Thread 718895641

Will this game live to the hype?

Yes

>>718895641 (OP)
Can I skip Hollow Knight and play this one instead? Or should I beat Hollow Knight first.

>female protagonist
lmao
nice hollow knight you got there

>>718896292
it's a fucking bug, who cares

>>718895641 (OP)
Yes
This is not a cope or blind faith assertion. This is an informed opinion based on several factors.

1. 2D metroidvanias are piss easy to make and hard to do wrong. Evidence: Ender Lillies. By all metrics EL is like a fucking 6 or maybe if you are insanely generous a 7/10 paint by numbers metroidvania and faggots here praise it to high heaven like it is god's gift to gaming. The floor and cieling for metroidvanias are low as shit.

2. The most important element in a metroidvania is movement. We have a good enough sample size of released footage to already see how the movement feels and performs. It's a straight upgrade over HK. Hornet to the Knight is like comparing nightreign player mobility to DeS player mobility. Mobility discussion continues in 3.

3. Upgrades also are key ingredients in metroidvanias. Silksong is confirmed to have Crests and tools and probably has charms too. Tools are just an added bonus for buffs and alternate attack potential. Crests are far more interesting. Crests are an extension of movement as different crests appear to alter Hornet's basic attacks themselves. This goes as far as adjusting dive angles and pogo exit angles. What crest yoy choose to use will have an effect on how Hornet feels to control especially in the air. And Silksong appears to be a very aerial focused game even going as far as to use the descriptor "acrobatic" in its few chosen adjectives.

4. The map is claimed to be just as big as Hallownest. This claim checks out because there are over 40 bosses which is on par with HK. It would be much harder to design a map of that size to be linear than to be open ended. It is quite literally too large to be linear. Some people praise TC for their genius map design in HK and what they don't understand is that it is moreso an emergent phenomenon from having a large interconnected world than a planned for design decision. Other metroidvania creators just don't have what it takes to design so many areas.

>>718895641 (OP)
No because that fucking bastard Mel Gibson killed my beautiful wife for no fucking reason FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

>>718895641 (OP)
Of course. It doesn't need to do much than be Hollow Knight 2.

HOLY FFFVVVAAARRK

For people that just want more Hollow Knight? Yes.
For people that have spent 7 years building it up to be a transcendent mythological experience? Also yes.

>>718897215
>2D metroidvanias are piss easy to make
why did this one took so long then?

>>718896291
Silksong will have callbacks to Hollow Knight. If you don't care about that, then feel free to skip it.

>>718897445
because its made by a small team and its hand drawn. theres a reason why 2d sprite fighters all swapped to 3d.

>>718896291
beat hollow knight first to get used to how the game plays, it's story telling and its mechanics

>>718897445
I said easy, I said nothing about how long it takes to make one. Hand drawing a whole world and maintaining your passion to go to work and grind when you already have set for life money is admirable. Other indie devs have done far less in far more time after achieving financial independence. Where's Blowjob's block pushing game?

>>718897339
god, kickstarter backer shit is always so cringe. Glad there wont' be any in SS

>>718895641 (OP)
Hype doesn't matter, I just want more hollow knight.

>>718897339
I want kill whoever the backer is

yeah. it will sell well, review well, everywhere you look there will be a seemingly endless amounts of praise, but everybody you talk to irl will express something a little less glowing. eventually you will have to choose to believe your lying eyes, or not.

>>718895641 (OP)
Lol the first game was very overrated and overstayed its welcome now you telling me we are doing more of the same thing with more content its going to get old fast just like the first one

>>718895641 (OP)
>enemies have sex while beating the shit out of horneyt
GOTD

>>718897637
>HOW SILKSONG CURED MY DEPRESSION (58:30)

>>718897215
>1. 2D metroidvanias are piss easy to make and hard to do wrong.
No actual metroidvania fan would say this.
There are a shitton of mediocre-to-bad metroidvanias on Steam.
They are in fact very easy to fuck up and many indie developers have done so.
Even Metroid and Castlevania have fucked up a couple times.

>>718897983
Castlevania has never made a good one, but that doesn't mean they aren't easy as hell to make.

>>718897837
So the devs just played Gunvolt 2 and put Mirror Zonda in the game. Based of them to do so.

>try to get those steel soul achievements
>get to Hollow Knight
>
You know what, doesn't really matter. I was just doing this to warmup and I've warmed up now. Pantheon is the real challenge, and I can still do that.
Steel Soul is for tryhards anyway.

>>718898346
>Castlevania has never made a good one
Imagine being this much of a contrarian holy fuck

>>718897215
Ender Lillies is better than Hollow Knight.

>>718895641 (OP)
Yeah

>>718898852
just save and quit out

>>718898852
Steelsoul is way way easier than pantheon. Just don't play like a dumbass and get tier 2 spells when you can. I did a steel soul run on a whim after not touching the game in over 2 years. I've never even gotten close to beating pantheon 5. I haven't even beaten NKG lol.

>>718899163
can a brother get a qrd on the best metroidvanias released during the last 4 years?

>>718898980
Name one good castlevania boss fight. There's a reason bloodstained is such dogshit and the sequel is a get what you deserve situation. Great music. Terrible everything else.

>>718899405
Nine sols
Prince of persia and the lost crown

That's it. That's the list. Blasphemous 2 was ass. Their new ninja gaidan game was the best thing they have made, even better than blasphemous 1, but it isn't a metroidvania. Tevi was a disaster of a disappointment. Can't remember if Dread is 4 years old or not.

Other than map design nine sols is the current reigning undisputed king of all metroidvanias and there isn't even any competition.

Now that Mina the Hollower and Silksong are coming soon, Which video game will be the next clown game that will leave fans waiting?

>>718899814
kingdom hearts 4

>>718899901
We can put the clown nose and wig on Sora now. And why will Kingdom Hearts 4 be the clown who replaces Silksong?

>>718891858

Yes, I'm quite certain it will. No qualifiers.

>>718900017
>announced over 3 years ago
>one trailer with "gameplay" and nothing else
>only screenshots since then
it's starting to shape up to be the next clown

>>718898852
It's fucking easy. I did it on Switch and am doing a steel soul run just to get these last two achievements for the steam version.
I'm way worse than I used to be lmao, I just died on Soul Tyrant XD

>>718900287
It wouldn't be strange at all if Kingdom Hearts 4 were the next clown. Even more so considering the time that passes between KH2 and KH3.

>>718896291
Reddit Knight is a very generic metroidvania, you can skip it.

>>718900494
>we'll finally see why she has that one sprite
Can't wait.

12 days remaining bros. How are you passing the time?

>>718896925
she's azn? day one buy desu

>>718900694
Getting the last two steel soul cheevos for the steam version. (Got them on Switch)

>>718900694
In 3 or 4 days, I'll be playing SRW Y till the game comes out.

>>718900494
spoil that, this is a blue board

>>718899405
Most people don't know it exists around here, but Afterimage is a fantastic, beefy, visually forgettable Metroidvania.

>>718901083
Can I get a qrd on this series? where do I start on PC?
Also is gundam battle alliance any good?
thanks in advance

>>718897215
good post, 100% on the money. metroidvania is a fast food genre like fps where the average quality is okay, but every now and then one game comes along that's tasty as hell. Hollow Knight was one of those, and Silksong will be a gourmet meal.

