Thread 718905379

>>718905379 (OP)
The perfect Inquisitor mindset.

Assaults with the thunderhammer are so broken in pvp its unreal
Literally just tides of free kills unless the entire enemy team autoaims your head as soon as you are in the air

>>718905502
get out of my thread

>>718905379 (OP)
What if in Space Marine 3, this fucking nerd was actually right about Titus all along and he actually was a traitor this entire time?

>>718905654
At this point it's more likely that Leandros will turn traitor.

>>718905379 (OP)
wasnt this the faggot stoolpigeon in SM1?

>>718905717
Nah Leandros should stay loyal. He just needs to get put in his place by Cassius or hell, even Roboat.

>>718905379 (OP)
I refunded DoW Definitive

>>718905883
Understandable.

>>718905883
There was no sense in buying it until the big mods got ported over.

LAMENTORS MENTIONED

>>718906195
I was more surprised by the Mantis Warrior skin, but I suppose there aren't that many White Scar successors out there.

>>718905379 (OP)
When will Saber Interactive pay for the sins of having worse balance and bots than Fatshark of all people?

>>718906250
Now we just need the Astral Claws and Executioners and we can have a Badab War reunion.

>>718905379 (OP)
>Demetrius Titus go to the bathroom NOW

Damn this shit is fun. Completely retarded. but fun. And damn the customization options are insane.

>>718905717
Chaplains don't turn traitor

Demetrium Titus, go to the bathroom, you're defecating yourself

>>718906738
zesty ahh smile

>>718906738
Was already corrupted way before he became a Space Marine

What is even disturbing is that the Emperor knew that there were already traitors among the Word Bearers and let them live

>>718905379 (OP)
he was actually promoted by girlyman and calgar according to both gays workshop and saber interactive btw
that means leandros was always right
he also got his old captain killed as a new battle brother when he was kidnapped by the eldar and sgt. titus and sgt. sidonus saved him

>>718905379 (OP)
Based
Innocence proves nothing

>>718906738
>>718906929
>the guy with Chaos bullshit tattooed all over his face was actually working for Chaos the whole time!
What's funny is that he had those tattoos before he even joined the crusade.

>>718906393
>N-not yet...

>>718907484
>it literally took just one Chaos worshiper being let into the Legions to burn down the entire fucking Imperium and end the Emperor's dreams of a better future for humanity
Man, is it just me or did the Emperor's plan kind of fucking suck when it only took one guy to corrupt half the legions?

will he be in Space Marine 3? will he be playable? I hope we get to see some more named Ultramarines or dudes from the books at least. post your dream team crossovers

>>718906441
>the customization options are insane
what's the point ? they all have the same ultramarine voicelines.

>>718907882
Gays Workshop probably won't allow it but won't be surprised if he appears since he already has a voice actor

>>718907667
>I CAN SMELL IT

>>718905379 (OP)
The thing about Chaos corruption is that it can happen at any time. If someone went back in time to say 61 years before the Horus Heresy and asked Lorgar to turn to Chaos he would have shot that person and burned them at the stake for ever trying to get him to turn against the Emperor. I mean look at the traitor legions you have Emps Children, Sons of Horus and Thousand Sons who are some of the best. Thats why no one should be above suspicsion because Heresy can slip in at any time even among the most loyal as thats all it takes with Chaos is the right opportunity and you can even see it in Titus or even his squad that his men turn against him, and he has doubts about the command structure as well as what the Mechanicum is doing. Thats all it takes really is a series of bad events for Titus and maybe one day he just snaps and feels like the Imperium isnt worth it. Can happen to anyone at any point in their life. And I mean imagine the psychology of a space marine being functionally immortal and very powerful the urge to say fuck it im gonna do my own thing after being treated like shit is gonna happen pretty frequently as initially its not really about turning against the Emperor its rather the Imperium itself is so shitty it no longer reflects the ideals of the Emperor. How to the space marines who fight for centuries deal with that?

How do you stay consistently loyal for that long without ever once being swayed? And thats the thing about corruption by chaos it can start off extremely subtly that even the person subject to it isnt even aware of it.

Yeah the guy can come off as a dick but I think its kinda necessary to be wary of everyone and especially people who have been touched by the warp and fought against Chaos multiple times as well as interacting with powerful artifacts. Its also likely that Titus is a latent psyker

>>718906374
>Badab War reunion.

>>718908232
>Titus is a latent psyker
Shouldn't be possible without the librarians picking up on it. The short animation shows that he's literally just Him and that unbreakable of a will. The voice at the end of the campaign was the Emperor himself bidding him to rise

>>718908349
Don't be like that. It will be a fun time I swear,

>>718905379 (OP)
>Demetrius Titus, go to the bathroom NOW

>>718905379 (OP)
Shut up Leandros.
The rest of the Chapter will never trust you after Graia and the tiny chance you had in becoming Chapter Master in the possible future has been snuffed by Calgar forcing you to become a Chaplain and change your name.

>>718905654
Nope. Titus has the Armor of Contempt and that douche will never be right about him.

>>718908129
>complete your master plan to turn into a daemon prince
>become aborted daemon toilet bowl

>>718908748
>Armor of Contempt
In the lore, Ravenor introduced the concept and in his own writing mentioned that Eisenhorn (his master) fell to chaos despite possessing all ideals which would safeguard one against Chaos.

>>718907749
"angels rebel against god" is the point of the setting's main metaplot

>>718907882
anything involving direct participation by 'marchs is gay. they should just be in the background lore. 40k is already capeshitty as it is without adding even more uber-capeshit faggots into the mix.

>>718908446
are there any new stuff involving the spacez sharks?

>>718909184
>a chapter that isn't a first founding chapter getting anything new, ever, besides Black Templars

lol. lmao even.

>>718909214
Even some of the first founding chapters get shafted in that regard. Iron Hands and White Scars for example.

>>718905654
What’s more likely to happen is his own need to prove Titus is a traitor will lead him falling to Chaos. I mean he’s been seething about him for decades. He probably figured that putting him out in the chapter proper would get him to fall but all it did was show he’s not an issue.

>>718906195
Brother.

I just need Titus and Malum Caedo in the same room so Caedo can call Leandros a bitch.

>>718907882
>post your dream team crossovers
BLOOHD RAHVENS out of fucking nowhere, like in the first one

>>718907882
Titus and the Catachan Jungle Fighters versus the Dark Eldar.

>>718910136
The Blood Ravens should have been in 2 far more than in 1.

The Thousand Sons are the perfect enemy for them far more than the Ultrasmurfs.

>>718910232
At the very least the co-writer for Dawn of War 4 wrote several books about The Thousand Sons.

>>718905379 (OP)
You just now figuring out that the imperium is a totalitarian state that sucks to live under?
The only thing that's good about it is that every other faction is measurably worse.

>>718910582
Even Tau? I thought they were the good guys.

>>718910641
>good guys
Lol. Lmao even. Maybe look at something that isn't porn and fanfics for a change.

>>718910450
Which ones?

>>718910776
they are objectively better tho

>>718910450
And yet there's no Chaos in DoW4 on release, which is kinda strange decision
>>718913632
>gets brainwashed and castrated

>>718909690
He's the reason Titus can actually go back in the Ultramarines

>>718908232
Yeah, this makes me think Leandros' mistake wasn't being suspicious of Titus, but running to the inquisition like a stupid bitch instead of warning his chaplain.

>>718914185
That's more the fault of the writers of the first game not knowing about the proper procedure in the Codex. The final speech of Titus in the first game is about how Leandros follows the Codex too rigidly to be a proper Ultramarine, the speech only makes sense if the Codex actually says to warn the Inquisition in case of suspicion of corruption.

