Thread 718615960

Doomers lost.

>Alk won
>Tri won
>Zaccie won
>Darth Microtransaction won
>Jonathan won
>Belton won
>Barricade won
>Poo2 won
>Mrllama won
>Poo1 lost
>Chris lost
>Quinn lost
>Cutedog lost
>Ziz lost
>Asmongoy lost
>Fubgun lost
>Jungroan lost
>Ghazzy lost
>Tatiatel2 lost
>Lily won

ngl seems like a 9.5/10 patch. No new class sucks, but all the fucking shit more than makes up for it. This fucking massive.

>>718615960 (OP)
Was there a new patch?

t. boughted beta yesterday and is only 6 h in

I bought it because I tried going back to Diablo 4 and couldn't. What a fucking disaster that game is...

>>718615960 (OP)
How the fuck did they do so much in 1 patch? Jesus Christ.

>>718616490
Too much to sum up quickly. They changed literally everything for the better. Might be one of the best GGG patches yet.

qrd as someone who doesn't play path of exile or games from that subgenre?

>>718616062
mathil status?

>>718616691
PoE2 has a very strong community of doomers who are constantly shittalking the game. New patch is giant W across the board and they are now incredibly BTFO.

>>718616691
Best game in the genre had a long awaited sequel with a pretty rough start. The initial game was okay, but kind of rushed and content barren. Second patch attempted to balance things but just doubled down into a bunch of really bad designs. it was also a pretty small patch.
This third patch content was revealed and just about every major concern for the game has been addressed in some way, and the amount of new content is pretty immense.

>>718616635
Pretty nuts actually. It just kept going and going.

>>718617289
I just can't believe they're buffing shit. Usually patches are nothing but nerfs.

>>718616490
You chose literally the worst time to buy the game. Should have waited 2 weeks.

>>718617502
I think we can expect some nerfs across the board to balance it out. Otherwise the game would be a joke.

>>718615960 (OP)
>they're turning the game into poe1 it's good now!!!
fucking redditards are so dumb

>>718617556
Why tho? I'm playing solo, I do not care about "seasons".

The wait until next week will be rough.

>>718617612
Yeah as long as they're just nerfing the out of line stuff. I'm fine with that. The problem is they usually focus so much more on nerfing then finding the bad shit that no one plays and making them usable.

>That lightning+ice infusion on Firestorm

I haven't played Sorc since the first couple weeks of 0.1. Guess I'm going back and seeing how many particle effects my 4070 can handle before it bursts into flames.

>>718617862
Even if they got nuts with the nerfhammer, with all the new shit that is coming I'm 100% certain there will be plenty sick shit to play. Just look at 0.2, it started out so rough, but in the end virtually every single class/weapon type had a set-up that could one-shot t4 Xesht.

>>718617618
Pretty much my takeaway too. I felt like a lot of the stuff felt pretty uninspired or phoned in too, like orb of transmutation 2 etc.

>>718618150
I'll also play Sorc. The new skill combos seem insane, specially with new trigger buffs and ele conversion. Can't fucking wait.

>>718618189
Yeah for boss balance I think the game is fine, but the game is so much fucking worse for everyone that isn't a deadeye that it's insane because 99% of the game is still traversing half empty maps and walking simulator mechanics like Trials and shit. Maybe sprinting will equalize things a bit.

Just the fact that we are not limited to use support gem only once gives a huge boost to variety of builds

>even /poeg/ likes it

Jonathan won.

>>718618830
Well no shit /poeg/ likes the patch that does everything reddit wants.

HOLY SHIT
HE ACTUALLY DID IT
THE NOT BALD FUCKING RETARD ACTUALLY DID IT

>>718618864
It's time to cut your losses, retard.

>>718618913
poeg won
WE WON

>>718618913
only good thing in the patch

>>718618913
people are gonna learn the hard way to price check every single item before they put them up for sale

>>718618913
Time to write FAG with items in my stash

>>718619216
I'm going to watch the market like a fucking hawk.

>>718619356
it will be botted to hell and back

>>718618913
Reminder that subhumans spent literal YEARS defending 'the vision' and citing an eight year old forum post as if it were holy scripture.

>>718619354
6 Tabs.
One letter each.

>>718619461
>I AM GAY
See yourself out, queer.

>>718619461
>D E A L S :)

>>718619356
How would you do that? It's not like there's a "most recently purchased" option to view on aution house

Do you still only get one chance in maps? This is a dealbreaker for me. I don't care how good the rest is, if this shit is still in.

>>718619691
No, I'll set up alerts for valuable modifer combos or rare uniques or whatever, and when some retard misplaces and item or logs in a wrong price I'll strike. I assume a lot of people will do that.

>>718619783
I love softcore tears.

>>718619691
Why would you need that? It's just sniping underpriced items like what happens a good bit currently, but now instead of the seller having a chance to notice a bunch of hawks and bots are trying to jump on a too-good-to-be-true deal and being able to reprice, they get no chance and the item's gone instantly without them ever learning the real value lol.

>>718619812
Oh that makes sense. Will probably be hard to beat the bots though which is why I'll be in ssf..

>>718619783
This was already changed in 0.2. For regular maps you get 6 portals, but for every modifier you add it becomes 1 less. So a map with full mods has only 1 portal.

>>718619783
They already changed it months ago. You get 6 tries at a white map, and the number of tries reduces the more mods you add to it, eventually becoming 0 retries on a map with 6 mods. Higher risk, higher reward. Also you get infinite tries at T0 pinnacle bosses to give you a chance to practice them before you move onto the big boy difficulties.

>0 new classes
>0 new ascendancies
1.0 in early 2028 at this point

What are you guys starting? Feeling unarmed chayula.

>>718619356
while you spend 12 hours a day staring at the trade site to make 1c profit I will be playing the game ;)

How to fix Poe 2.
>Remove 1 skill screen wipes
>Skill tree for gems so every skill feels different.
>Skill gem trees change the way you press buttons so everything feels different
>Prefixes affixes for skill gems
>Remove mass air
>Make combat go with the input speed of the player mouse click= faster enemy kill.
>Remove this greater and lesser nonsense and add just a new currency that does those things.
>Remove currency and replace crafting with physical things you can do in the game.
>Add things that you can do in maps like the new things they added.
>Weather affects the maps and the player
>Add sporadic traps from trials from poe that enemies can step on or interact with

Did Merc get any big changes, that's the only class I've liked so far.

>>718618913
>forget to restock your shop before you go to sleep
it's ogre

>>718620076
https://poe2db.tw/The_Third_Edict_league_Mercenary

>>718619893
>>718619968
Alright. Guess I'll give it another try then.

So, are you guys converting all your tabs?

is the game free yet or are they still in the milking phase

>>718620048
ofc the namefag is downright retarded

Can I play a necromancer yet or will I get my ass kicked if I don't meta Witch?

>>718620048
How to fix Poe 2.
>you can't, it's already fixed

>>718620315
Still milking. But they if you want to get hooked they are offering a free weekend.
>>718620406
Minions Spectres are getting buffed across the board, and there were also some new minions leaked. You should be good.

did u guys notice how fast the mace attack speed was during the essences section. are melee bros actually back

>>718620292
I feel like the best thing to do is convert a quad tab to a merchant for low value sales that you don't mind getting gipped on if you put something of medium value in there by accident, and leave a regular premium tab for high value sales so you can personally approve the more important trades.

>>718620406
There is no Necromancer and there never will be.

>>718620235
Might be cool. I liked the Armor Break/High Velocity build in the early game. Maybe with the new mortar using poison grenades with the armor break poison support Gem you could get pretty good consistent armor break and clear.

>>718620541
Maybe. Need to see patch notes, because if I can still run around on a mount and hit the entire screen with a lightning spear there's no fucking reason not to just go deadeye lighting spear again. The one time I am really hoping for an ultra nerf.

What do you think happens when you jump in the Well of Souls?

>>718617734
They are changing half the game, anon. It's a pretty big overhaul

>>718620542
Yeah, you want to keep at least one for yourself. Just to leave some room for haggling. When I craft good shit I often put it up for like 200div, and then people whisper their offers. With AH that obviously wouldn't be possible.

