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Anonymous No.718827853 >>718828473 >>718828716 >>718829962 >>718830058 >>718830758 >>718831014 >>718832115 >>718832383 >>718832445 >>718832473 >>718832542 >>718832619 >>718832704 >>718833304 >>718833754 >>718834165 >>718834407 >>718834504 >>718834647 >>718834759 >>718835045 >>718835219 >>718836562 >>718836951 >>718837005 >>718838372 >>718838626 >>718842786 >>718847135 >>718856372 >>718857561 >>718858189
It’s the best all around final fantasy. It doesn’t have gameplay problems like 8 or pacing problems like 7. It isn’t rpg maker pixel shit like 1-6 or soulless like the full 3d era.
Anonymous No.718827929 >>718828772 >>718830061
Anonymous No.718828173
Truly a unique gift
Anonymous No.718828473 >>718832115 >>718832738
>>718827853 (OP)
>pixel shit like 1-6
You don’t have to be stupid your entire life you know. FF6 is in the running for one of the best RPGs ever made.
Anonymous No.718828716 >>718829260 >>718838126
>>718827853 (OP)
I love turn based combat but this has some of the slowest turn based combat I've ever experienced. If it wasn't for emulation's speed up toggle, the game would be unplayable. I dropped it back when I had it for the PS1 due to the combat being such a slog. FF9 is great otherwise but it's far from a perfect game. FF7's combat is lightning fast in comparison.
Anonymous No.718828772 >>718854976
>>718827929
FF is a soilennial series though
Anonymous No.718829260 >>718830039
>>718828716
If we exclude slow transitions in field-to-battle and battle-to-field, it's gets into FF7 levels of goodness.
Anonymous No.718829741
Despite some extended animations, the world is huge. I implore all to get lost in it at some point. You won't be sorry
Anonymous No.718829962 >>718831741
>>718827853 (OP)
>has Freya Crescent
Literally all I need
Anonymous No.718830039 >>718830913 >>718833132 >>718833259
>>718829260
Not even that, actually. Yes, the intro and outro transitions are glacial, but even the core animations are sluggish. Go and measure the time it takes for Cloud to run up and hit an enemy with a normal attack versus how long it takes for Zidane to do it and you'll quickly find that almost every battle action in FFIX has substantial lathargy to it compared to VII and VIII. This is true of enemy actions too, for that matter. Like it may only be a second or so difference per action, but considering how many moves that can happen in a given battle it becoms preposterous. The only thing that might compare are the summon animations are obscenely long for all three games but IIRC only FFIX has the short summon animations that come at a reduced effect penalty and really suck as a result. Everything aboutt FFIX has some kind of weird delay or momentum to it that slows the whole thing down and it permeates most of the game. It's still an amazing game, but holy shit is that sluggishness annoying.
Anonymous No.718830058
>>718827853 (OP)
It is the full package. People who hate this game hate FF, simple as.
Anonymous No.718830061
>>718827929
Based, I bet that zoomertranny has never played any FF
Anonymous No.718830758
>>718827853 (OP)
It has horrible fucking pacing, confusing layout for cities and dungeons, the fights are slow, the enemy design is fuxking cringe, the coolest monster was an antlion, figthing magic beans and worms until the end game makes you feel weak , learning skills by swapping equipment is infinitely more annoying than even drawing magic, I fell asleep 3 times in my playthrough because the music is just baby melodies.
It's without a doubt the worst final fantasy I have ever played and I have played them all.
Only autist like it
Anonymous No.718830913 >>718831112
>>718830039
I love that Square heard people say the summons in FF8 were just too over the top and long and their response for 9 was FUCK YOU IF YOU WANT A SHORTER SUMMON IT'S WEAKER WATCH THE LONGASS ANIMATION FOR NOT ENOUGH DAMAGE TO JUSTIFY IT
Anonymous No.718831014
>>718827853 (OP)
Agreed, luv me 9.
Anonymous No.718831112 >>718831286
>>718830913
Seriously what the fuck were they thinking? If they were going to make abreviated summons anyway it should've just been a on/off game setting so people could either enjoy the full spectacle or simply get on with their lives, not have actually gameplay effects.
Anonymous No.718831208
>prerendered graphics slop
No thanks. Full 2D or full 3D is the way.
Anonymous No.718831286 >>718831461
>>718831112
I love that Ark is 2 minutes long, caps at 9999, and isn't even guaranteed to do that much unless you're high enough level or min-max your equips. Literally "use it once and then never cast it again" tier.
Anonymous No.718831461
>>718831286
Summons are just kind of not worth it in IX, frankly. Athough I found Atmos is a useful trash cleaner if you have enough Amethysts in your inventory but that requires letting the full animation play out.
Anonymous No.718831741 >>718831970 >>718832167
>>718829962
how have they not made a better character since?
>is rat
>is woman
It's so simple, yet so effective. why don't they do this more?
Anonymous No.718831896
how did lil nigga vivi have kids
Anonymous No.718831970 >>718832167 >>718832878
>>718831741
I suspect Saber and her ilk bogarted the dignified anime knight woman archetype in Japanese media going forward. No one's willing to take a risk and fight the good fight for the anthro dragoon girl, certainly not in mainstream media these days.
Anonymous No.718832115 >>718832240 >>718832282 >>718832586 >>718832748 >>718832819 >>718834405
>>718827853 (OP)
Its really boring and shallow as a game, the gameplay sucks, its too easy and too shallow, enemy design is cookie cutter.
the pacing is fucked, the story is mediocre.
i will give you characters and soundtrack tho but its an overrated game.
>>718828473
>FF6 is in the running for one of the best RPGs ever made
yeah by journalists and casual plebs, only thing people like from ff6 is the story and everything else is below average compared to the best rpgs, if it came out today everyone would be calling it overrated, but just because its old and gained classic status through journalists like IGN shilling it nonstop because it was one of the few console easy to digest rpg they played in that age doesnt make it the best, it makes you slop eating retard that follows what the ign says
Anonymous No.718832167 >>718832230 >>718832878 >>718833067 >>718833203
>>718831741
>>718831970
>gets her race genocided
>apologizes to the woman who did it
best cuckquean rat
Anonymous No.718832230
>>718832167
>apologizes to the woman who did it
She apologizes to Beatrix? I don't remember that part. Also what the fuck for, lol.
Anonymous No.718832240
>>718832115
You're really comparing a SNES 3 MB game with 700+ MB games?
Anonymous No.718832252
>It doesn’t have gameplay problem
the battles run at 2fp
Anonymous No.718832282 >>718832330 >>718838290
>>718832115
>only reason people like ff6 is the story
>the whole point behind an RPG is Playing a Game by assuming Role in a story
When does school let back in?
Anonymous No.718832330 >>718832391 >>718832432
>>718832282
>MUH STOOORY
Thanks for confirming you are a retarded casual pleb
Anonymous No.718832383
>>718827853 (OP)
Let's see, FF7 has better:
>Music
>Characters
>Story
>Gameplay
>Setting
>Antagonist

