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Anonymous No.719099574 >>719100804 >>719101080 >>719101183 >>719102231 >>719102517 >>719103494 >>719104260 >>719108792 >>719111064 >>719111308 >>719111735 >>719113269 >>719120902 >>719133036 >>719134264 >>719134679 >>719135659 >>719136957 >>719137935 >>719139610 >>719139763 >>719142474 >>719145482 >>719146364
fandom
how did this hot garbage of a website full of ads and clickbaits become the only fan wiki for games left
Anonymous No.719099970 >>719100090
Money, since they paid to be googles top search entry and started to buy other wikis like gamepedia and just threw their disgusting design all over it.
Anonymous No.719100090
>>719099970
/thread
Anonymous No.719100146 >>719100824 >>719100908 >>719102331 >>719123132 >>719126329 >>719139025 >>719141618
I'll keep clicking on Fandom as long as it's the first result.
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU HAVE TO CHECK OUT MY SHITTY INCOMPLETE HOMEBREWN WIKI YOU CAN'T JUST NOT TAKE A SIDE BE OUTRAGED STOP STOP STOOOOOOOOOOOP
No. I don't think will.
Anonymous No.719100283
the people collectively get what the people collectively fund
Anonymous No.719100804
>>719099574 (OP)
SEO forces them to the top of results when searching for info even if the fandom wiki has been abandoned or deliberately destroyed.
There's certainly other options though. Many large and medium sized properties have moved to custom made sites, Mediawiki, Breezewiki, or some other fork of them in an effort to escape the mess, you just need to scroll down a bit.
Fandom has utterly destroyed its reputation so a lot of prominent writers for them simply left, especially during the mass deletion and purge of any wiki containing or focused on subjects that were deemed not advertiser friendly.
A lot of their large wikis are now poorly maintained messes by skeleton crews of Fandom employees rather than users.
For example, the Yu-Gi-Oh Fandom wiki is barely functional and is missing a ton of pages. Yugipedia staff ditched it after Fandom began forcing randomized branded trivia videos with incorrect info onto any high view pages, like the one for Blue Eyes, which played a full page sized popup of a Did you know? trivia mess of 80% blatantly wrong info and 20% tangents about unrelated trivia.
Fandom also started forcing every wiki to include AI generated sections on pages that are almost entirely wrong, iirc on the Hollow Knight wiki it was writing incest fanfiction out as trivia because well, it's AI.
Anonymous No.719100824 >>719101048 >>719102180 >>719113181 >>719137110 >>719140414
>>719100146
Every single time there's an alternative "homebrew" wiki it's vastly superior to the fandom diarrhea
>path of exile
>lord of the rings
>Warcraft wiki
>UESP
>Hollow knight
Anonymous No.719100908
>>719100146
Enjoy your incomplete concealed vandalism moderated by suits who don't recognize it.
Anonymous No.719101048 >>719112879
>>719100824
PoE wiki had to fight pretty hard for that. Glad it went well.
Also Minecraft wiki finally got fed up with Fandom and even microshit told fandom to fuck off.
Anonymous No.719101080 >>719101175 >>719102341 >>719104485 >>719113739 >>719120993 >>719142728
>>719099574 (OP)
>*makes fandom a good website*
Anonymous No.719101175
>>719101080
*barely useable site
It's still obnoxious with the search page though. Not sure why they killed wiki styles.
Anonymous No.719101183 >>719101859 >>719134149
>>719099574 (OP)
They started out as Wikia, a genuinely above average platform that was easier to just pick up and play than all of the other options. You could just go to Wikia, start one for your topic of choice, and get to filling out articles without having to know anything about running or hosting a website.

That's how a lot of major wikis got started, and why they stuck with Fandom until the last moment.

But then, as more and more of Wikia got bought up by venture capital (Which was a process that began almost immediately, I acknowledge.) And the original board and executive staff were phased out, it got more and more predatory.

Eventually, they gradually rebranded to Fandom, getting more and more obtrusive with advertising and taking design control away from the individual wiki operators with each step.
They bought Gamepedia, one of their biggest competitors, left it separate and independent for a few years so those who migrated to it would produce more content for Fandom to run a billion ads over, then consolidated it all for SEO purposes, which is why Fandom sites always show up first. There are about twice as many pages that the algorithm sees, but you don't.