>>718900694
I finally have an excuse to sharpen my art skills. I haven't drawn anything Hollow Knight for years.

Given how all the dev time was apparently adding minor details, I wonder how many Menderbug equivalents we get.
Relatedly, I forgot how much of a psychopath the knight is.

>>718900694
never got around doing the godhome content so I'm slowly making my way through it
how bad is the last pantheon? 40+ bosses back to back sounds exhausting desu

>>718896925
genuine question: I keep seeing people say shes a bug. Why is she a bug and what kind of bug is she?

>>718895641 (OP)
yeah and it will save this shit year in gaming and make all the e33 bots that shat up /v for months seethe

of course it still wont win goty because its a bullshit award that would never give goty to a 2d game

>>718895641 (OP)
Yes

>>718901435
she's a mutt, cross between a spider and a godlike being

>>718901601
ohh I thought she was supposed to be a beetle or something kek

>>718901601
So why is she named Hornet

>>718901432
If you could do the other pantheons, you can do the last one. It's just exhausting
The last three or four will be a bitch though. Practice them thoroughly when you can. It's there for a reason

>>718901673
because she sting bad like a hornet

>>718895641 (OP)
No. But it'll still be pretty good and a worthy sequel to Hollow Knight and that's the important thing.

i think i stopped at 106%, i cant be arsed to finish it

>>718901169
>Can I get a qrd on this series?
Basically it's a Turn-based SRPG series based around the Mecha genre. There are two kinds of SRW games, OG (original generation) and the crossover games that features series like franchises like Mazinger Z, Getter Robo, Gundam, and the like. The gameplay is simple but where the game shines (at least in the crossover games) is the animations for battles and use of a world specifically made for a series to co-exist with each other. For example in SRW 30 and iirc T, Ryoma (from Getter Robo), Kouji Kabuto (Mazinger Z), and Amuro Ray where all friends in the OYW from Gundam 0079 and work to fight off Zeon and other villains like Dr. Hell at the time. As for the animations I'll just link some for you since they speak for themselves. As for where to start, I recommand starting with the games that are easy to get in eng like 30 or one of V,T, or X. I You should also look into emulating some of the older games with eng translations like W (one of my favorites in the series.
Some of the animations you can find in the SRW games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGmxtEyPvKI&t=
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fDxeYn7ewg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrfwWwbNKbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be7fy0H6AlI
>Also is gundam battle alliance any good?
I haven't played it myself but a friend of mine did and loved it. So you should go for it if you are a big fan of Gundam.

>>718895641 (OP)
Someone paid them $540 to get it released

>>718899693
I spent 50 hours getting through the final boss on nine sols and I barely remember playing the game, but I don't need to buy Cornifer's maps anymore when I replay HK. Completely forgettable parry-slop.

>>718902603
>retarded shitskin tranny is retarded and will never be a woman
Many such cases i fear.....

>>718895641 (OP)
No

>>718895641 (OP)
Prob yeah as its just a reskin of HK with new zones and new mechs. Not that hard to get it to work. Not gonna be like GTA.

>>718901435
Everything in hollow knight are bugs and worms, it's a tiny kingdom of bugs.
Hornet is a cross between a spider and a god-worm thing.

Why is Team Cherry edging us with the price?

>>718901673
They were going to have some lore in the game where she got trained for battle by the bee kingdom, and I guess that's her nom de guerre. That lore never made it in and I'm not sure if there's an actual reason.

>>718903768
>new mechs
>In a setting that goes more into fantasy then Sci-fi.
So devs watched Magic Knight Rayearth, The Vision of Escaflowne, and Dunbine? Neat.

>>718903981
They're also edging us with the explicit time of release. Aussie land has fucked up nonsense time too. Are they 1 day ahead of the civilized world or 1 day behind? Who knows.

>>718904254
>Who knows.
SteamDB.
The real unknown is why they timed their announcement video for midnight their time, but then announced the release date in primarily US time.

>>718904390
>10 am my time
Perfect.

>>718900443
>Reddit Knight is a very generic Metroidvania
>Shills for skipping it to play silksong, made by the same people, in the same world, as a sequel to the original game.
???? Are you just a sheep who got pulled into the hype without actually enjoying the first game?

I hope it doesn't launch with a boss rush pantheon...

i'm just excited to see more of hollow knight's world
i love the world building

>>718907385
>complain about how piss easy the game is
>devs add an extra ending locked behind an insane boss rush
I was humbled...

>>718895641 (OP)
It's not hype, just an internet meme.

>>718895641 (OP)
Controversal take, if they've actually worked on it this whole time it could have too much stuff to do and end up played out. Saying that, they can't really fuck it up. They could've just rereleased Hollow Knight again and people would've eaten it up, the original is still good and after a decade it'd be fresh even if it was 100% the same

>>718895641 (OP)
No, the devs shat it out for a quick buck. It will sell well at first because of the brand name, but one month later everyone will admit it was trash.

>>718895641 (OP)
No, nothing will.

I didnt hype it, so I'm going to enjoy it much more then people looking forward to it for years :)

>>718895641 (OP)
No. Team Cherry is too scared to give journalists early access because their game is obviously garbage.

>>718895641 (OP)
>game promises to be more Hollow Knight but you play as Hornet
I'm going to go with "yes", it's going to deliver exactly that

>>718896292
The Hollow Knight was a bossfight in the first game, not the protagonist

>>718901902
What the hell why am I laughing at this stupid shit

>>718895641 (OP)
i can see normalfags roped into the hype trying it and getting filtered, but for actual fans all it needs to be is hollow knight 2
due to how little we saw of the game there isn't much to overhype over besides "more hollow knight"

i'm pirating anyway so it's not like i have any stakes, if it sucks i'll shitpost for a bit and then stop caring about it

100%.

All I want is more Hollow Knight.

>>718911805
>i can see normalfags roped into the hype trying it and getting filtered,
Surely there aren't people who are going to play this completely blind when the original has been out for so long

>>718895641 (OP)
Probably

>>718913319
they're normalfags

>>718899405
Ender Magnolia is by far the best metroidvania I've ever played.

>>718897215
Low IQ post from someone who doesn't actually understand why Metroidvania's are good. The fact that in this entire post you don't even once mention exploration proves you have no idea what you're talking about. Ender Lilies is not a 6/10. It's an 8/10 minimum because it has really fucking good exploration. Plenty of bad Metroidvanias such because they fail to make captivating exploration. The genre lives and dies by how fun the world is to explore. Combat is irrelevant, movement is irrelevant. It's 100% exploration.

>>718900694
Studying for acceptance exams to an EE university. If I get in, I will go coma mode and play nothing but Silksong to celebrate. I will probably still do that if I don't, but I will feel bad about it.
Wish me luck /v/ros, it's in 3 days.

It'll be nice to play it on day 1 and not having guides, just wandering around and discovering things and posting them in the threads that will happen.

>>718913319
I hope its easy, there i said it. You can all hate on me. The post game stuff (that i didn't do) seemed to revel in being hard for Hollow Knight. I hope they don't just expect that standard. Would be funny if it just started at arse-rape tier but not for me, i hope its Hollow Knight level difficulty

>>718913742
I don't think HK was particularly difficult for it's bosss and had a nice fair challenge until you get to the Pantheons. They are by far the worst thing in the entire game. They aren't fun. They aren't interesting. It's like the devs just went "what is the worst way we could implement an end game challenge mode" and did that. There are countless ways of having fun optional challenges but they went for the shittiest.