FF9 has better what?
What exactly is supposed to be good about FF9 again?
If there is one thing FF9 excels at is at being one of the most casuals and baby tier brainless easy FF games. FF8 is way better and much interesting game than FF9 too.
Anonymous No.718832391 >>718832635 >>718832787 >>718832965 >>718833101 >>718838290
>>718832330
Story is the most important element in JRPGs. Deal with It.
Anonymous No.718832432 >>718832787 >>718833101 >>718837034 >>718838290
>>718832330
Do you honestly think anyone plays RPGs for the riveting edge of your seat action of turn based combat? Or maybe you like the tranime graphics designed to appeal to Japanese 8 year olds?
Anonymous No.718832445
>>718827853 (OP)
>The battles are so slow, they make Regen absolutely busted by proxy because it ticks 27 times before Vivi finishes casting Fire
>Freya gets shafted

Other than that, gud gaem. I am biased towards 8 though.
Anonymous No.718832473
>>718827853 (OP)
>it doesn't have pacing problems like 7
Except every time a battle starts and you have to wait like 30 seconds before you can do anything
Anonymous No.718832489
"people" who hate ff8 are literal don't deserve games
Anonymous No.718832542
>>718827853 (OP)
>Story, art direction, characters
yup its my favorite FF.

>ability learning system
fucking more annoying than junction
Anonymous No.718832572 >>718832604
Instead of making that shitty card game they could've expanded Amarant's role.
Anonymous No.718832586
>>718832115
You do know how to context right? FF6 can be played and enjoyed even now. Hating on pixels when you resort to Minecraft and Roblox is wild little one.
Anonymous No.718832604 >>718833067
>>718832572
i would prefer they cut him out and work beatrix into the roster (as was intended)
Anonymous No.718832619
>>718827853 (OP)
>It doesn’t have gameplay problems like 8 or pacing problems like 7
Battles that five hours to load.
Anonymous No.718832635 >>718832847 >>718832930 >>718833346
>>718832391
Story is the most important element in video games. This is why FF7 is better, its story is more fresh. FF9's story and world is too fantastic and dreamy, FF7 is more grounded in reality. FF9 flies off into the skies a bit too much.
Anonymous No.718832689
>RPGmaker exists because people loved 2D JRPGs
>Now all the 2D JRPGs that inspired it are "rpgmaker pixel shit"
IF you have a brain, please attempt to engage it before posting.
Anonymous No.718832704
>>718827853 (OP)
With Moguri mods gameplay mods its great
Anonymous No.718832738
>>718828473
>FF6 is in the running for one of the best RPGs ever made
lol no.
Anonymous No.718832748 >>718832819
>>718832115
>the gameplay sucks, its too easy and too shallow
And FF9's isn't...
Anonymous No.718832787 >>718833201
>>718832391
>>718832432
In recent years I've started claiming story in JRPGs doesn't matter at all as a way to dismiss criticisms of FFVIIR
Anonymous No.718832819
>>718832748
>>718832115
I REALIZE MY MISTAKE NOW, MY BAD
Anonymous No.718832847
>>718832635
>FF7 is more grounded in reality
I don't think you have played the game. You saw a modern-looking city and formed a retarded opinion based on that.
Anonymous No.718832878
>>718831970
>>718832167
Zidane can fix her
Anonymous No.718832883
FF6 final boss is the most memorable and evil one
FF9 final boss is...
>B-but muh death themes!!!
Nobody remembers Necron for a reason.
Anonymous No.718832930
>>718832635
>Story is the most important element in video games.
Who do people always make sweeping, incorrect claims like this?
The most important element depends on the game in question. Always has, always will.
Anonymous No.718832939
FF9 is nice and comfy experience but it doesn't offer the customization or replay value the other FFs do. FF9 is also really slow. The transistions to battle and battles themselves are slow slog.

