Thread 718519045

what's the worst vidya puzzle ever made?

>>718519045 (OP)
Tears of the Kingdom

>>718519045 (OP)
is this that game with the mouse bandit who can put you in negative gold? fuck him

>>718519045 (OP)
the quiz in killer7, but i think you can type eagle in any entry to skip it
>open puzzle
>not a puzzle
>10 question quiz
>have to write down all the questions
>answers are in audio logs you collect around the map
>listen to 10 audio logs to find the answers
>if you didnt have the audio logs when you arrived enjoy the backtracking
>type in all the answers using a controller

Monkey Wrench

>>718522226
Monkey wrench at least has a means of figuring it out, even if it's a bad pun. I'd say cat hair mustache has it beat.

>>718522597
The pun only works if you are from USA (And even then you may only know the tool as a "pipe wrench"), it was a non-sensical puzzle for like 99% of the world.

>>718519045 (OP)
I can't see any pattern

>>718523179
point and click puzzles dont count imo cause 99% of them can be brute forced by combining all items with everything else

>>718519045 (OP)
Probably something Sierra came up with ages ago.

>>718519045 (OP)
those old "puzzles" consisting of consulting something that came printed in the box along with the software
it was a form of copy protection disguised as something "fun"
example is from Life and Death, where you have to enter a beeper number to gain access to the OR for the first time. if you don't return the old fuck's call on the golf course wishing you luck on your upcoming butchering of a patient, they just let the patient die without your help and then you get reprimanded in med school

>>718519045 (OP)
Yes, I saw this on reddit too OP

>>718519045 (OP)
The musical cipher in Underrail: Expedition
It's also very based

most bullshit? probably La Mulana 2 or pick your favorite Layton game
laughably bad? Bioshock infinite
completely incomprehensible? any point n click adventure game
actually kino? Phantom Hourglass

>>718523361
That's because it's not a Pattern, exactly. It's the scores of the winning team in the superbowl. This is a japanese game, as a reminder.

>>718519045 (OP)
layton games BY FAR

>>718524790
la mulana 2 is actually complete-able without a wiki unlike (for most poeple) la mulana 1. or at least it is now that the translation bug with anubis

>>718525071
i'm going to be sick

>>718525621
i beat la mulana 1 (haven't got around to 2 yet), i did have to use a guide a bunch of times, i wouldn't say much of the game was bullshit, it's just really really hard. you really gotta explore every inch of every screen, think outside the box and even map out the whole game on paper and note down every bit of dialogue etc. i didn't have the patience so i ended up cheating but i still loved the game. but ye idk how 'unfair' it really is, just brutal

>>718525071
>spoiler
jesus fuck why

>>718525071
that's can't be real

>>718522226
Fuck you, I figured it out as a kid.

>>718519045 (OP)
The rubber duck puzzle from the longest journey still makes me seethe to this day. Hate looking up guides in single player games so i spent i really long time doing random shit until i gave in. Such bullshit belongs in a shitty ARG not a video game

>>718525071
>isreal
What the fuck. How the hell is 96% of the world supposed to figure this out. I can't imagine most Americans even know this series, let alone be able to make the necessary connection to solve the puzzle. What were they thinking!

>>718525621
I know one of the lines was missing on release but I remember not having trouble with that specific riddle anyway, there were a lot of other puzzles that were way harder.
What was it that they forgot? Where to chant? I don't think I would have known to use the djed pillar otherwise so it probably had the incant line.
I think the only bullshit part is in 1 in getting to hell temple. But that's completely optional so I don't think it's that bad.

>>718530037
Shouldn't this be 5?

Sliding puzzles. I love Fatal Frame 4 but I break out a sliding puzzle solver whenever I get back to this part.

