Thread 719218079

FF IX isn't a good game.

I agree.

>>719218079 (OP)
Why?

Yea, it's great.

i agree but the aesthetic is unmatched
the gameplay itself is pretty bad even for an FF or jrpg

>>719218079 (OP)
But it's a good Final Fantasy game.

It's a good game but FFs from FF5 to FF8 and FF10 are better. FF9 is slow because of the slow battle transistons and animations. It also has less customization. Good experience, bad replayability

>>719218079 (OP)
It's a bit all over the place. FF7 is more coherent and concrete. But FF9 is an example of good game programming, game design, character design, sound art and gaphics 2D/3D art. A high quality product.

>>719218223
Because the gameplay is just bland. The game doesn't offer a reason for you to play it instead of just watching or reading the game. Though there are good things about the game, they're almost uniquely to the story in my opinion

>>719218380
Definitely agree

>>719218613
Customization just makes every character feel the same. Also, the Materia in FF7 also wastes your time since it constantly forces you to switch party members so you have to redo it all the time. You can mod out the slow battles in FF9 which can't be done easily for 7's Materia

>>719218380
It's not so much that the gameplay itself is bad, is that it tried to put it back to 4 characters when the combat animations are drastically more delayed in the 3d classic Final Fantasy games and it slowed things to an absolute crawl as they all wait for each other to finish their long animations.
There's a good reason 7 and 8 were at 3 characters in the active party.

>>719218079 (OP)

It's boring as shit. Only women like it because OMG VIVI SO CUTE OMG

>>719218079 (OP)
I disagree. I like FFIX.

>>719218079 (OP)
Correct.
It's SOVL

>>719218079 (OP)
[opinion]

>>719219013
7 and 8 would probably work with 4 party members, at keast animation-wise, It's kinda weird how sluggish everything in 9 is when 10 again has really snappy animations.

it's my favorite final fantasy desu

>>719218079 (OP)
Of the Final Fantasy games I've played its probably the one I remember the least of what actually happens. I would say I remember about 30% of the plot when with other FF games I'd say at least half of it I remember.

>>719219164
9 is a PSX game and 10 is a PS2 game. not that wierd

>>719219147
holy fuck, install the mod... this looks horrible

>>719219164
>It's kinda weird how sluggish everything in 9 is when 10 again has really snappy animations

It's easy to forgot 9 is a Playstation game, pushing that thing to the limit, you can compare it to FF7 on the same console. X is a PS2 title.

>>719218079 (OP)
Sakaguchi's favorite Final Fantasy, and a love letter to all the classic-style Final Fantasy games before it

>>719219245
>installing AI slop

NONOONONONO

>>719218079 (OP)
I don't have any nostalgia for the actual gameplay, but still have a lot of love for the atmosphere and characters.

>>719219360
nta and typically I'd be with you, but the Moguri mod is legit very good.

>>719219291
But 7 and 8 generally have animations that don't overstay their welcome (not counting things like kotr and eden obviously). Even the normal attack animations in IX are ass.

>>719219464
>Even the normal attack animations in IX are ass.
Zidane's normal attack is like 2 seconds long

>>719218983
The materia menu has sub menu to switch whole sets between characters. Not many players know about it. Sane with Remake and Rebirth. FF8 also has the Switch option to switch GF, Junctions and Spell libraries and again, not many players knew about it.

I tend to view players like you and them bit dumb and any opinions they spout are disregarded

>>719219360
The normal PC version has a shitty bilinear filter on it which is 100x worse than AI upscaling

My favorite thing in Moguri is the ability to turn on a feature to make it so party members and enemies won't wait for others to complete their animation before they can take their action. It will all happen right as soon as the option is selected.

Makes combat flow so much better.

>>719219582
>Not many players know about it.
really? I thought it was obvious

>>719219582
>The materia menu has sub menu to switch whole sets between characters.
That is completely useless considering characters have different amounts of slots and different connections and you probably want a few different ones on different characters. I think only dumb people would use that.