>>718913742
I liked the difficulty level of normal HK content. I got all the cheevos except p5 and the 2 steel soul ones cause fuck that shit. Didn't do path of pain either. I hope Silksong is about on par, I'm ok with it getting harder for the super optional extra content.

>>718913738
Good luck!

>>718913863
>>718913831
>>718913742
Hollow Knight was as successful as it is because it had tier to it's difficulty. Like think about it.

>basic bitch mode to normal end - the hardest boss you'll ever fight are the watcher knights
>moderate difficulty to true end - White Palace and the Radiance
>assfuck difficulty with all the DLC
Basically no matter what your skill level there was an ending you could shoot for. I'm actually sad Silksong probably won't have a Godhome equivalent.

>>718914319
It will eventually just not on release. Though to reiterate I think regardless of your love of difficulty and skill level I think the Pantheon's suck and could have been way more fleshed out beyond it just being a lazy boss gauntlet with no real meaningful mechanical additions. Or at least the 5th one specifically. I could accept the first 4 but the final Hallownest one was just way too long.

>>718897339
this kind of thing in a full-game release in modern times is actually based as fuck
I'm not saying I want more of it, but it does bring a smile to my face.

>>718914439
the worst crime the pantheons did was gray knight zote being included in p5 only if you fought him in the main game. Zote being an extremely annoying boss to fight.
T-thanks, team cherry...

>>718914560
Nah the final Pantheon should have had the same number of bosses as the other 4 but just all the hardest ones. Making you fight the same boring early shitter bosses was not fun and shouldn't have been in the gauntlet since they are basically impossible to die against and serve only to drag it out.

>>718914606
Yeah, and then there could be a mode where each pantheon chains directly to the next upon completion.

>>718895641 (OP)
SEX WITH MY GIRLFRIEND (male), PHANTOM, WHILST HORNET WATCHES.

>>718914606
i think its good
you shouldnt be worried about the drag, youre supposed to be ready to beat it in one shot after preparing in hall of gods
the small bosses are fun from the perspective of doing PoH as intended and it adds rooms for random surprises such as sisters of battle and tiso

and after playing all bindings which is where it actually has a problem, i really feel like it made me learn so many cool tricks to optimize my damage output all across the game. Yeah it was a painful chore at times but it has its upsides

>>718913606
What are you talking about Lilies has dogshit exploration.

Do you think a metroidvania where the main gimmick is the ability to fly can be done right?
I'm tired of precision platforming and really want something different.

>>718917560
there's one where you swim (flying is like swimming in the air) so I don't see why not

>>718917560
Aquaria

>>718917560
Well it's swimming not flying but there's Aquaria, which is like the granddaddy of indie metroidvanias.

>>718917560
You're a submarine in Porgy so i guess. Ultimately a metroidvania is about limiting player movement so i guess you need some other trick if you can fly though

>>718896291
this is a prequel, so it will be fine to start with this
>>718895641 (OP)
it will overdo the hype

>>718897617
anon, one of the Kickstarter rewards was a backer-designed village which was ultimately scrapped from HK but will be in SIlksong

>No review copies
>No price meaning the game will cost $80
>Bullying small devs (already 3 indie games got delayed because of Silksong)
>Strong and independent woman protagonist
>Making fun of men
>Tranny programmer

>>718918468
Yup, it's GOTY time

>>718900694
Pantheon 5
Fuck Markoth

>>718897617
Bro some of the most memorable NPCs in HK were from backers LMAO

>>718900694
Playing Abiotic Factor

About 15 mins into Hollowknight. How am I supposed to enjoy this indie trash when I've played and enjoyed -

All the Megaman X games
Every Castlevania
Half the Metroids
Flashback
Blackthorne
Earthworm Jim
Metal Warriors
Bonk's Adventure (Gameboy)

This game feels like a palate cleanser for League of Legends addicts with fried nerve endings

>>718895641 (OP)
I'm optimistic. It sounds like they just made a really huge game, and that's why it took so long.

>>718897215
Praising it doesn't mean it's perfect. EL is one of my favourite metroidvanias but it's definitely not flawless as proven by its successor that improved basically every aspect of the gameplay while screwing up some other things however. If any metroidvania gets way too much praise it's HK.

>>718904390
it's going to unlock at mignight no matter where you are

New Zealand will get to play it first, as usual. it always goes like this

>>718904390
>9 AM U.S. central
Baller.
>>718919526
Almost all Steam releases are synced, not rolling.

>>718895641 (OP)
It will be 8/10 at best and the "fans" and bugfuckers will pretend it's a 10/10 for years to come.

>>718918423
>this is a prequel
Source? Hornet will probably end up pretty OP at the end of the game, so it'd be odd for her to end up jobbing to the first knight encounter in Hallownest.

This made yurifags cry like anime fans on prom night.

>>718920869
Come on lad, it's obviously a chunk of sticky wet shart he pulled out of his ass.
It's always been a direct sequel.

what are the chances of hornet being able to get different cloaks

>>718921267
15%

Will this game also require a guide to get the true ending because everyone speaks in fucking riddles?

>>718921374
Just explore the game dummy

>>718921267
100% with modding

>>718895641 (OP)
I haven't looked at much of the available footage, but it seems like more of the same honestly.
Except this time:
1.they had more time to make it and perfect it
2.more money too
3.they had the know how from the first one
HK was a good game, Silksong will probably a very good game.

>>718896925
A lot of trannies and gurl gaymers seem to care to the point of obsession.

>>718921374
Didn't the true end of HK just require max exploration percentage?

>>718921443
That was always the old winning formula.
New game was old game + way more content and improvements.
Oddworld did it perfectly with Exoddus from Oddysee.

>>718899693
Just pirated switch version of Prince of Persia. After 3 hours, I can say that It is surprisingly good. Although it took some time to configure controls and there are some minor visual glitches with in-game screenshots you put on the map. Maybe there is a way to fix it, but it doesn't really bother me that much.
Would've probably bought steam version if it didn't have Ubisoft connect issues everyone complaining about in reviews and denuvo framerate debuff

>>718921443
>it seems like more of the same
I keep seeing people use this as a criticism (not saying you are) and I just wonder what they fucking expected? An entire genre shift? 4D transcendental gameplay that permanently redefines your life? Like yeah, it's a 2D Metroidvania, it's going to look and play a lot like the game it's a sequel to with a bigger scope and refinements. That's what people wanted.

So the PC version is the ideal version right?

Because HK got an insane amount of mods over the years.

>>718921450
Not even, all you need is 4 things.
>Dreamers defeated (needed for basic ending)
>Awakened Dreamnail (1800 Essence, max is 2400)
>Kingsoul (half behind Dreamnail, half on a boss over in Queen's Gardens)
>King's Brand
Then you go skinnydipping down in the Abyss to convert the Kingsoul and go win.

>>718895641 (OP)
Replaying HK currently. I just want the same thing with a bigger budget, expanded mechanics and levels. Would be cool to get a new HK game every 3 years, but it's fine. Hope they'll support Silksong for a while and we'll get some DLCs for a year or two.

how does Pharloom even exist if Hallownest is supposed to be 'the last and only kingdom' anyway?

