and was shipped off and a penitence crusade of 100 years must be undertaken.
Basically, your main dude grabbed some chaos taint on the way to victory, but not enough to get executed outright.
That's why he's not in any of the other games so far. He's either off in the eye of terror, kicking ass and taking names while sporting amazing hair, or is dead from combat during said crusade.

>>718515882
I agree with you and have always felt the same. There are no Relic RTS' that have good base building actually, their strengths have always been in making unique gameplay systems.

>>718515882
90% of RTS players only play the game for like 10 hours. They build their base and defend from the occasional 1-2 units the AI sends at them (they never touch multiplayer) and then build to pop cap and sweep across the map. Anything that doesn't allow that exact formula is bad RTS.

This game seems it will allow for this as well, so that's good news for its success

>>718515109
Oh, shit. I didn't know that. Disregard me >>718516117, I suck cocks.

>>718501214 (OP)
I'm not feeling it.

>>718516487
Same. That wasn't a good trailer. The gameplay looks bad and the cinematic is incoherent.

>>718516139
Relic understood that turtling is for fags and made games to filter turtlers, DoW is anti-turtling but most didn't know that since they only played against easy AI

>>718515346
>>718515575
It's a 3D print you faggots.
>>718514932
Secondary.
>>718514370
And how, pray tell, did terminators but green eyes instead of red stand out?

>>718517470
You talk like a fucking retard.
>weebified Nucron shill
Good lord, can it get worse?

>>718516830
I noticed how, I dunno, listless? Soulless? Sanitized? it was especially after seeing the original DOW trailer a few days ago. It conveyed more and was more engaging even without a half-assed ode to fighting for the Emperor.

what is this stupid camera angle
and unit cards? wtf is this total war?

>>718501214 (OP)
>>718509248
No idea what that is, but it looks in motion as uneventful as a single screenshot.

>>718516139
Base building in dow1 is a glorified tech tree.

>>718517632
Anime website, shartynig. Kill yourself.

>>718501214 (OP)
>Relic got cucked out of both Space Marine 2 and DoW4
lmao

>iron harvest devs
relic might be shit but they’re the best RTS devs left standing and that godawful trailer is why
looks like a fucking mobile game

>>718518554
They did that to themselves.

>>718518613
every new rts just has that mobile game look.

>>718518554
And Dawn of War is even worse off for it. I’d rather have nothing than let the Iron Harvest developers take a crack at it

>>718515882
Agreed, for the most part.
Base building can work if the rest of the game is there to support it. But ultimately it's not the core of what made me love Dawn of War 1 and 2.
>I need good unit variety.
>I need good faction variety.
>I need fantastic voice-lines.
>I need a fun campaign with fun set-pieces.
>I need cool skirmish maps.
>I need the AI to be competent to fight against.

No, I'm not interested in playing competitive online stuff. I like building armies and zooming in to watch fights and making little stories about my men as they fight. Biggest fear is having to micromanage units with active abilities. Really turned me off of 3. Couldn't bring myself to finish the campaign.

Base-building could be a great way to differentiate how some factions play , say Imperial guard turtling forward with gun emplacements, bunkers, and trenches.
Or if unit/army varieties are big enough, build order could drastically change how you play your army in a game. Like say Chaos building into making a marine army with cultists or instead building a demon-focused army.

Also, Mordians, Steel Legion, Krieg, Catachan, etc. Give us something besides just Cadians.

>>718502757
>beast shagga hut

>>718518726
It’s not just the look but the gameplay looks really simplistic too.
CoH3 is ugly but it’s still a Company of Heroes game.

>>718516468
Angelos is still the Chapter Master
Jonah Negro is the Chief Librarian
Apollo Diomedes is the Master of Sanctity
Tarkus is the 1st company veteran sergeant

Davian Thule is still a venerable dreadnought with the 4th company
Hairgel is the 4th company captain
Thaddeus is the 4th company veteran sergeant

Cyrus becomes 10th company captain
Martellus is the #2 Techmarine behind the Master of the Forge

Avitus is the canon traitor

Primaris Blood Raven geneseed is stable and turns more neophytes into psykers than any other chapter, to ensure that a Kyras situation is never repeated Angelos and Jonah Negro recruit blanks to watch over and guard their numerous Librarians

The Horus Heresy books all but spell out that they're Thousand Sons loyalists from the Corvidae branch who left Prospero before the Space Wolves bombed them

>>718518759
This, we need some top notch modern RTS devs to work on it like.....uh....

>>718501214 (OP)
Yeah it's an RTS
What did you expect

Eldar, Space Marines, green skins and necrons? Where are chaos and tyranids?

>>718518920
It should have been Relic. They might suck but they’re better than everyone else.
Otherwise don’t even bother.

>>718508047
>>718508327
The trailer outright shows his corpse mounted on top of a pyre (you can see wood and straw underneath him when they drape the banner on his corpse) followed by a scene of a lit pyre.
I highly doubt they go off and make space marine briquettes before they chuck the corpse in a dreadnought.

>>718510364
Considering the main reason the Ravens decided to not back down when the Imperial Guard showed up, instead of working with them, was because they found some damning history about them, and made that place their stronghold to hide it, it's likely more of them trying to pretend they're not descendants of Magnus or Lorgar.
Like, guys, we get it! You don't want your gene-daddy to have been a traitor, but you gotta face facts. Your original chapter were the ones that stayed loyal when the entire rest of the legion turned. Take pride in that, at least.
>our chapter holds a dark secret
It's not a secret if everyone else already figured it out, knuckleheads!

Are RTS fun? I've never played any. I enjoy Strategy based CRPGs and JRPGs and Paradox Grand Strategy games.

>>718519025
Iron Harvest is better than CoH 3 though

>>718503186
there is literally a clip of them placing a building and worker walking up to start building

>>718519193
No, nobody plays RTS to have fun.
Fucking faggot.

>>718518959
>chaos
DLC
>tyranids
who cares

>Dawn of War 3.5
It's shit but I dont even have the energy to care or be upset about it being ass.
It's just there as one more proof of everything that ever was good being run into the ground with reckless abandon in the never ending pursuit of number must go up.

>>718519305
Can't believe I found the world's only CoH3 fan

>>718518959
>Somehow painted too thin in parts and too thick and goopy in others.
Vile.

I can't put my finger on it. The units look clean. The animations look lightweight. The visual effects look wimpy. Hate to be such a negative nancy but it just looks like Dow3.5

also
>primaris
W.H.Y.

Yea looks really really bad.
The map and models look like games workshop ordered them to make everything look exactly like a model that can be purchased currently, even the enviormental details
The map and icons over units feel extremely mobile gamey
Primaris are ugly and retarded
Would be totally shocked if this is any good

>>718505898
>TWWH

>>718501214 (OP)
Holy shit it feels and looks cheap. Dow 3 fucked me too hard and primaris are another thing I don't want to look at. Ain't touching this shit with a 10 foot pole. Too bad many normans eat that shit up, just look at some of the youtube comments and you will see willing shit eaters ready to be served.

>>718519589
CoH3 is dogshit but Iron Harvest is like a cheap chinese copy of dogshit

>>718518959
Vomit.

>>718519650
>the units look clean
the units are direct one-to-one recreations of tabletop models and paintschemes, just like space marine 2

no variation or artistd interpretation allowed, it MUST be like the models, so dictates GW

>>718502261
kys retard

>>718519650
Because the visuals are just eavy metal style miniatures in a video game. Look at DoW1 models. Not a single one is a 1:1 of any real miniature. They're artistic interpretations of the setting, not toy advertisments. That soul is missing here utterly, where you just have Primaris Invictor Warsuits fighting Ork Beast Snagga Boys in the shadow of the Megaboss Bunker

>>718519206
Not really.
CoH3 (and all modern Relic games, really) has the problem of being made by an ex-team.
Some things are genuine quality, other things are handled as if done by a newly hired college dropout.
Which makes sense, the people at the studio do have experience making RTS games, but over time, a lot of the critical positions got lost through THQ's death (fire most, rehire some), DoW3 debacle (fire most, rehire some), SEGA separation (fire most)... without passing on their skills to a new generation.

But Iron Harvest. Iron Harvest is just a shop of people who have never seen an RTS before trying to make one by copying photos.
These guys were years away from making their first passable RTS as they couldn't get anything right, let alone a major leaguer like DoW.

It is much easier to reassemble a crew of people who know how to do something rather than waiting for what's essentially a Chinese reverse engineering house to figure out how to make an iPhone.

>>718519650
>W.H.Y.
You know why. Timeline keeps moving forward, we're long past the ultima founding, and everyone has primaris marines now. Even Black Templars who famously had one group kill a custodes for trying to "force" primaris marines on them have primaris marines in their rank and file as well as both Grimaldus and Helbrecht crossing the rubicon.

