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Anonymous No.719043569 >>719043717 >>719044124 >>719044196 >>719044253 >>719044448 >>719044727 >>719044918 >>719044975 >>719049432 >>719049615 >>719051185 >>719051293 >>719051825 >>719052695 >>719058360 >>719062160 >>719064539 >>719066973 >>719067143 >>719068350 >>719068767 >>719069187 >>719070506 >>719070937 >>719071840 >>719072470 >>719072648 >>719072670 >>719072715 >>719075180 >>719076260 >>719076694 >>719077356 >>719078945 >>719079491 >>719083992 >>719084824 >>719086207
Just finished Portal 2 (2011). What do you guys think about it? The humor aged pretty badly, but the game itself is fantastic.
Anonymous No.719043668 >>719043805 >>719044789 >>719071751 >>719072415
think valve playtesters are the dumbest mother fuckers on the planet and as a result the only portalable surfaces are the ones that are the answer to the puzzle
Anonymous No.719043675 >>719043745
>humor aged badly
how?
Anonymous No.719043717
>>719043569 (OP)
i think A fags are retarded copers
Anonymous No.719043745 >>719050000 >>719056380 >>719058741 >>719062526 >>719067346 >>719078805
>>719043675
You can tell that every single redditor got their sense of humor from this game, which in turn made the humor retroactively cringe.
Anonymous No.719043805 >>719055343
>>719043668
There are some extra unused walls in most levels. The problem is that if you add too many, it creates possibilities for cheating the levels.
Anonymous No.719043827
My impressions at the time in regards to the humor was that Wheatley was very funny, GladOS was ok at times and Cave Johnson was redditshit.

Good game. Not as good as the first one but still pretty good. The last good game Valve made, in fact. If you can find a friend to play the co-op with, it's absolutely worth it, OP.
Anonymous No.719044124
>>719043569 (OP)
last actual valve game before they fell for the esports meme
Anonymous No.719044196
>>719043569 (OP)
it's a good game.
Anonymous No.719044253 >>719046478
>>719043569 (OP)
pootis 2
Anonymous No.719044448 >>719063256 >>719065210
>>719043569 (OP)
Isn't Portal basically just Reddit: The Official Video Game?
Anonymous No.719044727 >>719044803 >>719044947
>>719043569 (OP)
>The humor aged pretty badly
it didn't
it just aged, you can tell it's from that era but it's not offensively bad unless you're looking for retarded reasons to be upset
Anonymous No.719044789
>>719043668
filtered
Anonymous No.719044803
>>719044727
>looking for retarded reasons to be upset
Basically the tagline for /v/
Anonymous No.719044918 >>719070143
>>719043569 (OP)
I played both Portal games last week for the first time since the launch of Portal 2 and I had really forgotten how short and easy they are. The humor is alright, pretty hit or miss anymore in my opinion.

Anyone have suggestions for community test chambers or whatever?
Anonymous No.719044947 >>719047889
>>719044727
>upset
Who said anything about being upset? Are you mentally retarded?
Anonymous No.719044975
>>719043569 (OP)
GLaDOS can't be any more annoying
Anonymous No.719046478
>>719044253
hehehehehe
Anonymous No.719047889 >>719048018
>>719044947
calm down, no need to seethe
Anonymous No.719048018 >>719049809
>>719047889
Your butt is so hurt that you came back 1 hour later just to reply to me. It's ok that I'm living rent free in your head.
Anonymous No.719049432
>>719043569 (OP)
most reddit game i ever played but then again i do not play indies which are reddit personified
paint mechanics were amazing thobeitevermoreso
Anonymous No.719049615
>>719043569 (OP)
Much more polished, longer and ellaborate.
It was also a soft reboot in relation to the previous game. Portal 1 was a thriller with comedic bits, Portal 2 was a dark comedy. Several elements got retconned or forgotten, like Aperture's design and various aspects of GladOS.