>>718921723
It means they didn't shake up the formula at all (from what it seems, the game isn't out so I don't know yet). Doesn't have to be an entire genre shift, but only one significant change in one aspect can change the whole game.
Some games evolve through iterations, some games evolve through a new formula. There's no wrong answer, just different methods.

>>718901902
Maybe more... Imagine...

>>718922110
They've said they have a lot of ideas for post-launch content for years to come.

I'm genuinely scared that I might not be able to go back to HK after playing Silksong.

>>718922172
If this game's a prequel then that's explanation enough. If it's a sequel either nobody knew about it or it popped up later.

>>718922229
Or Hallownest being "The last and only civilization" was just Pale King propaganda.

>>718922276
Yeah that's also true. The last kingdom shit could have been bullshit in the first place. Now that I think about it did they ever actually say what happened to every other country? It's been ages since I played HK.

>>718895641 (OP)
Fans will convince themselves it does regardless of its quality. If I had to guess it’s going to be too similar to Hollow Knight to be a truly goated game but it will review well

>tfw accidently saved Cloth by killing the Mantis Lord before finding her in ancient basin
>tfw didn't kill bug girl in the crystal mines and canonically she lives with the Radiance blight purged
Alas, I could not save Bretta, the poor girl succumbed to THAT FUCKING WANKER Zote's lies and somehow didn't realise that he was lying about the Knight too, and left forever to probably die in the wastes.
Fuck Zote, I hope he doesn't show up in Silksong and if he does I hope to fuck that we can kill him, he's the biggest scumfuck narcissist wanker.

>>718897215
AI post but it’s right

>>718922424
You can just leave him to die, anon.

>>718922172
That's simple.
Pharloom is not a kingdom, it's just a location.

>>718922496
Yes, but that would mean restarting the entire thing, and canonically I'm fairly certain Zote lives which implies that he's been able to whisper his SCUMFUCK LIES into Bretta's ears.

>>718922172
The Pale King was just full of himself and thought no one could live without his light.

>>718922613
>haunted
Sounds like a Kingdom that used to exist but now is inhabited by spooks.

>>718922572
>and canonically I'm fairly certain Zote lives
No, if you leave him to get eaten you can go back and his corpse is right where you left him, you can even knock his head around if I remember correctly.

>>718922702
Yeah but I'm talking canon to the devs ideas. Each ending is equally canon to them, but I don't know if that applies to characters and given the Sealed Siblings ending that's obviously not canon given that Hornet is in Silksong and it's a sequel, so that lays doubt for what's canon as to choices in game.

>>718922680
Nope it's a living thriving kingdom only just beginning to face a crisis. Probably why the game took so long. Harder to make a living world than yet another dead kingdom fallen to empty ruins.

>>718922814
>canon
Anon, you can canonically leave him for dead. I don't see what's so hard to understand here. I get you're terrified of him being in Silksong, but he won't be. Screencap this.

>>718922374
I actually think they did enough to differentiate it from hollow knight

Like a dark souls v bloodborne situation

>>718922887
>tfw choices carry over
I wish. I would replay HK again just to kill Zote so he doesn't show up if he might in SS due to him living in HK.

>>718922912
Yeah the way she moves looks like it will feel really different from the Knight and all the new combat options plus healing and skills being tied to different meters will do a lot to differentiate things never mind all the new customisation options we're going to get. I think it'll be fine.

i will 112% it and then never touch it again just like hollow knight

>>718922912
I think Silksong will be to HK what Dark Souls 3 was to 1. Pic related will be Bloodborne's

>>718921267
0%

>>718923062
I don't think it will have a 112% since the extra 12% was DLC that got added later.

>>718923146
>yfw all the DLC adds 150% completion

>>718923075
Dark Souls 3 is just Dark Souls with Bloodborne bosses, a billion references, and no real armor system though.

>>718923576
the armor system is best in DaS3

>>718895641 (OP)
No but it'll still be great.

>>718896291
I'll never understand bandwagon freaks like you.

>>718897215
>Some people praise TC for their genius map design
Would not want to meet those people

>>718922221
The lushness of Moss Grotto alone showed me this, Silksong looks so much better

how can a metroidvania possibly fail

>>718923950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nx23gKJs8Y

>>718923951

Axion Verge 2 sucked and flopped.

>tranny dev
Lol.

.

Was there ever a Hollow Knight thread on /vg/?
/v/ will probably be horrible a for a month at least

>>718924292
oh shit wrong thread

>>718924114
What a Ghibliesque serenity

>>718900694
i will have college to keep me busy until it releases. Luckily it is relesing early enough in the semester that i can take the weekend off to paly ti

>>718922192
>It means they didn't shake up the formula at all (from what it seems, the game isn't out so I don't know yet).
its going for a significantly faster/more dynamic player character with quicker healing and shit, and has faster enemies to compensate too. sheer gameplay wise thats a pretty large change of pace
and then theres all the tools and the unlockable alternate movesets, and the towns being much more involved this time around

all things considered it seems like a pretty different sequel

>>718924297
Yes.

HK got fucking banished to /vg/ because /v/ couldnt shut up about it and effectively died because it was a singleplayer game. Jannies sre retarded.

>>718924452
tbf this board couldn't shut up about Nine Sols for a while when it first came out either

>>718923075
>pic
Whatever happened to crowsworn anyway?

>reinstall
>try all bindings pantheons
>die to mawlek in the first one
>uninstall
ill wait for silksong, i got reminded that for every 7 fantastic bosses in HK there is always one pile of shit

>>718923075
Silksong will be Dark souls 2 of the genre

>>718925256
I'm excited to see how much of a step up the bosses will be.

Today, I remind them:
Salt and Sanctuary was the best metroidvania.

>>718924430
Meh, faster movement is hardly a significant change. Utlimately it doesn't change how the game plays significantly. It's just an iteration so obviously there's gonna be some changes. It's just more and better done, but there's no real new game changing mechanic.
Take a game like Darkest Dungeon and its sequel, both are the same genre, both share a lot of similarities and mechanics, but 2 completely changed the dungeon crawling mechanic. In this instance it is an iteration which shook up in a significant way how the game plays.

>>718925741
just from trailer alone i can tell most of them more like horny/grimm/hollow knight than markoth or zote

>>718922110
I refused to kill myla in the probably vain hope that the radiance's hold over her would wain after it's death.

>>718922276
>>718922328
It's almost outright said to be bullshit just because of the other characters that show up. Cloth, Iselda, Cornifer, Tiso, and the whole Grimm Troupe are all from other lands. I believe Bardoon also predates Hallownest.

>>718925157
They have semi regular updates on kickstarter and twitter.
Basically, they are suffering from scope creep, thanks to all the extra money they've received from Kickstarter. Crowsworn basic ass enemies get up to 120 frames of animations across multiple states, are very detailed too, multiple layers and effects, handpainted shadows, effects etc. Comparatively, Silksong has like 10 frames per enemy and is extremely simply drawn.

>>718926979
>Ebert rolling in his grave at the artwork that will be Crowsworn

>>718922276
it'd be funnier if the game ended with hornet wiping silksongworld off the map for some reason

>>718926147
Yeah and DD2 is dogshit for it. Wouldn't even call it a sequel in any way.

