Thread 718588550

>destroys the world to sell more products
>nobody could buy the products because they are all dead

resident evil also does this shit. when are hollywood producers are going to realize this whole plotline is EXTREMELY retarded?

>>718588550 (OP)
>retards considering a shit tv series spin off's lore to be the real lore, overriding the games
You know, those nukes would be deserved in real life at this point.

no you dont get it, rich billionaires are the cause of EVERYTHING BAD
now be a good goy and buy our product, don't forget to get the merchandise and DLC!

>>718588658
Agreed, too many subhumans who have an IQ below 85 clogging up the planet.

>>718588550 (OP)
>silly billies
what gay website are you from?
The original was nigger jews?

>>718588759
>the hyenas live in a place called the taint
fucking
lmao

>>718588658
>>718588785
the fallout tv show is canon to the timeline, like it or not.

>>718588759
40% of billionaires wear tiny hats

>>718588898
i just came across this version and posted it
the original probably says niggers

don’t watch amazon goy slop

>>718588550 (OP)
They can't just say that the commies destroyed the world because "Muh Chinese market."
That's the crux of this whole issue.

It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism

>>718588550 (OP)
Exactly. How does causing the apocalypse exactly improve things for shareholders?
The fan theory that the apocalypse and the vaults are all part of a big experiment to create a generation ship to explore alpha centauri would be a better explanation.

>>718588759
>no you dont get it, rich billionaires are the cause of EVERYTHING BAD
I mean. They're not wrong. People like Klaus Schwab and Larry Fink exist. Although I'm sure it wasn't Amazons intent when they greenlit the show.

>>718588550 (OP)
>resident evil also does this shit.
No it doesn't though?
>Resident Evil 1
Accidental leak of a volatile virus- the leak actually RUINED the product.
>Resident Evil 2/3/Outbreak
Again, accidental. It was a big corporate war over securing samples of a product that went really bad really fast.
>Code Veronica
The product was used as it was designed- by quickly wiping out all living humans in an isolated area before sending in a super soldier or BOW unit commander (this time Wesker, who fulfills both roles) to go accomplish the goal.
>Survivor
Intentional leak by someone who wanted to decimate Sheena Island before he would be arrested and executed.
>Zero
Intentional leak to get revenge on Umbrella.
>Dead Aim
Accidental leak during a three way war between the US Government, the Chinese government, and Umbrella.
>Resident Evil 4
Everything went exactly as intended here. The plaga was implanted in hosts, who were then controlled by the dominant plaga.
>Resident Evil 5
Wesker is not trying to sell anything, he literally wants to end the world to see how far he can push human evolution.

And so on and so on.
The products these viruses sell are not conducive to actual games. You can see the end goal of them in the film Resident Evil: Damnation, where an entire Eastern European war in not-Ukraine is fought using BOWs.

>>718591136
They left it ambiguous in the original games. There's several possible explanations.
>The Chinese caused it in retaliation for Anchorage
>Vault Tec caused it with a false flag operation to cause the apocalypse
>The aliens caused it to study human evolution in the aftermath of the nukes

But I assume the Chinese censors said they had to make it unambiguously obvious that the Chinese didn't cause the apocalypse.

>>718588550 (OP)
Wow it’s almost like using AI to create products and services which no one can afford since AI took their jobs. Really makes you think.

it's just the classic "hubris causes societal collapse" that is in like 95% of science fiction stories

>>718588550 (OP)
We're living in that plotline right now, except instead of everyone being dead, everyone's jobs are being replaced by AI

>>718592096
The black chick goes "We drop the bombs ourselves."
Apparently they launched nukes at everybody and were astonished at the unforeseen result of the world being nuked

>>718592529
But did they drop the bombs? Construction on certain vaults wasn't finished when the bombs dropped. You'd think if they had planned to do it themselves they'd have waited until all their vaults were done before they lit the fuse.
I'm probably grasping a straws here with cope.

I think despite their deviation from the source material the Resident Evil movies were kino.

>>718588550 (OP)
>Evil exploitive supercorp writes a story criticizing evil exploitive supercorps and encouraging communism.

Which series has the most cringe on-the-spot retcons and specific-justifications created out of thin air: Fallout or Star Wars

>>718588550 (OP)
>when are hollywood producers are going to realize this whole plotline is EXTREMELY retarded?
When it stops happening IRL

>>718588550 (OP)
>Plotline is extremely retarded
Because the audience for tv shows is retarded too.

>>718588550 (OP)
They are autocrats that want to crown themselves king, not capitalists. Capitalism is just a convenient means to grab power via consolidation of wealth. This is accurate to real life.

>>718589073
This guy also said the dude from the fallout 1 intro was the dude from fallout 4, so nobody cares what he says

>>718591994
>>718591136
I always figured that it was China flipping the table because they were losing the conventional war after the invention of the T-45

The fact that in the last year US troops not only push the Chinese out of their Alaskan beachhead, but Americans actually start advancing across the Gobi says to me that China was FUCKED

>>718588550 (OP)
look into vault-tec's shareholders, they all chinese

>>718588550 (OP)
billionaires are far from smart
they are some of the dumbest people on this planet so it makes perfect sense

>>718588550 (OP)
Is it just now that you're figuring out that everyone in Fallout is a goddamn moron?

>>718593256
You now get why The GAP sold Che Guevara's face on a T shirt.
The irony of irony.
The capitalist selling commie teenagers and 30 year olds a communist revolution.

>>718588550 (OP)
I think the idea is that they wanted to keep the threat/fear of war going in order to sell stuff. Then someone somehow actually pulled the trigger.

Otherwise House would have been fully prepared, and Barb would have had her daughter when the first bombs fell.

>>718593358
It's very difficult to beat Star Wars revealing that the Space Hitler guy who led the First Order and personally ordered the Super Death Star to blow up the Republic capital and kill trillions of people was secretly a spy working for the Republic to undermine the First Order all along

The man took his cover very seriously

>>718593774
Care to post their faces and names for a collective laugh?

>>718588658
It's too bad the retards in charge at Bethesda actually want that and will try to start canonizing this shit

>>718588550 (OP)
no want to offend our Chinese overlords.

in the cancelled Fallout 3 they were gonna solidify that the vaults were to filter people to select who would be colonizing another planet in space. So without that they have to make up less meaningful reasons and it just slopes into retardation.

Interplay included "Vault-Tec started the war" in their Fallout movie spec script from 1998

In fact they specifically blamed this asshole, the big reveal at the end was gonna be that he launched the nukes himself

This was an idea they were bouncing around before Fallout 2 even came out

The resident evil movies have shown bio-terrorist attacks works
Not your gay Jovobitch movies, the CG ones.

>>718588550 (OP)
How do none of you faggots understand that the evil capitalists in this show are “winning capitalism” by ending capitalism, they aren’t ending the world to sell more products they’re floating the idea of making themselves “Kings” postwar by using their wealth as power

I dont even like the show but how do ALL OF YOU MISS THIS????????

>>718588898
>>718589154
Not quite.
I guess you can't talk shit about jeets on normalfag sites since they're all run by jeets.

>>718594596
Because anyone with a fucking brain would realise that's retarded
I don't want to understand retards, they're retarded

>>718594653
If it was the Hindus really behind it, they'd keep China responsible for the nukes because those two nations hate each other almost as much as Egypt and Israel.

>>718588658
>>718588759
>>718588785
>>718591136
They aren’t ending the world to sell more products you morons they’re wanting to make themselves rulers postwar with power and wealth attained prewar this seemed extremely obvious. Like are you all deliberately obtuse because you want leftist writing to never make sense?

>>718589073
>the fallout tv show is canon to the timeline
Until Bethesda goes back and deletes the old Fallout games, I don't care what they do with the "canon".

>>718588550 (OP)
>hoard all the wealth, push everyone to be replaced by robots and AI
>all that's left is unstable and disposable gig economy
>why are people not buying our shit, you are ruining whole industries, line must go up
I mean, I dunno, your scenario doesn't seem that unrealistic either.

>>718594789
>Because anyone with a fucking brain would realise that's retarded
How is that retarded? They ran company towns in the 1900s just like this, explain why ultra rich people would NEVER want to rule the world then

>>718592981
At least Paul Anderson has the decency to admit it's not canon to the main games and use put his hot wife front and center in them.

What they're doing to Fallout is a crying shame. They're literally whoring the artistry of the worldbuilding out for shekels that won't even last.

>>718594951
No no no anon you are not thinking about the culture war when you’re using your brain

>>718588550 (OP)
>when are hollywood producers are going to realize this whole plotline is EXTREMELY retarded?
They aren't selling it to the average joe but rather to governments, this is literally how the US military complex works lmao

>>718588550 (OP)
the show isn't canon. china still struck first because they got wind of the US developing FEV.

>>718588785
Below 120, huwites belong in the trash can as well.

>>718588759
The white billionaires aren't your friends. They think you are livestock just like the rest of the billionaires.

>>718588550 (OP)
What's most annoying about it is you could totally keep this "capitalism bad" plotline without requiring everybody to be all the way retarded. Instead of deliberately obliterating the world to get money you can't spend, have them plan to keep tensions as high as they can for as long as they can to create a market for survivalist slop, which eventually leads to somebody throwingtoo much fuel on the fire and nukes starting to fly. You could even maintain that china fired first to not fuck up old lore, just add additional context to it.

>>718594885
Leftists can't comprehend finance and power politics or how one dovetails with the other.

>>718588550 (OP)
>the lore was China launched the first strike
no it wasn't. Apparently that was supposed to be what happened according to tim cain, but it was never mentioned anywhere in the games and people have been arguing over it for decades.

>>718594228
Maybe the reason they didn’t go through with it was because it was retarded. Have you ever thought of that?

>>718594228
>Someone thought of it once
How's that an argument you fucking retard, you're so fucking stupid it's insane you're still alive.
Do the universe a favor and kill yourself.

>>718591994
With some info in FO1 talking about how the Chinese did it because they found out about the project to make super soldiers (the super mutants we see today), I wouldn't be surprised that it was them.
The aliens and potential Vault-Tec false flag would make it a perfect storm.

>>718595456
You have poor emotional control and will clearly neck yourself first

>>718591564
The "anti"-billionaire crowd conveniently ignore them, or worse, say they're the "good billionaires"

>>718594885
Yeah pretty much

>>718588550 (OP)
Capitalism is riddled with this exact contradiction though.

>>718595557
nobody has ever said that larry fink is "the good billionaire". that's something you made up in your head to get angry at

>>718594885
Yeah, I don't get why this is such a difficult concept to understand.
Like you can see it IRL, "capitalists" don't really want to sell you product as a goal in itself, they want to amass wealth until they get to the point they don't even need to anymore. That's why they are trying so hard to make AI a thing.

>>718595313
How come leftists have all the power IRL thougheverbait?

>>718595847
Here's Larry Fink showing off the Humanitarian of the Year medal he was awarded for "50 years of work helping refugees"

>>718595847
I've seen people call Bill Gates a "good billionaire"

>>718595557
No, kill them all, let god sort them out.

>>718595369
corporations good

oh n-

>>718594789
>Who's Curtis Yarvin?
>Why does he writes about how plebs are helpless to exist without billionaires?
>Why is he bankrolled by Peter Thiel?
>Why are they all part of the same rich millionaire network which shares the same values and ambitions?
USA will adapt social credit system before China, mark my words.

>>718596062
Who the fuck are these people? Is this the anti-billionaire crowd you're talking about?

>>718596069
Only shills think a billionaire could ever be good.

Why do people treat Hollywoodstein adaptions are supposed to be treated as actual lore?
No one thinks Amazon's Laws Dem Rangs is supposed to be real Tolkien canon.

>>718589073
>Guy who worked on Fallout 3, 4, and 76
>Same retard who also said Nate (default Fallout 4 character) was the guy from the Fallout 1 intro
Not going to take his opinion on anything canon especially games and shows he did not even work on.

>>718588759
fuck I thought this was parody god damn

Not every question needs an answer. Ambiguity sparks imagination.

>>718593712
But that's based

>>718595216
>white

>>718595313
Industrial capital beats financial capital. Pre-WW3 money is near-worthless. All of these people are either dead or in hiding.

>>718594885
>Bro the goal of capitalism is to RETVRN to feudalism
Even communists aren't this retarded.

>>718588550 (OP)
I'm pretty damn sure lore was
>nobody knows who struck first and it doesn't matter anymore

>>718588759
If the rich billionaires aren't the problem, then what is?
>inb4 woke
They're not in power right now and yet things are getting worse.

>>718596763
It would be if the game made use of it, which it didn't.

>>718592981
I liked the first movie a lot. I barely even remember what happened in the sequels

>>718596976
It's fairly obvious that the original lore is China went through Russia to attack and invade Alaska for oil, the Prudhoe Bay Oil Field is the largest oil field in North America, twice as big as the next 2nd largest.