>>718617114
>amount of new content is pretty
It’s literally just one new act that has been ready for months now lmao.

>>718617618
>>718618234
are they really just giving up and making it play more like poe1

>>718620780
My kino schizo take is 5 extra skill points.

This is stupid broken right now.

>>718620780
It has a 50/50 chance of deleting your character permanently, or letting you level to 110.

>>718615960 (OP)
There's literally no reason not to play a right side build at least once in 0.3, before they dumpster Deflect into the ground in 0.4. That shit will be TOO good

>>718620945
basically
>massively buffed everything
>added sprint button so you can zoom through maps like you have a permanent quicksilver on
>no longer limited to one of each support gem
>starting to add in overpowered crafting methods
>powercreep out the ass in various other forms
>still nerfing enemies
i will be surprised if this league isn't poe1 tier zoomslop already

>>718620780
unironically it probably voids your character or gives it a massive buff

>>718620780
Gives your character lich AIDS

>>718621132
if they actually make this shit play like the original poey then what the fuck was the point of 2 (beyond money laundering O ALGO)

>>718621167
>it probably voids your character
IMAGINE

>>718621250
at first it was trying to be different but they clearly caved and are now just listening to complainers who thought white mobs were too difficult

>>718621345
I knew this would happen. I was going to wait even 2 years or whatever until it was actually finished to play but I knew they'd eventually cave. Glad I played 0.1 and 0.2 at least.

>>718615960 (OP)
There any notes I can skim yet?

>have to wait another 4 months for the next patch

Jesus fucking Christ.

>>718621593
Yeah same, it's basically over, they can't go back from this, it's buffs and powercreep only from here on out.

>>718615960 (OP)
Enjoy draining the aqueducts in act 3 20+ times again

>>718621061
>usable with gloves
So it's HoWA league again. Sigh

>>718615960 (OP)
The game is not even finished. I am glad that paid beta testers liked the 0.03 version.

>>718615960 (OP)
Only thing I dislike is that sprinting and getting hit by ANYTHING is a long ass stun

>>718622302
Nah.

>>718617618
noooooo a sequel should be different to the original game!

>two handed mace is no longer fucked by accuracy
Thank god

HOLY FUCK HOW FUCKING LONG ARE THEY GONNA TALK??

I WANT THEM TO DROP THE FUCKING PATCH NOTES ALREADY

>>718621108
what is right side build?

>>718621250
PoE1 is an old game, at the very least it's core needed upgrading, the coding, engine, whatever, it's all at it's limit. The game itself is also incredibly ugly, so seeing a game made from the ground up with actual budget to be appealing to the eye is nice too.

Even if 2 were a carbon copy of 1 it would be worth it, imagine dragging the same game along for 20 years.

tencent shills outta the wood work

>>718615960 (OP)
this game sucked ass, I fell for the psyop.
d2 shits all over it, and even d3 is fucking better than this.

>>718616685
Are we getting ACT 4?

>>718624559
>diablo shitter filtered by poe
Shocker.
>>718624615
Yes. And you'll have to play acts only once. They are adding a temporary 5th mini act to bridge you to maps.

>>718616685
can you give the non tl;dr version?

is anyone going to play last epoch tomorrow

>>718624703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIhIXv9b7Qo

Here, this is the content reveal video. For comparison, the last PoE league, which contained a whole new endgame expansion was only 40 minutes long.

>>718624834
Ill probably play my fill of last epoch then give this a try. Thatll give time for the bugs to get ironed out.

>>718615960 (OP)
Video games are for faggots. If you play video games you might as well chop off the twig and berries and start injecting estrogen because you're already halfway there to becoming a degenerate troon cocksucker.

>>718624834
Meh, I wanna play 0.3 and 1 week isn't really enough to start LE.

>>718618990
You deserve every shovelful of shit that they ram into your mouth.

>>718624692
Ok, I'm guess I'm back.

>>718624703
>>718624703
>Act 4 + interconnecting mini acts which ultimately gets you to the end game rather than having to repeat the acts on cruel difficulty
>Sprint button
>The same support gems can now be used on multiple abilities at the same time
>Unarmed spec for monks
>You can now set up a shop to sell your items without requiring you to be there for the trade. Works while offline
>Abyss being added as the new league mechanic

>>718625078
>>718625167
>doomer melty

>2 hours old tread
>barely 100 posts
Poop is dying.

>>718625296
You lost, pajeet. Go buy an ad or fuck off.

>>718618913
is this auction or something else?

Sprinting seems like a retarded addition. Why not just make the maps smaller? Why do they insist on making me spam buttons to travel large empty spaces?

>>718624974
>>718625280
Thanks bros I'm skimming the video
>greater and perfect versions of orbs
Nice that is a good move
I just hope they made combo/chaining combos more rewarding. Really hated how stupid it made me feel to practice combos early game then watch everyone else spam 1 skill in endgame and do much b etter

>>718625723
>I just hope they made combo/chaining combos more rewarding.
Check out the part about the sorceress rework.

https://youtu.be/xIhIXv9b7Qo?t=1788

>>718615960 (OP)
>"here's your unharmed monk bro"
it was actually just a quarterstaff monk with glasses and a mustache, fuck you Jonathan

>POE players just want powercreep
i hate every single fucking one of you

>>718625972
>new ARPG player
>already learned by the middle of 0.2 that ARPG players are a bunch of fags that don't want an actual game
It sucks, bro.

>>718619968
>higher risk, higher reward
during the presentation they showed a map with 7 negative mods and literally ZERO positive ones or extra loot quantity/rarity except for waystones. Maps are still really underwhelming for that alone

>>718626065
Did you kill Arbiter?

>>718615960 (OP)
bros is it finally time to download? got a beta key pack a while ago but have mostly just been grinding the poe1 league and campaign since im a pretty new player

>>718625828
That's definitely what I wanted to see, hope its like that for mercenary too

>still no fucking SWORDS in the game
HOW THE FUCK/?????/

>>718626669
>no swords
>no blood magic
>skeletons just walk around like random mobs instead of neat formation
>unarmed monk is just quarterstaff monk with an invisible weapon
It's not a bad game by any stretch, but goddamn PoE2 is really starting to get me pissed at it, doesn't help it'll probably just be poe1 with better graphics by the time 1.0 rolls around

Does it bother anyone else that Jonathan still refers to the characters as "classes" that are tied to a specific weapon type? Like, those aren't "ranger buffs", they're bow buffs and anyone can use a bow if they want to. The fact that each character is just a starting point on the skill tree and a choice of different ascendancy nodes is one of the iconic design decisions which sets this game apart but the people developing it seem to have just forgot

>>718627673
no

>>718625576
Your sale tab is public and people can just yoink stuff out, auto paying the price you set. That means they can also look at the random stuff you have in there besides what they came for, so you can perchance also sell them some knick knacks

>>718627673
Nobody plays that way nigga

Diablo 4 with all its flaws, is unironically the better game.
PoE2 is a snooze fest. God damn what a boring game. It’s a shame, I had such high hopes.

>>718628181
I played a quarterstaff Stormweaver on 0.1 and used the "all cold damage can shock" + double shock nodes to completely fuck shit up with bell + ice strike, it was kino as fuck

>>718616938
exactly how poe1 open beta was. I still remember the endless
>GUYS I SEE SO FEW PLAYERS IN SARN. IS GAEM DED?

>>718618913
FINALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>718615960 (OP)
>1 patch
Game saved?

>>718624615
Act 4 and temporary mini act 5, 6 and 7.

What's the point of seasons? To grind even more?

>>718619812
>No, I'll set up alerts for valuable modifer combos
50 people in the hideout rushing towards the NPC
hiding the NPC behind a maze of hideout decorations

>>718619449
That forum post did a good job explaining their reasoning and the dangers of making trade too easy. What's your problem with it?
>8 years old
Would you feel better if they had reposted it once every year?

>>718615960 (OP)
Sadly it looks like they're not slowing the game down. But the campaign is going to be fun for sure, looking forward to it.

