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Anonymous No.718984957 >>718985397 >>718985439 >>718985470 >>718985498 >>718985720 >>718985770 >>718986078 >>718986379 >>718986736 >>718986760 >>718987158 >>718987413 >>718987814 >>718988081 >>718989005 >>718990757 >>718991773 >>718992256 >>718992268 >>718992327 >>718992379 >>718992493 >>718992919 >>718993254 >>718993312 >>718994107 >>718994395 >>718994782 >>718995771 >>718998962 >>718999448 >>719000378 >>719002407 >>719003469 >>719004584
Chris Avellone
What did he mean by this?
Anonymous No.718985397
>>718984957 (OP)
Kek. Based.
Anonymous No.718985439
>>718984957 (OP)
that fallout sucks
Anonymous No.718985470
>>718984957 (OP)
He should give me some money
Anonymous No.718985498 >>718986528 >>718990238 >>719001043
>>718984957 (OP)
Because Bethesda's hack writers have no idea what to do with Fallout other than blame Capitalism and desperately try to get people to love the Brotherhood of Stolen Toasters.
Anonymous No.718985674 >>718985876 >>718986528 >>718987289 >>718989852 >>718991769 >>718992530 >>718993578 >>718994882 >>718997564 >>718998791 >>718999405 >>719003425 >>719003661
That the Fallout show's nuclear apocalypse happening because of capitalist greed is fucking retarded. In the original games it happened due to extreme great power paranoia, and acccording to Tim Cain it was China that nuked USA first because of America's FEV program.
Anonymous No.718985720
>>718984957 (OP)
this fucking guy
Anonymous No.718985770 >>718985952 >>718985997 >>718986032 >>718986315 >>718986820 >>718986921 >>718987113 >>718987367 >>718988293 >>718989414 >>718989501 >>718990053 >>718991258 >>718992256 >>718993081 >>718993135 >>718993306 >>718993365 >>718993887 >>718994293 >>718994328 >>718995034 >>718997981 >>718998669 >>718999049 >>718999354 >>718999883 >>719003603 >>719004163
>>718984957 (OP)
>kisses a girl while drunk
>she writes a huge blog post
>reddit attacks him and calls him a rapist
>he gets fired
>she admits she lied because she was mad at the time
>reddit still hates him and still calls him a rapist
He's still blacklisted and it makes no sense. Even if all the allegations were true, he kissed a girl when he was drunk. Like that's all the dirt they have on him.
Anonymous No.718985859 >>718985975 >>718985976 >>718987114 >>718988340 >>719003514
isn't this guy a rapist?
Anonymous No.718985876 >>718986008 >>718986178 >>718986528
>>718985674
It's an amazon show. Did you expect otherwise?
Anonymous No.718985952
>>718985770
it doesn't matter because humans, especially retards who use social media, only care that you HAVE dirt, not the significance. Even if that dirt is entirely fake.
Chris Avellone will forever be a creep to those people because learning that it was faked isn't going to validate their belief.
Anonymous No.718985975
>>718985859
No, that's the tv series showrunner
Anonymous No.718985976
>>718985859
yeah I heard he raped my uncle
Anonymous No.718985997
>>718985770
That fat piece of shit Feargus is in with all the other developers and told them Avellone bad.
Anonymous No.718986008 >>718986105 >>718988125 >>718989487 >>718993704 >>718994687 >>718997885 >>718998747 >>718999053
>>718985876
That's not the problem, the problem is that this is the new canon going forward.
Anonymous No.718986032
>>718985770
We live in a really fucked up world
I hope he's okay and those faggots didn't ruin his entire life
Anonymous No.718986078 >>718986149 >>718989414
>>718984957 (OP)
I like a good amount of games Chris Avellone had been involved in, but man the dude himself always comes across as really full of himself.
Anonymous No.718986105 >>718986148 >>718986236
>>718986008
I refuse to believe Todd Howard would be stupid enough to fucking wipe the NCR. That's absurd.
Anonymous No.718986148
>>718986105
He backtracked after people got pissed and said that now, there's still the NCR. They're just somewhere else.
Anonymous No.718986149 >>718986319
>>718986078
He's pretty pretentious, but that in part makes his writing work.
Anonymous No.718986178 >>718986247 >>718986314 >>718991223 >>718998513
>>718985876
>a gigacapitalist greedy evil corporation makes a show about capitalism bad
Very funny indeed
Anonymous No.718986236
>>718986105
Todd's Fallouts have pretty consistently shown that his preferred Fallout setting is an undeveloped and ruined crapsack wasteland where only the Vrotherhood of Steel and evil factions have anything more organized than shantytowns.
Anonymous No.718986247
>>718986178
Yeah, it'd be pretty crazy for a media division that produces DEI content to lean into a DEI narrative. How nuts.
Anonymous No.718986314
>>718986178
gotta keep the proles forever locked as corporate mandated "safe revolutionaries" and engaged in pointless culture wars
Anonymous No.718986315
>>718985770
He is ritually unclean now. We live in a new era of witch hunts and superstition.
Anonymous No.718986319 >>718986445
>>718986149
Indeed, I love how high quality Avellone's writing is compared to base game New Vegas
>bear bull bear bull bear bull bear bull bear bull penis-tipped feet
>bear bull bear bull tag-teamed by giant fuckbots bear bull bull bull bear
Anonymous No.718986379 >>718997871
>>718984957 (OP)
>PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO ME!
Avellone hasn't done a single thing worth thinking about in well over a decade
Anonymous No.718986441
>Chris Avellone Talks About Departure From Obsidian Entertainment
Airing dirty laundry probably doesn't make you appealing to be hired by the types in this industry, albeit
Anonymous No.718986445 >>718990305
>>718986319
You didn't like Avellone's stand in nigger preaching at you while sniffing his own farts about how only he understands what he's writing about?
Anonymous No.718986528 >>718997282 >>719000807
>>718985674
>>718985876
Pic rel is the professional experience of the co-showrunner. I don't know where the fuck they pull these randos from, but she even got a tard wrangler (middle aged man, he doesn't even have a Wiki page) in her neck who's more of a producer and his biggest creative contribution was being part of the writing room for Portlandia. So what do you expect with people like these running the show? The way I see Jonathan Nolan needed a new playtoy after he crashed an HBO prestige show (Westworld) into the ground with Mach3 and Amazon is one of those mega-companies with basically infinite money, so since Fallout as an IP is popular and the lore is still not FUBAR despite Bethesda's efforts it was time to get to work.

>>718985498
>not Brothahood of Steal
Anonymous No.718986652
how come all these twitter screenies have an "x.com" watermark now
Anonymous No.718986736
>>718984957 (OP)
HOLY FUCKING KINO
Anonymous No.718986760 >>718986832
>>718984957 (OP)
I have to ask, did he really post that?
Anonymous No.718986820 >>718986863 >>718989540 >>718991002 >>718994756
>>718985770
>He's still blacklisted and it makes no sense
It's a two part thing

1) A lot of companies will just not want to touch anyone that's been embroiled in a controversy, no matter the circumstances. It doesn't matter if you didn't do anything, and if it was entirely forced upon you; it happened once and so it could happen again, and they don't want to associate with that at all. It's why historically, calls for censorship have been effective even when only being pushed by a small number of people, because no matter what, they've made things a hot button issue, and so companies will just drop it. It doesn't matter how many voices or how much evidence there against it, as that's just keeping up the heat.

2) For those that don't care about any controversy, they still don't want to hire Avellone because he has fully shifted into being an abrasive asshole.
Anonymous No.718986832
>>718986760
Yes but he was taking the piss more than actually complaining, he said it looks fine
Anonymous No.718986863
>>718986820
Anonymous No.718986884 >>718987050 >>718987052 >>718987176 >>718987635 >>718992113
Does the show ever mention China dropping the bombs?
Anonymous No.718986921 >>718987142 >>718987393 >>718990854 >>718991395 >>718993182 >>718993425 >>718994108
>>718985770
>OH MY HECKIN SCIENCE GUYS! HE GOT CANCELED AND CANT FIND WORK!
>Some how Nick Fuentes still makes money and makes what he wants.
>Somehow Sam Hyde makes money and does what he wants.
>NAH DOOD YOU JUST DONT GET IT AHHH GEEZE ITS THE SYSTEM HOLDING HIM BACK!!

He could still make games, he dosent and then cries about it, he made his own boogie men.
Anonymous No.718987050
>>718986884
It doesn't say who dropped the Bomb. It does however "reveal" that Vault-Tec considered kicking off the nuclear slapfest themselves, as they wanted to take over America in the aftermath.
Anonymous No.718987052 >>718987191
>>718986884
the corporations all conspired to nuke America so that way everyone can spend money on living in a vault MWUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Anonymous No.718987113 >>718987206 >>718987367 >>718987597 >>718989540 >>718993182 >>719001609
>>718985770
>He's still blacklisted and it makes no sense.
It makes perfect sense, while he was rightfully vindicated in the end, he went full vindictive retard at the start and shit talked all his former studios, including needlessly airing their internal issues and squabbles that was entirely unrelated to him and his firing just to "get back" at them. If you do this, expect to never work in that industry again, you're now a liability for the image of any company that would potentially hire you and could lay you off in the future as you may well do the same.
Anonymous No.718987114
>>718985859
yeah he raped the fallout show audience
Anonymous No.718987142
>>718986921
He's saying exactly what Tim Cain is saying, yet Tim Cain is a liberal. Somehow because Chris Avellone got accused of kissing a girl, he's a far-right chud. Reddit retard mindset.
Anonymous No.718987158
>>718984957 (OP)
Won't someone think about the heckin' corperinos?
Anonymous No.718987176 >>718987350 >>718987439 >>718987556 >>718988723 >>719000937 >>719005837
>>718986884
The whole China nukes because FEV thing Tim Cain talked about didn't happen now. The bombs were dropped as a conspiracy plot by Vault Tec to make themselves rich by taking over in the aftermath
Anonymous No.718987191 >>718987331
>>718987052
What are you, 12?
Anonymous No.718987206 >>718987256
>>718987113
Imagine you got fired over a lie and everyone distorts it into something far worse than the original accusation. Now when you defend yourself, everyone calls you insensitive and uses that as a justification why you can never work again.

Faggot.
Anonymous No.718987226 >>718987307 >>718987458 >>718987552 >>718987605 >>718990938 >>718993207 >>719000937
I don't remember if it was Chris Avellone or Tim Cain, but one of them stated years ago that, no, vault boy was not a parody of capitalism; and redditors freaked out, crying "death of the author." Now they pretend he never said that and still push the idea.
Anonymous No.718987256 >>718987394
>>718987206
Sorry you have the emotional maturity of a child and lash out, sadly that will reflect on you in the same way it did for Chris. Hopefully you manage to grow up someday
Anonymous No.718987289
>>718985674
>great power paranoia
And foul play by Enclave presumably.
Seeing as FEV precursor happened earlier than the war, they were planning vaults for awhile.
Anonymous No.718987307 >>718993207
>>718987226
Classy of those pretentious niggers. Cry death of the author when he disagrees with your shit takes and claim others lack "media literacy" when they do it.
Anonymous No.718987331 >>718987582
>>718987191
I'm a liberal writer who feels threatened by AI
https://youtu.be/Ozz2oNoVP1M?si=qiqOjZvRZu6G2d_e&t=106
Anonymous No.718987350 >>718987471 >>718990241 >>718998323
>>718987176
>The bombs were dropped as a conspiracy plot by Vault Tec to make themselves rich by taking over in the aftermath