Silksong has enough differences from HK to potentially avoid that sequel pitfall.

>>718926979

Ari is pretty smart and efficient with his animations after all

>>718926147
Isn't Darkest Dungeon 2 considered worse than 1?

>>718926147
Wasn't Darkest Dungeon 2 received rather poorly? Never played it but I remember seeing the threads.

>>718926147
>Meh, faster movement is hardly a significant change. Utlimately it doesn't change how the game plays significantly.
Bro that's like the difference between classic megaman and the X series overhauling the movement is one of the biggest changes you can make for a platformer

>>718927253
>>718927308
Yeah it is worse. It was just an example of devs who wanted to do more than just "more of the same".
If you want you can use Zelda, which has (mostly) good games. Within the same series you have iterations (BotW, TotK), but also different formulas (2d formula, OoT formula, BotW formula, etc..). All those games are Zelda games, share the same genre (action-adventure with a bit of rpg), share tons of similarities, but are still significantly different from each other. So you can't always call it more of the same here.
HK was released ago, had they kept making one every year like CoD, fifa, or whatever other yearly games there is, with the same formula everytime it would get stale very fast.

>>718899405
>>718901127
as a big MV fan, yeah it's nine sols and afterimage.
also blasphemous and ori 2.
animal well is in a weird place if you want to count that, but it's a great game.

guacamelee is fine, you'll get a few chuckles out of it.
i didn't like ender lilies much, the bosses especially were some of the worst one in the genre.

if anyone suggests Grime or Metroid dread, swiftly kick them in the nuts

>>718922680
>but now is inhabited by spooks.
damn, i wonder whose fault is it

>>718928995
Total mothnigger death

>>718914439
The issue with Pantheon 5 is that it includes btoh "easy mode" and "hard mode" variants of the same bosses for no reason. You don't need both False Knight and Failed Champion or Dung Defender and White Defender for example. If they just make the simple change of slashing the easy mode fights from the final pantheon in Silksong it'll be pretty well paced

>>718903905
Imagine flooding the whole thing. Even a single random stupid human kid could destroy their entire civilization.

>>718896291
HK is a great game but it's not story heavy so in terms of that you don't have to play it 1st. If you like this genre though I would play HK, its top tier

>>718901435
She is a hornet

>>718931257
It's not story heavy but it is very lore heavy.

Post cool dream nail dialog

>>718931503
i remember finding a few of the dream nail dialogues extremely dreadsome, but i dont recall which now
I like how the fossil you get the Shade Dash from has different dream nail dialogue depending on whether or not you have the void heart

>>718895641 (OP)
Nah. But sunk cost fallacy fans will slurp it down while proclaiming it the best thing since bread. The indie scene will champion it as a masterwork. Bought and paid for reviewers will cream themselves over it for the first month. But deep down people will notice the flaws, the shit bosses bad movement weak gameplay and they will seethe as they tear up and proclaim "its the best ever" as they devolve into a self masturbatory spiral of I want to fuck that bug!

>>718902603
Same regarding Nine Sols

Stellar 2D combat mechanics, but the whole game was just forgettable that I have no idea what the story was about, even though the story was shoved in your face with non stop dialogues, yet made no impact on me

I can only remember that pig with illusions and the final boss that felt like I'm fighting Isshin again, but in 2D space

Weird game, love me some bio/cyberpunk, but the game just didn't captivate me beside the combat

>>718931503
hope we get something similar to dream nail

>>718902603
>>718932957
Lets be real the only reason /v/ jacks off 9S so much is cause it's niche and lesser known. If the game had Hollow Knight's popularity they'd be shitting on it all the same.

>>718895641 (OP)
Of course, it'll be the best game ever made until 2036 when Team Cherry releases the third game in all of existence.

Hoped sleeping here would teleport me somewhere, seems special.

>>718933310
/v/ jacks off 9s so much because theres literally like 2 insufferable autists that wont shut up about it and will show up to every hk thread
must be hard having this much of an inferiority complex

>>718933591
>hollowfag calling anyone insufferable

>>718933591
The irony is they do it in HK threads when Nine Sols literally isn't even a metroidvania.

>>718896291
If you start now, you can probably beat HK before Silkdong releases

was it kino?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r05OtoEVTPI

>>718933767
are you one of the 9s fanboys

>>718934174
He's a faggot trying to pit two excellent games against each other

>>718934174
I've never played it and probably never will because the selling point is "Hollow Knight but cats", but you faggots have absolutely no right calling anyone insufferable.

>>718895641 (OP)
No it won't. No one ever liked this Soulslop trash. Muh no story, muh cryptic dialogue and weird NPCS, my go out there and do whatever for zero reason. Only "le deep" plebbitors like this trash. Same people who watch 3 hour long Youtube videos about Elden Shit lore.

>>718895641 (OP)
I don't care about hype
I just want the game to be good
>>718896291
Dunno because the games not out yet

>>718934225
I like 9S a lot but I think the HK comparisons are retarded cause they're so blatantly different in design intent.

>>718933767
The Undertale/Deltarunefags of the metroidvania genre.

>>718934491
15 million sales, shazamnig

>>718895641 (OP)
Absolutely not, a game cannot overdue it's development by so long and be good

9S is kino for the world and setting. Literally HK, 9S, and Blasphemous (the first one) are my favorites in the genre just because their worlds are so good.

>20,000 all time high after the release date announcement for Hollow Knight
>most recent all time high is nearly 40,000
Ah, yep. I’m thinking 3,000 player count for silksong

7 year old game btw.

>>718895641 (OP)
Absolutely not. I'll still love it though because it's the type of game I like.

>>718935016
I'm lowballing it and calling 200k minimum ccu.

>>718935030
hollowGODS we fucking won so hard

>>718896291
You can honestly skip it. It's a great game but I've never wanted to play it a second time. This one should have more responsive and faster movement that gets better as the game progresses, which make it downright better.

>>718928554

>if anyone suggests Grime or Metroid dread, swiftly kick them in the nuts

Seems like people are increasingly down on Metroid Dread overtime, qrd?

>>718895641 (OP)
It's going to be the best game ever made

>>718936170
>movement is boring
>combat with normal enemies is completely non-existent
>the main mechanic is some areas infested by an invincible robot you have to kill with a specific super upgrade
>which you immediately lose upon use
>so you have to sneak around, or if detected, run away
>but the robots have a detection range roughly 3 times the size of your screen so it's hard to gauge when you can stop tip-toeing around
>exploration is unrewarding because the majority of the secrets are either missles or health upgrade, which don't fucking matter because of points 2 and 3, as normal enemies are rare and the robots are invincible

>>718898852
>Thinking Pantheons will be easier than Steel Soul
Oh you poor child.

>>718895641 (OP)
Lets extrapolate from the post-release content for the original game.
>gpz (hidden dreams)
shit
>grimm troupe
shit
>hive knight (lifeblood)
shit
>pantheons (godmaster)
absolute shit

No, I don't think it will live to the hype.
>inb4 git gud
I've unlocked the Land of Storms, have you?

>>718897215
>is like a fucking 6 or maybe if you are insanely generous a 7/10 paint by numbers metroidvania and faggots here praise it to high heaven like it is god's gift to gaming.
The complete lack of self-awareness is almost impressive

>>718919340
>How am I supposed to enjoy this indie trash when I've played and enjoyed [multiple superior games in the genre]

Am I supposed to come back later to Lost Kin?
dis nigga has a zillion HP, I've stunned him like 7 times. Ghosts make it hard to heal too.

