Thread 718819295

Here's your PC port bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD5fiMD7c18

>>718819295 (OP)
>1080 DLSS4
>36fps
Tim Sweeney you fucking asshole

>>718819295 (OP)
>implying modders wont fix performance issues day one
typical /v/ ue5 preliminary hissy fit, nothing new here
now show the ps5 video where the ps5 pro version actually runs worse than the base ps5 so we can laugh at poor subhumans who still use consoles in 2025

>>718819573
why are you defending this hack job? That's 1080p with dlss ON.

>>718819637
not my fault stating the obvious somehow hurts the gay prerelease hysteria you faggots always engage in no matter what the game is just like stellar blade weeks before it released, and on and on
its konami and ue5, literally nobody thought this was going to be some miracle of performance
>claiming im defending anything after i encouraged OP to post the ps5 version to mock
peak /v/ reading comprehension
very brown of you

hopefully no drm so we all can pirate this shit, doubt it though lol

The game has a fucking 60FPS cap HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

4060 is a reaaaaaaly shit gpu need 4070s or above.

>>718819295 (OP)
>4060

>>718820990
Remember when people praised MGS V's PC port for having a 60 fps cap like that was a good thing? Because I remember that. That was weird shit.

LMAO PCFAGS HAVE TO-

>>718821134
MGS V works on ps3 and xbox360 it is an impressive engine, better than unreal jeet engine

>>718819295 (OP)
Why is literally every single game like this? What's the point in upgrading if performance never improves?

>>718819295 (OP)
Everyone who participates in this thread has already seen the DF video on console performance. You already knew how it would run on pc.

>>718819295 (OP)
>4060
cool ill enjoy getting 240fps at 4k with my 5080 and framegen ;)

>>718821050
Brother at 1080p your mother's asshole should be renderable at real time frames.

>>718821407
>framegen

>>718821289
You really want to be 2x the consoles (so for the base ps5 that's anywhere from like a 3080to3090ish in raster depending on the game assuming no up-scaling)
Most games have a performance mode but it's always shit, the settings you want will be 30fps on console.

the 4060 might be the worst gpu of the past 5-ish years tho
and I'm fucking tired of these everything at max settings performance videos, you turn shadows and post-processing down by 1 setting and see a 20% uplift

>>718821535
aww did mommy not get you a 50 series?? theres always christmas big guy!

>>718821183
>ps5 pro can't keep 1080p
ue5 was a mistake

>>718821621
you can run framegen on 40 series cards as well anon you have even less of an excuse to use it if you have a 5080

>>718821601
that's 36fps with framegen on though.

>>718821204
And it looked much better

>>718821601
The 4060 is a powerhouse, it's just the Unreal 5 menace coupled with the jeets that develop games on it that's the problem.

>>718819295 (OP)
oh no no no

>>718822075
>The 4060 is a powerhouse

>>718819573
Modders have literally never, not once, "fixed" the performance of UE5 games. Unless you mean "found ways to turn off literally everything for potato mode"

the fact that this thread has attracted tourist faggots posting facebook boomer tier memes says a lot about the type of poster who engages in these circlejerks

>>718819295 (OP)
>4060, 1080p w/ dlss quality, 36 FPS
>this means you need a 4080 bare minimum for 60FPS 1080p, probably with DLSS
This might actually be the worst port I've seen yet unless this image is fake. Which I get the feeling it isn't. This game is gonna get reviewbombed hard

>>718819295 (OP)
>opinion discarded
retard can't even land a clean headshot with m+kb makes me wonder what other retarded settings he might have

>>718822987
why is his hand so big

>>718823042
yaoi hands

>>718821669
>it is 2013, the playstation 4 and xbox one are revealed to be the next generation of consoles with both having the capability to hit HD resolutions within games
>months later it is found out games run at a lower native resolution to keep stable frame rates...
>it is 2025...

>>718819295 (OP)
>36fps on an RTX 4060
runs like trash and the visuals are AI slop too. All that terrible performance & AI shit wasted just to render this abysmal fuzzy artifacty mess.
Start refunding this badly made shit. melting you GPU to just render something that looks THIS BAD. is inexcusable.

>>718819295 (OP)
For a fucking ps2 game

5060 benchmarks are up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DquuBOV44qc

>>718821134
>MGS V's PC port for having a 60 fps cap
I literally refuse to buy it on pc solely for this reason

>>718819928
Again, why are you defending this?

>1080p
>DLSS: ON

I would fucking hope UE5 runs 1080p without DLSS just fine. Why the FUCK can't it? This isn't memeK, there is no need to frame-gen.

>>718823383
this nigger really cannot read holy shit

>>718823383
Why are you defending it when 1080p with DLSS on should be running much better than that? I swear, you UE5 shills need to go back.

>>718819295 (OP)
at 1080p!?

why didnt they just do it on fox engine

>>718823383
>Again, why are you defending this?

>>718823619
almost everyone who knew how it worked left with kojima + this was outsourced

>>718823641
>Unreal Engine 5
Do I EVEN have to say it /v/?

>>718819295 (OP)
>4060

okay shitskin

>>718823796
based unreal anti-shill

>>718819295 (OP)
i hope all of these piles of shit running ue5 have serious long term consequences for sweeny's AIDS ridden asshole

I am NEVER, EVER buying a ue5 game again

You could make god's gift to mankind and Unreal Engine will still cripple it. Not for comparison's sake, I dunno how this "remake" (aka copypaste the Master Collection code and then put new stuff on top) actually fares on its own besides good review scores, but the point stands.

>60 fps cap
>no ultrawide
>need dlss at 1080p to run at 60 even on brand new hardware
what in the fuck? have konami lost their minds? how is this even possible with the loading screens and how small areas are? what in the god damn?

>>718824183
Dare I ask what the install size is?

>>718824224
Over 100GB kek, you made me check. Fuck you

Stalker 2 still runs like shit to this day and looks like shit, this game is going to suffer the same shit

>>718819573
>>implying modders wont fix performance issues day one
you mean post up placebo ini files which more likely break parts of the game day one

It's astounding what they are charging for an extremely lacklustre remake.

>>718819295 (OP)
Where do these retarded shills come from?
>4060 an extremely weak card
no a GTX 970 is an extremely weak card and that can still perfectly run many better looking games than this shit such as RE engine ones like DMC5.

>>718824379
Yea even if this ran perfectly this is a $40-50 game at most. 70 for this is an absurd ask, it's going to sell like shit.

>>718824183
Unreal Engine. Thats the answer to most of modern gaming woes.
>games havent really improved in quality
>we still need to buy the latest hardware to keep up with "modern gaming"
My tinfoil hat theory is that Unreal and the hardware companies are working together on this

>>718824367
>placebo ini files which more likely break parts of the game day one
Ah an ultra+ user I see

>>718824296
i don't usually take Steam space sizes as the straight up fact of exactly how much space is needed, but it really is fucked
>Subsistence Disc 1 on PS2: 4.5GB
>required space for MGS3 on the MC: roughly 15GB because they bloated it with shit upscale textures
>MGS Delta remake that uses MC beneath it: roughly 100GB because muh HD assets and UE effects
shit got really fucking out of hand fast

>>718824482
Never underestimate incompetence. Unreal 5 can easily be tweaked for performance. But useless devs just use it straight out of the box.

It feels like a single game engine is holding the entire industry back for the past 5 years with no signs of stopping.