I love the game but I see why many didn't.
Anonymous No.719049809 >>719050170
>>719048018
you can calm down though, you don't have to be mad
Anonymous No.719050000
>>719043745
it was cringe when it came out
Anonymous No.719050170 >>719050414
>>719049809
Oh my GOD you are seething, keep replying to me buster. Your immense anal agitation is a joy to see.
Anonymous No.719050414 >>719050551
>>719050170
yeah... you don't sound mad at all
Anonymous No.719050551
>>719050414
Shut the fuck up redditor. I'm not fucking mad, you are.
Anonymous No.719051172 >>719056501
>reddit
>redditor
>reddit
>redditor
is this a bot training thread? serious question
Anonymous No.719051185
>>719043569 (OP)
I replayed it recently and I still prefer the first game. For a game about portals, Portal 2 stretched that concept way too thin by the end. I dunno why people want Portal 3 when Valve could've expanded any other gameplay ideas instead.
Anonymous No.719051293 >>719051446 >>719055683 >>719056871 >>719077497
>>719043569 (OP)
>no good puzzle games have been released since Portal 2
Why is this genre completely dead?
Anonymous No.719051446 >>719070448
>>719051293
What about Talos Principle?
Anonymous No.719051825
>>719043569 (OP)
It was steams highest rated game for many, many years so do with that information as you please
Anonymous No.719052695
>>719043569 (OP)
>The humor aged pretty badly
Eh, I still think it's good. I can forgive it's style of comedy for being one of the first and being way more tasteful with it than everything that came after and tried to do a similar thing.
Anonymous No.719052896
I always disliked it but I've always disliked the extremely twee comedy style of stuff like Hitcherhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Monty Python. Portal 1 wasn't a masterpiece in terms of comedy, but it had some moments. I didn't so much as smirk once while playing 2.
Anonymous No.719055343 >>719056116
>>719043805
worked fine for the first game
Anonymous No.719055683
>>719051293
Baba Is You
Anonymous No.719056116
>>719055343
this
having made some community test chambers in portal 2, you can get pretty far by preventing the player from portaling directly to the end or whatever just by blocking the line of sight with a wall or emancipation grid, and preventing cheesing over gaps with flinging by just making the ceiling too short to gain momentum and/or making only the wall or ceiling non-portalable
making everything non-portalable except the places you're meant to place a portal is just lazy yellow paint tactics
Anonymous No.719056380 >>719056674
>>719043745
Imagine letting your enjoyment of something pivot entirely on what other people do. Pathetic.
Anonymous No.719056501
>>719051172
No, this is just /v/. /v/ is always going to find something entirely pointless to be pissed about. Portal 2 is an objectively good game that is simultaneously a product of its time as is its writing. The writing is also good and there is a reason it spawned as many memes as it did. /v/ is just incapable of enjoying games that other people do.
Anonymous No.719056674 >>719057092
>>719056380
What do you mean by this? Do you think I was laughing at the jokes, but then I would suddenly remember that redditors also like those jokes and start punching myself for laughing? Genuinely what's going on in your empty brain? Obviously if you see a type of humor repeated by unfunny people and overdone, it's going to stop being funny. It's not spite or contrarianism, it's literally how humor works.
Anonymous No.719056871
>>719051293
portal was ironically a have your cake and eat it to game. gamers demand thrilling conflict driven storylines but are tired of endless combat gameplay, gamers demand non combat gameplay but find pure gameplay abstraction and simulation too dry, usually these conflicting demands lead to a bad end, a walking sim or a hide n seek jumpscare simulator, a playable movie but in portal's case you get the trifecta. same thriller storyline, no gratuitous killing and genuine non combat gameplay.
Anonymous No.719057092 >>719057192
>>719056674
Apparently so, seeing as you stopped enjoying the game after seeing that Reddit started liking it, hence "retroactively cringe". It's either cringe or it's not. You're the one that brought up Reddit. If you're so insecure that you can't bear to measure things by their own merits irrespective of what anyone from some website things then you live a very sad and depressing life.
Anonymous No.719057192 >>719058235 >>719074158
>>719057092
Yes, apparently you ARE retarded.
Anonymous No.719058235 >>719058784
>>719057192
Says the guy who can't enjoy things simply because other people do. Spare everyone the suspense and kill yourself already. No one wants a miserable pathetic little bitch like you around.
Anonymous No.719058360 >>719071647
>>719043569 (OP)
Takes a sledgehammer to the grim, oppressive, darkly comic atmosphere of the first one and replaces it with a nonstop quirk chungus Reddit quipfest. Puzzles are fun enough but the writing is downright painful
Anonymous No.719058741 >>719058891
>>719043745
Opinions from chuds are worthless.
Anonymous No.719058784 >>719058973
>>719058235
How would you have felt if you didn't have breakfast?
Anonymous No.719058891
>>719058741
Ummm... Well that just happened.
Anonymous No.719058973 >>719059105
>>719058784
How would you exist without someone else to complain about?
Anonymous No.719059105 >>719059147
>>719058973
Keep arguing with a strawman you concocted in your 60 IQ brain.
Anonymous No.719059147 >>719059215
>>719059105
>Keep arguing with a strawman
How would you have felt if you didn't have breakfast?
Anonymous No.719059215
>>719059147
How would you have felt if you didn't eat lead as a child?
Anonymous No.719062160
>>719043569 (OP)
Itโ€™s not that bad. Just early 2010s millennial humor. It has already aged better than Skibidi zoomer autism humor thatโ€™s currently in.
Anonymous No.719062526
>>719043745
You are a stupid nigger.
Anonymous No.719062981
replayed it recently, the old labs sequence is fucking fantastic as always
Anonymous No.719063256
>>719044448
Plebbitors think that things that originate from 4chan is part of their culture. They think they invented rage comics
Anonymous No.719063363 >>719063776
Portal 2 is fun and it has funny moments but 90% of Wheatley's dialogue sucked back then and it sucks now.
The humor in Half Life Alyx is really bad, its like the worst parts of Portal 2 but the entire game. Everyone acts like Wheatley lite.
Anonymous No.719063776 >>719070886
>>719063363
I'm surprised more people didn't take Alyx's writing as a death knell for a good Half Life 3
Anonymous No.719064539
>>719043569 (OP)
Great game but all the story dialog is simply boring, the only interesting part was glados vs wheatley and that should've been the main concept from the game. AIs fighting each other while you play both sides
Anonymous No.719065210 >>719066792 >>719067265 >>719069573 >>719070868 >>719070946 >>719071523 >>719076768
>>719044448
Portal 2 is. The tone of the original was horror. Chell has been kidnapped and imprisoned, it's possibly thousands of years in the future because she's been in stasis so she has no life outside of the facility. Everyone she knew is dead. She's being forced to be a lab rat for a homicidal maniacal machine. Her life is in danger, they've surgically altered her legs without her consent, she's a human crash test dummy. Many have tried to do these tests before her and have ended up blood stains on the floor. It's serious business. The only "joke" that came out of the original was "the cake is a lie" which is more of a cathartic laugh, once the ordeal is over. The cake being a lie is alluded to by graffiti left by the test subject who came before Chell, who went insane. It is revealed in the end credits that the cake the villain has been promising the entire game was in fact, not a lie. That's what made "the cake is a lie" so famous, it's the one joke in an otherwise grueling experience. Secondaries latched onto the meme, having never played portal 1. Thus portal 2 was created with Millenial writing all the way through, not only butchering the tone of the original but cheapening the entire Half-Life series because it's implied they take place in the same universe. Portal 1 wasn't a "dark humor" game, it was a horror game. At least Portal 2 had fun gameplay though, and co-op.
Anonymous No.719066792 >>719070021
>>719065210
My nig, the whole boss fight with Glados is pure comedic. "Has that thing just fell off of me? I don't know what it does". One of the falling modules recites a cake recipe, while the last one (probably an aggression module) just straight up growls and snarls all the type. Horror, my ass.
Anonymous No.719066973
>>719043569 (OP)
>The humor aged pretty badly
It wasn't great to begin with.
Anonymous No.719067143 >>719070229
>>719043569 (OP)
>got steve merchant to voice a character who is literally just a big eye ball
They've done him again
Anonymous No.719067265 >>719070021
>>719065210
There were plenty of jokes and dry wit in portal 1, are you ESL or something?
Anonymous No.719067346 >>719067623 >>719070090 >>719079508
>>719043745
Portal 2's humor is just an iteration of humor popularized by Buffy, child. Portal 2 certainly didn't come up with it or even popularize it.
Anonymous No.719067623
>>719067346
I really hope somebody uses my post as a platform to provide useless trivia that they're very proud of possessing while also missing obvious hyperbole.
Anonymous No.719068350 >>719068887 >>719071092
>>719043569 (OP)
I think the humor is fine. Itโ€™s weird but itโ€™s fine. Kinda like Half Life Alyxโ€™s humor. It appeals the mod at to autistic white kids. (Valveโ€™s player base)
Regardless, both gameโ€™s humor is entirely outclassed by Left 4 Dead 2.
Anonymous No.719068767 >>719070384
>>719043569 (OP)
The puzzles were dumbed down so hard you've got normalfags breezing through it. Also the setting is too wacky now. Portal 1 Aperture were clearly competent, they just didn't think morality had a place in science. Portal 2 Aperture is "WOOWEE LETS MAKE COMBUSTIBLE LEMONS LOL MAKE THE POOR DO ADVANCED PORTAL TESTING I BOUGHT A CHUNK OF THE MOON TO TURN INTO GOO!"
Anonymous No.719068887
>>719068350
*appeals the most to
Anonymous No.719069187
>>719043569 (OP)
the humor did not age badly, it was so-so from the beginning
the first time you play it, the game might get a chuckle out of you a few times, but on your second play through you realize it's lame. the game is great though, but the gel mechanic is annoying
also Chell is old
captcha: HAG
Anonymous No.719069573 >>719070021 >>719070021
>>719065210
M8 the reason "the cake is a lie" is funny is because GladOS, being an inhuman machine, tries to motivate test subjects to undergo mortal peril in return for a reward, and reasons that humans like cake so cake should be sufficient. That is a joke in itself. It derives its humour from the fact that the player realises that cake is not a reason to risk your life and also that they don't have a choice regardless so the reward is moot.
Then when you find the graffiti it reveals that the previous test subject was incredibly invested in receiving their cake. The player, as the straight man, realises the cake is pointless, which makes it all the more humorous that someone went insane over it.
It should be noted that "the cake is a lie" was already featured in the Portal ARG before release and that was one big joke.

>cheapening the entire Half-Life series because it's implied they take place in the same universe
This I agree with but I felt the same way about the first game already.
Anonymous No.719070021 >>719070220 >>719077407
>>719066792
>>719067265
>>719069573
Agree to disagree, that characterization of Glados being "lol so random" wasn't really cemented until the second game after her comedic song in the credits, so I'm assuming you're all secondaries. In the first game it was more just characterizing her as an unthinking, unfeeling machine trying to empathize with you. It made her more creepy and made Chell's situation more horrific, not funny.
>>719069573
At least you partly got it.
>GladOS, being an inhuman machine, tries to motivate test subjects to undergo mortal peril in return for a reward, and reasons that humans like cake so cake should be sufficient.
You're either secondaries or your memories are being skewed by your perception of Portal 2. Go replay the first game, it's cold, daunting, and Glados is creepy weird not cute/likeable (until the end song which was a joke).
Anonymous No.719070090
>>719067346
i like portal humor
will i like buffy?
Anonymous No.719070143
>>719044918
quicksinger21 maps are slept on. They are very difficult, but very satisfying to solve.
Anonymous No.719070220 >>719070656 >>719070656 >>719071652
>>719070021
>until the second game after her comedic song in the credits
So you think Still Alive was a complete left turn rather than entirely in line with the established tone of the game?
>so I'm assuming you're all secondaries
Literally just told you I started with the ARG and I never even played Portal 2 so I'm literally basing myself on the first game alone
>In the first game it was more just characterizing her as an unthinking, unfeeling machine trying to empathize with you.
And derives humour from that premise
Anonymous No.719070229
>>719067143
underrated rickyposting
Anonymous No.719070384 >>719070581 >>719070612
>>719068767
>WOOWEE LETS MAKE COMBUSTIBLE LEMONS LOL MAKE THE POOR DO ADVANCED PORTAL TESTING I BOUGHT A CHUNK OF THE MOON TO TURN INTO GOO!
This is why I browse these threads. The complete inability to take Portal 2's plot or characters and interpret their intentions because you're such a dumb humorless fuck you can only hear the words being said and not the meaning of the words.