>>719219013
to its defense for how the animations are (i actually have more of an issue with how long it takes to load and how the game obfuscates it by fading to black and panning around for 10 seconds) as a kid i was so impressed by the animations themselves that it didnt often feel like a bother to just take it slowly and bask in the glory

sure it gets repetitive after awhile but we were really simple creatures back then idk

>>719219657
Google "ff7 materia switch". The results are all about people finding out about it too late. Same with lots of anons.

>>719218079 (OP)
I agree. It's just the high-fantasy aesthetics that prop it up. You take that away and you get something really bland. Vivi is the only likable thing about it. Maybe Beatrix too if you're fixated on her for being an attractive woman.

>>719219635
>My favorite thing in Moguri is the ability to turn on a feature to make it so party members and enemies won't wait for others to complete their animation before they can take their action
That's a big thing that makes X flow so well. You can input commands while the previous command plays out.

>>719219719
I have already disregarded your opinions. Cut your losses and walk away.

rat sexo

>>719218079 (OP)
Yeah. Easily the worst FF of the PS1-PS2 Era. FF9 has some charm, but the overall story and gameplay are mediocre.

>>719219891
8 exists, so no

>>719218079 (OP)
You're right, because it's a great game.

hardly having any party customization until the final disc is pretty ass

>>719220152
I like 8 more for sure. Just the music alone ranks it higher than 9.

>>719220152
Triple Triad alone makes it a much better game than 9

>>719220152
8 has better gameplay over 9. 8 has better battles, better limit breaks, better item and resource acquiring. Better card game. I have replayed 8 dozens of times while 9 i have only replayed once. 9 is good experience but it simply isn as good as the others.

With my first girlfriend, we were both into FFs, I would sing Melodies of Life after we had anal sex and her ass made the blarp sounds afterwards. She didn't like it one bit. I may have ruined the song for her.

8 and 9 are the essential pleb filters.

>>719220373
>8 has better gameplay over 9
no
>8 has better battles
debateable
>better limit breaks
Yes, but 9's is outright horrible, so not exactly a high bar.
>better item and resource acquiring.
No
>Better card game.
Easily, yes.

8 also has better music I'll add.

There's a lot of weird revisionism these days with people pretending that 8 was good out of nowhere, and not generally seen as a great card game with a mediocre RPG attached to it.

>>719218079 (OP)
Roblox isn't a good game. Neither is Fortnite.

ATB is a shit variation of turn based combat. There, I fucking said it. Don't ever go back to that battle system. Stick to turn based like X, please.

>>719220618
People were disappointed with FF8 because they had just experienced FF7 and expected more. Me too, even though i did like FF8, it felt letdown from ff7. But after witnessing FFs from 12 and onwards, it made me appreciate FF8 more. FF8 is fast to pick up, offers replayability and entertainment with gaming the systems and your options. It's a good game. It simply suffered from the expectations after 7.

And totally agree with the card game. Me and my high school mates would spend our time after school playing the online version Triple Triad X. Even those who didn't play FF8 would get in the hype train and start their own accounts to play the card game. Shit was sweet.

>>719220818
Yep. I love that some of the older games have mods that turn the game practically turn-based.
Makes them a bit easier, but they are already so easy you hardly notice.

>>719218079 (OP)
Imagine designing that cover and those characters and saying yep, looks good

>>719220984
The games always had option to set ATB to Wait when in command submenus. Another thing many players didn't know about, along with setting the ATB gauge speed to fast.

>>719221026
In europe we had the white bg with the logo and title. No characters. I always felt sorry for americans having to suffer the inferior box art

>>719220962
I skipped to the end. Putting all the 13 games that high made me disregard the rest of the video. That said, FFV being ranked so highly is deserved. Best FF before 3D.

>>719221104
That's also how we knew that 13 was shit when they forced lightning on the cover.