>>718519321
If you are 100% new to them, you can start with Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2, Warcraft 3, Company of Heroes, or Starcraft 2.
They're all good entries into the genre. Then you could get into more unique ones like Homeworld or Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance.
If you're looking at this thread and are thinking of Dawn of War, be aware the original first game got much better with expansions.

Game looks like DOW3, not good.

The only good thing is that Relic isn't making it but the monkey paw is that a literal who dev is now making it.

>>718520058
Looks like about half and half skepticism vs consoomer glee, which is pretty good for a 40k product, 40k fans are very high on the paypig retard scale.

Five bucks on nostalgia faggots will reject and doom it with a discord coordinated hate campaign.

>>718520337
>Timeline keeps moving forward
THEN STOP IT. STOP THE TIMELINE. I WANT OFF THIS RIDE.

>>718520337
You are so fucking retarded anon.

Did they spoil Cyrus getting killed in the campaign?

They draped the Blood Ravens flag over him

>>718520709
If they did that's pretty fucking impressive.

>>718502757
Hmmm i wonder if they will polish the micro

AHAHAHAHA

This is what warhammer piggies deserve

>>718520562
no, you will become spacecast eternal

>>718519941
>The map and models look like games workshop ordered them to make everything look exactly like a model that can be purchased currently, even the enviormental details
Some devs are scanning official 40k models and then only fixing them and creating textures. Which is why they look identical. Battlesector guys work like this

>>718520709
Like >>718519057 said, they cremated him.

>>718501214 (OP)
The cinematic sucked ass but those first screenshot leave me cautiously optimistic.

>>718519206
lol
lmao even

>>718521334
Ayo dem cybernetics could be reused

>>718521334
How I'm going to cheese missions without the infinite stealth infinite explosives instant revival scout

>>718520384
Relic would have done a better job imo

>>718521364
maybe it will be a reverse dow3

>>718501214 (OP)
So is this like an RTS like Warcraft or Starcraft or something? only ones I played in this genre I believe

I'm struggling to see any form of cover. Am I blind?

>>718501819
Every DoW game but the third one had 4 factions on release

DoW
>SM
>Orks
>Eldar
>CSM

DoW2
>SM
>Orks
>Eldar
>Tyranids

>>718519650
>also primaris W.H.Y.
You know why, these video games are made to get you to buy the plastic models and the plastic models that are released now are primaris.

>>718522297
Primaris haven't been bad in design in ages.

>>718521665
DoWs are nothing like Blizzard games
They have simplistic base building or no base building depending on a title, but more focus on microing units, upgrading them, leveling and their abilities
There are squads of units instead of singular units and they are replenished
You fight to capture various resource generating points, but in general don't need as many workers as in other RTS
That's the most important differences I think. They feel very different to play

Check out Indrid Cast for DoW2 or Official Mr Landshark for DoW1 for how their gameplay looks like. Elitemod is an autistic balance mod with some new content for DoW2 which is why all videos from DoW2 are about it, entire mp community basically moved onto it

>>718522384
Every primaris kit released in recent memory is fugly as shit.

>>718510348
Oh my god guys, the camera is rotatable

>>718519650
>W.H.Y.
All Warhammer games are always based on a newest edition available. Which isn't really surprising

>>718521634
Man, what a fantastic trailer that was.

>>718501214 (OP)
>space marines
>admech
>orks
>necron
LAUGH AT CHAOS

>>718522492
>They have simplistic base building or no base building depending on a title, but more focus on microing units
Sounds good, I never really was into the base building so this might be more fun to me
Will check out those channels thanks anon

>>718522582
No they're not. You've had amazing primaris models, and you've had shitty models
Everything Dark Angels is great, Space Wolves too. Blood Angels are the ones that suffered the most, genuinely bottom of the barrel design on that one that's true.

>>718518903
I thought they were at prospero but got away and were able to join the loyalists at cthonia

>>718523003
No they’re all overdesigned slop

>>718502468
I'm actually playing through it right now and the whole game feels like it SHOULD be good, but it just isn't. For general battles the small maps, bad pathfinding, handicapped defensive structures, low population cap maximums and weird balancing that comes from it (e.g. the best strategy is to basically spam one type of mech) undermine the game.

Then the campaign has pacing issues making it feel like a slog, to the point that I often have to push myself to actually start the next mission. To top it off the campaign also loves to ass-pull ONE MORE OBJECTIVE or have a shoddily implemented situation pop-off, like needing to escape with your commander against overwhelming forces which happens in... 3 out of the first 4 Saxony campaign missions. I don't mind the idea in principle but most of the non base-building missions are boring and then when there's finally a campaign with base building the AI just keeps getting free units on top of what they can build on top of what they start with on the map. It's almost a good thing that the balancing is fucked, because otherwise it would be frustrating to try and push enemy artillery positions while the AI is attack moving you with it's forces then getting a bunch of extra free forces spawned in as well.

The visuals, art direction and OST are all fine but I'm not having that much fun. Nearly finished the last campaign at least

The emperor has been BETRAYED and TRAPPED by Horus heresy

>>718523187
That's like, your opinion, but you are big gay.

>>718505780
I wondered why we even get a new major RTS.
Did some Black Rock apostle find out about rts being some white male refugium and now try to enshittify the genre?
HW3 and Stormgate where suspiciously close and a huge step up from the minor woke influence in AoE4

>>718522949
>4 out of 4 r*ddit factions
Oh no, Chaosbros what will you do?!

>>718523003
It's impossible to make a cool looking mkx model because it constantly reminds you post 8th edition fiction is a total joke with it's existence. The space wolf models try with such techniques as "giving them non mkx bits" but still fail, because every time you see the knee fins you are reminded of the fact cawl exists and it's impossible to take seriously.

The nu-chaos stuff looks good though :)

Playable units by factions
Space Marines:
>Cyrus
>Librarian
>Intercessors
>Assault Intercessors
>Eradicators
>Bladeguard Veterans
>Repulsor Executioner
>Invictor Tactical Warsuit
>Redemptor Dreadnought

Mechanicus:
>Techpriest
>Skitarii Rangers/Vanguard
>Kataphron Breachers/Destroyers
>Ironstrider Ballistarius
>Corpuscarii Electro-Priests
>Kastelan Robots
>Onager Dunecrawler
>Skorpius Disintegrator
>Knight Castellan

Necrons:
>Chronomancer
>Warriors
>Skorpekh Destroyers
>Canoptek Doomstalker
>Canoptek Spyder
>Lychguard
>Scarab Swarms
>Triarch Stalker
>Monolith

Orks:
>Gorgutz
>Mekboy
>Shoota/Choppa Boyz
>Gretchin
>Nobz
>Meganobz
>Squighog Boyz
>Deff Dread
>Battlewagon
>Gorkanaut

>>718513791
How about this, how about we take all the great new models (even as an oldcron fanatic I will say that all the canoptek constructs are way better than the old wraiths/spyders/etc), and throw out all the marvel trash

>>718523587
everyone is still trying to chase the starcraft esports train even though 2 is practically dead as all the koreans have just slowly gone back to brood war
ourside of that you have chink autobattler slop or trash aping clash of clans slop and the occasional command and conquer rehash

>>718524228
You can tell how new a model is by how retarded their unit name sounds

>>718513791
I love all the secondaries who don't know about kitbashes or 3d prints seething at this

>>718524275
No use bargaining. Retards such as the one you're replying to specifically like what killed Necrons, them having "personality" and "character" with a host of talkative, generic, named characters and hollow repetitive stories. Look at how that spastic talks, look at how anybody who is pro nucron talks. They're all the same.

Is there something in GW writer contracts that stipulate Grey Knight lore must outretard all the other retarded lore that they come up with?
First it was being the bestest specialest spess mehreens ever. Then it was that whole thing with the sisters of battle. Now its this terminus decree nonsense.

>>718524275
That looks fine
This motherfucker looks like he's going to get stuck in a doorway. What does his gay tuning fork actually do anyway?

>>718524538
Where are these "secondaries", anon?

>>718524581
He can stop time and shit

>>718524539
Necron stories are the most interesting and varied they've ever been, the only oldcron stories I can think of are
>Damnos: We must kill all life for the C'tan!
>DoW 1: We must kill all life for the C'tan!
Nobody played Oldcrons, and the issues you have are derived from reddit memes, secondary

>>718522949
>Implying that Eliphas won't show up his ugly mug again
>implying gw didn't align it with showing off lorgar model for 11th

>>718505078
Very true based and real

>>718524457
Old Marines: guy with irreplaceable century old bolter passed down for generations
guy with irreplaceable century heavy bolter passed down for generations
guy with irreplaceable century plasma gun that might explode any moment passed down for generations

New Marines: Bladeguard Extracutor Dark Avenger with Tactical Maledictus Incistor Flame Gun that shoots 5000 nukes at the same time while teleporting the user through the warp

>>718510732
>placing buildings
I will not be buying this.