>>718819295 (OP)
Its not devs fault. They aren't given time to optimize. Wheres the money in optimizing when your promotional material is gonna showcase the game at its best anyway?

>>718824557
show me a ue4 game that runs half as poorly as the most optimized ue5 game you can find

Is there a demo or benchmark somewhere?

>>718824557
Even with simple scenes and nanite and lumen disabled (these absolutely tank performance even if you have no lumen and nanite objs in the scene) UE5 is still about 35%+ slower than UE4.

>>718824890
why you think there is no benchmark/demo in the first place ?

>>718819295 (OP)
>ultra settings
pc niggers are so retarded

>>718824954
so is that a no?

>>718822075
It's not, 4060 is a big piece of shit. Nvidia got tired of people buying xx60 cards so they gimped it.

>>718819295 (OP)
Ultra settings are probably pretty demanding. It will hit 60fps on High with some things on Medium which is more similar to PS5 settings.

>>718825159
anon it's fucking 1080 with dlss4 turned on

>>718825119
>>718824448 is right
4060 is more than enough to render a game that looks this bad.. if the engine wasn't pure sludge.

>>718821183
God I’m glad to be on consoles still, I can’t imagine spending $700 bucks and you still can’t get the bitch to cap out at 60, I’m genuinely scared to get an expensive PC and I’m happy just using my laptop for roms and school

>>718819295 (OP)
4060's are worse than 3060ti's btw

>>718822075
>The 4060 is a powerhouse
You can't be serious

>>718825291
it is. You're forgetting that there are 100s of High fidelity photo real games that can run on fucking laptops.

>>718825254
It's an UE game, you can easily uncap it.

>>718825207
Doesn't matter, high res shadows and volumetrics tank performance and 4060 isn't exactly a bandwidth king.

>ultra settings
>blurry diarrhea mess of dogshit
i'm so tired

>>718819295 (OP)
So this is the power of UE5

>>718825534
memory bandwidth is irrelevant if it's not vram capped. the 4060 is by no means a good card, but it needing DLSS performance to hit 60fps (it wouldn't even be stable 60 either) is crazy. you can extrapolate all kinds of performance numbers from that. a 4080 is like 75% better than a 4060. that means even a 4080 won't be capable of stable 60 at 1080p in this game without DLSS. absurd.

3060 performance
https://youtu.be/E48AIGjXkHE?si=FK868POwkakeDB9k

ship now, patch later
*patch never

poorfag cope general

>>718819573
modders aint fixing this lil bro
>1080p med
>cant even hold 60fps on a 5060

>>718825740
>>718824482

>>718819295 (OP)
>soulless UE aesthetic you've seen a thousand times

>>718825534
THAT doesn't matter.
This wasn't an issue for Days gone. a much better looking game on a heavily modified UE4 build.
it would run on much weaker cards and barely use more than half your GPU.

>>718819295 (OP)
where's the graphics? compare this with uncharted 4

>>718825740
I have a 5080 and I will be skipping this game you nigger shill.

>>718825836
I think there's some behind all that fuzzy blur and glicthyness.

Wonder how it runs on a 3080?

>>718819295 (OP)
This is why people bitched about nvidia tricking unsuspecting people with their name change. This is exactly the performance you'd expect out of a $125 4050.

>>718819573
you can't fix performance in ue5 with mods

4090bros how we feeling?

>>718825945
not so good
i sold my kidney to buy a powerhouse pc, now it can barely run new games

>>718825939
really faggot? you think this is a hardware issue?

5070, 1080p bros, seems like we're fine.

>>718825998
you'll feel better once I tell you this truth..
New games barely run.

>>718819295 (OP)
>medium setting with dlss
>vram usage is not even over 7 gigs
>dips below 60
peak modern gaming

>have 4k monitor
Well it looks like I'm not getting this game since no GPU on earth can run it at my resolution.

>>718826085
you bought a 5070 to play games at 1080p?

fucking

YIKES

>>718826160
and the foliage doesn't even move when you walk through it.

So what about that UE5 5.5.2? Update that supposedly fixes performance huh

>>718826167
soon you will need the most expensive gpu to run 720p upscaled

>>718826194
wait.. it does but barely and it looks bad.

>>718826194
Is that inherent to the game? Because I know that DLSS and other upscaler methods have a habit of fucking up the minor details like grass and trees.

>ue5 slop

i hate this engine so fucking much holy shittttttt

>>718826238
DLSS wouldn't break grass physics. A lot of games skip stuff like that due to CPU limitations on consoles.

Not even transformer model an fix this

>>718826167
4070/5070 is literally 60 tier cards charging 70 price now
notice how all those 70 cards has 12gb vram just like the 3060

>>718826238
no GPU AI scaling can't fuck with in-game physics.
it only fucks with foliage by fuzzing the edges more because UE5 is a piece of shit and renders the edges of foliage with jittery pixel grain to start with.

>>718826016
Nvidia knew this was coming and mislead people.

>>718825254
Or you know you could just not play shitty games with shitty performance. But hey, playing on a console is an option as well.

>>718826417
The consoles run this at 720p 40-50fps

>>718819573
So why doesn't your tech support tell devs to introduce these changes on release, Tim?
>>718824126
You see you'd think so but there's an issue. UE3 already had tons of issues but it didn't kill it. This shit won't die. We will get UE5/6/7 slop that will continue to get worse and worse simply because some games will continue making money, no matter how many studios collapse partially due to shit engine, the devs will reform other studios and find investors to make more games while the investors will look at the industry like they do on startups. They operate on a level too far removed from the on the ground "I sell product on the marketplace" kind of economy so they will never connect the dots.

we could have had this in foxengine

but nooooo

>console gamer threads - actually discuss the game and its gameplay
>PC "gamer" threads - AAAAAIIIIIIEEEE my shitty budget GPU can't hit 60 fps on maxed out graphical settings, IT"S OVER

>>718826535
The jeets they outsource to don't know how to use the fox engine

>>718826570
they shelved this beautiful engine because nobody knows how to use it
all the devs went with kojima

>>718826569
I mean console players can't even get a good 40 FPS in Performance, and the 30 FPS is paced horribly in Quality. Everybody loses.

>>718825757
>native 1080p

>>718826653
That's native now chud

>>718821601
They tested it with everything on low with shadows disabled entirely and even then the 4060 was hovering around 50 FPS most of the time.
UE5 sucks ass.

it still mog

BUT THEY SAID THE UNREAL ENGINES FIVER WAS THE BEST ENGYNE

>>718826757
I'm waiting for Unreal Engine 6.

WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO LOOK LIKE SHIT. IT'S MORE SHIT THAN SHIT FROM THE YEAR BEFORE. THE SHIT FROM A YEAR BEFORE IS WORSE THAN THE YEAR BEFORE THAT

>>718826886
Don't question it goy

>>718826167
Yeah, to to dab on you.
If I waited more, I could have gotten 9070XT for the same price.
Yeah, 5070 and 9070XT cost the same here in Japan.

*takes a deep dab of his pineapple ice vape*

i told you so

>>718825159
No, it can't even maintain 60 on low with shadows disabled entirely.
OP literally posted a video of the benchmark.

>>718826653
oh that's another thing.
Just like E33 your native is fake now too. it says it's 1080p but it's lying to you. You're actually upscaling from an even lower resolution.

