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Anonymous No.719177840 >>719178947 >>719178974 >>719180380 >>719183579 >>719184092 >>719184929 >>719186190 >>719186625 >>719187275 >>719187908 >>719188307 >>719188692 >>719189594 >>719190203 >>719190350 >>719192714
>So, um, what if Odin was a gaslighting narcissist?
>OMG, like my dad?
>Yeah, but like, ten times worse! Just a total toxic abuser chud
Anonymous No.719178185 >>719178339 >>719178412 >>719178837 >>719178923 >>719179045 >>719179348 >>719179350 >>719179526 >>719179571 >>719179585 >>719180112 >>719180980 >>719182451 >>719184245 >>719184929 >>719186169 >>719186550 >>719187269 >>719187463 >>719188043 >>719189404 >>719189452
I'm gonna go ahead and ass blast a lot of midwits by saying this; Ragnarok's presentation is cool. Historical characters speaking modern American is interesting and has its own appeal. Some of the best Shakespearean film adaptations I've watched have post-modern stages and aesthetics. Others aren't even in English or in the western world (Throne of Blood and Ran). Ragnarok's Odin was also cool as fuck.

I'll also add that the above isn't a hot take or a unique opinion at all, it's in everyone's throat but never on their tongue, because most people want to fit in and keep their real opinions to themselves.
Anonymous No.719178339 >>719178531
>>719178185
Was this pic intentional.
Anonymous No.719178364 >>719179592
everybody's always surprised when pantheons are depicted as shitheads
Anonymous No.719178412
>>719178185
Percy Jackson mogs nu-GOW easily.
Anonymous No.719178432
>my ex
Anonymous No.719178448
also a jew
Anonymous No.719178470 >>719178553
>STILL seething about gow
Anonymous No.719178531 >>719178843
>>719178339
Yes, what about it? Julie Taymor's Titus (1999) was ABSOLVTE CINEMA.
Anonymous No.719178538
AUUUEGH
Anonymous No.719178539 >>719178634 >>719184738
The real Odin sucked the dicks of dead men who had been hanged so their semen could regenerate his mana.

LARPing Pagans will never tell you this fact.
Anonymous No.719178553
>>719178470
Gears Of War? More like Tears Of War
Anonymous No.719178586
>looks like a Sopranos character
>acts like Hades from Disney
>sounds like a slimy kike
The fuck were they going for here?
Anonymous No.719178596
In terms of Abuse Zeus>>>Odin. I mean Zeus condemned Kratos mom to literal hell just because their affair embarrassed him. Oh and he also turned her into a hell beast forcing Kratos to kill her
Anonymous No.719178634
>>719178539
Interesting… interesting.
Now show me a source for this claim that isn’t the ravings of a gay jew
Anonymous No.719178723 >>719179046
Why didn't Kratos simply tell Zeus he can chose to be a better man? Was he stupid?
Anonymous No.719178837
>>719178185
holy fpbp
Anonymous No.719178843
>>719178531
Is that fucking peewee herman
Anonymous No.719178869
>Odin
>good
lmao
Anonymous No.719178923
>>719178185
If an adaptation fails to surpass the quality of the source material or at least maintain parity with it, it’s bad. That’s literally all there is to it.
In a competition between the poetic musings of a bunch of drunken Viking sailors from 1,000+ years ago and bullion dollar entertainment products produced by elite writers and studios, the former in this case wins, and that’s beyond embarrassing for the latter
Anonymous No.719178947
>>719177840 (OP)
Estrogenic character
Anonymous No.719178954
i thought this odin was weak but him disguising as folk and using birds as spies caught me off guard
Anonymous No.719178958
Muh Viking Norse Aryan heritage dough......
Anonymous No.719178974 >>719179114 >>719185061 >>719185513
>>719177840 (OP)
>depicting the norse god of wisdom and insight and basically norse jesus as a complete faggot
They really weren't subtle at all with how much they hate men.
Even japanese shit have more respect for other cultures.