>>719220948
People got fed up with 8 because the Draw system is annoying, the systems are not interested or good, and the story is pure Nomura bullshit.
It being after 7 just made it seem worse than it actually was, which is mediocre.
Still possibly the best soundtrack in the series. Burned all the music onto a cd and would listen to it when i had a long drive

>>719221156
I borrowed 13 from my friend who did say i won't like it. Next time I saw him, he just nodded and said "told you so". I did like the battle theme and Sunleth Waterscape but dropped it at the big pope boss. FF12 I dropped around some tower/tall light-house thing.

>>719221048
I know about wait and always use it. But take a look at FF7's true wait mod. It stops all ATB when a player or enemy ATB gauge is filled. That's the kind of wait function I've always wanted.

>>719221026
>Imagine designing that cover and those characters and saying yep, looks good
Because 9 was designed to be a throwback to the older fantasy Final Fantasy games (and pretty specifically FF1), even with the base starting party being a Fighter (Steiner), a Rogue (Zidane), a White Mage (Dagger/Garnet), and a Black Mage (Vivi).
It had a very "fairy tale storybook" style to its designs.

>>719221178
>People got fed up with 8 because the Draw system is annoying
On my first playthrough i too thought that it was mandatory to keep drawing. On later playthroughs i was wiser. I'm sorry for any anons who still think draw grinding is something they should do

>>719221178
You don't really need to draw at all besides from bosses. And back in FF8 times Nomura was still mostly a character designer it's Nojima that you're angry about.

>>719221289
>But take a look at FF7's true wait mod
No, I won't.

>>719221153
Would you have preferred if he just made the same list as every journo and e-celeb?
I respect the genuineness of it, and the well argumentation

>>719220818

X-2 was the peak of ATB and it actually works great there. Too bad the game itself is trivially easy so you never really get to utilize the system.

>>719221048
Wait mode sucks. I still have to deal with the dumb CD meter.

>>719218876
The gameplay is good though. Bosses are tough, the skill systems helps to differentiate weapons outside of their raw stats, and there are a lot of sidequests

>>719221471
Tell me about the good side quests apart Chocobo hot&cold and finding the world map treasures with riding the chocobo

>>719221469
Set the battle speed to Fast like normal people

>>719221430
No.
But I only watch videos that validate my opinions.
I have no interest in his opinion, I just want others to confirm that my opinions are truly superior.

>>719221583
Collecting Stellazio coins, Mog mail, Viewing ATEs in specific sequences, Tetra Master, hunting down friendly mobs to give gems to, finding Ragtime Mouse. Even just talking to NPCs after certain events yields unique dialogue and short sidestories. The world oozes with soul and detail

>>719218079 (OP)
finally played it, didn't really like it

>>719221942
Ok I give you Stellazio coins. But Mog mail, tetra master, ragtime mouse and friendly monsters are shit filler with no concrete reward other than making Ozma managable. ATE is not side quest.

>>719222061
Sidequests are for fun, not necessarily rewards

>>719222840
Tell me what's fun about the friendly monsters and ragtime mouse

>>719218079 (OP)
I don't like it cause I hate the artstyle, 8 is better

Which RPG video game would be ideal for me?
>RPG without magic
>RPG without fairies and without magical creatures
>RPG without wizards
>Anti-Pokemon RPG
>RPG where you never have to grind
>RPG where leveling is ultra-instant
>RPG where it's impossible to get stuck
>I play on emulators for: sega Dreamcast, PSP, Sega Genesis (Mega Drive), and PlayStation 1

No FF is a good game. You're lucky if you get a half-decent movie from the cutscenes. Dogshit franchise, the OG moviegame.

>>719218079 (OP)
Correct, it's a GREAT game.

>>719218323
tpbp

I like 9s gameplay

>>719223017
Finding them and getting good rewards like the Rings

FF is only popular because it's the first vidya RPG that stuck around in the west when there wasn't anything like it, just like how DQ is popular in Japan in the same way. There is nothing worthwhile about either other than brand recognition. They are the McDonald's of video games.