LMAO

>>718821289
gaming industry has decided that any time performance headroom is achieved, the correct path is to immediately eat that space up with unnecessary visuals
stylized > photorealisitc, every time, no exceptions

https://youtu.be/BbxZNPw_rH8?t=11588

they fucked up the ladder scene

>>718825713
wow it runs even worse
the card itself simply couldn't keep up anymore, all those 12gb vram is useless

>>718821289

>why is literally every single UE5 game like this?*

fixed that for you

Remember that UE5 is goyslop for goys. Don't be a goy, goys. Be kosher like me, Chaim Goldfarb.

>>718827202
that's not true. it's not being upscaled secretly, you can pixel count it. the problem is the excessive dithering in ue5 making lots of fine details look bad like that

>>718827269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgaYe4ZYYyY

hahahah they fucked up so FUCKING bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wgH4szXiqU

they replaced donna burke completely

holy fucking shit this sounds bad

>>718827269
Blame them using the Delta version.
>>718827345
It's still Donna, she just redid the song. But its been nearly 21 years since MGS3, so her vocals simply aren't what they used to be.

>>718827269
Holy fucking ghosting when he goes outside after it

>>718827398
they could have just taken the original
but no

>>718827408
How many limbs do you want?

>>718827345
>they replaced donna burke completely
>holy fucking shit this sounds bad
kek it's literally the same woman ouch

>>718827458
her vocal range is absolutely shit though
the original song is iconic

>>718827408
>ghosting
THAT'S LUMEN BABY. MMMMMMMM TIMMY HOPES YOU LOVE YOUR UNREAL SLOP. OH YOU DON'T LIKE GHOSTING ON EVERYTHING IN MOTION? TOO BAD NIGGER EAT IT UP MMM MM SLOP YES

>>718827448
Everything that moves has 6 afterimages and this is on console with no frame gen

>>718819295 (OP)
I mean 4060 is a budget card, seems fine? At least it runs

>>718827521
>>718827448
Explains the absolutely horrible performance

maybe it's better on Xbox.

Reminder that Death Stranding 2 looks amazing on base PS5 hardware and runs at a stable 60fps.

Decima > UE5

>>718827345
The music is a lot less grand, james bond style, just some jazzy piano shit

What the fuck

>>718827542
No shit. Decima is probably the best engine out there right now. Too bad sony has it on lockdown

>>718819295 (OP)
>corridors
Why tho

>>718827537
While they haven't done an in-depth test on it yet, DF said the XSX version feels the same as PS5.

>unreal game
>bad performance
WOOOOOOOOOW WHO COULDVE FORSEEN THIS???

>>718825713
poor 3060 nigger is going to cope with their muh vram again

>>718827269
the original song was timed perfectly where if you didn't stop climbing it would end exactly when you reached the top. This new version fucks up the timing completely.

>>718819295 (OP)
I really hope Witcher 4 being developed on UE will fix some of the blatant issues with the engine, since they have Epic working alongside them.
But probably not lmao

>>718827675
LMAO
L M A O BRO

>>718827525
It's a budget card that launched at twice the price of what a budget card should be leaving you with just shit performance while not even being cheap to justify it.

Unreal Engine 5 was a mistake and the fact every single company out there is pushing this trash just because there enough people they can hire that can code there they actually can't reason why the optimization is garbage is just fucking sad

>>718827675
Because CDPR are known for releasing stable games on launch?

If my 1080 can't run it, it's not worth playing anyway.
This card is top of the line and has been for years. If devs don't want to put in any effort for optimization then they just lost millions of customers. Game looks like shit anyway.

>>718827707
good bait

>>718827525
budget but it should be stable 60fps at 1080p medium native
it dips below 60 even with dlss, this is madness
mgs3 is not even an open world game

>80 dollaridoos
>for an 8h game
>that got butchered to hell

Nah man just fucking. Nah.

Unreal Engine 3 btw

how is one engine nuking the industry? unreal was meant to be the easy path for making games, not the ultimate resource hog. not even cryengine had this much negative flak around it and it's more realism-driven. this is hilarious.

>>718819295 (OP)
Wasn't the original framerate of this game sub 30fps?
>4060 can't do 1080p on ULTRA LOOOOL
Then lower settings for silky smooth 60fps?

>>718827765
that looks like garbage, at least post mirror's edge with the kiddyhighlights turned off

>>718827809
It can't even hold 60 at low 1080p

>>718827812
i remember playing ME 1 back in the day
it looked so good
where did it all go so wrong

>>718827863
midwit devs are swapping out high resolution baked lighting for realtime raytracing and other advanced global illumination methods because in their minds, baked methods are either too time consuming or they don't look as good since they don't react to things moving. little do they know that it's orders of magnitude more performant to sample a texture than bounce dozens of rays per pixel lmao.

>>718827964
HOLY ALIASING

>>718827521
Ah, yes. Temporal Anti-Aliasing. The other bane of UE5.

Why Unreal engine 5 is so fucking shit? I don't remember anyone complaining about UE4, so what happened that made 5 so bad and can Unreal Engine 6 even be saved at this point?

UE5 is quite possibly the worst engine ever made, Jesus...

>>718828009
HOME

>>718827269
what's the issue? this is great. that's actually a recorded vocal solo, not just the vocal stem. that's actually a really nice detail.

>>718828024
the original song was timed perfectly where if you didn't stop climbing it would end exactly when you reached the top. This new version fucks up the timing completely besides sounding phoned in.

20 FUCKING 07

mogged by one person years ago

>>718827945
sounds like laziness to me

>>718828146
It absolutely is or just straight up incompetence

>>718828007
UE5 is a weird case where it presents so many options and opportunities for new functionality - and then enabled the laziest fucking shit humanly imaginable because it "looks pretty" by default. By all accounts, UE4 had some shit optimized games too (FF7 Rebirth just last year is a goddamn mess and even had missing effects on PC through sheer incompetence), UE5 can do great things AND not perform like butts, but everyone keeps taking these default options, tweaking the sliders, and then doing nothing to actually unfuck their code for optimization, because Epic didn't expect everyone to take the laziest route possible somehow.

Virtuos is rapidly becoming a style over substance remaster developer.

>>718819295 (OP)
it runs great on 1650 too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue7hV6X_kEU

>>718827945
>full cock tracing
>game doesn't have day/night cycle
what a thrill...

>>718828080
next time, they should bet on Cryengine.

>>718827945
Lumen (and IdTech making its own equivalent) was a goddamn mistake.

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>>718828191
So the engine just makes it easier for them to be lazy? Well that explains a lot why a lot of devs are adapting to UE5 in favor of a in house engine or some other option

>>718828306
sw bf1 looked so much better than 2

<= Hunting game made as a joke.

>>718827945
>RT is the future!
>almost a decade later still barely any games completely designed around the tech
at this point this raytracing crap is just excuse for jewvidia to sell more 2000$ gpu every year

I actually like DLSS but even with DLSS games barely even run. Why are they doing this? I feel bad for AMD users because FSR is legitimately dogshit. The framegen on AMD has horrible input delay it's not even useable.

>>718828283
fwiw it was meant to be a solution to some problems that lightmass had. lightmass is what's used in mirror's edge. it's what gives all its maps such a crisp, clean ass shadow gradient. the devs for it boosted its abilities in ue3, and i think a lot of them got adopted into ue4. but someone was like "none of this is dynamic i wish it was" and lumen was born from that train of thought.

>>718828306
not possible on current technology sorry

>>718822075
KEK i thought console fags were retarded too.