>>718524191
All I'm getting from that is that you're a faggot that's incapable of separating lore from design.

>>718524704
Based newfag trying to be a revisionist.
>nobody played
Speaking for yourself and knows nothing.
>issues are from reddit
Speaking for yourself again. Either head in sand when people critique nucron (like now), or weren't around (probably the case too). See how anybody and everybody that's in favour of nucrons are total clueless fuckheads every time? Crazy how it always works like that.

Finished multiple Rogue Trader playthroughs, is Dawn of War a good follow up game in the 40k setting? Not massively familiar with 40k but RT was great and i'm looking for something that isn't too far apart in tone.

Love this little guy like you wouldn't believe but every discussion of Mechanicus I've read is that it's a bad/mediocre game with a brilliant OST.

>>718524958
Yes, nobody played them

>>718524814
https://www.youtube.com/@Asmogan/videos
Nevermind the guy's a queer.

>>718502421
Oh damn. They're making their way up through the world. Iron Harvest was just indie eurojank RTS.

>>718525004
Dawn of War is not turnbased, so I wouldn't say it's a good "follow up" from you playing Rogue Trader but it is still a good game in the setting to play.

>>718524704
We must kill all life and our methods are incomprehensible Necrons was GOOD. Necrons being a doomed race from AGES ago, so long ago that it was utterly inconceivable and even the Eldars were freaked out by them was GOOD. Things not being explained, lore being unclear was GOOD.

Maldavius the Wacky wanting to collect the most Space Marine helmets in the universe because his neigbour Nefarious Notegyptian pissed him off with his collection of used spoons 5 billion years ago is NOT GOOD

>>718501214 (OP)
what's their e-sports strategy?

>>718504672
...but DoW3 is the MOBA one...

>>718524957
You are low iq and probably 30 or older.

>>718524228
Missed Ruststalkers for the Mechanicus and Deffkopters for the Orks

>>718524538
>>718524657
Guess they didn't exist outside of anon's mind. Many such cases.

>>718525208
Trazyn the Infinite really mindbroke secondary niggas

Webm version.

>>718525460
worst character in the lore if cowl didn't exist

>>718525550
>cowl
lol
lmao
do nad redeem the warhammer sar!!!

>Work in progress - Not final quality
Mechanicus faction would make my dick hard if this franchise wasn't seemingly cursed.

>>718525609
One bad game is not a curse anon

>>718525609
Mechanicus does exceedingly well in vidya though
Their own game was good and the AdMech companion in Rogue Trader is easily the best in the game

>>718525696
40k is the one good game franchise

are newcrons still edgy and WANT to be necrons or its some sissy i want to be old me trope shit

>>718523003
>You've had amazing primaris models
No such thing.

>>718524846
It's so tiresome.

>>718525208
>Things not being explained, lore being unclear was GOOD.
Accurate.

>>718525550
>cowl
Nigga it's warhammer. Every fucking motherfucker in the imperium has a cowl. Or a hood. Or a hat. Shit should be named Haberdasher 40k.

>>718525807
Necrons are like Tomb Lords. You're pretty easily able to flavor your guys to however you want them to be.

>>718501214 (OP)
Fuck that looks cool

>>718525004
I dont think mechanicus is bad,just a little underbaked content wise, it's xcom-lite without any home base mechanics, you just upgrade your dudes and do random generated missions that are all fairly similar with only necrons to fight, worth it if you get it cheap on sale

other then that for 40k games space marine 2 is a fun romp, it's pretty short for the price unless you get really really into the multiplayer

dawn of war 1 and 2 are both great

darktide is good it's 40k left for dead

boltgun was also alright, a pixelated boomer shooter, I think I played it on game pass not sure if its still there

>>718524957
Lore and design are inextricable. And you are a retarded consumer bitch.

>>718525807
They are having a civil war over if they want to slaughter all life and then regain their souls or if they want to slaughter all life and stay giga nigga robots. The pro-necron side is winning and the pro-return to flesh side is shown to be hopeless

>>718525004
Mechanicus would be the closest, it's a turn based tactics game after all

>>718525807
There's two major "factions" (really more trains of thought) among the necrons. One group wants to be fleshies again, which for some reason involves harvesting organic matter of all life in the galaxy to figure out how to make meat bodies for them to transfer their minds back to. The other hates all organic life and wants them dead.

YES NEWCRONS
godI love them so fucking much.

>>718520192
>>718520293
What the fuck are you talking about? Most units in 40k videogames have been 1:1 recreations of the tabletop models, hell I remember DoW getting praised for this

>>718525004
Mechanicus has a great atmosphere and like 7/10 gameplay, worth it for fans of the settings imo

>>718526178
also I'm trans btw

Why the FUCK is this genre so fucking cursed beyond belief.

>>718526258
MOBA killed the genre and the money's no longer there.

>>718526204
Genuinely just use your eyes and look at a dawn of war 1 model vs it's corresponding unit vs something from the trailer (or other new games) and the model. If you can't tell what I mean then, there is no hope for you.

>>718526258
If you ignore the Warhammer 40k lore sperging is there any reason to expect the game to be bad? I played the first dawn of war and liked it when I didn't know what 40k was.

>cyrus in primaris armor
>killed in the fucking trailer
cmon man

>>718526365
But DotAclones are strictly online only with one map.

>>718526258
rts games cant prosper in such a corporatized environment the way we have today
all large budget modern rts projects chase the esports slop dragon because the suits demand it and they fail miserably and are forgotten

>>718524539
I have no chips to bargain with. It's just the musings of an old man stuck in the past

>>718524704
Giving Necrons unique characters killed their uniqueness as a faction. You have your great characters? Good for you. They didn't have to be Necrons. There were already numerous other factions that filled that niche and wouldn't trade anything for having those characters. Necrons had their own, unique niche and unique vibe. They lost it

>>718525208
Necron Lord of Kronus going "..." and Eliphas freaking out was GOOD and KINO

I'd like to think this is some wide angle camera shit but the truth is that when you look at the trailer there's something weird going on with it and I can't quite put my finger on what it is.
It feels like it's not an actual game trailer, like it's CGI or something. Don't know how to explain it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X48fSivYbAA

i had no idea how good we had it

>>718526427
>is there any reason to expect the game to be bad?
Just wariness from how shit DoW3 turned out.

>Eldar will be $20 day 1 dlc
>Chaos and Nids will be $30 Season pass dlc

>>718526540
>metal tyranids
>unique
>>718526412
Dawn of War 1 models are also 1::1 recreations of the tabletop minis
>>718526427
90% of the complaints I see are directly countered by reading the steam description or looking at the screenshots

>>718526258
MOBA mauled it while anyone sane that was left jumped ship to RTT.

Dawn of War had the best choice of starting races. Marines, Eldar, Chaos, Orks. Everything that was needed, perfect representation of the setting, perfect archetypes. Then IG, Tau, Necrons as logical progression. Apart form Tyranids this was really the perfect setup. Soulstorm was a cashgrab nobody needed.

I'm not sold with Mechanicus as a seperate factions. It never made sense to me lorewise and I'm sure GW just did it so they could sell more minis.

>>718524191
>It's impossible to make them cool because I'm retarded and I get a psychotic attack of nigger rage because I have to fit in with my fellow jaded r/4channers
Though luck I guess

>>718526980
Mechanicus have always been a semi-independent faction lore wise though with their own standing army long before they got the models for it.

>>718526197
the da Vinci machines aesthetic they tried to push into 40K AdMech failed so hard the entire range looks like dogshit because of that dumb experiment

>>718526980
It's like making the OKW and the Ostheer separate factions in COH2

>>718525534
thinking about it more, i like the unit bar on the bottom. looks like it'd make selecting things in the middle of a battle easier and currently building units being on it is nice.
i just dont have much hope for this series after everything that's happened, shit's fucking cursed by devs that dont know how to appeal to any demographic.

>>718526840
>Dawn of War 1 models are also 1::1 recreations of the tabletop minis

The trailer does look weird and something is off. It looks a bit like Dawn of War 3 where infantry come off as way too light. Compared to vehicles, sure, they should be, but if you go back and play DoW1 or DoW2 you don't get the sense that infantry squads are easy to dislodge like you do here

>>718527181
the fliers look gay but i like everything else. Especially inspector gadget over here

>>718501214 (OP)
Not looking good dowbros...

>>718527181
Have you considered maybe it just doesn't appeal to you? admech is my favorite tabletop faction for looks and that image is one of my favorite units

>>718526540
>Necrons had their own, unique niche and unique vibe
Oldcrons really didn't. The change in lore from old to new just moved the goalpost of the unique characters from the c'tan like the Nightbringer to Necron lords like Imotekh. The rest of the necron are still effectively the same old shit.
You don't for example, have a story about Necron Warrior Kali-ma rising up the ranks similar to Black Templar Raklaw becoming the venerable dreadnought Tankred.