>>718919340
u r so cool and handsome
a real gamer, unlike me and everyone else itt

>>718937583
Supposed to? Yes. But he IS beatable with no upgrades.

>>718895641 (OP)
I trust them. I do temper my expectations, just in case.

>>718937253
All kino, I'm afraid.

I don't fully get why it wouldn't?

What are people expecting? Didn't all we want was just more Hollow Knight but better? This looks exactly that.

>>718938258
it's contrarians hating on good things + hollow knight became too much of a normalfag/troon-core

>>718900694
replaying HK right now

>>718897629
heh...
*disappears*
*you hear a voice from behind you*
id like to see you try...

Why is it called Silksong??
Will Hornet sing?

>>718913831
I'm not sure what the issue is besides locking the ultimate ending behind it. It's just an option to challenge any/all of the bosses as many times as you want. It's entirely it's own thing.

>>718939167
>Will Hornet sing?
Absolutely, there's going to be a whole section later in the game where you have to win a singing competition to advance.

>>718900694
I'm trying to beat Pure Vessel...
I don't think I'll ever beat Pantheon 5 but at the very least I'll try reaching Absolute Radiance and attempt beating it in the basement. Doesn't help that I forgot all the fights and gotta relearn all the strats because I last played this game in 2019.

>>718937253
Is the joke that you love shit?

>>718895641 (OP)
Hornet sex

>>718895641 (OP)
It will, but not for /v/

>>718939397
>Absolute Radiance and attempt beating it in the basement
That's really what it comes down to and what makes PoH pointless. By the time you reach Absolute Radiance, you should be able to beat every other boss almost mindlessly and it's not like you're rewarded for doing better on the other bosses (lifeblood not withstanding) since you get a bench right before PV+AR.
Since, even if you're killing the bosses almost as fast as possible, it'll still take around 40 minutes each time you do PoH, the only realistic way to approach it is to unlock AR, practice it on its own until you know it well enough to never lose, and then blast through PoH effortlessly.
There's no reason for it to be a gauntlet. It's just mindless tedium.

>>718895641 (OP)
I feel like this game will actually live up to the hype for once
there will be your usual /v/troon contrarian that will making daily threads shitting on it of course

plapping Iselda with my dream "nail" from behind position

>>718939801
The only people overhyping it are retards who didnt play HK.

>>718939171
Because I like the idea of a challenge mode for the end of the game. I just would have rather they designed one that was actually fun.

>>718939702
I can do every boss fairly easily except for the final three. Grimm isn't THAT hard, took me several tries but it's fast paced. Pure Vessel is a lot harder and really the entire run is just dedicated towards reaching those final double damage bosses.

>>718937583
the game is really nonlinear so you can come back later, but yes hes quite tanky so try to get the most out of spells
You can automatically kill the ghosts by using the defenders' crest if you want

>>718898346
>>718898980
>>718899485
I don't think he's contrarian and I sort of agree, although it's more of a matter of what you're looking for, when it comes down to it I heavily prefer the Metroid side of things rather than Castlevania and I assume that's what underpins those comments

I feel like Metroid is more about exploration and upgrades are a bit more "set in stone", Castlevania is a bit more "RPG" with stats, leveling up and shit which I feel can dilute down the experience instead of helping things, same thing for the multitude of weapons which makes things spread out between them instead of having a really solid main combat set up for the main characters

>>718940294
>and really the entire run is just dedicated towards reaching those final double damage bosses.
Youre supposed to practice them so much that youre consistent at them
Worst case scenario, unlock lifeblood for the final pantheon so you arrive at pure vessel with 5 extra health

>>718937583
He's really hard without the shadow dash or upgraded nail.
With either of those he's pretty easy. Hardest part of the fight will be the orange blobs.

>>718935030
has any other single-player metroidvania managed to pull these numbers?

>>718897215
per #4, people often neglect to mention what a huge influence fromsouls stuff is on TC and how many parts of souls games’ systems and logic hollow knight adapted as its secret sauce in the metroidvania genre
in the time that they’ve been developing silksong, you can guarantee the 2.5 of them played and discussed elden ring a ton, and it’s impossible to imagine that this wouldn’t spark some of the directions they took the game in as they continued to expand it more and more
all this is to say that i’d bet projections of the full map size people are coming up with now are small if anything, and that TC has cooked up their own “siofra river” moments that break the map out suddenly in surprising ways

If you let Zote die, do you still have to fight his dream form in the pantheon?

>>718940787
oh and that like miyazaki, they’re intentionally underselling the scope of the game for players to discover by themselves

will the soulsfags ever play the classic games and realize that fromsoft didn't invent anything ever?

>>718915040
So, this fucker is a vessel right

>>718940878
Nope, it skips it. I think there's some other reason why you wouldn't want him to die but I forgot.
Also there's a specific quest you're gonna have to do to get the actual true ending because if you do Pantheon 5 without doing it, you'll get another ending which is honestly better imo so just skip the quest I guess.

>>718931503
>...Father?

>>718940294
That's my point though. By the time you reach it, every other boss, even NKG should be very easy and you don't even need to play perfectly because you have a bench (again lifeblood not withstanding).
Considering it takes ~40 minutes to play through all of the bosses, there's no way you're going to play through the entire gauntlet over and over again just to ATTEMPT PV+AH.
Like >>718940615
said, the only feasible way to do it is to simply practice PV and AH on their own until you can do them consistently and easily.
At that point, the gauntlet is really moot. It's too long to even consider trying to do PV+AH before you know them so well that it's a guaranteed win.

>>718924292
>>718924336
astlibra bread?

>>718941002
Probably.
>Made of void
>Called Phantom, similar to Ghost
Either it's the Knight's returned form or something like it. Gandalf the White style.

I am horny for Hornet.
Cum would really stand out on her completely black body

>>718940582
One of the things I think Hollow Knight does very well is understanding the strengths and weaknesses of both franchises. It has the melee-centric combat and variety of a Castlevania but it has the sturdier progression of a Metroid. IGAvanias are fun to play but the RPG systems always get in the way.
Only thing Hollow Knight lacked from Metroid is mobility options but Silksong will more than likely fix that issue.

>>718897445
interview asked and answered
they had infinite money and no need to release the game soon so they had fun making the new game

>>718915040
>>718941002
Looks like a corrupted version of Lace.

>>718941002
I don’t know. The body’s too different. Unless it’s some sort of frankenstein.

>>718941582
Team Cherry succesfully ripped the badges from Paper Mario and made a system RPG-ish enough to work but not bloated enough to be annoying.

And now fucking everyone has a charm system.

>>718941582
>and variety of a Castlevania
Genuinely asking, in what fucking way?

>>718920878
I have no idea why it's even a ship but I doubt it'll stop them

ADIDO

>>718941032
>there's some other reason why you wouldn't want him to die
comic relief, there's no other reason

>>718941898
Hollow Knight has a ton of different enemies, bosses, and locations. And it didn't have to recycle any old sprites to get there.