>>718819573
Name one (1) game where "modders fixed performance".
Unlocking a capped framerate doesn't count.
Cracking some fuckshit DRM out of it doesn't count either as no real optimization work on the rendering pipeline was being done.

>>718828389
are you...retarded? both of those work

>>718819295 (OP)
>4060
LMAO i always knew its the fucking brokie poorfags who cry about performance

>>718828367
to force you buy another nvidia gpu duh
theres a good reason why green card still top the steam hardware survey

>>718828191
What do these settings look like? Anything complex or is it as simple as how graphical options typically look on a PC game?

>>718828487
I have a 4070ti Super, the Talos remake doesn't even run at 60 FPS native in the forest areas

>>718822075
>>718822480
>>718825119
>>718825232
>>718828383
The 4060 IS a piece of shit... relative to all the other GPUs of it's same generation. However it SHOULD still be able to handle games at 1080p at 60fps. For a game to drop to 30fps, WITH DLSS is absolutely the fault of the game here and utterly inexcusable.

At the very, VERY least 30fps at ultra WITHOUT DLSS should be attainable. But I think 45-60fps should be in the cards based on what the raw power of the 4060 got... just not anything beyond that both framerate and resolution wise.

>>718828510
Most of them are just a toggle in the engine and it automagically handles everything

>>718826751
Wrong. Unreal 5 is amazing.

>>718828217
holy cinematic 20 fps

This is a man not the boss

>>718828319
A mix of that and literal university/college/online classes all focusing on Unity and UE as the forefront of teaching up-and-comers game development. Not sure if anything's experimented with Godot in there for the freebie, but probably not much at all. This is why 343 jumped ship alongside their rebrand to UE5; Microsoft contractor policies have an 18 month hiring period and you're out, and anyone working on shit like Halo Infinite had to learn the proprietary Blam! engine that had been used since Combat Evolved, figure out other people's weird shit and code on top, then got shuffled out by the time they got a grasp of anything for the next batch of new hires. Now? They can just grab starry eyed gullible lemmings straight from college into the workshop to throw at Unreal Engine 5 because everyone knows it already.

>>718828283
software lumen is actually really clever, it traces the screen, so first you use screen space reflections, and then when the mesh is off screen, lumen makes a low poly "blob" approximation of the mesh for reflections.

>>718828563
Why does her face look like a mans? lmfao

>>718828607
she has boobs though. makes my cock hard so doesnt matter

>>718819408
Kek

>>718828563
They were so lazy they just used the auto rigger in ue5 didn't they. It tends to do this and you have to manually tweak faces or everyone looks like a man

still in a dream

>>718828601
Yeah but it looks like shit with all the dis-occlusion artifacts, lingering lights and what not. I honestly think we should just stop trying to cheat real time ray tracing until the hardware is there even if that means waiting 'till the late 2030's

>>718828683
why is the dog flipping like that

>>718819295 (OP)
do you think the retards at konami include graphics options that let you turn lumen off like say in wuchang?
that shit increased performance drastically while the game looked the same, just without weird boiling in vegetation lmao

>>718828759
The funny thing is there is hardware lumen as well, and PS5 Pro can even do it on Fortnite. Most of the artifacting is eliminated on top of enhancements for reflections and the like, in theory most modern gaming computers with a competent RTX card should be able to handle hardware lumen perfectly fine. But presumably anyone actually using the lighting system overdoes or fucks it up royally.

>>718828759
oh i totally agree, but a lot of this is epic games trying to match the retardation of developers. even on the nvidia side, dlss had leather jacket man on stage telling you that with upscaling, your old graphics card could hold on longer. how long did it take developers to make upscaling mandatory? 3 years? ue 5.6 is a lot faster than 5.5, and especially 5.4, but that doesn't matter when everyone is going to go "oh boy, it's faster! we need 150,000 nanite trees with 10 million polygons each on screen at all times!".

>>718819295 (OP)
>4060
e-waste

>>718828546
honestly rx 7600 is an even bigger pile of shit
but nobody talks about it because nobody cares about amd gpu

Why does fortnite run good and its the only ue5 game that does

>>718828935
The RX7600 is better than the 5090 because it doesn't have fake frames LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>718828978
Does it?

>>718828978
even Fortnite has shader compilation stutters in gameplay

I bet this post is retarded.

surely my 3080 is enough if the product page says this, riiiiiiight?

Maybe they should have used Source Engine 1.

>>718819295 (OP)
Kojimbo won...

>>718829047
Epic literally used to mention it in UE documentation that shader compilation in gameplay is inevitable because of dynamic shaders, that typical match in Fortnite has X shader compilations and that it's fine, because no one notices it anyways.

>>718819295 (OP)
>bro why can't I run this new game with my ancient computer?

notice how this >>718829148
is less blurry than this >>718819295 (OP)

>>718829208
Why does the new game look worse than the games that do run on my ancient computer?

All you have to do is buy a second PS5 and daisy-chain them with an HDMI splitter and you'll double your performance.
Everyone with any IT knowledge knows this.
>He hasn't doubled his PS5 power
LMAO

>>718829227
this >>718829148 a screen cap directly from game
this is >>718819295 (OP) a screen cap from video in motion encoded to heavily reduce the size

>>718819295 (OP)
You can buy a 4060 for 300€ right now. It's the absolute lowest of the low end cards right now.

If you have a card that is on par or worse, here's a tip: STOP BEING POOR. A 4070 has DOUBLE the framerate of a 4060 and only costs 500€. So sick of poorfag vatniks constantly crying.

People are defending this and calling others peasants and poorfags because they don't have the current gen GPU. What the hell happened? Is there no constructive and critical thinking left anymore? Let's just throw more money at the problem and get the current flagship gpu so that we can play "remasters".

>>718829097
for a smooth 45fps

If i wasn't a lazy bum i'd start a youtube channel where i upload exclusively full playthroughs of UE5 games but every time there's jarring ghosting or artifacts on the screen i'd do one of those bollywood repeat cuts on it and zoom in.

>>718822075
>The 4060 is a powerhouse

>>718822075
>4060 is a powerhouse
it was 3060 with reduced bus width and fake frames

>>718828080
vs
>>718819295 (OP)
>>718825757
how can it all be so BAD now? HOW????

>>718823371
MGSVfix.

I bought a 900p monitor for days like this

>>718819295 (OP)
>tfw 5700xt
bros... should I cancel my preorder? I played RE8 in 4K recently and it ran so smoothly...

>>718819295 (OP)
>ultra settings
so useless garbage wasting performance, I don't need physics on snake's pubes

>>718828217
make it stop just make it stop

>>718829723
sovl

>>718829723
looks almost like the original game now, nice

Why does every "native 1080p" look like 360p? What the fuck is this gaslighting?

>>718829890
because were used to 4k

>>718829995
Don't gaslight me, too, you little bitch.

have Asmongold or Charlie commented on the sitch yet? i really need to get a professional opinion

>>718830107
they're too busy eating the roaches in their room give them time.

>>718829890
DLSS and TAA

>>718819295 (OP)
MGS3 sucks as a videogame dare I say, MGS1 - 3 Levels are linear and the "stealth" is pacman tier. They should have went balls to the wall and made better levels instead of copying it 1:1
MGSV had the best gameplay gimped by shitty open world design. People suck off these games because the ebin story.