And now, Fandom still appears first, even if those Fandom wikis aren't supported by the same people, who've moved on to other platforms. All that content is still there, and there are still new people naive enough to use and update Fandom Wikis, often plagiarizing from non-Fandom wikis in the process.

Fandom know they have a captive audience who don't pay attention, so they just slam the pages full of ads and other moneymaking content.
Anonymous No.719101321 >>719101734 >>719101787 >>719102121 >>719102732 >>719117668 >>719129680
no idea
Anonymous No.719101703 >>719102083
I find it annoying that despite being designed for desktop screens the alternatives, such as gg, often present information very poorly or not at all.
I thought the autists who liked to document everything jumped ship... to document everything, not because they were told to spazz out over a name.
Anonymous No.719101734
>>719101321
I honestly can't believe there's anyone who uses or subscribes to their "fan central" shit, like who the FUCK needs this much 4 year old mahvel trivia and HBO max "news" (ads) fed to them 24/7
Anonymous No.719101787 >>719120993 >>719139482
>>719101321
I was going to lament the discordification of the internet but then I looked below that and I don't want to ask what that picture is.
Anonymous No.719101859
>>719101183
yep. the wow wiki was originally a wikia site, they migrated off fandom to gamepedia then THAT got eaten up, so they migrated again to wiki.gg. but many people don't know which is the current one.
Anonymous No.719102083
>>719101703
Depends on how active the property is and how dedicated the autist is.
Some autist wikis have basically nothing because a crew of less than 5 people couldn't handle such a large project, while others effortlessly devour everything and put a suitably autistic level of detail into theirs.
For example, Arknights ditched Fandom shortly after Fandom was shown to be deleting user written articles for corporate paid promotions on other wikis, and moved to wiki.gg.
The level of detail is autistic and constantly updated with full datamined stat info and filenames even for unreleased content only in CN.
Anonymous No.719102121 >>719102386
>>719101321
you can get it to pic related by blocking enough elements. you need to make the filters apply to fandom.com though because by default they'll apply to the specific fandom site you're on, not all of them.

ignore the ugliness, that's more of a consequence of my own customizations.
Anonymous No.719102180 >>719102732 >>719105954 >>719106605
>>719100824
In regards to LOTR, I'm pretty Tolkien Gateway is older than any wiki including the original Wikipedia
Anonymous No.719102231 >>719138296
>>719099574 (OP)
Wikis are splintered across countless games and series now, but fandom is the first and sometimes only thing that pops up because the corporate conglomerate that owns it has the $$$$ to drop on SEO.

This is your reminder that corpofascism isn't coming; it is here currently, today.
Anonymous No.719102331
>>719100146
>i like consuming shit and nobody can stop me!!!
ok?
and?
Anonymous No.719102341
>>719101080
It's still shitty even with this
Anonymous No.719102386 >>719102505
>>719102121
Why use this instead of the perfectly good wiki it has elsewhere though?
You don't have to emulate Izuna's intelligence just because you love her
Anonymous No.719102505 >>719102830
>>719102386
i tried going to the .wiki one several times but ended up not seeing what i was looking for at the time. this was months ago so i don't even remember what anymore.

if there's a third wiki besides the .wiki one i'm not aware of it.
Anonymous No.719102517
>>719099574 (OP)
Can't wait for them to go bankrupt, all the wikis they host have low quality information and terrible layouts
Anonymous No.719102690 >>719127613 >>719128073
https://getindie.wiki/
Anonymous No.719102732
>>719101321
>when you see it