>>719224519
Some of Uematsu's compositions like FF7's main theme are genuinely great

I like the way you learn abilities

>>719218079 (OP)
>Walk 2 steps
>Stupid ass battle animation
>One shot enemies
>Walk 2 steps
That alone pissed me off enough to not wanting to play it anymore. I fucking hate random battles, especially when I have to wait 30 seconds every time a battle starts

>>719224851
It's great a grear system for speedrunners who aim for excalibur 2 runs or for completionists who likes to grind. It really makes you pay attention when new gear is available through shops or chests

Hello. Let me ravage your ass today

>>719224945
Moguri mod fixes that

>>719225079
Meant for>>719224925

>>719224978
Beat Ozma with half of my party accidntally wearing the beach clothes with no stat ups.

Zidane's Thievery, Steiner's Shock, Freya's Dragon Crest and Quina's Frogdrop deal 9999 damage. It's pretty telling that FF9 fails even at super bosses.

>>719225079
Can I only fix the mobile UI with that? I don't care for the other "fixes"

>>719225152
>finishes every other side content
>WhY iS ThIS GaYMe So EaSY?
Gee retard, I wonder why.

>>719218079 (OP)
correct. it's a great game.

>>719218079 (OP)
*FF IX is the only good FF game.

>>719225161
Not sure what you mean by mobile UI, but I use it for the upscaled backgrounds https://sites.google.com/view/moguri-mod/home

>>719225475
The PC port is based on the android port which means that unmodded it has the shitty touch-input based UI. And in my opinion the Moguri AI-backgrounds look like shit so the only thing I would want from it is fixed combat menus.

>>719225609
Then you'll want to use the memoria mod with the ps1 version

>>719225720
Or i'll just emulate the PS1 version with none of the hassle.

>>719225271
FF9 is a good game. It simply isn't as good as the ones before it or FFX after it.

Sex with Freya

>>719225892
It's better than VIII and has more stuff to do than X

>>719225271
What's the point saving other side quests after beating the super boss? Where do you need the rewards from them if you already cleared the designated super boss?

>>719219013
7 and 8 are lightyears faster than 9 and it has nothing to do with one fewer party slot.

>>719225942
No. FF8 is more entertaining and gives player more agency and choice.

>has more stuff to do than X

Omega Ruins, optional Aeons, celestial weapons, monster arena, dark Aeons, Penance. Even just the Monster Arena offers more side content than all FF9's side content put together.

Good rage bait, made me reply.

>>719218079 (OP)
i'm actually playing through for the first time right now. almost at the Iifa tree. the gameplay is boring but the vibe and characters are nice. story has been somewhat interesting but nowhere near the level as ff6 and ff7. haven't played the others

9 > 7 > 12 > 8 > 10

There you go faggots

Everything about FF9 felt like it was designed to piss players off, it really felt like the beginning of Square's slow end…


I still don't get why it's highly rated.

>Slow as shit to the point of making ATB worse because the bars fill up during slow animations anyways.
>Equipment system is worse version of Espers
>Tetra Master is worse than Triple Triad
>Trance is the worst version of Limit Breaks
>You get no control of your party until 2/3 into the game where it still doesn't give you that much control. Party members get underleveled because of how much they get taken away.
>Story takes forever to become interesting and has very bad pacing issues
>All the good items and equipment locked behind mundane tasks such as tedious minigames and some are even missable as you progress

Overrated as shit.

>>719226061
I hated this shit. Glad MM let you speed up the game without speeding up the clock.

>>719225152
Outside of Shock had to purposefully grind up those skills to not be garbage so that's hardly an accident

>>719218160
FPBP

Best part of FF9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y4wI2cZOew

>>719219891
>The temples are just short cutscenes, and most of them are skipped battles
Did they ever mention about running out of budget?
Because towards the end, the game is really really bad.

>>719226057
>More agency and choice
Doesn't matter when the mechanics are completely broken
>reskinned bosses
Yawn*

>>719223308
Metal Ma-
>RPG where it's impossible to get stuck
Nevermind.

>>719218983
You can Materia Exchange equipped sets from the menu, This sort of reminds me of all the poor souls who don't realize you can swap junctions between characters in FF8

>>719226469
How do I do it? I'm playing FF7 right now. Disc 1 is almost over. I've been changing materia by going to the sort menu and doing things 1 by 1.