>>718829890
you're watching it on youtube on a 1080p monitor is why

>>718830214
>1080p monitor
4k

>>718824060
literally not a real person

>>718830384
Realest motherfucker in the unreal sphere

honestly there was no chance they weren't gonna use ue5. not while only have 4 pajeets working on it.

>>718822075
>The 4060 is a powerhouse

So what's the file size on pc?

>all games looks the same
>shitty optimization
>developers forcing you into fake frames
is UE slop menace the worst that happened to the modern gaming,

>>718819295 (OP)
>4060
>Ultra
What the fuck do you want? The latest 80 then later the 70 GPUs were always the minimum requirement for 60fps at max settings. Not only it's a 60 it's also from the previous gen. Also don't >1080p me anything bigger than that at 60fps was always a meme reserved for 90s/titans.

>>718821204
That's because MGSV has an empty dead world, the game loses track of enemies if there's more than a handful of them, disappearing and reappearing in front of your eyes if you move around too much in a single base.

so what's the next engine that's going to save gaming? some fork of ue4?

>>718830902
b-b-b-but it's a ps2 game!!!!!

>>718826161
Fucking infuriating that every new game assumes the player will use fake resolution and hallucinated frames, so without any of that shit enabled you'll get absolutely dogshit performance at any resolution above 1080p.

>>718830974
Gayming doesn't need saving just don't play AAA garbage.

>>718819295 (OP)
>have fox engine capable of achieving amazing graphics while running great without fake bullshit and everything looking like a blurry mess
>use unreal shit 5
why?

>>718830974
Renderware 2

>>718822075
>The 4060 is a powerhouse

>boo hoo , why won't new game run on my poorfag pc?
lmao

>>718825713
>high settings, dlss quality, 30-40 fps
Meeeeh ill take it, i completed crysis 3 at 640x320 16 fps in posthuman as a kid this is no different.

>>718819295 (OP)
It doesn't even look nearly good enough for that bad of a performance.

>>718831071
That's a nice dream. Hold onto it.

>>718824748
Jedi Survivor

>>718830902
For something that came years after the console gen started and costs more than half a ps5 on its own to handle everything at 1080p with ease.

>>718827624
He reminds me more of vitas for some reason

>>718827448
>>718827521
his very own phantom, huh?

>>718830858
Chatgpt self destruct or i kill the president of israel right now.

>>718821183
Supercharged PC

UE5 is actual fucking cancer and you niggers that always go JUST BUY LE LATEST AND NEWEST GPU LAMAAAOOOOO are not helping this issue become any better. No, your fucking hardware is NOT the problem at all and it isn't the case like 95% of the fucking time. It's the engine and devs either not wanting to optimize, not wanting to or simply not having time for it. The pattern is always the same. What will the fucking cope be when we get up to nvidia 6080TI levels and the new unreal shit is STILL raping performance in games? something's gotta give

>>718831940
As long as normalfags keep buying it nothing will change.

>>718831940
UE5 is kino.

>>718819295 (OP)
how the fuck is this possible?
it barely looks any better than mgsv

>>718830974
The decima engine.

I'm not going to reply to anyone in particular, we all know how fucking terrible UE5 is. Am I crazy or doesn't Konami own the FOX engine? Which looks better, performs like a dream and handles this kind of game like it was built for it? Where the everliving fuck is the FOX engine??

Decima engine "win" only because it offers far less features by default.

>>718832591
>looks like a game from 6 years ago
>needs the latest hardware to crack 60fps
K I N O
I
N
O

>>718819573
>where the ps5 pro version actually runs worse than the base ps5
The Pro runs at 4k the base PS5 at 1080 and both run better than what OP is showing.

Retarded poorfags complain that the latest game can't achieve max setting 60 fps on a 2 year old budget gpu.
Retarded zoomies don't understand that there was never a single period in the history of pc gaming when you could use budget cards and ultra settings together.

>They even kept the framerate drops
KINO

>>718832772
its almost like there are behinds the scenes deals Unreal keeps making with game studios and hardware companies

>>718832639
Kojigroids are truly fucked in the brain.

>>718829235
Take of your rose-tinted glasses.

>>718819295 (OP)
>4060

>>718832772
UE5 is cost cutting measure.
On top of that every pajeet knows how to use unreal.

>>718831101
>>718832827
>tired of being a poorfag
>buy a rtx 4090 and a 4k oled monitor
>still only get 30 fps(with upscaling) on latest ue5 slop
um richfag bros? what the fuck is this?

>>718832784
>>looks like a game from 6 years ago
heres the biggest game from 2019

>>718832853
sovl

>>718832591
This just looks like Battlefield 1 without the shitty filters

>>718832639
You genuinely just forgot how blurry MGS5 textures were. And it's way easier to render bare desert compared to jungles with thick trees and grass.

>>718832853
PBR hard carries the game

>>718829350
BF1 my beloved

>1080p
>40 fps
>RTX 4060 is extremaly weak card (btw its msrp was $300, not $150)
I swear... those UE5 cocksuckers... are retarded af... FUCK TIM, FUCK UE5 and FUUUCK NGREEDIA with AYMD.
If you get 40 fps on medium performance... you should pay barely $150 for said gpu.

>>718832921
>buy geforce 7900 gtx
>it can't run Crysis at max settings

>>718828420
Name cases when that worked

reminder that the last of us part 2 is 40 dollars and it's way more enjoyable than that visual novel ahem i mean codec simulator mgs3

>>718827004
>No, it can't even maintain 60 on low with shadows disabled entirely.
it is 30-50 fps on medium 1080p lmao, it is a disaster...

>>718819295 (OP)
>4060 kek

>>718832983
I see what you mean but BF1 is showing its age.

>>718827521
>Everything that moves has 6 afterimages and this is on console with no frame gen
This is badly implemented TAA, another shit technology ruining games with its ghosting and smearing. I'm tired of this shit...

>>718832924
Fromslop still looks like this today. RE2R came out 6 years ago and it looks better than MGS3R

Boomer here that has only played MGS1. Dropped MGS2 years ago after I got filtered hard by the stupid floating island map design
What's the best way to play MGS2 today? Also, is MGS3 remake confirmed to be soulless?

>>718821289
>upgrade
>play shit at 40FPS

>don't upgrade
>play shit at 15FPS

Pick your poison

>>718833440
>RE2R came out 6 years ago and it looks better than MGS3R
Ah yes, can you post some forests from RE2 so we can compare it to MGS3R?

>>718829350
>You can buy a 4060 for 300€ right now
Why would you if you can't even play at 1440p on it?
>STOP BEING POOR
I'm not upgrading every 2 years, that's not a reasonable expectation. 4070 came out in 2024. You should only upgrade once per console gen, to whatever the midrange is. If games can't run on that, they suck.

>>718826442
Nigga we've watched the vids where it drops to the 30s

>>718833516
MGS3 isn't just forests dumbass. We can see what it looks like indoors and it doesn't look any better than RE2R

>>718833440
>RE2R
LMAO
It uses RE engine. RE Village uses the same engine, came later, and it can't render trees past 5 meters. The same engine completely shat it pants in MH Wilds, that game runs extremely poorly despite looking like shit.

It's super easy to render small rooms. It's completely different thing to render open world.

>>718832853
Looks worse but it has more... hi-def assets? Completely souless, i bet it plays like shit too.