>>718597309
it's about nukes you retard

>>718596142
billing itself as a "free" country and the active resistance against the rich by basically every pre-JFK president is probably the only reason the USA hasn't become vastly more totalitarian than it is

then after JFK pretty much every president has become infamous for being a doddering retard or being a corporate stooge

>>718596320
Tolkien is dead and can't change LOTR
Bethesda is a currently operating company that likes making money and will retcon lore if they think it will entice TV-watchers to buy the game

>>718595865
>>718594885
It's not that they can't understand it, it's that they want to shit on this for political reasons so they make stuff up. That's why they keep nothing off about how dem big scary leftists made it. Everything bad ever is cause of the left to them, the right can do no wrong and the left is the big scary enemy you should be fearful of.

It's brainwashed bullshit 101

>>718591564
>I mean. They're not wrong.
Sure they are. Plenty of jews are only millionaires.

>>718597734
/pol/ dressing up class warfare as a race-war against jews is the funniest shit

they're so close. they're so. CLOSE. to understanding. and then they shit up their back in the last 0.05 seconds, blaming it on the middle eastern religion that they can't actually prove has any connection at all without crutching on surnames that don't mean anything in the modern day

>>718596136
igger

>>718588550 (OP)
>>destroys the world to sell more products
>>nobody could buy the products because they are all dead
yeah who would ever do that in real life

>>718596954
Why do you think these people even WANT this much money? If all they wanted was amenities and luxuries, they can already afford everything the world has to offer by the time they hit $500 million or so.
People (and families and organizations) who continue fighting to obtain more wealth than that are attempting to consolidate power. They don't like capitalism or free markets or competition and the instant they have enough power to do away with those things they will. That doesn't even make them evil - it's rational economic behavior to attempt to control a market so that all buyers are dependent on you regardless of the quality of your goods.
This is obviously, NAKEDLY apparent to anyone with even a shred of critical thinking.

>>718597841
It's kind of cute. They want to believe that their own people wouldn't sell them out. Unfortunately, history is full of examples of one's own people selling them out.

>>718598035
Is this about AI's energy consumption? Just use nuclear power and hydroelectricity.

>>718588550 (OP)
>retarded
You are the retard.
The global market is mainly driven by short-term profits while nobody is giving a shit about the future. Seems like a pretty accurate representation of reality, no?

>>718598116
No, richfags have been seething about feudalism being replaced by capitalism for centuries.

>>718598116
They're socially pressured into wanting more because net worth is basically pp size for them.

>>718598374
>making people dumber
>putting everyone out of work
>hugely water hungry
>doesn't even produce anything of value

>>718588550 (OP)
>destroys the world to sell more products
Nah, it's all about what money actually represents: Power. Use money to reset the rest of the world while holding a massive pre-cataclysm resource advantage, in order to take it all over. The caricature of greed is that, even though these people already control everything from the shadows, they want to pocket every last drop and truly have everything, even if their plans will often just knock them out of the game as well.

>>718588550 (OP)
It's the same logic as selling bottles of water for $20 at the stadium. It actually works, silly billy

>>718598556
You're confusing nobility for the rich. Those are 2 different things.

>>718594885
Already wealthy beyond measure and run a company that is big enough to get the government to do what you want, and afford you and luxury even in a resource scarce world
>decide its better to nuke the world so there is a chance you can become king of an irradiated and barren shithole 200 years later that has a small fraction of the population.

There were better ways to get what they wanted with way less downsides.

>>718598824
>hugely water hungry
There have been plans for nuclear-powered desalination plants since the 1960s.
https://x.com/whatisnuclear/status/1884927036738929074

>>718598923
No, I mean the rich.

>>718598556
Why do you say "no"? You are agreeing with me.
>>718598616
That might be true for the nouveau riche in the upper managerial class but the people who fancy themselves the RULERS of this WORLD measure themselves by a very different stick. They do not want to appear on the cover of Forbes, they want their wealth to be represented by an infinity sign because they believe everything that everyone owns and everything that no one owns is actually theirs by virtue of being a higher class of human.

>>718599110
and are any of those plans implemented now, or even in the process of being implemented?

>>718597069
>They're not in power right now
LOL the horseshoe theory is true chuds are exactly the same as the troons they hate.

>>718596142
Have you noticed that Yarvin, Thiel, and others of their ilk are NOT advocating for global nuclear armageddon?

>>718595990
Leftists are a veneer installed by banks to enable greater wealth extraction.
>just put all your healthcare money in one pot
>oops, we had to let in all these slave migrants
>oops, you have to pay my slave's medical

>DA RICH PEOPLE BE EVIL N SHIET
kill yourselves

>>718599289
>Pay environmentalists to block solution that uses existing technology
>Solution is blocked
>Claim that solution is impossible

>>718599419
This. Leave the globalists alone.

>>718599306
>What is fiat currency?
>What is insurance administration cost?

>>718599235
No, the rich who weren't nobility were the ones supporting it. The people with actual titles were the ones who were mad.

The entire point of Fallout is that it does not matter who struck first. Fallout as a setting uniquely does away with that old chestnut of
>Well akchyully (ancient grievance) so that's why we HAD to strike back
that keeps real world nations fighting over and over for centuries. It completely subverts that by not revealing "who started it". Doing away with this theme is completely destroying one of the franchise's major themes, highlighting how human beings just veer toward violence and will try to justify it after.

>>718598116
>>718594885
I don't think you understand how blindingly retarded this shit is. These people shouldn't want even more power because it's already in hand and despite the riots the US government is still intact and capable of maintaining its grip on power across the nation. They're the deep state™, they are already pull the strings of the strongest nation on earth that's capable of throwing its weight around and exerting control internationally while not being in the spotlight to not have to take the heat whenever their plots or plans go to shit while also having a convenient patsy to replace to assuage public opinion every few years and to give the illusion of control.

The Republic corrupted is unironically the best form of government for someone who's rich and intends to centralise power into the hands of as few people as possible, because it not only allows for smooth replacements of candidates who fall out of favour with you, but it allows real opposition who can be easily controlled and used as a release valve of public unrest. Why do you think the merchant class even made republics into a reality anyways? Dictatorships and Kingdoms place too much power into the hand of an executive while also saddling them with all the responsibility: and who wants that when you can have the power of the strong executive with no responsibility at all?

If you want control, true power over man: you want him to dance to your tune without even thinking that it's someone else's song. You want the illusion of choice, the illusion of control.

That's not even to mention that the way they intend to coup the world... ruins it for themselves. What are they supposed to do with it? They're crippling their own power and reach within a perfectly functional and rich world in order to rule over ashes they can't even reach out to due to a lack of international supply chains that they'll have to painstakingly rebuild. Are they stupid? Why nuke the world for ANY purpose?

>>718593725
Yeah Fallout 2 and New Vegas paint a clear picture of a Chinese first strike. And it's funny people seemingly would care about that, the point of the story was that human nature leads to destruction. The US also developed technology that could have helped with the energy crisis and the new plague, yet they kept it to themselves and developed them for weapons.

>>718588550 (OP)
nothing in the trailer say that the rich nuked the world? Only that he needs to find a way to make a profit out of it?

>>718599891
>It completely subverts that by not revealing "who started it"
I mean while true it's obvious as fuck China was the one to shoot first since the nukes drop after they got their asses kicked in Alaska and were about to get their assholes stretched out by the Americans. The US would have no reason to nuke China at that point since they were all but guaranteed to win.

>>718599913
For total domination, dipshit. A lawless world they get to control every aspect of with the biggest headstart ever conceivable.

>>718600179
The show itself says Vault Tech was responsible for the nukes flying.

>>718600416
ah, didn't watch the first season

>>718600404
>total domination
doesn't last and is a danger to anyone with a minor amount of foresight retard. Read the part about kingdoms and dictatorships.

>>718594885
That, too, doesn't make sense. Who wants to be King of a burnt, destroyed world when they're already the shadow Kings of a developed, modern world. If they're already powerful enough to put the destruction of the world into effect what greater power are they attempting to grab?

>>718588550 (OP)

Fallout lore was always unserious and adding lolrandom shit as it went on.

>>718600442
You made the right choice. The guy playing the ghoul is the only good actor.

>>718600473
It lasts with the hellacious headstart they have. Total domination, that's the goal.

>>718599891
>>718600350
I was thinking about that not long ago, that Fallout 1 makes this very conscious decision to set the story 84 years after the bombs dropped, because that's like the second death of the old world. Of course the initial survivors would all still be people who lived in the old world and still have those mindsets and memories, but those people themselves are gone now

The only people remaining on earth who actually laid eyes on a world that had an America or a China in it are The Master and maybe Set, and they're sure as fuck too deranged to have any insight into it. Even the Brotherhood elder is in fact the grandson of the guy who founded the Brotherhood, watching with some concern as his tribe devolves from a paramilitary force to a feudal cult

The results of the Great War should be as deeply important to the people in Fallout as the results of the Thirty Years' War are to you. I'm not even saying you can't be educated enough to know why it happened or who was involved (although apocalypse people are not educated) but I am saying you should never in your heart feel that true vitriolic personal fervor OH NO NO HAPSBURGBROS HOW DO WE COPE THAT MANTUANCHADS ARE DABBING ON US. That shit's over.

>>718600404
The last thing a would be dictator would want is a lawless world.

>>718600552
>Fallout lore was always unserious

no it wasnt you bethesdafag. Classic fallout games had a balance between comedy and horror. It was bethesda that took this setting and turned into the ultimate slop simulator, post nuclear story number 399494959.

>>718600950
whoosh
Dictator sets the laws in that world with their insane headstart.

>>718599649
Different wealth extraction schemes but not the one in question.

>>718600830
That sounds great, but the problem is you live in "the pre-war" in real life. Large corrupt entities benefit from tribalism and turning every little thing, even escapism, into tools they may use to influence your thinking and "justify" their decisions. So now instead of a poignant lesson as all of you describe you're being forcefed shit like Capitalism Bad, or China Bad, or Republican Bad, or Whatever Bad, all disguised through the lens of hokey 1950's period aesthetics and the Brotherhood of Steel. Amusing the BOS themselves went from a lesson in human tribalism to unironic tribalism, you're expected to go HOORAH YES SIR I LOVE KILLING FARMERS FOR TOASTERS BOMB THEM KIDS FROM DERR ZEPPELIN and that will probably work.

>>718600628
"uh actually it does work despite the almost ten thousand years of evidence proving it doesn't, because uhhhhhhhhh, and uhhhhh these people want even more power despite having the option to have the power without any downsides."
It's fine to be retarded anon, just recognise the fact that both you and the "story" are the same. The "headstart" means nothing considering the fact that you still need serfs, overseers and other people to rule. The elite class that would be generated around this ruler will consume them, leveraging the anger and rage of the serfs beneath them at the face of the system that's keeping them down, it's the fate of all repressive regimes; there's a reason why they don't work.

>>718588550 (OP)
>resident evil also does this shit
Spencer founded Umbrella to fund his eugenics program. The bioweapons only existed as a byproduct of using the t-virus to force the next stage in evolution (Wesker).

>>718601084
You need people's cooperation to create laws. The biggest threat to any ruler is a large collection of people that want them dead. In a destroyed world without rule or societal structure people = power. Rulers want order. Rulers want law. Rulers want rules that people are conditioned to follow. Look at places like Sudan if you want to see what happens when somebody tries to rule and establish law where people don't respect the concept of law.

>>718601324
dumbfuck, evidence of a scenario that only appears in fiction is not evidence

>>718601004

I played F1 before you were born zoomzoom. It was always a satirical unserious franchise from the get go.

>>718601507
You just need to control the power, the tech, the weapons. Which they do in Fallout.

>>718593990
He wasn't a spy all along, it's stupider than that. He turned traitor because he didn't like whiny Darth Revan being in charge.

>>718601163
You were claiming that free universal healthcare is bad and a wealth extraction scheme because your taxes will end up paying for immigrants' healthcare. Fiat currency means that tax comes after spending instead of before. Private healthcare has much more bureaucracy than government healthcare, so it costs more. Healthcare for workers is like maintenance for machinery.

>>718601542
read elite theory and the history of the republics and constitutional monarchies of western europe, I've spoonfed you enough.

>>718601213
>Amusing the BOS themselves went from a lesson in human tribalism to unironic tribalism, you're expected to go HOORAH YES SIR I LOVE KILLING FARMERS FOR TOASTERS BOMB THEM KIDS FROM DERR ZEPPELIN and that will probably work.
Dumb redditor that didn't play the games and just decided that the BOS are bad because the other redditors told you that they are evil chuds.

video games?

>>718599913
The problem with the "corrupt Republic" is that the mechanisms exist for them to be usurped. All it would take is one politician to grow a conscience and say "I was enticed to fuck children so that I could be controlled. I am putting me and my family in danger by saying this but I want to stop it so that we can have the nation I was promised as a kid." and then suddenly you have new Constitutional amendments locking the shadow rulers out from the machine they built. Why would that be acceptable to them?

The only thing more stable than a lie is the truth. Right now our government has legitimacy because it is perceived as democratic. If the truth that it is not democratic comes out, the legitimacy vanishes. They want to rule a world where their rulership is legitimate because of their status as higher beings - a truth they believe and they will ensure everyone else believes as well.

That is the difference between a dictator and a king. The king does not usurp, he is anointed. The king does not claim authority because of power, he claims power because of authority. That is much more desirable to them than a "deep state" in a nominally egalitarian society.

>>718591862
I'm amazed anyone paid attention to the plot in the resident evil games.