>>718920878
>child
Hornet's probably older than Pharloom itself

>>718922172
I always assumed it was lie, there's plenty of intelligent bugs coming to hallownest from the outside and they have to have their own communities. From what I remember the moss creatures and mantis seemed to be there before the kingdom even

>>718897925
>Game theory: The real villain of silksong
>Gets everything wrong but all the followers keep parroting it like it is gospel
>Even if the devs comment that he is wrong, he deletes their comments.

>>718901518
did they say if the game is coming already complete or are they going to give it updates like hollow knight?

>>718897617
In other news, the make a wish foundation kid's NPC got a boss fight in Silksong (after he died)

>>718915040
>>718941002
Its genderless like the vessels

>>718903983
I swear that Vespa has dialogue where she talks about raising Hornet, but maybe I'm mistaken.

>>718922424
You can actually save her from zoat if you beat hus dream fight enough times

>>718897637
>but everybody you talk to irl will express something a little less glowing
Why would you lie like this? You're not talking to anyone IRL.
I have seen plenty of hardcore Hollow Knight fans IRL. If anything I only see hate on here.

>>718895641 (OP)
No. It's been hyped up and memed for so long that it could be a literal 10/10 and still wouldn't meet expectations because people are expecting a 12/10

>>718942179
They are gonna keep updating it like Hollow Knight. They are enjoying making the game too much to stop.
It will be ambitious apparently.

>>718942174
Do retards really thing HK is like from slop where there is no story and everything is hidden behind item descriptions or some shit?
It's story is very straight forward since you're just reading what the characters are telling you

So is this only a third or a fourth of the map? What do we think, /v/?

Dont spoil yourself bros if you dont want to see the map

>>718942501
Shazam lost

>>718895641 (OP)
i never even saw people talking about the original for the past several years so i'm assuming its mostly bots.

>>718942302
I think that's from some of the old lore regarding her being "the raised by three queens"

>>718942501
Fromsoft stories are usually pretty straightforward as well, retard. Only exception is Dark Souls 2 because it was transparently unfinished so it's just a hodgepodge of random stuff glued together from a scrapped open world build.
Just because there's a bunch of background lore doesn't mean the actual plot is convoluted.

>>718942243
AND YET everyone draws the Knight with a dick.

>>718897925
Hollow Knight is pretty good as a medicine, but Dark Souls still is the most powerful and does it in less time

>>718942536
there should be a hidden connection between Greymoor and Hunter's March for the sake of traversal

>>718942635
That's because you've spent all your time on /v/ which is a shithole that barely talks about actually playing video games.
Hollow Knight has sold 15 million copies and Silksong is the most wishlisted game on Steam.

>>718942360
>Save her
>Because of Zote's lies she hates the Knight despite having saved her life
>Knows Zote is a retard
>Fucks off into the endless wastes where there is nothing
>>>Save her

Finally beat nightmare king grim, feeling good after getting my ass handed to me by fucking oro & mato, something about their fight just doesn't flow well like NKG.

>>718942536
Apparently there's roughly 100 benches so yeah that's only a fraction of the map.
The game is about "ascending" (vs HK's descending) so the map will likely keep expanding vertically.

>>718900694
I've been playing Darkest Dungeon. It's so grindy, I don't think I'll finish it in time. If I beat it I'll wait until after Silksong to do it on a harder difficulty.

>>718942501
Didn't stop game theory from making a video:
>The knight is actually wrym.
And ignore/delete the comments of everyone stating how wrong they were.

>>718942796
>most wishlisted
isn't Steam also half bots.

also i never posted on 4chan until the first time in 2019

>>718942967
Anon have you not seen how bad Team Cherry's marketing is? They were dead silent for years. And yet somehow you think they're maintaining a vast army of bots? Are you retarded?

I hope my hero is in.

>>718942536
Were still missing a couple of known areas so yeah maybe this is like a third of the map

>>718942869
>roughly 100 benches
>there are 52 benches in HK
>mfw

>>718943046
>somehow hire a PR manager for Silksong
>same guy was also hired by the Crowsworn devs
>

>>718941493
whats her problem

>>718943046
>are you retarded?
immediately going for insults, tell me you're a leftist without telling me you're a leftist.
i think the same tactics were used for Helldivers 2, Hades 2, Baldur's Gate 3 and Marvel Rivals

>>718942536
Didn't they say that the map was going to be significantly bigger than HK?

>>718943437
Gay

>>718943437
Imagine you're a double princess half god and some midget slimmer tries to kiss you

>>718942819
Good job bro. NKG is my favourite boss in the entire game.

>>718943940
Would explain the domestic violence

I wonder if Hornet will talk much. She talks in HK but it'd be pretty strange to play HK with a main character that doesn't just stare deadpan into the middle distance all the time.

>>718943038
Based oldfag

>>718944191
I used to hate him because i thought he was hard for the sake of being hard, after some tries i started seeing the pattern. By the end i had a smile on my face constantly every time i entered the match because i was inching closer and closer to success. 10/10 fight, music was a banger too.

>>718942536
Probably like 80%

The best bosses in HK are easily the duels against another swordnigga. Pure vessel, Mantisis, Hornet.
The closer an enemy feels to the player in moveset, the cooler the fight. That's why V2 is the best ultragill boss too.

>>718945784
Nah bro its missing a bunch of known areas

>>718941185
ya but its dead now i think

>>718945898
Sly was the best fight.

>>718943235
probably more benches for less backtracking when you die

>>718945898
this, the best bosses are ones that are simple with a bit of complexity
i really hate end game bosses because you're spending most of the time just avoiding getting hit because they decided they need to do two masks per hit

>>718896291
You can easily go through the game and get the normal "true ending" in the time you have left. Just don't bother with the post-game content (maybe Grimm if you have time).

>>718895641 (OP)
seems likely, looks pretty good

>>718944590
Hornet makes noises during gameplay/cutscenes and has dialogue text.

>>718921267
Might be what this sprite is for.

>>718927228
>Hornet becomes Samus

>>718947006
lewd
18+ game

>>718946752
>they decided they need to do two masks per hit
if not for that, you would be able to walk+m1 facetank with lategame charms

>>718947006
no hips

>>718927228
That would be kino actually

>>718946759
Everyone should bother with grimm, its practically main game content and one of its peaks
Just set aside Godhome if you arent feeling it

>hornet is now void
what do we think /v/ros?

>>718947348
She didn't absorb it.

>>718895641 (OP)
Help with playing this game before silky:

I accidentally dream blade slashed the no-eyes warrior afterbeating them just before I realized that there was a "LISTEN" prompt. I looked at the wiki and she gives you a request to help her ghosts find peace? Do I still have that option now that I've beheaded her dreamself or am I gigafucked and need to tank my 10 hour save file?

This was the most unfun piece of shit level I've faced in this game yet. I absolutely hated every second of it.

>have wedding to attend on the 6th
pain

>>718947626
No that's just pre-fight dialogue. You can either accept the prompt to start the fight or use the dream nail to start immediately.

>>718947806
thats what you get for having a life

>>718947348
Hornet is NOT void

>>718947626
>>718947835
Wait I misread what you were saying.
The essence you absorb from them is given to the Seer, she basically gives all the spirits you've absorbed a final resting place.

>>718945247
Burn the father, feed the child

>>718947835
Not the start, when the fight is over. I did notice you could start it with the dream nail, but I accidentally executed No Eyes as she was ready to submit to me at the end. Supposedly she apologizes because she perceived you as a threat and asks you to take her ghosts to a new sanctuary.