>>718833609
>nooooooo i will only heckin upgrade ONCE!!!!!
then buy the best of the best when you can instead of going for the poorfag versions

>>718833609
PS5 Pro came out in 2024

>>718833665
>open world
What fucking open world? Do you zoomer retards even understand what MGS3 is? It's corridor game, those forests are tiny corridors. There's no open world in it lmao

>>718833660
MGS3 obviously has far more complex environments to render than RE2R which takes place in dark hallways only.

>>718821289
>Why is literally every single game like this?
It's not. You just have confirmation bias.

>>718833715
>then buy the best of the best
Why the fuck should I? I'll match console specs once a gen with a little extra power and I'm set for the generation. If YOU can't optimize the game for this PC, that's not my problem. It's your job to do exactly that, you're not making PC exclusives here, you're making games designed to run on PS5 tier hardware. 4070 is not PS5 tier hardware.

>>718829350
>You can buy a 4060 for 300€ right now.
lmao, 300€ for 40 fps... what a deal, we are truly living enshtification era.

>>718829350
better wait for 4060 ti super

>>718833937
*5060 ti super

>>718833729
>zero reading comprehension
Open world in the rendering sense as the opposite of the small rooms. Even if the game is linear, it still needs to render way more objects and way further compared to RE2R. That's why I used RE Village as an example where the same engine just dies.

>>718819295 (OP)
>RE4R walls
cringe

t-therell be a patch day 1 right bwos?

>>718827345
>>718827398
>>718827458
>fake fucking fans that started with MGSV thinking the singer is Donna Burke
>when its the same singer from 2004 Cynthia Hall just singing the song again for the remake
to think the complainers are shitters that played MGSV first because Donna Burke got big from that song

>>718834205
no you fucking retard nothing good will ever happen ever again because you let them get away with changing how the author of a children's book's name was spelled 10 years ago
you let this timeline happen

>>718819295 (OP)
>Game uses UE5
I think I found the problem guise!

>>718834350
SNAKE YOU CAUSE A TIME PARADOX!

>>718834083
REngine is 100% a UE fork with no shader comp (cancer on cancer)

>>718834292
donna burke's been working with konami for 30 years you mongoloid shitstain she didn't just magically show up for mgsv she voices 2 of konami's most well known characters even

>>718819295 (OP)
how did we went from the technical marvel that was MGS5 running silky smooth on the potatoest of potatos to this?

>RTX 3060
https://youtu.be/E48AIGjXkHE?si=Wukb_ndnYnU-bTfh
UE5 trash. It's over! I'm getting Silksong instead.

when does the pendulum swing and we get good looking games again

>>718834350
w-why are you blaming me ? are you referring to the Bernstein bear bros or something?

>>718834464
Same way MGS2 ran at 60 on PS2 while MGS3 dropped to knees even on PS3

Industry is in the fucking garbage bin and you normalfags retarded niggers keep buying slop

>>718834551
>when does the pendulum swing and we get good looking games again
When you stop using 1080p.

>>718821134
Idk what they did to it but that 60fps never actually feels bad like it does for me in other games

>>718834674
bot

>>718834674
How does that solve a problem that developers are responsible for?

>>718826569
>actually discuss the game and its gameplay
Game's been out for 2 decades. What else is there to discuss besides performance and graphics?

>>718834673
hehe
>Preorders it on GMG

>>718834776
exactly, take it to /vr/ mongoloids, don't forget your prune juice

>>718819295 (OP)
AAA devs really need to go back to making in-house engines. UE5 is such massive pile of garbage and it has ruined so many games already. It's just too much of a resource hog.

>>718834674
>upgrade to 1440p
>games still run like garbage look like wet sand and produce ghosting out the cunt
okay now what

Every time the internet has tried to convince me that a new pc game has abysmal performance, it ends up working fine on my machine. Maybe it's because most of these performance test are done without the day 1 patch or whatever. When Rise of the Ronin got it's pc release in March, I saw countless posts about how fucked the performance is. But my experience was that it kept a steady 60@4k pretty much through out my whole play through. But then I remember your average "Pc performance is shit" poster has a 2070 or some ancient piece of crap

>>718832848
It sounds both plausible and conspiracy at the same time. Fucked any chance of Stalker 2 being good, that's for sure
>>718832885
Evidently no they don't, I haven't seen a single UE5 game that pushes graphics anywhere that doesn't run like shit.

>>718826569
>discuss the gameplay of a remake copying mgsv that you can't even play yet
Room temperature IQ b8

>>718834778
shoganai

>>718834541
Graphics look worse than crysis, what a piece of shit.

UE has out of the box support for PC. In what sense is it ported?

how the fuck does everyone and their mothers already play Delta?

>>718834958
can't help it I'm brown

>>718834875
Yeah it's mostly turdmenistanians larping when really they're running builds that were budget builds 5-10 years ago

>>718829097
"Recommended" is pretty much minimum required spec these days.

>>718835007
should've applied for early acces pleb

>>718835019
Being brown is a state of mind, break the chains.

>>718835046
early access isn't even out

>>718834431
Yeah i know retard, she even sang for Peace Walker but it doesn't change the fact that them motherfuckers got the singer wrong for MGS3.

>>718821289
>what's the point of "upgrading"
>to a 4060 lmfao

>>718829097
>surely my 3080 is enough if the product page says this, riiiiiiight?
won't be long before it's not enough
>bl4 recommended is a 3080
>now this too
I think I'll need a new gpu soon too because this won't work for games in a year

>>718827345
>they replaced donna burke completely
retard

>>718834429
um akshually RE Engine is a fork of Panta Rhei engine which is a fork of MT Framework engine
and it has shader precomp but it's not shown to user and is done very quickly in the background during startup, atleast that's how it is with RE4R, can't say anything about other RE Engine games

>>718822075
>The 4060 is a powerhouse

>>718819295 (OP)
>UE5 game is unoptimised, low fps and stuttery with extra ghosting
What else is new?

>>718822075
nigga they castrated all low and mid cards and refuse to improve the situation

>>718835292
lol re engine still has the weakness of mt framework where it can't cope with open worlds as it's entirely built for corridors and closed off areas

>>718824183
>brand new hardware
I dont know if lowest tier 2 year old hardware has ever been able to max settings 1080p60 in the history of computing

>>718833873
>>718833937
retarded jeets that cant into reading comprehension

>>718835065
>keeps browning about

>>718834909
Who said anything about making the game run well?
That's not on the priority list.

>>718835626
So still better for such niche games than UE5, that works well in none kind of games.

game looks like actual fucking shit, like, grass is not fucking moving when he goes through it? what the fuck is this shit league of legends does it better than this lol

>not dlss5
<RTX5000fags need not apply

>>718819295 (OP)
>Playing modern video games

>>718835626
RE9 dead on arrival

>>718835628
Even on the low preset which completely destroys the shadows it can't maintain 60 fps as you can see from the video. And 1080p has been the pleb resolution for quite a while now, at this point 1080p60 shouldn't be a big deal for a 2 year old 60 class card, esp. given the stagnation in graphics. Though max settings specifically are not important, they are practically always pointless and retarded.

>>718827796
because today's devs go to college for this, they're trained in UE and unity and they don't do much programming of their own, the days where every dev studio had an in house engine with graphics programmers being able to create graphics effects with the least resource hit possible are over

>>718819295 (OP)
>1080p
>dlss on
>medium settings
>50fps

lol

lmao

>>718834061
>Open world in the rendering sense
LMAO what a sad attempt to save face. In no sense is that open world, it's a small location with a lot of speedtree foliage plopped onto it. Not any bigger than the city locations you see in RE2R

>>718833723
And when games become exclusive to PS5Pro, upgrading to those specs would be mandatory. If they run well on PS5 they should run well on PS5 equivalent PC.