>>718588550 (OP)
I think the very idea that Vault Tec would have anywhere near the amount of money and influence to launch a false flag nuking of the entire world is so mind-numbingly retarded I don't even bother entertaining it. It's on the same level as saying Chevrolet launched the nukes.

It also doesn't FUCKING MATTER. The story of Fallout is how humanity in this reality rebuilds from the ashes and the sacrifices they have to make along the way. What does it matter if it was actually X group that launched the nukes? That was like almost 300 fuckin years ago. The great-grandchildren of the people who did it died 100 years ago.

>>718601958
Meet better people

>>718602056
>in this reality rebuilds from the ashes
You have like 10 games by now and you're still desert faggots shooting each other.

>>718588550 (OP)
Instead of solving the problem facing the world our current crop of moronic billionaires is trying to build compounds and find ways to put bomb collars on their security guards.
It's not really that outlandish.
They're also all rushing to replace their workers with AI when they almost all exclusively sell things to the public and their companies requires the public to have money to feed into their corporation.
Is it really that off?

>>718599994
>it's funny people seemingly would care about that,
The Chinese communist party is notoriously self conscious and censorious of anything that may make the CCP (even a fictional version thereof) look bad.
They banned World War Z from Chinese box offices even though it bore very little resemblance to the original book. Because it was based on a book where the zombie virus started because the CCP harvested organs from a political prisoner

>>718593990
Mother of all omelettes, can't fret over every egg

>>718594885
>they wanna rule over some nuked shithole filled with low IQ retards
holy shit you think that's better? if they want it that, they could fly over to Africa or other shithole and buy a whole government there's no need to nuked the fucking world and half of their assets for that.

>>718594596
Yeah sure I can nuke the world back to the stone age and probably have more power than I do now but consider the face I have more luxury, comfort and security in the present than I did a king in the 1100s.

>>718601837
This is Fallout related. People fighting over stupid shit has been core to Fallout since the beginning

>>718601675
Spending is a tax in a fiat system.
>Private healthcare has much more bureaucracy than government healthcare
That just means they can't afford to give away anything I pay them to someone else's slave.

>>718601837
we are talking about a videogame anon

>>718601813
Play Fallout 76, this is painfully obvious what Bethesda wants. Or just fucking google "Ad Victorum"

>>718602184
>You have like 10 games by now and you're still desert faggots shooting each other.
Which is retarded, I agree. It's why New Vegas had the good sense to move the setting to where the new frontier would be, because everything mentioned about the NCR at that time makes it appear to be a functioning nation-state that is rapidly making progress towards 20th-century living standards.

Fallout is also at its heart a Western. Another reason why games on the east coast fundamentally clash with all the themes of the setting itself.

>>718588550 (OP)
haha yeah that would never happen in real life, and definitely not 110 times

>>718588759
When's the trickle down going to start?

>>718588550 (OP)
Resident evil movie did the same thing. Except Fallout didn't had Milla Jovovich to finish all billionaires in the end. Resident evil is better verse.

Technically the first nuclear strike in the lore's chain of events was from an "unknown terrorist group" blowing up Tel Aviv

>>718588550 (OP)
china launcehd the first strike? really? what is the source on that?

>>718603367
inshallah

>>718601864
The thought that a single politician could seriously effect change, even in the presidents seat is laughable at best when you understand how deep the roots of lobbying go. Even if one of these politicians decided to strap a grenade to themselves to clear out the whole room, even as president, nothing would change because there's enough inertia to effectively stop any push for said constitutional amendments by simply lobbying a large proportion of the small scale politicians against them using the same wealth they would've used to keep the president in line. There IS no way out of it for any of the people involved in it because not only do these "representatives" rely upon these shadow rulers to even be elected in the first place with advertising deals and donations to ridiculously expensive campaigns- but also to support later reelection campaigns, campaigns for their children, their family, their protege.

Even if you could get someone willing to burn away themselves, their family, their career and any goals they may've had for the spirit of the nation they were promised: you'll never find enough. Man is self interested at the end of the day, and if inaction is a better decision for yourself rather than torching everything you love, inevitably more people will pick to do nothing. Revolutionaries are always outnumbered

>Right now our government has legitimacy because it is perceived as democratic. If the truth that it is not democratic comes out, the legitimacy vanishes.
??? You do realise that when I talk about the corrupted Republic, I'm talking about the USA right now? The information is all out there for public viewing, there are even convenient directories to see exactly who is lobbying who and how much.

>By 2065 I deemed it a mathematical certainty that an atomic war would devastate the Earth within 15 years. Every projection I ran confirmed it. I knew I couldn't "save the world," nor did I care to. But I could save Vegas, and in the process, perhaps, save mankind. I set to work immediately. I thought I had plenty of time to prepare. As it turned out, I was 20 hours short. On the day of the Great War, 77 atomic warheads targeted Las Vegas and its surrounding areas. My networked mainframes were able to predict and force-transmit disarm code subsets to 59 warheads, neutralizing them before impact. Laser cannons mounted on the roof of the Lucky 38 destroyed another 9 warheads. The rest got through, though none hit the city itself. A sub-optimal performance, admittedly. If only the Platinum Chip had arrived a day sooner... The Platinum Chip was printed in Sunnyvale, California on October 22, 2077 - the day before the Great War. It was to have been delivered by courier the following afternoon... but by then, the world had ended. The Chip contained vital software upgrades, but not just for my Securitrons. Every aspect of the missile defense grid would have been upgraded, too. Given that I had to make do with buggy software, the outcome could have been worse. I nearly died as it was.
>Unfortunately, the sassy black lady that pushed the nuke everyone button didn't give me the right schedule, so my plan to become a pickle leading a shithole of 500 people was delayed

>>718601630
Nigga they have unstable high yield explosives in consumer cars

>>718601629
Sure, pajeet. here's your gift cards, saar.

>>718588550 (OP)
Even Wesker with global saturation plan did it better than this plot like nuking planet with no survivors. Even WY did it better with preventing alien infestation. Fallout is retarded verse.

>>718594885
they already ruled the world, but now there's way less to rule and they can't go for a walk in the park anymore

>>718594653
Doesn't even make sense. Indians hate China more than the US. You can't blame EVERYTHING on Indians, it dilutes the real cases.

>>718603843
Not how nuclear reactors work. Stop taking Bethesda trash as canon, it's all garbage written by morons.

>>718594596
>golly gee everything sucks I have nowhere to vacation and all the good ammenities I enjoyed as a billionaire are gone.
>but guys, I am the only billionaire left, so im winning

shut the fuck up retard. that is not winning anything.

>>718604241
>Stop taking Bethesda trash as canon
>But the nulore from the show about corpo's nuking themselves to become bandit kings is the good shit and actually art

>>718594885
>>718595585
>>718595865
>retarded shills think their boogieman of capitalism is about being the only one with money

no billionaires are gonna give up their fucking comforts to be "in control" of everything they already were in control of.
shut the fuck up.

>>718591862
>Accidental leak of a volatile virus- the leak actually RUINED the product.
No it was Wesker and Marcus
>Again, accidental. It was a big corporate war over securing samples of a product that went really bad really fast.
No, it was Birkin plan all along to test G virus.
>Code Veronica
Wesker did it. etc.

>>718604467
Bioshock exist.

You know what I think? There's like a bunch of conspiracy theories going around that "hurr durr they program you with media" but the thing is, media greatly influences lesser minds. The lesser the mind, the more easily it is influenced. And the VAST majority of the world population has a lesser mind. Ergo, media programming IS very effective if it reaches the right eyeballs. Anyway:

Read that line the guy says. "There's a lot of earning potential with the end of the world".

Now if you're not a retard you would know that the end of the world means the end of governments. No government, no fiat backing to their pretend currency. But this doesn't matter to them. All they want Joe TV Watcher to keep in mind is "Money is eternal, there is only one economic system we can exploit and even after the end of the world, the US dollar will still be desirable and necessary".

Which, of course, is stupid. The current economic system is man-made and is no more sacred than any other man-made system in the world, but as long as Joe and Jane Dumbass keep believing that they'll always be shackled to the idea that no matter what happens or what you do, cash is king and you cannot live in any other way (especially off-grid. What are you, some Ruby Ridge lunatic?)

Anyway, what is your favorite crafting survival game?

>>718603546
>You do realise that when I talk about the corrupted Republic, I'm talking about the USA right now? The information is all out there for public viewing, there are even convenient directories to see exactly who is lobbying who and how much.
Do YOU realize the USA has never had a Presidential election with <50% voting age population turnout?

>>718604642
>No, it was Birkin plan all along to test G virus.
Birkin's plan was to get shot by Umbrella Security grunts?

>>718603440
Operation Anchorage in fallout 3.
DIA terminals in fallout 4.

The basic timeline is, oil crisis. China invades alaska. America fights back, annexxes canada in the process, America invades China. Heading towards stalemate, president goes into hiding.

The DIA computers clearly show defcon 3, subs detected, and nuclear launches detected, and nukes identified in air BEFORE going to defcon 1.

A US first strike would be at defcon 1. A renegade wildcat launch would have been detected and raised all sorts of alarms, followed by jumping to defcon 2 or 1.

>>718604840
Mutants and zombies can literally destroy everything. Fallout is the most retarded verse by now.

>>718604737
>dude this fictional game "exists"
it was supposed to become an underwater UTOPIA with all of those amenities the rich ALREADY enjoyed.
so ultimately they weren't giving up any comforts aside from maybe having to do a bit of "work"

>>718604457
They're both stupid. Who are you strawmanning right now?

>>718605021
nta, but this stupid plot point coming from Bethesda's "let's try to make call of duty in our engine" dlc is very appropriate.

>>718605020
Don't kink shame

>>718602536
>Spending is a tax in a fiat system.
No it isn't.
In a non-fiat system, tax is necessary to fund the government. Spending is limited by tax.
In a fiat system, tax is not necessary to fund the government, but it has other purposes, such as controlling inflation. Spending is limited by real resources, so if there is no food/oil/doctors/gold/whatever, then there is no food/oil/doctors/gold/whatever no matter how much you print.
>That just means they can't afford to give away anything I pay them to someone else's slave.
No, it means that they are willing to spend a ridiculous amount of money on bullshit bureaucracy and make the system less efficient just so that they can pay out more to shareholders. When shit happens and you need healthcare, they'll pull the same bullshit on you.

>>718588658
That's how it works. TV beats video games. Kino beats TV and only book beats everything else. Point is, video games are at the very bottom.

>>718588550 (OP)
they're already doing that now irl with the huge cost of living undermining people's ability to consume pointless shit that gets progressively more expensive

>>718605178
>so ultimately they weren't giving up any comforts
Before it's too late for them. Only little sisters survived in the Bioshock 2.

>>718605020
his motives were complex

>>718605763
they've been doing it since the beginning. It's just overproduction crises all the way down.
They've just papered over it the last few decades by putting women to work and putting everyone into massive amounts of debt.

Abuse of corporate power has been a prominent theme throughout Western media, for decades.
>Alien/ Aliens
>both Bladerunner movies
>the Cyberpunk universe
>Resident Evil
>Bioshock
>Half-Life
>Borderlands
>Deus Ex
>Superman (LuthorCorp)
>too much other shit to list
This theme actually tacitly reinforces the paradigm in which corporations and corporate leaders wield immense power, but we now have low-IQ billionaires from Africa putting even lower-IQ politicians in office, and they cry about said theme.

>>718603546
You are pushing a line that is just used to pretend that the government is helpless. Unlike in third world countries where the government isn't in full control, in the first world, the government can do literally whatever it wants within the country that it controls. It can have the richfags and their lobbyists killed overnight, pass legislation, etc. The only way that richfags can affect it is by bribing politicians and using the media to influence the election process because they know that they don't have any actual power if a politician that could have them killed actually got into power.

imagine going out of the way to not insult commie chinks

>>718606025
>Abuse of corporate power has been a prominent theme throughout Western media, for decades
Interesting how this theme started rapidly gaining popularity once the communists from the Frankfurt school fled to California and started peddling their ideology in the early 1960's.

>>718605020
Birkin was a double agent, he was already dead. But the G virus could give him a chance to survive.

>>718597307
>>718592981
By itself, the first one was ambiguously canon, which was a good move. It didn't do anything to ruin the games' lore, but you can also picture it as a side-story within the games' universe.

>>718605805
well yeah the entire point was that everything went to shit faster than a random street in india after lunch.

>>718588898
its so the dumb nigger brownie can post it on his twitter feed

>>718606623
>everything went to shit faster than a random street in india after lunch.
That's good. Mind if I steal that for later?

>>718588550 (OP)
the lore never changed. you did

>>718588550 (OP)
>resident evil also does this shit
Umbrella itself wasn't attempting to destroy the world, only some bad actors within it.

>>718594885
Fallout 1 was literally lefty writing that made things ambiguous because it wanted to tell an interesting story instead of the same rote
>Sunday morning cartoon villain tier capitalist does something really stupid because he is dumb and stupid but don't forget evil, he's evil too, that's why he's rich!
Like I could get this exact same dumbfuck storyline told to me by twitter because at least the retarded lefties there have the decency to condense it down to 280 characters or less. Closed mindedness has nothing to do with why the show is bad, I'd say it's closer to a difference of taste, where I have taste and you do not. But at least with a simple difference of taste, your slop wouldn't be tainting everything else, as is the case with the Fallout show completely raping the franchise.