>>718619997
I think they're aiming to go "yeah, sure 30% of the stuff is still missing, but fuck you, 1.0".

>>718627872
Oh nice how it always should have been. Might try this game again now

>>718626669
The class that is associated with swords isn't in yet.

>>718630212
The point of seasons is to understand the good part about ARPGs. It's a genre about getting items, not having them.

>>718618913
>buy items when sellers are offline

a feature straight out of 1998 lol

>>718628701
Vision status?

>>718630637
Feel the weight on suicide watch

>>718628181
The best build in the game in 0.2 was Ranger using spears though.

>>718620292
Are they ever doing a tab sale again?

>>718621167
*krangles your skill tree*

>>718625683
You just hold space after a roll.

>>718615960 (OP)
>poe2 teasers and exilecon gameplay hits the scene
>its garbage
>believers say it will be way better when its playable
>beta comes
>its garbage
>believers claim its better than poe1 because... it just is.
>doomers make hour long videos detailing everything wrong
>first round of balance and mechanical patches
>believers rejoice claiming its now finally better than poe1
>its garbage. Less than a third of the issues were addressed, and those that were addressed were done poorly.
>first league is teased. dawn of the hunt.
>believers smugly claim doomers are btfo poe2 will finally be 100% better than poe1
>league launches
>its garbage
>believers cry that poe2 was always better than poe1 anyway. The changes suck because theyre making it more like poe1 zoomfest
>balance patches nerf the meta build
>poe1 enjoyers quit entirely
>believers rejoice they can finally breathe again
>believers quit too anyway
>2nd league is teased. The third edict.
>believers party. "Doomers lost" they say.
>league launches
I wonder what happens here? Maybe the pattern is incomplete?

>>718623545
right side of the tree -> builds that spec into dex/evasion

I swear I refunded this after playing on launch and realizing it was trash. But I guess no, there it is in my library.

Downloading now I'll give it another shot.

>>718616062
The fact you know all these random people is just sad anon, what happened to your life

>>718621132
You made up half that list tho doomer fag

>>718624834
Ye I'm gonna try fan of knives umbral blade again on HCSSF and see how far I get
After that I'm gonna maybe try a new lich build, I love how new death seal looks and I was already an endurance lich enjoyer in a prior version of the game

>>718619783
Yeah thats always been the case lol.
Oh wait you are playing softcore lmao.

Smith of Kitava
Tactician
Stormweaver
or
Chronomancer
Which one?
>>718634667
>>718619821
It's funny how Hardcore wasn't even mentioned anywhere. You'll die from server lag and be happy lmao

>>718619412
>bot sells mirror tier item for 1 exalt
>i instantly buy it
>item is no longer on the market
oh no

i just want swords man :(

any tard that played s2 knows what the temporalis farming meta is nowadays and if it will even be worth it ? At release i made bank just because people were to retarded to not get hit by traps, until the dupe happened..

>>718634912
>Smith of Kitava
I played it last league, it was extremely comfy on a low budget but according to the patch notes the 5%/s HP regen was nerfed to 3% which will make it significantly less tanky. Sad, but it's probably still strong.
>Tactician
The wildcard. It got a load of buffs but will that be enough to raise it out of dogshit tier? We have no idea.
>Stormweaver/Chronomancer
Doesn't matter, remember you can switch ascension now.

>>718634984
>>i instantly buy it
What makes you think that you load in quicker than the other 30 people who are trying to snipe the item?

I can finally play my monk without that stupid Quarterstaff.

>>718635487
>The wildcard. It got a load of buffs but will that be enough to raise it out of dogshit tier?
They added mortar, buffed banners and made a few changes so I hope it's at least playable. I initially wanted to try it but it seems that the mage and warrior got way more love

>>718635545
thats the point, bots cant manipulate the market and make noobs checking awakened exile to put their items up for 1 exalt

>well ackshully bots are good because i personally will be the only one who takes advantage of the human error involved to get mega rich
American-ass attitude

>>718636205
Bots aren't such a big deal as price fixers

>>718618913
This is the one thing they could have done to make me not play the game any more, hopefully they don't put this in poe1 as well

>>718636787
>hopefully they don't put this in poe1 as well
Anon...

>>718636902
Well then i guess i won't play poe any more because the economy and bartering was the whole appeal of the game. No more being a shopkeeper. Now it's going to require no neuron activity whatsoever and be just like every other braindead arpg. I wonder how catering to modern blizztard normalfags that will abandon them at the drop of a hat will work out for GGG.

>No swords
>No axes
>No daggers
>Nerfing Warrior survivability because ???????
>Buff the shit out of the strongest builds in the game while completely ignoring everything else

Legitimately baffling patch.

No druid or strength/int class is weird. I know they said they fixed crossbows but I have to play to get the feel. They always felt like dogshit. Lets hope it is good.

>>718637121
wasn't armor in such a shit position that every class was energy shield

>>718637281
Yes. Their response to this? Giant's Blood now halves the amount of HP you gain from Strength.

?????????

>>718630637
Left the company

>>718637324
i never trust the hype because there will always be some fine print nerfs after the patch promises buffs

>>718637071
realistically we should've seen the writing on the wall when we started to suspect Chris was no longer at GGG. For better or worse he was the lifeblood of the company, Mark is fine but he doesn't understand the appeal of Diablo 2 like Chris did, and I have nothing to say about Jonathon.

GGG is dead.

>>718637071
shouldn't arpgs be about killing monsters and not a hideout trade site simulator

>>718637689
Yup as much as people shitpost about "the vision", he truly did have a good vision for the game even if he had some bad decisions or ways about getting there sometimes. Seems like right around when Chris was probably exiting the company about 1-2 years ago, they stopped being so confident and stubborn on design principals for PoE 2 in favor of assuring reddit they were listening to all their feedback etc. Now instead of vision the game has mass appeal.

>>718637805
Actions in ARPGs should have value. I like running top tier maps and doing difficult crafts then popping back into my base to actually physically trade sick loot to people. Only a dumbass thinks ARPGs are about running around repetitive maps mashing M1. That's not a real video game. Normalfags have ruined this game. Its not worth playing for me now. The economy is going to be so optimized and boring now, and that's the best case scenario. It may just collapse entirely.

I still remember Dawn of the Hunt hype and how fast it fucking died, I'm gonna wait for few days first

>>718618913
Is this mean china lowbar bots are dead? say yes, please

>bent the knee and made another patch turning the game more towards poe 1 (a fun game), proving doomers were right
>doomers lost
SOFT post

>crafting options are still so bad that they revamped a decade old trade system to mitigate newfag angst
>still no alts
>lmao tier endgame, still no real atlas tree
>still not SSF viable/rewarding
Take your stupid offline trade bullshit and stuff it up your mutt Polynesian hairy asshole Jon. This fixes nothing of the fundamental problems. Cook for another year then we'll talk

>>718638374
>Price fixing bots are dead
Yes.
>Bots that detect underpriced items, warp to them and buy them in 0.1 seconds, then flip them for their real value are dead
No.

the gameplay is still going to be slow clunky dogshit isn't it?
removing the cap from support gems doesn't fix that

>>718638463
This is the type of retard they tried to appease with offline trade. Hopefully the game dies.

>>718624834
Yeah. Will try beastmaster

>>718638483
It's better I guess...

>>718638570
he's right though
crafting is still going to be absolute dogshit and the atlas is still asshole
it's just not a good game
if it didn't have good graphics nobody would play it

Play Torchlight Infinite instead of PoE2

My interest in POE2 waned when I realized the market is only viable for the first week or two of a league, before snowballing will make it so only the discord groups of sweaty fags will control everything.

If you were actually able to find a rare item and do some lateral trading until you got rich and could become a merchant in your own right, THAT would be awesome.

Basically, the game needs a release valve, a way for items to not ONLY appreciate, but also lose value.

did they ever fix that ryzen cpu constant crash bug thing
I was enjoying the fuck out of this game until what, late november/early december? when that hit and fucked me over completely, I wanna play again

>>718638937
Median XL (Diablo 2 mod) has items called mystic orbs that apply (usually) small stat buffs to items in return for raising the level requirement for the item by (usually) 4 each time they're used. So basically your gear continues to grow with you, but also essentially gets removed from the trade economy so people who find those low to mid tier items later than 3 days into a season can still actually sell them.