>>718824679
>time to optimize.
Fuck off
You write your shaders and set polybudgets based on target performance
Fuck you want to oprinmize when the game is done? go back and redo all assets from scratch?

Its 100% on the devs, they dont test their games, they dont care how it runs during development, and then release it in shitty states.
You cant oprimize a finished game unless there is some serious problems, usually the shaders are too heavy, assets too dense and there is too much overdraw in level design.

>>718819295 (OP)
>4060
ps4 tier
where's benchmarks with 9060/70XT?

>>718838735
maybe studios dont allow for time to optimize the engine before hand

GRAFFIX was the worst cancer to ever hit gaming.

And they even dare to charge the equivalent of $95 for it here in Norway, for the BASE VERSION
I was even thinking about buying it despite it having no drm, which is rare for me, but fuck no with all this shit, the price is a final major fuck you on top

>>718839061
Its a licensed engine, its optimized well enough, anybody can download unreal 5 sdk and play around and see it works fine.
And no amount of optimizing will fix 500 000 tris character models, overdraw up the ass and heavy ass spaghetti code shaders those retarded devs use. Then they slap shitty unoptimized UI on top that overdraws even more and you end up with 5 draw calls per pixel.

There is deep competency crysis in those studios, as troons and women take over there is nobody left who knows how to make a game, even with a amazing SDK with largest documentation and support in history. Fucking you can go on youtube and look up how to create any unreal shader, 20 years ago you had to invent it yourself, or have friends in other studios you could ask.

>>718839280
>crysis

>>718819573
If we could fix UE5 with mods then Threat Interactive wouldn't have gotten any attention, nor would he to start some fundraiser to fix the engines optimisation problems. I mean it still requires competent developers who know how to optimise a games (some devs are shit), but the engine itself is still a major issue.

>>718819573
why do retards who have no idea what they're even talking about always post their opinions so confidently?

>>718839478
the engine isn't the part that's making overall performance terrible, the engine's causing microstutters during level streaming
the bad performance is entirely on the devs themselves

>>718832591
>>718832784
>>718832924
Wither 3 was released in 2019?

>>718836879
looking at how MGS3 is structured, RE engine would work quite well here
>>718837462
nah, RE9 will have hub areas like RE8 and it won't have any problems with that since you're most likely gonna have like few zombies around and such
it's terrible in games like DD2 and MHWilds where you got gorillion npcs and their scripting plus the players at camps in MHW, that's where it shits the bed entirely

>>718838668
>Not any bigger than the city locations you see in RE2R
You're genuinely retarded. The city section is basically just slightly bigger rooms with everything walled off by barricades and all backgrounds hidden by tall buildings and darkness. And don't forget that buildings due to their flat and square nature are the most effective meshes in terms of size to polygon count ratio,
When they tried to use the same engine in Village players were getting tree LoD popups literally 5 meters in front of them.

>>718822075
>Unreal 5 menace
the fault is with nvidia and their bad drivers. UE5 games perform completely fine on AMD hardware.

>>718839620
I would ask you to provide us with a showcase of games made on Unreal Engine 5 that push photorealistic graphics or whatever example you want to use, that provides taxing loads on GPUs, but are well optimised?

>>718840395
no, retard
you can easily educate yourself on the actual flaws of the engine to learn what issues are inherent to the engine and what aren't

>>718838735
>You write your shaders and set polybudgets based on target performance
Yes, and that what MGS Triangle devs did. It's pretty clear they were targeting 30 fps variable res in quality mode on consoles because that's what EVERYONE uses as their target. From what I can see this game doesn't run any worse on consoles than any other AAA slop released in the past years.

>>718840619
They don't exist is the thing, because there is still a specific part of it is that is inherent to the engine itself. I'm not excusing the fact that many incompetent developers that don't know anything about optimisation use this engine in droves and hence we see so many bad performing games. And what is still a bare minimum is that the developers need to have their own learned optimisation skills independent of UE to be able to even attempt to transfer that over to Unreal. But there's also nothing we can point to.

>>718819295 (OP)
I have a 5090 none of this matters to me. I set everything to max and it literally just werks.

>>718821289
Buy a better GPU goyi- valued customer

>>718819295 (OP)
>40"6"0
run it on 750Ti next

>>718830971
And Delta has PS2 core with upgraded graphic. There Is no excuse for this bullshit.

>>718819295 (OP)
>>718819637

>ultra quality on a 4060
>bro why is crysis not running well on my voodoo rush wtf
that's not what that card was made for, incel. keep coping and seething and being poor and retarded.
>>718821858
have sex, incel

>>718841143
Ok

bruh

>>718841567
This is also the least demanding section of the game.

Nvidia drivers are fucking bad bros literally 30% worse fps than RADV

>>718840381
Bro Nvidia drivers SUCK so bad when it involves DX12 or Vulkan which EVERY game is now. DX11 is depreciated.

>>718827345
you made me think they put donna in for whatever reason. fuck that retarded bitch.

it's still the original singer. weird that they re-recorded it though. I prefer the original version but I imagine they don't have the master recording to clean up.

>>718841737
>DX11 is depreciated.
So is OpenGL.
Basically anyone who owns Nvidia GPU now for gaming is retarded. They care more about marketing DLSS than actual GPU feature support like APIs.

Kojima's birthday present from his friends at Konami

>>718841683
Yeah I don't get who would buy a 5070ti or 5080 right now with all the unresolved driver issues between games, video software, and more.

>>718841817
Yeah I was surprised that the Nvidia driver is missing Vulkan extensons that emulators use heavily so they end up performing worse than AMD

>>718819295 (OP)
This seems like Konami retardation, Silent Hill 2 ran great and used the same engine. I'm glad I skipped this, looks like a fucking mess.

>>718823349
>1:09
holy fuck how are the enemies so blind

>>718841985
it's a 1:1 remake of the original game, which was originally designed with a top down camera in mind.

>>718821289
>graphics plateau
>people stop buying new cards, nvidia loses it's gamer customer base
or
>graphics plateau
>nvidia makes deals with timmy and major publishers to artificially increase the hardware requirements for new games
>nvidia continues to sell $2000 graphics cards to drones that want to play the newest unreal 5 slop

>>718832924
Right, RDR2 was In 2018, totally forgot

>>718821289
This new slop doesn't look one bit better than MGSV and that ran on 1440 60 on ultra on my old rx580

>>718839620
Then Epic themselves must be shit, because even their flagship game Fortnite has performance issues on UE5, and they're the designers of the fucking engine, and even they can't iron out all of its issues.

9070 XT chads we RUN this fucking shithole

>>718842685
I have 9070 XT and don't even wanna touch Delta, desu

>>718842813
soz sister

>>718834692
it's the framepacing

>>718819573
>>718819928
Just because it is well known that UE5 sucks doesn't make it sting any less when more and more games use this garbage.

this is depressing

>>718819573
>mod to fix engine performance
this is how I'm reminded this board is filled with retards

>>718819295 (OP)
>pc slop

>>718843321
Did you forget the thread last night in which Digital Foundry reported that the base PS5 ran the game better than a PS5 pro? lol

>>718819295 (OP)
>that blur, fps, vram usage, etc
ue5 was a mistake
in my shot the game was using 2gb vram and the fps was astronomically high for modern age

>>718829616
I don't know if it's better in Phantom Pain, but uncapping the framerate in GZ created weird issues for me. Stutters, camera response time was worse and turned slower overall, if I aimed and turned the camera the movement was stuttery. Overall it felt quite uncomfortable to play Disabled the fix and everything worked as it should, smooth as butter.