>>718591862
>>Resident Evil 1
>Accidental leak
Uhh...

>>718596136
tss.. No, it should be a wink at the camera and "capitalism... Am I right ?"
What are you talking about Deathclaws not being able to blink ?.... so you're ok with robot brain and radioactive ghouls but talking, walking death claws is not "realistic". You're just speacist and against death claws lovers you bigot.

>>718606053
>government is a monolith that can do whatever it wants
The state is a corporation, a holding company more like. Companies, corporations don't do anything; the people inside of them do.
This is a problem with the collectivist thinking you're clearly prone to. The politicians and bureaucrats that make up the government do those things, and as you yourself admit the main way that they effect the decision makers is via the carrot (bribery and legalised bribery in lobbying) and the stick of the media machine, and yet you act as if the rest of the corporation of government cannot be effected by the carrot and stick, as if it's some independent entity of the individuals that make it up.
The CIA or FBI could turn around and investigate the ruling class, but will they? The special forces could be deployed RIGHT NOW to "drain the swamp" as the republicans have been clambouring for since before 2020, and yet... Nothing.

Because the decision makers are affected by what the richfags can do. Because the people beneath them are subject to their whims, subject to the whims of a voice they'll never actually hear. The government is helpless before subversion, it's not pretend if it's reality. It doesn't matter who sits where, which team you vote for, which side even wins. You just get the results of the war in the shadows whether you like it or not.

Because these elites, these shadow rulers aren't unified either. Far more would get done if that were the case.

I got no problem with corpos in the falloutverse wanting to go nuclear just to have unlimited control in the aftermath.

The problem I have is that this narrative directly contradicts with the existence of the Enclave, who only survived the bombs purely because Vault-Tec gave them some vaults. If Vault-Tec wanted the US for themselves, why would they ensure the safety of the secret society that controls the US government?

>>718588550 (OP)
>when are hollywood producers are going to realize this whole plotline is EXTREMELY retarded?
Probably around the time actual execs of actual companies realize that number can't go up forever and thinking only in quarters is EXTREMELY retard.

Because in the 80s and 90s no one thought China could one day eclipse America miltarily and economically. You can thank your globalists controlled government for this

i feel like a lot people in this thread don't get the actual problem

>evil corpo trope was always a thing

yeah it was, and still is
the problem is the whole idea of destroying the world plot for more money is stupid as fuck. if everybody who could buy your product is dead, then who is going to buy the product??

>>718607432
Nice creative writing, but the government can lob a hypersonic missile at you for misbehaving. A company can't, not yet anyway. Industrial capital beats financial capital. The FBI and the CIA obey whatever politician is in charge. Unlike in the third world, the head of state is actually in charge of the country in the first world.

>>718606868
Do so as enthusiastically as an Indian asking to see bobs.

>>718607689
>number can't go up forever
Yes it can.
>thinking only in quarters is EXTREMELY retard.
True. If you want the number to go up forever, then you have to look past the next quarter. The financialisation of the economy has ruined the economy.

>>718607820
>if everybody who could buy your product is dead, then who is going to buy the product??
>what is SIG Sauer, Inc.?
It literally doesn't matter, as long as I get my golden parachute after this thing goes belly-up

>>718607820

Videogame companies dont even care about makjng money anymore, thry are here to push agenda for the democratic party

Why are so many anons here still trying to claim new vegas is still canon?
It's obviously a soft reboot and bethesda is only keeping some parts of new vegas and completly rewriting things that dont fit in the bethesda view of what fallout should be.

>>718607690
>eclipse America miltarily and economically.
They don't. They have a lot of industry, but they are still just a paper tiger. The west needs to reindustrialise anyway.

>>718608062

America have too many blacks and browns to rival China, their iq are too low

>>718607841
>the government can lob a hypersonic missile at you for misbehaving.
Who makes the missiles? Does the government own the military industrial complex?

The politician in charge won't press the button because they're effected by the richfags as noted by myself and you. Sorry if this is the first time if you've ever had this spelled out to you, but the government is impotent before special interests

>>718608208
>but the government is impotent before special interests
....which doesn't matter at all because those special interests are not yours. There isn't even an overlap.

Videogames are propaganda machine for the democrats, and democrats serve China

>>718608208
>Who makes the missiles? Does the government own the military industrial complex?
Depends on what country. The military industrial complex still can't do anything on their own. Richfags can't buy tanks and missiles, not yet anyway.
>The politician in charge won't press the button because they're effected by the richfags as noted by myself and you.
Corruption != powerlessness.
>Sorry if this is the first time if you've ever had this spelled out to you
Faggot.
>the government is impotent before special interests
OK Hayekfag.

>>718607541
What control, you can't control if no survivors, mutants and ghouls can't be controlled. And what's left is MC and quest for survive.

>>718605482
They showed hints of it from the very beginning, but I agree that being specific on who started it is missing the point. I was hoping for a Fallout Shanghai or Singapore that showed the US launched first.

But hell, it really could have been anyone. Sampson comes to mind.

>>718589073
I'm not a purist and don't mind that Bethesda isn't perfect and bungles the lore from time to time but everything Pagliarulo touches turns to shit. Dude has the reverse Midas Touch. It's like he's doing everything he can to ruin the lore and the stories of every game he's involved it. He was they guy who WANTED less choice in Fallout 4 and prevented other writers from writing anything that's even remotely good. The moment he was busy on another project is when we saw a glimpse of good writing in Far Harbor. It had nothing to do with budget, time constraints or Bethesda itself it was always about the presence of Pagliarulo
Some inconsistencies due to honest mistakes are expected but Pagliarulo is intent on writing the shittiest stories imaginable. They are nonsensical, have no themes and are just plain boring and lame. He's probably the biggest hack in the industry right now and responsible for at least half the issues plaguing Bethesda games.
Remove him from Bethesda and you'll see them go back to the golden days within the span of a single release, as long as he doesn't install some sycophant as he leaves.

>>718608617
>Sampson comes to mind.
OH NO NOT SAMPSON SIMPSON THE JAMAICAN GRASS DEALER

>>718608393
Fuck China. We need to eliminate every political party that does not serve Israel.

>>718588759
>earth's governments race to save as many as they can
has to be the funniest line ever written in a video game

>>718605420
The conversation was about, in Bethesda canon, billionaires having power after societal breakdown because they could easily have control of weapons
While the rebuttal was that no that's stupid, as in Bethesda canon, high explosives are very readily accessible and just lying out on the street
Why call me out on using this dumb canon to rebuke the argument, but not the argument in the first place that is relying on dumb canon? I'm simply pointing out that even in its own universe this plot point makes zero sense

>>718608681
>Far Harbor
still has bad writing.
I can't even send the BOS to kill the synths after Kasumi Nakano returns home.

>>718608617
Yeah it's the bigger issue, Bethesda has too strong a pre-war focus which misses the point since who started tge war doesn't matter, the tag line tells us why it happened the details are trivial.

>>718608536
I think it's fairly obvious if you watch the show that Vault-Tec's plans for US domination were incredibly undercooked. They didn't expect survivors who weren't already in on their plans or under their corporate brainwashing

>>718608419
The answer is no because we're talking about the west retard, and they can do plenty fine on their own lmao. And are you sure about that? I don't think you know what you're talking about, or you're very unacquainted with modern mercenaries.
>corruption so pervasive that it can effectively stop any grassroots campaign is... NOT powerlessness because I said so!!!
Take a look at those material conditions for longer than a minute, and think about what people would do in a situation such as this.

I prefer rothbard over hayek by the way

>>718608885
You can. When you inform BOS of the Island you can have them genocide Acadia with extreme prejudice and the entire place turns hostile against you.

>>718608681
>They are nonsensical, have no themes
I still love when asked he said the theme if Skyrims story was just "dragons" like the entire concept of overcoming nature or fighting against inevitability was just other writers peppering things in and he just wanted big dragon fight.

>>718609291
>modern mercenaries.
>paying a few faggots a few pennies to train terrorists in the third world means that they can do anything in the first world
kek
>>corruption so pervasive that it can effectively stop any grassroots campaign is... NOT powerlessness because I said so!!!
>Take a look at those material conditions for longer than a minute, and think about what people would do in a situation such as this.
You're exaggerating just to create your fanfic.
>rothbard
Literally the same retarded Austrian school of economics.

>>718594885
Why control millions and by extension, the entire world, when you could be the king of a couple of thousand irradiated retards?

>>718588550 (OP)
>censoring trannies with troonspeak
kill yourself OP

>>718609520
The problem is that that option disappears after Kasumi Nakano goes home.

>>718609657
She should be buried with them, so no problem there. Shame about her parents, but someone has to lose.

>>718608792
This thread is full of TV retardation enough without your hasbra flavored shitposting.

>>718608681
>He's probably the biggest hack in the industry right now
Hey, now, 'trick weeks, and briana wu are still getting hired by the bigs.

>>718597129
It's the only rational explanation as to why Nate married a lawyer. If you remove Nate the Rake he wouldn't have married his wife who wouldn't have given birth to Shaun. It's like poetry, it rhymes, and Nate the Rake is the first verse.

>>718609657
I didn't know. Sounds like a retarded omission on their part.

>>718588550 (OP)
It was never lore that china fired first, it was always left ambiguous who fired the first missile.

>>718609654
i did not censor the image, it looked like this when i found it

also the original version says indians, retard

>>718609945
But she isn't a synth.

>>718610264
Lawyers get married IRL, usually to people that aren't criminals or their clients.

>>718588550 (OP)
"free market bad" niggers are incredibly stupid.
If they stop this trope, it will be because they've come up with an even more clumsy, even more retarded way to send The Message.

>>718588550 (OP)
>TV show says something new and retarded lore wise
>retards come out of the woodwork admitting they didn't understand the actual lore either
This really remains one of the biggest shitshows this board has ever had. I genuinely cannot fathom being so fucking retarded you play the fallout games and think there is any actual answer to "who dropped the bombs first".

>>718604642
>No it was Wesker and Marcus
It was Marcus, but that's Zero doing retconning. In RE1, it's treated as an accident.
Wesker didn't leak shit though. He was just told by Umbrella (and his true employers) to make the most of the situation and get some combat data by releasing the remaining BOWs while STARS are there.
>No, it was Birkin plan all along to test G virus.
No it wasn't.
Birkin was supposed to handoff the G-Virus to the American government and get moved by them. Umbrella's USS forces intercepted those plans and killed Birkin, and then Birkin accidentally released viral strains of the t-Virus (not the G-Virus) into the sewers when he his body reanimated and followed the USS soldiers.
There is no real need to test the G-Virus via a mass infection because it requires only an individual host. It's meant to make a singular superhuman, unlike the t-Virus which is modified to generate different, mass producible effects.
>Wesker did it. etc.
That's what I said. He used a modified t-Virus strain to rape Rockfort Island and make his own infiltration easier.
>>718607119
See above.

>>718591136
Didnt china do that because the US released the FEV on them as a bioweapon? I mean you see what even the minor version of that shit do to people, I cant imagine the pre-war shit was any nicer.

>>718598478
You can't sell water by sinking a boat.

>>718592981
First one is categorical kino. Second one is fun schlock. Third one sucks and indirectly caused the final one to complete disregard the penultimate one's potential kino ending, so it's a way, the series died right at three though like an insect, the body didn't know it.

What the fuck are you retards talking about. Obviously sith runs the world.

>>718596136
>Chud Avellone

>Austrian economics
>Look inside
>Over a century of seething about financial capital losing to industrial capital in WW1 and WW2

>>718611378
Still a G-virus was a reason why city was nuked. So yeah also Birken tested virus on himself lol.

>>718592981
I don't but the reverse intro was one of the coolest things Ive seen. I did very much admire that these sub par films were on of the highest grossing franchises of all time. The Philip K dick of videogame movies.

>>718588550 (OP)
thats literally what rich people do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v1Yg6XejyE

>>718610740
I thought aliens controlled someone into firing first?

>>718611774
>Still a G-virus was a reason why city was nuked.
No it wasn't, it was, again, the t-Virus.
The G-Virus carriers list is incredibly short and entirely contained to the RPD and underground lab. They are:
>William Birkin (Killed by lab detonation)
>Sherry Birkin (Saved by 'Devil')
>G Creature (Killed by Leon/Claire)
Everyone and everything else in the city was a result of the t-virus.
>also Birken tested virus on himself
He didn't. He just recognized that he was dying and knew Wesker had done the same thing and was literally hoping for the best since he didn't want to have his research stolen from him.
He was in no way testing on himself. The G-Virus was already finished by that point.

>>718611892
The fossil fuel industry provide a vital service to society, but their products also have negative externalities, so we should invest in things that do the same job but with less harmful externalities.
The richfags that blew up the world in the Fallout TV show did so just for the evuls.

>>718596136
Isn't this the guy who made tunnelers?