It's good! It's simply not as good as 5, 6, 7, 8 or 10 or tactics
Anonymous No.718832965 >>718833191
>>718832391
Yeah, because they have nothing else to offer lmao.
Anonymous No.718833067 >>718833203
>>718832167
>>718832604
>Beatrix gets an actual character arc
>Freya comes to terms with her one time tormentor and also gets character payoff
Could've been kino. Too bad.
Anonymous No.718833101 >>718833242
>>718832391
>>718832432
RPG mechanics, Gameplay & World design are all more important
Anonymous No.718833132 >>718833438
>>718830039
>how many moves that can happen in a given battle
Five, maybe six if you're underleveled?
Half the time, I can clean out a random encounter before everyone even gets a turn.
Anonymous No.718833162 >>718833525 >>718837415
Anonymous No.718833191 >>718833282
>>718832965
They’re designed so that the player can assume a role in a story. That’s their point. Maybe Call of Duty #7335 is more your speed. I heard you can be Seth Rogen in the new one. Tell your wrangler.
Anonymous No.718833201
>>718832787
okay, that explains a lot
Anonymous No.718833203
>>718833067
>>718832167
Don't forget her ex faked amnesia just so he doesn't have to deal with her clingy ass.
>But he really di-
He was an adult when they dated, bro just wanted underaged pussy
Anonymous No.718833242 >>718833598
>>718833101
In FF5 maybe, definetively not in FF6/7
Anonymous No.718833259
>>718830039
The only slugginesh that irked me was the animation for in and out of trance. The combat was slower but not too much to get into my nerves.
Anonymous No.718833282 >>718833385
>>718833191
You "assume a role" in literally every game, you retarded nigger.
Anonymous No.718833304 >>718833378 >>718833469 >>718833490 >>718833497
>>718827853 (OP)
10 is not souless
it doesn't have as MUCH soul as 9, but it is far from souless
12 gets dangerously close to souless
anything after is slop

I like 9 a lot purely for the aesthetics and vibe, but as a game, 10 is much, much better. The music also better. 10 is Uematsu's best work without a shadow of a doubt.
Anonymous No.718833346 >>718833390 >>718833461
>>718832635
Both 7 and 9's story are literally about the same thing, 9 just approaches it without giving the planet itself insane animistic powers out of ass and instead of abstract mutant aliens you have a full fledged hostile takeover from another planet.
Anonymous No.718833378 >>718833538
>>718833304
>The music also better
Horseshit. 10 is remembered by 2, maybe 3 compositions. 9 is by far his strongest work all around.
Anonymous No.718833385 >>718833604
>>718833282
What’s your “role” in Tetris?
Anonymous No.718833390 >>718833448
>>718833346
Cloud and Zidane are totally different characters
Anonymous No.718833421 >>718833654
X and VII are the only ones that people still talk about.
Thus, they are the best.
Anonymous No.718833438
>>718833132
And then add up every given random encounter in a given zone. It all adds up, along with the horrendous loading times.
Anonymous No.718833448
>>718833390
Both of them are unwilling sleeper agents of the aliens. Except Zidane actually has personality.
Anonymous No.718833461
>>718833346
Always funny to me when 7 and 9 fags fight among each other when they thematically they are by far the closest games in the franchise.
Anonymous No.718833469
>>718833304
12 has she in it though. Bunny mommy automatically wins.
Anonymous No.718833490
>>718833304
>10 is Uematsu's best work without a shadow of a doubt.
I enjoyed it but isn't 10 where Uematsu's role starts to shrink and other composers start taking the helm? FF7 is in my opinion the peak, but everything from 1-9 is great
Anonymous No.718833497 >>718833545
>>718833304
I'd say 10 has stronger theming than 9. Everything about that world feels more coherent and you understand how Spira works, whereas 9's is a hodgepodge of fantasy tropes and borrows concepts from previous games (which is the point I know).
Anonymous No.718833525 >>718833580
>>718833162
I'm playing V for the first time and it kind of feels mechanically broken. Like it's cool and all but I don't know if a full party of mages should be able to punch everything to death with no real difficulty.
Anonymous No.718833538 >>718833570 >>718833591 >>718849203
>>718833378
There is not a single bad track in the score.
To Zanarkand is iconic.
Mt. Gagazet is fantastic.
The combat theme is one of the most memorable ones in the series.
Via Purifico is insanely good.
The Besaid music is great.

Honestly, the only track that's meh is the Blitzball track, but since that's for a minigame, I don't care.