>>718905379 (OP)
Why are they called marines when they don't fight on the sea?

>>718905379 (OP)
Was it autism?

>>718914672
nah bro, those 90 other marines have jobs way more important than taking down a hive tyrant

>>718914638
Space is the sea of stars. Warp is the sea of souls.

>>718914638
Because their combat role is to have as much aggression as inhumanly possible in as short a span of time as possible to spearhead through the hardest defenses then step back and let the army/navy exploit the opening given to them.
Also because space is an ocean

>>718914638
Because much like actual marines, they're capable of fielding operatives on space, land, air, and sea at the same time.

Also post obscure chapters.

If there was a Chaos Space Marine game, would you prefer it to be about your character's fall or would you just want to start as Chaos? I think both could be cool but depending on how it was done it would suck to have all the chaos mechanics locked in the second half of the game.

>>718915470
>The (You) Testament but with Space Marines
Sometimes having alignment-locked powers is fine for a game, I think.

>>718905379 (OP)
TITUS! THE USE OF PARRYSLOP IS A SIGN OF HERESY!

>>718914638
They serve on space SHIPS so they are marines.

I want a campaign featuring the Raptors and having stealth as a big aspect of how it plays.

>>718915470
You start out as a nobody with the Great Crusade, you meet your Primarch and you can become a Loyalist (bad end since you'll be killed at Istvaan III) or go full traitor.

>>718906441
>the customization options are insane
if you buy them*

>>718915470
I want a game that can be both about fall to chaos and staying loyal, where your choices lead to either one of the outcomes. Kinda like in DOW 2 chaos rising, but you can turn to chaos/stay loyal mid game.

>>718915817
WOAH I GOT AN IDEA
DAWN OF WAR PREQUEL
YOU START AS LOYALIST THOUSAND SONS
PLAY THRU CAMPAIGN AS A SMALL GRUP OF THE LEGION
IF YOU FOLLOW MAGNUS YOUR TEAM GETS RUBICK CUBED
IF YOU STAY LOYAL TO THE EMPERROR, BIRTH OF BLOODY MAGPIES
(Also i just want a RTS set in Horus Herresy)

>>718907749
The horus heresy novels are fucking retarded and it's better to just ignore them.

>>718913937
>>718910776
DoW1 isn't canon and an imperial hypothesizing it in the ending is literally the only time it's ever been mentioned.

>>718908867
>Dan Abnett pulpy fapfic
>lore

>>718916748
What's he scanning?

Thousand Sons

>>718917380
More like thousand jobbers lol

>>718917380
Eternal jobbers. Every major battle they get BTFO

>>718915470
I'd prefer to just start as a Chaos marine in current day 40k, you'd start as a black legion marine as the default Chaos undivided with the option of changing into the 4 monogod legions (Emperor's children, World eaters, Thousand sons, Death guard.) to get access to exclusive perks and weapons (I'm thinking going thousand sons would give you seeking bolter rounds and a teleport ability, Emperors children have permanent bonus movement speed and Sonic weapons etc.)

The story would be very simple... you're a power hungry marine who wants to ascend to a daemon prince fighting through hordes of guardsmen, ogryns, loyalist space marines, orks, tyranids, and necrons

>>718917440
>>718917459
nuh uh

>>718917440
>>718917459
All part of the plan. Trust Tzeentch

>>718917000
Doing his job. That sister got severely injured and they had to replace lots of her body parts. That's why she isn't right in the head.

>>718905379 (OP)
Yes.

>>718917489
shit smelly haha

>>718905379 (OP)
>resurrected the Emperor
lol he's a heretic then. The terminus decree states that the emperor should be in the cuck chair forever because he might not be himself once he resurrects.

>>718906441
I should really take the time to figure out how to jigger that mod up. I'm so bored of pve the only thing I do is pvp anymore.

>>718917489
You should be able to take upgrades that eventually dedicate you to one of the gods and which in turn unlock god-specific wargear. The secret Chaos Undecided path gives you more flexibility at the cost of pure power.

>>718918027
>That pic
Reminder we will never get more abhuman stuff.
Nor we will get Imperial Beastmen...

>>718918543
>Nor we will get Imperial Beastmen
100% never ever, beastmen are now mutants again so that GW can push the AoS gor models into chaos and flanderize them even more.
You wanted daemons? FUCK YOU

>>718918543
GW retconned them out or something?

>>718917489
>I'd prefer to just start as a Chaos marine
So what you're saying is we should make another space marine game? Okay, got it.

>>718918625
Fuck GW. 40K is not the same as Fantasy or Age of Smegmar and it should allow for dichotomy here when it comes even to the same factions, species and so on.
So you could have Imperial Beastmen who would (or try to) prove people wrong and vanilla Beastmen who are for full Chaos.
>>718918632
Nope. They still are in, but are not playable.
Only the Beastman Bounty Hunter from Necromunda is playable so far.

>>718918625
>beastmen are now mutants again
Not really. One of the codices says that even the ecclesiasrchy is accepting devout beastmen abhumans into their militia ranks. You can look it up.

>>718918543
>abhuman stuff
Wraithbone pheonix is a good book and it features an ogryn, ratling duo as the protagonists.

>>718905379 (OP)
That was the most realistic part.

LEE andros and Titus are Shitmaris so they cant turn traitor according to GeeDubs

>>718919442
>even chaos wants nothing to do with the primaris

>>718918903
>They still are in, but are not playable
Hope it stays that way. 40k is already too woke and if they accept furries as well then it will be literally over.

>>718919442
>>718919498
>The No Primaris Club Treehouse.

>>718905379 (OP)
unironically he is correct to think this way
give chaos a millimeter in 40k and it'll take everything

do grey knights have baby carriers for primaris yet?

>>718920670
They just got an update, yes.

>>718920670
I think baby carriers would have been cool if they were more like interactive action figures as in they make SM action figures which can be used as regular marines in TT and be used in these mechs.

>>718921000
what? gw not making you buy multiple different models in favor of adaptability? preposterous thought

I'm playing Dawn of War for the first time and having fun, I heard that 2 is flawed but still fun while 3 is objectively bad. Did 3 really shit the bed that hard?

>>718920670
do grey knights even have primaris?

>female marines being sneaked into dow4
Chuddy lost, we own gw now

>>718921384
Cyrus isnt a woman, despite of poor choice of haircut.

>>718921221
didn't use to but not sure if that is still true. probably only because GW hasn't bothered making models for grey knights since they don't apparently sell as well and are lower priority

>>718921204
Three jumped to a MOBA hero system and basically ditched any semblance of base building.

>>718921221
We will know once the new codex releases.

>>718921204
Gabriel does backflips while wearing terminator armor in DoW 3. That shows how the game respects the lore.

>>718910216
In other words, Titus goes on vacation.

>>718905379 (OP)
>to be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions; it is to live in the CRUELEST and most BLOODY regime imaginable
>NOOOOOOOO why isn't Leandros nice to me?

>>718920670
>>718921221
GK have Emperor geneseed. They solo primaris for breakfast.

>>718922870
Space marines aren't men. They're weapons.

Space marines seem awesome until you realize there's no cute girls.

>>718922957
Grey knights have always been jobbers. They haven't done a single thing well in the books.

>>718923008
Lore accurate. Being a commissar for a krieg platoon can be done by even the most incompetent commissar in all of the galaxy.