Anonymous No.719179031
ODIIIIIIIIN
GIVE ME BACK MY WIFE'S SOOOOON
Anonymous No.719179045 >>719179094 >>719188919
>>719178185
no, you're wrong about pretty much everything in this post
and it's weird for you to call others midwits when it's obvious your iq is in the 110 range or so
recognize your place instead of being weird
Anonymous No.719179046
>>719178723
>Why didn't Kratos simply tell Zeus he can chose to be a better man?
Because Zeus would have answered he's a GOD not a man.
Anonymous No.719179094 >>719189593
>>719179045
>muh autism score quotient
Yep, you're a midwit.
Anonymous No.719179114
>>719178974
>norse jesus
jotunn in denial, more than a few of them are
Anonymous No.719179348 >>719179443
>>719178185
>I'll also add that the above isn't a hot take or a unique opinion at all, it's in everyone's throat but never on their tongue, because most people want to fit in and keep their real opinions to themselves.
>um...actually everyone agrees with me eventhough no one says it!
peak schizo
Anonymous No.719179350
>>719178185
>Actually engaging in GOW discussion
Where do you think we are?
Anonymous No.719179443 >>719179641
>>719179348
if you actually think that isn't true then you're engaging if a massive self-own for most 4channerite ideologues.
Anonymous No.719179462 >>719182391
Kratosbros... Our better response?
Anonymous No.719179526
>>719178185
None of that makes it a good God of War games, chug drain cleaner or something.
Anonymous No.719179571
>>719178185
>Historical characters speaking modern American is interesting and has its own appeal.
the appeal is that you don't have to worry about your audience not understanding what they say.
thats the only reason for it.
its not about interest lmao.
Anonymous No.719179585
>>719178185
>Historical characters speaking modern American is interesting and has its own appeal
Theres no appeal to it retard because it literally ruins the immersion. Oh yeah its real cool that the norse god that is 8000 years old carries himself like a 45 year old middle aged dad talking about ex wives. Funnily enough this isnt actually intentional, there was no behind the scenes though process that making them talk like Americans would be cool, no, thats just the writing being poor and dogshit.
>Ragnarok's Odin was also cool as fuck
He is objectively a terrible interpretation and was maybe the worst executed character of the game. Odin is supposed to be this ultra genius mastermind king who wins over everybody with his massive fucking galaxy brain. In the game, he shows up in Kratos's house with his enforcer son, then monologues and runs around offering him a deal, that he would kill Freya (who Kratos likes), in return, all Kratos has to do is let him be. Then when Kratos refuses, Odin sends his lapdog to maul, so that he has alone time with Atreus so that he can manipulate him. None of this is intimidating or smart in any way, he doesn't come off as a library brain mastermind, instead he just comes of as a slimy scheming little jew who throws a tantrum when things dont go his way.
Anonymous No.719179592 >>719185219
>>719178364
It's justified with the Greeks because that's being accurate to the myths. With the Norse pantheon it's going against them.
Anonymous No.719179641
>>719179443
learn english if you wanna get your point across, ESL.
No idea what you're talking about.
Anonymous No.719180112
>>719178185
>you know the bombastic presentation that made the series unique?
>the norse gods lived in shitty huts, just like the vikings that worshiped them
>and the wisest god, master of disguise, who sacrificed himself for wisdom is just an old retard until the end
>this a good thing, actually
Fuck off
Anonymous No.719180343 >>719180569 >>719187107
>id rather be a wolf of odin than a lamb of god~ sòy guzzling faggots mad a mommy and daddy
Yeah if it werent for Christians the viking history wouldve been lost to time cause real vikings were drunkin drug addicted faggots that didnt bother to keep their shit together
Anonymous No.719180380 >>719180982 >>719181262
>>719177840 (OP)
>So, um, what if Odin was a gaslighting narcissist?
>You mean just like he was in norse mythology?
>Yeah
FTFY
Anonymous No.719180569 >>719184165
>>719180343
>be pagan German
>preserve ancient stories as part of your oral tradition for thousands of years
>christianity emerges
>oral tradition instantly dies
>modern LARPing e-christians expect us to thank the Catholic Church because patriotic Christian icelanders from 1,000 years ago decided to write some of their people’s oral tradition down before it died for good
nah, I’m good actually
Anonymous No.719180980
>>719178185
I'm amazed at how someone can spew such a terrible opinion while not only simultaneously sniffing his own farts, while also defending them.