>>718527334
i second this post

>>718527205
In COH3 they split the Germans into Wehrmacht and Africa Korps which is another level of strange since the game is set mostly in Italy, the Africa Korps was technically part of the Italian army and they made it rather than making an Italian faction for the game. A game set mostly in Italy.

I'm amazed they had the balls to put that gameplay in the trailer goddamn that's rough
Also "hey guys remember Kronos????"

>>718526604
The static camera and rigid panning makes it look like a mobile game ad which in turn makes it uncanny.

>>718526840
>Dawn of War 1 models are also 1::1 recreations of the tabletop minis
show me where I can buy an exact 1:1 gabriel angelos model when the game came out

>>718522949
Man that art looks like its from mobile slop

>>718526840
>unique
Yes. They had a great ying-yang relationship with tyranids, and also with the immaterium through the C'Tan (when they weren't just cuck-shards). They complimented the setting in a way that you'd only appreciate if you looked deeper than the surface level drawing of brainlet parallels. And even if we retardedly accept that they're just "metal tyranids", that would still make them more unique than being one of 2 dozen factions with colorful personalities and internal fighting and politics

>>718524089
Chaos is literally re ddit: the faction

>>718527776
>t. does not hear the voices too

>>718525363
>you can selectively analyse each aspect of a thing while I'm a schizo faggot that can't separate things
>YOU'RE THE DUMB ONE
Sure mate.
>>718525980
No they're not in this situation. Space marines are more than their primaris lore. I can easily just ignore the primaris lore and take the mkx designs as they are, which is a new space marine armor design or even just new models.
At this point you don't even need to take them with the mkx helmets if you're that upset about it.

>>718527479
To be fair once the Allies invaded the mainland their primary opponent was the Wehrmacht, as Italy had already surrendered.
Afrika Korps is half Italian anyway though I do agree I wish it was more than just battlegroups.

Things being left unexplained and open to interpretation is what gives depth to a setting. Not like GW cares about this however. We MUST know what the Emperor had for breakfast the day he came in a jar to create Horus and which caused male pattern baldness for the latter. We just must know this. That's LORE.

>>718527608
>space marine captain with power sword, bolt pistol and cape
Here you go anon, now show me where I can buy a 1::1 Commander Cyrus model from the released DoW 3 screenshots
>>718527696
They still have those relationships with the tyranids and warp

I am cautiously optimistic.

>>718502468
It's potential was there, but it felt poorly thought out balance wise. Like half the units feel like dead weight that needs to be replaced ASAP.

>>718502468
>Pretty good as single player RTS goes.
it was awful

If it includes a Last Stand mode, I will literally preorder it.

>>718528159
It includes last stand mode

>>718528047
>still needs a headswap
>still doesnt look like gabriel angelos' armour

nice try
now heres your accurate cyrus model that only needs a headswap

>>718525696
40k had plenty of bad games. GW threw their license at loads of studios, most of whom produced nothing but shit.

>>718528221
Preordered.

>>718504672
>DoW3 is better than 2

>>718527979
>Things being left unexplained and open to interpretation is what gives depth to a setting
Nah. Depth of a setting is always left to the whims of the most autistic of the fanbases.
Case in point : everyone that keeps asking why the "unexplained and open to interpretation" eagles didn't just carry the fellowship en masse to mount doom specially when you consider that, from what much was presented in the setting, there are far more eagles than there are fell beasts to stop them.

>>718528297
Pic I posted was multi-part with multiple torso and pauldron options, secondary. Co9uld easily make Angelos

>>718516178
True and also the most based way to play. Starcraft basically killed the RRA genre for years with its gameplay emphasis on competitive ladder style play

>>718528047
You're clearly being intentionally obtuse, all the commanders in dawn of war are pretty original, as are half the other units in the game.

>>718528297
I love his accent.

>>718528954
>named characters are unique
holy crap.....

>>718528047
>They still have those relationships with the tyranids and warp
With tyranids, no. Necrons have nothing in common with Tyranids now. It's no longer a clash of ice and fire, with the Galaxy being in the middle of it. And the relationship with the warp is a shadow of its former self with the C'tan KIA and without that unifying force that could be an actual challenge to the Immaterium

>>718528685
it cant, I literally owned one of those kits
it does not have the accurate parts to make angelos

>>718529261
Not cyrus though! Fucking retard.

The necrons never had a relationship with the Tyranids. Fuck outta here.

>>718501214 (OP)
>Orks, robogyptians, spess mehreens, and toaster fuckers
Where is guy with lasgun?

>>718529375
>It's no longer a clash of ice and fire
Still is, what specifically, in your own words, do you mean?
>without that unifying force that could be an actual challenge to the Immaterium
Represented by the Necrons themselves now
>>718529395
Which parts, specifically?
>>718529412
Brown currycel misses my point entirely

>>718525534
it really looks like its grid based

I can finally play my beloved Necrons again.

>>718528407
>Case in point : everyone that keeps asking why the "unexplained and open to interpretation" eagles didn't just carry the fellowship en masse to mount doom specially when you consider that, from what much was presented in the setting, there are far more eagles than there are fell beasts to stop them.
There were tens of thousands of orcs next to Mt. Doom, and we know that the Ring can corrupt anything nearby, including eagles.
Anyone who asks that question is retarded, a troll or both.

>10 commanders
Predict them

>>718527753
god damn it- if i wasn't on a craptop i'd try adapting that TLOU2 macro

>>718530062
>Marines:
>Captain
>Librarian
>Termie captain
>Chaplain

>Necrons:
>Overlord
>Cyptek

>Admech
>Techpriest dominus
>Skitarii marshal

>Orks:
>Warboss
>Bigmek/weirdboy

>>718529732
Kill yourself, you're either trolling or retarded

Who is the Necron Overlord?

>>718530469
What’s wrong Ramjeet, worried it might be too many rupees?

>>718530062
>phobos captain
>gravis captain
>librarian

>techpriest enginseer
>techpriest dominus

>warboss in mega armor
>beastboss on a squigosaur

>chronomancer
>overlord
>hexmark destroyer

>>718527479
Plus the Afrika Korps surrendered in Tunis a couple months before the Allies invaded Sicily.

>>718529916
>There were tens of thousands of orcs next to Mt. Doom
First, there wasn't. There were orkc there, yes. But not in those numbers. The bulk of Saurons newly found orc army were the orcs and uruks made in isengard, that's why the place getting purged by the ents was a huge blow to the remaining defenses Sauron had for the black gate.
Second, what the fuck they gonna do? Stare menacingly as the eagles soar too far up in the sky to hit with bows?
>and we know that the Ring can corrupt anything nearby, including eagles
It took damn near the entirety of the story for Frodo to get corrupted by the ring, and Boromir himself survived the allure well past their travel through moria.
Flying eagle airlines would have gotten them to mount doom and back in a far shorter time than it took them to get to rivendell, far too short a time for any of them, even the eagles, to get corrupted past the point of no return.

>>718501658
? literally every map is symmetrical like mobas

>>718531005
retard

>>718531081
ok, enjoy your symmetrical tiny maps, faggot. i'll keep playing dow.

>>718509248
the lasers/bullets arent even coming from the guns, theyre coming out of their chests lmao

>>718531005
Not to the extent dow3 was. You could fold any dow3 map at the middle and the points would all line up.

>>718531148
With symmetrical tiny maps?

>>718529732
legs, torso, shoulderpads

>>718525534
why does the orc building just fly in?...

>>718531373
Fell from the Rok

>>718531340
They look all the same

>>718522949
Admech is gay. Primaris are gay.
Game is dead on arrival without the Guard.

>>718531631
You can always play company of heroes

>>718531180
Where are you seeing that

>>718531631
Thats funny, the first DoW wasnt

>>718525534
no titans? feel like they would've shown them if they were adding them

>>718531671
Its not the same. Bombing Russians is only superficially similar to bombing Orks.

>>718531497
blind

>>718531794
Titans are way above the scale of these confilct. The footage does show a knight Castellan

>>718525534
The way shit is moving looks like a mobile game lane auto battler type thing lol

>>718531906
If there is an autistic little line or flair in his armor that I am missing then do let me know

>>718531992
You are legitimately blind if you're not trolling so there's no point. If you can't see where there or are not massive eagle heads, you're just too dumb to get this point.

>>718532102
You mean the company veteran shoulder pads? I guess a basic kitbash is pretty zany to a secondary

>>718531631
That's not even what they are called. And they likely won't be added. Chaos and Tyranids, if this even gets any expansions. But if its anything like 3, it won't.