I think i honestly prefer aliens from Mothership Zeta doing it compared to CAPITALISM BAD
Anonymous No.718987367
>>718985770
>>718987113
lol they all already blacklisted him for "le rape". Dying Light 2 was completely changed because of this entire hoax and we got an absolute garbage sequel because of it.
Anonymous No.718987393
>>718986921
>these two jewish guys can do what they want
lol
Anonymous No.718987394
>>718987256
Sorry you're a passive aggressive homosexual and think it's okay to accuse innocent people of rape
Anonymous No.718987413
>>718984957 (OP)
He's stupid and didn't realize we already think he is profoundly retarded. This post was meaningless.
Anonymous No.718987425
What's funny is that we don't actually know a lot about Pre-War Corporations. There's Vault-Tec, Rob-Co Industries, and whoever makes Nuka-Cola, but that's pretty much it outside of some minor names that pop up from time to time.
Anonymous No.718987439
>>718987176
>The whole China nukes because FEV thing Tim Cain talked about didn't happen now
Not necessarily. With the direction the show is taking, it's most likely going to be that Vault-Tec just causes the crises that ignited the Resource Wars, but then the way things progressed in the war ultimately spiraled out of control. After all, for as much of a bastard that Cooper's wife was, it's doubtful she'd have let her daughter get caught up in the nuclear blasts if Vault-Tec actually knew when they were coming, especially since relatives like Norm are offered a place in Vault 32
Anonymous No.718987458
>>718987226
This is one of those few times the gigachad has truly seemed fitting, just look at that line-up of games
Anonymous No.718987471
>>718987350
Zeta isn't as bad as others say.
Anonymous No.718987517 >>718987585 >>718987625
Is the show still running?
Anonymous No.718987552
>>718987226
Kino
Anonymous No.718987556
>>718987176
>The bombs were dropped as a conspiracy plot by Vault Tec to make themselves rich by taking over in the aftermath
The show never confirms this and Vault Tec kick-starting the nukes has always been a theory
Anonymous No.718987567 >>718987657 >>718987740 >>718989021 >>718990330 >>718991434 >>718992847 >>718994545
Let the show speak for itself.
Anonymous No.718987582 >>718987664 >>719000876
>>718987331
Okay yeah, so you are 12
They're not discussing wanting to earn money off of people from the Vaults. They're wanting total control of the world. The last bit of total influence that money can't buy, despite money otherwise being power.
Anonymous No.718987585
>>718987517
Season 2 coming up
Anonymous No.718987597
>>718987113
lol yeah he would have totally gotten industry jobs again if it wasnt for that.
when you get marked you might as well drag everybody else down. your career is done regardless.
Anonymous No.718987605 >>718987913
>>718987226
What ever happened to Jason Anderson? I swear this dude vanished from existence. When it comes to Interplay and Troika you always head about Leonard Boyarsky and Tim Cain, but he was basically the "third guy" with them and he just never comes up at all anymore
Anonymous No.718987625 >>718987954 >>718988765 >>718992016
>>718987517
Yeah, man. They just released a trailer for Season 2.
Anonymous No.718987635 >>718987690
>>718986884
Ha ha ha no, in fact it is implied the war was with russia because China has stock invested in amazon.
Anonymous No.718987657
>>718987567
THE POWER OF ONE
Anonymous No.718987664 >>718987710 >>718987761
>>718987582
>everyone is dead
>everything is worthless
THE POWER OF CONTROLLING A VAULT!!!! THE ABSOLUTE POWER!!!! BEING A BILLIONAIRE CEO IS NOTHING COMPARED TO THIS!!!!
Anonymous No.718987690
>>718987635
bwaaaahahahahah
Anonymous No.718987710
>>718987664
GARY!
Anonymous No.718987732 >>718987795 >>718987820 >>718988078
If Vault-Tec wanted to take over the country, then why waste so many lives in the Vault Experiments?
Anonymous No.718987740
>>718987567
the fish faced protagonist should have joined in
Anonymous No.718987761 >>718988136 >>718989343
>>718987664
>everyone is dead
Except, you know, the part in the scene that YOU just linked where they talk about using the stock of people inside the Vaults to repopulate the world in their chosen image.
Anonymous No.718987795
>>718987732
They were conservatives. Get it? Haha!
Anonymous No.718987814
>>718984957 (OP)
Chris is a lefty faggot, so it really says something when even he's making fun of it for being so on the nose.
Anonymous No.718987820
>>718987732
Hahahaha! GARY!
Anonymous No.718987913
>>718987605
After Troika folded and a period of absence Leonard joined Obsidian and was name dropped quite a bit for his past RPGs to essential market for Obsidian and Tim later started his youtube presence, so that has kept them both more actively in the public spotlight. Whereas Jason just keeps bouncing between Interplay, InExile and TurtleRock multiple times and just became a rank and file employee of them so he kind of faded into obscurity as he isn't the face of the company, or marketing and he doesn't maintain a significant social media presence.
Anonymous No.718987954 >>718988045 >>718988046 >>718988231 >>718988350 >>718990220 >>718992016 >>718993456
>>718987625
Why couldn't Bethesda just be content making their own shitty east coast fanfic tier garbage story, why did they have to come over and kill the west coast story too?
Anonymous No.718988045 >>718995374
>>718987954
Because, it's easier to set the story in California so the film crew doesn't have to move far.
Anonymous No.718988046
>>718987954
Because Todd got a serious chip on his shoulder as over the past like 5 years New Vegas became extremely more well regarded in the normalfag gamer community so he wanted to destroy it
Anonymous No.718988078 >>718988219 >>718988346
>>718987732
The Vault Experiments are each CEO finding out how exactly they want the world to look like after they wipe the slate clean and start over with a new society they control. Some are actual models of what they want, some are just there to tackle a niche thought experiment that might solve an issue their actual plan will face.

Besides, if human lives mattered to them, they wouldn't exactly be plotting global nuclear genocide
Anonymous No.718988081
>>718984957 (OP)
If he wrote the show there would be a character speaking only in exposition but they would've made it sound like they were hinting at some big twist coming up. Then the "reveal" would happen and it would've just been the same things that they already said 100 times.
The Fallout show sucks, but I'd rather watch
>capitalism le bad
than suffer Avellone's "writing" for even a minute.
Anonymous No.718988125
>>718986008
This is what annoys me about the show. Knowing that its retarded shit is going to be part of the universe now really annoys me.
Bethesslop already defiled the franchise enough.
Anonymous No.718988136 >>718988572
>>718987761
FINALLY AFTER 200 YEARS OF LIVING IN A POD, I AM MAYOR OF LAS VEGAS!!! YES!!!!!!
Anonymous No.718988219
>>718988078
>999 women
>1 man
>999 men
>1 woman
>1 man and dolls
>"a niche thought experiment"
Very hugh mann experimentation
Anonymous No.718988231 >>718988757 >>718991745
>>718987954
Because everyone wants to kill the West Coast. Van Buren was gonna wipe out San Fran and fuck up California. Vanilla New Vegas establishes that the NCR is about 5 seconds away from splintering or otherwise experiencing collapse. Lonesome Road gives you the option to nuke the entirety of California and Arizona, leaving only Nevada, and if you don't, then it's set up that the Tunnelers will eventually start fucking up the region too.

No matter what, the West Coast was gonna get tore up big time
Anonymous No.718988289 >>718988535 >>718988582 >>718992978 >>718993038 >>718993583
1
2
New vegas
Nevada
Sonora
This is the official fallout canon. Sorry, I dont make the rules.
Anonymous No.718988293 >>718988789 >>718990026 >>718993887
>>718985770
it makes me how wonder how strong Libel laws are, if that was me id sue her into oblivion for damages caused to my work and personal life and make a example of her
Anonymous No.718988334
I like S1 as F04 adaptation
t. slopGOD.
Anonymous No.718988340
>>718985859
ask your mom
Anonymous No.718988346 >>718988561 >>718988572
>>718988078
>be Mr. House
>super genious
>richest man alive
>robot army
>robot servants
>inventor of the pipboy
>ceo of a space exploration company
>owns a pod that will keep him half alive for hundreds of years
>his evil plan is to be mayor of las vegas
Imagine instead of the world being nuked, he would be exploring space and colonizing mars. Nah fuck that, mayor of Las Vegas is way cooler. Of course Mr. House would throw all of that away to become a mayor.
Anonymous No.718988350
>>718987954
Your hero Chris Avellone wanted Tunnelers to destroy every West Coast faction offscreen
Anonymous No.718988513 >>718988606
I'd be alright with them destroying the west and stuff if I knew they would replace them with something else thats interesting. I was never the biggest fan of NCR anyway.
Bethesda is just destroying everything so the series can be the brotherhood fighting super mutants and raiders until the end of time.
Anonymous No.718988535
>>718988289
Yes, hello?
It's for (you)
Anonymous No.718988561
>>718988346
But House does say he eventually pioneer space travel once he restarts industry in the Mojave.
Anonymous No.718988572 >>718988869 >>718988935 >>718992121 >>718992941
>>718988136
>>718988346
>go from being a billionaire CEO to just the mayor of Las Vegas
Yep, because the show also establishes that they fucked up royal with their plans and things spiraled out of control, dumbass. If they actually accomplished what they wanted, they wouldn't be doing things like having to nuke Shady Sands like you people so often complain about.
Anonymous No.718988582
>>718988289
Finally people are beginning to understand
Anonymous No.718988606
>>718988513
Don't forget the Brotherhood fighting the Brotherhood.
Anonymous No.718988723 >>719000002
>>718987176
>end the world
>money becomes worthless
>????
>profit... somehow?
These fucking writers.
Anonymous No.718988757 >>718989089
>>718988231
>Vanilla New Vegas establishes that the NCR is about 5 seconds away from splintering or otherwise experiencing collapse.
a NCR civil war would have made for a much more well thought out and intresting story with lasting impact on the wasteland (especially with places like the Hub and Vault City wich would bid for independance) and would have been a valid reason for the collapse of the NCR

just dropping a nuke on them is a major copout
Anonymous No.718988765 >>718988887
>>718987625
>four fucking blimps
Fucks sake
Anonymous No.718988789
>>718988293
He did and she has to pay damages to him in the seven figures range
Anonymous No.718988869
>>718988572
>yeah we'll just nuke all the surviving civilizations
>surely the far more numerous, very well armed, and far more lethal people who kill like its nothing wont just hunt us down for doing this
Anonymous No.718988887 >>718989089 >>718989518
>>718988765
Now, you're probably wondering how the Brotherhood acquired enough materials to construct and operate 4 war blimps plus the personal to manage all that.

.......Shut up.
Anonymous No.718988935 >>718989017 >>718989151
>>718988572
What was the plan exactly? The show implies Mr. House wants to be the mayor of Las Vegas and the other CEOs just want stupid shit like Mexican super mutants. Trying to take this lore seriously makes you look retarded. Imagine telling Elon Musk he could choose between being an immortal space CEO or an immortal mayor of Las Vegas.
Anonymous No.718989005 >>718997739
>>718984957 (OP)
Did Avellone get forcibly redpilled by the false accusations and industry-wide abuse?
Anonymous No.718989017
>>718988935
Take over America and turn it into a Corpo-State.
Anonymous No.718989021 >>718991425 >>718995854 >>718999807
>>718987567
Why are they all so fat?
Anonymous No.718989089 >>718989198 >>718989496 >>718989857 >>718997490
>>718988757
>just dropping a nuke on them is a major copout
In all fairness, the show doesn't really take the POV far to any other locations, mainly just Shady Sands, and it was the only one that got nuked. We don't even get much said on the actual state of the NCR, even whether the troops that show up at the end are remnants or not. Whether they dissolved or splintered or what to the point that they've yet to reclaim the region, the question of what actually happened to them is just a big fat question mark at this point. More missed opportunity or misaligned focus than definitive answer.
>>718988887
>operate 4 war blimps
What if the show has the balls to make the Midwest Brotherhood canon
Anonymous No.718989151 >>718989248 >>718990262
>>718988935
>Imagine telling Elon Musk he could choose between being an immortal space CEO or an immortal mayor of Las Vegas.
I mean, it is Mr. House. The guy that will pay you immensely more for Nevada snowglobes than the actual tools with which to reclaim the wasteland and start making his way back to space. Everything else aside, I could say his autism doing that.
Anonymous No.718989153 >>718989443 >>718991490 >>718997254
Is tactics worth playing?
Anonymous No.718989198
>>718989089
Would the Midwest Brotherhood call the West Chapter a bunch of useless toaster-fucking losers?
Anonymous No.718989248 >>718989381
>>718989151
>than the actual tools with which to reclaim the wasteland
They must be built first.
Anonymous No.718989343 >>718989447
>>718987761
That's stupid, and you're stupid for liking it. There's less convoluted ways to portray >capitalism bad without turning it into some ham-fisted moral tale about DAE anyone else capitalism BAD? OMG! They blew up the world because billionaires evil! (They are evil, not to put too fine a point on it, but telling the audience they're evil because they want to blow up the world is a morality tale for infants.)
Anonymous No.718989381 >>718989612 >>718989707
>>718989248
>They must be built first.
Play the game, dumbass: House offers twice as much for Snowglobes as he does the precious Platinum Chip that he needs to upgrade his robot army and actually start making headway on repairing the world.
Anonymous No.718989414
>>718985770
Don't forget, won a DEFAMATION lawsuit against the people who accused him.

>>718986078
Yes he does, but so does say 'trick weeks, and trick weeks attacks the customers AND has a track record of making unsellable trash.
Anonymous No.718989443
>>718989153
Yeah it's alright. I don't like the SPECIAL system being used for it though. They made charisma overpowered. Charisma affects how quickly you gain ranks, and the higher your rank, the more powerful your squad is. It should have just been Jagged Alliance reskinned as Fallout.
Anonymous No.718989447
>>718989343
You okay buddy?
Anonymous No.718989487 >>718990206 >>718992374 >>718992445 >>719002314
>>718986008
You do understand no one gives a rats ass about this new "canon" right? Everyone unanimously agrees it has nothing to do with FNV and absolutely everyone will memory hole this show and pretend it doesn't exist just like the new Star Wars movies. I literally sometimes forget they made 3 new whole ass movies.
Anonymous No.718989496
>>718989089
>mainly just Shady Sands, and it was the only one that got nuked.
Because Coop from twin peaks got mad that his wife turned lesbian and cucked him with a woman and nuked the town in a cuck rage. It wasn't even Vault Tec's actual plan, he just had access to nukes because he was part of Vault-Tec. The show is fucking stupid.
Anonymous No.718989501 >>718989625
>>718985770
he's not blacklisted because of his actions, he's blacklisted because of the backlash.
what was that line from Oppenheimer? "we don't have to convict, just deny"
Anonymous No.718989518
>>718988887
If we want to play that game a bigger issue than the four fucking blimps is when shady sands is nuked you have BoS knights on site picking up the nog. And they drop him off again as a adult near California. Which means the BoS has a connected operational network spanning the entire country. Four blimps is chump change compared to having the logistics to operate from California to Boston.
>its the goofy fallout universe logistics dont matter
The entire reason you can talk Legate Lanius out of a fight is logistics, same reason the NCR is having so many issues expanding.
Anonymous No.718989540 >>718989621 >>718989821 >>719001826 >>719002460
>>718986820
>>718987113

Utter bollocks. The art director of Avowed for example went on bordeline illegal shit about race and hiring, got into a dumb slapfight with Elon Musk right as his game was about to release, and he's STILL there. Character designer for concord went on racist tirades, made the worst recieved game in industry history and got HIRED afterwards at blizzard. ZQ made wild accusations that ended in Holwoka's suicided and she got hired writing for the Aliens VR game.