Anonymous No.719180982 >>719184153
>>719180380
How can a martyr be a narcissist
Anonymous No.719181262 >>719184153
>>719180380
That wasn’t all he did.
Anonymous No.719182391
>>719179462
my response? be a better man, of course
Anonymous No.719182401 >>719187418
BOY! Let's go upstairs boy, your mother needs the room for her yoga lesson!
Anonymous No.719182451 >>719186487
>>719178185
literally no one likes how the norse gods are portrayed, good bait
Anonymous No.719182548 >>719182921
I liked this Odin, but he needed to also be able to swap to a threatening presence and the end of the game just shatters that. The whole smooth talking shit worked and also felt like a fresh take on the character, should he have just sat there looking menacingly and disappear randomly in the background.
Anonymous No.719182921 >>719186589 >>719192641
>>719182548
It was pathetic. Saw the Ragnarok's final fight then watched the very first boss of GoW3 and got fucking whiplash
Anonymous No.719183579
>>719177840 (OP)
There is a heavy disconnect in the writing and presentation. Odin never actually does anything bad in the story. All his bad deeds are told to you. Yes he killed Grok but it was retaliation for stealing his mask which the game gave ZERO explanation on why the cast came up with that idea. He was even going to let Heimdall’s murder go.

It felt like the writers were setting up all the stories about Odin to be a lie before some faggot with daddy issues joined the team and complained that would be too triggering for Xer.
Anonymous No.719184092
>>719177840 (OP)
this make no sense because in the myth he is a master of homosexual magic
Anonymous No.719184153 >>719184512 >>719184790
>>719180982
>>719181262
>”Hey, giant! Give me your mead of wisdom!”
>”Fuck off! It’s mine”
>turns into a seagull and drinks all the mead. Regurgitates half of it so the asgardians can drink it. Shits the other half back on the giant
Incredibly based as fuck. But still a massive narcissist
Anonymous No.719184165
>>719180569
The oral traditions started disappearing when the Germans started fighting Romans 24/7 as if it was a good idea. That's also the time where they start adopting lots of Latin letters, and start paving the way for the HRE. Christianity wasn't even a real threat yet, since paganism was favoured everywhere. You fucking protestant.
Anonymous No.719184245
>>719178185
>Ragnarok's presentation is cool
Yeah if you're a soifag who's really into capeshit and ironic humour
Anonymous No.719184506
>Don't forget about me, All-Fucker!
>What did you just call me!?
Absolutely Whedon-tier. Embarassing.
Anonymous No.719184512 >>719184964 >>719185158
>>719184153
In Skaldskaparmal, Odin works a field for a season in exchange for the mead, and the giants tell him to eat shit anyway, so he just fucking steals it (and also fucks the owner’s daughter) because he’s Odin and he can. Giants in any event are roughly analogous to demons, so anything bad done to them is acceptable.
That’s not really narcissism, that’s just using any means necessary to defeat your cosmic rivals (who want to blow up the entire universe and kill everyone inside of it)
Anonymous No.719184738 >>719185481
>>719178539
Interesting fanfic, Rabbi
Anonymous No.719184790 >>719185102
>>719184153
How does that contradict what I said? Also how does stealing from a giant make him a narcissist?
Anonymous No.719184929
>>719177840 (OP)
>>719178185
Anonymous No.719184932
>So, um, what if Odin was a gaslighting narcissist?
He literally was?? Are you mentally disturbed? This is not a good troll.
Anonymous No.719184964 >>719185425
>>719184512
Jotunn aren't really like demons but pretty sure they map onto "Titans" fairly cleanly (except for being a lower/higher (depending on point of view) order of god (I think the Vanir sort of take that role but not quite) they take the role of vaguely "natural forces" that are often shitheads but not always
Anonymous No.719185061 >>719185723
>>719178974
> norse jesus
That's Baldr??
OK, we should start killing USAnian subhumans.