My only question is, have they figure it out a way to not make endgame a one ability mashing

>>718639316
They're making it a bit easier to do some of the combo skills they keep trying to push on people but overall it seems like the game is trending even more in the "use one skill to shit out screenwide area or projectiles to kill everything in sight instantly" direction despite that.

>>718638937
its an ARPG not a stock market simulator

seek help

>>718639485
Twas that aspect of this specific ARPG that made me even more interested. Still like the gameplay, but disappointed the market is not what I imagined.

I used to play Maplestory, and had good memories of setting up a shop with items.

>>718638570
Nothing I said was wrong, and that cuts you deeply. Offline trade, and trade as a general system, exists purely to sand down and lubricate the slot machine that PoE is. It accomplishes nothing but save you a bit more time. No inherent boost to the "game" part, only the 2nd job aspect that trade leagues are.

>>718638937
not sure about poo2, but in poo1 over time everything gets cheaper vs the only currency that matters - your time. the game just throws currency at you. there's no scarcity, map investment is tiny in comparison with returns. it never stops, items drop infinitely.

>>718639939
>Nothing I said was wrong, and that cuts you deeply
This seems like projection.
>/tv/ webm
Not defeating accusations of being a normalfag retard.

This game is trash for retards

>>718640134
It is now. However, this also goes for every other ARPG. Guess we don't need 24/7 diablo threads any more either, because those games are even worse.

>>718639316
Kind of. A decent portion of the patch reveal tonight was dedicated towards Sorc being encouraged to use multiple spells. For example, all fire/lightning/ice exposure debuffs have been merged into simply 'elemental exposure', so you don't have to stick to one element. And now a bunch of spells are now builders (that drop orbs of their respective element) while a bunch are spenders (that consume said orbs). So, for example, Firestorm can now consume fire orbs to increase its radius, ice orbs to add hail, or lightning orbs to add thunderbolts (or all three at once to fill the screen with nonsense). I'm >>718618150, if you couldn't tell.

>>718640039
>unironically using the PrOjEcTiOn defense on 4chan
>still never even made a point, arguing just to argue
Leddit is over that way, tranny

>>718640201
You don't have an argument because you're a nitwit lol. This isn't a discussion. You aren't fun to talk to. I'm talking down at you.
>I said thing I'm too stupid to do is bad, thats my argument. Debate me, liberals
Thrilling.

>>718618913
>asynchronous trade
so just the auction house...how fucking pretentious lmao

>>718640186
the past patch problem was using more than 1 ability to set up in endgame is too risky when monster can oneshot you so every players just opp to play one ability instead, I guess we will see.

>>718638214
>should have value.
Nigga you're chasing pixels lmao

>>718640297
>schizo seething and not seeing the irony of his post
>pumps himself up on an anon board
>still has no point
I accept your concession, I guess...

>>718638419
so it's not an elden ring wannabe? damn time to buy

>>718638214
>objectively good thing happens
>avatarfag bitches about it
i swear all of you faggots have the worst fucking taste

>>718638937
It's literally going to be easier than ever to be rich in 0.3 with the added currency bloat

August 29th is going to be nonstop shitposting about this game for a week isn't it

>>718638937
I mean you're competing with bots, unless you have a bot farm you're never going to catch up with them

>>718640773
they haven't abandoned the souslop larp enough yet, wait a year

>>718624692
>Yes. And you'll have to play acts only once
reinstalling

>>718641086
Yup this is huge all by itself. I'm coming back

>play through campaign zones twice
>no way!!
>play the same map 3000 times
>fuck yesss

>>718618913
To all the newfags who think this is just an auction house, you are in for a rude awakening. You still need to use the trade site to buy items with this system. This in fact will cause an even larger gap between the regular/new players, and the guy who understands how to use the site and has multiple tabs open with live searches going. Also, from a very experienced and long time plyer's perspective, I expect this to also be an abysmal shit show, combined with the free weekend.

>same map when it’s been stated it’s different zones
Man zoomers are not sending their best

>>718641404
they said they are adding a in game version calm your tits

>>718641558
Good

They need to finish the game before adding random bosses 0.1% of players will ever see

>>718638937
Here's the secret.

>Just fuckin' play the game lmao
Hear me out. No matter how bad the game's economy gets, at its very worst it can only possibly be as bad as SSF league is every single day. So if you're a late starter, just pretend you're playing SSF. When you get a raw div drop, you can leverage it into a big upgrade. That's under the assumption that there's absolutely no new players selling gear that's 'merely' 80% as effective for 2ex (they will be, and it will be plenty sufficient for you to make your big gear refresh once you leave campaign and head into maps, which is the only big refresh you should need).

Wonder how many problems GGG would fix by boosting drop rates in SSF and preventing that mode from migrating to trade league. No clue what they lose aside from being annoyed by people's MTX

>>718641404
>long time player
>think new players will actually egt to end game and find items that are worth sniping in one free weekend
way to out yourself in the same post buddy.

>>718641649
Look into the current state of Maplestory. That has (effectively) SSF servers which are relatively F2P-friendly competing with the RMT-enabled trade servers, and the result is that fucking nobody plays the trade servers because why would you when you can get nearly the same experience on Rebirth servers without paying a couple grand just to compete?

GGG doesn't want that, I would assume.

>>718641404
literally no one cares about tradespergs and their digital dragon's horde.
this system is still infinitely less of a hideout sim ballache for normal players.

>>718617618
>they're turning the game into poe1 it's good now!!!
This, but 100% unironically.

>>718617618
Z(D)oomgods won

>>718615960 (OP)
so fucking sick of doomers being physically incapable of shutting the fuck up.

>>718635295
DOnt you just stand in the top corner of the boss or something? Forgot what the meta for it is.

>>718620048
Shit like this is why none of you faggots you should ever be game designers.

>>718640819
>poe is exclusively kept alive by people with autism
>do things that specifically malign people with autism
what did you expect

>>718643184
At this point PoE is kept alive by normalfag retards that like to see pretty lights and number go up. While there are autistic parts of the game they aren't engaged with by the vast majority of the players. PoE hasn't been a game *for* autists in like 10+ years.

>>718643520
it really doesn't live up to the reputation at this point, everything has been streamlined and expedited.

>>718636787
>Troonimai
>Tranny take
Lol

>>718640819
>objectively good thing happens
Do you feel like you've won? Now its a copy of Diablo 4 and the people who felt its different don't want to play it. What did you gain here?

>>718640365
it doesn't work like auction houses in other games so why use that terminology?

>>718644276
>it doesn't work like auction houses in other games
it does now

>>718641404
so it's just an acution house?
are you going to tell us what an rude awakening it is that people will buy low sell high?

>>718642983
I know its a boy who cried wolf situation at this point, but this is genuinely really unreasonably bad right now.

Poop Of Excrement II

>>718642983
just use filters on vg

>>718645237
SOFT post

>>718645281
you wont get my attention on vg your post is hidden

Off-topic, but should I just focus on the main quests in Diablo IV and just save the sidequests for afterwards?

>>718618913
Despite what doomers say about trading culture this is a good change. I fucking hate seeing pages of the one unique I need being unable to be traded due to sleeping Koreans.

>>718645408
Why would you "play" that

>>718645537
This is a result of you not knowing how to use the trade site. The only thing that will change is those trades won't be there any more, you still won't be able to find a trade with any one.

>>718645408
The side quests are only good for grinding out renown in regions.

>>718645685
>the trade site being flooded with unbuyable garbage is a good thing actually
Truly baffling post.

>>718645828
>I can't use the site so now I'm going to make the game boring for people who can use it and still get filtered anyways because I don't understand the game at all
Brilliant.

So as someone who played up to T8 in December what exactly are they going to do to the endgame? I got bored of it very quickly and haven't touched the game since, but the aesthetics of this game are amazing and I'm going to play the new "season." I've literally only ever completed the campaigns for 3 games in this genre, PoE 2, Torchlight and Diablo 4. Diablo 4's endgame at Torment 4 and onwards got even more boring more quickly than PoE 2's back in December.