Loads of these fuckers are acting like lunatics, attacking the fans, attacking each other. Doing crazy shit, and yet they're still in AAA and AAAA.
Anonymous No.718989612
>>718989381
Are you daft? Paying less can lessen its perceived value, not to mention it's a contract you're obligated to fulfill, and the item was on person already before.
Paying for locating rare and irreplaceable novelty items in bizarre areas is much more dangerous, and these novelty items can either be resold, or hold a sentimental value.
House pays for the Chip a professional amount because it's a job, globes are an errand and a risk you're not obligated to embark on.
Anonymous No.718989621 >>718989702 >>718991121 >>718991661
>>718989540
Because those people actually maintained friends in the industry. Avellone decided to piss off everyone.
Anonymous No.718989625
>>718989501
>I didn't rape anyone
>"OH SO YOU'RE SEXIST TOO, HUH?"
>no I'm not sexist
>"OH SO NOW YOU'RE ATTACKING ME?"
no one can even point to what he has said that's so awful. It's simply because he got accused in the first place. Winning the lawsuit and the accusers admitting they lied somehow makes this political to your small minded reddit brain.
Anonymous No.718989702 >>718989756 >>718989835
>>718989621
>Avellone decided to piss off everyone
by defending himself from a proven lie
Anonymous No.718989707
>>718989381
To add unto pricing, "headway" to repair the world will take years. You kinda forgot about literally every other person in the wastes.
Anonymous No.718989756 >>718989781 >>718991121
>>718989702
He was shit talking Obsidian before that, that's probably what killed his employability.
Anonymous No.718989781 >>718989884
>>718989756
He founded Obsidian and found out they were purposefully firing people for being white. Of course he was upset.
Anonymous No.718989821
>>718989540
>The art director of Avowed for example went on bordeline illegal shit about race and hiring
Against white people doesnt count.
>Character designer for concord went on racist tirades,
I saw the character designs for concord I already know that it was antiwhite so it doesnt count.
Anonymous No.718989835 >>718989928
>>718989702
>by defending himself from a proven lie
He attacked everyone and aired out as much laundry as he could. He wasn't just defending himself on the actual issue, he was trying to deflect attention to everyone else.
Anonymous No.718989852 >>719005158
>>718985674
>That the Fallout show's nuclear apocalypse happening because of capitalist greed is fucking retarded.

Not at all. Destroying ourselves through insatiable greed is our real destiny.
Anonymous No.718989857
>>718989089
>We don't even get much said on the actual state of the NCR,
lets be honest with ourselves here, the NCR in season 2 will just be remnants again, they will never mention other territoriers like Redding,The Hub, Vault City or Reno because they dont fucking care
Anonymous No.718989859 >>718989960
But wait, how is the Brotherhood still operating? They should have run out of Fusion Cores ages ago.
Anonymous No.718989884 >>718989974 >>718990320 >>718991170
>>718989781
That's not what he was complaining about. He was complaining about them having horrible schedules and paying like shit. Posting it publically on twitter is still bad, even if it is true. Why hire him if there's a possibility you'll be next on his public smearing.
Anonymous No.718989928 >>719003753
>>718989835
>He attacked everyone and aired out as much laundry as he could
like what?
Anonymous No.718989960
>>718989859
Bethesda contacted them when changing the lore and sent them a dozen packs of fusion cores
Anonymous No.718989974
>>718989884
HOLY SHIT BLACK LIST THIS GUY
Anonymous No.718990026
>>718988293
>it makes me how wonder how strong Libel laws are

doesn't matter, your jewish/nig/foid judge will judge against white guy ten times out of ten
Anonymous No.718990053
>>718985770
it's reddit I mean
they can't admit they're wrong, neither can /v/ but that's besides the point
Anonymous No.718990206 >>718990274
>>718989487
WHOEVER OWNS THE RIGHTS DICTATE THE LORE, CHUD!!!
Anonymous No.718990220
>>718987954
because everyone is glazing nv
Anonymous No.718990238
>>718985498
Emil has said that Fallout weren't about capitslism though
Anonymous No.718990241 >>718993828 >>719001024
>>718987350
nuking the world for 10% more profits is exactly what every big corporation would do, the unrealistic part is that they kind of argue over it.
Anonymous No.718990262
>>718989151
>The guy that will pay you immensely more for Nevada snowglobes than the actual tools with which to reclaim the wasteland and start making his way back to space.
dear god, how can you be so fucking retarded
Anonymous No.718990274
>>718990206
canon is misspelled
Anonymous No.718990305
>>718986445
>an entire DLC for Avellone to write his hate letter to fallout as a setting for daring to move past 'bombed out shithole'
Anonymous No.718990320
>>718989884
Because it's evil if you don't. Are you alright.
Anonymous No.718990330 >>718990390
>>718987567
holy god the set and props and costumes are so fucking bad, this looks like it took 3 hours to put together and shoot. I wonder how many times someone said "good enough" in the editing process.
Anonymous No.718990390
>>718990330
What's bad about it?
Anonymous No.718990419 >>718990441 >>718997824
hahahahaha
Anonymous No.718990441
>>718990419
Spaceballs:
Anonymous No.718990465 >>718990676 >>718990860
God, I hope Ulysses is still dead.
Anonymous No.718990676 >>718990809
>>718990465
>you should feel bad because you delivered a package
No, Ulysses. I don't feel bad. Plus, it's a federal offense to open other people's mail. Fuck you.
Anonymous No.718990757 >>718990863
>>718984957 (OP)
He got redpilled by ME TOO and Asmongold/Critical Drinker
Anonymous No.718990809
>>718990676
>federal offense
>outside any polity
wew
At least call it a breach of their mutual organization' trust.
Anonymous No.718990854 >>718991741
>>718986921
He could make it big with an indie developers doing an RPG but he has no awareness and social media presence to get in touch with anyone
Anonymous No.718990860 >>719000775
>>718990465
>Ulysses went crazy after people started copying his people's dreads.

What did New Vegas mean by this?
Anonymous No.718990863 >>718990997 >>718992060
>>718990757
>gets drunk and texts a girl (who was already into him) that he wanted to eat her pussy
>sobers up the next morning and apologizes
>she accepts
>nearly a decade later, when his career is going well, she finally decides to "out" him
>he loses quite a few high profile jobs
I've honestly never seen a more bullshit metoo "scandal" in my life. Holy shit, I'm still mad for him.
Anonymous No.718990938 >>718990995
>>718987226
Planescape Torment was the ultimate Sigma male story. It's crazy nobody tried to adapt that for a new game or a movie, it would be the next Joker 1 movie level of popularity
Anonymous No.718990995 >>718991106
>>718990938
A what male?
Anonymous No.718990997
>>718990863
RPG industry by that time was run over by SIMP snoyboys white nerds doing anything for pussy. Chris had no chance to recover. Now its ran by Karens and its not worth returning to
Anonymous No.718991002 >>718991189
>>718986820
You'd become an asshole too if all being such a nice guy lands you is being catfished, lawsuits, and loss of your jobs.
Anonymous No.718991106
>>718990995
Sigma balls
Anonymous No.718991121
>>718989621
Because he is pissed people he thought friends would readily betray him for brownie points. Only a few had enough backbones to defend him.
>>718989756
He shittalked obsidian after obsidian sided with the lying cunt and still won't apologize after he cleared his name.
Anonymous No.718991170
>>718989884
I'd say he did a right thing considering how they treated him during the accusations. It's wild how you feel no shame abusing victims like this.
Anonymous No.718991189 >>718991492
>>718991002
Maybe, but when you choose to become an asshole then you also forfeit sympathy. It's just the way it is.
Anonymous No.718991223
>>718986178
They do this so proles could vent their pent up anger against corpos in imaginary scenarios so that there's no energy left for real action
Anonymous No.718991258 >>718992164 >>718992505
>>718985770
>He's still blacklisted and it makes no sense. Even if all the allegations were true, he kissed a girl when he was drunk. Like that's all the dirt they have on him.

Its not about whether its true or not. Its not even about if its right or wrong. Its about the emotional validation they get from judging others. Its virtue signaling, they're better people than he is and you know they are because of how judgemental they are.
Anonymous No.718991395
>>718986921
I don't think Chris Avellone has anything that would make him a useful Federal informant so what's your point?
Anonymous No.718991425
>>718989021
Because there's barely any food
Anonymous No.718991434
>>718987567

I mean these seem to be cultist lunatics which is in keeping with Fallout. The show isn't presenting these weirdos as being the protagonists are they?
Anonymous No.718991490
>>718989153
I just realised I have tactics in my library and that I've never played it. Let's give it a shot
Anonymous No.718991492 >>718991614
>>718991189
Nope. I sympathize with assholes who turned out the way they are because of the injustice they received in their lives. Those who spite such assholes are themselves assholes, and I hold no sympathy for the latter kind.
Anonymous No.718991514
>2025
>people are still getting filtered by Lonesome Road
Anonymous No.718991614 >>718992036
>>718991492
Sounds like you're just an asshole then
Anonymous No.718991661
>>718989621
Avellone was already excomunicated, staying quiet and well-behaved wouldn't have made a difference.
Anonymous No.718991682
say hello to Chris because he's probably reading this thread
Anonymous No.718991741
>>718990854
Avellone has tons of contacts with the industry and he could walk into any team and immediately bring attention to the project. He knows that.

He just isn't interested in heading projects anymore. He'll do consulting work and he's happy with it. Which is a shame because his directed games were all 10/10 but what can you do.
Anonymous No.718991745 >>718992074 >>718992181 >>718992334
>>718988231
>Vanilla New Vegas establishes that the NCR is about 5 seconds away from splintering or otherwise experiencing collapse.
No it isn't.
>Lonesome Road gives you the option to nuke the entirety of California and Arizona, leaving only Nevada
No, you nuke the Long 15 and Dry Wells only.
>it's set up that the Tunnelers will eventually start fucking up the region too.
Even the midwit NCR troopers worked out that Tunnellers are scared of bright light.
You are a secondary.
Anonymous No.718991769
>>718985674
Yea it’s kind of insane to blame Capitalism for a global nuclear war, like where is the profit in that?
There are other retarded things to blame instead, like rampant paranoia and extreme cold war hostility just like IRL
Anonymous No.718991773
>>718984957 (OP)
lol, based
Anonymous No.718992016
>>718987625
>trailer is nonstop memberberries
so unbelievably cringe. worst part is that all the goyboy β€œfallout fans” will slurp it up and call it kino
>>718987954
because todd and bethesda are immensely retarded and gay
Anonymous No.718992036 >>718992257
>>718991614
Yes, but I'm the kind of asshole that love shitting on assholes who hurt people and turn them into assholes, like you.
Anonymous No.718992060
>>718990863
>nearly a decade later
Women, man, we should fucking kidnap that asshole Zeus and nail him to a cross for putting that evil on mankind.
Anonymous No.718992074 >>718992319
>>718991745
>The history of the West was erased for the second time, thorough and complete
So when you hear this, you think all of the NCR and Legion, both military and civilian, were in Dry Wells and walking the Long 15 at that exact moment
Anonymous No.718992113 >>718992769
>>718986884
The word 'China' literally isn't uttered a single time in the entire show.
Anonymous No.718992121
>>718988572
>defending this slop in any way
>calls others dumbass
jej
Anonymous No.718992164
>>718991258
Being judgemental is red flag in my book. I always find characters who preach morals in extreme capacity to people untrustworthy and most of the time they often turn out to be villains themselves.
Anonymous No.718992181 >>718992436
>>718991745
>Vanilla New Vegas establishes that the NCR is about 5 seconds away from splintering or otherwise experiencing collapse.
>No it isn't.

The NCR is over extended. I wouldn't say its going to collapse; but it becomes pretty apparent that they only want to control Vegas so they can exploit its resources to fuel their growth and they aren't likely to actually improve the lives of the people living there.

