Thread 719207546

>next final fantasy xiv expansion will release in august 2027
it's fucking over

It's not even open world yet

Proof?

>>719207546 (OP)
I really think there's a chance if 8.0 is planned for 2027 that XIV could drop to below Stormblood sub numbers. If so the shareholders might try to force Yoshi P out. Not sure if that would be a good thing or bad thing for the game desu.

>>719207546 (OP)
Sure but we're getting great content in the meantime.

Post modbeasts or loli cats

>>719208138
latest announcement

Redpill me on the state of XIV right now. I know the story was divisive and people hated Wuk Lamat. But surely that isn't the only thing that made people doesn't want to renew their sub. I heard from some players that post 7.0, the content from the updates is good. If it's true, then why is the sub count still hasn't bounced back. Also, there's barely any talk about XIV/Dawntrail by the usual "MMO enthusiast" on Youtube. Post SB and EW the post release hype was a lot longer. Now the tone that I get from Dawntrail and post release, is a lot downer/doomshit.

>>719209071
A lot of people were subbed for modding...

>>719209154
Modding? For fashion stuff?

>>719209071
The raids and dungeons are good, but that's it.
>shitty story
>least content of any expac
>casual content is just shitty levees quests in a moonbase skin
>you can buy all the rewards on the marketboard anyway lol
>grindzone for weapons is a long boring slog
>you can buy all the rewards on the marketboard anyway lol
>grindzone raid was implemented the most retarded way imaginable, what were they thinking
>Class design continually designed for ultimate raiders aka 1~% of the playerbase

>>719209232
They basically turn FF14 into Second Life with EVERYTHING that implies.

>>719209508
>>Class design continually designed for ultimate raiders aka 1~% of the playerbase
You keep saying this but no actual raider love doing 1-2-3 for 10+minutes

>>719209508
Nothing is good about ddr memory recital raiding on rails.

>>719209071
for me personally i just got sick and tired of them putting cool shit in the cash shop instead of as actual rewards to work for (shadowkeeper mount not being the reward for blu mage eden raids was the last straw) as well as the subpar story
there was an insane drought for casuals between 7.0 and 7.2 which made shit dip in general
it's not like there wasn't content at all, but not shit that's particularly fun with the average mouthbreathers in pf
i considered resubbing for occult crescent but after finding out the rewards were abysmal i didn't bother
we'll see if the rest of the patches make 8.0 interesting, or if they rework their reward systems, but i don't think i'll come back

>>719209508
That does sound like the game designers has ran out of ideas on what to put in the game, and just put stop gaps. Also heard the farming island that people thought it'll be at least like HM, turned out to be pretty basic and an overall disappointment. I honestly think they've basically did milk the most out of the game and it's old ass engine. I think FF needs a new, modern MMO and should start to slowly phase out XIV.

>>719209908
Isn't it the ethos of the team that they didn't want the game to be super grindy? I can actually understand that, but then to put those reward in the cash shop, just seemed hypocritical and well, greedy.

>>719209908
>i considered resubbing for occult crescent but after finding out the rewards were abysmal i didn't bother
The FFV gear is kino but I don't blame you.

>>719209794
That's what they continually cite as the reason for their changes.

>>719209794
>>719209508
dark knight is probably the best example of this. The class is really good in statics and world first runs because it is really good defensively, but its fucking boring as shit to play. You have this crazy opener then LITERALLY DO NOTHING BUT 1-2-3 FOR 2 MINUTES. Its hilariously bad design. All the other tanks have been moved to 1 minute rotations and feel way better to play. Dark Knight is probably the class most in need of a full rework at the moment, despite it being quite good for super endgame play on paper.

Beastmaster will keep people occupied for 2 years. Trust the plan.

I'm honestly glad XIV is dead. I'm free. I don't have to give a shit anymore. Yoshit-Piss cured my XIV addiction. Mod beasts should all fucking die.

>>719210034
>Isn't it the ethos of the team that they didn't want the game to be super grindy?

Could have fooled me after they put in a 30+ hour grind for access to the artifact weapons. Who the fuck thinks this is fun or good?

>>719209794
They don't enjoy it, but they scream for it anyway. Which is why they always turn around and blame casuals for it. AST card RNG? BUT MY PARSE ISN'T GUARANTEED CHAJNGE IT CHANGE IT CHANGE IT NOW!!!!

herrroooooo gaijiiiiiiiin

>>719210034
there's a difference between grinding for a reward to pad out gametime and doing something at least marginally challenging for an award you can't get anywhere else
ultimates, savages, and extremes fall under the latter, but without a group you WILL have to deal with mouthbreathers which pushes it closer to the former than it should be
i don't have a problem with the cash shop's existence, but i do have a problem with them siphoning out the carrots on sticks i want to work towards so i can justify playing that content
like, criterion dungeons are a really cool concept that lose all their luster once you realize you only really need to go through it a bit to get all that it has to offer (or just buy the cool shit off the marketplace instead of playing it)

>>719210161
it makes me so fucking mad, i was really hyped for it in 7.0 but the wait time for it killed me

>>719210172
Nope. Not even once...
It was always to completely homogenize the damage difference between idiots and people actually trying

>>719207546 (OP)
Why did he kill the game?

>>719207546 (OP)
>Game and devs get rightfully criticized
>Goes on interviews crying about "bullying"
>Does nothing and ignores the playerbase again
The YoshiP cycle.

>>719208138
Last fanfest is November '26, so the 8.0 should come out late Spring early Summer 27. Same time table as always.
>>719209071
It's just WoWfugees parroting the opinions of doomer streamers, if you play the game you'll have no problems finding people to do relevant content.

>>719209794
they say they don't want it, but then piss and moan if one class is easier to play but has better dps
you can't have wildly different playstyles AND have shit be completely balanced across the board, and raiders will pick balance over something interesting any day of the week

Mobile will mog it hard but mobile will get mogged hard by actually good mobile games coming out.

>>719210941
I've always said harder to play jobs should be better, it used to be like that... Until pld and whm mains started crying no one wanted them in their mid statics

>>719211098
Retarded mid players copying what the top-level players do without understanding WHY they do it is a problem in every fucking game lately

>>719207546 (OP)
I need to know what happened to 14 during DT's development to now

wow will have had 3 expansions in the same time as DT lmao

>>719211389
Nepo hire + director having attention split between multiple projects = bad game. Simply as.

They will make it good again right guys?

>>719211774
>weeeeeeeeeellll....
>...
>eto........

>>719211774
8.0 WILL make or break it, but apparently the recent patch wasn't terrible plotwise
if they go whole hog into ascians for the foreseeable future there might be hope, as sad as it is to say
if dawntrail was the best they had for non-ascian plotlines they better suckle on emet's tits more

>>719209071
the adventuring foray bounced a lot of people away. its hyperoptimized and some people claim that its lost it soul. main issues i have with it are:

>Forked Tower issues of course
>there's literally no reason to play anything but warrior

cosmic exploration is also cute but isn't for a lot of people. i had fun cracking the A ranks but i didn't feel like doing it on more than 1 gatherer and crafter

Is there going to be a patch 7.6 since there's a whole year of nothing

>>719212159
The game has a lot more issues then just story.

>>719212328
Why are doomposters so fucking dumb man

new gaki dropped

>>719212159
Weren't we done with the Ssians?
I thought 7.0 was supposed to set up a new story but looking back I don't really see what exactly was set up..

>>719212328
We can only hope.
>>719212480
7.5 is due around May 2026, and based on the fanfest dates the expansion won't be until around May 2027. Funny how the mean old grumpy doomposter seems to understand the game a lot better than you, a typical faggot white knight who doesn't even play it or have anything of value to contribute to discussion.

>>719209508
So basically the same old shit that its always been. Good thing i dropped this boring steaming pile of shit in shadowbringers lmao

>>719212328
Lmao no. They'll just cut up 7.5 into multiple sections.

So why does everyone hate dawntrail?

When you nut but she still sucking

>>719212569
the missing members of the convocation are one of the few plot threads still active from pre-DT. and its the only one of the few that wouldn't require reviving a dead character or pulling them off a bus

since we have precedence in fandaniel not being too enthused with his job of causing rejoinings there's no reason the missing ones couldn't be pursuing their own goals, evil or not.

god help us if there are signs of the dead timeline graha originates from because that opens up EVERYONE that died after stormblood to come back, including zodiark and hydaelyn

>>719212498
>loli cat chest!
>remember it's just a shrunken male hyur body

>>719212646
>7.5 is due around May 2026
Exactly. What are they going to do.
>>719212729
Wait each month for a plot point lets go.

>>719212780
>an unbelievably bad story, just incompetent writing from top to bottom, plotholes, an obnoxious poochie main character, etc.
>only content for the entire first year of the expansion was savage level stuff with no longevity
>the first bit of more casual, grindy content we got put all the actual casuals off because the capstone raid is extreme level
>crafter/gatherer content is savage levequests, very few people are into crafter/gatherer shit anyway

>>719212818
They really need to change them to a shrunken female hyur body, they just look insanely lanky and weird

>>719209931
>FF11
>11+3 = 14
>FF14
>14+3 = 17
FF17 Online confirmed

>>719212780
Awful story with a new awful character
Jobs are all dumbed down
They cater mainly to hardcore players

>>719212780
>So why does everyone hate dawntrail?
Not enough Yshtola

>get home from work at the butthole factory
>"xi" in catalog's search field
>8bitdo controller thread
>Kirby lore thread
>Barry wannabe with a concernedyoshida.jpg thread
ahh.... now this is the life

Do they really need so many fanfests?

At this point they should just do a longer live letter instead of a convention

>>719212887
>very few people are into crafter/gatherer shit anyway
I once heard XIV's crafter/gatherer system described as a pyramid scheme.

>>719213030
conventions are fun though

>>719213030
Money
>>719213067
It is

>>719213067
because the best way to make money as a crafter is to sell crafting gear, yes

>already feels like it's the end of the expansion drought
>there's 2 years left
OH MY FUCKING GOD WHAT IS THIS CHINK GOOK NIGGER DOING DID HE COMPLETELY FUCKING GIVE UP ON THIS GAME

>>719213401
>DID HE COMPLETELY FUCKING GIVE UP ON THIS GAME
Seems like it. Yoship wants OUT.

>>719208395
It can't get much worse. The content is getting less and less every patch. Patches get less and less frequent. During this time they nickel and dime the playerbase with cosmetics and mounts that could have been actual ingame rewards to stem the tide.

Soken when the fuck are you releasing the next album on spotify? I want to listen to fucking Scream already.