>>718646305
The endgame isn't going to change substantially for a long time. They're adding a new league mechanic, which just like the others adds a new way that extra monsters spawn into your map to drop extra loot and some of that loot is tied to a new mechanic to add more mods to your loot. The endgame will always just be random maps with random encounters spawning random enemies for random loot.

>>718645620
Right, what an I thinking? I'll go back to III then.

>>718646098
If making the trade system less dogshit is all it takes to make the game "boring" for you then that's a you problem. Maybe try actually running a map sometime.

>>718645828
the trade site is/was/will always be flooded with garbage.
it's going to be amazing in poe 1 for bulk selling 8mods.

>>718646617
Alright, but there was also the ridiculous type of dungeon that I as a warrior struggled to get my ascendancies. Is that really what they're intending for the main game?

>>718646305
It sounds like the genre isn't necessarily your favorite, because the endgames are always doing the same shit for incrementally stronger shit. As the other anon mentioned, they aren't going to be altering the endgame much for a while if at all. You might like PoE 1 still, but it's the same concepts. Nothing wrong with just enjoying the leveling experiences and dropping out when you're bored though.

They add some janky "spring" and the mouthbreathers start clapping like seals. No druid either lol.

>>718646740
When I run maps it's to sell massive amounts of things on the tradesite. I run influenced bases in poe1 and sell over a hundred crafted items a day when im playing. Now if I want to play (which I wont) I'll be doing it automatically no different than dumping scarabs on the currency exchange. This is so fucking soulless and gay. How are you going to put a generic MMO AH into a game where you trade thousands of items in a playthrough, this is so stupid. It's clearly decided by people who have never actually made it to endgame, let alone completed it. In their QA they said all the changes were due to "finally playing their game" so they weren't even paying attention to it. Chris actually played PoE. A lot.

>>718646921
>struggled to get my ascendancies
Yeah, the Trials are intended to be annoying challenges you beat to get your class power. Warrior was the weakest/clunkiest class balance-wise, so you were at a disadvantage but many newer/inexperienced players have complained about the Ascendancy Trials. They are intended to suck a bit, but your character was on the furthest end of the suck spectrum.

>>718646921
Not really, those are spikes of difficulty because they reward big spikes of power. And they're tuning them down a lot over time. Plus once the game's actually done there will be 3 different ones.. Sekhema in Act 2, Ultimatum in Act 3, and some autobattler type thing in Act 4 when it's done I believe. You can skip the ones you don't like to do and just wait to get all your points in the one you find most tolerable.
The overall experience they seem to be going for is zoomzoom map blasting, blowing up screens of monsters, minimal threat overall.

>>718647093
> How are you going to put a generic MMO AH into a game where you trade thousands of items in a playthrough
You do understand, that an async trade mechanism IS better for volume, right? Unless you're actually deriving some enjoyment out of manually opening the trade window and dragging items around, but in that case no sane person should ever care about your opinions.

>>718647093
You can trade items the old way. Or you can list items in a tab at a price you intend to sell for, and someone can buy it without you clicking on them in your hideout. It actually changes very little.

>>718647358
if you'll check his md5s you will see about ten billion posts per each image, all tl;dr, inane and/or deliberately obtuse
stop replying to avatarfags, I beg of you

*sharts*

>>718647093

its literally the same trading we have now, the only difference is that it removes the human interaction.

it will mean more playing the game instead of interrupting your mapping to go back for a trade every 10 min.

Shit early access game that aped your money and pulled support

>>718647361
>You can trade items the old way
No one is going to do that and the effect fast trade will have on the game is undeniable. A big part of actually having to go to someone to pick up your garbage is that it gave crappy items value, because you are inconveniencing the seller. Now those uniques that were worth 1 chaos orb that no one would answer you for one the trade site because your meager offering isn't worth exiting a map aren't even worth clicking on to pick up now. Its not that the koreans were "asleep", its simply that trades werent worth their time. Good lord this is stupid. People are so goddamn stupid.

>>718615960 (OP)
The endgame still seems like dogshit. Crafting still seems like dogshit. Some good changes and I'll probably play the next league, but the game is still overall worse than Poo1, which is pathetic, when they've spent so long and such a massive amount of resources on Poo2.

>>718621132
Poo2 still has the simplified skill tree and dumbed down crafting, so that new players can enjoy it. Maybe when they make the skill tree actually interesting, the game will be good. Right now, it's just too dumbed down, in an effort to prevent newcomers from making fatal mistakes in levelling, to be enjoyable for build making.

>>718647572
>pulled support
>thread about a huge upcoming update
Why do these threads attract so many retards.

>>718619412
Play HC. That won't be botted.

>>718647695
the crafting meta in poe 2 is virtually identical to poe 1, it's actually less new player friendly because you need to farm way more, you can't just spam alts for the exact mod you want.

>>718647695
this patch basically doubles the size of the skill tree

>>718647593
If the item wasn't worth the time to trade, why was it listed?

>>718647913
Because the poster you're replying to is retarded. If anything, cheap 1c uniques and bases will be traded more with async trade. Since most of them will sell fast and as a seller, you don't need to do anything except dump them in a tab.

>>718647805
Lol, no it isn't. The strength of a crafting system is tested in SSF and Poo2 is attrocious in that regard. It lacks the multitude of systems working in unison, allowing for different choices at different times.

Metacrafting, for example, is the defining feature of Poo1, as it allows locking either prefixes or suffixes, allowing development of items in steps. There's no such comparison in Poo2.

>>718647913
Because premium tabs have an autopricing feature and players often have a 1c "garbage tab" they throw junk in. You ever make a trade and there's like 3 people in the group already? When you get good at the game you CONSTANTLY get messages for trade, so when you step out of a portal you just mass invite everyone.

>>718648037
You don't play the game. Uniques aren't going to even be worth a shard now. It's gunna to be like last epoch where anything that isn't tippy top end game gear is given away for literally for free for its asinine social credit system, except there is no social credit in this game. Yet. It's going to absolutely devalue everything and completely bottleneck the economy.

>>718648059
>There's no such comparison in Poo2.
you know metacrafting exists in poe 2 right? you aren't THAT retarded......

>>718647805
NTA but I dislike how annoying it is to hobble together decent items during the campaign without the bench, essences, or vendor recipes from PoE1. One of my greatest joys of that game was going through the campaign on leaguestart day and feeling clever because my character is staying ahead of the gear curve by applying all the different ways of procuring decent items from basically nothing

then you play PoE2 which is supposed to be the more streamlined game and your best option is to 10:1 rares for a single fucking regal orb to create a three-mod item with a 99% chance of being fucking terrible anyway. This is old news by now but I was utterly gobsmacked at the niggers who were unironically making the argument that Ziz's famously shitty leaguestart in 0.2 would have been fixed if he had one extra regal orb every three fucking hours, and this argument turned into some kind of widely agreed-upon truth amongst retards

>>718648356
In omens, but that is too rare and too expensive to be of any meaning. Metacrafting costs 2 div in Poo1, accessible very quickly and painlessly. This isn't true for Poo2.

>>718648259
>I want 1c but I won't trade it to you until it is convenient for me, meaning you will whisper ~10 people at this price until you catch one of us at the right time
or
>I want 1c for this item, you will attempt to "secure" this item from no more than 2 people at this price if you somehow click the first listing at the same time as another player
Both the buyer and seller are experiencing a greater quality of trade in this system. If you're not defending the idea of price-fixing/haggling then it has no downside. I appreciate markets and emergent gameplay so I don't completely discredit those aspects, but if you are genuinely arguing for the importance of inconvenience in how it relates to item value, I don't really see it.

>>718648562
>muh ssf!
>actually it's too expensive
uh huh? some crafting materials are rare, you use them where it makes sense to use them.
you aren't playing ssf in poe 1 and using 1 of the 2 reflecting mists you found that league on a random ring.