Anonymous No.719185102
>>719184790
Umm sweaty everyone is a gaslighting narcissist because I learned those words on reddit or twitter or some gay women's website (and ironically I will (try to) gaslight everyone into thinking that calling out my own narcissistic tendencies is emotional abuse or something)
Anonymous No.719185158
>>719184512
They’re not demons, most aren’t inherently evil of malevolent. They’re a mix between powerful figures and forces of nature. But Loki and his band of jocklecocks are pretty bad.
Anonymous No.719185219
>>719179592
Norse pantheon has stuff to work with still, especially anything related to the Jotunns and the gods having some Jotunns or descendants thereof in their number. It's easier thematically to go with them being bastards given their need to make deals or forge and find equipment to accrue power.
Anonymous No.719185425 >>719185651 >>719186090 >>719186225 >>719186612
>>719184964
People always chafe when you compare Jotnar to demons, but if you actually read the poetic sources, most Jotnar are depicted as disgusting, mutated abominations (Tyr’s paternal grandmother is said to have 9,000 heads, and many of Tyr’s father’s men are described as having 2 heads) which is obviously a very significant attribute considering that the Norse believed strongly in physiognomy. But then you have poems like Voluspa and Vafthruthnismal that just outright say that Jotnar are inherently evil.
I think people get uncomfortable about the comparison because it probably seems like I’m trying to superimpose Christianity over paganism, and there are indeed many instances where paganism and Christianity are completely at odds, but I don’t think this is one of them.
Anonymous No.719185481 >>719185925
>>719184738
It literally is, the (((guy))) that came up with it was found to have made it up.
Anonymous No.719185513
>>719178974
GoW is written from Loki’s/Atreus’ perspective and he really hated the gods
Anonymous No.719185651 >>719185757 >>719185956
>>719185425
I think it’s more that there are giants that the Aesir are able to just be chill with like Aegir. Also Thor’s mother is a giant so having them all be these malevolent and ugly beings feels a bit odd.
Anonymous No.719185723 >>719186526
>>719185061
All of Baldr’s resemblances to Jesus are superficial or are otherwise based on bad misunderstandings of Voluspa. Odin on the other hand martyred himself via hanging and being impaled with a spear for the sake of conquering death. This is of course also a superficial similarity to Jesus but it’s a lot more superficially similar than the myth of Baldr.
Anonymous No.719185757 >>719185884
>>719185651
Like any mythology it really depends on the storyteller
Anonymous No.719185884 >>719186278
>>719185757
But what I just said are fixed aspects. Aegir isn’t said to be anything but a giant and the same goes for Thor’s mother.
Anonymous No.719185925
>>719185481
As usual, every accusation is an admission
Anonymous No.719185956
>>719185651
The women are the big exception. They’re sometimes beautiful and sometimes also not evil. Like Gunnloth. But you’d be hard pressed to find a male Jotunn character who is a good guy. Vafthruthnir is probably the closest, but even he says at one point that his whole race is literally made out of poison, which causes them to be naturally wicked.
Anonymous No.719186090 >>719186261 >>719186378
>>719185425
>9000 heads
That pretty much maps onto those other niggers that aren't quite Titans but in the same "order" as them cosmogonically (actually I think they may be just "Gigantes")
Anonymous No.719186169
>>719178185
Anyone who starts his post going "if you disagree with the opinion I'm gonna say you're dumb" likely isn't as smart as he think he is.
Anonymous No.719186190
>>719177840 (OP)
AAAAUUUGGHHH!
Anonymous No.719186225
>>719185425
I actually forgot about the "two heads" thing - and that maps over to the Anglo-Saxon cognate Etinns and is probably where the whole two headed ogre thing you see in videogames sometimes "comes" from
Anonymous No.719186259
I actually despise Ragnarok because of how they had Thor die unceremoniously to Odin.
Anonymous No.719186261 >>719186780
>>719186090
You mean the Hecatonchires
Anonymous No.719186278 >>719186598
>>719185884
No, Aegir is evil too. In the poem Hymiskvitha, he tries to get Thor and Tyr killed by sending them to retrieve a kettle from Hymir (Tyr’s evil Jotunn father). The story ends with Thor and Tyr getting the kettle, and then Hymir and all of his multi-headed soldiers ambushing them and trying to kill them. Thor of course slaughters them all with ease.