>>719213401
lmao no refunds

>>719207546 (OP)
>HW JUN 2015
>SB JUN 2017
>SHB JUL 2019
>EW DEC 2021
>DT JUL 2024
>7.1 NOV 2024 (4 months)
>7.2 MAR 2025 (4 months)
>7.3 AUG 2025 (5 months)
>7.4 JAN 2026 (if 5 months again)
>7.5 JUN 2026 (if 5 months again)
>8.0 NOV 2026 (if 5 months again)
If they go back to 4 months we'll get new xpac sooner, but I doubt it

>>719209071
Player of some years here.
It's because it's so formulaic. YES, the story will probably pick up in the next expac. YES it has been very good before. YES there are some fantastic parts like Eureka and Bozja. But it's the same content every time with a different coat of paint, so it feels like slop.
Every SINGLE EXPANSION is predictable.
>Dungeon (with 2 packs, boss, 2 packs, boss, etc)
>Trial
>Dungeon
>Dungeon
>Trial
>Dungeon
>Dungeon
>Trial
>4-levels of raid per tier
>3 alliance raids
>x1 Field Operation (if you're lucky)
>x1 Deep Dungeon
>x1 Housing area which is exactly the same as all the other housing areas
>x1 Ultimate (if you're lucky (or unlucky if you're a sane person who doesn't want to spend months to beat a single shitty non-canon encounter))
>x1 Totally random new experiment that is dropped after the current patch cycle (variable dungeon, island sanctuary)
>x1 God-awful crafting slog zone with FOMO leaderboards
>x1 PvP which is usually just a previous PvP mode they already removed, they just "spruced it up" by ruining it
Want a tl;dr? Me, too.
Basically, if you've played any of the expansions, you've played them all. They're all the same with very minor and insignificant variations. The only difference between clearing a SB Ultimate and an EW Ultimate is that one is a bit newer and higher level.
The only "true" reward in the game for any and all content is mounts; the only thing that you personally collect, can show off and is halfway functional (minions don't really do anything and are too small to see) yet you can only use one at a time and they're still all the same thing (same speed, same abilties)
So what's the point if I've done it all 4 times already? The new Field Operation doesn't have anything Eureka and Bozja didn't except the mounts look different. Even the fucking mobs are the same as enemies I've fought before.
People don't like remixes of the same album over and over again, they want new material.

>>719213708
Depends on if they curveball fanfest to expac launch dates back to SB and ShB too, Yoshida did say "whirlwind updates" in that celebration video

>>719213708
Oh the wait for DT was also 3 years? Huh. I doubt it too. Everything about DT is cursed.

>>719213921
if he came out and said that we would have faster patch cadences i'd be on his team again

>>719214002
Not faster patch cadences, faster turnaround time from JP fanfest to expac launch

>>719213401
Yes he clearly lost his passion for it

>>719213921
I have played XIV long enough to know that YoshiP lies as much as he breathes.

>>719213921
>>719213973
I don't get the doom and gloom then, it's all quite predictable.
They are probably teasing 8.0 in Cali. Then teasing a bit more in Berlin, probably a longer trailer. And then full trailer release in Tokyo

>>719214072
Eh people will believe whatever they want to and disbelieve whatever they don't regardless of what he says.

>>719213921
Anon, YoshiP has absolutely no fucking clue what is going on with the game.

>>719214132
But I, an anonymous poster, know much better than the game's producer

>>719214121
Yeah thats how they do the fanfest. Everyone wants out of Dawntrail if you can't tell.

>>719214037
there's no reason for patch cadence to be 4.5 months (in practice 5). the ONLY things that have improved from dawntrail are:

>dungeon bosses and normal mode fights being more engaging
>cutscene quality, especially in cinematography and animations

4 months on the dot MAX for a .2 or .4, 3 months for .1, 3 and 5

>>719214121
>8.0
if it's going to take that long for them to release it. then i have no doubt that they are prob working on some feature that will cause a rework in design for a old system.

my money is on the glamour dresser.

>>719214192

probably

>>719214242
4.5-5 months with staccato regularity is great for an MMORPG's track record, you do realize

>>719214229
We are already out lol. Makes me a bit sad since we won't get more Speen either.
This is the Shadowhunter part of the expansion. Old loose ends are closed, New ones are appearing.

>>719214242
>cutscene quality
>characters still spin 180º like a tank to turn around

>>719214285
i do. i've experienced ffxi and wow's wonky and sparse updates. xiv's is relatively good in that respect. but the patches are too anemic for them to need 4.5 months, especially when 1/3 of the patch is delayed by 2 months

>>719214192
If YoshiP actually played /understood the game there's no way he'd let his pet Job end up the way it has. Dawntrail took out Transpose for BLM on launch so anyone that was in low level content could not do the main mechanic of swapping elements.

>>719214057
What pisses me off is him just not stepping down then and letting someone with more than a shred of passion left lead the project.
The fact that this man greenlit Dawntrail is pretty stark evidence that either he did not look at the MSQ script and roadmap and if he did he gave no fucks about it all being absolute garbage.

>We're adding a month to the patch cycles to increase development.
>proceed to release the same exact content as always
>in fact, even less(no Ultimate in 7.3)

>>719214404
BLM isn't the only job that's ever had something stupid happen to it, 'member WAR in 4.0 with Shake It Off and Inner Release

>>719214192
I remember when everyone not in Japan was telling Yoshi-P that MCH needed to have a charge system for hypercharge similar to what they were doing for DRK. This was because MCH's hypercharge was dependent on ping and anyone not in Japan lost dps. Then he responded with "Works on my machine." and didn't give hypercharge the system until much much later.

>>719214472
YoshiP also doesn't main WAR.

>>719213708
>8.0 NOV 2026 (if 5 months again)
Anon...the JP Fanfest in November 2026

>>719212569
We still have some Sundered Ascians, while also knowing they might be able to "bring" back any of the dead or unavailable sundered ones like Nabriales or Logriff.
Genuine bullshit, Pandaemonium was meant to close the book on them because the only interesting ones were the Unsundered, and that series expands on Elidibus while also making Lahabrea somewhat of a good character. There's NOWHERE left to go with the Sundered. Anything convocation related that matters is Azem, but they seem pretty autistic about telling us what Azem was actually doing in the period between us going to unsundered etheris and the final days

>>719214326
Fake. Until I see Tural nuked from the map I won't be happy.

>>719214394
If we want to itemize what goes into each patch then each numbered patch has 4 to 6 hours of MSQ stuff to do within it, taking 4.5 to 5 months to develop, compared to a more typical video game having 20-40 hours of story and taking 2 to 5 years to develop

Obviously there are also patches where literally nothing happens like 5.1 and 5.2, or 6.2 and 6.4, but the game's draw is the bigass VN attached to it and still manages to have something new to do (whether it's targeted at (You) or not) on the side of it and their output in that regard is impeccable

Being an MMORPG however it is also prone to "I Don't Like It So It Doesn't Count" syndrome

>>719214638
>while also knowing they might be able to "bring" back any of the dead or unavailable sundered ones like Nabriales or Logriff.
They can't do that because WoL has the Ascian soul crystals.

>>719214613
Yes? and?

>7.4 will explore the Ninth
I DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THIS SCI-FI BULLSHIT ANYMORE
YOU ADVERTISE TURAL AND IT'S FUCKING SHELVED AFTER 5 LEVELS WORTH OF STORY

>>719214680
i'm not convinced that they're using their time like they should be. i think yoshi-p has only been paying close attention to the game since 7.2 came out when he has no other public projects that need his attention

>>719212780
>MSQ meant to start a new plotline just like ARR did for the Zodiark saga
>Genuinely doesn't set up anything, the couple ideas that are introduced are shit we already know was a thing (Azem, other reflections)
>The MSQ itself is badly written, Wuk's the protagonist but her arc is completely skipppped, she instantly jumps from underdog to broken MC in a fight
>Krile goes with you to learn about her backstory, her backstory is barely given time to breath, because Wuk's the MC
>There's genuine NO REASON for you to be there, there's never anything that you do that it's exclusive to you. You aren't even needed as a murderhobo because there's no primals you're inmune to
And more shit. The MSQ is just a mess. Imagine going to the BLU nation and never seeing BLU magic or BLUs as a whole

>>719214754
the ascian gummies got sucked into the crystal tower on the first along with elidibus

>>719214394
It does not take 5 months to make a couple of cutscenes and an extreme trial if you have hundreds of people on staff.
Which probably means FFXIV has like 30 active developers. Yoship is full of shit and people are starting to realise.

>>719214754
Are we totally sure there aren't more of those? They were just crystals containing info

>>719213708
you forgot the wait for 7.55, and then the LONGER wait between that and expansion. so 5 months for 7.55, and then at minimum 6months for 8.0

haven't you noticed how every best girl is a lalafel? is it a coincidence?

HERE HE COMES

>>719214818
Never in the history of FF14 have they released an expac the same month as the JP fanfest. YoshiP is adamant about expacs releasing in summer.

>>719214905
They contain specific info. They're used to uplift Ascians because they hold memories that were stored by the original unsundered Convocation members. They can't just be mass produced.

>>719214821
Probably not, Yoshida had enough community wherewithal to know people were claiming he'd been demoted from the board of directors and to see that BLM player claim job reworks were coming in 7.2, he's still tangibly clued into the game and what's going on with it and shows it with each live letter (he complained about an enormous amount of Dawntrail ragebait making it hard to get real feedback the way they used to in 7.2 or 7.3's live letters iirc)

He's just not gonna go "ooooo gozaimaaaasu game is horribru now so soddy etooooo" because he's their main PR guy, that's stupid, and on top of that he's always actively encouraged fucking off from the game and having a healthy relationship with your MMOs, so even ENORMOUS population dips probably aren't going to rattle him

>>719214895
You can get your answer by looking at literally any credits sequence for any previous expansion, or waiting for 7.5 with Dawntrail's credits roll

>>719214927
Lalas have genuinely no reason to exist in lore. Why did Hyadelin create an aether based subspecies when Aether would do jack shit dealing with the Endsinger? She made Lalas to be the perfect onaholes, they simply exist for the pleasure of men and shotacon women alike. Krilie is handpicked for you and your dick by the voice of the planet herself

>>719214994
i think it went like this
>endwalker was released to wide acclaim
>yoship thinks his team can work without him hovering over their shoulder
>he focuses on other projects
>dawntrail happens
>explosion
>yoship is informed of the community's opinion of it
>the 7.2 liveletter where he's leaning back in the chair and looking annoyed
>he knows his absence caused the issues and he's gonna have to spend about a year cleaning everything up

>>719214870
finally a day for me

>>719215090
krile
tataru
lamitt
that bratty girl from the rogue quest
need to be wearing wedding dresses NOW

>>719215160
>crotchless white lingerie and wedding dresses

>They're going after the modbeasts
BASED! I fucking love Yoshi P. Get those faggots out of my game!

>>719214994
>He's just not gonna go "ooooo gozaimaaaasu game is horribru now so soddy etooooo"
But the CEO did just that lmfao

>(And one more thing: for those wondering what comes after the Japan Fan Fest...while I can't give any details just yet, rest assured you won't have to wait long.)
8.0 is not getting the usual 4-6 month wait after JP Fanfest? YoshiP not being fucking retarded?

>>719214895
bro they are advertising for people to apply to work on the game during Live letters, they got a skeleton crew at BEST

what does this mean?

>>719215160
Lamitt knew her role, that's why she was on Ardbert's dick day one

>>719215090
She didn't create them, the Allagans did, fucking retard.

>>719215242
early release being the week after japan fanfest would be the shocker of the year

>>719215206
No he didn't, don't copy-paste Redditors that already got laughed out of r/xivshitpost and r/ffxivdiscussion

>>719215273
He's just cosplaying a Yellow Jacket from Limsa with babby's first minions.