>>718905379 (OP)
based, that's literally how the universe works
destroying the warp entire is the only hope

>>718922357
Kek.
https://youtu.be/OwHGE7uhjco?feature=shared

>>718923008
the reaction to the warhammer cheesecake thread on /tg/ proves that of all humanity, 40k fans deserve exterminatus the most
the whole game is violence cheesecake with several factions that are implied to off-screen rape everything they touch and yet the second it turns explicitly sexual they get viscerally angry

>>718923194
NOOOOO R*PE HAS NO PLACE IN WARHAM

>>718914638
Space Droptroopers doesn't roll off the toungue well in English

>>718923145
Who is the one Primaris? Mephiston?

>>718923103
>They haven't done a single thing well in the books.
they make good decorations

>>718923194
/tg/ has had pocket jannies for 2 decades and reason why it is a fairly slow board even during covid. It's like /vg/ culture before /vg/ existed. It is an enforced culture basically.

>>718923008
>>718923194
It is the duty of every female guardsman to tend to the needs of our guardian angels.

>>718923194
Keep your normie trash out of our hobby, thanks.

>>718905654
Leandros literally is right, the end of SM2 proves it. Something occult is backing up Titus and it's Warp-related in nature.
The Emperor only provides 'miracles' to those with complete Faith (capital F is important) in him, and even then he doesn't do it intentionally. Marines outside of the Black Tenplars don't hold that Faith, and even THEY don't get proper miracles. Considering Titus also isn't a psyker, he has no way to actively be connected to the Emperor the way Guilliman is, so whatever the fuck is keeping him going isn't the Emperor.
Titus is absolutely doing shit no Marine would ever be able to do, but most players never bother to think about that because Titus is the protag.

>>718923103
>Being a commissar for a krieg platoon can be done by even the most incompetent commissar in all of the galaxy
Wrong, you need fairly skilled commissars because the objective is now to keep them from killing themselves for literally no reason and physically hold them back long enough to die for an actually appropriate purpose.
Having suicidal soldiers is probably worse than having outright cowards in multiple respects, not least of which being that they might drag you down with them.

>>718923434
>Leandros literally is right
He isn't.

>>718923008
>Sisters of Silence
>Sisters of Battle

>>718923486
You must be one of those retards who take krieg lore from jewtube videos.

>>718923434
>Considering Titus also isn't a psyker, he has no way to actively be connected to the Emperor the way Guilliman is
https://youtu.be/LTMV1pF8AQs?si=5WcfyGFlattCe5Ah&t=80

>>718923530
both favor really shitty haircuts

>>718923517
do you want me to put a baneblade up your anus, you blue colored chaos spawn?
t. ordinary Human (captial H) commander

>>718914672
Yes.

>>718923486
>because the objective is now to keep them from killing themselves for literally no reason and physically hold them back long enough to die for an actually appropriate purpose.
You're a colossal fucking retars and I'm guessing you get your lore from shitty youtube videos.
Kriegers aren't the suicidal charge Guardsmen regiment that memes portray them as. They're grim realists who take a hyper-pragmatic approach to warfare because they view their lives are only worth living if it's in utter service to the Emperor. They embody the statement of "Life is the Emperor's currency, spend it well" because to them commiting to suicidal offenses if abhorrently wasteful to their service to the Emperor. They take the shittiest jobs the Imperium can give them because they believe that by doing those jobs well they're better serving the Emperor.
If a Commissar order Kriegers to do a suicide charge they'd shoot him and bury his corpse in the trenches.

>>718923530
Anon, I said CUTE GIRLS.

>>718923319
>epimetheus
>black carapace ripped out
>blank human centipeded to your back
>no tongue
>no eyes
>proginoid removed

brutal

>>718923561
Y'know who else provides protection against Sorecery?
Khorne.

>>718907882
They had Calgar in SM2 and for the longest time he might as well have been a Primarch for how badass his reputation of his was, so I've no doubt that Gorillaman will show up even if it's a cameo in SM3, maybe he'll come in to save the day during a particularly heavy siege or last man standing situation for Titus.

>>718923319
I like to think Abaddon gave him to Fulgrim, to serve as a vessel for Slaanesh. Still, his fate is so fucked up.

>>718908446
Their books are the best, the author for their chapter books is one of the best GW and the Black library has, he's amazingly intelligent and well rounded in interests and gives all of that energy into the Space Sharks.

>>718910641
The only objectively Good Guys in 40k are Craftworld Eldar.

>>718923713
>>718923554
Imperial Armor Volume 5: Siege of Vraks page 91

>>718923776
Too bad that's the Emperor's voice and not khorne's bellowing rage

>>718908446
why is the terminator dwarfing a SM?

>>718910641
Fishgirl sex

>>718909184
>>718909214
Didn't Void Exile come out a month or so ago? That's their third official book, after Red Tithe and Outer Dark.

>>718923928
>Pussy out at the last second
>Act like you had nothing to do with the horrible shit you caused
I hate elves so fucking much.

>>718924001
because he's a chapter master

>>718924001
That's the chapter master of space sharks. He's built different.

>>718905379 (OP)
People shit on him but hes right.
Look at Horus and look at what he did,.

*gets away with literally everything*

>>718923776
He does? Can his followers just blank it out or what?

>>718923319
Has he turned to Chaos yet?

How did they even capture him?

>>718910641
they were, until the human started spamming a god from the tau belief and now, they are going full genocide, or at least the 4 sphere expansion..

>>718923883
>book 1&2 selling in the triple digits

>>718924134
at least kharne got to bully him a bit

>>718924027
Craftworlders were vastly separate from the Eldar Empire and only learned about the Fall when it was too late.

>>718924167
Read the Pandorax novel, although it is all over the place (iirc a catachan kills a plague marine with a knife in it)

he was captured by abaddon at the end of the book, and ended up like in that pic; after that he was completely forgotten by the fluff and he'll never be mentioned again, like countless other characters

My personal fan theory is that when the Emperor dies, he will be resurrected as a Warp God with his own domain in the Warp which is all beautiful and light (like Heaven) and instead of the Chaos Gods who feed on negative emotion, the Emperor will be a God who feeds on emotions related honour, self-sacrifice, duty, loyalty, order etc. And the Emperor's "daemons" will be Angels. This will usher in a new Golden Age for humanity.

>"BUT MUH GRIMDERP"
Stfu nerd

>>718923391
>giant tits on a half-bug person is normie trash
how far gone are you?

>>718924408
its normie for this shithole

>>718924397
Buddy I hate to tell you this but we already know what happens to a race when they fully birth a Chaod God, and it's not pretty.
If the Emperor 'ascends', it's because he's not the Emperor any more.

>>718924397
The Horus Heresy already showed he would ascend as the Dark King, the Chaos God of RUIN.

>>718924468
Didnt humans birth both Khorne and Nurgle? Slaneesh seems to be some special case with her devouring her knife ear faggots

>>718924397
Warhammer 50k: Age of Neoth

SanguiniusMarines

>>718924397
Too bad GW is already setting up to shit on the emperor's revival by opening the mystery box of the Grey Knight's Terminus Decree saying that its their job to put his ass back on the throne if anything were to ever happen (regardless of how fucking nonsensical it is)
Ignore the image, just posting because its evidently youtuber headcanon

>>718924064
aren’t the shark’s night lords decedents?

>>718924397
they've long been headed in the direction that the emperor is a lying manipulator who probably came from a lab somewhere and owes most of his power, like the throne itself, to the xenos artifact embedded within
the closest you're probably gonna get is the resurrection of the eldar god Ynnead with Guilliman somehow at the helm

>>718924517
Old deprecated lore pointed to it but it's up in the air now.
>>718924578
Vraks is a joke and Imperial Armor was ended for a reason.

>>718924397
Sadly 40k will never move forward from the golden throne, imperium at the brink of destruction motif, it is an eternal stalemate in which certain elements will never change, which is why I'm not invested in its lore as I used to be. It is as it needs to be for gw to sell plastic, they have absolutely zero interest in the lore per se or in progressing it.