Holy fuck I love this website. Love Portal 2. Like other anons have said, the first is the better game. 2 is fun though and has some funny moments. That scene where GLaDOS keeps calling you fat and having to change the calibration on the launch pad always makes me smile. It's so fucking petty.
Anonymous No.719070448
>>719051446
>Elohim freaking out as you climb the tower
Anonymous No.719070506 >>719072417
>>719043569 (OP)
Playing the two player version with my brother was a great experience to remember the good ol times.

A lot of fun little quirks in there.

The solo experience was a bit of a letdown. I didn't think Wheatley was funny. Only time steven merchant is funny is when he's wrangling ricky. Also discovering all the secret fuckery they do to make levels work was dissapoiting. I thought it was a physics game in puzzle shape. But there's subtly hidden walls and extra boost that made creative puzzle solving almost impossible (unless you abused the hidden extra boost and such). Just dissapointing.
Anonymous No.719070581
>>719070384
I forgot about the fat joke, heh
Anonymous No.719070612 >>719070720 >>719070724
>>719070384
>I'm soooo much smarter than you because I find Portal 2 funny!
This is the Rick and Morty copypasta all over again.
Anonymous No.719070656 >>719070939 >>719071075 >>719071652
>>719070220
>So you think Still Alive was a complete left turn rather than entirely in line with the established tone of the game?
Exactly. That's what made it so funny, and that's what made the cake is a lie so popular. It comes out of nowhere.
>>719070220
>And derives humour from that premise
Except in the first game it comes across as taunting, demoralizing or dehumanizing rather than witty or humorous. It adds to the atmosphere, which is one of portal's strengths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSjWOerYUxc
It's cold, lifeless, clinical, lonely, abandoned. It's a stark contrast to the more whimsical tone of Portal 2, which is even reflected in Portal 2's soundtrack with it's peppy soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAg4yjEmerU&list=PLC32EFD96F3E72D4E
Even just comparing the two soundtracks shows a complete shift in tone.
Anonymous No.719070720
>>719070612
Not really
The humour's simple and you still miss it
Anonymous No.719070724
>>719070612
>I'm soooo much smarter than you because I find Portal 2 funny!
>This is the Rick and Morty copypasta all over again.
Did I strike a nerve there? You can suggest that's what I'm implying if that's what makes you feel superior to me, but no that's not what I'm saying at all.

I'm not calling you stupid, just boring. I imagine you have the cognitive capacity to understand the subtext of Portal 2's plot. I just don't think you have the imagination.
Anonymous No.719070784
I AM NOT A MORON
Anonymous No.719070868 >>719070946 >>719070946
>>719065210
Portal manages to maintain balance of being in the uncanny valley better portal 2. It isn't horror, because it isn't that serious of a game. It has a lighthearted tone. What about the experience is grueling? Having to destroy a cube? It is a very sanitized very safe experience. Like you're not being asked to kill your companion pet dog. That would have been a horror. Instead it's make believe. Like you're a toddler playing house and pretending to divorce. The experience is make belief, which makes it funny when you're admonished for so quickly destroying your cube.
Anonymous No.719070886
>>719063776
Yeah, my problem is that Russell will be in it, so we're gonna hear a lot from him in the game.
Anonymous No.719070937 >>719071751
>>719043569 (OP)
Co-op is kino but the single player is just "find the white splotch, the game"
Anonymous No.719070939
>>719070656
Wait I think you're being serious
Anonymous No.719070946 >>719071316
>>719070868
I guess you just weren't paying attention to the stuff it didn't explicity tell you
>>719065210
>Chell has been kidnapped and imprisoned, it's possibly thousands of years in the future because she's been in stasis so she has no life outside of the facility. Everyone she knew is dead. She's being forced to be a lab rat for a homicidal maniacal machine. Her life is in danger, they've surgically altered her legs without her consent, she's a human crash test dummy. Many have tried to do these tests before her and have ended up blood stains on the floor. It's serious business.
>>719070868
What part of that is funny or lighthearted?
Anonymous No.719071075 >>719071181 >>719076395
>>719070656
>That's what made it so funny, and that's what made the cake is a lie so popular.
Nah m8, you're the secondary here. People were already saying "the cake is a lie" before the game was out, the ARG generated a lot of hype and it primed people not to take the game too seriously. Portal 1 is humoristic from the get-go. I just looked up a script to point out some jokes.

>"Hello and again welcome to the Aperture Science Computer-Aided Enrichment
Center. We hope your brief detention in the relaxation vault has been a
pleasant one. Your specimen has been processed and we are now ready to begin
the test proper. Before we start, however, keep in mind that although fun and
learning are the primary goals of the enrichment center activities, serious
injuries may occur. For your own safety, and the safety of others, please
refrain from-"

>"Excellent. Please proceed into the Chamber-lock after completing each test.
First, however, note the incandescent particle field across the exit. This
Aperture Science Material Emancipation Grille will vapourize any unauthorized
equipment that passes through it. For instance, the Aperture Science Weighted
Storage Cube."

"Fun and learning are our primary goals [...] serious injuries may occur" - humoristic line, juxtaposing the stated purpose of the tests with their reality.
"Please refrain from- " humoristic line, cutting off just before the explanation of what you're supposed to do to prevent serious injury.
"Aperture Science Material Emancipation Grille" - humoristic line, parodying corporate speak with euphemistic flashy naming conventions

This is within the first thirty seconds or so of starting portal. And they establish running themes. GladOS transparently and unconvincingly lying is a source of humour throughout much of the game. The flippant attitude towards maiming and death. The corporate parody. Turrets will say they are "dispensing products" when they fire - and why do turrets even need personalities?
Anonymous No.719071092
>>719068350
>Regardless, both gameโ€™s humor is entirely outclassed by Left 4 Dead 2.
It's just slapstick humor where you laugh at Coach for getting choked by the smoker for the #65535 times.
>AHHHHHHHH, THE BITCH IS CHOKING ME!!!! GET THIS MOTHER..... AHHHHHH.
Anonymous No.719071131
All I can say is, if you thought Portal was a horror game, it went over your head
Anonymous No.719071181 >>719071361
>>719071075
IDK man maybe you're just tone deaf. I doubt you played the game at all if you missed the horrific situation Chell finds herself in and how not funny it is.
Anonymous No.719071316 >>719071406
>>719070946
I wish someone would surgically enhance my legs.

>What part of that is funny or lighthearted?

I just explained it.
Anonymous No.719071361 >>719071406
>>719071181
>IDK man maybe you're just tone deaf.
lol

the irony
>oh no le horrific situation

Yeah, if the game didn't constantly make light of it I might almost feel horror

You know the characters in Borderlands also find themselves in a horrific situation, and in fact the earliest trailer showed a very serious game about surviving on a post-apocalyptic hellworld before they decided to change the tone halfway through production. The setting remained the same, though. Is Borderlands a horror game? Can you distinguish "tone" from setting?
Anonymous No.719071406 >>719071561 >>719071802
>>719071316
>>719071361
Alright, low EQ high EQ discrepancy. I'm seeing it. People who can empathize with Chell don't think the game is funny at all, people who can't think it's hilarious. Portal 2 was made for you not me. Cave Johnson joking about exploiting and torturing the homeless and moon rocks is probably what makes you lol.
Anonymous No.719071523
>>719065210
>Portal 1
>not trying to be funny
>WEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous No.719071561 >>719071601
>>719071406
>M-muh empathy
No bruv, you're just too autistic to understand jokes

Again, Borderlands features survivors in a post-apocalyptic hellworld. You meet people who are disfigured, several characters die horrible, painful deaths at the hands of Pandora's wildlife, or sadistic bandits, driven mad by the emanations of a cosmic horror. I guess only a person who lacks all empathy would ever think Borderlands is intended to be a funny game, huh?
Anonymous No.719071601 >>719072046 >>719073568
>>719071561
Yeah borderlands is pretty fucking tone deaf, you're just making my point stronger.
Anonymous No.719071647
>>719058360
This. I remember liking it when it came out, but then I replayed it a few years later and damn was it cringe-inducing.
Anonymous No.719071652 >>719072046
>>719070220
>>719070656
Still Alive, while being funny, also still adds to the machine characterization unlike Well Here We Are Again which is a lot more personal.
>we do what we must because we can
>for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead
this is pretty distopian corporate marketing gaslighting speak. Coupled with the fact she needs to keep positive words while being furious at you which can only be expressed as passive aggressiveness.
Anonymous No.719071751
>>719070937
>>719043668
This meme will always expose the shitters.