>>719215268
One of his most consistent complaints in fact has been the low amount of staff due to needing to live in Japan and speak Japanese on top of being fairly familiar with MMO development already AND be willing to work with FFXIV's engine

>>719215273
The better question is why are the yellowjackets the ones fucking around with minions

>>719215128
>has a job
>doesn't fucking show up for it
"absence" my ass he just doesn't care about 14 anymore ever since they let him produce 16
All you hear from him are salesman talk and scuffed promises that never happen and it's been like this for 3 years

>>719215328
Q. ファイナルファンタジー14が黄金のレガシー以降、ゲーム品質の低下やファン離れが起きているが把握しているか? A.把握している。

Q. Are you aware that since Final Fantasy XIV: Dawntrail, the game's quality has gone down and players have been leaving? A. We are aware.

>>719214927
You mean femra and elezen(minus alisaie)?
Lalafell npcs are all trash

>>719215128
Let's be real yeah, his game design is just crap. FFXVI really feels like a much prettier FFXIV, with an even worse dungeon design and the same CD based combat system.

>>719215128
I disagree. Yoship was there in EW where issues really started to show and I'd argue even in ShB. Its just that ShB and EW's stories alongside Covid helped overshadow the rest of the issues the game was having.
I personally think there is a disconnect between what the players want and what Yoship wants. That and he seems to not care about the game anymore after EW's release. Its probably time for him to step down so someone with fresh ideas can take over.

>>719215408
Paste the rest of the answer and not the part that make your cock throb for "admitting it was bad"

And again stop copy-pasting Redditors that got laughed off of Reddit, AthenaAreia is not a reliable source

>>719215317
No, Emet doesn't know why you're a toy sized Azem if you're a Lala.
Why the FUCK would ancient Etherians create human subspecies when they really didn't belive in individuality as a concept? Subspecies HAVE to be Hyadelyn's meddling when she sundered existence
Why the FUCK are some subspecies not a thing in every reflection? Who knows

>>719215391
If he had any balls when he was still on the board and the game was at its peak, he would have demanded more budget and resources on threat of him quitting.

>>719215336
This is like putting a bullet in the skull of /v/ reposters

>>719215336
this man is far too nice to these retards

>please, please, PLEASE stop making me ban you idiots
>just stop talking about your mods

>>719215520
But how then would SE be able to funnel money into failed Marvel games and flopspoken

>>719215480
You sure know a lot about Reddit, why don't you go back there? Why are you simping for this game so much? Yoshi won't fuck you.

>>719215520
>complains religiously about needing more people that may or may not even exist
>"he should have just asked for a higher budget and more resources"
Businessman of the year right here

>>719215336
>Another example of such a feature: a mod that allows players to freely equip optional items and display them to others. What does that say to the players who go through the trouble of saving up to purchase these goods from the FFXIV Online Store? Are these players losing out by not using a mod?
Maybe don't charge 43 dollars for a single outfit, retard.

>>719215529
>posted an excerpt
Delete this post or Square Enix will sue you into the grave.

>>719215507
The Allagans, not the Ancients. Read the descriptions of the fish:

>>719215593
What a cop-out *farts on you*

>>719215336
This man has been on damage control for a year straight holy shit

>>719215659
Not charging is how you get angry investors asking why you're not selling $40 clothing sets.

>>719215636
Keep running damage control while Squeenix burns to the ground.

>>719215710
it's long-winded but all it's really saying is "please please please fucking stop announcing you mod your game"

>>719215691
Oh my b
Then why the fuck are there Lalas on some reflections, naturally?

>>719215691
old, stale bait. still works though for some reason. good job

>>719215782
The ones in Alexandria are originally from the Source from that tropical island. As for dwarves on the First, couldn't tell you.

>>719215336
he really has to stop being nice to these retards he's had to make far too many post about mods over the last few years i would just go scorched earth at this point

>>719215782
Dawntrail implies they've been dimension hopping (willingly or not) but the First's Dwarves are still an unknown

>>719215797
Holy shit a talking onahole

>>719215691
All this implies is that there's Lalafell DNA in the chemical pool.

>>719215529
Still late I already summarized it to people

>>719215882
He's not a retard so he doesn't want to attack the playerbase or cut them off for what he already knows are mostly just cosmetic mods.

>>719214927
only thing krile is the best at is being an absolute waste of space every other lalafell character is about the same

>>719215881
there were lalas on the ninth before the milala. there's a lala endless that mentions the iifa tree and condie petie existing before electrope

>>719215551
I've come to the conclusion that, zooms and later gens, are utterly clueless when it comes to bending the law. These faggots proudly share their piracy sites on the safe/normalfag web. They have zero idea that these companies concern isn't about piracy itself, they know it's a dead end, what they want is to not let as much potential customer to know how to pirate. The same with this shit. Just use your mods and shut the fuck up.

>>719215882
>release ultimate
>people have a race
>people cheat to get ahead
>"if you keep cheating there won't be any more ultimates"
>different fags just continue to cheat after
>now there's no more ultimate
>"wtf man why no ultimates?"

>>719215691
So the Allagans made loli dwarves and kept cat people as sex slaves, truly the most evil.

>>719215797
Show pubes

>>719209154
This won't become true no matter how many times you spam it.

>>719215947
thing is he keeps letting this shit fester and it will always turn out like this he should've just killed it at the start

>>719215997
But the cheating scandals are the most fun parts of Ultimate races

>>719215459
I liked FFXVI but I'd have preferred the latter half of EW and the entirety of DT to not be shit over it. The hubris of Yoship and by extension CBU3 to think they can develop a fully fledged main title alongside a live service game is a SE blunder I haven't seen like that Spirits Within movie.

>>719216097
>he keeps letting this shit fester
Playerscope was C&D'd and there's a high probability Mare Synchronus was C&D'd, what is being allowed to fester my man

>>719216113
The single pixel was incredible, more fun than any of the actual "races" combined.

>>719216007
>loli dwarve
Obese midgets

>>719216024
can't show you them

>>719216141
people are going to find a way around it because he keeps tiptoe'ing around the issue

>>719216195
>fat bottomed and fat thighed midget
one must imagine a wet and willing or not lalafell sinking down onto their cock

>>719215691
Then why do they exist in the First?

lalas should be exterminated

>>719216128
Didn't they have like a vastly different dev team? I'm not counting asset creators btw, just the key dev team, the idea people. Apart from Yoshi-P, XVI was created by mostly the HW team. EW retains mostly the SB team, DT has a different writer and the fujo was pushed to a more supervisory role.

>>719216526
largely yeah FF16 was developed by the "A-team" (read: ARR/HW staffers) while SB up to now has been "B-team"
it seems like A-team is still being kept away from FF14's development to do other things and that's probably for the better given FF16

>>719215336
Tldr, keep mods on your computer and don’t show them to anyone, shut the fuck up about it, I will let you do it

>>719216696
Based, ERP as a Lala is the best part of the game

>>719212498
Cunny cleavage

>>719216214
WELL WHY NOT

>>719212498
>trinal troonasty
That's a man, isn't it.

So Mare was almost certainly targeted because of the censorship stuff then

>>719215336
He knows modding is the only reason the game is still alive

Ok, maybe you guys were right about him

>>719216950
because they don't exist

>(And one more thing: for those wondering what comes after the Japan Fan Fest...while I can't give any details just yet, rest assured you won't have to wait long.)
He saw the people doomposting about 8.0 being 2 years away. Actually funny how fast he addressed it.

>>719216696
>don’t show them to anyone, shut the fuck up about it,
thats always been the rule but nobody follows that so once again he's going to have to make a post about this in like 8 months,just fucking kill them at this point

>>719217027
>waahhh we need civil discussion between players and devs
>civil discussion occurs about the state of the game
>wahhh why aren't people being civil

>>719217004
yoshi p has mentioned he doesn't want people using nude mods because of this long before mare was a thing or the europeans got retarded

>>719208632
We like this. Streetwear is what FF is all about.

>>719217116
The worst part was no one knew how bad the game actually got toward the end. Man that ending just kills any enjoyment of the game. I still haven't started the DLC.

>>719217087
He's oddly on-point and quick with doomers for Dawntrail, it's funny
Honestly I sometimes use Yoshida in live letters as a metronome for what's actually buzzing around the community and what's just some faggot on /v/ believing there's millions of like-minded people

Player A knows Player B is a faker and doesn't care

>>719208395
>XIV could drop to below Stormblood sub numbers
We were already at SB numbers and literally half of the playerbase used mate. If 20% of them quit, we’re already at sub-SB numbers.

>>719217087
>>719217360
Same energy.

>>719217352
It was already wearing itself pretty thing even halfway through the game.

>>719215336
Literally no one fake ultimate weapons, Everyone would see through it immediately
He's just protecting the whales and his scams

>>719217418
SE could not make the game good with Endwalker numbers.

>>719217041
No.... NO

>>719217536
Yoshitpiss dicksuckers are fucking pathetic.

>>719216441
I don't look like this but I do say this

>>719217665
i think it was kind of a bad example to use but he's went on about people cheating enough during shadowbringers

>>719217027
KWAB

>>719217619
The 2 hours of the demo were honestly the highlight of the entire game

>>719217619
It advertised itself as this big political game but then all the politics were explained on a map between missions. Also the combat could have been way better. Better combos, attacks not locked to slow timers, etc.

>>719217936
Yeah, the demo sold me especially when Jerma did the shill stream and didn't touch the game after. But the game managed to become just a boring slog and I only finished it just to say I did.

>>719217795
He caps off with real-world censorship laws tightening so he's just doing foreplay for the real reason

>>719217686
shouldn't be that surprising

Honestly I hope there is a long wait.
Maybe they'll actually put some fucking effort into making a good product and make jobs not fucking ass to play again.
Fucking hell I miss ARR so much.

>>719215336
Bravo Yoshida-san, another brilliant response to player feedback

so you guys have to wait 2 years for new content and they admit the amount of content will be further reduced?

how are people ITT defending this?

Have they said anything about the combat rework?

>>719218563
Only to look forward to 8.0 in 2 years.

Im john gunwalker

>>719218563
LOL

>>719218638
>>719218778

Dawntrail is literally the worst expansion of them all. Aladdin got banned and betrayed by the seven seas alliance, Modders ruined pvp, Several content droughts... This casino is going to go bankrupt by December.

>>719218563
Nothing yet, Yoshida implied work is currently fixed on 7.5.

>>719215336
Literal confirmation that coomers are killing the game

>>719219427
>keeping cuck countries out is bad

>>719215336
So splatoon is officially allowed now
Time to unsub

>>719219427
read the paragraph immediately beneath that one anon-doko

lala

>>719221003
rape, impregnation even

>>719221003
WOWIE ZOWIE NOW DAT'S A HOT POTATO!

>>719221037
>>719221096
>cabbage patch doll head
>standard female body

>>719221037
>says this to ai sloppa 14 lolcow

>>719221376
whats worse, modbeastery or sloppa?