>>718530037
Layton games are intellectually dishonest

>>718530167
Sliding puzzles are pretty easy when you know the trick to solving them

>>718530037
holy fuck this one is like insulting

>>718519045 (OP)
Mandatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg

>>718530118
If 5 cats can catch 5 mice in 5 minutes then we can deduce that 1 cat could catch 1 mouse in minute. Therefore if that one cat proceeded to catch 1 mouse every minute for 100 minutes then he would catch 100 mice.

That is, unless the cats are performing some advanced team-based mice-herding technique which necessitate 5 cats and would fail with a lesser number of cats. This is a bit of a stretch though. And by the same logic you could argue that 100 mice are capable of advanced team-based cat-avoidance techniques. In any case, basic real-world human reasoning should tell us that a cat can catch a mouse in a minute.

>>718519045 (OP)
>If 5 cats can catch 5 mice in 5 minutes then we can deduce that 1 cat could catch 1 mouse in minute.
no. 1 cat would catch a mouse in 5. it's thanks to the cooperation effort that they get 1 per minute

is the answer to the puzzle really 1? I refuse to believe it

>>718525071
Is this a localization thing or was it so originally too?

>>718531052
>>718530898
Forgot to mention: your answer basically implies that the other cats just stay afk and don't do anything when one is catching a mouse

>>718530898
>If 5 cats can catch 5 mice in 5 minutes then we can deduce that 1 cat could catch 1 mouse in minute.
No because if you assume that 1 cat catches 1 mouse in 1 minute you're saying that for the 5 cats 5 mice 5 minutes (which the problem treats as a fact) that the cats take turns and after they get 1 mouse they stop catching to let the others which is wildly unrealistic.
The only thing you can deduce from that is that 5 cats can catch mouses at a rate of 1 mouse/minute. I won't believe any answer that isn't 5 cats.

I think the guy who wrote Layton's puzzles deserves to be punched

>>718531403
sometimes they're absolutely retarded
>how many owls are in the picture?
>it's actually what you said +1 because you didn't see the grass on the ground resembling one :)

>>718519045 (OP)
Your moms pussy!

Get out of my sight, OP!

Check my dubs

>>718531403
I think he died

>>718531502
Good

>>718519045 (OP)
skyrim doors
not only it's fucking piss easy
but on PC there was no examine prompt (bethesda indian tier QC), so some chunk of players didn't know you could zoom in and rotate items

bethesda deserves bankruptcy

>>718519045 (OP)
And they included this shit in Deltarune too, except the secret easy solution no longer works.

>>718519045 (OP)
>Dungeon Encounters
This is by far the most boring, uninteresting bare-minimum effort RPG game I've ever fucking played. Zero imagination.

>>718531915
I thought it was an interesting concept
You're supposed to use your own imagination to fill in the gaps, the minimalism is intentional

What the FUCK am I supposed to do here?

This one, for how retarded the devs (correctly) assumed their audience was.

>>718532009
I'm aware. The level design is so fucking boring though.

>>718525071
is there any clues to it even relating for american football?

You don't necessarily HAVE to solve this puzzle, but the series of coincidences and contrivances that convince Shiroya she traveled to the pastin the city chapter are absurd and are the only part of Sekimeiya that seem to genuinely exist to confuse the reader.

I can't really remember a really aggravatingly shitty one but I really liked the clocks in FF XIII-2 even though most people seem to detest them. The connect-the-dots ones in the same game is actually one of the shittier I've encountered.

>>718519045 (OP)
dude... you copied this straight from reddit...

>>718532343
so?

>>718532514
you didn't even credit the original poster

>>718532601
kek

>>718519045 (OP)
can you solve it /v/

>>718530037
There's literally no way that this isn't five cats.
Think about it: if five cats can catch five mice in 5 minutes, then it naturally follows that if they did that twice (i.e. 10 minutes), they would catch twice the amount of mice (i.e. 10 mice). Letting the 5 cats engage in 20 rounds of 5 minutes (20 x 5 = 100 min.), they would surely catch 20 sets of 5 mice (20 x 5 = 100 mice) and thus the answer is 5.
1 doesn't make any sense; if the cats were all capable of catching 1 mouse a minute, 5 cats would capture 25 mice in 5 minutes.