>>719226528
Go materia menu, go switch. Choose whole weapon set or whole armor set to switch with other character

>>719219013
>at 3 characters in the active party.

Heck even Chrono Trigger has an in-game story reason as to why you’re allowed only 3 party members which I find brilliant.

>>719226469
FF7R* games don't have this shit holy fuck, you need to swap materia every fucking half an hour and it's insanely tedious

>>719218079 (OP)
Shit characters, abysmal aesthetic choices and relations between characters.
It's so forgettable. And let it stay this way. It had no right to exist after VI, VII and VIII (yes, it was good, you got filtered if your IQ is below 120).

>>719226587
They do. It's same as in OG

>>719226623
Yes, but you can only swap one materia at a time, not everything!

The pre rendered backgrounds in this game ooze soul and love, the fact it's more laid back in its presentation and characters than the other games is a plus.

>>719226653
Use the button. i think it was triangle or square

>>719219164
>>719219230
There’s no denying it, FF9 on PS2 would’ve been interesting to see it benefit from the power of the new console. Heck you got people making mock-ups of Kingdom Hearts on PS1 which would also be cool and interesting to see

>>719226469
Yea, no shit. It's still not that good because characters have different slots and connections. You still have to do some manual tweaking. It could have easily been solved by letting you select preferred materia for each slot for each character and the game just dynamically changing it around depending on what you have that isn't currently being used.

>>719226765
I remember very clearly noticing the issues in FF9 and Chrono Cross, which looked nice but were probably really taxing on the ps1.

>>719226189
I think the game fell apart after the Mist Continent. The Outer continent is okay, but there's really 3 (4) unique locations. The continent where Oeilvert is has like 2. The north only have Esto Gaza. Which is kinda weird, because the game at the same time was pretty adamant that travelling outside the mist continent is super dangerous and barely anyone travelled outside. Yet there are people going on pilgrims and holidays to Esto Gaza to watch the Shimmering Isle.

>>719219464
Someone should make a WEBM of FF7 vs FF9 when it comes to a basic battle encounter include all the loading too. From when you get an encounter to when you regain control of the character in the overworld.

>>719226753
Nah man I finished the game a few weeks ago, it just isn't there.

>>719226596
VI is so ridiculously forgettable. I barely even remember a single thing about that game besides Kefka. Every single town looks exactly the same.

>>719219635
If your game needs that much modding to point of being decently enjoyable and bearable then it was never good to begin with.

>>719226567
omg
the "wpn" and "arm" text are options

>>719227041
[VictoryFanfare.midi]

>>719219891
>Active
>Time
>Event

I feel like I’m the only one that found these annoying, you seem to not be able to skip them and are forced to preview them to progress the story.

>>719227041
Um why does your game's text font look like it has been through some serious shit

>>719227120
Only the blue ones.
They're also great.

>>719220948
VIII could have the best gameplay ever in FF history and it would be shit game. Just from the whole orphanage nonsense which is up there with Star Ocean 3 as the dumbest plot twist in JRPG history.

>>719227120
No. They are 99% optional. There's few instances where it's just you choosing which order you want to see the current scene somewhere else

>>719227210
That's a story complaint, not gameplay complaint. I can understand FF8 story being too ludo for you.

>>719218079 (OP)
IX's biggest problem was that nothing you did fucking mattered. The AP system might have been good (I like it), but it didn't matter. You just use Eiko and Quina and you've beaten the game. I liked the story, I liked the characters, but I never felt like I had any real agency over the combat. The encounter rate was so obnoxious you were constantly in combat, and at no point was the combat ever challenging.

Yeah, but it gave us Freya, so it gets a pass

>>719227154
It's AavockESUI. I'm playing with mods.

>>719221178
>>719221338
Drawing Spells was important because Magic is basically your equipment and can affect your stats depending on what GFs a Character has junctioned to them. Then again enemies level up along with you so you can kinda customize your own difficulty

>>719218079 (OP)
I never liked how you got abilities from items in IX. I never liked how much the game pushed stealing on bosses. I like the option but the game had me reloading after I beat a boss because I didn't steal the item successfully. Tedious shit.