>>719210353
I like how they got rid of most of these and kept the disparity and the lack of synergy.

Also, the disparity is literally unfixable because of the massive gap that's created the second someone dies and gets ressed, the only way to fix it would be to make the content braindead.

>>719221489
meant to link
>>719210596

>>719221489
there's plenty of synergy. most every class has a '+%dps to everyone' button

>>719221774
if that's what they meant by synergy, it's pretty boring but sure.

>>719221315
this one is more on model

>>719221862
leg glider position

>>719219804
Literal confirmation that coomers are killing the game.

>>719215336
>game NEEDS mogstation sales or it shuts down!
>don't damage our services!
Well maybe make a game people actually want to sub to?
Maybe don't damage your own services with expacs like dt?

Like its a fine response to the mod situation itself, but idk the mogstation bit rubs me the wrong way.
Of course the sales of your overpriced $42 outfits are going to be down, everyone is going through the tarifs and inflation not just SE. But its not like FFXIV has been in a spot that would make anyone want to spend money on it in the first place. You've damaging your own service there Yoshida.

>>719222017
t. modbeast shitting themself in fear

>>719215336
>game NEEDS mogstation sales or it shuts down!
>don't damage our services!
Well maybe make a game people actually want to sub to?
Maybe don't damage your own services with expacs like dt?

Like its a fine response to the mod situation itself, but idk the mogstation bit rubs me the wrong way.
Of course the sales of your overpriced $42 outfits are going to be down, everyone is going through the tarifs and inflation not just SE. But its not like FFXIV has been in a spot that would make anyone want to spend money on it in the first place. You've been damaging your own service there Yoshida, thats gonna reflect in sales.

>>719222130
>>719222017
well thats interesting

>>719222130
i saw it

i saw your femhroth

>>719222205
emet-kun is one of the notorious shitposter modbeasts from /vg/

>>719222227
Why is he a disgusting furfag

>>719222130
Yup. I don't know why, SE business/decision people are probably some of the dumbest motherfuckers out there. They have plenty of artists, creative and wacky, but for some reason, they think those people are fit for corporate. It's like an ouroboros of stupid business decision.

>>719222017
>>719222130

You could be happy and horny in Second Life or VRChat

yet you chose to be angry and confused in XIV

the gooner is a confused and retarded animal, it shouldn't be studied and instead killed for the good of humanity.

>>719215336
>we don't care if you use mods and don't fuck up others experience
>but if you act retarded and start posting your modbeast and we can link your account to that, you're banned
seems reasonable enough

>>719222393
shut the fuck up we're looking at the femhroth

>>719222205
Oh I just made a typo and it sounded retarded so i deleted it.

Thats not my femhroth I just thought I'd get the you cant post the same image again error so I changed it.

>>719222130
>>719222017

I wish this place posted cute races instead of lalas, roes and hroths

>>719222669
what are the cute races?

>>719222769
lalas

>>719222669
The cute races post in /xivg/ because they can farm (You)s there.

>>719222779
Eh... almost but their eyelashes look so strange to me.

>>719222130
Not like modders were any better than the mogstation. Paid mods with an absurd VRAM footprint are a blight upon this community.

yoSHIT fucks trannies PISS killed final faggotry

whoever posted this dollar: Thank you, you're based.

>>719222826
I downloaded mare and joined synchshells to gaze upon the beasts.

largest download I got from a character was 1.2 GB. Their eyeball iris texture was an 8k texture.

>>719222769
Femras, elezens, miqotes

>>719222845
barry "simply stumbled upon it" bazztek

>>719222970
ok I wont post my hime cut xaela femra

>>719213030
Yoshida fucking hates spending time in the office with those losers. Being a celebrity at cons suits him much better.
Also, I think they're actually profitable events in themselves, so: money.

just found they banned Mare
they should have done this last year but it's good they did. maybe the RP scene can recover
t. balmung player since 2014

>Become less and less interested in making the MMO because you're in a high company position now and can pull your weight get main line titles of your own and not hand-me downs you gotta fix.
>First major project proceeds to be nothing more than a mid at best final fantasy that you focused all your time and attention on while your MMO hand-me down was wrapping up it's story
>Your first major project doesn't end up doing as well as you want, or your co-workers and now you're back stuck working on your hand me down mid MMO that just had it's Cataclysm with how much people have disliked it and the new story direction your underlings wrote.
All I can say is. Lmao.

>>719223004
thats fine I have my own to look at

>>719213067
Yeah, that's not a bad way of putting it, but it also assumes you don't farm your own shit. This is part of a broader problem with how SE treats the in-game economy. Once upon a time it was valuable to have HQ gear even before cap. Leveling was also slower. This meant that players wanting to push forward during the MSQ would be compelled to buy good gear and food from the market board even during the basic leveling leg at an expansion's start. YoshiP then decided, in his infinite wisdom, that it was no good if players "had" to buy HQ items to progress and started making most leveling-tier quests reward a piece of HQ gear. Overnight, almost the entire crafting sector ceased to exist outside of grinding exp or making endgame gear that nobody needs because the best shit always drops from raids and the welfare shit is piss-easy to get as a bonus while you farm currency for raid crap upgrades. This really only left endgame crafter gear, where the script is flipped and the best shit is made rather than bought with endgame currency.

Somewhere in all this, part of it was probably also one of SE's fucktard attempts to rugpull RMTs by making it harder to make gil en mass.

>>719222971
enjoy your furfag troon in your MMO for another 2 years. You love defending yoSHIT so he will repay you with a permanent annoying furfag troon that you will have to always deal with

>>719223485
>Somewhere in all this, part of it was probably also one of SE's fucktard attempts to rugpull RMTs by making it harder to make gil en mass.

where in the fuck did you get this idea. gil is so worthless there's no demand for RMT. it may be nightclubs buying prize money that keeps them in business

>do one last trial roulette for the day
>emanation

why must i suffer so

>>719223650
The change he's describing happened in Heavensward. SE has also had an ongoing war with RMT since FFXI and they're always trying to think of new ways to fuck them.
Also, RMT still has value in this game. Gil absolutely has value. Crafted gear for raid launch, potions, food, houses, expensive glamour items like the yan mount, criterion drops, the Cloud of Darkness hair. There's plenty to spend money on.

>>719222130
People are getting too old for these games

>>719223610
How many hours did you spend in ff14 and reading every shit about your boyfriend yoship?

>>719223767
At least it’s not a arr one

>>719223794
a million gil is 50 cents

BSTbros...

>>719223794
>Gil absolutely has value
what do i spend this on

yoshi suck my big fat shlong

>gil is super valuable on raid release!!
>wait 3 days and every crafter raced to the bottom and made it at-cost once again

>>719224036
Sponsoring my achievement, I'll give you the loot

>>719207546 (OP)
I hate this faggot and his faggot game. Play a good game with actual content like FFXI.

>>719224129
it is valuable on raid release. like literal raid release. on balmung crafted gear usually hits mat cost before noon that day

>>719207546 (OP)
I just finished helping the cunts at Little Ala Mhigo with their trying to steal crystals problem. When does the game get good?

>use mods
>make all the women have fat tits
>use gpose plugins to make them get raped and enslaved by just about everything
>never share the pictures

Im glad Yoshida just told me my playstyle was ToS compliant and there was no problem. I will buy 8.0

>>719215882
Stop being nice to the people paying high way robbery $15 a month for no content?

>>719224256
you're in the worldbuilding phase atm. and don't worry, everyone hates those cunts

>>719224269
>enslaved

what? like a skyrim mod? what the fuck

I'm no doomer but things must be grim if he's writing this. His previous notes about mods were firm with "stop it". This is almost permission. Or modders were bigger revenue streams than people thought.

>>719224416
i read it as 'please stop being dumb and making me enforce these rules i don't agree with in most cases'

>>719224256
honestly, not for a good while
personally I started getting into it after Titan

>>719224561
haukke manor isn't that bad

>>719224416
Playerscope told us the game has around 300k active users
The Mare dev told us 150k unique users used mare.

>>719224354
you can just steal people's data and put it on other characters
play some modded animations, use gpose to pose further, and there you go
never trust someone in gpose with a carbuncle

>>719209071
the actual game part is fucking shit and super neglected.
most people were just in it for the story at this point and they shat the diaper with that now so there is nothing left.
if they could at least keep the story going in a mediocre way like in EW the fallout wouldnt have been as big.

>>719207546 (OP)
he truly killed ff

>>719209071
A lot of people moved over from second life to XIV, to do disgusting mods with horse cocks etc and pedos for the child race. They come there the sexual content.

The old players who were there for the game are mad that these people came over and are posting their vile shit all over social media.

>>719215336
OH NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>719210596
most of these points are true.
the game is designed in a very stupid way where you need 40 button binds to do samey rotations because all skills are just x potency that are interchangeable with other jobs.
there are mmos where some jobs use 1-2 buttons and they shit all over FF14 when it comes to complexity despite that.

of course SE will never ACTUALLY address that issue and will only remove but never fill the void because their actual goal isnt making a more interesting game. they want to streamline everything to reduce the work load.

>>719210636
It seems pretty obvious he is working on a new game

>>719224960
Its interesting to me that PVP is able to achive more interesting playstyles with 1/10th the buttons.

>>719225084
Because they fall into job fantasy.
Dancer has it's core partnering with good mobility
Ninja has a trick for each situation
Monk will grapple your ass down
Warrior flies in and just chimps out
Etc

I wish they'd give pve job design to the pvp team.

>>719224960
Having """complex""" rotations is such a meme, most people still play wow classic and you literally push 1 button most of the time.

They're going all in on PotD content even FINALLY letting you queue in with randoms for the later floors, and moving checkpoints so you don't need to restart from 0 every time you wipe.

But I still find the content boring as fuck because of how lame the maps are.

>>719215728
They could 100% charge much less. But it's whatever, I've got no intention of whaling for a game I have to both fucking purchase AND pay a sub to play.

>>719225228
>I wish they'd give pve job design to the pvp team.
Anon... it's the same team

>>719215273
beastmaster will likely start in limsa

>>719209071
>I heard from some players that post 7.0, the content from the updates is good.
Nah.

>Savage tier is fine
>Extremes have been ok
>FRU was mid
>Alliance raid is very similiar in pacing/difficulty to Myths of the Realm
>Cosmic Exploration is very niche and shallow, crafter content, not many rewards
>Chaotic Alliance raid was a good idea executed poorly due to being a 24 man savage with body checks. The rewards themselves is decent and its the first time in history they rewarded savage level gear. Shame the totem system to actually get the rewards is insanely grindy and shit
>Occult Crescent is Bozja, without Castrum, without Solo Duels, with more boring/safe lost actions, and you do nearly 100% of your damage with those actions so you might as well play tank, and no story to speak of, oh and the loot table for rewards was so fucked up that all the new items dropped so frequently they're worthless
>Forked Tower (OC's version of BA) was such a clusterfuck to actually enter the instance that people gave up

we're getting a new deep dungeon in like a month. It apparently has big shakeups to the DD formula.
Better than Endwalker sure, but not good.