Meanwhile, in 9, what do you have?
Treno? Dali? What else is even remotely memorable?
Anonymous No.718833545
>>718833497
Tidus, Yuna and Rikku's faces in that are jarring
Anonymous No.718833570
>>718833538
>What else is even remotely memorable?
You're not alone and Memories of Life i guess
Anonymous No.718833580 >>718833815
>>718833525
You are the bare-handed anon who posted few days ago? Where you at in the game?
Anonymous No.718833591 >>718834701
>>718833538
>There is not a single bad track in the score.
There's also almost nothing memorable. Meanwhile 9's entire ost is fucking stellar.
Anonymous No.718833598 >>718833648
>>718833242
NTA, but FFVII had really good game design. Like the Materia system might be overrated these days but in context it really is kind of fucking genius, especially compared to the other systems of the time.
Anonymous No.718833604 >>718833694 >>718833731
>>718833385
Block assembler.
Anonymous No.718833648 >>718833796
>>718833598
I can agree with this, which is why what they did to the remakes is a sin against god. It’s the worst thing the japs have done since Pearl Harbor
Anonymous No.718833654 >>718833703 >>718833725 >>718833850 >>718833882 >>718833914
>>718833421
>X and VII are the only ones that people still talk about.
Do people even talk about X that much? These days it feels like it's exclusively VII with the occasional VI/VIII/IX thread, if that.
Anonymous No.718833694
>>718833604
Lol that’s literally the opposite of what you’re supposed to do in that game
Anonymous No.718833703
>>718833654
There are many bait threads about X
Anonymous No.718833725
>>718833654
People talk about every FF except like the earliest ones since they didn’t play them.
Anonymous No.718833731
>>718833604
Fucking zoomers
Anonymous No.718833754
>>718827853 (OP)
I feel it had too many 'you didn't buy an extra two of an item to turn into another one a disk and a half from now, with no access to the shop any more? Too bad!' moments, but otherwise the game was enjoyable.
Anonymous No.718833796 >>718833839 >>718833968
>>718833648
Are you the "mastered materia needs to give birth to new materia" anon
Anonymous No.718833801
SEX WITH FREYA
Anonymous No.718833815 >>718833982
>>718833580
Yeah, that's me. I'm at the part after you get the airship and reach the flying fortress, I've been taking it pretty slow to grind out jobs a bit. It's been pretty awesome but I'm also at a bit of an impasse with which jobs to level since there's so many of them now. I know I need to get Red Mage maxed at some point but I'm shelving it for a while to focus on Hunter because 999 seems like a lot of job points right now.
Anonymous No.718833839 >>718833894
>>718833796
No but that’s not a bad idea.
Anonymous No.718833850
>>718833654
Yes. Ffs that get regular threads are 5-10 plus Tactics and Tactics Advance
Anonymous No.718833882
>>718833654
VII is unfair since it got/has a remake that's ongoing so it's going to get a lot of discussion.

VIII almost never ever gets threads. It's easily the least discussed (from the 3D era, not counting anything post X, of course).
VI doesn't get discussed. At all, same as all the non 3D ones.

IX gets rare threads. I'm very much expecting it to be the next one to get a full on remake ala VII so, it'll pick up a lot.

X still gets the occasional thread talking about the cringy laugh scene, the music, the plot and occasionally X-2 stuff.
Anonymous No.718833884
>FF7
Fantastic materia system that made characters very customizable
For some reason, not used anywhere else despite showing a ton of promise
>FF9
Fantastic passive system that is still used in vidya up to this day, Expedition 33 used it, Astlibra used it, a fucking Nioh 3 is going to use it

Wonder why the materia system never took off.
Anonymous No.718833894 >>718834075
>>718833839
Ok, what's your gripe with Remake's materia system?
Anonymous No.718833914 >>718833972
>>718833654
There's been quite a few lately, must be because the remaster was on sale. Been meaning to replay it for a while along with 10-2
Anonymous No.718833968 >>718834040
>>718833796
That's how it works in the original though
Anonymous No.718833972 >>718834024 >>718834079
>>718833914
10-2 sucks, don't bother
I will never ever understand how people defend that piece of shit game

I mean I guess I KNOW why they do, because they're stupid fucking gooners, but still.
Anonymous No.718833982 >>718834023 >>718834248
>>718833815
At the end before the Final Dungeon, new dungeons open up. The Phoenix tower in desert has set battles with Magic Pots that give big AP. Save your Double Cast grind there. Only one character needs the double cast, your other mage/s use Mime. Same with Hunter's 4×Atrack, only your physical fighters need that
Anonymous No.718834023
>>718833982
I've always used that to level up berserker for the stat boosts
Anonymous No.718834024
>>718833972
>I mean I guess I KNOW why they do, because they're stupid fucking gooners, but still.
The girls are not even hot. 12 unironically has a far hotter female cast because it was not helmed by autist who later created an ugly washboard Lighting.
Anonymous No.718834040 >>718834109
>>718833968
And for the main story only your All and basic magic materias were maxed. Max materia giving birth to new materia only mattered in post-story. I personally think you have fetish fixation for materia giving birth
Anonymous No.718834075 >>718834160
>>718833894
>Remake
Oh you mean Devil May Cry with chocobos? My biggest problem with it is that it’s not a Final Fantasy game. Also 80% of the game is mini games. I liked the new Star Ocean game better.
Anonymous No.718834079 >>718834162
>>718833972
10-2 is good game and gameplay system. The characters and story are cringe
Anonymous No.718834109
>>718834040
I'm not that guy and have no idea what you're talking about. I thought you were implying the remakes introduced that system or something.
And for the record every playthough I end up maxing out Long Range so I can have two in the back row
Anonymous No.718834160 >>718834198
>>718834075
No. What was your problem with remake's materia system?
Anonymous No.718834162 >>718834202
>>718834079
>hey let’s play dress up our dollies and kick some butt while I go off in search for my twink boyfriend who’s also a dream or some dumb shit
Blech
Anonymous No.718834165
>>718827853 (OP)
> It doesn’t have gameplay problems like 8
no, it has its own set of problems
>or pacing problems like 7.
lmao
nice side content too btw
Anonymous No.718834198 >>718834264 >>718834314
>>718834160
They wouldn’t fit up my asshole?
Anonymous No.718834202
>>718834162
As I said. Gameplay, ability and battle systems are good. The story and characters are "Dad walks in" material
Anonymous No.718834248
>>718833982
Cool, thanks for the advice. I'm also keeping my eye out for the Gilgamesh steal you suggested, cheers for that too.
Anonymous No.718834264 >>718834309
>>718834198
That's not something Yuffie would say
Anonymous No.718834309
>>718834264
True, she's a can-do girl, she'd get that materia up her ass no problem.
Anonymous No.718834314 >>718834352 >>718834373
>>718834198
I need you to say specifically what your criticism of remake is so I can say you're wrong regardless of what it is.
Anonymous No.718834329 >>718834456
>FF9 Dissidia reps
Zidane
Kuja
Freya