>>718924475
horus heresy is old news. now we have the emperor strolling through the lion's personal dimension giving him busted magic powers and manifesting through guilliman to burn nurgle's garden and reprimand mortarion

>>718924397
what will happen is that the emperor is going to stand up, turn into the dark king and have a battle with the start child, form them off is anyone guess

>>718924607
No, they're descended from Raven Guard that Corax exiled from the Legion back in pre-Heresy days because they were brutal warmongers that liked Horus better than Corax himself.

Over time however it's implied they scavenged geneseed from World Eaters and Night Lords to make up for their lost brothers.

>>718924634
Then post a book that disagrees with it

>>718924653
its funny that you could've posted this exact take in 2008 and nobody would've disagreed
at least we got some galactic-scale events that had some effect on the status quo, which is more than i ever expected

>>718924653
Hey dipshit the setting is supposed to be a sandbox for you to make your own story in, GW just gives the basic to build off of it with.
'Progressing the narrative' is how we get utterly retarded shit like Primarchs returning.

>>718924578
How will the Gay Knights even come close to the throne?

They're a chapter who got mogged by the Space Yiffs and are capped to 1000 while the Custodes are 10,000 and are supported by numerous Sisters of Silence who nullify psykers, the Imperial Fists, IG Terra edition and Girlyman plus his Ultrasmurf retinue.

>>718924736
Stormcast Necrons

>>718924653
>Sadly 40k will never move forward from the golden throne, imperium at the brink of destruction motif, it is an eternal stalemate in which certain elements will never change
Good, its a setting you're meant to make smaller stories inside of
It's not fallout where the setting is too small to do that without starting to bleed into the rest of the world, you can have stories featuring entire solar systems and still fit them in snugly

>>718924792
Yeah, and?

>>718924783
its kind of funny who in every novel the gray knights show up the all die kek

>>718924783
Plot armor.

>>718924845
Stormcast Leman Russ Battletanks

>>718924783
Ask GW. The whole thing is fucking ridiculous. Its a mystery box not meant to be opened that was not only opened but opened to reveal the dumbest, least satisfying answer possible. Its not even about being grimdark, its just fucking stupid on every level, but god only knows this will be the first time that the GK ever pull out a victory against non-chaos forces but manage to ruin everything.

>>718924783
>and Girlyman plus his Ultrasmurf retinue.
Guilliman is horrified by the Emperor and would actively side with the Grey Knights, because he knows what the Emperor has actually become.

>>718924783
the lucifer blacks alone are probably enough to stop them

>>718924916
It's supposed to be a Twin Peaks style reveal that generates more questions than answers, but since the writers half-committed and the community is retarded, here we are.

>>718909731
can you get beakie helms now or is this a mod?

>>718924916
What was revealed

>>718925005
This
>Meant to bring up questions about what the Emperor has actually become and how him getting up likely wouldn't be a good thing
>Instead gets mangled because "MUH GOLDEN CUSTODES BOIS ARE SOOPER DOOPER SPESHUL AND WOULD NEVER EVER LOSE TO MARINES, EVER! JUST LOOK AT THE SISTERS OF SILENCE WHO WE'VE ACTIVELY DESPISED BUT WILL NOW BRING UP RELIGIOUSLY!"
It's a big indicator of how the current 40k community has gone to shit.

>>718925145
Terminus decree

>>718924783
>>718924578
I think the custodes are on it. It's all part of the Emperor's plan.

During the heresy, in the last day of the webway's war, the sacrifice of one thousand random psykers allowed the Emperor to briefly leave the throne, and after that it went on and on.

Now, imagine bringing in one thousand of some of the most powerful, elite astartes psykers. Literally the best dinner the Emperor ever had. Could grant him quite some freedom and powers.

>>718925086
Most of the cosmetic options you see people posting are DLC you have to pay for

>>718923103
>Being a commissar for a krieg platoon can be done by even the most incompetent commissar in all of the galaxy.
Not quite. If you are a Commissar attached to the Kriegers, then instead of blamming them you will be doing everything in your might to hold them on a leash from needlessly killing themselves in order to achieve your objectives.

>People still don't understand the politics of GW lore
The Terminus Decree reveal was done to make people angry at Grey Knights so that when they get shoved into the Imperial Agents Codex next edition and cease to exist as a separate faction then people will be happy about it instead of rightfully angry.

>>718924607
No, they're Terran Raven Guard who got exiled by Corax because they're too brutal for the Raven Guard. Unlike the others they didn't turn traitor and would take geneseed from excommunicated chapters.

>Iron Losers (there were tens of thousands of them who remained loyal and hated Perturabo)
Minotaurs (everyone else who wasn't part of Barabas' clique)
Silver Skulls (Barabas' clique absorbed by Girlyman)
Marines Malevolent (true successor chapter)

>Thousand Snus (second largest group of loyalists, mostly from the Corvidae branch)
Blood Ravens (Corvidae fellowship who foresaw Prospero burning, left in starships and fought in the Heresy)
Soul Drinkers (loyalist remnants who fought alongside the Imperial Fists in Cthonia, absorbed by Rogal Dorn)

>Luna Wolves
Shadow Wolves (they're all bald)

>Emperor's Children
Death Eagles (successor chapter from loyalist EC pilots)
Sons of the Phoenix (have white hair and handsome)
Red Scorpions (also have white hair, handsome and are mostly apothecaries)

>Death Guard (third largest group of loyalists, the Eisenstein carrying 70+ of them and there were more of them who became Dusk Raiders again and hate Mortarion)
>Night Lords
nobody, the survivors all became Grey Knights

>World Eaters
zero, the loyalists all became War Hounds and attacked Angron (he won naturally)

>Word Bearers
a single dreadnought, all other loyalists were assassinated and/or sent to their deaths prior to Istvaan III

>>718925520
>Soul Drinkers
They're AL successors

>>718924231
People have no taste. But of course a book about one of the Primarchs sells out instantly. Fucking Marvel fanboys.

40k is just going to be in a perpetual state of "Only the Imperium and Abaddon matter and everyone else just shows up to eat shit for them" now, isn't it?

>>718925520
Aren't howling griffins from thousand sons as well?

I'm just not a fan of primaris marines. I don't think their armor looks as good as normal marines.

>>718925737
it's headed towards evil emperor+lion vs ynnead+gulliman. the black legion might just get memory holed and nobody will notice

>>718925737
Yes

>>718925737
Imperium are the protagonists in WH40K so yeah.

>>718925919
>ynnead+gulliman
Honestly fuck you for even saying something that retarded. Get your head checked.

>>718925153
>>Instead gets mangled because "MUH GOLDEN CUSTODES BOIS ARE SOOPER DOOPER SPESHUL AND WOULD NEVER EVER LOSE TO MARINES
Anon this has literally nothing to do with custodes wank, this has to do with the fact that 1000 psychic astartes, ones who have jobbed in every circumstance they've ever had that's not against chaos, supposedly have to assault the most well-defended place in the entire setting to put a theoretically fully functional emperor back on his throne.
>10k custodes
>10k sisters of silence
>a quarter of the imperial navy
>the imperial fists
>and every macguffin in the imperial vaults
And even then that's not why the story telling fails, it fails because you cannot make a
>In case of emergency: Break Glass
and then when they actually break the glass its a fucking post-it note saying
>lmao faggot just bee urself
It does not raise the question of "what if the emperor coming back is bad" because everyone already knows that theres a second eye of terror underneath his ass that explodes out the moment he gets up. There's already an answer. Things will be shitty and we'd have to hope whatever good comes out of it somehow makes it worthwhile.
The only way they could possibly redeem it is by saying the plan is specifically for the GK to job horrifically so the emperor can eat them in an attempt to recreate the ritual that first made him.