>>718532228
I think guard should be a call-in fodder NPC unit, like Italians in CoH 3

>I'VE SEEN A TOTAL OF TEN SECONDS OF GAMEPLAY AND CAN CONFIRM IT'S SHIT
>THE UNIT CARDS ARE SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN THE ARBITRARY STANDARDS I SET IN MY HEAD SO IT'S A MOBILE GAME
>IT'S NOT ENOUGH LIKE DOW1
>IT'S NOT ENOUGH LIKE DOW2
>IT'S NOT ENOUGH LIKE DOW3
>IT DOESN'T HAVE MY FAVORITE FACTION
These threads have been trash

>>718532349
If this were a Relic game, I could see that happening. Shame it isn't.

>>718531756
>They weren't in DoW1
What do you mean?

>>718531631
Fuck your IG. I want Eldar.

>>718532180
Painting miniatures requires an eye for detail you don't have so I can't imagine you own anything other than like 15 contrast slopped intercessors and an unpainted whatever the fuck a primaris tank is called

>>718532449
>IT DOESN'T HAVE MY FAVORITE FACTION
I think this is a valid complaint for Warhammer fags. Its always Space Marines, Chaos, and sometimes Orks.

>>718532449
You can, unironically, tell if a game will be good given 1 screenshot with 95%+ accuracy.

>>718519206
As a person That played both for some time, nah.
MP is far more polished in CoH3 (even more than CoH2) right now alone.

>>718532540
Listen secondary, if you can point out 1 (one) truly unique detail on the Dow model I will concede.

>>718532449
This time, it actually HAS my favourite faction (Necrons).

>>718532540
>32mm models
>eye for detail
lol
Lmao

>>718532629
You are intentionally missing the point and I hate you so I'd rather just tell you to kill yourself

Kill yourself. Nigger.

>>718531924
are "knights" the ones they put in 3? I thought those were titans. But anyway I didnt see the knight in the trailer. Cool if those are in though.

>>718532786
>the point is that it isn’t like a model
>ok it is like a model, but it’s the only game my jeetputer can run so it’s good
Kek

>>718532538
Its quite literally repolish of DoW3, I can tell from animations.
So Rejoice!
Eldars are as good as confirmed.

This game look way too much like DoW 3 for my liking but I can't put my finger on why.

>>718532449
>IT'S NOT ENOUGH LIKE DOW3
NOBODY LIKES DOW3

>cyrus is just the phobos captain with a head swap
>just like that dude in sm2

GW must tell them they HAVE to make everything the model.

>>718532848
>are "knights" the ones they put in 3
Yes.
Knights are smaller than the smallest titan.

the 40k mid-curse continues.

Yes, you get one fucking chance to finally make Dawn of War 4, and you pick the fucking Iron Harvest devs to do it?
It's self-sabotage, I can barely accept anything else.

I'd unironically sooner respect bringing back the entire DOW3 devteam because at least they have to understand what went wrong.

>>718533196
What’s wrong with an authentic adaptation? Would you prefer female marines?

>>718533274
Dunno what you're going on about anon.
People thought WWZ was pretty mid and they ended up making SM2, which everyone looked upon favorably until that one update that added cohesion.

>>718533301
Do you think every single phobos captain in every chapter wears that stupid little sash in the exact same way

I remember when furries were more cringe than schlophammer.
How times change.

>>718533470
It’s heresy not to

>>718533505
Now that you mention it, yea

>>718518820
based opinion haver.
Also need sync kills, DOW3 was a sterile mess.

>>718533274
It's not like there's many other RTS devs left to choose from anyway

>>718524581
Looks like a Chronomancer

>>718533470
it makes lore sense

cyrus, as a blood raven, stole the armour from the ultramarines guy

>>718533685
I posted about it in another thread but there are so many talented devs out there right now making classic style fps, platformers, beat em ups, shooters, rpgs and adventure games.
You're telling me you can't get a few maniacs together to make ONE solid rts? With Games Workshop backing? What the fuck

They just have to be doing this shit on purpose lol

>>718502261
Why you lying?

>>718527753
>buenos dias, fuckboi

>>718534135
I mean, we saw what happened when "industry veterens" were allowed free rein

Hopefully with this studio being fairly new on the block, their creative freedom and quality control will be tightly held.

>>718525534
A couple of cool details here. In the first scene, a canoptek spyder is sort of climbing on a dreadnought, and it is reacting in a synchronized way, I think combat animations will be not just sync kills, but synced while the units are fighting. There's also the dreadnought squishing an ork before picking up another and a third hanging on to its arm while that happens.

>>718533628
It has sync kills
>>718534135
>we need to bring in devs who make epic bing bing wahoo games!
I’d rather bring in a studio that has experience in a genre

>>718534384
>I’d rather bring in a studio that has experience in a genre
Apparently they don't exist

And
>classic style fps, platformers, beat em ups, shooters, rpgs and adventure games.
is not bing bing wahoo trash!

>>718534135
A game workshop IP rts is the 56th most played steam game as of right now, what the fuck are you talking about

>>718532449
>>IT DOESN'T HAVE MY FAVORITE FACTION
Custodes DLC when?

>>718524275
Define marvel trash in such a way that it doesn't make you look like either a sharteen, a secondary, or an autist having a meltdown.

>>718534582
Obviously I'm too drunk for this. What goddamn Games Workshop rts is pushing the top 50 most played on Steam?

That sounds awesome. Is it good? Get those people to work on DOW4 then

>>718527181
>the entire range looks like dogshit
Not really most of it is good.

>>718517470
Cute migu

>>718525534
>>718529768
>>718531985
dow 3.5 btw

Why is it always Blood Ravens and Orks?

>>718534986
total war

So this is it, huh?
Eldar are officially in the same relevancy tier as Tau and Votann as super NPC factions?
Necrons are clearly now the new face of (intelligent) xenos.

>>718535296
That doesn't look like DoW3 at all, although it doesn't look like 1 or 2 either
It's a weird mix of Total War, mobile games and 40K

>>718520058
>Normalfags playing RTS
oh HO HO HOO!

>>718535510
Skeletons are cooler than elves, sorry bud

I do like mechanicus but as base game(or more likely one of the only 4) factions there are better choices

>>718535510
Good.
Eldars look stupid as fuck.

>>718535675
They're a good expansion race but they're my favourites so it's nice to see them.

QRD on Primaris? What exactly are they and why does everyone hate them? I think their helm design is pretty cool, they look like they could be a limited elite unit.

>>718535854
Redesign for space marines about 10 years. Really really really bad fluff. Like insanely retarded fanfic tier. And they have completely replaced the old iconic designs.

>>718535854
Lore wise people hate them because they exist to replace regular space marines. Figure wise people hate them because they lean too much into tacticool when warhammer's not really all about leaning heavily into that.

this fixed fully isometric view is so ugly

>>718534601
What would custodes offer that space marines can't? Serious question because I know nothing about them except that they're bigger and golder

>>718524704
Necrons being Souless terminator-like bots is why I like them.
I don't want my old grumpy skeletons to talk, I want the skeletons to slowly walk towards the living and atomize them.
Simple as.

>>718536204
>I want the skeletons to slowly walk towards the living and atomize them.
But they literally still do that.

>>718535854
Around a decade ago all of 40k was rewritten to make everything trademarkable, without care for past continuity or preserving the feeling of IP.
That is why everything now looks so clean and sterile.

>>718535430
Creative Assembly? Yeah they should make a 40k game

I never played it but I understand people weren't too happy with Warhammer 3 though

>>718532576
Well, chaos is not one of the starter factions in this game

>>718535854
It was a really greedy thing to do when they released them because marinefags had buy their army again plus it had really retarded lore on release and dumb designs. Nowadays they are fine albeit unnecessary and their biggest lore rape is just that they are an asspull (marines did/do this constantly so it's whatever)

>>718526197
30k mogs 40k so hard, but the pistoleers on horseback are cool, i hope they make it into the game.

>>718536270
While one stands behind them acting like a scooby doo villain. Kinda ruins the vibe

>>718536018
They're more elite than space marines meaning lower unit counts but higher individual strength
While visually similar to space marines they are their own faction with various unique units that would be cool to see in a videogame
They have really neat hover bikes, the coolest dreadnoughts in the setting and plenty of crazy weaponry reserved exclusively for them
And they are space marines natural predator

>Return to "Kronos"
>Chromomancer
I bet there will be some time travel shit.

>>718532449
>IT DOESN'T HAVE MY FAVORITE FACTION
This is a perfectly valid reason not to buy a 40k game to be fair. After all it's all about playing your guys so it makes sense.

whats important is that the eldar got shafted. i think the game has a chance.

>>718526197
heil hitler mechanicum?