>>718843263
>OH WOWIE I PUT THIS INI FILE IN THERE GOT A WHOLE 2 EXTRA FPS BY BREAKING TEXTURE FILTERING!!!
It's fucking sad, I wish consoles would just take over again.

>>718829350
Vatniks?

>>718829350
they are cheap but all these cards starting from 4070 require 2VHPWR which is like signing a permit to burn down your own house

>>718843910
The 4070 does not require 12vHP though.

>>718819295 (OP)
4060 is barely faster than a PS5

>>718819295 (OP)
>1080p medium DLSS quality is the same as 1440p medium DLSS performance

>>718844942
both use 720p internal resolution

>>718845072
I hate video games so much it's unreal

>>718827448
>>718827521

>>718821183
LMAO
AHAHAHAHAHA
PISSTATION BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>>718819295 (OP)
UE5 IS FUCKING DOGSHIT

>>718819295 (OP)
>4060
Lmao u poor

DOES IT HAVE DENUVO?!?!? I HOPE IT DOESN'T BECAUSE I WANT TO PLAY IT, BUT ABSOLUTELY NO WAY I AM PAYING FOR IT

>>718846576
Steam page doesn't mention denuvo and Silent Hill 2 didn't have denuvo either

>>718846576
it doesn't
it's why konami only sent review copies to the best of the best and not shitters like dsogaming and gmanlives, to prevent early leaks due to not using denuvo

>>718827542
Dynamic resolution.

>>718847071
Delta also uses dynamic resolution on PS5 and it drops to 40s in performance mode

>>718827796
Epic pushed this "everyone can make games" bullshit for a while and tried to make the engine useable for people that barely know anything, which led to them introducing blueprints and other inefficient nonsense like that. While this shit was never supposed to be used primarily and coding is generally still required to fix the shortcomings of this crap, it still led to tons of idiots flooding the industry that barely know anything aside from navigating the engine and using said tools on a basic level and proper problem solving skills were kind of lost in the process. Useability is one thing, but when it comes at the cost of efficiency then the end result becomes pretty much what we see nowadays.

>>718847283
That's not the point, it was worded carefully as if to imply it was static resolution.

>>718827765
>Tons of popular games in UE3
>Almost none in UE4
>UE5 explodes with shit games
What's the reason for that? I thought UE4 was stable and more capable than UE3

>>718847717
Unity and in-house engines were much more popular at that time but there were a lot of popular UE4 games. Fortnite, Ark, and BL3 were all UE4.

>>718847717
>>Almost none in UE4
>Fortnite
>PUBG
Literally the biggest 8th gen games

>>718819408
>can't fight against Steam on equal ground with epic store
>decides to ruin the entire market with a dogshit engine nobody can run instead
Honestly, that's pretty based.

>>718821289
UE5
>>718826161
Just run it at 1440p. It's not going to look much worse at all.

>>718821183
>PS3
>720p
>PS5
>720p
The more things change, the more they stay the same. Thanks for UE5, mr Chang.

>>718848001
I guess they just seem like slop to me next to UE3 games
At least BL3 looks technically and artistically what it wants to be so its not some issue with UE4, probably more the in house engines
>>718848020
Incomparable to actual projects like XCOM and arkham
>The worst of slop that led to UE5 culture was made in it
Kind of my point

>>718847717
UE4 was dogshit that's why.

>>718819295 (OP)
Why would I play anything released past, I dunno, 2014?

>>718849148
Keep believing that

>>718849148
What about it tho next to UE3
I mean we got actual timeless classics there

Stutter Engine 5 was a huge mistake

>>718849519
That would be UE4, UE5 games stutter less but at the same time average FPS is also much lower.
So both are shit but for different reasons.

>>718819295 (OP)
Just don't be poor

>>718841979
>Silent Hill 2 ran great
...

>>718819573
The absolute state of the average PCMRetard

>>718849636
Bitch

UE3
>shit
UE4
>decent
UE5
>ultra shit
UE6
>ultra decent?
trust the plan, next gen will bring salvation

>>718823196
They're running the games at the same fucking resolutions than in the ps3, or even worse, since at least on the ps3 most games were 720p, and most ps5 games run at lower than 720p.

>2080Ti
Even better than the 5060.
The 5th gen of their cards was an absolute fraud.

>>718850436
UE4 was decent until everyone switched to DX12, when it became the most well known example of shader compilation stutters

>>718827521
>and this is on console with no frame gen
That's probably the raytracing not casting rays fast enough, it always does this shit doesn't matter if you use dlss/fsr or you don't, the hardware isn't just fast enough to process the rays at the same pace as the rest.

>>718841567
>Looks worse than Crysis
>Runs worse than Crysis with hardware that's probably insanely higher in power
I'm glad I rarely touch UE games

>>718819295 (OP)
I love seeing PCMR and PC vegans with RTX 2060-4060 cry out in pain. All the 8GB VRAM master shitter trolls paying that $330 entry level toll. Pay up for $800 GPUs or get fucked.

>>718827521
>this is on console
Typical UE5 TAA implementation. Thankfuly this won't be an issue with DLSS or FSR4.

>>718822075
>The 4060 is a powerhouse, it's just the Unreal 5
Third world South America/Southeast Asia/Eastern Europe/India = PC "gamers" on RTX 60s and other 8GB VRAM ewaste GPU. Money stolen, no refunds! 16GB VRAM NVIDIA video cards starting at 599 real world street prices!

>>718828191
It's been years. If Epic hasn't adapted by updating their default shit with more performant and better looking (due to having many less image quality artifects on lower end hardware like consoles) options is it not on them as well? "It's not the engine, it's the devs." Yeah, the engine devs, fix this shit already.
You think if an in-house engine has issues with the default values the engine team just blames every individual game dev for not fixing it on their end? No, they're told to fix their shit and update it across the board.
It's not the Resident Evil team's fault that RE Engine's SSR implementation was a gigantic pile of trash, it was on the RE Engine team to implement better solutions. Pragmata now supports good quality ray traced reflections even on consoles.

>>718819295 (OP)
>36fps
>in 2020+5

Bitcher 3

>>718851292
Witcher 4 and Cyberpunk 2 will be on UE5

>>718851360
*UE6

>>718851360
The Bitcher 2

>GTX 1080

The best. The relic. The legend.

>>718849856
If you don't have any indian PC, it's easily one of the best UE5 games and one of the best looking games ever made. Sorry your 3GB 1060 is is old, Ranjeet. :(

>>718851452
Northlight is so good, I hope Remedy can make Alan Wake 3 before they go out of business.

>>718840861
They fucked up by not even having a 30fps mode on the Pro, then, and as usual the UE5 30fps cap is trash. Console players getting the PC 30fps experience from before people figured out that half refresh rate vsync (or lower if you're on a higher refresh rate display) was all you needed instead of framerate caps.

>>718825998
>i sold my kidney to buy a powerhouse pc, now it can barely run new games
Don't worry, it runs like shit for everyone. The 5090 is the only better GPU, and only barely. And no amount of fake frames will save it.