>>719102180
Based Tolkien Gateway enjoyer.
Anonymous No.719102830
>>719102505
Iirc the only thing the good wiki missing is story scenes/dialogue info. The fandom one has blurbs on story NPCs like Gematria/Decagrammaton characters.
That's about it I think.
Anonymous No.719103215 >>719105010 >>719106423 >>719111331
>remember that Leisure Suit Larry wikia had a bunch of images from the games
>go check it because I needed one to post in a thread
>it got nuked
I can't believe LSL is too spicy for the modern internet.
Anonymous No.719103494 >>719105525 >>719105701
>>719099574 (OP)
>full of ads
I never had ads but then I decided to play a game on Window7 Steam, therefore offline, so I used my phone to access internet wiki and holy shit you phonenegros have to deal with this much fullscreen ads that constantly load and pushes the content down all the time? Never accessing internet on a phone ever again.
Anonymous No.719104260 >>719107507
>>719099574 (OP)
You haven't seen how bad that crap truly is until you try to check on something while on a phone.
They leave you with maybe 15% of the actual page visible while the rest is covered in ads, random autoplaying videos and worthless bloat.
Anonymous No.719104350
Every day I thank god for the existence of Doomwiki.org.
Anonymous No.719104485
>>719101080
These days it's not enough, you need to recompletely rewrite the css to get it useable.
And you're still giving ad impressions for loading the loading, they just get deleted after your browser's downloaded it.
RIP antifandom, they've started filtering it too.
Anonymous No.719105010
>>719103215
They mass purged all non-advertiser friendly wikis a few years ago
Anonymous No.719105525
>>719103494
you lie like a little bitch and probably are one
Anonymous No.719105701
>>719103494
Most sensible people use a browser with a built in adblocker on mobile.
Anonymous No.719105954
>>719102180
Close but no, the OG Wiki is from 2001 and Tolkien Gateway was 2003
Anonymous No.719106423 >>719106541
>>719103215
>go to get an image
>wikis are where most of them live
>... it's all webp
>convert it
>... it's a webp gif
>... it can't be copypasted into an image editor to fix
Sigh
Anonymous No.719106541
>>719106423
I fucking hate webp so much it's unreal
Webbums are so good why did Webp end up as zero support unloadable dogshit
Anonymous No.719106605
>>719102180
maybe he meant the lotr online, the mmo
though I think that always used mediawiki and existed before fandom took over when it bought gamepedia
Anonymous No.719107507
>>719104260
>15%
Try 5%. Many of them have two popups that are overlaid, covering the whole screen. This is typically a video on top of an age determiner to tell what ads to deploy. On larger wikis they will often also push the false AI questions/trivia section to the top as well, so you actually have to break through 3 levels of ads and slop to get that 15% of page visibility.
Anonymous No.719108792
>>719099574 (OP)
They literally bought up all the wikis.
They would go to a wiki's owner and offer them a cash buyout. For smaller/obscure games, it would be as little as a few hundred bucks. And as evidence, everyone sold out.
Consider you ran a game wiki for a decade, or at the very least own the domain. Its money out of your own pocket and you don't typically generate revenue from it. Then suddenly you get an email from a company that wants to pay you $3k for your wiki and it's domain (as to forward to fandom/wikia for a few months). "Wow! I can make money from my site?" So they take the offer.
Anonymous No.719111064
>>719099574 (OP)
>ads and clickbaits
Use adblock
Anonymous No.719111172 >>719136435
>fandom complaints
>look inside
>too retarded to install an adblocker
Anonymous No.719111308
>>719099574 (OP)
There's still wiki.gg
Anonymous No.719111331
>>719103215
They tried to make Giant Bomb it pg-13 on their podcasts and that ended up with Giant bomb becoming independent

They still own gamespot tho
Anonymous No.719111735 >>719120819
>>719099574 (OP)
>make a small fansite on Wikia 17 years ago with myself as admin
>barely any edits
>give blessing to some autist who wanted to edit it
>eventually grew to hate wikis and saw them as ruining as Internet
>years later, now 6,000 articles with some lime-green color scheme
>feel nothing but shame and disgust when it comes across in Google hits
I wonder if I still have admin privileges.
Anonymous No.719112879 >>719114778
>>719101048
didn't fextralife pull some bullshit for PoE?
Anonymous No.719113181
>>719100824
Which one of these is the good game?
Anonymous No.719113269
>>719099574 (OP)
>2025
>not using brave
???
Anonymous No.719113319 >>719114673 >>719114895 >>719138737 >>719139763
https://breezewiki.com/

>BreezeWiki makes wiki pages on Fandom readable

>It removes ads, videos, and suggested content, leaving you with a clean page that doesn't slow down your device or use up your data.

>To use BreezeWiki, just replace "fandom.com" with "breezewiki.com", and you'll instantly be teleported to a better world.