That's why House is the better option.
Anonymous No.718992198
>Bethesda forgot or simply wasn't aware that the NCR was founded by vault dwellers so Hank had no reason to nuke them
Anonymous No.718992254
why do people care about fallout so much
Anonymous No.718992256 >>718992435 >>718995145
>>718984957 (OP)
>>718985770
I dunno why some people try to treat this guy like the Kirkbride of Fallout when he has made notbing but garbage since New Vegas.
Anonymous No.718992257 >>718992430
>>718992036
>but I'm the kind of asshole that love shitting on assholes who hurt people and turn them into assholes
And the problem is, this depends on actually being able to make that distinction, and the reason that people like you and Avellone get called assholes if because you routinely fail to be able to do so. It's why you lose all sympathy and justification. You're not any kind of asshole, you're just an asshole.
Anonymous No.718992268
>>718984957 (OP)
must be ironic
Anonymous No.718992319 >>718992516
>>718992074
>200 year old facility where most of the missiles having already blown up underground is a vital plot point
>Nuking the Legion results in nuking only Dry Wells
>Nuking the NCR results in nuking only the Long 15
>Nuking both somehow results in both the entirety of the NCR and the entirety of the Legion being nuked, not just the Long 15 and Dry Wells
Retard.
Anonymous No.718992327
>>718984957 (OP)
He's upset that he has no media literacy.
Anonymous No.718992334 >>718992416 >>718992647
>>718991745
>Vanilla New Vegas establishes that the NCR is about 5 seconds away from splintering or otherwise experiencing collapse.
>No it isn't
So when you hear
>rampant and unending inflation
>economic infighting
>endless corruption
>ongoing drought
>farms turning to dust
>total lack of faith in the military, to the point that it's self-sabotaging and literally suicidal
You think
>wow this country is totally stable
Anonymous No.718992374
>>718989487
Nah millions watched and loved the first season. You lost.
Anonymous No.718992379
>>718984957 (OP)
it must've hurt that noone in the industry tried to defend him
all his colleagues turned back on him
Anonymous No.718992416
>>718992334
Nta but you're over exaggerating things.
One guy in bumfuck nowhere sabotaging the military after getting demoralized is not total lack of faith in the military.
Anonymous No.718992430 >>718992715
>>718992257
The thing here is, you wrote up all that shit and you couldn't even sense the irony. The difference between us is I don't play pretend ;You're an asshole but think you aren't one, which just makes you a worse kind of asshole.
Anonymous No.718992435
>>718992256
So what has Kirkbride made recently then?
Anonymous No.718992436 >>718992906
>>718992181
The NCR is only there for the electricity. If they lose the Mojave, then their industry loses a lot of electricity and they'll have to generate some in some other way, like building and renovating power stations in California.
House's problem is that he doesn't have the heavy industry to build his high-tech industry on.
Anonymous No.718992445
>>718989487
More people have watched the show than played NV
Anonymous No.718992493
>>718984957 (OP)
He's apathetic and think it's lame and gay, and he thinks "capitalism bad" is a trite sentiment regurgitated by braindead normies at this point.
And I'm projecting but I think he'd agree anyway.
Anonymous No.718992505
>>718991258
i'm something of a social theorist myself
Anonymous No.718992516 >>718992724
>>718992319
>Nuking the Legion results in nuking only Dry Wells
>Nuking the NCR results in nuking only the Long 15
No, nuking the Legion and the NCR also results in you nuking Arizona and California. Dry Wells and the Long 15 are just the places you can visit, and are stated to be in addition to the rest of the devastation. You just have the object permanence of a child.
Anonymous No.718992530 >>718992716
>>718985674
Thankfully none of this happens under a hyper capitalistic system hmmmm
Anonymous No.718992631 >>718992679 >>718993098
>Be Bethesda designing Fallout 3
>Make it canonical that it never rains in the capital wasteland, and every plant is canonically dead
>Then make every town well fed with ample water
>The plot will of course be that there is a water shortage, which no NPC actually talks about
What the fuck happened to this IP?
Anonymous No.718992647 >>718993089
>>718992334
>rampant and unending inflation
Gold reserves being blown up over some retarded war. Inflation, yes, but not rampant and unending.
>economic infighting
Source?
>endless corruption
Every government has corruption.
>ongoing drought
>farms turning to dust
Only sources are an unreliable retard, a guy whose entire character is about exaggerating things, and an actually reliable farmer talking about one farm in particular.
>total lack of faith in the military, to the point that it's self-sabotaging and literally suicidal
Again, one guy.
A government having problems is not the same as it inevitably going to collapse.
Anonymous No.718992679 >>718992791
>>718992631
You gave it to HIM
Anonymous No.718992715
>>718992430
>You're an asshole but think you aren't one
>which just makes you a worse kind of asshole
This line of thinking is a big part of why you're an asshole. Thank god I'm not one, I'd hate to be like that.
Anonymous No.718992716 >>718997265
>>718992530
China was hyper capitalist???
Anonymous No.718992724 >>718992797
>>718992516
No, the other two endings specifically only mention those two places. The place is 200 years old and most of the nukes already blew up in their silos because of that package.
Anonymous No.718992769
>>718992113
Probably so they can air it in china lmao
Anonymous No.718992789 >>718992915 >>718992981 >>718993529 >>718993802
Reminder that Fallout has no large scale industry even by the time of New Vegas. There is zrro proof of large scale industry or reindustrulization. All we have is proof of advanced cities like Vault City and Shady Sands seperated by 100s of mioes of desert with no powerlines, no roads, and no large scale vehicle usage by Fallout 2. We see none of that change by New Vegas.

You are going off literal head cananon and the 700 thousand citizen statement that proves nothing but them having a bunch of useless squatters they tax.

NCR simps are in denial after the TV show showed just what a untamed shit hole California really is. That doesn't happen unless your "goverment" is completely irreleavent to every settlement it claims to control.
Anonymous No.718992791 >>718993389
>>718992679
>FO4
>Your son has spent the last 60 years killing surface dwellers, destroying their cities, releasing mutant monsters and killer cyborg death-squads
>He gets to the surface to see how fucked up everything is, by his own actions for SIXTY FUCKING YEARS
>"I knew there'd be nothing worth saving up here, look around!"
The fucking characters have schizophrenia.
Anonymous No.718992797
>>718992724
>No, the other two endings specifically only mention those two places
No, the other two endings mention that the nukes hit the respective territories AND those two locations.
Anonymous No.718992847
>>718987567
>shows that NCR commies are a fucking cult
Pretty based on them actually
Anonymous No.718992906
>>718992436
>House's problem is that he doesn't have the heavy industry to build his high-tech industry on.

I don't really care if he can't realize his space man dreams. The locals have electricity and a robot army to keep them safe. That's a better deal then they're going to get from anyone else.
Anonymous No.718992915
>>718992789
Explain what are Gun Runners then.
Anonymous No.718992919
>>718984957 (OP)
gigabased
Anonymous No.718992941
>>718988572
If the writing was better they wouldn't have to do any of that
Anonymous No.718992978
>>718988289
Ok Troon
Anonymous No.718992981 >>718993105
>>718992789
Reminder in Fallout 3 apparently humanity can create energy out of nothing because people have survived 200+ years in an area with a missing biosphere.
Anonymous No.718993038
>>718988289
but fallout 3 is canon in NV though
Anonymous No.718993081
>>718985770
Anon... you're talking about the left, more precisely progressives, more precisely the Californian subtype and fucking Plebbit. When was the last time they let themselves bothered by facts? It's all about virtue signalling and fee-fees. As if they were living in a post-factual world where everything it judged whether supports their agendas or not. If they ever get wind of that maybe (!) you're not down with the business you're stained forever and they won't mingle with you anymore. Even if they're proven wrong beyond any doubt doubling down is the only reaction in their toolbox. What did you expect?

After committing a big mistake at the beginning Avellone got his shit together, got some professional help and handled the rest of the case exemplary. I can only recommend the site he put together where he eviscerates the case bit by bit. Working in the industry again was never really in the cards, but the defamation money should keep the lights on while he finds a second career. And hey, indie projects or the few AA devs who's about game development instead of globalist activism might give him a bone here and there. Owlcat might've been the only studio he worked with who publicly upheld the presume of innocence, the rest buried him the moment the allegations came out.
Anonymous No.718993089 >>718993408
>>718992647
>economic infighting
>Source?
What, did you just miss the part where the game's main currency is bottlecaps? The Hub started to back the currency again, a clear bid for economic control that puts the state in direct competition with the NCR Dollar, especially since that one is just fiat currency. With water being all the more vital in the ongoing droughts and the end of above-ground aquifers, it's a devastation move by The Hub to start circulating water-backed currency.
Anonymous No.718993098 >>718993171
>>718992631
The plot was about the lack of clean water. The water present isn't suitable for drinking. The land is desertified due to climate changes from the bombs. DC irl gets really hot already. The ecosystem isn't completely dead as there's enough to sustain molerats, radroaches and the like
Anonymous No.718993105 >>718993171
>>718992981
They can just scavenge for food from supermarkets
Anonymous No.718993135
>>718985770
avellone has been a guns-for-hire one-off writer for like the last decade, all so that various games could put FEATURING CHARACTER FROM CHRIS AVELLONE SERIES on the box
while the whole thing is undeniably shitty, i don't think it's the end of the world for the guy, he likely still does some not too public consulting work if alexis kennedy's blog is to be believed
Anonymous No.718993171 >>718993460 >>718993651
>>718993098
The ecosystem is CANONICALLY dead, you can bitch to Todd Howard if you don't like that. There's no bacteria, no plant-life, nothing.
And nobody complains about a lack of water except for three guys who are more likely just homeless bums because no matter how much water you give them they still complain.
>>718993105
Oh of course, for 200 years lol
Anonymous No.718993182 >>718993245 >>718993413 >>718993749 >>719002078
>>718987113
>>718986921
see, this is why whitoids always lose, laidoff guys due to blm? not my problem, gooks malding at smoldick joke? lol what a faggit, guys who claimed extremist Muslims should be deported sentenced to 10 years in prison? NOT-MY-PROBLEM
whitoids deserved to be beheaded, raped, dismembered alive like piggys, it's not about christcuck virtue, whitoids are built like that.
end whitoids and start new generation with muslims
Anonymous No.718993207
>>718987226
>>718987307
Typical behaviour from them
Anonymous No.718993245
>>718993182
>and start new generation with muslims
You say this but don't actually want this.
Anonymous No.718993254 >>718993337 >>718993420 >>718993650 >>718994757 >>718995279 >>718995850 >>719000251
>>718984957 (OP)
Why did he say this?
Anonymous No.718993306
>>718985770
Shit like this is why Vidya sucks these days, only faggots are allowed in the industry.
Anonymous No.718993312
>>718984957 (OP)
What a Chad. Can someone hire this man already!?
Anonymous No.718993337
>>718993254
misogyny bad
Anonymous No.718993365
>>718985770
Rape-apologism? On my /v/?
Anonymous No.718993389 >>718993445 >>718993697
>>718992791
The area was doing fine until the Gunner invasion shortly before you woke up and as well the collapse of the provincial government. The super mutants weren't released until recently. Synths destroyed one settlement to steal blueprints for a reactor, but for the most part they operate clandestinely. It was around maybe 15 years at most that the Institute gave up trying to cooperate with the surface
Anonymous No.718993408 >>718993963
>>718993089
Or, you know, everywhere that wasn't the NCR used bottlecaps, and the destruction of the gold reserves meant that the NCR dollar is now a fiat currency and inflation is happened.
Chief Hanlon's entire quest is about him exaggerating or straight-up making problems up.
Anonymous No.718993413 >>718993759 >>719002078
>>718993182
IMO only 1% of whitoids worth living, 99% of whitoids are cucked, severly retarded, only eat chips & cheap beers, and wasting his life do dump pile of shit like football, wwe, jewwoodsop, shitty fps etc, only 1% of their genes worth living, who ruled, invented, declare war, conquer the whole world
Anonymous No.718993420
>>718993254
Knees soggy, mom's spaghetti
Anonymous No.718993425
>>718986921
>somehow jewish plants still make money
WOW!
Anonymous No.718993445 >>718993545
>>718993389
Canonically they've been replacing people, destroying cities and releasing mutants for decades lmao. And then he dares to bitch that the surface is fucked.
Anonymous No.718993456 >>718993763 >>718995556
>>718987954
East Cost is the best always has been since Chadout 3
Anonymous No.718993460 >>718993503
>>718993171
I don't know where it was stated that the ecosystem was dead when cannonically there are still animals like molerats and mirelurks who are able to survive
Anonymous No.718993503 >>718993593
>>718993460
>I don't know how the ecosystem is dead when there's big monsters running around
Yeah, Bethesda didn't think about that either, which is why the game is fucking stupid.
Anonymous No.718993529
>>718992789
By Fallout 1, the Gun Runners exist. By Fallout 2, there are garages and parking spaces, so clearly some people have cars again, and cars need a lot of industry. By Fallout New Vegas, the NCR has trains, cement plants, mass-refurbishes rifles, and can equip its troops with standardised leather armour. The NCR is around late-1800s/early-1900s level of development. You are a secondary.
>Muh TV show
kek
Anonymous No.718993545 >>718993567
>>718993445
>for decades
That was only after they failed to negotiate to become part of the government which wasn't that long before.
Anonymous No.718993567 >>718993725
>>718993545
They've literally been raiding and releasing mutants for ages.
Anonymous No.718993578
>>718985674
They could have done the same, like let them nook China to take over their land and resources, but then shit gets out of control. But no, nooook everything, we will make so much money controlling that irradiated wasteland full of retards, that makes perfect sense.
Anonymous No.718993583 >>718994212 >>718995556
>>718988289
Anonymous No.718993593
>>718993503
But the game never says the ecosystem is dead. It's just desertified. There can be life in the desert especially when water is present
Anonymous No.718993645
The TV show is absolutely awful, and /v/ only likes it because you guys are like 19 and have only played 76.
Anonymous No.718993650
>>718993254
>Misogyny
What a faggot. He could have made the Legion an interesting evil faction, but he has to make them shallow because they are hecking chuds.
Anonymous No.718993651 >>718993695
>>718993171
>There's no bacteria
That's impossible
>no plant-life
What the fuck is picrelated then?
>Oh of course, for 200 years lol
Dunno man, the MC finds plenty of edible food in supermarkets
It's just there
Anonymous No.718993663
is this a "hate newspapers" reference
Anonymous No.718993695
>>718993651
Nta but oasis is a bit too limited to give it much value.
Anonymous No.718993697
>>718993389
The collapse of the provincial government was because of the Institute's interference.
Anonymous No.718993704 >>718993805 >>718993873 >>718995556
>>718986008
Ha you just have to accept that your tranny game is now non-canon filler
Anonymous No.718993725
>>718993567
Source? They've been scavenging using first and second gen synths since they've existed. The purpose of the gen 3s was that they wouldn't neex to raid if they just infiltrated and set up supply chains. The super mutants weren't released until later on before they abandoned the project which was not too long before vergil left
Anonymous No.718993749 >>719002078
>>718993182
... at this point muslims are way more white than mutts so ok
Anonymous No.718993759
>>718993413
>99% of whitoids are cucked, severly retarded, only eat chips & cheap beers, and wasting his life do dump pile of shit like football, wwe, jewwoodsop, shitty fps etc,
Same is true for all other races except it's 100%
Anonymous No.718993763
>>718993456
>West Coast BOS bad
>East Coast BOS good
Both BOS are good, you're just a retard.
Anonymous No.718993802
>>718992789
>Reminder that Fallout has no large scale industry even by the time of New Vegas
What about 4 with a big ass ironworks plant?
What about 4 with its Institute?