All you need.
>where is Vivi
too many cocks in the roster and we need more girls.
>what about garnet or-
Doesn't make my dick hard like Freya does.
Anonymous No.718834352 >>718834583
>>718834314
Morning, Jimbo
Anonymous No.718834373
>>718834314
> I need you to say specifically what your criticism of remake is so I can say you're wrong regardless of what it is.
No shit. Think this is my first day on this chickenshit board?
Anonymous No.718834405 >>718834482
>>718832115
>only thing people like from ff6 is the story
I liked suplexing a train, that's about it. Even 9 year old me saw the "plot twist" of kefka being retarded coming a mile away and almost put the game down when he interrupted our barney sunshine and rainbows time.
Anonymous No.718834407
>>718827853 (OP)
>It doesn’t have gameplay problems like 8 or pacing problems like 7.

LMAO FF9 is the worst paced game in the series.
Anonymous No.718834456
>>718834329
I can't remember but I feel that Kain didn't control great in Duodecimalpoint, I'd be worried that as another dragoon Freya would suffer the same fate.
Anonymous No.718834482 >>718834714
>>718834405
There's nothing retarded about it.
Anonymous No.718834504
>>718827853 (OP)
>gameplay problems like 8
Every ff had gameplay problems, I thought 8s gameplay was some of the better of the series. But yeah 9 was also good.
Anonymous No.718834583
>>718834352
Wow, what are the odds you'd be here in this FFIX thread at the same time someone was being grilled for criticizing VIIR?
Anonymous No.718834647
>>718827853 (OP)
9 was okay but it's objectively and technically the worst of the PS1 FF games.
>World feels even more barren than FF8
>PS1 performance was garbage, it felt like it ran at 15fps
>Steiners ankles
>Necron
Anonymous No.718834701 >>718840586
>>718833591
>Meanwhile 9's entire ost is fucking stellar
I mean sure, if you never play the game past the title screen.
Anonymous No.718834714
>>718834482
Everything is bad about it. The first half of the game is damn near pointless and kefka is a poorly written villain.
Anonymous No.718834759 >>718834932
>>718827853 (OP)
Anonymous No.718834916 >>718835202
Anonymous No.718834932 >>718835023
>>718834759
I'm surprised how many people didn't know they can set the ATB timer Fast and set the battles Wait while in submenu in configs.

The atb fill time never was the probelm for FF9 either. It was the animations and battle transistion being slower than anything from 1-8
Anonymous No.718835023 >>718835157
>>718834932
Even maxed out with Auto-Haste, it's a lethargic game. Though I do think it's a great joke that Ozma just says "fuck time bars" and gets a turn instantly whenever one of your characters does.
Anonymous No.718835045
>>718827853 (OP)
It was the least bad PS1 FF9, best I can do.
Anonymous No.718835157
>>718835023
Yes, the animations are slow and lethargic. The problem is not the ATB gauges filling but every actions taking 10 seconds too long
Anonymous No.718835202
>>718834916
There is no game with more sovl
Anonymous No.718835219
>>718827853 (OP)
>shitter with shit taste prefers generic shit
color me surprised
Anonymous No.718835453 >>718835632
Zidane
Garnet
Freya
4th slot that keeps rotating to give the others a chance

my team
Anonymous No.718835632 >>718835934
>>718835453
Zidane, Steiner, Quina, Freya

Everyone dealing unavoidable 9999 damage,
Anonymous No.718835934 >>718836610 >>718836953
>>718835632
Man fuck the conditions for Frog Drop, I've got better things to do with my time.
Anonymous No.718836284 >>718836464
Reminder that Lani gets more character development offscreen than Amarant gets onscreen.
Anonymous No.718836394 >>718836730
>be me, child
>don't want to catch frogs
>use codebreaker to set frog count to 100
>catch one frog right after getting quina
>instantly initiates a boss fight with quale
>he kills quina instantly because the game assumes you have a disc 3+ team
>hard game over
wtf
Anonymous No.718836464
>>718836284
Stop skipping the ATE
Anonymous No.718836562
>>718827853 (OP)
>"It doesn’t have gameplay problems like 8 or pacing problems like 7"
>party isn't fully customizable until disc 4 aka the final dungeon
>by then there is no content left to do except Chocobo hot and cold which doesn't involve combat outside of Ozma
>story focus also goes out the window as soon as the queen is out of the picture and coincidentally when the game stops being on-rails
IXfags don't play their own game. Almost every problem plaguing the series now can be traced from this single installment, from the excessive streamlining, focus on cinematics and the lack of content amongst many others.