>>719225238
We don't need complex rotations for every job. Some can be hard, some can be easy.
We just need to feel like you are that job again. ARR and HW made you feel like you were what you were playing (besides smn for the most part, but even it had a degree of summon management)
Right now most jobs feel like others with different visuals. Especially fucking healers where you can overlay nearly every button they have with each other.
>>719225318
I wholeheartedly refuse to believe this.

I would 100% support PVP 1 button rotations if it meant they'd add soul to the jobs again

>>719225456
They can't while endgame focused on time attack boss fights and not on jolly cooperative RPG dungeon crawling

>>719225228
Dark Knight is nerfed to death in PVP right now, and and arguably way too centralized around Salted Earth with no real benefit
But damn Plunge chaining with Sole Survivor and spamming Shadowbringer feels good.

>>719207546 (OP)
TEN
YEN

>>719225403
>we're getting a new deep dungeon in like a month. It apparently has big shakeups to the DD formula.
No, not really. It seems much of the same, what remains to be seen is if they follow Orthos or HoH design philosophy when it comes to mobs and mechanics (which were basically all one shot in EO).
The "new" content is them slapping a 4 man fight that scales up to ultimate at the end of it.

>>719225664
They stated it was following HoH, probably because EO was dead on release content.

They're changing some things, you can now queue through the entire DD rather than up to floor 30, and there will be a more starting points instead of 1 and 21. I believe the highest starting point is 70.

>>719225363
I wholeheartedly hope unlocking it requires you to have completed Bozja/Save the Queen, and the trainer NPCs you talk to for BST quests are Lyon and Pagaga wearing fake mustaches and glasses.

>>719223872
nowhere near as many hours as you stuck in a game forced to hear about a tranny furfag talk about tacos. The more you defend him the more you admit ur okay with another 2 years of that furfag troon

>>719225764
i dont really care about it since limited jobs are a meme waste of space

>dood what if we like...took this classic and beloved ff job and made it unusable in 99% of content?

>>719225456
1 button basic combo is a great idea. It literally adds no "skill" to have 3 buttons separate when they can sit together
>But jobs like sam and nin exi-
Sam can have 3 buttons to cover it all. 1 for the basic 123, one for the second route 23 and one for the last. 111, 122, 13.
Nin can do the same, 123 with the alt hit being a separate button but honestly they can just remove the second combo ender and the worthless kunai system that adds nothing but be a bandage for the old buff maintenence
But they also still have the option of adding more connected skills to the same button. (Last I checked flourish and fan dance iv are still split skills on dancer even though you literally can not use the latter until you've used the former)
And anyone who tries to say controller support is the issue is dumb. A controller player can get about 48 easily accessed inputs on their crossbars without having to do any sort of "hard swapping".
>>719225569
To be fair, that's almost entirely because of Frontlines and they refuse to do the obvious fix in just making salted have a pull limit of 5.

>>719225973
I've messed with Xivcombo for it and the only job I think feels like complete shit with 1 button combos is Dancer, its dance minigame for buffs just doesn't work without 4 seperate buttons.

Given you could just change different buttons into the steps.

>>719215797
me looking for some BRC

>wanting every job to play like zzzzziper
jesus christ

WHM + BRD: Song of the Gods - Radiant Finale becomes Final Fantasia and instantly fills one bar of limit break in addition to its usual effects.
WHM + BLM: Twincast - If a BLM and WHM in the same party cast Holy and Flare within 5 seconds of each other, the abilities are replaced by Judgment and Meltdown. Judgment deals massive damage and heals the party based on damage dealt. Meltdown inflicts massive damage and a fire vulnerability up effect.
SCH + SMN: Efficient Arcanima - All SCH and SMN spells have reduced cast time and MP cost. All aetherflow stacks grant a bonus aetherflow stack upon use.
SGE + MCH: Hypertuned - Each cast of Dosis causes the MCH to pulse a healing effect from their lunchbox. Drill is increased in potency due to an aetherial sheathe woven by the SGE and inflicts a brief vuln up.
SGE + RDM: Masters of Magic - All spell potencies for the two jobs are increased. When RDM uses Fleche the attack is joined by SGE lasers that inflict an extra strike and pulse a heal around the target. When Contre Sixte is used it leaves a sigil on the ground where the enemy was hit. Casting Phlegma, Toxicon, or Pneuma within this ward will trigger an extra explosion of magic.
PLD + SGE: Mirror Shield - If the PLD is in Pneuma's line of fire, the effect will be triggered again a few seconds later. If the effect is triggered Pneuma's cooldown is reduced by one minute.
WAR + PLD: Stars of the Bloodsands - PLD's Provoke turns into Work the Crowd, it grants the party increased healing received and a shield. WAR's Provoke becomes Play the Heel, each time the WAR is struck under its effect the party receives a stacking damage up buff.
PLD + GNB: My Romantic Dream - Each time the PLD uses Royal Authority the GNB can use a free Blasting Zone. Circle of Scorn grants a free Bow Shock. Each block grants a Rough Divide. The PLD gains a passive 5% defense up because he feels empowered by inspiring the GNB.

>>719208705
Okay.
https://files.catbox.moe/j4r6ia.png

"Laws that regulate the content of video games grow stricter by the year. These laws are there to protect minors and for a variety of other reasons, but the fact remains that they are tangibly becoming stricter. We have a duty to provide our services in adherence to the laws of all countries where FFXIV is available, and if we are unable to do so, the distribution of our game can be prohibited. This is another example of damage dealt to our services."

Correct me if I'm wrong but is this the first time a major/popular game industry figure straight up addressed the increasing censorship/regulation in the gaming industry?

The fact that this was mentioned and given matter of factly is absolutely fascinating to me.

>>719226615
before I open this: which one is it

>>719214404
Your job is basically unkillable in Crystalline Conflict.. Shut the fuck up.

>>719209071
I played this for the story.
I quit before final trial of 7.0.

>>719226772
Modbeast, unfortunately.

>>719226540
DRK + PLD: When both tanks have their tank stance active, and DRK uses Shadowbringer the instance BGM changes to "Who brings shadow"

Honestly the transparency is nice.

Basically said mods cool but use it privately, don't talk don't Mare and especially don't post gooner pics online lmao.

Bro's so transparent he even said sqenix needs cash shop to survive inflation lmfao what a goddamn statement.

Edit:

I am also considering how to increase the freedom of choice players have in the gear they choose to equip.

Ayo? No more job restricted glams please??

>>719215459
All they had to do was add party members, make the side quests not suck ass, and not end the story like Inception, and FFXVI would have gone over a lot better. I swear to fuck, if these Japs had their way, Homeward Bound would have ended with a cut to black the second the cat fell into the river.

It's really fascinating. There seems to be a generational gap between old school mod makers and users who are aware of the illegal nature of mods. Mods are a privilege, not a right, they're supposed to be free, it's a hobby, etc etc.

And a new generation that feels owed the use of modding tools like it's just another product that they pay for, who's not really interested in the culture around the hobby, with some new mod makers selling 40$ bad quality portage of Sims haircuts.

I remember three years ago, I helped the Mare dev by translating the warning message when you setup Mare for the first time. "This is a mod, there is a security risk attached to it, be aware of it and don't synchronize willy nilly to people you don't know". They took it really seriously and blocked the setup for a full minute and asked for a password to be sure that people would read that (if I remember well), and there was a bit of a shitstorm from some users because it was deemed this message was too complex for people with reading issues, it was too infantilizing, it was not accessible enough... The culture shock was really interesting.

>>719226847
I would stop using glamourer if they removed job restrictions from glamours

>>719226847
>Edit:

>Role Skills
Role skills now change based on the job equipping them, providing the expected core functionality along with extra bonuses.
>Lucid Dreaming
BLM: Dream of Black - Xenoglossy and Foul trigger the casting of Scathe II, an OGCD that guarantees the next Fire spell will be a critical direct hit
SMN: Dream of Gods - Any summons called forth while under the effect provide a partywide buff specific to the summon. Multiple effects can stack. Example: Titan grants Stoneskin. Garuda grants a movement speed buff. Leviathan grants increased healing received.
RDM: Dream of Crimson - All damage inflicted on the enemy while the effect is active provides bonus mana of both types. The next Verraise costs no MP.
PCT: Dream of Stars - Starry Muse cast under the effect now provides a partywide shield. Any spells cast within the landscape trigger a partywide heal.
WHM: Dream of Saints - All healing effects cast under this effect have doubled potency.
SCH: Dream of Strategy - The cooldown of Expedience is reduced by one minute. Sacred Soils cast under this effect have no cost.
AST: Dream of Fortune - The effect of Wheel of Fortune while granted under this effect gives all affected party members a guaranteed critical direct hit buff for 10 seconds.
SGE: Dream of Genius - Addersgall and Addersting are both restored to full. The next Kerachole will grant partywide shields that will grant Addersting when broken.

Oh look, a reasonable response of:

"Use it but don't share it"

Holy shit, imagine that.. the motto of all modders pre-2019...

Shame people cant stick to that.

why is this guy just copying reddit posts

>>719227061
>recognizing the posts

Damn, raising sub price and banning mods is not what this game needed right now

Can't wait for the fallout when all mod makers leave in 8.0 killing off all mods

>>719227036
Not like it's a surprise. Attention whores went from something universally mocked to an entire fucking industry of clout-chasing faggots.

>>719227090
i don't i just figured that's where they were from because one had an edit

I am the only one happy because next expansion is going to take a while? Theres a ton of stuff to do this expansion
>havent mastered all my phantom jobs
>havent been able to get all the gathering/crafting relics

>>719226802
Same. Without the story, FFXIV has nothing. It is the primary point of engagement for the vast majority of players. If only Yoshitpiss had realized that when developing FFXVI

>>719227374
You and most normal people

>>719227374
the cosmic exploration relics take a handful of hours the fuck you need an expansion delayed for months to do that

>>719227024
>Bloodbath
MNK: Bloody Claws - All attacks under this effect hit twice.
DRG: Bloody Lancet - All health restored grants an equivalent shield. The next Life Surge under this effect will double the potency of the affected weaponskill and give healing equivalent to half the damage dealt.
NIN: Bloody Shuriken - Fuma Shuriken and Hyosho Ranryu under this effect will inflict a potent 30 second DoT that restores health each time it deals damage.
SAM: Bloody Cleave - Iaijutsu cast under this effect will splash potent heals to nearby party members.
RPR: Bloody Reap - All attacks under this effect build stacks of blood. At 10 stacks, Harvest Moon charges for free. Stacks do not fall off between uses of Bloody Reap.
VPR: Bloody Trance - The Viper's gauge fills passively while this effect is active. Each attack lowers the cooldown of Serpent's Ire by 5 seconds.

How's the new extreme?

Going to be that guy, but maybe if the cosmetics that have come out this past year didn't look like ass more people would have bought them.

Juuuuuuust sayin'

>>719215336
unc is YAPPIN

>>719227547
Pretty easy, it has one real mechanic.
Its braindead to tank

>>719227567
I'd buy mogstation slop if they finally gave us Yotsuyu's hair.

>>719227447
Not everyone is a neet like you, anon

>>719227640
Everyone had it done within a few days. Are you unaware that each one finished grants an exp bonus to others? I had like three done on day one.