>>718535854
>space marine are emost popular faction
>make "new improved" marines
>taller models makes your 20+ year old collection look like a bunch of manlets
>stronger than all your old models -- both in rules and lore
>shitty lore to justy their exsistance in universe (the imperium isn't supposed to invent new stuff)
>try to create improved primeris-ified versions old units, but make them way uglier and give them confusing (trademarkable) names.
>kill off a lot of the unique aesthetic every chapter used to have

>>718535328
because that is "Dawn of War'
Dawn of War is about Blood Ravens, it made up the chapter and always centered around them, it isn't DoW without them
Orks were the first enemies in DoW and were the only other faction in the demo

>>718536654
We need some girl power female custodes putting toxically masculine space marines in their place. Keep an eye out for the Amazon show, by the way. Wink wink.

>>718535854
Primaris are badly written, the lore needs more flavour than just "This marine is better than the other marines, because We say so."
The primaris could have worked if they had flaws with their improvements, but right now they are straight upgrades to regular marines.

"Secondaries" is such a toothless Twitter sodomite insult from most likely someone who doesn't play videogames that it ironically makes them "secondary" in this thread for you know, videogame?
Its not a boost to credibility to buy plastic from the sodomite parent company.

>>718535510
I hate space clowns, eldar / dark eldar are cool but clown eldar are hyper tranny tier. a single space clown has done more damage to the eldar race reputation then any space marine book killing millions of eldar ever could

>>718536272
essentially this.

>>718501214 (OP)
the necron green glow is peek aesthetic

>>718501214 (OP)
this is dow remaster? holy fuck its so fucking over. what the fuck are those total war units selectionn.

>>718538121
>this is dow remaster?
no

>new game gets announced for anticipated series
>threads immediately get filled with retards making the most retarded claims despite the footage everyone watched
I've been here for over a decade but this still never fails to astound me. It's not even a fun shitpost to make since they just get BTFO instantly, so I'm inclined to believe that they are 100% serious about it.

>>718537957
When people say 'Secondaries' I think they are talking about the currently secret, unannounced Secondaris Marines that will make you have to buy another Space Marine army in ~2-3 years. These ones are 12 feet tall and have 25 organs and can, get this, even be female

>>718538168
tortanic ruined video game discussion on this board forever

>>718515882
The simplification of base building wasn't a huge issue in DoW2, it was the entire lack of combat fortifications (outside of meme shit like taking a techmarine) like CoH had.

Just like battle sectors each will have a sub faction also all at the low low price of just 30 $ per faction oh and they will also make modding damn near impossible / impracticle so you WILL have to pay for their dog shit.

GW 40k fat sperg cock suckers will still pay for em and call it fair

>>718537957
warhammer is actually the only hobby that needs to be saved from the primaries by the secondaries. The people who still buy the models and books are completely devastating the lore

>>718516487
My main problem is that it's made by those Iron Harvest niggers. I was really excited for that game. I wasn't as excited after it released and I got to play it. And now those niggers got their grubby hands on DoW somehow.

>>718538540
Who would you have given it to? Relic? lol

>John French writing
>best known for Ahriman books

Uhhhhh... BloodRavenbros.......?

>>718535854
Outside of lore, it was a super shitty maneuver to make money. The only good part about primaris models is that they now don't look stumpy and short, but even then, it still served the purpose of forcing you to get primaris marines if you didn't want an army of stunted looking marines. Their lore was poorly written, the design looks sleek and not gritty, and the redesign was only done because they were capitalizing on a huge boost in fans.

>>718501214 (OP)
is it an rts, or is it more like 3?

>>718535854
>ok heres my OC for DnD for the last 30 years
>WELL THEN HERES MY OC FOR DND WHOSE BETTER THAN YOUR DUMB OC AT EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE LOVES MY OC AND ALWAYS EXISTED

>>718538505
People that still buy GW plastic are addicts and you cannot convince me otherwise.
40k and WHF are good in spite of GW and the faggot tabletop players.

>>718501819
>Primarislop
You fuckers really need to get over this. Firstborn have been done for 4/5-years now. Either leave the hobby like you always say you will or deal with it. Primaris have been the standard since 2019, it's been 6-years.

>>718538561
Unironically to CA. Total War 40k is a shit idea but the team at CA who made Halo Wars 2 was competent enough to make a dawn of war game. Throw in the total war devs who want to work on 40k to make a grand strategy campaign mode like Dark Crusade and Soulstorm had and boom everyone is happy. Now we're bound to get 2 mid games instead of 1 great one.

>>718535854
New thing bad, old thing good, but unironically
Look up Sanguinary Guard to get a sense of the problem
Not everything is like that, GW has improved models a lot. But that's the best example of why the hate is there.

>>718535854
space marines are the number one money maker for the company
primaris are the revamped space marine line that makes marine players buy their armies all over again

>>718538168
>anticipated series
Lmao lets not pretend 3 didn't kill every single persons hope for this series if the change from 1->2 didn't already and I say that having played 2 like 30 times in coop.

>>718513013
>It wasn't like Soulstorm, on which the playerbase was divisive but eventually recovered.
Wasn't into 40K when Soulstorm came out but I always heard this. Why was Soulstorm hated? Was it just the campaign?

>>718537783
>the imperium isn't supposed to invent new stuff
While this is true, this doesn't apply to the primaris though. The primaris function on the same "innovation is not invention" logic that gave the mechanicum their nigh perpetual engine ironstrider engines. Where the ironstrider was "take a seeker and strap this crazy engine powered by motion onto it", primaris are "lets take a space marine and jam these 2 other organs that we figured out from reverse engineering a primarch".

>nucrons
Turbo newfaggot here, could someone give me a qrd? Google gives nothing/

>>718535854
Stupid redisign to make Space Marines more clean cut and marvelesque while giving them truescale.
Problem is they fuck up the both the lore and the gameplay tabletopwise while regular Chaos Marines got truescales without fucking up anything mayor and most people like the new models. Meanwhile Primaris Marines get stupid as fuck Hasbro tier designs like >>718522497 and >>718519841 while GW cutting forever regular classic space marines.

>>718539557
>I hate because bigger batman
>actual bigger batman gets made and is VERY positively received
kek this shit aged like milk

>>718510348
yeah, it feels like a shitty mobile turn based game

>>718539525
Necrons got a lore rework with 5th edition. So instead of tyranids but metal, they're space tomb kings.

>>718539019
Campaign was bad but also it ruined the balance with bad implementation of new units (mostly aircraft)

>>718539525
Imagine terminators but in space, black metal, eerie green glow.
Then imagine giving them all gay sci-fi egyptian names and the leaders act and talk like cartoons

>>718540067
Damn, this post isn't made by a bitter biased faggot at all.

>>718539682
except thats batman but big, not bigger batman

>>718539682
Absolute Batman is a pretty cool guy but I am sick and tired of stories, in whatever medium, doing the childhood flashbacks interspersed throughout the whole story. If you want to do a childhood flashback do it once and finish it one go please it is so obnoxious to read a story and get thrown back into a barely related flashback every 5 minutes like it's an ad break

>>718537968
space clowns are kino and the only eldar GW writers respect. them mogging self-serious chaos/marine/custardfags is always hilarious.

yeah im gonna need about 100 baneblades that should be enough

>>718539746
>>718540067
shid, was not aware of this, unfortunate

>>718539525
Old necrons: Silent soulless robot slaves to the C'tan star gods

New necrons: Quirky squabbling old-timey nobles with super technology (the C'tan are their slaves)

See:

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Zahndrekh

This is a british don quijote who thinks everyone he fights is a rebel of his own race and says things like "jolly good pip pip old chap"

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Trazyn

This is a character written by someone who thought the blood ravens stealing everything meme was funny and decided to make a character whose gimmick is to try to steal everything

He has stolen custodes, grey wardens, and is trying to steal the emperor

He once sued another necron for damaging his collection and when they went to court the judge got mad when he saw that some of his collection was stolen ancestral heirlooms from the judge's clan

>>718540210
>reee it doesn't count because it's different universe
Still aged like milk.

>>718539557
>>718539682
>the market analyst was right
>the writer and comics fan were wrong
The tragedy of american comics

>>718540381
A lot of people actually love the newcrons because the old ones basically had no lore and personality at all

>>718540429
>anon willfully ignores the first part of the bigger batman imahe where it says "there is interest in making batman bigger and would go down well with fans"

absolute batman is this

>>718540471
Good

>>718539557
This is a retarded take
Nobody went around and take the popular characters like Dante, Logan or whover the ultrafags like and replaced them with superior primaris versions that were entirely new characters. In fact most legacy characters just became primaris themselves and continued to be super wanked fags (in fact too wanked these days but that's a separate issue)
At this point there is no functional difference between primaris and firstborn beyond the fact they were introduced so fucking stupidly. If the entire thing was
>Cawl found a way to add a few more organs to space marines and make them bigger lads, also Mars got strong armed and opened up the geneseed stashes for a big number of new marines to be made with the new method
Instead of all that retardation about a secret ten thousand year old project to improve the world of the Emperor and some primaris were alive in the HH and other absolutely fucking retarded shit, you'd have the exact same end result. Most named guys become primaris, and most of the chapters take the reinforcements and slowly incorporate the new technique into their rituals for making new battle brothers. Heck at this point you could just drop primaris entirely and say "space marine". And even if you'd gone about it that way you'd still have room for the one interesting thing they tried to do with primaris which was Gabriel's Set entire objection (which you also say in the DA and Wolves ranks)

>>718501214 (OP)
Looks pretty gay like mix of DOW2 and 3. And a true sequel to those games. Where is DOW1 sequel when we need it? What's tthe point of DOW1 Defective Edition then?