Anonymous No.719186378
>>719186090
Actually I suppose fair enough if you want to call them "demons" because those "1000 handed/headed" freaks in Greek myth are imprisoned in the deepest pit of Tartarus (AFAIR) and will be released at some point to destroy shit
Anonymous No.719186487
>>719182451
Norse gods are lame and gay which is why the chad Jew God completely decimated them and made white people slaves to Jews

Imagine still simping for some faggot who got beat by a dead Jew larping as a lower case t lmaooo

One Jew and a letter of the alphabet single handily cucked whites out of their complete culture of God's and replaced it with gay songs and kneeling to be filled with "the Lord" ahahaha

Fishers of men indeed
Anonymous No.719186526
>>719185723
It's all just Dionysus.
Anonymous No.719186550
>>719178185
Is this satire?
Anonymous No.719186589
>>719182921
I mean can you really blame them? Norse gods are so lame and gay they got ditched for a skinny Jew taped to a T

This letter "t" is literally more interesting than Norse gods. Damn Jews are cool as fuck
Anonymous No.719186598 >>719186797
>>719186278
Is it really getting them killed if he knows that nothing is going to happen to them? I mean at what point would he think that some random mooks will kill Thor and Tyr? Also that sounds more like Tyr’s father’s fault than Aegir.
Anonymous No.719186612
>>719185425
It’s very easy to forget that these stories were made by drunk vikings
Anonymous No.719186625 >>719186772
>>719177840 (OP)
This game was so damn bland I don't even remember much about it. Like Thor was fat and Son was a teenage asshole
Anonymous No.719186772
>>719186625
White God is like your average white family, makes sense. Theres a reason you all jumped ship to the Jew Chad religion

With Jew Gods you win
Anonymous No.719186780 >>719186969
>>719186261
Yeah that's the one, aren't they a subclass of "gigantes" (or something like that - which is also a literal linguistic cognate to jotun ("giant") even though at least in Greek myth it doesn't actually imply "giant" in the way we think of it)

Actually I double checked it - it seems they're a separate class in the same order that are often erroneously conflated even by "later" Greeks but in earlier myth were distinct and not quite directly related.

I also confused the "buried in Tartarus" angle with Typhon, but again that's something it seems even the Greeks sometimes did
Anonymous No.719186797 >>719187191
>>719186598
He was specifically trying to get Thor killed. His plan sucked ass because he’s an idiot, but the intention was still there nonetheless
>3. The word-wielder toil | for the giant worked,
>And so revenge | on the gods he sought;
>He bade Sif's mate | the kettle bring:
>"Therein for ye all | much ale shall I brew."
Anonymous No.719186969 >>719189824
>>719186780
They’re a bit odd. They were made along with the titans but since Uranus thought they were too fucked up looking sealed them away.
Anonymous No.719187107
>>719180343
>Yeah if it werent for Christians the viking history wouldve been lost to time
The Eddas were first preserved by an Arab, actually
Anonymous No.719187191
>>719186797
Why are they always so retarded?
Anonymous No.719187269
>>719178185
nigga that's nuts!
Anonymous No.719187275
>>719177840 (OP)
I thought presenting the Aesir gods as a sort of mafia family was pretty inspired. It was by far the most entertaining part of the otherwise disjointed story to me.
But the boss fights against Thor and Odin definitely should've been much better
Anonymous No.719187418
>>719182401
So he's saying his son named the character?
Anonymous No.719187463 >>719187575
>>719178185
>Some of the best Shakespearean film adaptations I've watched have post-modern stages and aesthetics. Others aren't even in English or in the western world (Throne of Blood and Ran). Ragnarok's Odin was also cool as fuck.
That's not what Ragnarok is doing though, they are half assing it, it's neither here no there, they don't commit to the theme. With half-measures, you get the worst of both worlds. Not to mention, it shits on the first game where characters, for the most part, didn't speak like they came from contemporary TV or capeshit.
Anonymous No.719187575
>>719187463
No half measures
Anonymous No.719187908
>>719177840 (OP)
Reminder that new games are in fact, made to be gay and boring on purpose because nudevs are taught to hate tradition, hate themselves, and hate (You).