I MEAN 4 is non-canon, but you seem to count the faggot show which is even less canon
Anonymous No.718993805
>>718993704
This depiction of New Vegas is based, finally some fucking roleplaying in my RPG
Anonymous No.718993828
>>718990241
How do you make 10% more profits if everyone is dead
Anonymous No.718993873 >>718994164
>>718993704
>pic
i don't get it
is new vegas one supposed to be bad?
Anonymous No.718993887
>>718988293
>>718985770
was it fair compensation?
Anonymous No.718993963 >>718994242
>>718993408
>Or, you know, everywhere that wasn't the NCR used bottlecaps
Good for them, but the proliferation of bottlecaps in the Mojave is explicitly tied to The Hub, thanks to the Long 15. Maybe play the game first and actually talk to people, dumbass. The game beats you over the head with how much The Hub is tied to the region. For Christ's sake, even you, the player, ARE A COURIER FOR COMPANY THAT'S RUN OUT OF THE HUB.
Anonymous No.718994107
>>718984957 (OP)
Capitalism is bad.
Anonymous No.718994108
>>718986921
The spic and trustfund kid are literally controlled opposition.
I bet you think both are pro Trump too lmao
Anonymous No.718994119
Anonymous No.718994164 >>718994380 >>718994484 >>718995556
>>718993873
Chadout 3 is far superior to that of Troon Vegays
Anonymous No.718994178 >>718994316
>Fallout TV show set in California uses (very bad and superficial) references to the actual games
>/v/: aaaaAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEE!?!?!? IT'S PANDERING TO TRANNIES!?!? WHERE'S OPTIMUS PRIME!?!
Anonymous No.718994212 >>718994424 >>718994510
>>718993583
sorry, but I can't take fallout 3 seriously, I don't know if anybody can.
It's retarded beyond believe
Anonymous No.718994242 >>718994305 >>718994314
>>718993963
So why do they also use caps in Washington D.C. and Massachusetts? Does the Hub's influence stretch that far by Fallout 3 and 4, or is it just the fact that caps are everywhere because of how popular Nuka-Cola was and there's a finite supply of 200 year old caps, which keeps inflation under control?
Anonymous No.718994293
>>718985770
>He's still blacklisted
hes not
Anonymous No.718994305 >>718994458
>>718994242
you know why, don't play stupid
Anonymous No.718994314
>>718994242
No that's just bethesda incompetence and lack of understanding when it comes to the fallout setting.
Anonymous No.718994316
>>718994178
Fuck you, Liberty Prime is awesome.
Anonymous No.718994328 >>718994382
>>718985770
I don't think he's blacklisted anymore. You won't see studios advertising him like they used to, but I think he still gets work.
Anonymous No.718994380
>>718994164
I kill all ghouls
I kill synths
I kill mutants
Regarding that pic, Tenpenny Tower was comphy place...
um what else....fuck fallout 3?
Anonymous No.718994382 >>718994907 >>718997369
>>718994328
>I don't think he's blacklisted anymore
he never was
Anonymous No.718994395
>>718984957 (OP)
He is pissed after watching season 1 and realizing it is 100% leftist woke propaganda and made a snide comment about season 2 trailerβ€”pretty based
Anonymous No.718994424 >>718994453
>>718994212
I'd tap Antagonizer
Anonymous No.718994453
>>718994424
you'd tap a dogmeat
Anonymous No.718994458 >>718994550
>>718994305
You're the one that's playing dumb. Over a year of running damage control for the TV show because everyone decided that it's retarded, so you write headcanons based on dialogue from a mediocre game where the writers really liked the tropes of every faction being morally grey and many characters being unreliable narrators, instead of actually playing the game.
Anonymous No.718994484 >>718994835
>>718994164
>bloody bastards
So it's indians who make these images?
Anonymous No.718994510
>>718994212
Chadout 3 is the best Fallout and it’s clear that you troons have no understanding of themes and do not understand the depth of that so called goofy quest you posted
The Superhuman Gambit is put kino
It perfectly captures the classic gold and silver age comics and serials but brining a tragic backstory and drama based in tragic irony while at the same time commenting on the nature of good Vs evil
You outed yourself as the typical Troon Vegays midwit
Anonymous No.718994545
>>718987567
>full bellies all of them
the post apocalypse is treating them well I see
Anonymous No.718994550 >>718994647
>>718994458
suck a fart out of my asshole you retarded faggot
Anonymous No.718994647
>>718994550
What a strange thing to say, you disgusting faggot. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to play a video game (one that isn't NV) instead of having the same arguments on /v/ again.
Anonymous No.718994687 >>718994801
>>718986008
Given that we aren't getting Fallout 5 this decade, I really wouldn't worry about it. F3 already fucked up a ton of lore with east coast super mutants and somehow both sucking off and flanderizing the BoS at the same time. F4 is just retarded from top to bottom and doesn't give a fuck about anything established in previous games except as jumping off point (jumping into a septic tank).
Feels weird to say that Fallout has actually had the principles of its setting raped more than TES (ESO is not only not canon, it's not even fanfiction and nobody pays any attention to it).
The only time 'canon' matters is when it affects future material. If lore from the show affects the story in F5 then that sucks. If it has literally no impact on future titles then it doesn't matter and isn't real, assuming you dislike it. If you did like a lore thing that was ignored in future games it's still canon. You personally will always be the arbiter of canon, not the IP holder. They cannot control your mind.
Anonymous No.718994749 >>718994902 >>718996025
The Fallout 3jeets are mad
Anonymous No.718994756
>>718986820
>A lot of companies will just not want to touch anyone that's been embroiled in a controversy, no matter the circumstances.
Sorta, executives have switched to risk mitigation at all costs because there is now a complete timeline of your working history and any controversies that happened under it. Execs know if X happens while you are in charge then you aren't getting another exec job because the jobs are so competitive. Especially when you don't really do anything.

The top is filled with nepobabies and the most fragile retards possible who so their ride to the 'top' as a house of cards ready to crash at anytime.
Anonymous No.718994757
>>718993254
listen man, i didn't make women inferior to men on purpose. they just evolved that way
Anonymous No.718994782
>>718984957 (OP)
He's taking the piss out of the writers lol
Anonymous No.718994801 >>718994931
>>718994687
>raped more than TES
TES was made by shithesda from the start, there was no lore to fuck up
It's all random retarded bullshit all the time, so they can roll with it in each game just adding another meaningless bullshit
Unlike Fallout which, you know, has Fallout Bible
Anonymous No.718994835
>>718994484
Always has been
The whole chad 3 troon NV dichotomy is a forced poo "meme". God knows I'd they are just mentally ill or also hired shills.
Anonymous No.718994882 >>718995036
>>718985674
so capitalism in a nutshell?
Anonymous No.718994902 >>718996025
>>718994749
I was recently thinking about it (again)
This was one of the most retarded things in any game I played in my entire life
>uhhhhh yeah, I can just walk in and turn the switch on, I literally don't care about the radiation inside
>but nuh-uh, sweetie, you go in, hehe
>yeah, I know you will die
>go die, hehe
Anonymous No.718994907
>>718994382
He did lose work because of the accusations, though. He was dropped from multiple games and apparently his writing got scrubbed,
Anonymous No.718994931 >>718995245
>>718994801
>this setting is bad because it's uhhh... random (no, i won't elaborate)
>this setting is good because it has established lore that isn't adhered to and has been overwritten with every game since its creation
Anonymous No.718995034
>>718985770
It's like when Mike Z was fired from his own company for "sexual misconduct" that literally amounted to Twitter DM's and nothing else. And when John Lasseter was fired from Pixar for the same reason which just amounted to hugs, which I see people do all the time in office parties.
I standby that #Metoo was a ploy to get good industry workers forcibly out and replaced with faggot agenda niggers.
Anonymous No.718995036
>>718994882
China was capitalist?
Anonymous No.718995145 >>718995392
>>718992256
>David Bowie was shit after X album
Who cares retard, he has written some of the best stories in video games. Also Prey came out after New Vegas and was good, the pathfinder games were also ok.
Anonymous No.718995245 >>718995423 >>719003623
>>718994931
>this setting is bad because it's uhhh...
Have you played the tes games?
It's all the same random bullshit

>overwritten with every game
Only 1, 2 and NV matter. The lore is pretty consistent in those
Anonymous No.718995279
>>718993254
>Takes about misogyny in peak woke culture
>Gets cancelled months later
>Realises woke culture is a work
Pottery
Anonymous No.718995374
>>718988045
They filmed the first season in Africa and the East Coast. They only started filming in California this season
Anonymous No.718995392 >>718995824
>>718995145
>he has written some of the best stories in video games
no he hasnt
Anonymous No.718995423 >>718996335
>>718995245
LMAO
Anonymous No.718995556
>>718993456
>>718993583
>>718993704
>>718994164
If you want me to disagree with you on principle, just accompany your opinions with wojaks and gigachads.
Anonymous No.718995771 >>718996270
>>718984957 (OP)
This was always one of the prevailing fan theories. That out of control corporate greed and lust for power led to the war. Other potential causes were:

>Murica did it
>China did it
>AYY LMAOs did it

Soooo of course, /tv/ being/tv/, shits itself in an impotent rage to hate something people like. Just like /v/. Its not like they rolled out some old guy with spray tan and a mop on his head named Tonald Drumpf and said "he did it all on his own cuz hims hands small n tiny peepee ahahahah" like was common half a decade ago. They took an already commonly accepted fan theory and canonized it. For fucks sake they didnt even degrade Mr House in doing so because thar guy was already a fucking supervillain.
Anonymous No.718995824
>>718995392
Amazing argument I concede
:^)
Anonymous No.718995850
>>718993254
>I'm okay with slavery but saying mean things about women is where I draw the line!
Anonymous No.718995854
>>718989021
hey wanted ugly extras
easy to be ugly when your fat
Anonymous No.718996025 >>718997945
>>718994749
>>718994902
>Troonout Neo Vagina fags can’t understand sacrifice or destiny
You have no honour
Anonymous No.718996202 >>718996350 >>718996404
SAAR DO NOT REDEEM WATER PURIFIER
https://youtu.be/QxvxVS8RGJY
Anonymous No.718996270 >>718997312
>>718995771
>Ignore the canon of the series.
>Because a bunch of ideologues on plebbit said capitalism bad.
That's literally the definition of co-opting.