>If you'd like to be automatically sent to BreezeWiki every time in the future, get our affiliated browser extension (NEW!) or check out the tutorial in the manual.

>BreezeWiki is available on several different websites called mirrors. Each is independently run. If one mirror is offline, the others still work.
Anonymous No.719113739 >>719114204 >>719115229 >>719133902
>>719101080
UO makes the entire internet usable, I'm shocked every time I use a default browser that people are okay with whack-a-mole 24/7 with ads everywhere
Anonymous No.719114204
>>719113739
Normalfags genuinely don't know any better
Anonymous No.719114673
>>719113319
>Sorry! Fandom isn't allowing BreezeWiki to show pages right now.
Anonymous No.719114778 >>719116013
>>719112879
Yeah fextra is abominable as well. Wonder if they felt that antibotting purge that hit twitch recently because of all their embed manipulation
Anonymous No.719114895
>>719113319
They got butthurt about this and started blocking breezewiki.
Anonymous No.719115229
>>719113739
>Firefox lets their shit expire and it disables all extensions for a few days
>I'm exposed unprotected to the modern unblocked web before I see it
Felt like being kidnapped from my quiet small town and being dropped into the shittiest part of Detroit instantly
The web is legitimately completely unusable at this stage of ad bloat, there's ads that are designed to pop up in front of something you're going to click that instantly install bloatware
Anonymous No.719116013 >>719116354
>>719114778
yeah heard about the botting but for PoE 2 i heard they got early access and pumped datamine shit into their wikis to outrank the community one before it
Anonymous No.719116354 >>719117083
>>719116013
Ah brutal, no wonder they were snubbed by the devs
Anonymous No.719117083 >>719117787
>>719116354
oh shit when did that happen? lmao good
Anonymous No.719117668
>>719101321
Is that fucking lemonparty?
Anonymous No.719117787
>>719117083
It's moreso that they and fandom always vie for official status and because the community hates both of them with a passion, the devs declared poewiki and the sequel one to be the official ones, which is a very easy way to get around SEO.
Another example is Ark iirc.
Anonymous No.719120819 >>719123075
>>719111735
Which one
Anonymous No.719120902
>>719099574 (OP)
They bought the competition. Everybody who says some gay shit that goes against this is retarded and hereby officially insulted.
Anonymous No.719120993 >>719121106
>>719101787
holy newfag
>>719101080
Isn't this shit kill?
Anonymous No.719121106
>>719120993
Only if you're using Chrome but they have a shitty "lite" version for browsers with manifest v3. I use Firefox just so I can use UBO normally.
Anonymous No.719121547 >>719125782
I think the vandalism is really funny. the deeprock fandom wiki is full of fake updates and fabricated nonsense like extra classes and tf2 crossover events that never existed. it's got to be at least 40% fake info by this point.
Anonymous No.719121813 >>719122941
They paid for the first place on google so they deserve it. It's a free market.
Anonymous No.719122941
>>719121813
Not a bot btw
Anonymous No.719123075 >>719124610
>>719120819
Malls & Retail Wiki
Anonymous No.719123132
>>719100146
>YES PLEASE DADDY FANDOM-SAMA, FUCK ME IN THE ASS WITH YOUR GIGANTIC AD-FILLED SIDEBAR COCK!!!! RAPE MY LITTLE SISSY USER ASS HARD WITH YOUR SHITTY FUCKING UX!!!!
That's kind of gay, anon.
Anonymous No.719124610
>>719123075
Huh. Well you certainly picked the absolute prime for mega autistic hyperfixation tards to leap on. Many lower functioning adults are obsessed with that because of their formative years featuring it so often, similarly to certain low priced car models or signposts.
I'm not surprised it's so big now. You should check if you do have admin rights.
Anonymous No.719125782
>>719121547
It's extra funny when people who don't know stumble on it and ask the other players
I think the most famous one is that Terraria mod
Anonymous No.719126194 >>719126542 >>719128713 >>719128810 >>719138963
>I could get a 100kb text file from gamefaqs that contains literally every single piece of information you could possibly need about a game
>or I could use this website where every single tiny minutia of information is on a different page that also needs to load 80mb of ads every time you open a page
Zoomers are so stupid it's unbelievable
Anonymous No.719126329 >>719126361
>>719100146
For its shitload of problems, it has the most convenient lay-out by far
Anonymous No.719126361
>>719126329
Maybe on opposite day
Anonymous No.719126473
gamefaqs:
Anonymous No.719126542 >>719126905 >>719127372 >>719129012 >>719135512
>>719126194
honestly as someone who used to use fandom a lot more one thing i appreciate a fuckton about gamefaqs is that the text files there actually explain gameplay, which seems to be a vanishingly rare thing on wikis considering a lot of them are way more focused on "lore" than the actual gameplay or whatever
Anonymous No.719126905 >>719135512
>>719126542
>a lot of them are way more focused on "lore" than the actual gameplay or whatever
There's something intangibly woman-coded about Fandom, and this is a big part of it
Anonymous No.719127238 >>719132557
Fextralife wikis are dogshit but they have more coverage on some games that have no other wiki like Divinity Original sin 1/2
Anonymous No.719127372 >>719129132
>>719126542
Most of them don't even have "lore" information. There's been times when I've been trying to remember what happened to a character or something in a game and I've looked up that character on a wiki and they either have no description at all, it's just a copy pasted marketing blurb or it's some extremely basic one sentence description like "John is a human male who appears in the quest [Quest Name]." and that's it. I'm sure this crap is all AI generated to game jewgle algorithm because none of it is actually useful information to a human.
Anonymous No.719127613
>>719102690
im extremely amused by how much effort was put into this
jfc just look at the permissions list