>>718648259
>You don't play the game
Seems like you don't play the game avatarfaggot. Right now, in POE1, I simply filter out anything that's less than, idk, 10c because none of that shit is worth the hassle it would take to sell it. With async trade I'd absolutely pick it up and dump it all into a 1c tab.

>>718648716
Expensive means required effort to get. Sad that you are too retarded to understand this.
>you aren't playing ssf in poe 1 and using 1 of the 2 reflecting mists you found that league on a random ring.
Dumb comparison. reflecting mists are for mirror crafting. Metacrafting is supposed to be for regular crafting. Outside of league start first days, you aren't crafting without metacrafting. This isn't the case in Poo2.

>>718647737
Because Jonathan is here.

>>718648862
it's not a dumb comparison because extremely rare crafting materials aren't meant to be spammed. you aren't using a dozen veiled exalts, you aren't even using that many n-word morgans.
metacrafting isn't for 'regular' crafting whatever that means, it is expensive and very specific and you aren't unlocking half of them until you find the rare unique maps that unlock them.
assuming you are still larping as an ssf player.

>PAYING to play an early access game that won't be finished for years
no thanks

>>718648678
>Both the buyer and seller are experiencing a greater quality of trade in this system.
The resistance in trade is what gives the item value. It's not about QoL. Economies don't work like that, especially not virtual ones. Your view of how the world works does not reflect reality.

Now the value of a unique will be
1) what it can be gambled into
2) the astronomical odds of that gamble versus the cost of doing it

And third worlders and bots will do that that until the price adjusts appropriately. You don't know how the game works.

>>718616767
Mathil? When is that guy NOT winning? His entire life is one big W.

>>718648742
>With async trade I'd absolutely pick it up and dump it all into a 1c tab.
No you won't. Why would you pick up a 6 inventory slot item worth 1c? To put it into a tab where it won't even be worth 1c anymore and people will be undercutting you? Might as well just vendor it at that point. This is such a stupid argument.

>>718649191
i think it will mostly be very expensive items and very cheap items. selling 500d items can take awhile and selling 10c junk isn't worth the effort.

>>718649437
It absolutely will be. Just like in diablo 4 and last epoch with how the economy is completely broken and borderline unusable because the same exact thing happened.

>>718649191
Your evaluation is no different from the way it works in PoE1. Without async trade the floor is marginally higher (1c on day 1, 5c on day 3 maximum, then any price in between as only noobs/poorfags will take the time to still trade this item). With async trade it will constantly float around 1-5c as noobs/poorfags are the only people bothering with listing this in a tab as marketgeniuses like yourself have moved on to quality'd uniques and bases that are "worth gambling". It really changes nothing because poors have always facilitated the worthless trades with one-another and marketniggers have always gravitated to big sellers asap.

>>718649595
>poorfags will take the time to still trade this item). With async trade it will constantly float around 1-5c
It won't though, there's no way a unique will stay at 1c, and all entry level rares/hand-me-downs will completely bottom out. It will utterly destroy progression and create enormous wealth gaps.

>>718649561
isn't trade in d4 worse than poe? like you need to list on a website, friend them, invite them, meet them, trade them. or did they add an ah at some point?

>>718649337
Based mathil. Truly a gigachad

>>718649697
>It will utterly destroy progression and create enormous wealth gaps.
Now who sounds like they haven't played the game

>>718649904
There is plenty of mobility in the game as is. I've stepped in mid-season in the most degenerate leagues imaginable and easily cleared end-game. Divs generally average out at 160c and comfortably sit there.

So did they fix the game?

>>718649837
D4 economy is absolutely fucked because its fueled by gold, which is an infinite resource. So items either aren't for sale or cost 35 billion gold. Like I can guarantee you right now if you go to the trade site most items will be sold for literally billions of gold.

>>718650259
thats a different problem, someone isn't going to go through the effort of listing an item for a few mil gold when they could farm double that in half the time.
it's like trade in poe now, people fill tabs with 1-5c trash and then a few days later they are farming 1-5d a map. they are just too lazy to unlist the tabs so they ignore the trade.

>they fixed everything guys, you have to trust me
>patch releases
>leddit and /poeg/ sing praises
>3 days after patch release
>cracks are starting to appear again
>games us dogshit again
some people just don't learn....

>>718615960 (OP)
Retard.

>>718650578
Bretty much described every PoE 1 league.

>>718650473
>thats a different problem, someone isn't going to go through the effort of listing an item for a few mil gold when they could farm double that in half the time.
But that's exactly the problem poe is going to have now.
>it's like trade in poe now, people fill tabs with 1-5c trash and then a few days later they are farming 1-5d a map
But you can still buy the item, you just need to go to page 2 in trade or personally message someone and offer 5c instead if you really need it. Its chump change anyways. Newfags don't realize when they are buying these cheap items they are literally digging around in someone's dumpster. They cannot possibly comprehend how poor they are. This is part of the magic of PoE. (and now all that is gone)

>>718649395
Who said anything about a 6slot item? Strawman harder retard

>>718650865
So you're never going to pick up a unique chest piece again? Sounds like you don't have an argument then. At high level play your inventory is either going to be flooded with bubblegum or bases.

>>718650708
>But that's exactly the problem poe is going to have now.
it's not because once it is in the tab they will either ignore it until it sells or manually delist it/vendor it.
like i have a handful of day 1-2 tabs for ~5c items, after a few days i just delist them, i rarely take the shit out and vendor it. now i will just ignore it and if someone buys it they buy it, if not it can go live in standard after the league merges.

Is the game actually fun yet or is it still a stick a toothpick under your toenail and kick a wall simulator?

>>718622502
well, yes, otherwise why bother?

>>718650970
>it's not because once it is in the tab they will either ignore it until it sells
As I have repeatedly said, these items are not going to even be worth 1c any more. That's the problem. So its not even worth having them as a placeholder in your inventory if you don't fill it while mapping. Without the resistance of manual trade the cost of items will lower. There's no floor for what an item is worth now.

Some of the fun interactions in PoE is literally digging into your trash can and throwing a piece of garbage at some dumb redditor that's going to make his character 10x stronger. Those kind of interactions with people are absolutely hilarious to me and its stuff like that makes the game really cool. Now I can't do that.

Every patch I'm getting so close to unfollow all PoE content guys and this time I did.
They are just so obnoxious in their desperate hype, because the game is their job, its retarded.

>>718638936
How could you just say that?

>>718651224
there are 2 floors.
1: the sellers stash space.
2: the buyers gold cost.
you also have roll variance, it's a buyers market so they will pick the 1alch or 1c item with better rolls over the 1trans item with min rolls.

>>718651331

>builds that skyrocket the price of all items in said build
>builds that are retardedly OP so all streamers and people who watch them play it so they don't want to nerf it till end of league
>balancing the game around people who legit are paid to play the game 24/7 so they make the low end of builds are unplayable and good only with high currency
>streamers playing in groups making more currency in a couple of weeks at start of league than you have likely have had since installing the game
>ggg sucks all their dicks and makes gameplay choices around them

Streamers are legit worst thing for POE

>>718644221
>meanwhile D4 doesn't even have an official trade site, nevermind auction house, and people fucking post WTS/WTB in global
At least do a cursory research before you shitpost.

>>718616262
>This fucking massive
brown esl jeet

>>718651635
>the sellers stash space.
I think items will be priced to sell so fast it won't be something to consider.
>the buyers gold cost
GGG has repeatedly said they would do this but gold cost continues to be so low its basically not a thing. It's more like a panic band-aid they can arbitrarily slap on currency that are shifting hands too quickly. You can watch in real time on the currency exchange in the middle of the night as russians buy up thousands of items in an attempt to fuck up the market.

>>718615960 (OP)
Offline trading and sprinting alone would make this a 10/10 patch, the rest is just the sprinkles

>>718616938
>New patch is giant W across the board
>game is still nowhere near close the release after 6 years and 9 months

>>718615960 (OP)
>People are unironically falling for the "It's just Early Access!" scam
Pricetag on storefront = release.

>>718651880
the gold cost is based on rarity and affix tier.
the floor will be the floor, there is already an endless sea of shit on trade either ~1c or not even priced. the only difference will be you can actually buy that shit now if you want it.