>>718501397
they said yes but it that base and map looks ultra tiny so we won't be able to build much

>>718539525
old necrons were tyranids but metal. not really a faction you can write any kind of story with.
new necrons are tomb kings in space, but also they beat their own gods and use them as fuel and weapons.
Since tomb kings are cool, I like the newer necrons. But I also kind of wish they had found a more interesting thing to make them. I like Tomb Kings and all, but we already have Tomb Kings, and it just kind of shows off how every time 40k just takes "warhammer faction, but in SPACE!" it is just objectively worse in every way.

>ork units are mostly beast snaggas

orkbros... we lost.....

how the FUCK do i SoB
why the FUCK do i not get any dedicated melee squads until tier 3

>>718539746
Can't speak for dialogue but overal isnt that what they've always been?
Mindless armies led by eccentric/insane lords that could wipe all factions if they werent busy being retarded with inside squabbles or being a comic relief/convenient mcguffin substitute at critical moments.

>>718502468
it was mid as fuck i haven't even finished campaign and not touched coop or pvp it was that mediocre and boring. Dow4 will feel the same just soulless just like all polecuckold games

>>718540552
That other image isnt absolute batman

>>718539525
Go play the game Mechanicus. GW decided to give the Necrons "personality" so now they talk like 19th Century British lords and officers. Basically, pic related.

>>718540705
No, Old Necrons were just all mindless robots.

>>718540746
i'm responding to the comment not the image

>>718540616
Meganobz, deff dreads and gorkanauts are all in
I'm gonna build some big fucking boyz

>>718540561
t. Imperial Guardsman

>>718501214 (OP)
I hope it will have amazing pathfinding and no collision boxes of DOW1 Defective edition.

I hate when my tanks can't become ghosts i want to put Leman rus into my Baneblade and spin it around.

>>718540782
Way before dark crusade then? Lords and pariahs on kronus were sentient.

>>718538121
Amazing i love how well it runs, how ai textures look, how there are no collision boxes >>718540984 now and you can stack tanks into one blob and also melee units be able to phase through and charge ranged units

>>718540315
"the writers respect", all the writers that can maintain a post at the black library do so by being incel space marine wankers. Its no surprise that they finally like the eldar when they now outwardly represent what the "writers" have always thought inwardly of eldar: clowns.

>>718521823
>>718508539
excuses excuses, these niggers should release 6 factions minimum

>>718502468
Honestly I really liked IH's aesthetic (this is LITERALLY what carried it through its Kickstarter campaign in the first place) but the game itself was like a boring and janky Company of Heroes. The campaign writing was especially bad too. Still, assuming they got one of the Black Library writers and some more experienced devs, I think I'm slightly optimistic. IH at least had some cool ideas and details instead of the lazy 'you'll buy it anyway' slop that was DoW3.

>>718510491
Yes that's the whole army on the bottom. It's the same mechanic from Iron Harvest, the developer's previous game. I hope they copy Stormgate's spacebar all army hotkey

>>718531683
the ork boss and the mechanicus kataphrons

>>718538121
No. It's DoW4 anon

>>718535854
Nobody cares anymore.
GW phased out all the old marines so all marines are now primaris default.
It was just a silly lore reason for marine model size creep.

>>718539557
Bet you 500 bucks this faggot likes "batman, but twink" though.

>>718514579
>Is this just a UE5 problem? It's so damn common.
UE5 = No hand crafted lights + garbage fog + TAA forced to run at lower res = always bad graphics, no clarity and muted colors.

>>718540998
DoW had to have some kind of voice for the necrons, so they just made up that pariahs could talk.

>>718541065
there aren't many eldar writers in the first place. there's gav thorpe who feels they must always suck and lose and there's guy haley who wrote a single book and it was pretty good.
harlequins don't even have any books of their own, but when they appear in other stories they're always cool, creepy, mysterious and powerful. the troupe fucking with fabius bile in his novels, the harlequin in the dark eldar trilogy, etc.

>>718540595
>every time 40k just takes "warhammer faction, but in SPACE!" it is just objectively worse in every way.
I want space skaven

>>718541492
the Imperium is so bad that it messes up two Warhammer factions. It's the Empire of Man, but worse, and it's Skaven, but worse.
It's a two-fer!

>>718540769
It really depends on the writer, a lot of them just speak like generic supervillains

Zandrekh is absolutely a fucking Dad's Army character though.

>>718505780
Wait, are women even allowed in the Ordo Machinum?

>>718539525
3rd Edition Necrons were essentially Terminators in space. They awake from underground tombs, march out as a silent, soulless, nearly unkillable horde, kill everything down to bacteria.
5th Edition Necrons were given special characters, lots of new units and actual stories and lore beyond "wake up, kill everything". The already-present pseudo-Egyptian aesthetic got upgraded too. Flayed Ones got an actual background instead of "robots draping themselves in skin to look scarier". Lots of good novels featuring NuCron characters, too.
To me, it all links perfectly together chronologically. 3rd Edition Necrons were the first to awake, the worst functioning ones, with their memories almost completely erased. Unwashed, rusted horde of animated metal that only remembered how to kill. No one who encountered them knew who the fuck they were or why they did what they did. Then, actual rulers and the nobility awoke, with their memories nearly intact, along with old grudges and butthurt toward each other, and decided to take out their shiniest toys to play.
WH40k really didn't need another faction of "mindlessly kill everything", it already has Tyranids as a perfect galactic boogeyman. Even Orks and Dark Eldar are able to engage in diplomacy from time to time.
Secondaries screeching about muh nucrons can go eat a dick.

>>718541427
In the chaos campaign when you blow up the necron base the pariah talks to the necron lord directly. Whats the point of that if its a mindless machine?

>>718506335
Not playing on a pedophile console is the opposite of being a troon, tendie.

>>718541120
>Still, assuming they got one of the Black Library writers and some more experienced devs, I think I'm slightly optimistic.
Well they haven't made anything since Iron Harvest and DoW3 also had writing help from someone writing books for GW. That's where they got the somersalting Angelos from.

>>718541645
@grok fact check

>>718535854
I never cared much, though I don't play the tabletop. I just find it funny how people just keep seething about it for the past 10 years

>>718541465
Dark Eldar writing is all over the place, too. They go from hyper-agile, extremely intelligent fighters who can give a Space Marine Champion a run for their money to braindead cannon fodder that even Guardsmen can go toe-to-toe.

>>718505780
What about female-lead nucrons?

>>718501214 (OP)
>Didn't learn from the absolute disaster of 3.
I legitimately do not understand how people are this stupid.

>>718525534
Something looks very off about it, I can't pinpoint. It looks too much like a mobile game, very cartoony and clean, everything floaty and low impact.

>>718509248
I just can't shag off the feeling that it looks like a fucking mobile game again.

>>718535854
>Okay, I've got it! Hear me out:
>What if we take our space marines and...
>...follow me here...
>...make them DOUBLE space marines!?
>You know that second heart? Well now they have three!
>They're already big? Make them even bigger!
>And they all came from a super-secret fortress on Mars were there were literally hundreds of thousands of these incredibly important super soldiers just hanging around for the last century or two while the galaxy was in peril.
>But when they're not in the latest lore, everyone says "Where's Poochie, the Primaris Space Marine?"
>And every original marine is like 'man i wish i was a pimarary iss...'
>SO THEY CAN UPGRADE INTO DOUBLE MARINES!
>And the players need to BUY their favorite characters a SECOND TIME!
>Also they have better weapons and armor because it's Primaris-size only.
>And they're gonna be tactical-er-
>-and they gonna be cooler-
>-and we'll only release them as Primaris from now on!

>>718541681
DoW writers wanted the thing to talk to the necron lord.
I can't stress enough that a lot of things were just made up for the necrons to make them a faction that would work in a single player RTS.

>>718541645
You niggerlibrary retards will never be real warhammer 40k fans.

>>718542067
Post minis.