Also, corporate greed? How do they maximize profits by killing 99% of their customer base. This is retarded.
Anonymous No.718996335
>>718995423
>this setting is bad because it's uhhh...
You're indian
Anonymous No.718996350 >>718996418 >>718996453
>>718996202
>Troon Vegays cope video
Kek so predictable
Anonymous No.718996404
>>718996202
This image lives rent free in my game for years
Every time I think about Fallout 3 I remember this toilet drinking character

Every Fallout 3 fan is a toilet drinker, honestly
Anonymous No.718996418 >>718996789
>>718996350
>Courier are pronouns
>I will saving them
You really are Indian...
Anonymous No.718996440 >>718996789
good morning saar do not redeem the vegays
Anonymous No.718996453 >>718996789
>>718996350
>time for you to died
You're embarrassing yourself with these images
Anonymous No.718996789 >>718996930
>>718996418
>>718996440
>>718996453
Cope all you have is nickpicking not arguments
Anonymous No.718996930
>>718996789
good morning sirs
Anonymous No.718997239 >>718997481
Anonymous No.718997254
>>718989153
Only if you're huge into Fallout. It's the best-written non-Interplay/Obsidian Fallout game. Unfortunately, the gameplay is abysmal and it will take you ~40-60 hours to complete the entire thing. First ~10 hours are sort of fun, but you can see the cracks from the start. Instead of focusing on what it does relatively well (story, dialogue) or what it doesn't do enough of (role-playing elements), it focuses on combat, the absolute worst part of the experience. And the more you play it, the more they double down on it, making an already difficult and broken system even more difficult and broken with every mission.

It's not a good tactical game (perception doesn't affect sequence, formations don't work, stealth barely functions, both real-time and turn-based mode are equally broken but in different ways), it's not a good isometric shooter (no mouselook, surprise attacks are broken, enemy selection is pixel-perfect, critical hits too critical for a fun time), it's not a good role-playing game (skills don't affect story, skill checks extremely underutilized), so in the end it just isn't particularly good at anything other than the story. Even then, there are some massive plot holes that make it hard to call the game canon.

If it was 30 hours shorter, I'd recommend it, but it's not really worth it unless again, you're huge into Fallout.
Anonymous No.718997265
>>718992716
China is capitalist. If giant Chinese corporations aren't big giveaway to you, then idk...
Anonymous No.718997282
>>718986528
>I don't know where the fuck they pull these randos from
Jamie, pull that shit up.
Anonymous No.718997312
>>718996270
>ignore the Canon of the series
Explain. They've left the how and the why of the war purposefully vague and ambiguous for decades on purpose. What's they ignore.

>center in on corporate greed
>completely ignore lust for power
>call others retards
Anonymous No.718997369 >>718997446
>>718994382
Dying Light 2 sucks because he got fired mid-production and they had to not use any of his written material, Broseph.
Anonymous No.718997446 >>718997552 >>718997768
>>718997369
an action game sucks because it doesn't have Chris Avellone writing? Would Into The Breach suck if it didn't have Chris Avellone writing?
Anonymous No.718997481
>>718997239
Anonymous No.718997490
>>718989089
Midwest has been canon since Fallout 3. NV validated their canonization.
Anonymous No.718997552 >>718997592
>>718997446
This thread is talking about writing and the man in question is widely known as a writer. Sorry, I thought you weren't brown and were above 80 IQ. My mistake!
Here's the response you deserve instead:
Fucking brown pajeet fucking retard; learn English.
Anonymous No.718997556 >>718997696 >>718997789
we're the tunnel snakes
Anonymous No.718997564 >>718997614 >>718999360
>>718985674
It's just a different era. Fallout was written not long after the cold war, now we are living through the destruction of the west due to hyper capitalism. It's hacky writing but fallout was never sophisticated to begin with.
Anonymous No.718997592 >>718997649 >>718997692 >>718997729
>>718997552
Did Pillars of Eternity have a good story because Chris Avellone was on the team?
Anonymous No.718997614 >>718997847
>>718997564
>now we are living through the destruction of the west due to hyper capitalism.
you're brainwashed
Anonymous No.718997649 >>718997695
>>718997592
saar do not redeem the unrelated rhetorical question SAAR
Anonymous No.718997692 >>718997732
>>718997592
Yes. Grieving Mother and some of the other pieces Chris worked are well regarded in RPG circles and your faggoty contrarianism doesn't change that.
He didn't write the story.
Retard.
Anonymous No.718997695 >>718997746
>>718997649
The fact that you think Dying Light 2 would have been better if he was on the team means you don't understand a lot about video games or writing in video games
Anonymous No.718997696
>>718997556
Tunnel Snakes rule!
Anonymous No.718997729 >>718997754
>>718997592
Yeah, Pillars actually has a pretty good story. Or good world building at least. Grieving Mother was also pretty damn good.
Anonymous No.718997732 >>718997810
>>718997692
I interacted with one of the characters he made in the game, the other one, and it was fucking terribly written
Anonymous No.718997739
>>718989005
Obviously.
Anonymous No.718997746
>>718997695
the fact that you can't read and are trying to move goalposts means you are sub 80 IQ as stated and likely brown too, as stated.
Anonymous No.718997754 >>718997860
>>718997729
>Pillars actually has a pretty good story.
jesus christ
Anonymous No.718997768 >>718997815
>>718997446
They had to cut all of his writing and basically remake the game in order to rush it out in time. It really fucked the development and we got a shit sequel. I'm still seething about it to this day.
Anonymous No.718997789
>>718997556
I THINK VAULT 101 SUCKS
Anonymous No.718997810 >>718997854
>>718997732
Cool contrarianism, but nah. Notice you said 'the other character' and not its name because you don't actually know what he did on the game (which is why you namedroped it in the first place)
You can go Google it now, but it's pointless. I won, you're embarrassing.
Better luck next time, Redditard.
Anonymous No.718997815 >>718997843 >>718998130
>>718997768
You don't have to remake the entire game because you lost a writer lol
Anonymous No.718997824 >>718999302
>>718990419
>show set in the west coast where the best power armor t51b is the most prevalent
>they still refuse to show it because Bethshit wants to keep pushing their own dogshit power armor designs
Anonymous No.718997843
>>718997815
retard
Anonymous No.718997847 >>718997923 >>718998489 >>718998848
>>718997614
mass immigration has ruined the entire western world. Immigration was pushed by the fucking retards worshipping at the ground of mega corps and gdp figures. The reason people can't afford a house, start a family, get a job that no longer exists because of AI, spend their entire life looking at screens that depress them has nothing to do with corporations and capitalism, sure.
Anonymous No.718997854 >>718998098 >>718998374
>>718997810
He wrote two characters, Durance or something at the grieving mother
Durance was a priest, and had terrible fucking dialog, and way too much of it
Anonymous No.718997860
>>718997754
>if I try to make this about some other game I can move goalposts to that Avellone didn't even write maybe I can win
retard
Anonymous No.718997871 >>718997896 >>718997972
>>718986379
Being publicly shamed and blacklisted does that to a guy.
Anonymous No.718997885
>>718986008
Fallout ended with New Vegas and I couldn't be more satisfied

the last 15 years have thaught me that franchises need to end at some point otherwise you get shit like this
if people want Fallout so badly then they should either make their own or support people who are trying to make spiritual successors
Anonymous No.718997896
>>718997871
>blacklisted
he wasnt
Anonymous No.718997923 >>718998045
>>718997847
the reason you cant afford anything is because the elites take everything for themselves, which isn't captialism
Anonymous No.718997942
Redditors mad ITT
Chris is getting work
You lost
Those lying whores lost (in court)
Metoo is old and busted
Anonymous No.718997945 >>718998235
>>718996025
Your memeshit would have had more impact if Bethshit themselves didnt think the ending was dogshit and retconned it in Broken Steel (for 15$)
Anonymous No.718997972
>>718997871
Actual retarded lolcows that everyone hates and are infamous like Dobson can turn their lives around, but Avellone can only sit on his thumbs and beg for attention on the internet?
Anonymous No.718997981
>>718985770
>>kisses a girl while drunk
But thats not true
She was his long time girlfriend, something she intentionally left out of her accusation, they lived together for 2 years before they split up, she was mad he hooked up with her friend after that
But after she dropped those acusations people who cared instantly dag up her old post where she says she went out to meet him, and they hooked up

Kike gaming "press" which are just glorified bloggers and paid advertisers just didnt bother to look into it at all
Anonymous No.718998045 >>718998114 >>718998501
>>718997923
>the elites take everything for themselves, which isn't captialism
That's hyper capitalism you fucking moron. The reason the new oligarchy in America is a bunch of tech bros isn't some magic force from nowhere, these are all the kings of unregulated capitalism.
Anonymous No.718998098 >>718998201
>>718997854
>Durance was a priest, and had terrible fucking dialog
Absolutely insane take. Durance is one of the best parts of Pillars.
Anonymous No.718998114 >>718998491
>>718998045
They'd do the same through the state if it wasn't captialism
Anonymous No.718998130 >>718998230
>>718997815
You do if you create multiple drafts with over a hundred quests having a big influence over various things. But who knows what the real truth of it all even is. Like a year later or something he claimed he barely had any involvement at all. Is that true? Or was he merely trying to kiss ass to get in their good graces again?
Anonymous No.718998201 >>718998380
>>718998098
Durance is a priest written by a secular person who doesn't understand religion, faith or belief at anything more than a shallow level (which is a problem with the rest of the game too)
Chris also has a terrible writing style where he tries to make characters sound quirky and strange with disjointed, dissonant speech patterns, which comes off as cringe and amateurish to anyone with a brain
And because people have risen him up to be some god of RPG writing he has no sense of when to hold himself back so this guy just never shuts the fuck up
Anonymous No.718998230 >>718998410
>>718998130
Do you think one writer creates all the quests in a game? That's the work of many game designers
Anonymous No.718998235 >>718998314
>>718997945
Broken Steel was based it expanded upon Chadout 3 and actually added post game content something Antifa Vegays could never do even though it’s content needed expanded on the most. Obshitian were to busy making the Rick and Morty DLC than create a DLC that expands on the content because that would mean adding more Legion content that is sorely lacking and they wouldn’t want to do that because Shemale Vegays is Antifa propaganda.
Also the LW rising from the grave like Jesus Christ makes it even more powerful Chadout is literally the Bible.
Anonymous No.718998314 >>718998691
>>718998235
dont care
didnt ask
Anonymous No.718998323
>>718987350
>I think i honestly prefer aliens from Mothership Zeta doing it compared to CAPITALISM BAD
the best part is that they cut that from the game, people only found out by looking at the files

even Bethesda knew that it would be dumb as fuck
Anonymous No.718998374
>>718997854
>and had terrible fucking dialog, and way too much of it
opinion discarded
Anonymous No.718998380 >>718998397
>>718998201
>deranged christcuck
Ah, that explains it.
Anonymous No.718998397 >>718998859
>>718998380
I'm not religious
The game is just about religion and it's written by people who don't know anything about it
It's like blackface
Anonymous No.718998410 >>718998481
>>718998230
No? But creating over a hundred quests and multiple draft stories isn't having any influence at all? Come on now.
Anonymous No.718998481 >>718998662
>>718998410
I just said that writers don't create hundreds of quests
Even if a game has one writer he is not the overlord, the dictator of the game
Anonymous No.718998489 >>718998581
>>718997847
Holy projection. Go outside nigga.
Anonymous No.718998491 >>718998512
>>718998114
>In a magical reality where this didn't happen something else would have happened and I would be right
Nice argument you tard. Next time you call someone brainwashed look in the mirror.
Anonymous No.718998501 >>718998676
>>718998045
Yeah, elites in a communist state TOTALLY don't take wealth for themselves. Right
Anonymous No.718998512
>>718998491
>>In a magical reality where this didn't happen
It's happened for thousands of years retard
Anonymous No.718998513 >>719000830
>>718986178
Yeah? You have millionaires screaming eat the rich lmao
Anonymous No.718998581
>>718998489
Statistics, read them. I have a job and a house. This doesn't change the fact that zoomers are completely fucked and your children are fucked unless you move to east Asia.
Anonymous No.718998662 >>718998719
>>718998481
Okay? And I said that (Chris' own admission), he created over a hundred when he was there writing. If you don't think that has an influence, you're delusional.
Anonymous No.718998669 >>718999108 >>719002475
>>718985770
This is all bullshit because plenty of people falsely accused of rape bounced back.
The ones that don't bounce back don't because of the way they responded to the allegations.
Avellone for example became a bitter doomer that wishes ill upon his former coworkers.
Of course nobody wants to work with someone like that.
Anonymous No.718998676 >>718998748 >>718998848
>>718998501
Why are you even talking about communism? That's completely irrelevant. Crony capitalism doesn't work, neither does communism, regulated capitalism does. You're brainwashed into thinking that any form of regulation is communism when it's purely a control on cancer corps.
Anonymous No.718998691 >>718998758
>>718998314
Cope
Anonymous No.718998719 >>718998984
>>718998662
I suppose it depends what he means by "created"
If he just wrote some dialog or a draft, that's nothing
If they were actually implemented in the game maybe
Anonymous No.718998747
>>718986008
>That's not the problem, the problem is that this is the new canon going forward.
never understood this mentality, the writers clearly do not give a shit about the canon or the source material, so why should you?
Anonymous No.718998748 >>718998885
>>718998676
The point is your world isn't being ruined by capitalism it's being ruined by the same thing that always ruins the world
Anonymous No.718998758
>>718998691
get run over by a train
Anonymous No.718998791 >>718998973
>>718985674
I haven't watched it but that just annoys me because it makes no sense at all? Why would an elite want to kill all their consumers it makes no sense. If you wanna critique capitalism at least make it make sense ffs.
Anonymous No.718998848 >>718998985
>>718998676
It's not irrelevant at all. I was just pointing out how even communists do the same thing. Besides, you're the one (if you're this anon >>718997847 here) that brought up capitalism in the first place.
Anonymous No.718998859 >>718998916
>>718998397
>I'm not religious but I feel I can evaluate this religious game by non religious people who don't know about religion even though I am also not religious but I do
lmao
I'm glad Chris wrote him and not you
Anonymous No.718998871
>I AM THE CHAD, SIR!
>YOU ARE THE SOIJAK WHOSE MOUTH IS OPEN!
Anonymous No.718998885 >>718998960 >>718998976
>>718998748
Which is? Some 70 iq theory about Jews? Some retarded amorphous point about human nature?