The challenge in a portal game is not in knowing where to place the portals. This is equivalent of looking at a challenging crossword puzzle and saying "FUCKING EASY MODE THE WHITE SPOTS TOLD ME WHERE TO WRITE THE LETTERS"

Play any of the really challenging community made test chambers and you'll notice they all cover their test chambers in dark surfaces as well. Because the challenge in portal 2 is figuring out how the different assets you're given in the game fit together and what order you are meant to do what. "Where on this wall do I put this portal?" was never a challenge.
Anonymous No.719071802 >>719071837
>>719071406
EQ doesn't exist.

IQ is intellectual quotient. Quotient means a number. So it's an attempt to give a number to g (general intelligence).

We have no tests to measure emotional intelligence and put it to a number. It's just something for low IQ people to stick to and try to feel superior over when they have no grounds for it.

I can empathize with laurel and hardy when they get into a slapfight and still laugh at them.
Anonymous No.719071837 >>719071935 >>719072078
>>719071802
yeah we get it you're low empathy have you tried the postal and state of emergency series I bet those make you laugh pretty hard
Anonymous No.719071840
>>719043569 (OP)
Wheatley sucks and he's like 80 percent of the game's humor. He's the epitome of soiboi quirk chungus cat lady garbage. Cave Johnson and Glados were fine.
Anonymous No.719071935 >>719072029
>>719071837
Let's say it's true. Aren't you being pretty unempathatic in how you're talking to me, undermining your point even from inside your own worldview?

Trying to feel superior to other because of having more empathy is inherently self-defeating.
Anonymous No.719072029 >>719072503
>>719071935
i'm just pointing out a difference. some people are high empathy and some people are low empathy, you're assuming that I'm insulting you because you're self conscious about it. it's not a judgment.
Anonymous No.719072046 >>719072106 >>719072773
>>719071601
LMAO
>>719071652
>this is pretty distopian corporate marketing gaslighting speak.
Right, so you do recognise that that can, in fact, be funny

It's not the setting that makes something horror or humour. It's how you handle it.
Anonymous No.719072078
>>719071837
Postal's humour is edgy and juvenile but it is undeniably an attempt at humour
Don't know State of Emergency
Anonymous No.719072106 >>719072218
>>719072046
or whether or not you have the capacity to feel for others suffering. not everyone does its ok
Anonymous No.719072218
>>719072106
A lot of humour does derive from human suffering. It's one of the ways we relieve some of the suffering, in fact.
Anonymous No.719072305
I personally think that Wheatley's betrayal is far more impactful than any moment where Glados is the villain, I'd even go as far to argue that he's a better villain overall
Anonymous No.719072415
>>719043668
I like how you midwits get mindbroke by that one jpg, despite the fact that EVERY modern games have the same playtesters.
Anonymous No.719072417 >>719073018
>>719070506
>discovering all the secret fuckery they do to make levels work was dissapoiting
THE WHAT?!?
Anonymous No.719072430
I remember this old comic book (?) where people are trying to get an overly sensitive kid to lighten up a bit, so they give him some Asterix to read, and then in the next panel he's in tears, exclaiming "oh, those poor Romans! How can these Gauls be so cruel?"
Anon is literally a punchline
Anonymous No.719072470
>>719043569 (OP)
Straight up one of the best games ever made
It's one of those where you don't need another but you can't help but want one just because the characters are fun and the world is interesting and the gameplay can get really cool
I also looove the soundtrack for it and the design for aperture and it's robots
also the opera at the end always gives me goosebumps! and when you see the skies and the field? it feels like such freedom! I love the ending of the second game ALOT!
Anonymous No.719072503 >>719072597
>>719072029
Don't be passive aggressive about it. I thought you had empathy and high EQ?

Too emotional about chell to be direct?
Anonymous No.719072597 >>719072641
>>719072503
fuck you who says i'm being passive agressive, you low empathy chimp. go work at a factory in china
Anonymous No.719072605 >>719073162 >>719075317
by the way why are people here so obsessed with reddit?
I'm not trying to diss or anything it's just everytime it comes up it just doesn't really make sense to me
Anonymous No.719072641 >>719072757
>>719072597
It would be funny if you were really the other guy and not trolling but it's a bit on the nose
Anonymous No.719072648 >>719072719
>>719043569 (OP)
i cried at the ending
Anonymous No.719072670 >>719072772
>>719043569 (OP)
Coop campaign >>>>> single player
Glados should have remained cold and emotionless instead of turning into an emotional woman over the course of the game.
Anonymous No.719072715 >>719072808 >>719072880 >>719072974 >>719074501
>>719043569 (OP)
I wish there was a game where you just explore the entire facility. No puzzles, no enemies, etc.
Anonymous No.719072719 >>719072767 >>719072935
>>719072648
Portal 2 is such an emotional game, anyone who thinks it's "funny" clearly lacks empathy
Anonymous No.719072757 >>719072831
>>719072641
Anonymous No.719072767 >>719072831
>>719072719
?
Why can't it be emotional and funny at the same time?
Anonymous No.719072772
>>719072670
I thought it added depth to her
besides she stayed cold but now also really pissed at you because you killed her and wrecked her home
Anonymous No.719072773 >>719072867
>>719072046
>Right, so you do recognise that that can, in fact, be funny
Of course it's funny, but the funny is coming as a sort of stress response to glados failed manipulation tactics
Anonymous No.719072808
>>719072715
you want a walking simulator?
I mean I guess the VR games are a little bit of that(sorta)
Anonymous No.719072831
>>719072757
Oh dear, that's... concerning

>>719072767
It just CAN'T OKAY
Anonymous No.719072867 >>719072987
>>719072773
>glados failed manipulation tactics
Which are all pretty funny
Anonymous No.719072880 >>719073215
>>719072715
It would realistically be the size of several gta maps stacked on top of each other.
I would have liked to at least view the lobby I guess
Anonymous No.719072935
>>719072719
those aren't mutually exclusive anon!
Portal 2 is funny but it also manages to be very emotional once you realise hwow dark everything is
imo the best way to describe the game is just bittersweet
it's funny yes but it's also sad
the ending is "happy" you got your freedom and earth seems to be healed from the combine but you're all alone, GLaDOS testing is useless without human subjects(robot testing doesnt feel the same to her)
And Wheatley is stuck in space forever.
Even the space core is sad. "too much space. I wanna go back"
Anonymous No.719072974
>>719072715
An open world portal game would have been a good way of making harder test chambers work by having them be optional side content.
Anonymous No.719072987 >>719073056
>>719072867
Yes. But manipulation is still aggressive and only fails because she isn't Human but is pretty close to one as a sort of uncanny valley effect.
Anonymous No.719073018
>>719072417
I spent some time trying to find scuffed solutions to puzzles, but you just run into small invisible walls and such. Sometimes there is a hidden accelerator, like the puzzle wher you have multiple jump pads over sludge and the first time you press the button for a cube you get some random debris. There is an obvious spot for a diagonal portal where the cube and player land exactly on a jump pad when going through, and that's because right above the diagonal wall is an area that sets direction and speed at a precise point. I was fucking around once and suddenly got launched from a wall segment because of it.