>>718592981
As shown by this thread, the vast majority of people here haven't actually played the Resident Evil games and have only seen the Anderson films.
It's pretty funny how much of RE's status in pop culture is dominated by films that the fans hate. The entire view of Raccoon City, Nemesis, Umbrella as a whole, the obsession with cloning, people constantly dying and coming back, and even characterization, like Wesker being a big puppeteering mastermind (in the games he fulfills that role one time, and is otherwise closer to a WWE antagonist), all of that is from the movies.

>>718611773
Im part of the 0.1% posters who get this. I mean I can see it but I have to be charitable and pretend its a world where Keynes doesn't exist. Your rebuttle will be that industrial capital and Keynes are the same and thats where I'd have to be charitable.
That said I shouldn't be a choosy beggar, we do need more historical econ jokes around hear.

i cant wait till the day we get to genocide all of india

>>718612475
Unfortunately they're useful slave labor to our masters, so not happening.

>>718593725
I wish this was real life.

>>718612157
>No it wasn't, it was, again, the t-Virus.
T-virus is not a big threat, like in Umbrella Dark chronicles Brazil zombies didn't requered a nuke solution. But G-virus on other hand could've make whole Alien vs Predator 2 movie make on steroids.

>>718611135
you haven't even played fallout 1 and you act superior to everybody else? kys retard

>>718612512
ah. first the masters, then india? good idea.

>>718591564
>he thinks Schwab or Fink are anything but mouthpieces
Italian royal families are the ones you really want

>>718594789
That sounds like something I would do if I was a billionaire ngl

>>718612679
>T-virus is not a big threat, like in Umbrella Dark chronicles Brazil zombies didn't requered a nuke solution.
The nuke (later missile raid + non-nuclear nuclear missile in retcons) was dropped for political reasons.
Simply put, there is too much compromising shit in Raccoon City for all parties. It has Umbrella labs which have paperwork on dealing with the US Government, in addition to entire facilities like the waste disposal facility (which not only housed a failed t-Virus test subject garbage dump, but by the end it had a US Government issued rail cannon surrounded by dead US soldiers with orders to extract William Birkin, alongside four dead BOWs).
Various titles like RE6 go over this. Raccoon City was destroyed for the convenience that solution offered. Nobody wanted any survivors getting out, hence the military blockade having orders to keep people, even those who aren't infected, in the city, and the UBCS having observers in every group was partially Umbrella's own insurance that meant nobody who got 'rescued' was leaving alive.

An additional reason is that there were NGOs or government programs setup for bioterrorism. By the time of Darkside, the FBC and the BSAA already existed, in addition to the US Government's own efforts.

>>718600485
Youre asking too many questions, sir?

>>718594789
>>718602341
>>718604323
>live in a world where the most rich and powerful men put their lives on the razor's edge so they can run to an island to sacrifice children
>already plans to have company towns become a thing again
>surprised any of them would see becoming king of the wasteland as a good thing

>>718613080
>If I kill everyone then I'll be the only billionaire in the planet
>And I'll be able to enjoy slavery with [Dead people] and enjoy vacationing in [Wasteland]
Yes, that's what a retard-turned-billionaire would do.

>>718612460
>Keynes
What's your opinion on Hamilton?

>>718613223
Yes you fucking retard YOU NEED THE PLANET THRIVING TO HAVE A TROPICAL ISLAND FULL OF CHILDREN TO RAPE
YOU NEED NOT-MUTATED WOMEN TO RAPE AND HAVE KIDS WITH TO ALSO RAPE
ARE YOU UNIRONICALLY RETARDED WHAT PART OF NUCLEAR WARFARE WOULD DESTROY EVERYTHING A RICH RETARD WOULD WANT TO ENJOY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND

>>718613407
>YOU NEED THE PLANET THRIVING TO HAVE A TROPICAL ISLAND FULL OF CHILDREN TO RAPE
They don't really care about the tropical part, just the last part, and as has been shown, they can't do it as freely as they would like to currently.
>YOU NEED NOT-MUTATED WOMEN TO RAPE AND HAVE KIDS WITH TO ALSO RAPE
"Hey everyone, the world's ending! You should come to my bunker, bring your family!"

>>718613263
Yeah... But it would be kino and I would never get bored

>>718613089
>The nuke (later missile raid + non-nuclear nuclear missile in retcons) was dropped for political reasons.
It was a nuke in the Re3 remake. Correct.
Also nuking city for a political reasons is a install civil war. Resident evil apocalypse covered up this as a nuke power plant accident to to prevent that. G-virus was so much strong that it could wipe out everything, see Re outbreak file 2 final boss was a G-virus sample.

>China launched the first strike
Source?

>>718592981
no, 6 was dogshit only because milla was bloated due to pregnancy

>>718613638
>It was a nuke in the Re3 remake.
It wasn't actually nuclear, that's the retcon. Its been retconned to a non-nuclear attack since around the time of Outbreak.
>Also nuking city for a political reasons is a install civil war.
Yeah, that's why they covered it up. That's why the President in RE6 was talking about "Finally revealing" what happened in Raccoon City, because the official history is just "Shit got bad, it had to go".
>G-virus was so much strong that it could wipe out everything, see Re outbreak file 2 final boss was a G-virus sample.
If you're going to reference side material, then Umbrella Chronicles outright states that it wasn't a G-Virus outbreak (like every other piece of media in the franchise). Ada, at the end of her scenario, speculates on how, if the t-Virus could do this much damage, what could the G-Virus do.

>>718613725
Tim Cain.

>corpo ceo and shareholders are so fucking high on their own farts and believe themselves so special for having managed to make the effective impossible happen (mass creation, consumption, and contracting of the vaults) that they go full fucking retard with their MBA brain riddled sycophancy and decide to do the unthinkable...
>...potentially, as there is not yet any actual clear declaration it was them
>this is somehow far too alien of a concept despite looking at how the mass fucking market has worked in the past 20 fucking years
>when the whole fucking point of fallout is "man what if the world was somehow even more retarded than we initially thought it could be because man just really fucking craves violence on a level that should stagger anyone with room temperature iq?"

i don't see how this is so difficult of a concept to see and accept unless you're so fucking sick and tired of "capitalism bad communism is only answer" maladies that you just kneejerk any fucking time corporate rightfully gets criticized for being fucking corporate as if the only way you can ever criticize it is if you're a fucking commie.

>>718588550 (OP)
I still have no idea who they expect to sell weaponized dinosaurs in these new jurassic park movies.
I mean, they might actually answer that in the movies, but I'm not going to watch them.

>>718613949
its just too fucking retarded for me to accept

>>718613489
Spoken like a true retard. Yes let's destroy the planet so the resources that were dirt cheap like food or kids became scarce, because I want to fuck them NOW, better launch those missiles!
Kill yourself

>>718614162
Welcome to Fallout, enjoy your stay.

>>718613838
>It wasn't actually nuclear, that's the retcon. Its been retconned to a non-nuclear attack since around the time of Outbreak.
It was a nuke in the Re 3 remake deal with it.
>Yeah, that's why they covered it up.
Yeah nah, Alyssa a survived reporter sued Umbrella and President of US got fired or lynched. Propably re9 plot.
>the t-Virus could do this much damage
The T-virus is just night of the dead, while G-virus is an Alien infestation.

>>718613949
>this is somehow far too alien of a concept despite looking at how the mass fucking market has worked in the past 20 fucking years
Yes you fucking retard, how many nukes have corpos launched in those 20 years
Last I checked Chernobyl was because of the cumguzzling commies cutting corners to get the plant rolling.

>>718614224
>Yes let's destroy the planet so the resources that were dirt cheap like food or kids became scarce
That's what your new slave population is for.

>>718613949
>when the whole fucking point of fallout is
No, that's just your headcanon.

>>718614357
The irradiated population that has to starve and fight off other mutants? That's what you want to fuck you retard?

>>718594228
You just pointed out the reason why it never materialized. Same exact thing happened to Doctor Who, Chris Chibnall essentially realized his fanfic idea of what he thought Cartmel Masterplan was and when Andrew Cartmel saw the results he disavowed it.

>>718614231
thanks Todd

>>718614326
>It was a nuke in the Re 3 remake deal with it.
Provide an official material stating it was.
>Yeah nah, Alyssa a survived reporter sued Umbrella and President of US got fired or lynched. Propably re9 plot.
Which is not what happened.
Raccoon City survivors were involved in the trial against Umbrella, but the killing testimony was Albert Wesker's. This is already a documented in universe event.
As for the presidents, it's also a plot point that all of them were involved in the cover-up and RE6 was significant because the reveal would've ruined trust in the US government. Infinite Darkness, set around 2004/05 corroborates this.
>The T-virus is just night of the dead, while G-virus is an Alien infestation.
You can keep saying dumb shit like this, but the literal in universe thing that destroyed Raccoon City was the t-Virus being in the water supply. Not the G-Virus, only three (3) G-Virus infectees were in the city, and one was a small child.

>>718597841
>>718598301
Good goy

>>718594596
>IMG_1323.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZcRU0Op5P4

>>718614348
Sure anon and somehow these vaults actually fucking work exactly as described and manage to last over 100 years without issue despite irradiated cockroaches becoming the size of a small fucking dog (but don't worry because somehow everyone is totally not irradiated in some way despite there being giant irradiated cockroaches in the vault!), ghouls are beings that not only are immune to radiation poisoning but also in fact HEAL from radiation, and a super serum also just turns people into sterile hulks that also are completely and totally immune to radiation despite that is implicitly not how fucking radiation works in the slightest.

Oh, but better yet, fucking GECKOS get irradiated to hell and back and within only 50 years or so they become miniature godzillas! And they can also become completely invisible! And ghouls no longer age and never have to suffer entropy on their joints and ligaments!

Oh and the entire world uses bottle caps as a form of currency because somehow bottle caps are the single most ubiquitous item that's coin-sized and worth something because... Because! That just makes sense, right???

>>718614569
>Provide an official material stating it was.
Play Resident evil 3 remake already.
>Raccoon City survivors were involved in the trial against Umbrella
Only Alyssa was caple enough to sue Umbrella, and survive untill Resident evil 7. But also you are not wrong Umbrella were attacked from Wesker and destroyed by him in in the Umbrella chronicles.
>the t-Virus being in the water supply
The T-virus cannot harm people with immunity, so most of the city's residents were not infected. The G-virus can symbiose with almost everything.

>>718594596
thats stupid as fuck
they already live like kings you stupid fucking nigger
as is made painfully obvious by every single le dystopia flashback

You can't have your "capitalism bad" cake and eat it, too.

>>718611773
>Austrian economics
>Look inside
>Jews

>>718614927
>they become miniature godzillas!
Deathclaws are Jackson's Chameleons.
>And they can also become completely invisible!
Nightstalkers are a cross between rattlesnakes and coyotes, that then chewed on a stealth boy and somehow became invisible.

>>718591136
Nobody in the film industry considers chinese market anymore after they have seen how fickle they are.

>>718615191
>Play Resident evil 3 remake already.
Nobody in the remake states that it's a nuclear attack, nor in any other game. The only game that addresses what weapon was used was Resident Evil 6, which confirms the obvious- that it was not a nuclear missile.
>Only Alyssa was caple enough to sue Umbrella, and survive untill Resident evil 7.
This is pure madeup headcanon.
The reason Umbrella shutdown was due to the events of Umbrella Chronicles, yeah- Wesker gave the info he obtained to the US Government for use in the Raccoon Trials. He didn't "destroy Umbrella" by helping raid one Russian facility, that was done to get that information and to isolate Spencer.
>The T-virus cannot harm people with immunity,
The people with immunity to the t-Virus are not a significant amount of people, and the range of the Outbreak meant this- 100,000 people lived in Raccoon City. The t-Virus has a 10% immunity rate. Somewhere in the ballpark of 90,000 people would be getting infected from drinking tap water.
If it was reversed and only 10,000 people got infected, sure, but 90% of the city was getting infected.
>The G-virus can symbiose with almost everything.
And again, you dense fucking retard, the G-Virus was not the cause for the outbreak. Nothing in ANY rendition of Raccoon City EVER indicates this and you have LITERALLY zero proof for it because you are RETARD.

>>718601084
>whoosh
Redditspeak go back filth

>>718615559
You're correct, and it doesn't diminish my point. "Venture capitalists going full retard and potentially kickstarting the end of the world" is not anywhere near as far-fetched as people think (considering most of the American global elites are unironically in a fucking death cult who thinks war in the middle east will eventually bring about nuclear armageddon there and that will somehow be what kickstarts the fucking rapture), and especially when the rest of the core aspects of the fucking games are tens of times more far-fetched and quite literally impossible in the first place. It would be like suddenly having issue with there being a mutated subspecies of deathclaw that actually COULD roar, or being assravaged beyond belief that there could be a new type of mutant variation of electric eels that become amphibious and zap your ass out with radioactive electrical shocks. Look at the fucking setting real hard before going "that's too retarded!" when far, FAR more retarded shit exists like the fucking fridge kid.

>>718588550 (OP)
All I’ve learned from this thread is that this series was always fucking retarded. The Pokémon universe is more coherent at this point.