The characters are pretty charming however
Anonymous No.718836576
Anonymous No.718836610 >>718836760 >>718836860
>>718835934
That reasoning can be applied to literally every fucking “ultimate weapon” in all of final fantasy. Trying to win chocobo racing in X was days of my childhood I’ll never get back. Dodging the lightening strikes too.
Anonymous No.718836730 >>718836839
>>718836394
are you lying? logically it you wouldve had to catch 9 or 10 frogs because even though you went over the limit Quale still has to go through each reward-giving scene before challenging you to battle
Anonymous No.718836760 >>718836895
>>718836610
>That reasoning can be applied to literally every fucking “ultimate weapon” in all of final fantasy.
Niggas on /v/ always single out 9 for issues that plague the series as a whole
Anonymous No.718836839 >>718836989
>>718836730
it was long ago so I don't remember it super clearly but things approximately went as I recall them, maybe I caught several but I definitely fought quale with a join-level quina and got smoked
Anonymous No.718836860
>>718836610
I guess but I really didn't care about Quina to begin with and it's also a shit minigame. Like chocobo racing was also pretty shit but not quite that bad.
Anonymous No.718836895 >>718837029
>>718836760
I always feel that if a games issue can be found in another game, it should no longer count as a criticism
Anonymous No.718836951
>>718827853 (OP)
go back to /reddit
Anonymous No.718836953
>>718835934
I got 100 frogs last playthrough, you literally spend 2 minutes catching frogs about 10-15 times, and you just leave the game idling a few times between. It was surprisingly fast and easy. Remember to leave a male and female alive
Anonymous No.718836984
FF9 has story pacing problems though. Like the entire plot being revealed in the final dungeon and a literal who final boss. Some underdeveloped characters too.
I also just don't believe 7 has any pacing problems and people just make up issues about the game to cut other FFs some slack.
However, 9 is an excellent game and way better than 8 which does have serious gameplay, story, and pacing problems that 7 and 9 don't have.
Anonymous No.718836989
>>718836839
damn. your frog-drop would be insane though (damage based on how many frogs you catch)
Anonymous No.718837000
I hate this game so much more the older I get. It's weird.
Anonymous No.718837005
>>718827853 (OP)
>pacing problems like 7.

I am not even the biggest fan of VII but pacing is specifically one of that game’s biggest strengths. Are you stupid?
Anonymous No.718837029 >>718837360
>>718836895
It you’re going to praise one game but shit on another for doing the exact same thing then it’s kind of retarded, no?
Anonymous No.718837034 >>718838192 >>718838270
>>718832432
Yes and if not then your combat system is shallow and bad or just basic and mediocre.

Game design is the king, not story, in roleplaying games there is many elements at work, you have the gameplay itself, how interactive the gameplay is, how many interactions can you do to ROLE play, can you steal? sneak? pickpocket? can you traverse the playground? how are puzzles laid out? how do you solve obstacles in your surroundings, can you bend the game rules to come up with something new?
Combat! is the combat deep, is it fun and tactical? does it reward mastery and creativity? how many spells and skills there is? what is their use and how flexiable they are? is there any synergy between items and spells? how is the enemy design, how is the boss design? how much enemy variety there is? how is the encounter designed...minigames.. etc

How is the level design? how are the dungeons , their layout and their density, exploration, how rewarding is it? how many secrets there is? how much side content you can do and how well it relates to the game, how encounters are designed and how unique they feel.

Quests..how well written they are, how do they tied up to characters or the story or the world they have built, how is the quest design, is it flexiable and dynamic or is it scripted, does it react to your stats? is there a choice element to it or its on rails?

The writing, is the writing reactive, is there choices and consequences? how the dialogue works in regards to your builds and game input, side characters and their quests if there is any.

How are the rpg elements? how much depth there is in making different builds? do they change your playstyle? how many classes and special perks there is. How is leveling and progression curve?

Story is a small thing in games, i didn't even touch on art style, presentation and music.

People who play games for the story sound moronic, maybe walking simulators like Edith Finch or Firewatch can be played for story.
Anonymous No.718837360
>>718837029
Sure, but I will do it even if another game isn't being praised. I see an issue with a game I like being brought up, and I point out that the same issue is in another game. Now the criticism no longer applies to the game I like. It's a good system.
Anonymous No.718837415 >>718838304 >>718838757 >>718840087 >>718850138
>>718833162
Final Fantasy 16 is A tier? what?