is this meant for turbo autists that have meltys whenever they see a fandom link?
Anonymous No.719127979 >>719131184
I still refuse to open anything from that site ever since 2014. I always look for alternative wikis, even if they’re half-empty or stuck in 2012.
If I can’t find what I need, I’ll dig through old forums or pay for a guidebook before giving them a single click. I hope something better rises up and kills it for good
Anonymous No.719128073
>>719102690
Thanks for sharing that
Anonymous No.719128713
>>719126194
I'm not going to defend fandom's insipid bloatmaxxing but sometimes it is easier to navigate information when it is properly segmented than when it is in a single text dump.
Atelier is an example. Ironically, the Ryza 2 wiki is very complete, but it is also well organized with links between sections and not just a single gargantuan page.
Anonymous No.719128810 >>719140683
>>719126194
I'm not going to defend fandom's insipid bloatmaxxing but sometimes it is easier to navigate information when it is properly segmented than when it is in a single text dump.
Atelier is an example. Ironically, the Ryza 2 guide on gamefaqs is very complete, but it is also well organized with links between sections and not just a single gargantuan page.
Anonymous No.719129012
>>719126542
>used to play Crash Fever, a PnD clone
>Autists separated it into gameplay wiki and lore wiki
>Game ended service and the publisher withdrew every single game they ever published, even offline ones, from international availability
>At the time of the shutdown the lore wiki had over 20x the pages of the gameplay one
>The lore that was basically nothing got dozens of pages explaining some characters
>Gameplay guides to the extremely difficult stages were barren
>The only other resource, ironically enough, a reddit for it, fucking BANNED GUIDES BECAUSE THEY HURT THE EGO OF WHALES
Fuck
Anonymous No.719129132
>>719127372
I fucking despise those. It's literally worse than useless to have a stub like that.
Anonymous No.719129680
>>719101321
dude WHAT THE FUCK
Anonymous No.719131184
>>719127979
For me it's searching up the game's title in a foreign language (usually Japanese or Korean, all the Chinese stuff demands an account) and finding an absurdly detailed and helpful wiki.
I remember once I found a game that only had a wiki in Portuguese for some reason, but damn that was a good wiki.
Anonymous No.719132557
>>719127238
The problem is a lot of their stuff is wrong. I remember people just being really confused for a while because of their Dark Souls info, can't recall which one though.
Anonymous No.719133036
>>719099574 (OP)
>the only fan wiki
miraheze is right there retard. you also have wiki.gg
btw video ads are cancer. why hasn't a single browser implemented a video blocking feature? flashblock stopped flash ads and you had an override by right clicking and selecting "run this flash application." why the fuck can't they do the same for videos?
Anonymous No.719133727 >>719134167
The wiki domain owners deciding that allowing anything but serious business projects is bad because reasons, and booting everything out into that hell-hole.
Anonymous No.719133902
>>719113739
It doesn't. Because it's Cloudflarenet now primarily. The start of a beautiful slippery slope that will lead everyone who doesn't jump ship to horrible places. Instead of removing shitty abusive users, or ISPs that don't deal with their shitty clients, it's this now.
Anonymous No.719133952 >>719135295 >>719135853
Let’s settle this once and for all: which wiki host is the absolute worst? Fandom or Fextralife?
Anonymous No.719134149 >>719134665
>>719101183
>There are about twice as many pages that the algorithm sees, but you don't.
So what's the solution? Alternative search engines? They are often lacking but I guess there's no other choice now.
Anonymous No.719134167
>>719133727
other way around. fandom cunts are fucking nazis and will swiftly delete anything that makes its jannies mad, including screenshots, fair use be damned
meanwhile independent wikis like transformers have more freehand styles
Anonymous No.719134264
>>719099574 (OP)
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/1682-google-hit-hider-by-domain-search-filter-block-sites
My suggestion to you is install this and then block fandom from your search results
Anonymous No.719134665 >>719134853 >>719136029
>>719134149
The solution is Google's algorithm being changed so you can't game it by having duplicate pages with the same information all aliased to each other, and remove the ability to pay for priority without being labeled an ad. But they'd never do that. It makes too much money for them to just take straight-up bribes for search results priority.