Once more, because I believe a certain sub section of players and tourist need to read this: "However, if the user posts a screenshot of their naked character publicly on social media, FFXIV itself may be subject to legal measures by regulators in certain countries."

Fuck off to VRChat. They already fucked and completely took over that space after all.

>>719227589
Perfect

>>719227635
I'd buy mogstation slop if they finally gave us a FUCKING FULL FACE HEADGEAR FOR NINS OR TANKS FOR VIERA

In summary, nothing has changed. Mare was nuked because it violated fight club. People can continue using their mods as long as they don't bring attention to it, which has always been their stance since day one. Say what you will about Yoshida, but he's been nothing but patient regarding this subject, considering it's had to be reiterated once per expansion. Any other dev at SE would have gone scorched earth ages ago.

The guilt trip over the mogstation sales and threat of raising sub prices was kind of weird though. Even if it's an empty threat in hopes people fall in line.

Also, his final comment at the end is interesting. I'll believe it when I see it, but he specifically says we won't be waiting long for what comes after JP Fanfest. Could mean a million different things, and like I said, I'll believe it when I see it... but hopefully Winter 2026 for 8.0 isn't a far-flung reality. Either way, he clearly was keeping track of the tepid reception to the Fanfest dates today.

>>719208705
I can only offer you a lalafell

>>719227848
There are already like 4 mare repalcements so it'll be interesting to see people just keep doing what they were doing.

Pretty reasonable stance all told, though a bummer for me personally as a (former) Mare enjoyer.

Only part that stood out as iffy was this:

We operate our servers and data centers twenty-four hours a day, three-hundred-sixty-five days a year with the hope that our players can enjoy a reliable gaming experience.

XIV has so much scheduled downtime man, what are you talking about my dude.

>>719213030
I'd be more keen to support those events if they acted as fundraisers that go right back into the game
however knowing that all the merch, concession and other sales go straight into funding more SE flops I can't in good conscience

>Summoner
Ruin and all Rites now have animation changes. They are fluffed to be cast directly from Carbuncle, egis, and primals.
Egis and primals now stay on the field for the duration of their attunement.
Solar Bahamut is replaced with Demi-Hydaelyn. Demi-Zodiark is added. Hydaelyn is an upgrade to Phoenix, while Zodiark is an upgrade to Bahamut. They can be egi glamoured back down to their lower forms.
Physick changes to a support ability based on the summoned primal.
Resurrection is removed. Flames of Rebirth is available as a support ability while Hydaelyn or Phoenix is summoned, and costs two aetherflow.
Bahamut and Phoenix are now separate buttons with their own cooldowns. Both are now on one-minute cooldowns.
Bahamut/Zodiark now have 3 second casts on their filler spells.
Summoning Bahamut twice in a row will activate Summon Odin.
Summoning Phoenix twice in a row will activate Summon Alexander.
Bahamut into Phoenix will activate Summon Knights of the Round.
Phoenix into Bahamut will activate Summon Warring Triad.
After using both Summon Odin and Summon Alexander, Summon Warrior of Light will become available.

>>719209071
it's fucking fucked mate, big time.

>>719215273
big gay al's big gay thing.

What causes this ?

>>719215710
He deserves it.

it's about as balanced and as fair as you could ask for. I have some minor issues, but its an understandable stance.

i think one issue is you can't blame only mare for lowered cash shop sales, because a lot of it involves things the cash shop never would have. I think part of it is just that it's expensive and a lot pf people just can't buy on average $20-30 of goods per month on the cash shop, or can't justify it.

that brings up an issue about whether or not a lot of modern gaming is sustainable: it could be only ps3-ps4 quality can really be used to keep revenue possible. endless upgrades and more involved games might be hitting limits.

idk its perfectly reasonable points, but mare also provided a lot of content for the game and siloing it back still removes reasons for some to play.

This thread is xivving it up, let's keep it rolling y'all

It is also how FFXIV has been operating for years. Yoshi P and other members have me ruined that without Mogstation cash there were a lot of projects that wouldn't have happened like servers in EU/OCE. It seems to be an agreement between Square and CBU3 (now CS3) that Square gets the majority of the sub money, the FFXIV gets the Mogstation money in exchange of allowing them almost full creative freedom. You think the game isn't in a great state now, imagine if the CEO tried to add crypto/NFTs (like the last one tried to), actual live service battle passes, or gacha.

However the subscription has been the same price since ARR so inflation is sort of screwing with the numbers and Square is quite generous to leave it at the same price for over a decade especially when their economy is not doing great.

>>719207546 (OP)
Only dead MMO's churn out "expansions" every year to keep the whales from screaming too loud.

What are /v/ - Video Game's thought on the current Kate happenings? Should she be fired?

What other community drama would you like to see?

>>719228432
Fire Kate fire Hiroi it's as simple as that.
I'm looking forward to the brewing modder civil war.

>>719215797
>>719218268
>>719221003
>>719221862
Can you actually talk about the game? Literally all you ever do is make these low effort nonposts that completely ignore the subject of both the thread or whoever you're replying to, and are clearly just thinly veiled excuses to post your avatar for attention. Its either that or you're telling us about your Roegadyn BBC fantasies. Like what the fuck is wrong with you? Are you mentally ill or just so fucking cripplingly autistic to the point of lacking basic social skills? What even made you this way? You've been doing this for 2 years straight, every single day, every single FFXIV thread, all day long. Day or night you're always here.

For someone who's as terminally online and obsessed with FFXIV, you are suspiciously incapable of actually talking about it.

Whatever it takes to make the wowscum leave. Those fucking trannies completely ruined the game's community when asmongol and others like him led them to the game. Everything was nice before that, you barely ever saw a troon and modding was an open secret. Of course those subhumans couldn't understand that concept. Hopefully this purge will force them back where they belong.

>>719227680
>Everyone had it done within a few days.
If you're a neet, people with jobs and lives take longer because they have shit to do

>>719228536
Cocoli goes to bed at 4:00 EST, you're talking to ghosts.
>>719228552
Do you play like a half hour a day or something?

>>719228061
Being in a really shitty RL situation and getting to forget about it for a while feels good.

>>719228574
>Do you play like a half hour a day or something?
Some people just have that yes, not that you could ever understand sitting at home all day doing nothing and losing all sense of perspective or time management

Cosmicchads won

>>719228638
Boiling wagie accusing anyone else of poor time management LMAO
Let me guess you're so uggghhh just so like uggggh tired and uggghhh aggghhh so tired after work ugggggh don't wanna game so uugggh tired

>>719227850
god i fucking hate that school skirt literally everyone uses the texture looks so bad when dyed

>>719228708
That dhalmel is creeping me the fuck out, it looks like it's been chopped up and cyborged like a Combine soldier or something.

>>719228536
I don't understand why the mods won't ban. He's constantly violating the Rule 13, never contributes anything to any thread, and every post he makes is not even vaguely related to the thread subject. He just makes these incredibly low effort irrelevant posts attached to his avatar. He even spams Ai generated images of his avatar (when that stuff us supposed to be contained to the AI generals). Like just get rid of him already, holy shit. Send him to /xivg/ where he belongs. Why have the mods spend the past 2 and a half years refusing to apply the rules to this constant rule-breaker? Why even have board rules, then? Why are they protecting this one faggot? Does he have dirt on the jannies? Is he a janny himself?

>>719228708
I can see that hat being popular, people already used the similar looking Neo-Ishgardian one a lot.

>>719228708
That captain coat actually looks fucking rad

Post lalas with Big Black male Roegadyns.

Who the fuck even plays Roe I thought they all became even more blatantly gay Hroths

>>719228738
yeah it definitely needs texture/shader upgrades
maybe by 9.0 they'll finally finish upgrading everything to DT shaders
>>719228769
yeah it does kind of remind me of that concept from HL Alyx for a mounted solder where the horse has its head totally replaced

>>719228826
Users have added context to this post:

Female lalas are for lovingly bouncing on my white highlander cock ONLY.

>>719228432
They dumped Susan Calloway for less, and Susan was much better at her job.

>>719228794
are you actually reporting his posts?
if you dont mods wont even see it.

>>719228708
honestly I hate this content and will never do it but I'd be lying if I didn't say the space captain outfit looks fucking awesome

>>719228912
>>719228769
The standard dhamel is one of the ugliest, most disgusting mounts in the game so this is a straight upgrade. I hate seeing the regular one in the world.

>>719228973
The outfits from the first area are sellable on the MB so these probably will be too, just buy them.

People don't use mods to cheat the mogstation items because there are better items created by modders

>game is dying uuooh subs have never been lower aaaauuhh
>go online
>43 people in queue in front of me
>sprouts absolutely everywhere
>running around questing in the world
>whole place feels alive and lived in and no zones are empty
>dungeon queues pop instantly even as DPS

If this is what the game looks like when it suffers then I hope it stays like this.

>>719215336
>Some may say that Square Enix is to blame for trying to make money by demanding that players spend extra on optional items. We operate our servers and data centers twenty-four hours a day, three-hundred-sixty-five days a year with the hope that our players can enjoy a reliable gaming experience. Currently, global inflation is taking its toll at a rapid pace, driving up server electricity costs, the cost of land, and even the price of servers themselves. We do not want to increase subscription fees for players, if at all possible─but keeping our game running requires sufficient income. If we start creating a deficit, FFXIV may no longer be able to operate. This is an example of damage dealt to the services we provide.

lmao so they are adding mogstations items just because "costs"

>>719229072
Truuuuuuuuuu

>>719228708
I am so tired of modern slop you have no idea. Just nuke everything before 7.0 already and make this XIV-2 the Phantasy Star killer.

>>719229150
Yes, that's correct. The only thing Yosh seems to forget is that the game has always generated a surplus of money, but they throw that money at a ton of other shit (a lot of which bombs). He's not wrong, but he is being Todd Howard levels of creative with the reasoning.

>>719228432
I dont want drama because I'm not a retard but I want whoever is now on localization, specifically the character dialogue to get replaced, they all feel like they got the Veilguard therapy speak filter pisses me off, these characters used to rise up against injustice but now they're all "they use human souls as a cheap resource but we cant judge a foreign kingdom for their beliefs uwu"

>>719229247
>"they use human souls as a cheap resource but we cant judge a foreign kingdom for their beliefs uwu"
That's on the story writer, Hiroi.
The localizer writing the shitty dialogue however is Kate who writes every single person in the same 'voice' so you can't tell who the fuck is speaking just by reading anymore like you could when Koji was around.

Consider the current storyline where the kid with cyber aids is cured by the porxies, and then the robot shoots his mom.
If this had been the old writing team, the mom would be fucking DEAD. They weren't afraid of putting some misery and unfairness into the world, because it motivated you to fight for justice and made the threats more real.

Now the only people who die are randoms and men like the highlander guy who got turned to dust (offscreen). They really need to get their balls back and not be afraid to have some sad moments that reminds us we can't protect everything.