I get that it makes puzzles run reliable, but the whole game is diminished by not being able to just run on the physics.
Anonymous No.719073056
>>719072987
To be clear, you're not denying that this is a great premise for humour, right?
Anonymous No.719073057 >>719073126
Wait is someone actually trying to argue Portal 2 doesn't want to be funny? Motherfucker the entire first seconds of Chapter 9 are a big joke

"This is the part where he kills us!"
"Hello! This is the part where I kill you!"
>CHAPTER 9: THE PART WHERE HE KILLS YOU
>Achievement Unlocked: The Part Where He Kills You
traily !!zLGKB/yRaFq No.719073118 >>719073242
4chan schizos need to get it through their heads: the "reddit" archetype they obsess over doesnโ€™t exist. I see "le," "chungus," and other so-called reddit memes on 4chan about 100 times more often than on reddit itself. Whether or not they are uttered "ironically" is not relevant. Itโ€™s a bizarre mixture of depression and self-hatred that drives 4channers to whine about "reddit" memes that are scarcely found if you actually read reddit.
Anonymous No.719073126
>>719073057
No, I was being facetious and mocking the Anon who thinks Portal 1 is a serious horror game without a shred of humour
Anonymous No.719073162
>>719072605
It's a buzzword that basically stands for "the opposite of the things you have to like to be considered cool on 4chan"
Anonymous No.719073215
>>719072880
>would realistically be the size of several gta maps stacked on top of each other.
That's the point. Naissancee but bigger.
Anonymous No.719073242
>>719073118
does reddit also cause namefagging?
Anonymous No.719073259 >>719073453
reddit acts like 4chan more then 4chan nowdays anyways so
the whole thing is dumb lol
Anonymous No.719073453 >>719073656
>>719073259
yeah I agree reddit is just so much better isn' it?
Anonymous No.719073568 >>719074508
>>719071601
You don't understand tone, friend. Borderlands is not "tone deaf" - it has a certain tone. And when it comes to Portal, you are arguing that it is intrinsically horrific due to the setting, entirely in flagrant disregard of the tone of the game. You are the tone deaf one because you can't pick up on subtle humour and think blunt humour about serious topics is always inappropriate.
Anonymous No.719073656
>>719073453
Of course not.
acting like it doesnt mean being it
upvotes/downvotes are retarded and it lacks the anonymity im comfortable in.
Anonymous No.719074158
>>719057192
God ur such a miserable human bein - but then i forget that I'm on 4channel...
Anonymous No.719074353 >>719075172
>The cake is a lie!
The horror... the horror...
Anonymous No.719074501
>>719072715
I don't mind Infra-like game set in the Aperture Facility desu.
Anonymous No.719074508 >>719074682
>>719073568
Naw man, retards like you are why portal 2 is the way it is. You're supposed to figure out that portal 1 isn't funny, because of the context of the situation. It doesn't hit you over the head with it, most of it is in the environmental details, but I explained what you missed about the setting in my first post.
Anonymous No.719074647 >>719075272
If Portal 3 is a thing in the future, I'd like it if the game is set mostly in the abandoned parts of Aperture. It's the highlight of Portal 2 for me.
Anonymous No.719074682 >>719074801
>>719074508
>You're supposed to figure out that portal 1 isn't funny
Jesus Christ lmao
>Yeah they only made it seem funny as a test, if you laugh you failed

I didn't miss anything and I already told you that the setting does not determine the tone, *you* are missing the genuine humour though
Anonymous No.719074797 >>719075373
Gordon won
Anonymous No.719074801 >>719074930
>>719074682
> if you laugh you failed
it's weird how you can parse the gist of what I said while still stubbornly dismissing it.
Anonymous No.719074930 >>719075000
>>719074801
Parsing your gibberish does not entail acceptance.

Christ, like, how do you get it *so* entirely backwards? It's not funny for Chell, no - but you, as the audience, can laugh at the absurdity of the situation. It's not like GladOS is constantly cracking poor jokes but you're intended to see that the situation isn't funny at all, like some sort of Joker figure. It's the exact opposite. The lines aren't jokes diegetically, but they are understood as such by the player.
Anonymous No.719075000 >>719075434 >>719079349
>>719074930
>you're intended to see that the situation isn't funny at all
This is exactly what the first game was going for and because you (and the majority of people who played it) missed it, we got portal 2 which focused on le wacky jokes.
Anonymous No.719075172 >>719075487
>>719074353
It's literally intended to be a creepy part in the game. Did people forget that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqGXCQ_5WOc
Anonymous No.719075180
>>719043569 (OP)
>The humor aged pretty badly
it was novel at the time
Anonymous No.719075272
>>719074647
I always wanted portal 3 to be like you(a robot) being woken by a distress signal from GLaDOS
and aperture is once again ruins but it's worse then before
and it all happened because her bird experiment turned on her and those three little birds she raised turned out to be evil(theyre just regular birds but pecked everything they were not supposed to) and now GLaDOS needs help and you need to go around an ominous destroyed aperture in order to save her
Anonymous No.719075317 >>719075562
>>719072605
That's because you're a newfaggot and need to go back from whence you came
Anonymous No.719075373 >>719075579
>>719074797
Aren't all of Earth's oceans supposed to be sucked up from the Combine?
Anonymous No.719075434 >>719075794
>>719075000
>This is exactly what the first game was going for
It's exactly what the first game *wasn't* going for

Look, I understand that it can be hard to see humour when you don't "get" it, but we can analyse it objectively and look at some of the style figures employed by the writers. Bathos, irony, understatement, parody, slapstick, establishing and then subverting expectations, transgressing social taboos, to name a few, are identifiably present, and notably they are *not* jokes in the Watsonian sense, but only from a Doylist perspective. The writers intended for you to recognise them as jokes; you are the audience, not Chell.
Anonymous No.719075460 >>719075628
btw portal was always funny and idk why people are trying so hard to act like it wasn't.
portal 1 had plenty of funny bits and little quirky things just go check some of GLaDOS' dialogue:
>"2 + 2 = .... 10. IN BASE FOUR I'M FINE"
>"WEEEEEeeeee"
>"If you become light-headed from thirst feel free to pass out"
>"Maybe you should marry that thing since you love it so much"
not to mention the cake is a lie and hoopy the hoop
and ofc there's the song...
Anonymous No.719075487 >>719075954
>>719075172
It's literally not. It's darkly absurd.
Anonymous No.719075562 >>719075670
>>719075317
Peak monkey in the ladder room attitude
Anonymous No.719075579
>>719075373
Maybe there's time travel involved in HL3. Or it's Valve being lazy and just copied and pasted a NASA photo for it.
Anonymous No.719075613 >>719075746
Any other comfy puzzle games like this? I don't mean ones that have the same or even similar mechanics, just nice and comfy ones with maybe some story. All the puzzle games I own are break your balls difficult
Anonymous No.719075628
>>719075460
She talked like a Karen. And everyone hates those.
Anonymous No.719075670
>>719075562
Peak Redditor doing a heckin quip post
Anonymous No.719075746 >>719075848
>>719075613
Infra, it was made with Source engine too. Although it's mostly leaning into the walking sim aspect, with puzzles sprinkled around.
Anonymous No.719075794 >>719075909
>>719075434
No, I got the jokes, it's just that in the context of the situation they aren't funny. It's like a serial killer cracking wise with bone puns while he's sawing his victim's leg off. You're low empathy.
Anonymous No.719075848 >>719076025
>>719075746
Is it spooky?
Anonymous No.719075909 >>719075976 >>719076395
>>719075794
>No, I got the jokes, it's just that in the context of the situation they aren't funny.
The context of the situation is what makes them jokes.
>It's like a serial killer cracking wise
No, it's not, because, again, that would be diegetic, but Portal's humour is extradiegetic. You do not get it.
Anonymous No.719075954
>>719075487
It can be both.
Anonymous No.719075976 >>719076395 >>719076674
>>719075909
It's the syntax that makes them jokes, the context of the situation is what makes them not funny. It's a whoopee cushion at a funeral.
Anonymous No.719076025
>>719075848
It is
Anonymous No.719076260
>>719043569 (OP)
Great game, amazing graphics and insanely satisfying mechanics that modders have expanded upon quite well.