>>718925737
As GW intended.
Xenos are NPCs, anyone who actually likes them over the Imperium or Chaos is a fucking loser.

>>718924001
>>718908446
Every time someone posts about Tyberos, he gets a little taller

>>718925212
Well what the fuck does that mean now? I thought it was a bomb under Emps’s chair to make a final fuck you to chaos. How’d the new lore change that

>>718926036
chaos is shit. even the better faction within it like iron warriors and night lords don't give a fuck about the warp

>>718926036
NECRONS ARE COOL NECRONS ARE COOL NECRONS ARE COOL

>>718926168
Orkz is kool

>>718926168
The major Necron plotline of the Pariah Nexus went from focusing on Necrons to focusing on Chaos, anon.
It's over.

>>718926168
I prefer pre-5th edition Necrons

I want to be a chaos terminator

>>718926293
>follow chaos willingly

Why you hate yourself like this?

>>718926168
too bad the coolest boys zahndrekh&obyron are forgotten

>>718926293
They are called obliterators.

>>718926380
I like spikes

>>718923935
This is a lot more subtle and non-meme than the "OMG COMMISARS LITERALLY HAVE TO STOP THEM FROM KILLING THEMSELVES BY CHARGING CARNIFEXES WITH THEIR HECKIN SHOVELS ALL THE TIME" line you usually hear.

>>718905379 (OP)
>faction with quotes like "innocence proves nothing" and "there is no innocence, only degrees of guild" still suspicious of Titus
NO WAY!

>>718914006
Can you not read or did you just figure saying what I said again would add something?

>>718926531
No virus, no obliterator.

>>718926293
>slave to chaos
>exiled to hell
>fucked up geneseed, constantly have to steal loyalist one (you've completely lost your genetic identity by now)
>constantly smell like shit or cum or gore
>keep growing horns and shit and your amours is all fucked up
>most likely gay
>at the loneliest a human could ever be, zero connections whatsoever
>it's 99% likely you will get betrayed by your so called "brothers"/allies or be raped by some daemon/turned into a chaos spawn
>best outcome possible of your life is getting a loyalist bolter round in the skull

yeah being a CSM sounds like a great life. meanwhile loyalist chad marines:

>clean and handsome
>mortal females want to fuck you, men wish to be you
>respected by every organizations in the imperium
>immune to horniness and wenches
>enjoy healthy hobbies like reading, praying, scribbling on parchments to attach on your cool ceramite plate in your free time
>your brothers will die for you, you will eventually die happy knowing you're protecting them and all of humanity

>>718926986
More like faggot marines

>>718926986
lies! dying for a false emperor is the worst fate in the galaxy!

>>718924397
The Warp is literally named as such because it is permanently corrupted. A corrupted God of Order is a God of Ruin as mentioned >>718924475. The best theory is the Emperor already is a God and all that basically already is true. If there was a contingency plan, it is that Humanity survives long enough that the Emperor transitions into a true God of the Materium while still alive outside of the Warp.

>>718926163
>cope that they don't give a fuck about the warp
ftfy

>>718927158
>true God of the Materium
How does that work because only the C'tan belong to that category?

>>718918543
beastmen are still canon but the loyalists ones are often stuck in the penal legions

>>718926986
But it's fun!

>>718926986
>best outcome possible of your life is shedding your mortality and ascending to godhood
Keep your eyes on the prize, anon. Chaos is not for quitters.

>>718921221
No. They did get a not insignificant if not controversial lore update that gets weird, their only updated models were Castellan Crowe who is in the current scale, and a new sprue for the fucking Dreadknight. Maybe 11th will do something for them, but World Eaters are also waiting for like half their army too.

>>718927449
Can I become a daemon prince if I goon inside 100,000 bolter bitches?

>>718907749
It kinda a deal between the Emperor and the Chaos Gods. The Gods let big E get some of their power with the condition that some of the primarch will turn traitor in the future. Big E was stacking the deck in his favor by being shitty to the "broken" primarch so he would get to keep the good ones while Chaos got the bad ones. CLearly it didn't turn out as he planned due to Horus fell to Chaos.

>>718927449
>fail one time
>get soul tortured for eternity by bigger gods based on their whims
That's not much of a prize

>>718927627
>lose horus then sanguinius

>>718927661
>fail one time
There's that quitter mentality rearing its ugly head again.

>>718927234
Perpetual + Power (10,000 years of Humanity's faith) = God. And we know the Emperor studied the shard of the Void Dragon so he might have figured out the possibility and then at Molech peered into the future to see how to do it. A cynic might argue this was the Emperor's plan all along to become a Materium God and everything is proceeding exactly as he intended with Chaos completely fooled into doing it's part.

>>718925737
Always has been

>>718915470
I want a first person fallout style game where you play as an Alpha Legion terrorist undermining a Planet.

>>718927931
He doesn't sound that confident in the later heresy books

But that can be explained by the fact that GW doesn't care about the fluff as long as neckkbeards keep buying intercessors as shown by women custodes jumpscare and terminus decree

>>718927449
>can only ascend if you're a named character and killed/sucked your way up the ranks
and the best part
>""""godhood"""(daemonhood) is nothing but an eternal pledge of slavery to the chaos gods

they simply make you immortal so you utterly and fully belong to them. grand prize

>>718928285
>game begins
>send one message to planet
>game ends
>2 hour credits

>>718905379 (OP)
Titus could shed a lot of suspicion if he would stop fucking around with chaos relics and not refuse to inform his squad mates of wtf he's thinking when they are very clearly doubting his faith.

>>718927931
Faith is also a powerful force that is not understood by many. The Sisters are not psykers but use Faith as their shield and weapon which they are able to manifest into victory on the battlefield.
Faith, faith. 10,000 years of faith from trillions of humans and even some millions of Xenos who believe the Emperor is a true God has super charged him.
People thought he was dying and diminishing, the throne is failing but they don't realise the Golden throne is the only thing that is currently saving Chaos from being obliterated as it's the only thing that is currently shackling the Emperor to the material Universe. Once it fails the Emperor can truly die (Yes Terra will implode and be sucked into a black hole but Terra had it coming) but then as a Perpetual he will be reborn and from that supercharged power of faith he will be the new God of the Galaxy, a true being far, far more powerful than any of the Chaos Gods or all of the Chaos Gods combined.
They know this which is why they send their agents out to help the imperium to maintain the Golden throne from failing.

>>718928406
Big E might have a plan but he can't never expect the plan to go 100% smoothly. Remember the Dark Age of technology and how humanity spread out but ended up rely way too much on AI which led to the collapse? Big E did design the STC but the outcome was wildly out of his control.

>>718928285
would be cool if the game takes place over the span of centuries or longer

>>718928598
I heard of a theory that if they found a sufficiently strong enough Psyker to sit on the throne then Big E could get off of it. Hell he could probably find a way to tie multiple mid level Psykers to it.

>>718928605
My point was that discussing Impy and even primarchs is pointless because GW will change the lore 100 more times. Interesting how much of current setting will remain when GW will get it AoS'd

>>718905379 (OP)
This entire franchise is extremely embarrassing and not just because it mostly revolves around grown men painting figurines for board games

>>718928819
that was magnus' role xD

>>718928819
That originally was the purpose of Magnus the Red.