>>719229565
>lady is bleeding out on the floor
>"it's okay, they didn't hit anything vital!"
>geodude gets dusted because he forgot to bring more than two bullets
Fire
Hiroi

>>719229619
>winks at camera, shrugging with a debonair smile
>"Guess I'm... between a rock and a hard place"
>dies

>two towers
>two funerals
>all dem hamboigahs
The Hiroi special baby

5.5 was also close to 8 months, back when the patch cycle was under 4 months.

4.5 was just under 6 months.
2.5/3.5 were 5 months, but back when patch cycles were just over 3 months.

Our regular patch cycle now is 4.5 months so we can toss those out entirely.
7 months just isn't realistic.

>>719229150
I wonder how many "marers" are going to buy mogstation items now vs the ones that are going to abandon the game

>>719229816
Good, I'm only starting the crescent now.

>what would the implications be? Player A (with their title and gear earned from hours of concerted effort with their friends) and Player B (with their mod-derived gear), are now on a level playing field, so to speak. This development may not concern Player B, but for Player A, it considerably negates the cooperation, time, and effort invested, not to mention the pride they might have felt in their achievement
C&D EVERY SINGLE COMBAT MOD

yoshida just said this
>(And one more thing: for those wondering what comes after the Japan Fan Fest...while I can't give any details just yet, rest assured you won't have to wait long.)
Clearly damage control because there is no way they are releasing the expansion in December if the fanfest is in November, January 2027 is probably the best date.

>>719229830
Don't fall into the retarded thinking that people who use mods don't use the store. Even if you're a tricked out modbeast you still want to look cool to the console peasants, so people buy things they like and raid for gear to show off. But their friends they connect with get to see their "real" appearance. It's not at all a "one or the other" question and never was. I for example only use mods to have real eyebrows on my highlander and better teeth on NPC's instead of the regular piece of cardboard they have in their skulls. Doesn't stop me from buying a chocobo barding because I want my boy looking fresh.

My semi-static has been stuck on M8S for the past several weeks. We finally saw UV4 yesterday and are basically near the end of the fight.

But holy hell man, we have to PF healers and it's a total crapshoot on whether or not they do Millenial Decay correctly. So many people don't go in the center if they don't have spreads and it's insane. Why not do the strat that makes it 10x easier? Beyond that there's very few issues with P1 consistency, it's just getting to UV4 again.

>>719230043
How fresh?

>>719230043
Yep, every femoid I know mods the shit out of their characters and still buys all the cash slop they could have put on with glamourer anyway.

>>719230103
>So many people don't go in the center if they don't have spreads and it's insane. Why not do the strat that makes it 10x easier
Because the PF standard is the static positions.

I'm gonna be honest, I thought 1 month sounded long but then I went back and looked at my prog history and a couple friends' prog histories (all what I would consider kinda average midcore raiders/statics, not super fast but not uber casual & all on patch) and P3 took 1-2 months (to be fair, multiple statics in this sample blew up at P3 prog lmao so the numbers get a little messy). Now that's the time from first UR pull to first Darklit pull and solo sims weren't out for every mechanic at that time, but I think P3 prog is two kind of finicky mechanics plus still building P2 consistency. Ideally people should be practicing a lot in the solo sim but... sometimes that just doesn't happen lol and sometimes people have a harder time translating sim practice in game for whatever reason.

On the other hand, if you feel like your static is going way slower than you personally feel capable of progging, it doesn't hurt to at least look around for groups around Darklit prog. Can also be worth seeing if there are any patterns in the wipes (are people having trouble aiming the beam baits properly? Are they just zoning out and forgetting to bait something? Do people keep getting gazed?) to see if there are any adjustments to callouts or something the group could make to increase consistency.

I have not played the 7.3 story yet was it good?

>>719230267
It was passable.

>>719230267
Yeah, it’s alright. New villain is a highlight.

>>719230301
Calyx is fucking boring as shit

>>719230301
>New villain is a highlight.
Calyx is fucking dogshit. He's a "smart" character written by a retard. His grandmaster plan was to summon a primal against a primal slayer even after getting all the info on the WoL.

>>719208632
it's mog station only right? this is not in the game right?

>>719225947
Not only was finding out what blue mage and limit job actually meant underwhelming but also finding out that most of the spells are bulk junk but I also need to lug around spellcaster gear for it, only to do old content but as a blue mage was a
>why tf is this even in the game?
and
>so blue mage is NEVER going to be a real job because this hunk of dogshit is there to fill space and waste time? cool.

>>719230124
Mix of dancer and shinryu's barding. Chocobo dyed pure white so the red stands out more.

>>719230345
>His grandmaster plan was to summon a primal against a primal slayer even after getting all the info on the WoL.
I mean the WoL won because Sphene made some lame speech that people not despair, not because the WoL is inherently anti-primal or something

>>719230359
It's from the PVP battle pass

>>719230345
Necron’s whole thing was that it *couldn’t* be put down permanently. It was, in fact, made to be a hard WoL counter. It fails only because SPHEEENE tells the citizens of Alexandria to LEEESEN TO MEE

>>719230337
You're expecting Zenos when you should be thankful he isn't Zoraal Ja.

I tried getting my buddy to play the game by starting a new character with him, and it has not gone well. The story is filled to the brim with time wasting filler quests, and the lack of abilities given make the early game combat very boring quickly.

I tried to explain that the game is much better later on, but convincing someone to grind boring quests, with boring combat, and little else is challenging. They need to shrink the gaps between abilities and drastically cut down on the number of quests where you talk to people 20 feet from the quest giver.

The game is beautiful, the world feels alive, and the sense of progression after you get a decent amount of abilities is pretty good imo.

>>719230345
Primals are the most versatile tool imaginable, literally. Because they can be literally anything. Elidibus was also a primal and won against WoL without Emet's asspull. WoL does not autokill primals. The plan only failed because Hiroi is a fucking retard who ignores lore and forgot his own rules for Necron in the same fucking scene.

>>719230409
umm actually chocobos can't be the special dye colors like pure white

>>719230441
>>719230483
so next time just repeat the same primal but keep Sphene aside lol?

>>719230521
Zeno was awful, especially in EW when he acted like an annoying kid trying to get his big brother's attention

>>719230479
>battle pass
Nigger are your stupid or do you just not know what words mean? It's free if you do enough PvP to rank up. There's no "battle pass".

>>719229145
And what instance did you get on the queue pop anon
I finally dropped my sub because all I ever got in leveling, trial, raid and ar was 60 and under shit for months in a row
And 90% of those sprouts are just people leveling their alts

>>719230601
nigger that's what literally everyone calls it because that's what it is

>>719230523
the world is sterile and has no reason to exist outside of the MSQ which is exactly nothing but talking to npcs to trigger slow padded cutscenes.
said MSQ keeps bloating up with every passing day, making entry into the game more of a problem.

>>719230601
It's a battle pass.

>>719230563
He's as white as he can get, and certainly whiter than (You)

>>719230345
Hello my Name is Daichi Hiori i cantu writu good Storyu because i wantu self insertu meyu

How did we go from this to >>719208632?

>>719230673
Probably my skin tends to go a rather ugly pink

>>719230713
Well you see Tifa wore a miniskirt in another game so it's fine.

>>719230642
>>719230665
A battle pass is DLC you pay for in addition to the game itself. This shit is part of the main game and everyone can do it.
You're both absolutely retarded and nobody with an IQ over 20 calls it that.

>>719226778
>job do good number so it's okay
fuck yourself NIGGER

>>719230587
Essentially. Calyx had a Primal that could resurrect itself infinitely and planted it on a near-infinite source of aether, and even made sure that its tempered were out of immediate reach. Then Sphene cut the Primal off from its source of prayer, so Necron couldn’t piggyback off of their fear of death to sustain itself.

>>719230713
And the best part is that when you do frontlines, you get the currency to buy that set in addition to getting the ugly ass hovercraft shoes one.

>>719229909
I definitely agree that anything that touches gameplay mechanics or systems should be banned
Dalamud's devs need to step up and start taking more proactive steps to block mods that constitute actual cheating
Anything that interfaces with actual gameplay mechanics or systems should be hard banned completely
Even UI shit should be banned honestly
Cosmetic mods for your characters ONLY, nothing else

>>719230781
No retard, a battlepass is when you earn exp to level up through the pass by playing the game. What you're thinking of is what games usually call a deluxe upgrade for the battlepass or something along those lines. Battlepasses in those games have both free rewards and rewards only available if you purchase the deluxe upgrade. It's a battlepass and you should stop blabbering about shit you don't know.

But was Calyx right?

>>719230850
No you don't, that's a Feast armor set that is unavailable

Calyx analyzed the fuck out of us but still somehow forgot that we have the power of BULLSHIT on our side
seriously, villains need to start planning around us

how do i challenge friend to triple triad? every time i try to do it in a city it just says player unable to play triple triad at a time, even though the notification log says TT matches available in current area

>>719210596
Gee it's almost as if it's never been an issue of raiders or casuals but devs who don't want to work as much on a game. This game's population is so against actually calling out the fucking devs.
>>719210941
refer to above and realize both parties are getting fucked.
>>719230601
>>719230781
>this battle pass system isn't a battle pass
Lmao retard. If your condition is having to pay for it then show me how you can do it for free without paying the monthly sub or why the Warframe devs call their free battle pass a battle pass even though it doesn't require paying to get the rewards.

>>719230523
>>719230662
People skim past the convienance that the longer the MSQ gets the more SE makes money off of people that pay to skip it.

They have a negative incentive to make the msq shorter and easier to play because they want you to give up and buy a Tales of adventure

This is a huge problem with tales existing in the first place, you have to believe they aren't gonna manipulate the situation to make more money.

>>719217665
God you are an actual fucking retard, if you read that whole thing and understood "oh he doesn't like people usişng ultimate weapons" you are genuinely too retarded to function, fucking moron.

I really liked 7.3, but the whole state of the game from here on feels like one big “maybe.”

>Maybe the story will get better
>maybe raids will get worse
>maybe jobs won’t change?
>maybe the content formula will stay?
>maybe dungeons won’t change?
>maybe no more puzzles in the msq?
>maybe the scions will continue to be cardboard?

It feels like we’re back in 2.2 in terms of quality. Some really good raids and a story just starting to take off, except at 7.3 we have 10 years of hindsight.

>>719230927
Design a primal that constantly teleports everything within a mile radius into the nearest volcano.

>>719230858
>Even UI shit should be banned honestly
And how do you feel about crafting plugins that help you determine which of your 50 buttons to use when synthesising some pigs ass sandwiches or the Triple Triad mod that suggests plays so you have a better chance against absolute bullshit fucks like Cheatingway that forces you to win upwards of 30 times to get his cards?

>>719230994
this is xiv so first the primal would harmlessly show how the mechanic works before doing it to the wol letting them to know how to avoid it

>>719230930
they need an active deck, to not be set to busy, and to not be on the free trial

>>719231028
Is there any real difference between crafting plugins and just dropping your stats into a calculator that spits out a macro to use for a craft

>>719230932
It's only a battle pass if it's something you buy separately from the game, and that's not the case. Sit the fuck down, don't try to lecture others about shit you don't know dick about, then KYS for being so retarded.

>>719231094
The crafting plugin can do faster inputs.