The writing is definitely an issue. You can tell Jay Pinkerton had a fuck ton of influence and his Redditard humor seeped through. That said, Johnson and GLaDOS were mostly unaffected and retain humor closer to Portal 1 than shit like Wheatley
Anonymous No.719076395 >>719078268
>>719075909
>>719075976
Ironically this anon put it well, though he was arguing with me:
>>719071075
>"Fun and learning are our primary goals [...] serious injuries may occur" - humoristic line, juxtaposing the stated purpose of the tests with their reality.
>"Please refrain from- " humoristic line, cutting off just before the explanation of what you're supposed to do to prevent serious injury.
>"Aperture Science Material Emancipation Grille" - humoristic line, parodying corporate speak with euphemistic flashy naming conventions
The joke is in the way it is written, but when you leave out the context that it is being told to a captive woman who has been mutilated by her captor and is being forced to risk being killed or maimed, it makes it not funny and it reads differently. Ironically you might be autistic if you think that you can crack jokes in somber situations and not have everyone think there's something wrong with you because you misread the room.
Anonymous No.719076674 >>719077173
>>719075976
Again, precisely the other way around. GladOS's delivery of the lines is straight. We, the audience, see the humour of the situation. It's deadpan humour.
>The joke is in the way it is written
And the context.
> Ironically you might be autistic if you think that you can crack jokes in somber situations and not have everyone think there's something wrong with you because you misread the room.
lmao
No, you're genuinely autistic because you're unable to distinguish fiction from reality. Playing Portal is not a somber situation - precisely because the game makes light of itself. If you think that's inappropriate, blame the writers. I'm just the messenger.
Anonymous No.719076694 >>719077456
>>719043569 (OP)
I think the humor is fine. Its a little heavy handed but that's considered subtle by today's standards, and if you ignore the fact such style of writing is overdone in our current year it's pretty strong. Tongue and cheek. I'll say the same for Old World Blues as well, you have to try and appreciate it at a time when meme culture didn't coopt the sci fi world. The voice cast of this game is perfect and I'd never change a thing about that.
Anonymous No.719076768
>>719065210
The tone of 1 was droning eerie sanitized quiet. The tone of 2 was heavy abrupt industrialization crashing. All you have to do is compare the soundtracks to understand.
Anonymous No.719077173 >>719077279
>>719076674
I know it's a fictional story, but it's presented to the player as real, in a realistic way. It's supposed to be believable and immersive.
>Playing Portal is not a somber situation - precisely because the game makes light of itself
You're personifying "the game". It doesn't make light of itself, one of the characters in the video game is written to be constantly cracking jokes, at the expense of the main character, who exists in a world where she has been kidnapped, imprisoned and is having gruesome tests performed on her.
Holy shit you're retarded.
Anonymous No.719077279 >>719077418 >>719078268
>>719077173
>You're personifying "the game".
Yes, because it is the game, as a work, that contains these jokes, it's not the characters making them.
>one of the characters in the video game is written to be constantly cracking jokes
GladOS is not cracking jokes, Anon. That is, in fact, a crucial element of the humour.

What you're arguing is basically that Airplane! is the harrowing tale of an airplane disaster narrowly avoided by a PTSD-stricken veteran, and the characters are assholes for constantly cracking jokes throughout it.
When, of course, the reality is that the humour derives from the characters acting straight in an absurd situation.

Take the interaction
>First time?
>No, I've been nervous lots of times
Is this character cracking a joke? No, he's genuinely nervous in this scene - the humour, to the audience, lies in the implausible misunderstanding, which subverts our expectations. Well, except you would be empathising with the nervous man and chastise people for laughing at his misery, I guess.
Anonymous No.719077351
They made these games instead of what people really wanted: half life 3.
You could argue that corporations are facist structures not here to serve our wants based on this alone. Now the owners of steam starts making billion dollar yachts instead of serving customers a single game. Itโ€™s quite crazy. I will never defend corporations ever again.
Anonymous No.719077356
>>719043569 (OP)
>The humor aged pretty badly
I don't know, I've come around on nerd humor, I now find it endearing more than anything. Recently replayed To the Moon, it's just like that as well. It was a simpler time.
Anonymous No.719077407 >>719077730
>>719070021
The difference between Glados1 and Glados2 is the roboticized corpo speak.
1:
>Please keep your hands out of the Aperture Science Matter Destabilizerโ„ข. Failure to do so may result in
>dismemberment
>death
>blood clots
>defertilization
>if suffering from prolonged exposure to the Aperture Science Matter Destabilizerโ„ข, please head to the nearest wash station, where a new womb may be swapped in you at no additional charge
2:
>Well... do you remember the Aperture Science Matter Destabilizer? I made a few... modifications. Nothing serious, just a tweak to the sensor that will scream at you if you don't have any parents.
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>It appears further modifications are in order. Maybe I could have gotten to that if you hadn't killed me, but I suppose we both have to bite a bullet, don't we?
Anonymous No.719077418 >>719077850 >>719077937
>>719077279
Holy fuck you can't even read.
Anonymous No.719077456
>>719076694
I mean, compared to HLA and Desk Job, Portal 2 is extremely subtle. And compared to Borderlands and other modern games, those three look like Citizen Kane kek
Anonymous No.719077497
>>719051293
Lorelei and the Laser Eyes
Anonymous No.719077730
>>719077407
Yeah, that happens cause in Portal 1 you destroy her Morality Core. P1 GLaDOS becomes P2 GLaDOS during her boss fight
Anonymous No.719077850 >>719077937 >>719078268
>>719077418
I'm curious to hear what you think I missed. You're blatantly media illiterate, and your understanding of tone, of humour, indeed, of fiction is entirely ass-backwards
Anonymous No.719077937 >>719078268
>>719077418
>>719077850
I'd like to add to that that I've literally explained, in writing, exactly where the humour in portal derives from, and you've given no indication that you are able to understand the written words in front of you.
Anonymous No.719078268 >>719078609 >>719078726
>>719077937
>>719077850
>>719077279
>that contains these jokes, it's not the characters making them.
This is just so factually wrong I don't know how to explain it to you. There's no refuting this. One of the characters named Glados has jokes written for her that her voice actor reads.
>GladOS is not cracking jokes, Anon. That is, in fact, a crucial element of the humour.
I've already explained that she is in fact the one cracking jokes here:
>>719076395
There's no arguing with you man. You just argue in circles, restating arguments that I've already refuted in a different way.
Anonymous No.719078360
Wheatley is funny
Anonymous No.719078609 >>719078726 >>719078843 >>719078958
>>719078268
Anon, I have already explained this to you, but maybe you need to look up the difference between "diegetic" and "extradiegetic"?
>One of the characters named Glados has jokes written for her that her voice actor reads.
Yes, they are jokes, the voice actor reads them knowing they are jokes, and the writers wrote them as jokes - extradiegetically
Diegetically, GladOS is delivering these lines perfectly straight, extradiegetically that is how she was written, and that is what the joke is.

GladOS does not see humour in the situation, the writers do. Your failure to understand this crucial distinction, indeed, your amazing ability to completely invert it in spite of the clear facts, lies at the heart of your misunderstanding.

So, in short, no, GladOS, the character, is not cracking jokes, the writers are, because they were writing a funny game
Anonymous No.719078726 >>719078958 >>719078962
>>719078268
>>719078609
>I've already explained that she is in fact the one cracking jokes here:
To expand on this, none of those are examples of "jokes" in the sense that we are supposed to think that GladOS thinks she is being funny. We're supposed to think she's deranged and that Aperture is a corporate hellhole.