>>718947806
>Coincidentally booked the following week off

>>718946258
they never fixed his audio

>>718947253
true, but
i just don't feel powerful or get the feeling of being rewarded for getting all the upgrade items and health items in the game

>enjoy the original game
>will probably enjoy this one too, even with day one issues
I just need to know the price at this point. Seems like the consensus is that it should be about $25, but I won't count on it until it's fully confirmed. 25 bucks for a long game I'll replay is fine though.

>>718947348
Fuck mossbag, that's what I think

>>718948050
Oh that's what she meant by that... Okay it literally sounded like a quest that you adopt as her final wishes before perishing. I get it now.

>>718948136
My guess is it will be $25-30.
It would be super funny and ballsy if they kept it at $15 though.

>>718948309
I always assumed it would be $40 since that's the standard price for a big indie-AA game, so anything under that is a bargain.

Fuck no and I hope it crashes and burns.

>>718942536
less >>718940787

>>718898852
>do speedrun 100%
>map out the route and everything
>do steel soul normal ending after multiple attempts and then bind up the loose ends for 100%
>end up being faster than my speedrun file
goes to show how a bunch of retrying makes you optimize even with a subpar route huh

>>718948079
same, took from the 3 to the 14 off

Haven't played HK since vanilla.
Are expansions worth another playthrough? Or they are just 'hard for the sake of hard' type of shit?

>>718895641 (OP)
HK fans are famous for only liking HK so they'll probably be disappointed

>>718899814
>people have been waiting for Half Life 3 for so long that they gave up and it can't even be memed anymore

>>718942302
The Hive Knights moveset seems to be an implicit reference with how she shares some of his moves

>>718903981
It's going to be 60 bucks, completely removing Hollow Knight's greatest quality(it's cheap)

>>718950019
Doubt it, they already got a chashbag from xbox and they know it's gonna sell millions on top
I'd be shocked if it was over 30

>>718948309
>>718948556
honestly, they could price it at 60 and most people would still fork over the cash i feel

>>718949801
they're good.
grimm troupe has a super boss that's hard, but it's wildly regarded as the best boss in the game
godhome is just pure boss fights.
there's a few new ones in there but i wouldn't blame you if you didn't do the phanteons aka boss rushes.
thankfully you can start a new savefile in the godhome mode and automatically unlock all charms/unlocks/bosses you can fight against individually

>>718950019
there's no way, part of HK selling 15M and having a huge boost in sales this week is its approachable price and they know it

>>718950019
But it's a masterpiece that should be 70-no, 80 bucks?

>>718933360
Keep going right anon

>>718950019
>It's going to be sixty bucks
I wonder what deranged cope you guys will start spamming when it releases and is as cheap as HK is.

>>718950019
it's going to be $25 and $90 for Switch 2

>>718939804
plappana-
>sees filename
you son of a bitch

>>718895641 (OP)
no. just like all the other forever in dev hell games. it's literally just hollow knight.

>>718950925
it was never in dev hell so try again

Silksong has really exposed this board for being frauds since so little praise is sent towards Hollow Knight yet in any other conversation the "way forward" is indie games to break the stranglehold of AAA faggotry in the industry.

Can't handle a major indie game release?

>>718951293
Hollow Knight was a Cultural Phenomenon™ on /v/ for quite a while, so I don't know what you're on about

>>718949801
Nightmare King Grim is my favourite boss in the entire game and in my opinion is was more fair and forgiving than Absolute Radiance.

>>718951183
>delayed for years
>not in dev hell
You cultists are something else

>>718951658
>more fair and forgiving than Absolute Radiance
I think absolute radiance is objectively unfair at times. Her attack patterns can overlap in ways where damage is basically unavoidable.

>>718948838
Gratz Anon. On my most recent playthrough I decided to skip Gray Prince Zote just to avoid dealing with him while cleaning up the rest of the Pantheon stuff I hadn't done

>>718951183
it's gonna be shit. but keep thinking otherwise retard lol

>>718952283
why is it so hard to believe that it might take a while for 2 to 3 people who never need to work for the rest of their lives to make an entire game on their own lmao
why would they lie about it when such a lie would become immediately apparent two weeks after upon release

>>718895641 (OP)
My hype for it is nonexistent so yes.

>>718951658
>more fair and forgiving than Absolute Radiance.
I think that goes without saying. If anything, NKG, and Grimm, are the most fair bosses in the game. They do one attack at a time on a flat arena with no additional adds, projectiles etc and the attacks always play out the same.

>>718900694
painting a building and playing Strive

>>718900694
Stranger of Paradise and Black Souls
Enjoying both of them a lot but I'll inevitably end up spoiling Silksong content for myself if I put off playing it.

>>718947332
Godhome fucking sucks, I hate boss rush shit. It would've been fine if it didn't count towards completion and didn't have an achievements tied to it.

>>718900694
I'm playing SMTVV. Spicy take for /v/ but it's the best mainline SMT game.

>>718898852
just use SAM or a trainer

>>718896229
THESE HIPS

>>718952640
it's what happens when you think every dev team is a AAA studio and something taking long to make = bad

>>718900694
Wasting my time on the greatest time waster of all, Pokemon's Battle Frontier with a romhack that makes EV training less bullshit

>>718897837
cute!

>>718953337
I got to the second open world area and got distracted by other things. Should I pick it back up?

How much of the HK obsession comes from other 3rd world potato gamers?

For me part of what makes it memorable is just how few 10/10 games playable on potatoes actually release. In the last 10 years, maybe Dead Cells, Rimworld, Blasphemous. Hollow Knight was the best though.

>>718952640
I know it doesn't matter cultist la-la land but delaying a game more than two years after planned release isn't a good fucking sign

>>718953581
Funnily enough that's basically exactly where I stopped originally before getting back into it this week. I'd say you should yeah. It's just about there where things really start opening up in combat and allowing for a lot more fun customisation options. I think the biggest issue with the game is that the open world is ass to explore but you don't actually really need to explore anything.

> unironically comparing Shitter Lillies to HK
> hell unironically calling Ender Shitties a metroivania
> even a game worth of mentioning

jesus christ it is like i'm on rebbit

>>718953817
Ok redditor

I hope Silksong doesn't have a Pantheon or Pantheon DLC.

>>718954127
You know it absolutely will eventually anon. They're just going to copy/paste every idea from HK for content updates.

>>718954442
I'll just cheat like I did with Hollow Knight.

>>718954127
It most certainly will but this time around I hope they'll dedicate the majority of the DLC towards stuff that the bulk of the playerbase actually wants to play.

>>718953640
that 'planned release' was purely internal and noncommittal until xbox spilled the beans to pad their platforms' hype cycles
both before and after that those guys were just having fun making their game however they wanted, because they could. a six year dev cycle is still pretty fast in an environment where crunch doesn't exist. you fell for the meme
in 11 days we'll be enjoying our ludo while you can retreat anonymously into being mad and wrong on a laotian dog training forum

its crazy that they still want to add stuff to silksong after it releases. they really are doing this out of passion arent they?

>>718952375
you need to position in advance to not get fucked by it, its intuitive but it can catch people
worst comes to worst, use the downwards dive for iframes

>>718922172
Team Cherry isn't actually planning this shit out and just makes it up as they go along.