>>718649191
>muh friction
go to bed chris

>>718615960 (OP)
sirs we winned the won bigly

>>718652008
Who cares, they're actually updating the game unlike nearly every other Early Access game.
They have added more content in 8 months than Valheim has added in 5 years.

>>718652037
>the gold cost is based on rarity and affix tier.
But that's already been proven to be trivial in 3.25 when people were buying up "high value" uniques en masse to turn into glue.

>>718652063
chris wilson did nothing wrong and this announcement seriously bummed me out. i am seriously not playing the game any more and I hid it on steam so i dont have to see news updates.

>>718652141
and you are completely retarded.
no more (you)s, was fun tho.

>>718652185
Sure thing bud, see you on launch day

>>718652246
>get proven wrong
>y-you're retarded!
Bye bye, enjoy your shit casual game, don't want to hear you saying your better than anything else because its worse than even gacha now.

>>718615960 (OP)
>Async trading
MAKE AN AUCTION HOUSE YOU FUCKS
I know this is still a step in the right direction but I will remain mad until they do

>>718650708
This is the part brainlets don't understand, that the issues synchronous trade have are entirely self-inflicted by players not understanding the actual price of an item. Third worlder monkey brains simply can't comprehend that the price at which items sell is not by what its cheapest or even most populated listing price is, but by what actually moves off the market into player hands. The trade site has literally everything a player could need to see the prices at which items actually move like live search and sort by recency and yet don't realise that asynchronous trading in the form of self-managed stalls will at best not fundamentally change this part of the equation while introducing potentially extreme market scenarios for other types of items. In reality I'm gonna be laughing at every sub-20th percentile player when they realise asynchronous trading makes their commodities cheaper and the scarce goods of the giga juicers more expensive. But hey, at least you don't have to learn how to use the trade site properly!

>>718652267
I'm unironically not gunna play. Just gunna continue playing factorio and 1cc some shmups.

>>718652481
>MAKE AN AUCTION HOUSE YOU FUCKS
What's the difference?

>>718652675
He won't be satisfied until the game literally plays itself. ARPG players are literally retarded.

>>718652141
Buying items on trade didn't have a gold cost in 3.25.

>>718652675
I don't want to use an external website when I'm playing the game, it should all be streamlined in game ideally

>>718652825
Wasn't there a cost for slotting it into the glue machine or something

I will not pay for your game. The genre has been tapped for years, anyone dumb enough to keep consuming should be put down.

>>718652869
What does that have to do with asynchronistic trade?

>>718652869
...Yes.

>>718652865
They said they're putting the trade site into the game, it just wasn't ready for this patch.

>>718652982
People were buying loads of uniques purely to melt them down at a gold cost, pretty much nonstop, and gold did nothing to hinder that.

>>718653005
They fucking better

>>718653045
or what? gunna go back to d4?

Isn't Poop2 dead?

It's out the 29th? I really wanna do this fist build Monk. I fucking love killing shit with my fists. I haven't touched the game in awhile

>>718653116
cry harder diablo zoomer

>>718653025
The gold cost was for the disenchanters and it is a static cost, nothing to do with trade.
People buy T1-T0 items because they give the most dust.

>>718653112
Ooooof. Less than 1%? That's fucked

>>718653150
>The gold cost was for the disenchanters and it is a static cost
It scaled with the tier of the item and the enormous gold cost did absolutely nothing to stop or even slow people from maximizing a resource they didn't even need.

>>718653138
>zoomer
the only reason this patch was well received is because they're adding sprint and trade. You lost, unc. time to go to bed or kill yourself

>>718653256
cry harder diablo zoomer

>>718653075
Or I'm going to stay mad as promised

>>718653284
Good, go play a real video game instead of an interactive screensaver

brown thirdie troon game

>4 month for each new patch
>if everything goes perfectly and they release one new act and several new classes every patch from now on, it's at least 8 months left for the full release

>>718653315
Fine. I will go have fun in a videogame and I will do it ANGRILY

>>718615960 (OP)
It looks really good.
HOWEVER
Having to wait for so long for new content is unacceptable.

>>718653226
The gold cost is the same for every item you disenchant. There is a difference in time it takes to disenchant items but that is based on the item level.

>>718653489
>The gold cost is the same for every item you disenchant
No it was way higher for the t0 items. I know because I did it and retards on YouTube were making guides on how to farm gold in t17s and shit

>>718653525
Oh really? That's crazy bro. I tried that strat but I got stuck on the ember map boss.

>>718637121
>Evasion is the weakest of the three defences
I'm not even a hardcore player and didn't even kill arbiter, but even I know it's almost as good as ES, and pretty much all classes build Evasion/ES.

>>718653281
W patch to make unc mad. Nice boomer vision getting erased KEKEK

>>718652126
Bitch please, they STILL don't have clear roadmap, thing that even the shittiest early access slop put up to give a semblance of working on the game.
>they're actually updating the game
That the least you would expect from them but they keep boating the game with features and league mechanic from Poe 1 instead of adding more classes and weapon and they treat major updates like leagues so who knows how long this shit show will go on
>unlike nearly every other Early Access game.
Nah they're actually among the worst
>They have added more content in 8 months
In 8 months they added 1 new class, one new weapons with few new skills, support gems(who were mostly shit until now), 3 missing ascendancy and a new act, get real

>>718621061
>all of this shit just because they couldn't be bothered to add claws and add a martial artist for some mocap
I will eternally seethe at this, quarterstaff monk is suck a fucking monkey paw, you get what you asked for but not what you wanted

>>718615960 (OP)
>Promise to release the game from early access within 6-12 months with all classes and acts complete
>Close to 9 months after release, we're still at 7 classes and 4 acts
It's gonna be in EA for another year, won't it?

>>718653986
go compare poe 2 0.1, 0.2 and 0.3 to the content every other arpg got/gets.

>>718653986
Bro the druid is 99% finished bro just a few more content patches bro

>>718654236
They never promised anything.

Jonatroon buy an ad

>>718654448
You lost

>>718654448
it costs 17 cents for them to bump these threads, compare that to reddit where it costs 40 cents. just good business.

aside from the offline trade, nothing felt exciting enough to slog through a now even fucking longer campaign and this continued mindset of friction must always be in everything fucking ruins everything. They have answers to 90% of the problems that are in POE2 already in POE1, all they have to do is port it over, instead they continue to throw all that out the window and insist on starting over, claim its better, double down, triple down, finally accept poe1 did it better and take it from there 6-12 months later.

>movespeed problem, everything feels too slow
>solution: raise base movespeed by 20-50%
actual implementation: SPRINT, oh btw if a monster farts in your direction you fall over for twelve days and die

>lack of build diversity
>solution: balance shit if its broken asap
>actual implementation: lawl a whole leage of lightning spear is ok

>combos! we want people to play the way we want! more combos!
>solution: give people incentives either by clear or power or both to actually use them
>actual implementation: lets take half of a skill and tac it onto another so you can only get the full effect if you use both

you know what fuck it, poe2 needs another two or more years of development and content to even be worth given the time to critique. you guys enjoy the unpaid slavery alpha testing, ill wait two months for the next poe1 league

>>718624703
They made a bunch of shit more like PoE1, added Act 4 and added rehashed parts of Acts 1-3 instead of reusing Acts 1-3.
Considering Act 4 was shown off in public a year or two ago this is still just them very slowly replacing the sheets after shitting the bed.

>>718654854
>They made a bunch of shit more like PoE1
such as?

>>718615960 (OP)
is it really fixed? all I heard was that it was fixed but I'm not sure what changed that everyone is celebrating

>>718655015
NTA but did you watch the video? I mean the most obvious fucking reversion was to how affixes modify iiq/iir on maps. Mark even admitted it was shit and poe1 did it better

>>718615960 (OP)
>No new class
>No new ascendancies
>No xp on death removal
>no loot rework
>no AH
>80% of will never be used
>yada yada yada
>league and supporter pack during EA


Ahahahaha
DOOMGODS HAVE WON

>>718655256
>Mark even admitted it was shit and poe1 did it better
Lost count of how many times this has happened, I think we know what the problem with poe2 is

>>718619216
yeah but without price fixing this will be easier now no?