>>718924578
>by opening the mystery box of the Grey Knight's Terminus Decree saying that its their job to put his ass back on the throne if anything were to ever happen (regardless of how fucking nonsensical it is)
>Ignore the image, just posting because its evidently youtuber headcanon

The plan is to sacrifice the Grey Knights. They stand zero chance against the Adeptus Custodes + any Chapter who hears of their plan and stands alongside the Custodes. The Grey Knights are some of, if not the most powerful Psykers in the Imperium, and the Emperor feeds on Psykers.

>>718928406
You can explain it as Chaos wasn't actually fooled at all and beat him by playing to stall the game indefinitely or by fundamentally corrupting the nature of Humanity to poison the literal flavor of faith of humans to ensure his Godhood is subverted.

Or that the Emperor knew that Chaos knew and so KNEW this would happen and accounted for it anyways because HE had faith in Humanity to break the stalemate somehow and did all this out of beneficence and his own personal faith to give Humanity a better future.

>>718928819
It's not a theory since that happens at the end of HH, Malcador subbed for big E on the chair so he could go beat up Horus.

>>718928598
>They know this which is why they send their agents out to help the imperium to maintain the Golden throne from failing.
False. Every depiction of the Emperor's presence in the warp is akin to a dying light being hounded by 4 Bestival forces. The chaos gods are waiting to eliminate a wounded king.

>>718928885
shaming people for having a DIY hobby doesn't work. it only highlights your own shortcomings

tbqh I feel like last Grey Knights codex was written by Matt Ward who snuck into the office at night

>>718928885
You unironically sound like a woman

>>718928885
I think it's mainly because of how people take a satirical thing so seriously. Now, 40k doesn't say it's a satire, but it has the makings of one

>>718928885
It's embarrassing entirely because of the board game, actually.
Real men build gunpla or model ships.

Didn't expect BL to get better over time. Their non astartes focused books these days are really great depending on the author.

>>718929363
Sell me on some of them

>>718928898
>>718929006
Fucking Magnus

>>718929394
None of them are good unless you have autism. The first books of the Horus Heresy are ok, Eisenhorn and Ciaphas Cain are kinda fun if you want to get into the setting. But even those are bordering on autism territory.
The rest is even more trash.

>>718929035
The plan is to a ploy to sacrifice the Grey Knights so all the latent Shards of Nobility in them can now restore Magnus' humanity so his red ass can sit on the Throne to relieve the Emperor from the duty. Grey Knights were nothing more than the dirt to grow sufficient Nobility to convert Magnus back to the fold. Which correlates exactly with how the Emperor callously manipulates and sacrifices his underlings for the benefit of Humanity.

>>718914185
We see in SM2 that the one of the standard responses to suspecting your CO is to betray and try to murder him in an active combat zone, so in retrospect I can cut Leandros some slack.

>>718929394
Ignore that retard. Outgunned, above and beyond are recent books that are really good. Peter Fehervarri's series is also great. I highly recommend his book Fire caste. It shows the true insanity of chaos corruption unlike any other book. If you want older stuff, you cant go wrong with Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Gaunts ghosts.

>>718924397
My personal fan theory is that the Necrons will finish waking their Tomb Worlds and deep dick the rest of the universe with their superior technology and aesthetics.

>>718909690
>for decades
It was more like a century. Correct me if wrong, but Titus was tortured for a century because of Leandros.

A FUCKING CENTURY!

>>718929098
Paint by numbers isnt DIY faggot

>>718929968
>Tortured
He was interrogated. Huge difference.

>>718930008
it is. not liking it doesn't change that fact

So is it canon that SMs die from 3 hits from the smallest nid and have to roll around to dodge?

>>718926168
>NECRONS ARE COOL NECRONS ARE COOL NECRONS ARE COOL
LOL
LMAO

>>718906195
love them but hate that ugly ass armor

>>718929968
Not tortured, he was on stasis for most of it.
Another Inquisitor found him and several other stasis'd Marines and rather than do the paper work she shipped them all off to the Deathwatch.

>>718926039
legends say he's taller than the emperor now

>>718924001
he's canonically the same size as a primarch

>>718930121
Technically it only takes 2.
Marines have 2 Wounds and a 3+ Save, Hormagaunt claws deal 1 Damage and have -1 AP. The ticket here is Marines have 4 Toughness against the Hormagaunt's 3 Strength.
So, in order to kill a Marine, a Hormagaunt would need to;
>Roll 4+ to Hit
>Roll 5+ to Wound
>Have the Marine not roll a 4+ Save
Twice.
Hormagaunts get three Attacks per combat, so it's entirely possible for one to take down a Marine, though unlikely.

>>718930308
I wonder if GW will make couple of nods to a theory that he's an upgraded thunder warrior who was assigned to night lords

>>718930308
The Emprah is a normal sized human, you just happen to see what he wants you to see.

>>718930308
>coolest mofos of SM like Tyberos, Asterion Moloc never get any book
>meanwhile books focus on black ultramarines and nigger space wolves
The pain

>>718923434
FYI there was a faux pas in SM2 with the subtitles. At one point there is a line Titus hears which says, "Rise, Son of Guilliman."

The subtitles say it's coming from the big E. This was patched out so that it's unclear who the line comes from. Nonetheless, the devs have tipped their hand. Titus has a direct mental connection to the EMPRAH. It's canon. Titus ain't no Chaos Bitch.

>>718930601
That's fucking stupid.

>>718930508
Explain why his sword is primarch sized.

>>718930601
Wouldn't be the first time a daemon is pretending to be something it is not.

>have a gay little army man in a gay little British game
>name him literally "Tight Ass"
I bet he was a favorite in the barracks

>>718908349
Enough time has passed

>>718930601
What is the emperor if not another chaos God, complete with daemons and a thirst for power?

>>718930816
>turns traitor and forms slaaneshi warband
>they call themselves the gaping abyss

Space Marines vs Straw Hat Pirates who wins

>>718930719
Why would you need that explained to you? He can manifest in any size he wants.

>>718930308
>>718930586
>More frightening and horror inducing than some Chaos factions
>Can even mind break Drukhari
>Somehow still loyal
Yeah whatever

>>718930983
As long as he's pro-human, then who really gives a shit?

>>718927180
I'll accept it from the AL because I like their paint schemeand the IW because giant trenches and siege equipment are cool.

>>718927180
Why is Ahriman not front and center in this pic?

NIGGER

>>718923883
>Their books are the best
But enough about the Night Lords trilogy

>>718930586
If they are ever covered in a book, they shouldn't ever take their helms off and be portrayed as inhuman (but still loyal) as possible.

>>718931954
>Losing to Eldar

>>718931954
Miss him

>>718932123
>Losing
A bunch of ill fitted CSM killed a pheonix lord lol

>>718932225
uzaas...

>>718932123
Nobody loses to eldar

>>718930601
It actually said it was from Calgar, not the Emperor. It was patched to "Voice" because it's not Calgar.

>>718925520
Are there still 2nd and 11th Legion geneseed in the Ultramarines

>>718925520
>Terran Raven Guard who got exiled by Corax because they're too brutal for the Raven Guard.
That's Ashen Claws, and they opnely calls Sharks traitors spawn.

There is zero mention of votann in this thread. What is their cultural impact on 40k anyway?

>>718932583
That they are tabletop army and will stay for a while

>>718932235
>A bunch of ill fitted
Squad of terminators, couple of dozen raptors and a dread

And they didn't even kill her because eldar are cheaters


>>718932583
>What is their cultural impact on 40k anyway?
Squat jokes from TTS

>>718932452
It's still funny to me that the only impact Eldar have had on 40k for the past 10 years is that their big major leader is Guilliman's cocksleeve.

>>718932619
They do have a book and are in a game you know.