>>718519045 (OP)
what's the best vidya puzzle ever made?

>>718533126
V-Jolt

>>718533126
shenzhen I/O

>>718533070
the game's retard dumbfuck logic is operating on the idea that the 5 cats are taking turns or some shit

>>718533517
Then why can't one cat catch five mice in five minutes?

>>718530037
I went and checked the work on this like >>718533070
and you might just be stupid. It's a related rates problem.

5 cats in 5 minutes catch 5 mice.
Divide the mice by the cats.
That means 1 cat in 5 minutes catches 1 mouse.
Divide the mice by the minutes.
That means that 1 cat in 1 minute is a fifth of the way to catching a single mouse.
Multiply the mice by the final time.
That means that 1 cat in 100 minutes catches 20 mice.
Find the number of cats to make 20 mice into 100 mice.
That means you need 5 cats over the 100 minutes to catch 100 mice.

>>718533070
every cat gets bored and goes to sleep after 5 minutes therefore it takes 100 cats

>>718531142
Yes. There's another puzzle where the answer is a reference to a movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind
>>718532105
none whatsoever. What you see in that image is all of the information you get.

>>718533126
Personal highlights include:
>Moiety Age Code
>The Golden Path
>Finding Dis

There is one in Wild Arms where there are 2 rooms. One room has 5 chests, one room has 5 books that have gone through translation.

1 - Closed minds will lead Filgaia to it's doom.
2 - The Elws have gone to another world...
3 - For a thousand years people have torn apart the land looking for the future they've lost.
4 - A foolish woman opened the box and all the desires of the world were released. This is human nature in its purest form.
5 - What do you search for with those closed eyes? This is Filgaia, a dying world...

>>718534303
>Wait a minute that claw
Seriously though I just brute forced the first one because it never occurred to me. In retrospect, as baby-simple as it is, it’s a good way to introduce the player to looking at shit in the inventory.

>>718532721
I was stuck on this for literal hours

Ignore all of the letters and stuff. Just look at the +'s and -'s. Convert those into quadrants on a Cartesian coordinate plane system and treat the 4 rooms at the bottom of the screen like a Cartesian plane. Then go through the rooms in that order.

>>718532721
why did all the characters get midgetified?

>>718533126
The orange box can go fuck itself.

>>718535336
>Ignore all of the letters and stuff.
Wow I already hate it.
Any puzzle with that much "noise" is garbage.

>>718535336
That's what I figured it was but aligned to the rooms according to the map grid letters.

>>718531698
This was due to the UI mod which is required on PC due to Bethesda making console UI only. Mod later improved that oversight. I brute forced all those doors until I got to the place where they are all in a row and realized there had to be an actual solution.

>>718519045 (OP)
Anything requiring either the box or manual to solve.

Legend of Grimrock 2 had absolutely miserable and nonsensical bullshit puzzles.

>>718531915
This is what they put the guy who made all the beloved Final Fantasy game systems on so the company could turn their main series into trash nobody wanted.

>>718536009
>look up the credits
>Nobuo Uematsu

>>718533126
Best puzzle of all time is the one in Riven. It's a culmination of the entire game.

>>718536178
he'd been freelancing for a long time by the time this came out

>>718536178
He's freelance. So is Akira Yamaoka (Silent Hill) go check out the games he has composed for recently, some of them suck ass. But the dude needs to eat and pay his mortgage.

>>718536424
>>718536537
Yes but they aren't hiring him for Final Fantasy. Instead they hired him for... that.

>>718536178
Ito is the mechanics guy. Uematsu is the music guy.

>>718533831
it can, and 100 mice in 100 minutes

>>718519045 (OP)
Dungeon Encounters in general is just a shit load of fuck.