>>718616069
>Nobody in the remake states that it's a nuclear attack, nor in any other game. The only game that addresses what weapon was used was Resident Evil 6, which confirms the obvious- that it was not a nuclear missile.
Any experiment moab can't destroy cities. In the Remake it was one missile. RE3 remake is about nuke verse.
>This is pure madeup headcanon.
We'll see in Resident evil 9, Umbrella trial and President impeachment was a thing. Also Alyssa rest of outbreak staff and Jill took a daybreak vaccine so yeah, definitely Umbrella was also hitted by that.
>The t-Virus has a 10% immunity rate
Correct but water infection not enough, bite is necessary and not just average but like Marvins one without medkit.
>, the G-Virus was not the cause for the outbreak
Correct but damage and capability was enough to launch a nuke.

This thread is convincing me to try to get into politics, so one day, I could be (or near) the President, and orchestrate a surprise nuclear holocaust.

>>718613949
nice oldfag larping, faggot

>>718616962
>We'll see in Resident evil 9
Nigger we already have games describing everything that happened after RE3

>>718588759
>The Crack
>The Taint
Fucking kek, is their headquarters called the Brown Star or something?

>>718617037
Nuke india first and you have my vote.

>>718617189
Driftable canon you say?

>>718616817
Perhaps, but it is a very retarded thing to introduce with absolutely no prior indication whatsoever (with House DIRECTLY contradicting it), 7 games later in a low budget television show that also says the walking tank power armors have a weak spot on the front that instantly kills the wearer if shot at that nobody has ever mentioned or made use of until now

>>718617378
Kill yourself

>>718617294
Only India. Booo! Get a load of this guy.

>>718599994
I remember reading an implication from some computer in Fallout 2 that an AI caused the strikes.

>>718617530
I said first. I can't make the entire electoral campaign for you Anon

>>718617527
You are just being nasty.

>>718592981
They were borderline experimental but thoroughly enjoyable nonetheless.

>>718617404
For starters, we have yet any actual confirmation it was Vault Tec that did it. Secondly, you are 100% correct in that it flies in the face of House's statements and you have a much bigger issue to focus on: the writers are going full retard with the power armor just so the Ghoul can have a BADASS moment. Going full kneejerk retard over what's blatantly being toyed with as a hard "maybe" for what was literally a fucking cliffhanger for a multi-season TV show while completely ignoring all the far more egregious shit in this fucking festering pile smacks purely of culture war grift bullshit instead of any actual fucking issues with how Fallout lore has been raped since 3.

Hell, even New Vegas fags fail to recognize it just apes on 3's shit instead of being anything remotely like 1 and 2.

>>718617540
And Fallout 3 implied aliens did it

>>718588550 (OP)
should never have done the vault experiment thing. that was a stupid fucking idea and proves that proves that interplay just got lucky with the first game. because to be perfectly honest, the second game was way too over the top with the silliness and fucking sucked. people were like "lolz!! a two-headed cow omgololololl!!!!" and that attitude completely destroyed the second game. instead of just being dark humor, it became whimsical slapstick bullshit.

>>718589073
Bethesda Fallout isn't canon, I hope this helps!

>>718594864
But they are in the esteemed BRICS economic bloc together!

>>718617294
I'll nuke 7/8ths of mainland Asia, from Jerusalem to Bejing, plus Central and South America, and Africa.

this whole thread is just you retards going

>well the thing the creator of the game said is canon isnt actually canon because i said so

>>718617856
>I hope this helps!

go back to twitter

>>718617919
I don't care what the creator said
I care about what he wrote, and any other asspulls has to be backed up or can fuck off.

>>718617907
imagine the refugee crises and white guilt

>>718617919
Canon is not canon anymore. Since Ryu from Street fighter is not a old man in his eighties.

>>718618025
Its called X retard

>>718589073
>Fallout 4- 2287
>TV show- 2296
Does the show say if the Brotherhood won their mission in Boston. Knowing how NuFallout likes to suck off the Brotherhood, I'm guessing they did

>>718618103
Not to fear. I'll also nuke the left wing cities in North America, Europe, and Australia.

>>718617704
People are talking about it rather than other retarded shit that was in season 1, because the trailer for season 2 that just came out is also hinting at it, so people are talking about current thing, rather than previous thing, you autistic fuck

>>718618103
>Radioactive refugees

>>718588759
>big tech company CLOUT
>The Crack
>The Taint
>Broken Earth
how could they possibly think any of this sounded cool or interesting lmao

I am so, so tired of trannies, faggots, and fat women.

>>718605630
>In a fiat system, tax is not necessary to fund the government
False. You can't spend what you don't have. When you find things by creating new money, it devalues the money other people are holding and reduces opportunities for people who don't have money to make money.
>When shit happens and you need healthcare, they'll pull the same bullshit on you
Governments do the same thing with waiting lists and politically mandated service. The only difference is there's a defined limit on how much a private insurer can rob your estate before they kill you.

>>718618472
Do not give new zealand a pass please. I will gladly die in nuclear fire if it means they were taken out, too.

>>718618219
Canon was never canon, any elements in a story could be changed at any time.

>>718618472
Couls you nuke antarctica too? It would be funny.

>>718613949
>>when the whole fucking point of fallout is
what if transistor wasn't invented and the world had an all out nuclear war

>>718619504
Flexible timelines, man. Nothing can be trusted.

>>718617856
This. I Couldn't take the show seriously after they revealed one man destroyed the entire NCR with magic nukes he pulled out of his ass because he had a falling out with his wife and he is some sort evil fascist-capitalist stooge.
Still a fun watch if not only for the Ghoul and the setting, don't think Lucy is a terrible character either but the entire plot is just poorly written just like Fallout 4 (and 3 as well to a lesser extent desu) even though they are fun games, I don't consider any of it canon.

>>718617919
Sure Todd, whatever you say.

>>718619393
yeah, but what do you do, when the average moron is too stupid to understand how inflation actually works? if the average retard understood what inflation actually was and how debt really works, then everyone would freak the fukk out immediately. but they never do, do they? they only ever understand it when everything goes completely to fucking shit and a loaf of bread starts costing a hundred fucking dollars, or something...

I enjoy the subtle storytelling of the TV series. Historians will be talking about the meaning of this scene for centuries.

>>718619393
>False. You can't spend what you don't have. When you find things by creating new money, it devalues the money other people are holding and reduces opportunities for people who don't have money to make money.
No, in a fiat system, the government prints money into existence, so unlike everyone else, they don't have to earn their money. That means that they have to worry about managing real resources (food, energy, workforce, industry, infrastructure, etc.) and keeping inflation under control instead. If the government decides to spend money on a new mine/factory/power station/school/hospital, or training new doctors or whatever, they are using that fiat to effectively create new resources.
Spending isn't even necessarily inflationary. If the government spends a ton of money on a new power station/road/railway/whatever, but that thing ends up lowering costs and creating real growth for the rest of the economy, then that investment might even be deflationary. Energy costs are the main contributer to inflation.
>Governments do the same thing with waiting lists
The NHS was world-leading before it was deliberately targeted with ideologically-motivated cuts and partial privatisation, which meant that the growth of real resources (doctors, hospitals, medicine, etc.) slowed, despite the population continuing to grow. The NHS has much less bureaucracy than the American insurance system.
>politically mandated service.
You can't force people to be doctors. You can only encourage them with things like university, training, etc.
>The only difference is there's a defined limit on how much a private insurer can rob your estate before they kill you.
lol

>>718620975
Dr Strangelove reference?

>>718621115
bro why doesn't the government just fiat everyone lambos
jfc you're retarded

>>718588550 (OP)
>There's a lot of earning potential with the end of the world.

This is simply retarded.

>>718588759
Revolutionary thought was commodified long ago. Capitalism is insanely powerful in that regard. Selling shirts with Che Guevara on it - you cannot imagine the damage it's done to communist ideas.

>>718621221
>Supercars are the same as power stations, schools, and hospitals
Nice strawman, faggot.

>>718620975
the first season wasn't really that good. it was a five/six and that's me being very generous. no way any sane person could possibly score it any higher than that. and of course they had to give the wispy english chick a fashionable fucking "negro" as her love interest, that's just obvious coming from that kike, jeff bezos...

>>718620698
i was talking about tim cain not todd howard you stupid pajeet

>>718621361
Actually, the damage to communist ideas came from 100 years of total failure and genocide.

>>718588759
> no you dont get it, rich billionaires are the cause of EVERYTHING BAD now be a good goy and buy our product, don't forget to get the merchandise and DLC!
Thiel you are as much of a problem as other kikes.

>>718592981
I love those movies so much

>>718588550 (OP)
Neoliberal companies push these kinds of nonsensical plotlines because the truth would also implicate a large portion of them.

It's never about "selling more product".
It's always about vapid narcissistic psychopaths trying to exert control, take revenge on rivals, and "leave their mark".

If they wrote reality, you'd have a much more human story: a handful of good guys being forced to navigate a cesspool of evil midwits who lie as easily as they breathe and are doing everything in their power to dodge accountability (maybe even gaslighting themselves; that's how naturally they lie). The bad guys being helped by NPCs who are trying to keep their heads down. A watered down version of this same dynamic from the masses who cheer as they're successfully manipulated into providing the bad guys with more tax funding and regulatory protections, having not learned one single thing from the past century of this dynamic happening over and over again with the problems continuously getting worse (because like the bad guys in the corporation, they want their gibs).

>>718588550 (OP)
I think revealing who started the war misses the point. It isn't important who fired first because everybody chose to fight and everybody lost. War... war never changes.

>>718621873
Who in this thread is complaining about Tim Cain or the original canon? I only see people bashing the new show and Bethesda.

>>718589073
>"it's canon" ~ known hack faggot who can't even keep his own games straight let alone integrate it all to the actual canon

>>718622924
who cares? that shit died a long time ago. the only good game out of them all was fallout 1, anyways.

>>718619462
>>718619585
Done.

>>718623067
I enjoyed 2 more than 1, the whole thing with being on a 150 day timer to find the water chip was kind of annoying and the game was also a bit short compared to 2. Anyways New Vegas is the best out of all Fallout games regardless.

>>718588550 (OP)
>destroys the world to sell more product
sounds jewish
Uhhh based fallout saying they are the problem with the world??

>>718621887
>total failure
That isn't true. They do have two achievements. With the help of the democratic capitalist west, they dragged extremely backwards countries like Russia and China until they were less backwards and were able to help stop the Axis.
>genocide
kek

>>718588550 (OP)
>when are hollywood producers are going to realize this whole plotline is EXTREMELY retarded?
the plotline comes from their deeply held political beliefs and they are unlikely to change those any time soon.

>>718588550 (OP)
Wasn't this actually the plot to the cancelled Fallout movie from the 00s?

>>718624264
It was cancelled because it was retarded.

>>718614512
The whole 13th doctor stuff was bad but god does Timeless Child just destroy literally everything.
They can't really retcon it easily either since it would be undoing the doctor being black.
Not that it matters, the series seems about done anyways

>>718614512
Sounds like we need more writers like Cartmel.

>>718600830
>84 years after the bombs dropped
The biggest mistake in Fallout, when a setting of 1990s for the first games should be better with the war in 1950.
In Fallout 3 the year should be 2008.
New vegas, 2010
Fallout 4, 2015
etc.

Since we have only seen House in flashbacks during the trailer, there doesn't seem to be any NCR. And the Legion is still somehow around. What do you guys think the chances are that this motherfucker will be waiting in the Lucky 38 and the No gods, no masters ending is actually the canon ending to New Vegas?

>>718621504
It creates inflation the same no matter what you spend it on. Value doesn't care what religious sentiment you attach to something.

>>718626505
NCR got leaked onset already, they genuinely likely did a 'stalemate for 15 years' shit just so the new guys can come in and decide the end of the status quo

>>718611064
You are speaking shit to me.

>>718588550 (OP)
Umbrella wasn't initially trying to destroy the world, just sell bioweapons to governments and black markets when they weren't dealing with accidental viral leaks. Spencer's the one who used Umbrella to fund his private eugenics plan and remake the world with an evolved race, selling products was simply a means to that end.

>>718599048
Vault-Tec has the G.E.C.K.

>>718626505
The canon outcome will be whatever makes the most people mad. So it won't be any of the game's endings.

>>718591994
People are missing the main point. It didn't matter who started launching the missiles. Everyone who would have care were already dead. The survivors are left with the ashes. Trying to piece together something to keep afloat.

>>718630179
That's the whole problem. It seems like the show is trying to make that the main point and that's retarded.

all of you shut the fuck up

>>718628287
Supercars are just R&D platforms for the car industry. Making the money printer go brrr to give everyone a free Lambo doesn't benefit the overall economy, so it is inflationary.
Power stations make electricity, which is an input for most of the economy. If they make electricity cheaper, then one of the input costs for the rest of the economy is cheaper, which lowers prices overall, so it is deflationary.
Schools make the future workforce better educated, which means that businesses have to spend less on training, so it slightly reduces costs, and said workers are more productive, which slightly increases income, so it is deflationary.
Hospitals save people that would otherwise have died (which can include experienced workers) and treat various health conditions, which makes the workforce more productive.
>religious sentiment
Faggot.

>>718631732
Improving the economy in the long run doesn't make something not inflationary. You can watch any major forex pair and see how fast they react to government even talking about spending more money, and that change filters through the distribution chain to the consumer no matter what the whores at the DoC say. It may be the economy does improve enough to offset the initial loss for most people, but that value and opportunity cost is paid before the money is printed.