This is the specific thing that is destroying the west at this specific moment in time, mass immigration wasn't even possible till this century. You are a retard without a point pretending like you see past it all.
Anonymous No.718998916 >>718999027
>>718998859
I know enough about religion to percieve how phony the whole game feels
Anonymous No.718998960 >>718999278
>>718998885
>Which is?
The elites
They will use capitalism or communism or anything else to put themselves in power and take everything from the rest
Blaming capitalism is dumb
Anonymous No.718998962
>>718984957 (OP)
Goris would 100% say that btw
Anonymous No.718998973
>>718998791
because their understanding of capitalism comes from reddit and twitter

i'm honestly surprised we haven't seen the main character saying that communism is great yet
Anonymous No.718998976 >>718999278
>>718998885
Why is immigration bad?
Anonymous No.718998984 >>718999031
>>718998719
Who knows. We'll probably never know the real truth.
Anonymous No.718998985 >>718999129
>>718998848
Yes, hyper capitalism. You brought up communism to deflect from the fact that unchecked capitalism is in fact destroying the west. When communists were all starving and eating shitty propaganda I'm sure it was very persuasive for retards like you to say "well capitalists would have done this too!"
Anonymous No.718999027 >>718999067
>>718998916
if you had ever actually played the game you might realize why that is
Anonymous No.718999031 >>718999193
>>718998984
Does it matter?
Anonymous No.718999049
>>718985770
These same retards that go on witch hunts like that also elected retards that kicked them out of their houses and jobs
Anonymous No.718999053
>>718986008
The audience decides what is canon, Bethesda could shit out 100 more fallout games and I can just ignore all of them.
Anonymous No.718999067 >>718999125
>>718999027
To subvert religion you have to understand it, and they don't
Their religious characters feel phony and their lore is terrible
Anonymous No.718999108
>>718998669
You’re a giant pussy and I hope terrible things happen to you.
Anonymous No.718999125 >>718999153
>>718999067
nah it's because the god in that game aren't gods you fucking pseud retard
you never played it
As expected of /v/
>I HAVE STRONG OPINION ABOUT THING I HAVE NEVER PLAYED
Anonymous No.718999129 >>718999360
>>718998985
Except you didn't say "hyper capitalism" originally. And don't pretend you can read my mind. Two reasons I brought up communism was because one, you sounded like a communist quite frankly, and two, I was pointing out how even in that system they do the same thing. So how can you even call it the fault of "unchecked capitalism"?
Anonymous No.718999153
>>718999125
I've played it
The plot is turns out gods where created by man and there's a big wheel and the final boss is two big golden guys with hammers
Anonymous No.718999193 >>718999232
>>718999031
Yes. Because Dying Light 2 was so bad that people overwhelmingly prefer the original game.
Anonymous No.718999232 >>718999264
>>718999193
Chris Avellone wouldn't have made it good and he would not have been so integral to an AAA game that removing his work would mean big changes
Anonymous No.718999264 >>718999301
>>718999232
>ignore the shit story is one of the biggest knocks against the game PLEASE IGNORE THAT
retard
Anonymous No.718999278 >>718999337
>>718998960
Ok thanks for confirming you have no argument or world view. This a stupid non stance to take that comes from ignorance, yet a desire to pretend you understand it.
>>718998976
Are you 10 years old? MASS immigration is bad, not immigration. It's from the third world, crime rates go up, iq goes down, rapid population increases make house prices unaffordable and social systems crumble, alienation and resentment of the local population boils and leads to race riots and eventually civil wars. Dissolution of culture and moral structures, formation of ghettos, police begin to retreat, crime goes unpunished, prisons are full, the list goes on and on and on.
Anonymous No.718999301 >>718999650
>>718999264
He wouldn't have made the story good unless he was the lead designer or something
Anonymous No.718999302 >>719000241
>>718997824
except that the T-60 look so much better in 3D than the T-51B
There's a reason why they are wearing the T-45 in fo3 promotional pictures, because the T-51B looks dumb
Anonymous No.718999337 >>718999513 >>719001258
>>718999278
>you have no argument
The argument is the elites are runing society. They have done so under capitalism, communism, feudalism, you name it. That's just the truth. Same people and same families usually too. They want you to believe it's a problem with the system so you don't see the real problem
Anonymous No.718999354
>>718985770
If woman says "I'm not happy" she's legally allowed to ruin your life forever.
Don't like it? You're an incel.
Anonymous No.718999360 >>718999558
>>718999129
>>718997564
I did say hyper capitalism, learn to read. You're still attempting to argue with your assumed straw man instead of accepting he doesn't exist.
Anonymous No.718999405 >>718999612 >>718999737
>>718985674
>and acccording to Tim Cain it was China that nuked USA first because of America's FEV program.
no? they specifically don't mention who nuked who first because it doesn't matter anymore
Anonymous No.718999448
>>718984957 (OP)
chud.
Anonymous No.718999513 >>718999569
>>718999337
>The people is charge are the people in charge
Wow no shit Sherlock. I'm sure your 150iq solution here is that nobody should ever be in charge of anything, then nobody will ever make mistakes. Look, if you don't know what you're talking about don't pretend to have some profound perspective on things, it makes you look like a pretentious moron.
Anonymous No.718999558
>>718999360
Okay, I missed that "hyper capitalism" part before what I quoted so I'm wrong there, but my general point still stands anyway, so I'm right anyway.
Anonymous No.718999569 >>718999762
>>718999513
I'm not telling you what the solution is I'm telling you what the problem is, and that you're stupid for thinking the problem is capitalism
Anonymous No.718999612
>>718999405
>no?
Yes. He mentioned it in a youtube video somewhere. I do agree that it doesn't really matter. But when asked he basically reasponed "oh wait, I thought everyone already knew. Did we forget to actually put that info in the game?".
Anonymous No.718999650 >>718999679
>>718999301
>the lead writer known for quality wouldn't have made the story good if he hadn't been fired and they hadn't had to write the story under extreme crunch in the game knocked for its god awful story because of said reasons
so this is where you usually say
>I was just pretending to be retarded
Anonymous No.718999679 >>718999775
>>718999650
>>the lead writer
I thought you said he wasn't the lead writer?
Anonymous No.718999685 >>719000007
>The corporate elites start building gated bunker communities, company town fortresses, for some reason
>Leaks of the corporate and political elite having their meetings about how the fuck are they going to stay on top through and after "it happens", whatever the "it" may be
>All the powerful people are building escape plans(leave the country, leave the earth, switch to despotism, kickstart the WW3 so that the poor internationally are too busy killing each other to pay attention to anything else) instead of how to fix it plans, because fixing it would require losing some of the money, sharing wealth
>All ready to burn it all down, so long as they'll stay on top of the ashes that remain.

Greedy people destroying the earth is just too unrealistic and unbelievable for videogames tv tho
Anonymous No.718999737 >>719000336
>>718999405
It does make sense that China would use nukes first though. America was winning. They not only kicked China out of Alaska, but they moved on to invade China themselves. China is getting fucked up -> they nuke because they have no other choice makes sense. America nuking for no reason does not make sense.
The story would probably be better if there wasn't already a war on and we didn't know who first launched the nukes and why, but that's not the case.
Anonymous No.718999762 >>718999805
>>718999569
>The problem is that people in charge are responsible when mistakes are made
Wow, profound insight there. As if it needs to be said that the people who control your country are the people who control your country.

Now we can move past this retarded captain obvious shit larping as insight and discuss what ideas control these people.
Anonymous No.718999775 >>718999831
>>718999679
of Pillars, that you tried to change the subject to you fucking retarded illiterate ESL fuckwit. This shit isn't rocket science.
Anonymous No.718999805 >>719000057
>>718999762
>when mistakes are made
They aren't mistakes. They're doing it intentionally
There's nothing profound about this. You're just blaming the system instead of the people, when they've done it under every system
Anonymous No.718999807
>>718989021
Literally 94% of American adults are overweight or obese. Do you know how hard it is to find skinny people to be extras?
Anonymous No.718999831 >>719000040
>>718999775
We were talking about Dying Light 2
Anonymous No.718999883
>>718985770
You forgot the part where she gets his job and makes the whole game cancelled
Anonymous No.719000002
>>718988723
They invested in bottlecaps before hand
Anonymous No.719000007
>>718999685
>**glug glug glug**
Anonymous No.719000040 >>719000061
>>718999831
reread the thread, Sandeep
Anonymous No.719000057 >>719000146
>>718999805
That's the fucking point, religion, laws and democratic governments were invented to control people's worst instincts and when you have the right mix of incentives your elites aren't fucking you 24/7, even if they want to their power is checked. Under a hyper capitalist or corrupt communist dictatorship your elites have 100% of the power and they fuck you while telling you it's normal and there's nothing you can do about it.

You aren't saying anything, your comments lead to nothing, it is just an obvious statement of fact that yes, elites rule your society.
Anonymous No.719000061
>>719000040
Someone said that he said that his contribution to Dyling Light 2 wasn't that big
Anonymous No.719000146 >>719000407
>>719000057
What the elites are doing in America isn't just hyper captialism it's straight up oligarchy
Anonymous No.719000241 >>719000420
>>718999302
>T51b looks dumb
now heres a new kind of dogshit take
>t51b looks like a battletank, painted in military colors wich makes sense considering PA was made to replace tanks in the army, plus its design clearly takes light inspiration from teh 1950's scifi asthetic without going full retard
>T45 and T60 look like literal salvaged scrap, this could be excused if they where post war armors the BoS made because they where running out of T51's but Bethshit somehow made them both pre war armors
Anonymous No.719000251 >>719000619 >>719001080
>>718993254
Chris is chill by modern standards. You know the world is fucked when even complete leftists like him side with straight white men
Anonymous No.719000336
>>718999737
>America nuking for no reason does not make sense.
America launching a nuclear first strike because they know that a continued invasion of china will lead to china employing nuclear weapons and believing in their hubris that they can completely disable chinese nuclear launch capabilities and win a nuclear war is perfectly realistic.
Anonymous No.719000378
>>718984957 (OP)
>500 replies to a fake tweet
this board is easier to bait than twitter
Anonymous No.719000407 >>719000439
>>719000146
It's an oligarchy that grew out of an unregulated hyper capitalist system. your governments are supposed to check their power but they all busy sucking their disks for cash.
Anonymous No.719000420 >>719000494
>>719000241
>onions of new west
Anonymous No.719000439 >>719000784
>>719000407
>your governments are supposed to check their power
And why didn't they? It's not because of capitalism
Anonymous No.719000494 >>719000565 >>719000636
>>719000420
>newfagging so hard you literally got 'filtered'
Anonymous No.719000565 >>719000823
>>719000494
>He is still playing NV
i prefer the Fo4 T51b even if the forearms aren't the same
Anonymous No.719000619 >>719001080 >>719001359
>>719000251
I guess he's what they call a "classical liberal," where they aren't too far gone.
Anonymous No.719000636 >>719000823
>>719000494
i wrote what i wanted to write you dumb shitlord
Anonymous No.719000679
>>719000000
Anonymous No.719000775
>>718990860
Space buns :)
Anonymous No.719000784 >>719001205 >>719005042
>>719000439
Yes, it is. Your politicians have bought the lie that the economy and gdp growth are everything, that you can destroy and undermine every single thing about your society so long as the gdp goes up, then with that money they will fix everything. Your politicians aren't economists, they are terrified of markets so they gave away all power and decision making processes to banks, corps, trillionare CEOs, and economic free trade thinktanks which are the organs of hyper capitalism.