Anonymous No.719188043
>>719178185
>I'm gonna go ahead and ass blast a lot of midwits by saying this; Ragnarok's presentation is cool. Historical characters speaking modern American is interesting and has its own appeal. Some of the best Shakespearean film adaptations I've watched have post-modern stages and aesthetics. Others aren't even in English or in the western world (Throne of Blood and Ran). Ragnarok's Odin was also cool as fuck.
>
>I'll also add that the above isn't a hot take or a unique opinion at all, it's in everyone's throat but never on their tongue, because most people want to fit in and keep their real opinions to themselves.
Anonymous No.719188307
>>719177840 (OP)
haven't played gow but Odin is a real asshole that fucks everything up with his stupid chess game.
Anonymous No.719188692
>>719177840 (OP)
It's an interesting take. It seems like most people just wanted Odin to be a Norse Zeus instead of the pragmatic manipulator he was in actual mythology
Anonymous No.719188919
>>719179045
>Erm, your IQ is clearly only 110.
He said, with presumably only 98 or less IQ himself.
Anonymous No.719189240
Shill thread
Anonymous No.719189404
>>719178185
>have post-modern stages and aesthetics
Are you actually presenting this as a good thing? Fucking neck yourself.
Anonymous No.719189452
>>719178185
>Historical characters speaking modern American is interesting and has its own appeal.
In measured doses, yes. What you and the rest of the entertainment industry evidently do not understand is subversion is only pleasurable when what it is subverting is the standard, and especially if it is stale. An industry cannot survive on irreverence for long, in order for its juxtaposition to mean anything it cannot be the prevailing framework for well over a decade. All that is to say, Ragnarok's presentation was absolutely predictable and fucking annoying, its attempts at deconstruction were more than anything groan-inducing. Ironically, only midwits would find it to have been deep in any way whatsoever.
Anonymous No.719189593
>>719179094
The only reason you consider it autistic to have a higher IQ is because you are stupid and have a low IQ.
Anonymous No.719189594 >>719189683
>>719177840 (OP)
As a film critic once said, liberals don't know how to write stories because they don't understand concepts such as spirituality and transcendentalism. They can only understand their shitty little world where everyone is taking medication for depression or other mental problems, real or imagined.
Anonymous No.719189683 >>719190269
>>719189594
What the fuck are you blathering about, you abject subhuman? Are you having an actual mental breakdown?
Anonymous No.719189824
>>719186969
Somewhat of a tangent looking up the Giants/Hecatonchires lead down the wiki rabbit hole and I found this gem
>Orchitis can also be seen during active mumps particularly in adolescent boys and girls.
Anonymous No.719190090
This game could have been more. It is permanently an unliving joke of itself. All they had to do was make 3 games instead of making 1 decent game and 1 game that was stitched together from 2 games.
Anonymous No.719190203
>>719177840 (OP)
Anonymous No.719190269
>>719189683
The Odin of GOW looks like an underpaid actor wearing cheap clothes because liberal artists don't understand bigger concepts, so they are unable to create an idealized vision of anything. They can't get past the most basic level of human perception because they are materialists who can only see what is right in front of their eyes. The "complex" themes they deal with are always some character flaws or mental problems, because that's what they deal with on a daily basis in liberal circles, which are full of mentally ill people.
Nothing they create seems grand, transcendental, or inspiring. It's all poor. The gods are men in costumes. The heroes are submissive cuckolds. The liberal world is a world of mental and spiritual poverty. And since our elite are liberal, our art can only reflect their poverty.
Anonymous No.719190350
>>719177840 (OP)
All god of war games are glorified marvel onions games for millenial redditors.
Anonymous No.719192641
>>719182921
To be fair, Poseidon and the beginning of GOW3 is the peak of that game. Hades, Hermes, Heraclues, and even Zeus are not as cool as that build up and visual spectacle
Anonymous No.719192714 >>719193271
>>719177840 (OP)
Does any media portray Odin good?
Anonymous No.719193271
>>719192714
'Portray good' as in a morally righteous character? Quite a number. 'Portray good' as in faithfully adapt the character? None I'm aware of.