>>718541881
I know its necron but
>female
>no tits or ass + ugly face
>not even a sleek helmet like head for people with taste

>>718541983
You forgot powered suits for their powered armour

>>718541938
That mobile game has better readability and more vivid and real colors than UE5 slop DOW4

Games Workshop once said new Necrons lore would explicitly not be Tomb Kings in space.
I do not forget, nor forgive lying.

>>718541881
>female-lead
What's the fucking point of even distinguishing them sexually, they died before the first life even appeared in Terran oceans, and have been lumps of metal for 60+ million years.

>>718541645
I love Newcrons so much. And no, I am not a tranny.

>>718542284
Tokenism and virtue signalling and I am not being fallacious or sarcastic

The fucking Trazyn novel has a noble executioner with a super scythe and she's LITERALLY only there to signal that necrons have strong independent women in important roles. She doesn't actually do anything, isn't a codex character, and has never appeared again.

>>718542167
God, I did forget that.
I wanted so hard to forget that...

>>718542267
they said that before they realized their writers couldn't think of anything

>>718542284
Having a female soul is the important thing.
T. Gamesworkshop that thinks cutting off your dick makes you a woman.

>>718538725
Which hobby would that be? This is the board for videogames in a thread about a video game, the tabletop isn't even secondary here it's tertiary.

>>718542284
Well, they are all copies of existing sentient humanoids shoved into robots, so statistically roughly half of them ARE female.
The problem is robots looks like robots, and they don't need big ol' robot titties.
Having female Necrons isn't outlandish. It just shouldn't be a big selling point.

>>718542106
I was playing fantasy before you were even born you retarded piece of shit

>>718542449
>>718542518
I kind of liked the female Necron Lord from one of the Eldar novels where they crack open what they thought was some ancestral treasure trove in the middle of a tomb world and Slaaneshi demons start pouring out. The Necron Lord appears and gives them a lecture on how even after millions of years, the Eldar behave like retards.
But there was no point in making that particular Lord female. Robots do not have sexual characteristics.

>>718542760
Like I said, tokenism and virtue signalling about having strong independent women in your fiction

>>718542710
Of course you were. Post minis. With a timestamp.

>>718542284
This may shock you anon, but it some species, females are 50% of the population

>>718542702
>so statistically roughly half of them ARE female.
Yes but also no, they lost their souls and all the necrons bodies were the same, age, gender, social status (except for the very top end) doesn't matter, all the necrons are the same thing, without the different biological patterns in their brain there isn't any difference at all between male and female.

>>718542856
Post your steam hours for 40k games.

>>718536272
Is that why the Guard are now "Astra Militarum" and Eldar are now "Aeldari" or whatever?

>>718542856
I'm not posting shit, those are a part of my books, all the minis have been stored away for years now, how about you provide proof you aren't a retarded zoomer that started yesterday? Oh wait you are, because only a moron can quote nigger library garbage.

>>718542702
>>718542858
>>718542894
In this case, why does only Necron nobility get female bodies? Don't regular warriors and immortals get some, too?

>>718542971
>except for the very top end
in any case, that is also nucrons-nugw shit.

>everyone hates primaris
>lots of people hate nucrons
>only me and a few other people seem to hate sniggers
COME ON WHERE MY HOMIES AT FUCK SNIGGERS

>>718542926
>40k games
I could smell your DoWfaggotry through the damn screen. You're not even a secondary, you're a fucking tertiary.
>steam hours
I played Space Hulk long before Steam even existed. Bite me.

>>718543093
I'll join you in your hate if you explain what sniggers stands for because I genuinely never heard that one.

>>718543128
So 0 hours? Not even 1 game?
Youre in a videogame board and videogame thread nigger the only one who isnt in the loop here is your nigger as with 0 hours of VIDEOGAMES.

>>718542971
Becasue only the nobility got bespoke bodies. It was one of the perks of being nobility to entice them to do it. Everyone else got standard templates.
Also, the nature of Necrodermis is also that with enough ability, they can just change how their body looks, within some kind of reason, probably their own concept of what a body looks like, so they're not turning into fucking dragons or anything.

>>718542969
>all the minis have been stored away for years now
Uh huh.

>>718543379
I accept your concession.

>>718539557
>bigger batman argument
No ya don't. You hate primaris because of shit execution. Pic related is all but literally the bigger batman scenario you have, ticking off a vast majority of checkboxes.

>>718543325
>Becasue only the nobility got bespoke bodies. It was one of the perks of being nobility to entice them to do it. Everyone else got standard templates.
I thought the C'tan tricked them into doing it, since standard bodies getting memory loss over time wasn't even in the fine print.
>Also, the nature of Necrodermis is also that with enough ability, they can just change how their body looks, within some kind of reason, probably their own concept of what a body looks like
So that explains why Flayed Ones turn into fucked-up Freddy Krueger expys after getting infected. Still weird.

>>718543493
Like I care, DoWfag.

>>718539557
GKs were already bigger marines
Then we had custodes that were bigger bigger marines
Now there's primaris that are marine 2.0 better in everything while raping the lore and GW gave the most retarded excuse for them as well, both in and outside of the lore, they could've simply re-released a true scale range like they did with chaos over the years and we would've bought them anyway, because they do look better (not with that new shitty helmet though).

>>718542167
lol wtf
were dreads not enough?

>>718543570
Destroyers turn into their hover bodies once they get infected as well.

>>718543636
You care enough zoomer, slop down some more nigger library semen made for low IQ people from failed authors.

>>718543501
That's not the Bigger Batman scenario at all
That's a passing on the torch scenario as good old batman reaches retirement age and lets a successor take over. Terry isn't in a Bigger situation where he overshadows old Batman, he's younger and fitter but also less experienced and the show treats old Batman with respect as a mentor

>>718542167
>You forgot powered suits for their powered armour

>>718542963
Unfortunately.
Can't copyright Imperial Guard or Eldar. Too common.

>>718543636
You came into a vidya board & thread to tell us how little you care? Just stop embarrassing yourself and leave mr.0hours

>>718543237
>Sniggers?
Maybe Squats? Like, the new ones to replace them, the Voltan or whatever?

>>718543237
"beast snagga boys" or sniggers as I like to call them were a sub faction of orks that literally no one asked for but gw decided to make anyway. their gimmick is that they're more primitive than regular orks and hunt giant squigs. this wouldn't be terrible in itself, but they got a ton of new toys and rules written to force people to use them, while other actually popular sub factions got totally shafted.

>>718543725
>>718543815

>>718543681
>while raping the lore
No one in the lore likes the Primaris, except for Robby's blue boys. Blood Angels think they are parodies of Space Marines, Imperial Fists think they are huge pussies, Space Wolves gave up on them once they realized they mutate into Wulfen too, Dark Angels straight up consider them Guilliman's spies and use them as meat shields, mind-wiping the survivors between missions. It is stated in many novels that Primaris are the new guy on the block with very big shoes to fill.
>GW gave the most retarded excuse for them as well, both in and outside of the lore

>>718544009
>GW gave the most retarded excuse for them as well, both in and outside of the lore
Meant for >>718543681
Please elaborate.

>>718544009
And Earth thinks they're girlyman's personal troops and that he's planning on usurping the golden throne as horus mk 2

>>718523035
They weren't, the Corvidae branch were seers and diviners who foresaw that their chapter was about to go down the shits and betray the Emperor so they fucked off far away and half of them reached Terra to surrender themselves and the other half got murked in the warp reappearing after the Heresy.

>>718543797
>That's a passing on the torch scenario as good old batman reaches retirement age and lets a successor take over
Except he doesn't need to pass on the torch.
We have multiple stories of Batman still doing his thing well into his golden years, with some stories even having him commenting that shit makes him feel young and alive again, like picrel with his bigger batmobile.

>>718543996
>everyone converts this guy into a dreadnought suit to hide the babycarrier look
>I want to build one and clip the arms and legs shorter to make him look even more pathetic
He's gray little baby piloting the big baby walker suit it's so cute

>>718509248
>Cinematic kill with the dreadnought
>Grabs and ork while another one is holding on to the arm
Looks nice if nothing else. Hopefully they find a good compromise for it on gameplay though, in vanilla DoW2 cinematic kills made the unit invulnerable, in Retribution they take full damage and die due to animation lock.

>>718508539
>25 year old game has less
no shit sherlock

>>718544168
>the Corvidae branch were seers and diviners
The same guys who were led by fucking Ahriman?
>who foresaw that their chapter was about to go down the shits and betray the Emperor so they fucked off far away and half of them reached Terra to surrender themselves
And no one in TS expected or predicted their defection? What a load of bullshit.

>>718544413
25 years ago was a much better time for the RTS genre

>>718518554
Let's be honest, the old Relic is dead at this point. I don't think any of the original staff that made Homeworld, CoH1, or DoW1 is still around, and hell there's probably none of the DoW2/CoH2 staff left either. It's just a name at this point.