>>718932686
Well they are doing the job of NPCs.
Dumb retards still investing into xeno factions

>>718932583
To be ignored

>>718932686
aren't Innari or however it's written as of right now but on the back shelf? Haven't heard about them since Girlyman became a zombie in a life support armour

>>718923434
The ending has Calgar recognise him in the warp by Titus recalling when personally said that his interpretation of the codex is correct.
It’s very obvious that Leandros was wrong, even if he’s not meant to be malicious about it.

>>718932651
>couple of dozen raptors
They were all liabilities especially with how corrupted they were.

>they didn't kill her
They killed a bunch of banshees and the pheonix lord isn't infallible, they lose a part of their soul everytime they die and by the end they'll become like wraithguards.

>>718924167
>Has he turned to Chaos yet?
That's the neat part: he can't.

>the stain of suspicion never truly fades
Isn't that just the imperium in a nutshell?
>>718932583
They need to appear in video games for any real cultural impact.

>>718932876
>they lose a part of their soul everytime they die and by the end they'll become like wraithguards.
That's quite opposite.
If yopu want dank on elves do it properly

>>718932779
He's actually recovered enough that he can take the armor off now.
And yes, like every xenos plot the ynnari are (rightfully) dead. Yvraine will only ever be known as Guilliman's concubine.

>>718933012
>like every xenos plot
Projecting much gweilo?

>>718905654
if they ever do that its gonna be like resistance 2 ending with the mc

>>718932876
Has any MAJOR craftworld or phoenix lord die ever? Like Malcador level permanently. Not that yellow one which OH NO WE GOT NOMMED NOW WE HAVE MORE ROBOTS IN THE ROSTER NOW and not OH NO A SHARD OF KHAINE GOT KICKED IN THE BALLS BY CATO SICARIUS 7th TIME THIS WEEK IT'S NOW TRURLY ELDOVER NOW

>>718933012
>he can take off the armor now
Like permanently or "5 sec gotta take a leak"

>>718933260
>Like permanently or "5 sec gotta take a leak"
First

>>718933260
Jain zar was perma killed by a keeper of secrets. The status of some Pheonix lords aren't even known.

>>718933794
>The status of some Pheonix lords aren't even known.
Only two

>>718907749
chaos OP

>>718905379 (OP)
>demetrium

>>718923434
> Marines outside of the Black Tenplars don't hold that Faith, and even THEY don't get proper miracles.
What do you consider the Emperor’s champion?

Some say that there are 6000 Black Templars but I believe there are at least 20,000 because I've read multiple times that their chapter is the size of a Great Crusade Legion.

For me, it is the Crimson Fists.

'ate Imperium
'ate Chaos
'ate Xenos

luv me Minotaurs
luv me Marines Malevolent
luv me Iron Warriors
luv me Night Lords

simple as

>>718934575
a great crusade legion is like 100k+
smaller legions like the salamanders, raven guard and emperor's children were like 80,000

>>718934575
Ywnbal

>>718934575
Thousand sons are a great crusade legion
Emperor's children circa meeting Fulgrim are a great crusade legion

>>718934631
OW DAWG! SO HECKIN EDGY!

>>718934240
thats just a title many chapters use, not exclusive to the Black templars

>>718919442
>so they cant turn traitor according to GeeDubs
Anon. There is now entire indomitus crusade fleet personally corrupted by Khorne himself. Including sororitas and entire chapters of primaris. Fleet Quartus

>>718934736
I know, just like the good ol' 40k

everyone gets his name wrong

>>718929645
I mean, is it really manipulation if the Grey Knights would be perfectly okay with dying for the Imperium?

>>718935053
thats what gaslighting is all about. making people act 'willingly' the way you want them to

>>718924397
Here's your chaos god of positive emotions

Everything is his fault. He activated the power source and summond chaos.
It doesnt matter if he was tricked, it doesnt matter if he is loyal.
He is guilty as shit.

>>718934642
Emperors Children were what 200 when Fulgrim was found? Obviously I average it, I should have said a mid sized Great Crusade legion and yes I believe it to be true because it is.

>>718935239
Looks like no god. No-God if you will.

>>718935437
They were a few thousand strong but had gene seed AIDS until Fulgrim was found.

Then their population stabilized and ballooned in size when he later picked up the Laer Blade.

All traitor legions were at 150k+ just before the Heresy.

>>718935206
By this point then, the entire Imperium is a gaslighting operation. There's a lot of ways you can make a Space Marine but none of them involve lying to them and pretending they're eventually going to reach retirement and settle down.

>>718934873
Okay manchildren

>>718935239
What is that?

>>718907882
Rowboat Gorillaman will doubtless show up at some point.

>>718935667
erda's pussy

>>718905379 (OP)
unironically coherent with 40k thought

>>718935053
Yes but all I am saying is that okay it is retarded and GW went in this direction because they are gay, cringe and woke plus don't even know their own lore anymore but this is still salvageable because it actually does kinda align with the Emperor's usual TTPs of callously sacrificing his subjects towards the End Goal without bothering to give them the choice to make it themselves, when they totally would have if it had been offered, but then results in bad shit occurring because He didn't, and not even because He was being callow but because the Emperor is a Galaxy-tier intellectual autist that genuinely struggles to comprehend how emotions factor into human behavior without Malcador operating in the background compensating for his -tism.

>>718916748
https://youtu.be/KU5JbCiL2DM?si=0NBtNFKG-8nEjWKh

>>718935564
100k for Black Templars.

>>718924397
The Talisman of Seven Hammers will create a psychic feedback that will destroy the entire Sol system. It'll also wound the Chaos Gods.

>>718925520
Alpha legion don't have successor chapters?

>>718924397
Won't happen, Star Child is a thing

>>718936493
Warbands who don't know which side they're own

>>718929394
Anything by Crhis Wraight.

>>718925520
Barthusa narek is a semi loyalist word bearer who is on a crusade to kill lorgar

>>718936493
They all sleep in their goon caves under imperial palace gooning until they hear a code word which either turns them traitor or loyalist

>>718935667
It's the emps
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Dark_King_(Entity)

>>718936493
Alpha legion has loyalist and traitor factions, and loyalist factions who act like traitors and traitors who act like loyalists. And loyalists who act like traitors who pretend to be loyalists. And traitors who act like loyalists who feign being traitors

>>718925520
Sharks originally were loyalist night lords who got stuck with Corax because they look the same more or less and after the heresy he told them to fuck off

>>718936894
Night lords are all faggots as embodied by skraivok

>>718925086
The beakie helm is sadly DLC. I got it because I pre-ordered the game so I got all of the dlc items as they come out. Pretty gay but sadly modern games are all like that now.

>>718937015
Yeah, the ones from nostramo are cringe incarnate

>>718907882
Roberto Guillermo will 100% be in SM3

>>718935634
ok fleshbag

>>718913937
>>gets brainwashed and castrated
Same thing that happens to every space marine.

>>718937459
Titus will also have fallen to chaos and be the villain, with the nigger marine becoming the new protagonist. You switch to the pajeeta guards woman halfway through

>>718938129
The game is being made by russians, not americans

>>718938419
Yes.

Isn’t most of Leandros’ time as the Chaplain with Titus in 2 positive? He only starts flaring the old ‘tism back up when Chaos gets involved, and even then he is livid at the other Ultramarine attacking Titus. Is it huffing copium to think he is watching Titus hoping he will prove to always overcome corruption?

>>718926168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHXR3E-nM4M

>>718939009
People ITT got their opinion on Leandros from Tiktok 40k channels that dropped the canon that people in Space Marines chapters get promoted to Chaplain as "punishment"
Your take is valid

>>718935530
WHAT DO YOU SEE?
WHAT AM I?