>>719231114
>It's only a battle pass if it's something you buy separately from the game
No it's not. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. I can log onto Marvel Rivals and look at my BATTLEPASS that I have not paid for at all. Are you thinking of a SEASON pass?

>>719230954
they will lose more players to it.
imagine offering a game and then admitting that you have to pay extra because the forced single player part is too bloated and dragged out.
most people will just tell you to fuck off.

>>719231164
>marvel rivals uses the term wrong so I'm right
I'll say it again: KYS

>>719231114
>It's only a battle pass if it's something you buy separately from the game
Explain why the Warframe devs call their battlepass a battlepass even though it's free for everyone, requires no buy in and works exactly like every other battlepass in existence?

>>719231210
Every single live service game uses the term that exact same way. You don't have to buy a battlepass because all battlepasses in every game have free rewards. You only buy the deluxe upgrade to unlock additional rewards. You're still leveling up through the tiers whether you have purchased it or not. You don't know what a battlepass is.

>>719230994
we've had a couple of fights where you get teleported away mid-battle
it didn't work out...

>>719231164
>>719231210
A Battle Pass is a progression system, often in video games, where players earn rewards by playing the game and completing challenges to level up.

>>719231269
It only didn't work for Elidibus because of the Emet asspull. If he'd dunked WoL in a volcano instead of the Rift he would have won.

more astronauts outfits

>>719231172
Did wow lose money to this? Because it's a million times more egregious there. If you start out at level 1 you're looking at several weeks of completely dead content in dead zones to catch up. You're practically expected to buy level boosts and worse yet, that game is designed for you to make alts if you ever want to play another class and then buy boosts for those too.
But they seem to retain players in spite of it, huh?

>>719231114
You're retarded. Even Fortnite, the king of fucking Battle Passes, doesn't label its premium skin packs that come with a challenge system as a "battle pass" because they know the battle pass is a progression system and not just a basic quest system that's on a premium.

>>719231297
he probably knew Azems and volcanoes have a history kek

Are the gooners mad enough to break off and create private servers yet?

>>719231304
Hoverboard: Cool
Cyber camel: Okay
Worker(?) suit: Lame, maybe fun as individual pieces
Captains suit w/ hat: Fucking baller as shit
Final grade: A-

>sub model
>sub model for app made to work with the game
>cash shop
>pay for extra retainers
>battle pass
>expansion costs
Man this game is something

>>719231319
thats not the case in WoW at all though.
they broke up the linear leveling structure ages ago.

and even before they did that they kept lowering the exp required for past expansions and didnt force people to play 100% of an expansions story. you could level up by running dungeons or PVPing or even gathering herbs and when you reached a high enough level you could just fuck off to the next area. you could even feasibly progress from start to endgame with friends, which is near impossible in FF14 thanks to the MSQ structure.
WoW has never been as rigid as FF14 is.

>>719231172
I'd imagine there are three people buying them, people that give up on the msq to play with their friends, people that bought all the things to play and then don't see the little bit extra that the tales cost as that big of a deal and people that are so deeply invested in the game that they start a new character.

I'd imagine they make enough money of of all three of those and they would make less money off of each if the msq was shorter, more engaging and less grindy to get through.

Maybe I will be able to get a Fanfes ticket this time considering that so many people have quit the game.

>>719231319
lol what, it takes less than a week of solo questing to hit TWW expansion content, less than a day if you just spam dungeons

>>719231094
>>719231128
The plugin can also make choices on the fly to avoid getting screwed by an Excellent proc on the action before Byregot's Hand.
Also, there was a macroable Cosmic Exploration mission with a duration that was too short for the macro with normal but the plugin could fit every action in its automatic mode.

>>719231595
you cant prove it either way so its just in the domain of feelings.
but its not like SE are known for making the best business decisions every time.
to me, the end goal of an MMO as a publisher is to bind players to it so that the monthly subscriptions keep rolling in.
sabotaging that early binding period for cheap cashins with the skip just doesnt sound like the way to go for me.

but I dont think the intent is fully malicious anyways. the MSQ is a highlight for many when its current. the problem just rears its head when its all piled on top of itself after a literal decade of content.
its a structural problem that has been introduced from ARR and they simply never changed anything because of a lack of foresight and possibly fear of shaking things up too much.
I doubt that any ARR dev thought about how the MSQ would become a problem over a decade later at the time when they first designed it.

>>719231510
And all that because the story in wow doesn't matter. Nobody fucking cares, especially not the writers. XIV can't do that because the story matters. It's abysmal right now but it doesn't change the fact that it's one long connected story and you can't just skip it and end up with no idea what's going on out who anyone is. The fact that any first timer who buys a job level pays to miss out is actually very karmic. You either play as intended and get a good story, or you pay to skip and end up clueless. Seems fair.

>>719231510
>they broke up the linear leveling structure ages ago.
when has wow EVER required people to play through dead content from old expansions, even?

>>719231873
this is cope

>>719231507
>battle pass
Show me where to buy this "battle pass" Anon.

>>719224882
>The old players who were there for the game are mad that these people came over and are posting their vile shit all over social media.
True. I just went back to FFXI. Even though you can do .DAT modding, it's a lot less popular overall. People just play the game instead of using it like a ERP chatroom. I've noticed a lot of the older MMOs people just play the game while the newer MMOs like retail WoW or FFXIV just use them as ERP sims. Probably just the difference in ages. FFXI is mostly 30+ users while FFXIV ranges from age 14 to 30+

>>719231679
Damn that's really great when 20 years of content is optional and not designed to be seen or experienced.

>>719231902
well you always had to do vanilla->TBC->wrath->cata etc. until they added timewalking
by wrath the vanilla world was already pretty empty and people bitched about leveling alts which is what lead to the cataclysm rework in the first place.
it was one of blizzards attempts at speeding up the leveling.

>>719231994
>moving goalposts THIS hard

>>719231994
yeah it's actually great when you don't have to play trudge through 800 hours of dead content alone before you can play with your friends or experience the endgame

>>719232030
>admits nothing in the game matters so you can just skip it all
>uuhhh m-m-moving the goalposts uuhhh
lol
lmao

>>719231828
Putting services like that on the shop also gets people used to spending money on the shop. I'd imagine most people that play the game haven't even touched the store or saw it and didn't even think about buying anything.

It isn't just a tool it's a gateway purchase.

I think the existance of tales acknowledges the MSQ as a problem because you can pay to circumvent it, what could that possibly be but a problem that you're paying to overcome?

People like the MSQ but it also limits the jobs you can get, where you can go, what you can do and the gear you can get. If for whatever reason you outlevel your expansion you can't really do anything with that, you're stuck having to do more msq or...nothing really.

>>719232071
>play with your friends
You don't have any.
>experience the endgame
The "endgame" is for the >1% that raids hardcore and that's not you.

>>719231304
looks great, the cat costume and and the capitan one

>>719231927
Didn't say you had to buy one, just said it had one. Don't tell me you're the retard that thinks purchasing is a requirement to be a battle pass.

>>719232159
diaper change on isle this thread please

>>719232190
HOLY

>>719232156
offering the skip as a paid service is obviously the cynical part, same with stuff like fantasias which required no actual effort to implement.
it could just be offered as a free thing for those who dont care about it but paying is the only option. at that point you can (and should) accuse them of creating a problem and selling you the fix, but imo offering the skip for free would also be inelegant.
you pointed out the problems and those have been around from the start. gotta do the MSQ to unlock melding, gotta do the MSQ to unlock the chocobo etc.
it would take a lot of effort to untangle it all from it and the work load keeps increasing with every expansion where they dont consider this issue.
they never "future proofed" their game in that regard and now its crushing them.

>>719232110
goalpost moving cope post

Runescape doesn't have this problem with quest creep because you can tackle different storylines whenever the fuck you want if at all required to do a piece of content you want to do and most of the content isn't even gated.
Common OSRS design W.

>>719232484
RuneScape also doesn't rely on its quests to carry the damn game

>>719232190
Yes. I think people should be forced to do things until they like them.
No I'm not kidding.

>>719232484
And then attend the mandatory daily pride parade to avoid getting banned.
Huge W, one of the biggest W's of all time frankly.

>>719232484
Building an MMO around one single continuous storyline is just an awful idea. It's always gonna reach a point where there's too much bloat and it takes too long to get to the part people want to play for new players to bother.

>>719232692
>Building an MMO around one single continuous storyline is just an awful idea.
Eventually went XIV is dying they will just swap it to B2P like GW2 or something. Since it already has trusts so it can be played like a single player game.

>>719232708
FFXI has trusts and its still subscription based.

>>719232708
Ain't no one buying this shit to play with bots lol

>>719232586
>he doesn't know that Jagex had to cancel their planned Pride events because of community backlash to their existence
Lmao

>>719232484
>doesn't have this problem
True, today I feel like slaying some Tormented Demons, let me just go ther-

>>719232729
>FFXI has trusts and its still subscription based.
yes because it still has like 20k players subbing. what happens went the servers costs more to run than the sub fees they get?

>>719232962
then they will kill it like all of their mobile games.

>>719221993
No they couldn't. That's stupid. You're stupid. He's stupid.

>>719222826
What does VRAM footprint have to do with anything here? It wasn't SE servers that bore that weight. And you're not a poorfaggot with some 3060 card, are you?

Fire kate fire hiroi

>>719230960
>the whole thing
I was only talking about glamourer, go outside

>>719233490
Holy fucking shit BAAAAAASED BASED BASED!!!!

>>719215336
He has no fucking idea what he's talking about, none of the plugins rewrite any game files, they are overlays that work independently of the client and work "on top of it", without modifying existing software or replacing anything. It's why you can turn all of it off without restarting the game. In addition his idiotic example of "another player seeing someone using an ultimate weapon they didn't earn or a cash shop item they didn't buy" is fucking stupid. No one gives a fuck, because it's pretty fucking easy to figure out who is real and who is fake and if someone pisses you off you just add them to blacklist and break the pairing if you use a sync.

>>719233762
He's just giving examples.

>>719233838
His examples are erroneous, stop running damage control for a faggot that inflicted the abomination that was Dawntrail on his paying customers. If I could ask for a refund, I would.

>>719233879
They're just hypotheticals.

>>719233962
You're a deflecting faggot that saves these embarrassing images on his computer.

>>719233991
Don't have a cow man

>>719233762
Oh the modbeasts are furious

>>719234267
Good, fuck ‘em

>>719234267
how furious are they?

>>719213745
To be fair, I was mostly fine with the formulaic design for a while, but when I got sick of it I just moved on to something else. I think XIV being very stable is fine, but it also isn't going to keep me around full time unless the story was great to make up for it.

Now that the original arc is over, it's a great time to take a break, play other things, and come back when things get good again. Story is the heart of XIV (And FF as a whole, or at least it should be), the game lives and dies on that alone. The gameplay itself is serviceable otherwise, but that alone won't keep people playing.

>>719234296
Yeah
>>719234417
Extremely furious

>>719233762
Kill yourself you tourist loser

>>719232484
I would play Runescape if all my stats started at level 50 and I had a full set of trimmed armor. I don't want to be stuck in early game loops for 500 hours before I can start to explore the world.