>>718630179
This. To the people living in the wasteland, whoever launched the nukes is about as important to them as are the socioeconomic conditions that led to the Napoleonic war to us.

>>718631732
>one of the input costs for the rest of the economy is cheaper, which lowers prices overall
It only works this way in theory. In practice the savings are never passed onto the consumer because of Shareholder Primacy.

>>718633812
that's why we kill the stock market

>>718634119
The left tried that back in 2010, corporate sicced the feds on them and they never recovered.

>>718633497
Since explaining how you were using a strawman doesn't seem to be working, how about I use some real-world examples?
Norway has lots of cheap North Sea oil and gas and lots of cheap hydroelectricity, so energy prices for its energy-intensive industry are extremely low. Norway spends lots of money on social services, and yet its real economy is so strong that that isn't a problem.
Finland recently spent a lot of money on a new nuclear power station, but despite the massive upfront cost and the fact that Finland uses the Euro instead of its own currency, it is actually having a deflationary impact because it is keeping prices low and stable for its electricity-intensive industry.
Germany currently has extremely expensive energy because they shut down their nuclear power stations and made themselves reliant on cheap Russian gas before Russia shut off the gas. Now much of its energy-intensive industry is laying off thousands of people and is at risk of dying off entirely.
Financefags panic at the slightest thing, but that isn't relevant to actual inflation.

>>718633812
Compare countries like Norway and Sweden with Germany and Denmark. Denmark is cutting services in an attempt to counter the inflation caused by expensive energy.

>>718594885
Wow, that sounds retarded.

>>718592981
This, but for the 1993 Mario movie.

>>718588550 (OP)
But muh House nkows the everyting

>To sell more products
Once you get rich money isn't about money or dollars or anything, you could just buy whatever you wanted.
It's an expression of power, and "selling more products" isn't the goal, they wield more power over people if there are only a few thousand people left and they're left with a high-tech facility that can just drone strike said people or release bioweapons on them.
Basically it lets them remake the world as they see fit, 100% power, therefore more useful than any money.
>>718594596
Yeah, this.
>>718602341
>I have more luxury than a king in the 1100's
They have infinitely more luxury than you in their bunkers, and said luxury will last for the rest of their life at least. They don't go outside and find luxury, it's not there, they had billions already and have made their perfect resort world inside their bunker.
Now they have their sim city world outside that they can just destroy instantly if they want to, a blank slate - and they have drones and bioweapons, so they can clear the slate whenever anyone does anything they don't like.

>>718588898
Silly Billy spotted.

>>718614224
>Yeah let's destroy the planet because
You are moralfagging a black-and-white issue here
>They already had luxury and more money than they could ever spend
>How could they have more power though, where the common person could do nothing against them?
>Nuke the world, live in their private bunker, drone strike anyone they don't like since everyone is back in the stone age
>>718614440
>EW ICKY RADIATION YUCK!
Currently they have to fuck little philipino brown kids, I don't think there's much of a difference. They could literally stick 10,000 survivors on a boat and just have them as a breeding stock of property they could do whatever they want with, with zero consequences. Can't do anything like that right now.
With a blank slate world it's just like playing rimworld with cheats on, they can literally do and build and make and own anything.

>>718588759
>no you dont get it, rich billionaires are the cause of EVERYTHING BAD
Why media corporations which are incredibly corrupt keep pedaling this message. It is almost a brag.

>Muhahaha we are evil
>Here is your escapism fantasy where you beat us
>That will be $99 + tax

China was never confirmed to have launched the first nukes, it was always kept vague and mysterious to show that it didn't matter.

Bait thread.

>>718588898
Shut up, Orpheus.

>>718589073
Making MMO lore and non-game lore "canon", is always the gayest shit.

>>718593712
Nate has always been a decorated war hero returning from the canadian front. Even if he wasnt literally the dude in the fallout 1 intro he was still doing something similar.

>>718588550 (OP)
>Waits until an hour before the nuclear war
>JEEVES, TAKE ALL OF MY MONEY AND USE IT TO BUY ALL THE NUKA COLA BOTTLE CAPS YOU CAN
>Right away, sir
Amazon, hire me.

>>718634234
Norway spends oil you illiterate. They have 38% debt to GDP. Here's one: Saudi Arabia sends all their males to madrasa somehow hasn't tanked their economy. 80% of the population is the product of first cousin breeding and has literally no useful skills, yet GDP just keeps going up. Spending is fucking magic.

>>718595557
"good billionaires" are called millionaire and are on the blink of ending homeless

>>718588550 (OP)
China won so hard kek

Honestly it would make more sense for the head of vaultec to have political asperations to become king of the u.s and his plan was to have just a FEW nukes hit the shitty cities like D.C and he come in and save everyone to be declaired ruler and he just fucked it all up. Think about it he launched a u.s nuke as washington and washington think china launched it so they fire a nuke at china thus war .

>>718594885
>they wiped out humanity to live in ashes and be powerful even though they had to be ultra powerful to pull something like that off in the first place
that makes a lot of sense thanks for clarifying

>>718588550 (OP)
That sounds exactly what the megacorps today are doing. They'd drive mankind to extinction if it raised their bottom line today. Tomorrow they'd have automation and AI and money printer printing fiat currency forever.

>>718594596
Why do your evil capitalist fictions always end up with the most retarded reductive policies where everyone lives in worse lives than tabula rasa, even though the reality of capitalism is always an improvement of general wellbeing. The best thing one could say about non-capitalist populist systems is that maybe some theoretical version of social communism can be more efficient at improving the general well-being than capitalism by sheer accident of perfectly pre-arranging resource distribution to match future trends at an accuracy better than the best actual predictive methods (which are currently being used by high finance analyics to determine investment behaviors). But the idea that some capitalist billionaire would nuke the world so that he can be the king of a barren wasteland instead of king of a garden city of polished marble and flowing clear water is retarded.

>>718588759
>An event later referred to as "The ________"

>>718635664
get back in the cage, wagie

>>718635737
?
I've been neet for 15 years because i live in a capitalist society

>>718593712
the implication of Nate being a psycho that executes canadians is funny to me

>>718635223
>Norway spends oil you illiterate.
Oil doesn't directly buy you doctors, retard.
>They have 38% debt to GDP.
And Turkmenistan has 4.7%, so are they richer?

>>718588759
>no you dont get it, rich billionaires are the cause of EVERYTHING BAD
but this is literally true?

>>718594885
>>718595865
>>718597686
>lets give up our mansions to rule a wasteland with less than .0001% of the amenities we had before
this is top tier retarded and so are (You)
it gets even worse when you realize most of them are dead as a result and or living a hellish life (see House)

>>718614685
Israel never had an army to conquer you with. Your own kings, queens, governments and politicians sold out your futures for money. Without the intervention by the British royalty, the state of Israel would never have existed and without the US bankers intermarrying with the rich jewish families, the Federal Reserve and global world banking never would have been created. Your ancestors gave them the power they use against you today.

>>718635664
>improvement of general wellbeing.
You can't be fucking serious.

>>718592981
Only the animated ones

>>718636724
Pack up and move to argentina or kenya or another nation that has never had its land economy ruined by a capitalist government then. You will assauge this argument as a joke or unserious remark because of how absurd the idea is in your mind of actually leaving a developed nation for an objectively worse outcome.

>>718637307
I consider this argument to be dishonest as it wasn't just housing prices that have become so high as to become unaffordable for the majority in US and other aggressively capitalist countries. There's entire nations in crippling debt, for most, starting with their birth. If you are going to stand here and say that making money out of thin air and debasing the currency so that reaches 1000% inflation is totally fine, your level of intellect is either about the same as that of the economists of ZImbabwe, or you're being politically dishonest. I don't live in the US by the way. Housing here is still affordable.

>>718588550 (OP)
>find a solution to the energy crisis
>blame capitalism for stopping it
This is on purpose. You retards aren't allowed see pass the stupid dichotomy.

Faggots here are forgetting that Pfizer was trying to pressure South America into selling them a large chunk of land with a unique stipulation that would say that the rules and laws of the country would not apply to anything that's on it and were witholding the vaccines unless they agreed. They didn't thankfully. The owners of megacorporations are comically evil, every single fucking parody and comicbook plot most likely falls short at describing how both retarded and malicious they are, because evil is stupid.

Give me your ideas on how to gain profits from the end of the world

>>718637894
>spray orange to proteest the use of oil in the UK
>when the UK could disappear and it would have negligible impact on pollution because they aren't china or india

>>718637894
My favorite part is that the only way to make communism look good is to literally involve magic. So the show's thesis isn't that capitalism is bad, but capitalism is bad when the magic is involved.

>>718637894
>Pic
Just Stop Oil is funded by the billionaire oil heiress Eileen Getty.

>>718638853
What is that? Fusion? Cold fusion (lol)?
Reprocessing and breeder reactors have existed since the 1940s and 1950s.

>>718594885

They're already rulers you fucking moron, except instead of ruling an irradiated hellscape they rule a decadent modern civilization that caters to their every single need. Your fucktarded excuse for logic would have them trade what is, for them, essentially a utopia for the husk of civilization where they can barely get clean water. You're fucking stupid.

>>718638772
To be fair, China is investing in nuclear power and hydroelectricity (and more fossil fuels) because it both needs to keep up with rising demand and it realised that a supply shock for fossil fuels will be bad for its economy.

>>718588550 (OP)
>resident evil also does this shit.
No it doesn't?

>>718608681
>have no themes
This isn't strictly true. For example, Fallout 3 was supposed to be about personal sacrifice, that was why in the original end, everyone insisted that the player character had to go in and die, none of your radiation-immune companions would do it, etc. Because you're supposed to go in and sacrifice. It's retarded, and it not only ignores but is actually damaged by, the strengths of the medium, but it's there.

>>718639204
And the Fallout show is made by Amazon and M$. Imagine having an ideology so useless at holding the elites accountable that it is hand picked by the elites as controlled opposition.

>Commies invented a fake ideology which says that people who disagree with them are evil money worshipers
>Somehow become more evil than them

>>718639579
I don't remember what is going on in Resident Evil right now but something something Wesker Zootopia porn.

>>718636097
>Oil doesn't directly buy you doctors
In fact it does. Gulf states buy skilled professionals of every stripe. Sometimes literally.
>Turkmenistan has 4.7%, so are they richer?
Why would you think that's the implication? They both operate on a low key hard money standard. At least hard-ish, like 50s America. They're not gambling present misery of the underclass vs future growth like the US or EU members.

>>718639279
Yes, the entire plotline of season 1 is that a communist lesbian invented cold fusion in Fallout universe and Vault-Tec didn't like that because they didn't know how to sell infinite resources. That is an actual explanation in the show.

>>718639824
It's not even actually lethal. You can stack radiation resistance and then just keep slurping on rad away for as long as your supplies last, which by that point should be pretty substantial, at least long enough to press the button and step out of the chamber. It was a very stupid ending.

>>718588550 (OP)
The roundtable of capitalist in the show predict that there is a high likelihood that a catastrophic war will break out, but the investment to survive and have a chance of winning if it does is so enormous that they need certainty so conclude they they need to start the war themselves. From the last episode:

Mr. House: There's a lot of earning potential with the end of the world. But we're talking about making a significant investment based on a hypothetical. How can you guarantee results?

Barb Howard: By dropping the bomb ourselves.

>>718640114
>In fact it does. Gulf states buy skilled professionals of every stripe. Sometimes literally.
Most Norwegian doctors are trained in Norway. Even the Gulf oil states train at least their oil engineers domestically.
>Why would you think that's the implication? They both operate on a low key hard money standard. At least hard-ish, like 50s America. They're not gambling present misery of the underclass vs future growth like the US or EU members.
No, they both use fiat currency. The gold standard hasn't existed since the early 1970s. Every so often, the USA hits the "debt ceiling", politicians make a fuss, and then it gets raised further because it's just a nothingburger.

>>718640756
The US was using fiat currency in the 50s. If you don't leverage up like a mad cunt it acts a lot like hard money. In effect both their currencies are backed by fossil fuel reserves.

>>718614542
Been that way long before Todd with the super computer not understandkng that the people need to reproduce to sustain a population

>>718617404
Calculating the nuclear armegeddon with math is infinitely more stupid than just having insider information from forced to participate in a consortium. Our doomsdsy clock has been reset like 25 times. It would do the writing favors House would ne retconned to have been huffing his own farts like he does when you kill him.

>>718623801
>I enjoyed 2 more than 1
we know, thats why you hate the fallout 3 trying to retcon everything about fallout 2 that fucked up the series and would rather have NV fellating it at the cost of any semblance of internal consistency to the point where every faction is crippled not by resource management or scarcity or inability to exert power but by a crippling lack of agency which only the player can provide and it is quite apparent that the only reason the wasteland still exists is as a status quo because no one except (you) has tried to do anything with it.

>>718640413
That's retarded. As nuclear fission, hydroelectricity, solar, wind, geothermal, etc. have shown, even if your fuel costs are low or nonexistent, you still have to pay to build and run the thing, and you also have to pay to build and maintain transmission and distribution.

>>718642143
House's 10 luck stat is represented as him being very analytical.