You will notice that when an oligarch appears in China and gets uppity they are disappeared for months and when they return they stop talking and suddenly start donating their wealth to the state. (This is not a defence of China before you sperg out about communism, I'm merely pointing out that different types of economic systems do in fact control oligarchs)
Anonymous No.719000807 >>719003169
>>718986528
I'm surprised she managed to rope Walton Goggins into a project of her's again after that dreadful Tomb Raider movie
Anonymous No.719000823 >>719000992
>>719000565
>>719000636
i dont concern myself with the opinions of newfags
Anonymous No.719000830
>>718998513
millionaires are true revolutionaries because they have it all, thus nothing...
Anonymous No.719000876
>>718987582
You actually have 12 IQ,slurp less nigger cum tranny faggot
Anonymous No.719000937 >>719001070
>>718987176
>taking over in the aftermath
This is how fucking stupid the average left wing person is, they unironically believe le evil mega corp would nuke the world to rule it, but it never goes beyond that, if a mega corp wanted to rule the world, paying lobbyists or electing mayors/congressmen/presidents would be the most risk averse way to accomplish that, but inside the head of a retarded lefty writer, they're EVIL so they would rather destroy everything and rule over nothing, which doesn't make sense, because there would be nothing to rule. Compare this to how it was before the retcon, China nuked America because they just got their asses whooped in a war and were running out of fossil fuels, it was implied their entire society was becoming non-functional. I hate leftists so much is unreal.

>>718987226
>redditors freaked out, crying "death of the author." Now they pretend he never said that and still push the idea
That's their MO, only ideology matters, because for them, the ends (revolution) justify the means (lying, cheating, manipulating, etc). Everything they do is about pushing the agenda.
Anonymous No.719000992 >>719001730
>>719000823
I didn't concern myself with the opinions of a zoomer larping as a oldfag, who is also a tranny, buy then /v/ doesnt enforce the rules these days unless a janny wants to show service.
Anonymous No.719001024
>>718990241
imagine writing this shit and not realizing how dumb it is, rethink your life you fucking retard
Anonymous No.719001043
>>718985498
3/4/76 as far as I'm aware didn't do that, just redditors who want popular media to agree with their every thought.
Anonymous No.719001070 >>719001350
>>719000937
>they would rather destroy everything and rule over nothing, which doesn't make sense, because there would be nothing to rule.
you'd do this too if you had nukes and were prepared for an incoming apocalypse
Anonymous No.719001080 >>719001202
>>719000251
>>719000619
He still supports trannyism and got brow-beaten by leftoids for agreeing with a wrong think post about Dragon Age going to shit.
Anonymous No.719001202
>>719001080
Welp, that's deserved. If you shit on Veilguard, a 8/10 game, you probably have an agenda behind it.
Anonymous No.719001205 >>719003176
>>719000784
The people in power didn't buy into the lies, they created them
Anonymous No.719001258 >>719001391
>>718999337
Saying "elites" is pretty dishonest. The modern day billionaires are very different from the papal class, the nobles or other feodal "elites". It's hand waving the actual issues of modern stock market capitalism in favor of pointing to a nebulous evil that we can't really do anything about.
Anonymous No.719001350 >>719001413
>>719001070
No I wouldn't, nobody would, not even because they're not evil, but because when you want to rule something, you want power, and what power are you going to have when everything is destroyed, it's easier to infiltrate the current instituitions of power and corrupt them than to destroy everything and take decades to centuries to rebuild. This is inherently a stupid plot point.
Anonymous No.719001359
>>719000619
>where they aren't too far gone
More like he's just old. Over the last 20-30 years liberal beliefs have gone from unrealistic and naive to complete fucking madness
Anonymous No.719001391
>>719001258
So you'd rather have the illusion that the problem is ultimately systemic rather than the truth because it feels better and like you can do something about it?
Elites come in many forms
Anonymous No.719001413 >>719002096 >>719002547
>>719001350
you assert your power by murdering billions, it's the end times who gives a shit
Anonymous No.719001609
>>718987113
>full vindctive retard at the start
No, that was well into his blacklisting and it was a response to Obsidian trying to gyp him out of the ownership shares they owed him by holding his dying family member over his head.
He basically just outed the owners as being criminal scumbags who embezzled paychecks through no-show jobs, funding contractually paid for from one project into another as well as protecting genuine nepohires who sexually harassed employees.
Anonymous No.719001730
>>719000992
>zoomer pretending to be oldfag but posting zoomer images
funny
Anonymous No.719001826
>>718989540
>borderline illegal shit
Nothing borderline about it, he was openly in breach of the civil rights act employment statutes.
Anonymous No.719002078 >>719003329
>>718993182
>>718993413
>>718993749
>average mudslime slideposts thinking no one notices
Anonymous No.719002096
>>719001413
are you baiting?
Anonymous No.719002314
>>718989487
pertinent comparison I feel.
S1 was very much like TFA in its humor, characters, emulation of franchise tropes, blowing up an entire New Republic in a nonsensical way, and ultimately reception.
TFA was also well liked in its first years. It wasn't until the later sequels that opinions soured.
Anonymous No.719002407
>>718984957 (OP)
>When the commie finally has enough of the other commies and their bullshit
Anonymous No.719002460
>>718989540
This shit is why I don't spend money on any game made west of Poland, this industry became just as bad as the cartoon industry, it's about who you know than what you did or the quality of your work.

No wonder gacha shit and anime took over, meanwhile the western vidya and cartoon industries are losing money each year.

Making Concord should be career ending for everyone involved, partcularly the character designer, but fucking Blizzard just hired them lmao what the fuck
Anonymous No.719002475
>>718998669
He literally didn't say a word about his co-workers only the owner of Obsidian, who don't work on the games, and were the ones who tried to screw him out of money through healthcare payout extortion.

The closest he ever got to shit-talking anyone was Fenstermaker and that was in direct response to that guy responding to his talk about Feargus & co and while pretending to be le voice of reason insinuating Avellone either made it up or that he shouldn't talk about those things even if they're true.
Avellone's response was mostly saying that he wouldn't know since he's not in a position to actually have contact with the owners and that he shouldn't be talking about professionalism considering he, in a fit of pique, drove Gonzalez out of Obsidian by refusing to co-operate with him on any writing work.
Anonymous No.719002547
>>719001413
>who gives a shit
If the plot of your show retcons well stablished lore and replaces it with "who gives a shit" you have a really poorly written show.
Anonymous No.719003169
>>719000807
Our boy needs the money.
Anonymous No.719003176 >>719003304
>>719001205
No, the retarded liberals running half the Anglosphere and europe bought into them. If you're that desperate to believe in hyper competent aliens ordering the universe then start going to church.
Anonymous No.719003304 >>719003825
>>719003176
>hyper competent aliens ordering the universe
No, they're just humans
Most of the dangerous lies that are ruining the world that people believe in are made up intentionally by evil people
Anonymous No.719003329
>>719002078
yes all me
and you won't do shit whitoid
your kind is dying
and we're the new borne
we're the sandborne
Anonymous No.719003425
>>718985674
Todd and the writters never played the games
Anonymous No.719003469
>>718984957 (OP)
one rape accusation and nigga is ready to join the chud side
Anonymous No.719003514
>>718985859
I think rapists deserve the death penalty. I think falsely accusing somebody of rape also deserves the death penalty.
You deserve the death penalty.
Anonymous No.719003603
>>718985770
>it makes no sense.
he is a straight white male, are you still pretending is about something else?
Anonymous No.719003623
>>718995245
>random bullshit
again, this means nothing
you might as well just say it's "bad"
Anonymous No.719003661
>>718985674
making Vault-Tec have more agency than the US government is dumb. Previously, the government wanted to set up experimental vaults, and Vault-Tec was more or less a front for that.
Now it's just a big evil megacorp that actually had more power than the government and always had more power than the Enclave afterwards.
Anonymous No.719003753
>>718989928
*crickets*
Anonymous No.719003825 >>719003989
>>719003304
humans are stupid monkeys, I know its comforting to believe there are 200iq geniuses who order and control every society on earth but they dont exist. nations are led by npcs ping ponging from one meme idea to another and the memes themselves are chaotic entities born from stupid autistic people who spend too much time in books and none in the real world, they also come from retarded sewers like this forum.
Anonymous No.719003989 >>719004326 >>719004475
>>719003825
They're not super geniuses, they're just evil humans with power
Like Karl Marx and Lenin invented communism and used that to seize power
And people invent ideas that corrupt capitalism and use that to seize power
It's intentional
Anonymous No.719004163
>>718985770
people never go back to re-visit their own mistakes. Life is apparently easier that way if you never have to think about you ever being wrong.
Anonymous No.719004326 >>719004423
>>719003989
Its not evil you moron, these are unintended side effects of people responding to immediate problems in their life and society. Just like how mass immigration is an unintended side effect of christian morality which is by definition not evil.

you whine about communism but talk like a communist who thinks every interaction is about seizing power.
Anonymous No.719004423 >>719004803
>>719004326
>these are unintended side effects
nope, most of the big problems today are intentionally caused by the elites to take your money and siphion it to them
some are unintentional, most of them are intentional though
they don't want you to believe that of course because if you think it's just chaos then nobody will try to do anything about them
Anonymous No.719004475 >>719004569
>>719003989
>people invent ideas that corrupt capitalism
holy shit
do tricks around it, golem
Anonymous No.719004569 >>719004676
>>719004475
Are you telling me capitalism hasn't been corrupted?
Anonymous No.719004584
>>718984957 (OP)
Based Avellone.
Anonymous No.719004601
Anonymous No.719004676 >>719004703
>>719004569
yes
Anonymous No.719004703 >>719004885
>>719004676
I wonder why nobody can afford a house then
Anonymous No.719004803 >>719004891
>>719004423
if its chaos it means any human with enough insight can exert control. It is your belief system which is some slave tier cope that secret elites you have never seen are ruining your life and you cant fight back because they are all powerful and you have no idea who it is.

It is incredibly easy to trace back all bad ideas in modern society to their relatively innocent beginnings, the only people who cant do this are ignorant retards who treat elites like god to paper over gaps in their understanding.
Anonymous No.719004885
>>719004703
because that's the point of capitalism
Anonymous No.719004891 >>719005186
>>719004803
>if its chaos it means any human with enough insight can exert control
well, it's true. Look at people like Hitler, he didn't come from the elite, he was just an ordinary dude
I'm sure you've seen a lot of the elites that are ruining your life
The bad ideas have to look innocent for people to believe them in the first place
Anonymous No.719005042
>>719000784
>Your politicians aren't economists
Economy as a field is a larp. The only real purpose of economics is to make economics seem real and important. It's a giant ponzi scheme our whole society is built on. In reality it has zero predictive power and is generally unequipped to even analyse the past. It's truly hilarious to me that people put so much faith in economists.
Anonymous No.719005158 >>719005208
>>718989852
care to explain how those supposedly greedy people would want a future where their worker and consumer class is all fucking gone and so are all the luxuries and supply lines that afford them their ultra high quality of life?
Anonymous No.719005186 >>719005267
>>719004891
>well, it's true, he didn't come from the elite, he was just an ordinary dude
>if you think it's just chaos then nobody will try to do anything
im glad you admit you disagree with yourself and have realised I'm right.

I see the elites ruining society and I see stupid monkeys generated from a system with a million perverse incentives.
Anonymous No.719005208 >>719005731
>>719005158
>supposedly greedy
Anonymous No.719005267 >>719005514 >>719005584
>>719005186
I don't understand
I'm saying the ideas ruining society are mostly intentional, like communism was intentionally invented, so was fascism, so are the things wrong with capitalism. Greedy people deliberately corrupt things to become more powerful. You think they're just happy little accidents
Anonymous No.719005514 >>719005620
>>719005267
No, you think evil people have evil little plans and try to corrupt society because they are so evil. I'm telling you that its people responding with bad solutions to a chaotic system they dont fully understand. Some marxist criticisms of capitalism are valid and only hold more weight as that system begins to crush western society, it was just their solution was fucking retarded.
Anonymous No.719005584 >>719005667
>>719005267
Obviously communism was intentionally created. It was created intentionally in response to the abhorrent conditions of the working class in early industrial times.
Anonymous No.719005620 >>719005780
>>719005514
>you think evil people have evil little plans and try to corrupt society because they are so evil
yeah, that's what I said
Lies have to contain truths for smart people to believe them, but thinking that they're accidentally bad and not built that way for the start is naive
Not believing in evil is how evil can exist, and not believing in evil is pretty fucking dumb when you look at history
Anonymous No.719005667 >>719005812
>>719005584
Yes, it said look at how bad being an industrial worker is, subscribe to our ideology which will enslave you even more (totally an accident guys we had the best intentions)
Anonymous No.719005731
>>719005208
yes, supposedly
because a greedy fuck doesn't look at the world through numbers, they look at what they have and do
only someone completely insane would think nuking everything that makes being rich worth it would make them richer
Anonymous No.719005780 >>719005863
>>719005620
evil is banal and often results from good intentions, stupidity, selfishness or ignorance. Believing its some all powerful machiavellian force is what a child thinks.
Anonymous No.719005812
>>719005667
The conditions of workers has improved after communism even in countries that never tried to adopt communism.
Anonymous No.719005837
>>718987176
My empire of dirt but irl
Lmao
What wealth do they even have? More irradiated shit than the other guy?
Retard anti-capitalists don’t even understand how economies or power dynamics function. Maybe they should actually read Marx.
Anonymous No.719005863
>>719005780
That's not evil
Being evil is doing it intentionally
Thinking that people aren't being evil is being really ignorant of history
Are you gonna look at America where there's a small minority of incredibly rich people and everyone else is poor and think "oh that's just an accident, I'm sure it wasn't engineered by those rich people"