Diablo IV is better and it's an actual complete product. I have no idea how much of a cucksucker you have to be to pay for EA of a rollslop garbage game

>>718619216
ill take awakened trade for 100 alex

>pushing these two buttons instantly estimates the price for an item and has web links to double check

>>718655192
People who genuinely do not understand the core problems with the game will latch on to the hype and "buffs" in a livestream, then claim it's fixed.

New shiny toys for different builds are cool, but they dont solve all the bottlenecks and build drifts (gem change will definitely help this patch). About the biggest change that probably went over the head of newfags and casuals is the changes to armor and the addition of deflect, but even with this I think it's not enough to save the abysmal state armor is in.

>>718655392
>Diablo IV is better and it's an actual complete product.
>doesnt have diablo in it after all this time
>complete

>>718655318
The problem was they wanted their cake and eat it too. They need to either say fuck it and just make poe1.5 or actually make a proper top down roll slop for d1 boomers. Judging by the new patch they choose the former, but at least they did fucking chose something after 8 months of no direction.

>>718655256
>we wanted to try something new but we didn't like it
i don't think i would call that a bunch. i guess sprint is like poe 1, so 2 things? could already have more than 1 version of the same support in 0.1 with ascendancy/item.

>>718654078
I never thought I'd say this but I miss d3

>>718616062
Bro cutedog is a super wholesome positive guy who has always been team poe2!

>>718655438
EA
6 years
Still in CH4

>>718655610
>fellow gundam enjoyer
fuck this arpg nonsense, wheres our game at

>>718655610
game is in early access and it has more classes than d4, more subclasses(they don't exist in d4), more builds, more content, more endgame, more bosses.
aside from that you are correct.

>>718655740
i've never played D4 so i wouldn't know

>>718655512
Either this is bad bait or you're genuinely retarded. Go watch the video again and take notes with your crayons and helmet on. Better yet, look at the direction the game was headed toward and how it was advertised in the 0.2.0 livestream, and compare to the chaotic and frantic clips shown for 0.3.0. One is a lot closer to the power fantasy of poe1, if you're observant enough

>>718621061
bruh thats like 50% more attack speed. MORE.

>>718655771
they literally said BEFORE the early access even launched that the endgame would be zoomzoom by launch. the original pitch for poe2 back when it was still poe 4.0 was 2 campaigns 1 endgame.
or hey go look at temporalis builds in 0.1 if you want to see some frantic chaos lmao

I'm so tired of staring at a website and a 3rd party app for hours instead of blasting maps. Just put it all in the game and be done with it

>>718655771
this was poe 2 in 0.1
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bpK10cnrErU

>>718654641

You forgot the well. Poe2 will only be playable once the well is removed from the game. Until then, it can fuck right off

>>718655969
amen, going to town in the middle of a map to refill your flasks is retarded.

I literally despise that troonimai retard avatar faggot nigger. Always avatarfagging on /v/ with his retarded opinions, like the shitskin gorilla that he is.
Seriously, complaining about async trade you fucking mongoloid? Right now, in PoE1, even PoE2, I can get a cheap unique, in the ballpark of 1-5c and the END result is functionally IDENTICAL. Only the current situation is a WASTE OF TIME.
>filter maximum price : 5chaos
>sort by recently listed
>spam 20 niggerfaggots for the item
>take the first invite, ignore the rest, if they dare bother me with an ingame message: theyre blocked
>enter some random niggers hideout
>right click trade
>get the item

Thats fucking it.
Thats the dogshit system you will STILL HAVE, god forbid you LOVE leaving your maps for 5 fucking chaos. Fuck your retarded ass. I've been doing this dogshit system since fucking poe.trade (before your tranny ass was born), and I've done countless actual CLASSIC TRADE forum trades. It's all inane mindless drivel of a bygone era. Grow the fuck up faggot.
>MUH LIQUIDITY WILL DRY UP
No it will not you mouthbreathing shitskin.
High liquidity and valuable items will STILL get listed on non-Merchant tabs; but I doubt you even have two braincells to comprehend why. Ironically enough, Merchant tab async trades will only really be ideal for low-mid tier trash, or odd, below-average liquidity.
>ABLOO PEOPLE WILL FILTER 1c TRASH GARBAGE O-O-OR WONT EVEN LIST THEM
like 99% of trade league already does one week in? Fucking brainlet nigger can't understand how markets work. I would curb stomp you tranny.

>>718654641
poe1 is ass

>>718618913
>game is now heavily p2w
HOLY BASED!

>>718656557
well it is paid early access and you get 300 points with the key so you can buy a tab.
you can still manually list shit on the forum if you are ethical when it launches f2p.

>>718656557
>now
????
Day 1 mageblood in PoE isn't p2w? GGG was always pro-RMT company, you pay - you win

>Just got a free key from /vg/
I think I like PoE 2 now

>no new class
i guess i could play huntress since i skipped the underwhelwing 0.2
meh
we'll see if nothing else grabs my attention at that time (also enjoy not bein able to play for the first 3 days because of the free to play shitting up the queue)

>>718615960 (OP)
Is it free yet?

>>718652008
When it's released it will be free so does that mean it will be in early access in 6-12 months???

>>718656794
it was for >>718656730

>>718656846
No, but.
https://www.pathofexile2.com/freeweekend

>>718615960 (OP)
I just watched it, and what the FUCK is this? They NEVER say buff, they always say rework. This is unprecedented. These must be actual, genuine buffs.

>>718656389
oi easy on my waifu

>>718655395
>ill take awakened trade for 100 alex
does it work for poe2 as well?

>>718657371
>Actually nerfed Smith of Kitava
Lmao

>>718657431
it's called ''exiled exchange 2''

>>718651331
>They are just so obnoxious in their desperate hype, because the game is their job, its retarded.

that's every influencer retard, why would you follow them?

The patch is well and good, but when are they releasing the Templar? I want to play the mace/flail & shield magic-melee class.

>>718657935
Mid-2027

>>718657371
PoE 2 made for new players, most QoL's you see precisely because of them, as such you need to use language new players understand, like - buff

>>718657935
not until next year whenever, druid was supposed to be come with this patch

>>718658335
It's funny how they said that the Druid was 99% ready for early access but they couldn't finish him in time for 0.2 and now couldn't do it for 0.3.

What do you even do in this game. You just click on shit mindlessly in ai generated maps

>>718658410
I swear that trailer where they showed e very class was basically them rushing to have at least a single animation for each so they can say they're actually "almost ready" like how they said the campaign was

>>718658238
if it's made for new players why are so many oldfags getting filtered?

>>718658501
all of them are likely in some sort of amorphous relatively playable state given that there's base item types for all the missing weapons and whatnot in the game files, that is to say they're in development :^)

realistically, when do you think this game will actually release with all the classes?

>>718658989
2029

>>718658989
"1.0" will launch with classes missing

>>718658864
What pisses me off is that in all the lead up videos and interviews before the beta they kept giving this idea that the game was like 90% done and they were just making sure that there were no bugs, when it reality it was more like 40% of the game was done and they're working overtime to keep to a schedule

>>718659047
No, they were right, it was supposed to be all you get but initial feedback threw them into development hell because everything what was "ready" turns out to be shit and need to re remade, they aren't releasing classes because they are busy remaking fundamentals now, things they thought already set in stone.

>all those good things are BAD!!
>all those bad things were GOOD!!
>they should do new things, not old things
>those new things SUCK!!! They should do better new things!
You fucks are insufferable, the contrarian king has nothing on you.

Haven't followed this game for ages. I'm guessing this patch is "good" because they caved and made the game more like PoE1 (mindless digital slot machine and dopamine pump)?

>>718659567
Yes, they made it more like a proper ARPG.

Didn't follow this at all and have no clue what the patch includes, is the game good now?
Does the gameplay actually feel quick and smooth instead of sluggish and rollspam?

>>718659607
Yeah makes sense. Proper ARPGs are mindless digital slot machines and dopamine pumps