>>718642545
>That's retarded.
I mean, yeah, that's the show. It was shelved so that Vault-Tec could win the game of capitalism, ie achieving true monopoly by outliving the competition (almost verbatim quote from the show)

All I'm saying is Absolute Monarchy is the best and we need to return to tradition

>>718589465
After Rings of Power I cancelled my Amazon subscription.

>>718589154
you are literally retarded.

>>718594596
Honestly the more I think about it I think that the whole "vault tec launched the nukes capitalism bad thing" could've easily been done like this

>Government hate how much Vaults are costing them, demands for the whole project to be shut down
>See Vault Tec as a company trying to abuse the government and take as much money as they can from them to build worthless bunkers
>Government also learn (through incorrect intelligence, perhaps Chinese spies) that China doesn't actually have enough nuclear capacity to nuke America completely
>Vault Tec being greedy fucks (because capitalism bad) have a meeting and decide to trick China into launching a nuke at America since they don't have enough according to some insiders they have in the Government
>Maybe bring Mr House in here to build some kind of "fake nuke" device for China to think is real AND use his laser systems to shoot down the nukes that China will retaliate with like he did for Vegas
>By doing this they can scare the public into wanting vaults to protect them from this in the future, thus leading to the Government not withdrawing funding
>Fake nuke fired, China retaliates with their nukes but it's not just "a few" but rather a whole arsenal
>House can't take them all out and defends Vegas best he can (maybe even some bullshit about Vault Tec launching their plan early before the Platinum Chip arrives or something)

By doing it this way you can have a somewhat intelligent plan from Vault Tec, show "capitalism bad" in all its glory, have Mr House there in a somewhat lore friendly way, prove that Vault Tec are the reasons the nukes were launched AND you can even keep the "China launched first" lore intact.

It's not perfect since I'd rather they just never had this in the first place but it's better than whatever the fuck they came up with first.

>>718640413
And yet there's a cold fusion generator in every GECK lmao

>>718642845
Under Absolute Monarchy we were being ruled by an inbred group of cousin fuckers who were fucking insane as often as they weren't. It worked because the nobility was tied to the land they ruled and couldn't pick up their wealth and run away if they fucked up, that's literally the only difference between then and now, wealth holders are rootless and are able to run away, so they don't care about sustainability and not abusing everybody around them.

All we need to do is prevent wealth transfer between nations and make the wealthy fear for their lives. There is no greater deterrent to abusive practices than the sword of damocles.

>>718643178
The best part is that up until Bethesda games the cold-fusion generator was confirmed only via non-game material such as guide-books and I think Chris Avellone might have brought it up once in Fallout Bible? But it was actually Bethesda that completely outright confirmed that all GECKs have a cold fusion generator in them first in the games. So the entire plotline of season 1 directly contradicts Bethesda games.

>>718643240
Just roll good ruler rng

>>718588550 (OP)
Gun makers and defense manufacturers never have this problem.

>>718643332
That's the basic principle, but the sword of damocles will let you reroll as often as you want until you get a good one.

>>718643396
Realistically can society ever go back to absolute monarchy? I'm all for it but I imagine normies would freak and start going French revolution the moment it happens
Even if we did get a good ruler the deep state would just send carbombs and drones

>>718643000
The intended and only played out thing is "vaults are testing for long term spaceflight effects, we the rich of the enclave are going to fuck off and leave the world we raped to death because we're evil meanies"
New Vegas had all the setups from a quasi black isle stable of writers continuing their real story l. Repcon, house literally saying "In a generation I'll take these tribals to the last place untouched by gommunism... Space!" Etc. etc.

Emil can't write and the vaults and their tests are just to be evil from fallout4 on. 3 isn't well written but it plundered the IP they bought for story dressing so things are a bit less dumb vault/chronology wise.

>>718643979
Reminder that the planned ending for Van Buren (canceled fallout 3 by black isle/interplay) is the protagonist travelling to a functional moonbase and launching an arsenal of nukes at earth before the bad guys can reach the moonbase and nuke earth first.

>>718643509
>Realistically can society ever go back to absolute monarchy?
Hard to say, most people have a deep belief in meritocracy, even if that's not actually how society functions presently. Monarchy is an inherently nepotist rule, more relevantly it's open nepotism where what we've got is nebulous nepotism. You couldn't re-establish it through religious mandate as with the European monarchies because faith is at an all time low (per capita, actually higher going by raw numbers). It'd have to be done through meritocratic means, but that would also be difficult because you'd need a strong populist leader competent enough to get a plurality of people to agree to crown the leader willingly, but even more so to agree to having the position inherited by lineage.

Best you could probably do in the modern age is a dictatorship with successors being designated after a period of proving oneself to be worthy of rule. After a time, it would progress to straight monarchy because the best successor is the one you raise yourself.

>>718643509
>Realistically can society ever go back to absolute monarchy?
how close do you consider the soviet or chinese systems to absolutism?

>>718595069
I feel like Paul Anderson clearly had a vision for the first two live action movies but because of their success the studios demanded him to make more and he didn't have no idea where to go so said fuck it and copy Mad Max when he made Extinction

>>718643979
>the vaults and their tests are just to be evil from fallout4 on
I could see the more zany vaults as being specifically to test aspects of the human psyche in the same vein as the Stanford Prison Experiment. That kind of data is valuable in figuring out how to manipulate masses of people, as the Enclave wanted to do.

>>718588550 (OP)
>the lore was China launched the first nuke
>source: my ass, and possibly Wastelanders who are active hundreds of years after the Great War
>also resident evil????

I liked the show quite a bit; I think they did an outstanding job, all things considered, and I'm looking forward to the second season. You can be a bitter and jaded NV tranny all you like, OP, and I'll be enjoying quality vidya-inspired television.

>>718643979
>Emil can't write and the vaults and their tests are just to be evil from fallout4 on
You mean fallout 3. All the Penny Arcade strips about the vaults and their dumb experiments came out in 2008, 7 years before fallout 4.

>>718588759
YWNBAB

>>718644737
FO3 experiments are all scientifically backed. FO4 literally had a vault that was "what if we took a bunch of druggies and made them go cold turkey for a year and then opened up a giant stash of drugs and weapons and-wow they killed each other and the guards and the scientists incredible"

>>718644868
>FO3 experiments are all scientifically backed
>dude
>what if vault had a jaguar
>what if vault had a box of hand puppets
You can't be serious.

>>718644964
The hand puppet one could be argued to study the effects of extreme isolation and anthropomorphisation. Got nothing on the vault with a jaguar.

>>718645343
They already have a vault experiment for isolation.

>>718634948
Your idea of a billionaire is so fucking stupid
>Enjoying brown bussy in my private island
>You know what would be better than this?
>Ruining the air I breathe and the people I use for my slavery!
>Why? Mwahahaha, because then the radioactive boypussy I cum into will be THE ONLY radioactive boypussy around!
>This sure beats the good old days of le ebin pol shadow guvmnt of pedo pizza thingamajigs I totally did and no one ever reported on despite 8 years of public interest

>>718644964
>>718644737
the examples from the PA strip were from Chris Avellone's fallout bible.
All of you faggots have been outed as illiterate. I will be accepting your concessions for the next 30 minutes.

>>718645507
it doesnt matter anon, they dont actually care about the source materials or the setting as a whole. they only care that NV good.

>>718588550 (OP)
They don't do it to sell products. It's a natural evolution of the idea of destroying the world and causing massive harm to sell products- at a certain point you're just a conqueror, not a salesman.

>>718634463
That shit is bursting at the seams with creativity. There's no reason for a live action Mario movie to have such a compelling world.

>>718645568
Conquer it with what army?
Feed the army with what food?
Grow crops with what workers?

>>718645651
>Conquer it with what army?
An army of Mr Gutsys.
>Feed the army with what food?
Electricity from nuclear generators
>Grow crops with what workers?
Mr Handy.

>>718645468
People in general are pretty ignorant of how destructive a nuclear war would actually be, and it's becoming a hazard because the public is sleeping on retarded and/or psychopatic politicians flirting with the idea. Actual richfags would maybe want a mass conventional war because it is not TOO destructive and would offer the prospect of a massive boom time once it's over, but nuclear weapons act as an impendiment on their ambitions because they would just destroy everything. So nuclear war is both a sword of damocles and a shield protecting the normgroids from their overlords' shenanigans.

>>718645507
>>718645562
>the examples from the PA strip were from Chris Avellone's Fallout bible
Have you actually read Fallout bible, because I have and I don't have recollection of ever seeing something this retarded, and Chris has had retarded Vault ideas. The puppet vault has always been and always will be Emil's creation because whatever retard shit Chris could've come up Bethesda always has worse ones.

>>718644510
>Stanford Prison Experiment
Which was just done for the shock factor instead of collecting any useful data.
Stanfordfags are retarded. One of their energy professors claimed that more nuclear power would mean more nuclear weapons, which would mean nuclear war every 30 years, and the burning cities would release lots of CO2, so nuclear power is a high-carbon source of energy.

>>718646115
>The puppet vault has always been and always will be Emil's creation
It's neither Chris nor Emil's. Bethesda gave PA full freedom to make up their own vault.

>>718588550 (OP)
it's obviously a red herring to set up the origin of the enclave you goons
>everyoneabovethislinehasbeentrolled.jpg

>>718644964
At least Vault 68 and 69 could provide some slightly useful data (especially since Vault 69 actually has a small chance of surviving), but they're still retarded.

>>718594596
>>718594885

>"Haha me, the dumb ass billionaire already with power, is going to nuke the whole US working class and country, so I can rule over nothing. Now I can't enjoy life peacefully or accumulate wealth anymore with the powers I already had. Bow down, for I am King Nothing!"

riiight, the funny part about this is some millionaires and billionaires think like this due to being born into nepotism.

I know FO76 is a shit game, but I really like the premise of a vault full of the best and most brilliant minds of America who are all sleeper agents.

>>718645729
>nuclear generators
Who mines your uranium, reprocesses your nuclear waste, maintains your breeder reactors, etc?

>>718646352
Mr Handys.

>>718646242
Chris is credited as a co-creator, ultimately he approved of the idea and it's in line with his vision. Either way, I don't know why would someone even bother pinning it on Chris, the idea is 100% in line with Emil's vision for Fallout.

>>718646424
>Emil is credit as a co-creator*
Typo, I need to hit the bed.

>>718646375
Who maintains your Mr Handys? Mr Handys often (but not always) end up going violently crazy after a while.

>>718646201
>One of their energy professors claimed that more nuclear power would mean more nuclear weapons, which would mean nuclear war every 30 years, and the burning cities would release lots of CO2, so nuclear power is a high-carbon source of energy.
lmao WHAT?

>>718646486
Robobrains.

>>718646682
Mark Z. Jacobson.
The fact that Stanford has investments in fossil gas probably has something to do with it.

>>718646748
What happens when those also go crazy, which they sometimes (but not always) do?

>>718646486
>>718646824
You operate on some dumbfuck mentality that insists these robots are all in operation for the same length of time rather than having overlapping maintenance periods, like having different work shifts at a job.

>>718646115
so on top of being illiterate you also don't know what a joke is?
I said the examples from the comic, which did not include the subject matter of the comedy setup.

>>718588658
We need to nuke every nonwhite country and put niggers and spics in concentration camps

>>718646914
No, I'm saying that even with maintenance shifts, the rate at which they go crazy is random. That's why there are buildings that are full of crazy robots. You need a human to maintain them.

>>718647246
Nah, just a human brain. That's what the robobrain is for.

>>718647302
Robobrains also go crazy.

>>718647302
Robobrains are crazy by default

>>718647373
Regular humans go crazy too. Your point is rather moot.

So much goofy shit and reason its on par with Cruelty Squad. I woun't be surprised if we get "Radiation Magic" in the next game.

>>718647491
Radiation already worked like magic since the earlier games

>>718647543
Yes, but soon will get "Fallout, but with Magic"

>>718647649
You mean the Elder Scroll games?

>>718647714
Maybe

>>718647714
>"I used to be a lone wanderer like you, until I took a .44 to the knee"

>>718646957
>the examples from the PA strip were from Chris Avellone's fallout bible.
>it isn't
>"it was supposed to be a joke!"
Don't quit your day job if you were planning to be a comedian.

>>718647434
Robobrains use the brains of mental patients and convicted criminals, and being in a robobrain case is basically sensory deprivation. 200 years of that, and many of them are crazy.

>>718648894
Still doesn't matter.
Robobrains go crazy
Mr Handys go crazy
Humans go crazy
If everything goes crazy then you're better off not employing humans because the crazy in robots can easily be remedied by shorting them out and debugging what went wrong. The crazy in humans on the other hand can't be fixed as easily.

>>718649037
Humans don't usually live for 200 years and they usually stay sane, unlike robots and robobrains, which go crazy at a much higher rate.

>>718649139
>which they sometimes (but not always) do?
>which go crazy at a much higher rate.
Pick a lane turbofaggot.

>>718645468
The goal is not to enjoy their own lives, they already do that, the goal is to make you miserable. They openly come out and tell you that they want you to behave a certain way and you run damage control for them here. You deserve it, you stupid fucking animal.

>>718649281
Yeah yeah go fuck yourself with all that edge.