GladOS does not intentionally create a juxtaposition - the writers did
GladOS does not intentionally interrupt herself at a crucial moment - the writers did
GladOS is not aware of the fact that the "Aperture Science Material Emancipation Grille" is a ridiculous name - the writers are
Anonymous No.719078805 >>719083796
>>719043745
>Humor aged badly
>Asks how
>Answer is "its le reddit"

Why are you guys so retarded and worthless?
How is this an answer to how it aged badly? get fucked
Anonymous No.719078843 >>719078970 >>719080917
>>719078609
>GladOS is delivering these lines perfectly straight
The difference between diagetic and extradiagetic is irrelevant because Glados delivery of these lines is comedic in it's timing and writing and you still fail to address the context of the situation in which it is being delivered, which again is ironic because both diagetically and extradiagietically it's not funny. You are deliberately ignoring the context that makes the situation not funny.
Anonymous No.719078945 >>719079590
>>719043569 (OP)
Portal 2 is one of the easiest 10/10 games. it virtually has no flaws at all.

Portal 2 hits the nail on every single aspect, the level design is creative and interactive, the gameplay mechanics are innovative and thought provoking, the writing is witty and clever with neat references, the aesthetics aged well because even today the game still looks good and the voice acting is top notch.

Maybe the soundtrack is meh, but it fits the game and the end credit performance is unique and memorable.

Honestly there is no way i can imagine giving this game less than 8/10 but its a 10/10 for me.
Anonymous No.719078958
>>719078609
>>719078726
Not part of this argument and just getting in, but how is this different from Wheatley? He's not doing jokes on purpose, he's just extremely stupid.
Anonymous No.719078962 >>719079003 >>719083357
>>719078726
The fact that you personally still think it's extradiagetically funny, just goes back to my earlier point that it would only be funny to a low empathy person.
Anonymous No.719078970 >>719079039
>>719078843
>The difference between diagetic and extradiagetic is irrelevant because Glados delivery of these lines is comedic in it's timing and writing
Indeed, that's the writers being funny, not GladOS
>you still fail to address the context of the situation in which it is being delivered
No, not at all, the context is what makes it funny. It's absurd.
>both diagetically and extradiagietically it's not funny
Damn. Humourless twat.
Anonymous No.719079003 >>719079349
>>719078962
Again, I'm just the messenger. Blame the writers, who clearly think they're being funny.
Anonymous No.719079039 >>719079274
>>719078970
>Damn. Humourless twat.
Yeah I already explained this to you an hour ago when I said that only low empathy people would find this funny.
Holy
Shit
You
Can't
Read
Anonymous No.719079274 >>719079415
>>719079039
Yes, you keep repeating that, but because you're simply fucking wrong, this just makes you a hypocritical holier-than-thou prick.
>Oh, I'm sorry, I can't laugh at this horrific situation because, unlike you, *I*have empathy
No, you're fucking autistic and you're completely missing the writers' intent
Anonymous No.719079349 >>719079580 >>719083058 >>719083981
>>719079003
>what is death of the author
We can't claim to know the writers intent without having asked them, it's my position that you're intended to see that the situation isn't funny at all
>>719075000
How many times are you going to make me repeat myself before you learn to fucking read?
Anonymous No.719079415 >>719084287
>>719079274
Yes, I am better than you. Seethe.
Anonymous No.719079491
>>719043569 (OP)
Valve's last game before they became an ASSFAGGOTS loot crate company that thrives off of cuts from selling shovelware.
Anonymous No.719079508
>>719067346
Whedon has been a blight on humanity
Anonymous No.719079580 >>719079691
>>719079349
>We can't claim to know the writers intent without having asked them
Right, only you can, huh? Death of the author, so you're wrong but I'm right!
Hypocritical, holier-than-thou prick.

Keep repeating yourself, you're still wrong. Demonstrably so. Your opinion literally isn't valid. It's not supported by textual evidence, and your supporting arguments are predicated on falsehoods and misunderstandings. I have shown you that lines that we both agree are intended to be humorous can only be understood as humorous extradiegetically, which means the game is funny, even though the characters don't find it to be funny. The exact opposite of your position.

You are wrong. Simple as.
Anonymous No.719079590
>>719078945
The music pops the fuck off in chapter 9 so I don't even mind
Anonymous No.719079691 >>719079892
>>719079580
I didn't say I was right an you were wrong anywhere, you're just so insecure (because you know you're wrong and having low empathy is an objectively antisocial trait) that you took it that way.
Anonymous No.719079735 >>719084754 >>719087363
Two fuccbois getting into a pretentious pissing fight over this Reddit chungus game. How embarrassing
Anonymous No.719079892 >>719079974
>>719079691
>Argues with me the entire thread, says I have low empathy for disagreeing with him
>"I didn't say you were wrong though, this just proves me right (though again I won't explicitly say that) :^)"
God damn what a narcissistic little smarmy cunt you are. Your "empathy" is clearly vapid virtue-signalling.
Anonymous No.719079974 >>719080350
>>719079892
You failed the Portal 1 litmus test my dude, you think it's funny. Low empathy.
neiner neiner neiner
Anonymous No.719080350 >>719080521
>>719079974
This nigga can't tell the difference between Scary Movie and Friday the 13th
>Horrifying! Why is everyone laughing? I am surrounded by low empathy psychopaths...
Anonymous No.719080521 >>719080989
>>719080350
>equating a parody to the tone of portal 1
that's a stretch but i'll allow it my inferior friend, I'll just keep a close eye on my wallet when I'm around you is all
haven't seen friday the 13th thoughbeit, is that the one with Jason? I thought it was supposed to be taken seriously, like portal is.
Anonymous No.719080917 >>719081071
>>719078843
Interpreting GladOS's lines as intentional jokes on her part would also suggest that GladOS is written with staggering self-awareness and is doing an irony-poisoned bit for the entire game. I.e., she is not callous about safety protocols, but only pretending to be as a joke at Chell's expense. She is not oblivious to the horrifying implications of her statements, but deliberately playing them up. She is not struggling to understand how humans think or function, but keenly aware of it and using that knowledge to manipulate. And the player is then expected to understand that GladOS is only pretending to be oblivious and callous and that the lines that would be funny are actually her being self-aware in the situation and putting on a performance for her own enjoyment.

A reading that has no real support from the game and adds very little if true. You're adding unnecessary layers to your interpretation for no reason.
Anonymous No.719080989 >>719081071
>>719080521
Portal is, in fact, parodic in tone, my tone-deaf "friend".
>I thought it was supposed to be taken
And I thought nothing was "supposed" to be taken any way since the Death of the Author
Anonymous No.719081071 >>719081190 >>719081289
>>719080917
>intentional jokes
Oh no, another person who didn't have breakfast this morning. I didn't say that the character was intentionally telling jokes, I said that they were written as jokes. Although that's an interesting speculation on your part that changes the dynamic somewhat if she was.
>>719080989
Pray tell what it is a parody of?
Anonymous No.719081131
"Portal 1 is a serious horror game" is, without a doubt, one of the absolute most retarded video game takes I've seen in my life
Anonymous No.719081190 >>719081319
>>719081071
>I didn't say that the character was intentionally telling jokes, I said that they were written as jokes.
Ah, so you do grasp the distinction? It's the writers trying to be funny, not GladOS? Weird thing for writers of a serious horror game to do, innit?
Anonymous No.719081289 >>719081415
>>719081071
>Pray tell what it is a parody of?
Corporations
All right, "satire" is the more appropriate term
Anonymous No.719081319 >>719081563
>>719081190
>so you do grasp the distinction
yet you fail to grasp the distinction that within the realistic setting the way it's presented, it's horror whether glados is sentient or not. it actually makes it even more horror if she is sentiently making these jokes and not just doing it as an unintentional flaw in her program. truly a fascinating angle I hadn't approached it from.
Anonymous No.719081415 >>719081636
>>719081289
If anything it was predictive of how impersonal and unintentionally creepy AI can be when talked to.
Anonymous No.719081563 >>719081784
>>719081319
>it's horror whether glados is sentient or not
Oh no
He can not, in fact, imagine what it's like not to have breakfast. How ironic. More ironic, I realise you fucked up the analogy in a way that, if it was intentional, would be a very funny joke. Because the whole point is, indeed, not whether or not someone had breakfast in the morning, but whether they can imagine hypotheticals.