This tier list is in the context of Final Fantasy games only? or is it in the context of all games? what you put in S tier is what you think is S tier game? or S tier FF game?
Because FF2 is not a C tier game, its more like F tier.
Anonymous No.718837426
test
Anonymous No.718838126 >>718843920
>>718828716
Now imagine the PAL version, running 16% slower than even that.
I don't think I'll ever play it on real hardware ever again.
Anonymous No.718838192
>>718837034
>redd*t spacing
>blog post
>retard opinion
You know what you have to do.
Anonymous No.718838270
>>718837034
the only correct opinion
I love a good story in a game, but never should it come at the expense of gameplay.

Now if you can make it so that the story is told and influenced through gameplay, that is also great. But other than that, gameplay first.
Anonymous No.718838290
>>718832282
>>718832432
>>718832391
JRPG is a gameplay genre as well. Dragon Quest, Pokemon, and FF1/3 exist as primarily gameplay focused affairs with minimal focus on storyline within the genre. Same can be said for most SMT titles despite how much people focus on the narrative aspect of them.

The reason this is misunderstood in western circles is probably because FF is the most popular JRPG series, and the majority of the games that got brought over during its peak popularity phases (FF6-FF10) were ATB games, and thus games with shit gameplay.
Anonymous No.718838304 >>718838757
>>718837415
He’s an idiot. Don’t encourage him. FF16 is like if someone put a Chanel dress on a freshly dead prostitute. Nice to look at but ultimately useless after 5 minutes.
Anonymous No.718838372
>>718827853 (OP)
>gameplay problems
It has plenty. The equipment skill system is the worst in the series, because it make's everybody's games literally identical.

We all reach the end of the game with identical characters. Can't say the same for FF7, we could swap save files and everyone will have different materia setups.
Anonymous No.718838626 >>718838813
>>718827853 (OP)
This is literally one of my least favorite Final Fantasy games.

>Monkey Boy
>Rhino Girls
>Rat Lady
>Cannibalistic Frog Woman

It's like a journey with a traveling freakshow. Steiner (and maybe Amarant) are the only two normal characters in the game. I don't know what Vivi is, but that dude gets a pass, cause he's really chill.
Anonymous No.718838757 >>718840065
>>718837415
>>718838304
Narcissistic solipsists when they encounter someone who has a different opinion.
Anonymous No.718838813 >>718839165
>>718838626
not a 90's kid? characters with animal heads is popuplar with 90's kids. unfortunately furfaggots ruined it for everyone so now its weird to like those kind of chracters even though youre not a furry.
Anonymous No.718839165
>>718838813
>not a 90's kid?
Nah, 80s here. I do get what you're saying though. I just have a really hard time relating with the characters.

>unfortunately furfaggots ruined it for everyone so now its weird to like those kind of chracters even though youre not a furry.
This is also true.
Anonymous No.718839673
post the rats feet
Anonymous No.718840065 >>718840889
>>718838757
>narcissistic
This word has been overused by midwits and women so much that it is essentially meaningless. If you’re so fragile that someone disagreeing with your opinions sends you into an autistic tard rage maybe you should stop doing so.
Anonymous No.718840087
>>718837415
I like XVI, had a lot of fun with it despite its many flaws. Could probably go in B but I just finished replaying it and had a good time.
Anonymous No.718840586 >>718841529
>>718834701
Bitch nigger, Steiner's theme alone BTFOs most of the X's ost.
Anonymous No.718840889
>>718840065
I don't like ff16, I still think you'd have to be incredibly narcissistic to not understand why others might.
Anonymous No.718841529
>>718840586
Terra’s Theme from 6 is the GOAT and anyone that disagrees is a buttfucking philistine.
Anonymous No.718842786 >>718843749
>>718827853 (OP)

I do think it is the best but i would argue every FF from the PS1 era was great and VI and X were also pretty good. I don´t think one needs to belittle those titles to argue for IX´s greatness.

IX has a great unique world full of exotic locations with unique races, cultures and architectural designs (giving the world a real sense of scale) truly fantastic music with themes like Roses of May, Eternal Harvest, You are not alone and many others, a great main cast of very distinct characters (Garnet, Zidane, Steiner and Vivi) with unique personalities that are transformed by the events of the story, great supporting characters that are also fleshed out thanks to those active time events like Beatrix, a great antagonist with strong motivations like Kuja.

Characters having assigned jobs is great too and the skill system is not unnecessarily convoluted in any way. Plus most sidequests and challenges are actually fun. It´s just a great experience all around.
Anonymous No.718843685
First few times playing PS1 Final Fantasy: Wow this is cool and unique!
Playing PS1 Final Fantasy now: Wow, why does it take 6 hours to start the game!?
Anonymous No.718843749
>>718842786
Thanks for such a fair and reasonable post, bizarro-/v/ bot!
Anonymous No.718843920
>>718838126
>running 16% slower
Thats fucking brutal damn.
Anonymous No.718844863 >>718847959 >>718849718 >>718857264
Garnet’s butt in 4k and with ray tracing
Anonymous No.718847135
>>718827853 (OP)
My favorite ff it as soul
Anonymous No.718847959
>>718844863
This would be good
Anonymous No.718849203
>>718833538
Vamo alla Flamenco, Crossing Those Hills, Black Mage Village, both combat themes
Anonymous No.718849718 >>718857264
>>718844863
that would be an instant buy for me.
Anonymous No.718850000 >>718850226 >>718850293
>doesn't have gameplay problems
>trance being worse than every lb/da system
>unnecessary battle intros
>get atb locked by a remotely fast boss immediately killing a party member the second you revive them even with healing already queued
>skill system is just a checklist where you will only be using debuff prevention unless you grind the everliving fuck out of the game
Anonymous No.718850138 >>718854087
>>718837415
FF2 is good though, there are multiple non broken iterations of the game
Anonymous No.718850226 >>718852021
>>718850000
>only be using debuff prevention
>not using buffs
ngmi
Anonymous No.718850293
>>718850000
The remake has stuff to speed up combat. I can't go back to OG now.
Anonymous No.718852021
>>718850226
>spend 1/4th your stones on auto life for necron
>entire party gets berserked/silenced anyway
Anonymous No.718852885 >>718853152
But my favorite Youtube essayist said the battles are too slow so the game is bad, it just is okay?!
Anonymous No.718853089
Has the best music