A lot of the same people who built Google in the first place are still in charge. You'd think they'd know they're ruining the product. Maybe they are, but their priorities are of in the fucking clouds now and they're just turning a blind eye while the shareholders and upward failing jargon executives ruin everything.
Anonymous No.719134679
>>719099574 (OP)
>Have autistic, encyclopedic knowledge of game
>Memorise all in-game weapon descriptions, mission briefings, character bios
>Even read the game manual for more info
>Search up wiki. Get Fandom
>absolutely anaemic at best, filled with typos, grammatical errors, and unverified head-canon at worst
>Spend a whole weekend dumping info, ensuring it reads smoothly. Update better quality photos. Provide sources.
>Some butthurt faggot "top contributor" disputes it. Has absolutely everything changed back.
>Decide to never contribute again.
This was years ago. Never looked back. Fandom is retarded.
Anonymous No.719134853
>>719134665
Duh, I don't believe in a corp giving me (or you, or him etc.) a solution so I'm talking about what we can do about it.
>You'd think they'd know they're ruining the product.
They absolutely do. They don't care. Money lines pockets, fucks are not given.
Anonymous No.719135295 >>719136231
>>719133952
Fandom can be "fixed" by using a shitload of adblock and userscripts to cut out all the garbage that gets in the way of the user-generated content. Fextralife is unfixable because it's garbage all the way through.
Anonymous No.719135512
>>719126905
>>719126542
Lore allows people to participate in a fandom (hyuk) without actually investing in it. You would have to play some of the games in a series to know what you're talking about, mainly from a gameplay perspective. When you focus on 'lore', you can skip the gameplay and the purchase of a game and simply go to a wiki and look up whatever game's backstory and setting and then you can jump in a conversation. Notice you got a lot of Mario-related threads that aren't focusing on the gameplay but Mario getting rejected by Peach in Odyssey or that one faggot who won't let go of Pauline being turned into a kid for one game?

Lore is the most cost-effective way to become a 'fan' of something, especially with let's plays and longplays allowing people to see a game without playing it.
Anonymous No.719135659
>>719099574 (OP)
wikipedia decided against inclusionism, which opened the door for grifters like fandom