Anyone, GladOS's sentience from a diegetic perspective is entirely besides the point here and not what the argument is about. The point is that the writers are the ones making jokes, for you, the player, to laugh at.
Anonymous No.719081636
>>719081415
Cool opinion, not relevant
Anonymous No.719081784 >>719082262
>>719081563
>Anyone
I could be pedantic and point out that you should have typed anyways, but I'm not going to because I like to pretend I'm above it.
>The point is that the writers are the ones making jokes, for you, the player, to laugh at.
Which if I may repeat myself again which I do so enjoy, is where we disagree because my position is that they ARE written as intentionally funny but that it's not funny because of the context of the situation (which you have again ignored).
The Glados is sentient and intentionally taunting and gaslighting Chell angle is pretty cool though, thanks for that. Broken clocks getting two birds stoned at once and all that.
Anonymous No.719082262 >>719082535
>>719081784
>I could be pedantic and point out that you should have typed anyways, but I'm not going to because I like to pretend I'm above it.
Right, in much the same way you pretended not to think you're better than anyone and pretended to know what the Death of the Author entails and pretended to not to say you think I'm wrong.
>Which if I may repeat myself again which I do so enjoy, is where we disagree
Yes, I know that. We disagree because you are stubbornly wrong.
>they ARE written as intentionally funny but that it's not funny because of the context of the situation
Whose intent? Because if they are intended to be funny, but you think the context (which is part of the humour, like I've addressed countless times, not ignored, as you claim) detracts from it, wouldn't that be a major cock-up on the writers' part? You know, since they're responsible for both the jokes and the context? What you're suggesting is patently ridiculous.
>The Glados is sentient and intentionally taunting and gaslighting Chell angle is pretty cool though, thanks for that.
Yeah, next time you can bait even more efficiently with that, because honestly you don't really have the chops to keep this bit interesting.
Anonymous No.719082535 >>719082973 >>719083112 >>719083251 >>719083785
>>719082262
I think you're getting mixed up in that you think it's a wrong and right thing and not just I didn't think it was funny and you thought it was funny (to repeat again). You're a portal 2 guy, I'm a half-life 2 guy.
you ignored the context again

Okay answer this question specifically: In what context within the setting is Glados telling these jokes? Is she telling them to a sassy black woman played for laughs? Is she telling them to an affable idiot played for laughs? Describe to me the setting of portal 1. Did Charlie Sheen make a cameo?
it was already described earlier in the thread
Anonymous No.719082973 >>719083058 >>719083837
>>719082535
>In what context within the setting is Glados telling these jokes?
She's not telling jokes.
> Is she telling them to a sassy black woman played for laughs? Is she telling them to an affable idiot played for laughs? Describe to me the setting of portal 1. Did Charlie Sheen make a cameo?
Damn, your sense of humour is... underdeveloped, to say the least.

The context of Chell being in genuine mortal peril contrasts with GladOS's matter-of-fact, euphemistic, corporate tone. That context is what makes them jokes. Told by the writers, who created the context for the jokes. Without that context, there would be nothing identifiably funny about them. It would literally just be corporate, bureaucratic drudgery. The writers carried it to an absurd extreme for humoristic purposes. Death by corporate policy and/or neglect becomes a punchline.
Anonymous No.719083058 >>719083204 >>719083732
>>719082973
>>719079349
Anonymous No.719083112 >>719083174
>>719082535
>I think you're getting mixed up in that you think it's a wrong and right thing and not just I didn't think it was funny and you thought it was funny (to repeat again)
Also, I'm not sure what you mean by this. The success of a comedic piece of writing can surely be measured by the extent to which the audience thinks its funny? Which makes Portal quite a succesful piece of comedic writing, you being an outlier.
Anonymous No.719083174 >>719083286
>>719083112
>appeal to popularity
Anonymous No.719083204 >>719083251
>>719083058
Yes, you keep insisting, but without evidence. I've given you logical arguments. I've gone over the structure of the jokes with you. All you have is
>but le context!
yet when I explain to you that the context contributes to the humour you just... repeat yourself.
Anonymous No.719083251 >>719083732
>>719083204
>>719082535
Anonymous No.719083286 >>719083357
>>719083174
It's not about popularity but about audience reception. Portal fails as a straight horror game but succeeds as a dark comedy game.
Anonymous No.719083357 >>719083732
>>719083286
>>719078962
Anonymous No.719083732 >>719083785
>>719083058
>>719083251
>>719083357
This your new bit? Pointing to places where you were wrong before isn't going to suddenly make you right. Should I just start pointing you to my previous refutations, then, to save time?
Anonymous No.719083785 >>719083837
>>719083732
>>719082535
Anonymous No.719083796
>>719078805
He's right though. Comedy ages poorly once it becomes oversaturated. Seinfeld's old material is dated purely because everyone overused the fuck out it. Now whenever I see his old standup I don't find it funny anymore because it's shit I've heard 1000 times already. Same thing with Dave Attell. The reddit humor is the same. You're just angry because you're unable to see it past the culture war lens.
Anonymous No.719083837 >>719083981
>>719083785
>>719082973
Anonymous No.719083856
I like portal 1 a little more because the vibes are immaculate but portal 2 is still one of my favorites. Like them for different reasons
Anonymous No.719083981 >>719084157
>>719083837
>>719079349
Anonymous No.719083992
>>719043569 (OP)
I actually replayed Portal 2 recently and it ended up getting on my nerves. The gameplay and puzzles are fine, but I just got sick of the quippy Glados shit and the werzel sounding Stephen Merchant yapping endlessly. The game's humor is Reddit, there's no two ways about it, and it aged like dogshit.
Anonymous No.719084157 >>719084287
>>719083981
All right, well, since the last argument was mine and it stands unrefuted, I'm going to consider this settled. You can relive your temporary victories if you like, pretending they are just like when you hit post and I had not addressed them yet.
Anonymous No.719084287 >>719084697
>>719084157
>>719079415
Anonymous No.719084697 >>719084754
>>719084287
Oohh, now that one is particularly petty. Must really sting, losing to someone supposedly "inferior".
Anonymous No.719084754 >>719085017
>>719084697
>>719079735
Anonymous No.719084824
>>719043569 (OP)
The sound design in this game is incredible
Anonymous No.719084892
Anonymous No.719085017
>>719084754
Anonymous No.719086102
>Oh my god! That man is being crushed between the gears of a machine and left completely traumatised by the experience! Such horror! I can hardly bear to watch!
>Why are you all laughing at this serious matter? Can you not see this is a horror movie?
Anonymous No.719086207 >>719086547
>>719043569 (OP)
I replayed it earlier this year
I loved it, amazing voice acting and a really interesting story, it makes me sad valve never finished tying the portal and the half life series together, going down the old aperture science while j k simmons narrate the entire thing was great.
Anonymous No.719086547
>>719086207
I think it's all right for Black Mesa to exist in Portal but I don't like Aperture existing in Half-life
Anonymous No.719087363
>>719079735
When did "fuccboi" become an insult among men, anyway? I thought it referred to the sort of guy who pulls a lot of chicks but doesn't stay with them. Using it in a derogatory fashion is something women do between themselves.
Anonymous No.719088782 >>719089131
>"Portal is a horror"
But it's not. Player gets awaken by an AI, gets experimented on with portals for a couple of hours and then the AI tries to kill him, but fails miserably because of its own ineptitude. It's a dark comedy. The tone is comedic, the setting is also comedic.
Anonymous No.719089131 >>719089464
>>719088782
I'm pretty sure there's precisely one person in the world who thinks Portal is a serious horror game and I've had the displeasure of running into him twice now
Anonymous No.719089464
>>719089131
Yeah and I'm as puzzled with his take as you are. That anon has a serius case of 'tism, imo.