https://youtu.be/ADgLi67mwT0?si=r0bP_8qO1b3vbDUM
Anonymous No.718853152
>>718852885
The battle are sluggish, though. I thought that they were pretty unbearable and I played the game when it was new. FF7 and 8 had very quick battles as long as you didn't spam long summons.
Anonymous No.718854087 >>718854489
>>718850138
FF2 sucks even when it isn't broken
Anonymous No.718854489 >>718854550 >>718860871
>>718854087
Why?
Anonymous No.718854550
>>718854489
It just does
Anonymous No.718854976
>>718828772
The FF games are comfy but there's something about classic JRPG design that captures our soft post WW2 world. Disney fairy tales for millenial/zoomer crowd, a world of make believe that you can not only watch but interact with and be the hero of the disney fantasy. Maybe a reflection of the people in our all too peaceful no big war world where death comes before happy endings for most of the human experience. Crazy to think a little over a hundred years ago you were sent to one of the biggest human grinder wars, WW1 before your brain even developed fully and we have 20 and 30 somethings nowadays arguing about what disney fairy tale world was better or flaws of these interactive make believe virtual realities. I would argue dudebro military shooters are more fulfilling for youth in terms of video games because it prepares you for the reality of war and death violence and the study of weapons to dispatch other humans from the material plane with no high fantasy disney magic that is better suited for elementary school aged kids.
Anonymous No.718856372 >>718856623
>>718827853 (OP)
My biggest problem with 7 wasn't the pacing it was that the mini games had incosistent quality between them and some of the parts I liked the most probably came down to translation errors, also I didn't like Yuffie that much, maybe it's because I'm playing Rebirth and I'm realizing she's kind of cringe but ye.

Gameplay was my favorite part of FF8, my biggest problem was that we set up all these characters and start fleshing them out and I feel like that all changes to chase after ultimecia, it's no longer a game about Squall realizing he's actually the leader of these scared kids thrusted into a conflict they don't entirely understand and it becomes about Ultimecia and Squall's relationship with Rinoa, I would like it more if it built that stuff around those initial ideas.


My biggest problem with 9 was the story being unstatsfying, it felt like I was being jerked around and manipulated into caring about the plot points I didn't care about and basically being told to gloss over the stuff I actually cared about like burmecia bein nuked, Vivi making more black mages, Steiner's character development, Freya's relationship with Zidane, Beatrix's redemption or even Amarant turning his shit around.

The story should've been about Vivi and fleshing out the cast before it was about saving the world. The world matters but it isn't all that matters, I'd much rather these people make me give a shit about Quina who just acts like an idiot most of the time instead of trying to make me care Terra, Zidanes origin story or the crystals or the merging of the planets or whatever, I don't fucking care, I don't care I do not care about that or necron, I never will.

I like that feeling when you just want to play all the characters in your party but I didn't get that in FF9 at all, Freya was my favorite and I didn't even like her that much. Just Setzer alone is more fleshed out than most of the FF9 cast with way less screen time.
Anonymous No.718856623
>>718856372
Fraya was my second favorite to Vivi*
Anonymous No.718856682 >>718857561
This the ratfucker game?
Anonymous No.718857264 >>718857538 >>718857803 >>718858168
>>718844863
>>718849718
ethics department will nerf her
Anonymous No.718857538
>>718857264
But what if they don’t?
Anonymous No.718857561 >>718857657
>>718827853 (OP)
>>718856682
ratto seggs
Anonymous No.718857657 >>718858069 >>718859352
>>718857561
Worship her feet
Anonymous No.718857803
>>718857264
They know the game's success hinges on it, they wouldn't dare
Anonymous No.718858069 >>718859389
>>718857657
Anonymous No.718858168
>>718857264
Well considering in-game she has nothing, they'll just implement that again.
Anonymous No.718858189 >>718858241
>>718827853 (OP)
Dogshit designs and bad combat? The all around best FF? Lol
Anonymous No.718858241
>>718858189
you retarded or something?
Anonymous No.718859352 >>718859389
>>718857657
Made for footrubs
Anonymous No.718859389
>>718858069
>>718859352
Yes
Anonymous No.718860871
>>718854489
The whole game is needlessly repetitive and tedious. Raising stats instead of levels means you get punished for trying anything new, every dungeon has a gorillion trap rooms, and other concepts like the keyword system don't add anything interesting in 99% of cases.