https://gwern.net/inclusionism
Anonymous No.719135853
>>719133952
remember when elden ring released and the top results on google were all fextralife pages that were all blank except for a massive popup for the faggot owners twitch stream
Anonymous No.719136029 >>719136382
>>719134665
>You'd think they'd know they're ruining the product.
Ironically, after a certain point, increasing the quality of the product reduces revenue. If search is too efficient, you see fewer ads. Internal Google documents on this phenomenon were revealed during the Department of Justice's antitrust lawsuit.
Anonymous No.719136231 >>719136580 >>719138660 >>719138870 >>719144990
>>719135295
while i see your point i also want to use your post to ask, why exactly is fandom burying normal wiki features under hamburger buttons, pull out menus, dropdowns and charms? why are they enforcing the most absolute tiresome of all mobile experience features to desktop users, who obviously just want the search box on the screen at all times to directly type or paste the thing they're looking for into? do their designers not understand flexboxes were made specifically for this purpose? we're in the here and now of being able to do what they're not doing and everyone hates them so why wouldn't they just do it? is this a fucking inside job? what is really going on?
Anonymous No.719136382 >>719136921
>>719136029
Making your product suck is a precarious situation. As soon as a viable competitor appears, you're fucked. And that is happening. Google has lost market share to DDG and Brave every single year since they've been available.

Microsoft is only getting new market share for Windows 11 as people's computers age out and need to be replaced. Almost no one is upgrading voluntarily. If Valve get Proton working perfectly and put out a competent and normie friendly commercial Linux Distro for desktop, Microsoft's market share will drop extremely quickly. Because no one wants this shit, they only use it because there's no other option that does what they need it to.
Anonymous No.719136435
>>719111172
They actively circumvent adblockers and CSS filters. Fandom is pure cancer no matter how you slice it
Anonymous No.719136496 >>719136686
I contributed for an indie game's Fandom wiki because the game is super niche and nobody is going to make a different one. Even if I made it, I don't have enough autism to complete it anyway
Anonymous No.719136580 >>719136904
>>719136231
>and everyone hates them
Mobilefags probably don't because the average never used a desktop, and in future the average won't even see one over their entire lives. This is what we get for accomodating mobilefags that whined endlessly that they can't comfortably view this or that on glowscreens. Better to avoid repeating this mistake next time.
Anonymous No.719136686
>>719136496
Pastebin exists. You could possibly get away with making something like a github repository for it as well.
>I don't have enough autism to complete it anyway
There is no way you are the only still living player who cares about it.
Anonymous No.719136904 >>719136998
>>719136580
but like it's incredibly easy to just use javascript or CSS variables to detect the width of the browser, or specifically even the element it's in, and just show the goddamn search bar.
i struggle to rationalize this level of hatred for specific users, especially when a lot of these wikis they host are for PC games
it makes no sense to have such aggressive design online
Anonymous No.719136921
>>719136382
>Making your product suck is a precarious situation.
Not while you have a monopoly. Which is more or less what you said about a viable competitor, but it's not a fair fight when Google's got deals with browsers and phone manufacturers.

>Microsoft is only getting new market share for Windows 11 as people's computers age out and need to be replaced. Almost no one is upgrading voluntarily.
True. We'll see what happens in October.

>If Valve get Proton working perfectly and put out a competent and normie friendly commercial Linux Distro for desktop, Microsoft's market share will drop extremely quickly.
Linux is great and always improving, especially these days with Valve helping out, but there's still too much Windows-exclusive software to see any max exodus any time soon.
Anonymous No.719136957
>>719099574 (OP)
Private equity found yet another niche to extract rent from. Rolling nerds who write wikis on the internet must have been like shooting fish in a barrel. Welcome to the real world, where there's always a rich fucker trying to make money by exploiting you or the things you like.
Anonymous No.719136998
>>719136904
They have zero incentives to do anything for a small and not "promising" (not too dumb/complacent to resist predatory practices) demographics. So they don't.
Anonymous No.719137110
>>719100824
OSRS has an amazing detailed wiki, makes it so much more enjoyable for me
Anonymous No.719137935
>>719099574 (OP)
>use extensions to automatically hide their results or redirect them to breezewiki
>plus everything I care about has it's own dedicated fan websites that are still up to this day
Not my problem.
Anonymous No.719138296
>>719102231
>le corpofascists
funny because the reason I hate fandom is because it's moderated by the opposite of that
Anonymous No.719138660 >>719138870
>>719136231
My assumption is that the average corporate executive is fucking retarded. They pay consultants to collect a bunch of metrics and show them reports about "impressions" and "conversion" and "bounce rate" and other things the executive won't understand, and the result is a nice Powerpoint presentation with colorful charts in it that proves the numbers need to go up (or maybe down, but the important part is that they definitely aren't where they should be). Then the execs hire contractors to do the things the consultants said would move the numbers, even if those things are the complete opposite of what any sane human being would want. In theory some of those numbers correspond to making more money, but if your userbase is already locked in then it doesn't actually matter because they're stuck dealing with your bullshit anyway.
Anonymous No.719138737
>>719113319
>Sorry! Fandom isn't allowing BreezeWiki to show pages right now.
Great website.
Anonymous No.719138870
>>719136231
>>719138660
What if they are right and the people who don't own the biggest gaming wiki host are the idiots?
Anonymous No.719138963
>>719126194
Sadly the newer the game the more useless gamefaqs is. Nobody bothers making guides anymore except for the most popular stuff.
Anonymous No.719139025
>>719100146
>I'm so lazy I can't even scroll the mouse wheel.
okay faggot.
Anonymous No.719139482
>>719101787
It's a classic
Anonymous No.719139610
>>719099574 (OP)
these sites fucking raise my phone's temperature by 20 degrees whenever I use them
this is why im not given a cent to wikipedia
Anonymous No.719139763
>>719099574 (OP)
>Pays for top search results
>Given groups are either too lazy to host their own