>>718939009
People somehow got the impression that being promoted to Chaplain was a punishment and that Leandros 'never gets to see action'.
The truth is that regardless of feelings he did the right thing and he got promoted to an honored position afterwards. The only reason you never see him in action in SM2 is because it's focused on Titus and Friends, meanwhile Leandros was probably off leading a squad of Bladeguard because Chaplains are fucking great in melee.

>>718936851
Why would the Emperor become a being of thoughtless, senseless, aimless destruction of everything and anything, and why would such a being have followers?

>>718939805
Because that's literally the Imperium, as well as the DAOT Humans before them.
Humanity in 40k is not good, in fact it's not even properly comparable to modern Humanity given the several millenia gap in culture. The only thing that keeps the Imperium propped up is rabid and horrendous expansionism seeking to claim, rapidly harvest, and discard every planet that humans can set foot on. It's a bloated, festering, chambling corpse feasting on whatever scraps it can come across, and has been as such since the Great Crusade.
And at the head of it all is the Emperor, who the Imperium prays to for strength to pillage, plunder, and destroy everything in their way.

>>718914638
They sail the sea of stars niggy

>>718938419
Why did they add a niggermarine and a jeeta then?

>>718908349
>A Blood Raven group was secretly in the Badab war looting the corpses of Astral Claws who died in battle
I laugh

>>718939731
>he did the right thing
He did not, and his promotion is undeserved. Breaking rank, breaking the very rules of the Codex Astartes he worships and reporting to the Inquisition should have earned him nothing but penal service.

>>718908967
Nah, it's "Chaos always win in the end"

>>718940167
>Because that's literally the Imperium, as well as the DAOT Humans before them.
It isn't.
>but muh ancient lore that got retconned 10 times over by now
Not an argument.

>>718940167
>Because that's literally the Imperium
No it isn't. The Imperium are the good guys.

>>718927627
Lorgar is without a doubt the most infuential and thus powerful Primarch. He singlehandedly kickstarted the entire Imperial Faith. If GW writers aren't completely retarded, they'll build the whole evil arc of the emperor upon Lorgar's scripture as a continuation of the deal at Molech -- i.e.: the emperor as an avatar of Chaos Undivided and the Warp itself (beyond and before any allegiance), who's sole purpose is the indefinite pertubation of the Warp. Basically comparable to Enslavers in the complete lack of discernible alignment.

>>718938129
>Titus falls to chaos
Pay attention to the cutscenes next time

>>718915470
Just do the good ol'
>get backstabbed by one of your subordinates who steals your shit
>vox him "i lived bitch" and gather a new force to kill his ass and steal back your shit, while killing and looting shit from every other faction along the way

>>718931529
There is at least one Inquisitor who is very cagey about all the Emprah worship and "miracle". Irrc they accused Saints of being Daemon

So first SM was Undivided, second was Tzeentch, will third be Slaneesh or Nurgle?

>>718940495
Cope. If Leandros wasn't right he wouldn't have been promoted. He did, therefore he was.

>>718940612
I don't know if you're being ironic or not and honestly it just maked me tired.

>>718905654
Space Marines 3: Titus Joins the Goffs.

>>718940495
Titus was a traitor and a heretic. It doesnt matter if he is loyal, he was directly responsible for a chaos incursion. Nothing in the games story suggests leandros called the inquisition himself, they were probably investigating Drogan.

>>718941629
>uhhhh sweatie don't you know you're doing a hecking fascism right now?
You people unironically argue in favor of the eternal rape demons from literally hell and then wonder why nobody takes you seriously.

>>718941480
There's several lorepieces all around where we've seen either one marine or entire chapters ran across a fucking bed of nails for even disobeying one single order, and this fucking shithead got TWO decorated smurf captains incapacitated from a first founding chapter. At best we can theorize Leandros just got his entire identity changed so Calgar wouldn't put one of those fists through his chest.

>>718941871
>You don't think the Imperiumare good, therefore you must think Chaos is good!
Listen man I get this whole thing is scripted but if you're going to be a dipshit could you spice it up a little? It's always Daemons and Nids. Why not something more obscure, like Slought or Enslavers?

>>718930658
Welcome to Warhamer, its like this in fantasy too.

>>718942151
That's the opposite of Warhammer, anon, it's bright and noble faggotry to prop up a character GW wants to shill as the new face of 40k. The same sort of thing happened to Franz in End Times and most people hated it.

If Titus joined the Tau instead of staying with the corrupt Imperium he wouldnt be accused of betrayal at every point he would be served well.

>>718934575
Why are the Black Templars the best chapter?

>>718942435
>If Titus joined the Tau instead of staying with the corrupt Imperium
What planet are you currently on? I need to call the Inquisitor right now.

>>718940495
>breaking the very rules of the Codex Astartes
In the canon of the game, he didn't

>>718942435
A Gue'vesa Marina is too based for modern devs

>>718940167
Grow up, faggot. The Imperium are the good guys and there's no changing that. Go back to crying and fapping to Tau tits.

Why don't they make a Dawn of War game that takes place during the Horus Heresy or other memorable events?

>>718924517
Humans didn't birth Khorne and Nurgle since they already existed in the Warp, but rather they were the turning point that gave them sentience

>>718943173
Because GW is foolish. HH DoW would immediately outsell every 40k game due to allowing Primarchs to be playable.

>>718943173
>Horus Heresy
every match would be mehreens vs chaos mehreens

>>718943384
That's all HHfags want

>>718943384
That's literally all it needs. Even then you can still include Mechanicum, Solar Auxilia, and Custodes.

>>718943432
The heresy should've stay a mythical background event instead of getting two gorillion shitty books

>>718943558
Correct. But here we are. An event ruined and tasteless fags infesting every 40k thread

>>718942578
Terra

>>718943693
Aw, poor little xenos fan mad that his NPCs go put in their place on the bench.

>>718905379 (OP)
What don't you understand about "never"?

>>718943384
I meant more like a campaign or scenarios to go through in single player. Multiplayer can have all the races they want. It's a better story than "everyone in the fucking universe decided they want this one planet/system at the same time" so that you can include everyone.

>>718914638
Cause they're blue

>>718944057
>rushes to his strawman in a desperate attempt to out himself as a tasteless fag as soon as possible
Good boy, just as planned. Here's your (You)

>>718908232
>Titus is a latent psyker
Itd make more sense if he were a latent null. Itd explain his warp resistance.

>>718943765
>Terra
Ok it's going to be a controversial Exterminatus but I know just the man for the job.

>>718905654
Would be pretty kino to have chaos storyline but that will never happen

>>718943558
As opposed to the shitty 40k setting with 7 gorillion shitty books. Who cares its all slop and you are a peasant for partaking in any of it

>>718945012
This guy

>>718926168
*pre 3th ed silent metallic nod*

>>718946159
>3th
Why are oldcron fags so fucking retarded. It wasn't even 3rd edition, they got their (Desperately needed) overhaul.

>>718923008
I really hate the rebrand of the Imperial Guard to Astra militarum. I know it's for copyright issues, everyone still calls them the imperial guard. It feels wrong

>>718947256
Every organization in the imperium has some high falutin formal name and then a casual nickname

>>718924397
Yeah bruh, go ask the Eldar about how that went for them

>>718943384
do it like AoE, shared base roster of marines, solar aux, admech, knights, etc. with some omissions and additions for each legion

>>718948384
The Eldar are gay faggots and they made a god of gay faggotry. The Imperium is based on faith in a noble Emperor.

>>718946481
no. no talking

>>718948367
>Lion El'Jonson is a reference to gay poet Lionel Johnson who wrote a poem called The Dark Angel