It is funny to me that Jewbo Wales owns both Wikipedia and Wikia/Fandom, you think the latter could be less insufferable but nope.

>>719113319
Sadly the Fandom jews caught onto it, the best it can do now is an extension that redirects you to independent wikis.
Anonymous No.719140414
>>719100824
Nah, not always. There are a lot of mini fandom wannabes that pull the same shit with more clickbait and less bloat.
For every Mizuumi or Touhouwiki, there are at least five little c/p content farmer wikis.
Anonymous No.719140683 >>719140931
>>719128810
Gamefaqs did start encouraging that after a certain point. But all older faqs that are basically one long file, written for the old web instead of the semi-current one, are just like that.
Most of the authors are gone or DGAF anymore, so won't be reformatted out of respect, and people who want to go through the trouble of doing their own were always in short supply to begin with.
The thing that really made gamefaqs different was the game-specific forums bringing people together to pool and check information. You'd start off with proto-faqs spanning a page or two worth of posts, and eventually wind up in a solid collection of informaton that someone would then reformat into a proper FAQ with their own additions. Discord and Youtube ain't got shit on that crowd-sourced efficiency.
Anonymous No.719140931 >>719141035
>>719140683
Everything in one file makes it easy to ctrl+f anything you need. Html is bloat.
Anonymous No.719141035
>>719140931
When it's done right, yeah. The FAQ authors who go out of their way to make section codes in the TOC and shit were doing god's work.
When you're not sure exactly what you're looking for though, and the author didn't do something like that(and may be using alternative phrasing you're not used to for some things), then it becomes utter fucking hell to find what you want.
Anonymous No.719141618 >>719142682
>>719100146
>I LIKE TO EAT SHIT I WILL LITERALLY EAT EVERY PILE OF SHIT I FIND ON THE STREET AND YOU CANT STOP ME WAWAWA
weird flex but ok?
Anonymous No.719142474
>>719099574 (OP)
Not the only one. Miraheze and Wiki.gg would like to talk to you.
Anonymous No.719142682
>>719141618
Gen Z moment.
Anonymous No.719142728
>>719101080
this plus noscript are bare minimum
Anonymous No.719144832
>Modern Internet providers jolt ads out the ass on every single website
>WTF WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE USING ADBLOCK NOW
I wanted to respect but Youtube giving me back to back 5 second unskippable ads broke me
Anonymous No.719144990
>>719136231
when you see fandom as the internet mafia designed to extract as much ad revenue off fiction (endless occuring content stream back by free nerd sweatshop labor force). pages are optimized for ad space. that search box you wanted? its costing them ad view conversions. the videos are the crown jewel since its actual companies bidding to convert the page visitors to their products. this shit is all feeding jimmy wales yacht since he couldn't profit off wikipedia he span it out to for profit fictionpedia using the mediawiki engine.
Anonymous No.719145482
>>719099574 (OP)
The fandoms I frequent are so niche nobody bothers to make a different alternative. So I have to deal with this shit
Anonymous No.719146364
>>719099574 (OP)