>>719221942
Too bad they won’t Remake FF9 for everyone to appreciate all those things you’ve mentioned.

>>719221178
Best music in the series, worst game in the series*

*I haven't played FF2

>>719218079 (OP)
Correct, Its a great game.

>>719227396
>Drawing spells

Hey, kid. Go to GF menu, choose abilities. You now see you can choose which ability you want GF to learn. In the very end there's Refining abilities. Choose them. Once you learn them, you can make your own spells without needing to draw. I guess you been letting your GFs learn the abilities in automatic order with learning all the useless GF HP ups and GF magic dmg ups.

>>719227461
I hate stealing in every FF. Feels like padding to prolong boss fights. With Moguri Mod, you can just set the steal rate to 100%. Crazy how short boss fights are like that.

>>719224978
What a lame looking Superboss, it’s got nothing on Shinryu, Magi Master or Emerald/Ruby Weapons

>>719227461
Nah, getting AP from items is the best part of the game. It forces you to make choices around optimal equipment vs learning abilities. One of the few times FF forces you to make choices outside of the materia system

>Take 5 steps
>Random encounter triggers
>40 seconds of the camera panning around the battle scene before you can do anything
>Choose attacks for everyone
>Enemy gets like six attacks in before your first attack
>Even regular attack animations take for fucking ever
>Another 20 second win animation plus the loot/exp screen
>Take 5 steps
>Repeat
>Takes an hour to get through each room of a cave
>Story is mid and cartoony anyway
>Everybody who had nothing else to play as a child applauds it

I'd rather play Bubsy 3D desu.

>>719227594
And it's really easy too. Use the 4 melee characters, and the boss doesn't last a minute.

>>719226057
Melodies of Life gets mogged by Eyes on Me

https://youtu.be/HNefNLOHVYk

FF9 is what every single Final Fantasy should be and its a damn shame they don't even bother.

>>719227624
>It forces you to make choices
My choice was to just grind AP and get everyone the skill. I never had to make a choice.

>>719226850
What's wrong with Chrono Cross? That game is fast as hell.

>>719227473
After seeing Nomura shit up 7R with his Time Jannies I'll settle for Memoria and whatever mods people make for it

>>719226342
>Did they ever mention about running out of budget? Because towards the end, the game is really really bad.

Like Xenogears Disc 2 levels of bad?

>>719218079 (OP)
easily the worst one untill 13

>>719227330
>Asses
>not sense

Don't tell me you use Firaga and Thundaga instead of Fire 3/Bolt 3???

>>719227815
Chrono Cross on original hardware ran at like 15fps in battle.

>>719226809
Basically you want the FF5 and FF6 Optimize option

>>719218079 (OP)
True, it’s the best.

FF9's music mostly sucked. The battle themes were big letdowns.
There are only a few good tracks. These are the best 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_353uJagE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_rbyp2UbK4

>>719227740
You mean visually? Cause it definitely looks like an evolution of how the old games looked like

>>719218876
What games do you play?

>>719227752
That sounds awful

That talks more about FF as a whole than FFIX.

>>719227461
Meanwhile in FF8 you can just draw whatever you need, in some rare instances draws could fail, and Mugging if so choose.

>>719228083
I remember when it released, people dismissed it because they wanted a more mature look, like FF8.

>>719227971
I'm coming off the pixel remasters, so yes. I don't have the nostalgia for the old shortened-to-fit spell names.

>>719227538
Already knew that! ;)

>>719227980
So the same speed as FF7?

>>719228178
Nah, I had Fast Forward.

>>719228220
>draw
Or you know, just refine what you need and want. Refining also lets you into a lot wider library of spells than just relying on what enemies have.

>>719228224
Or FF7
>DA $*%# ERF IS GON' DIE CLOUD WE HAVE TA DO SOMETHIN'
Damn, now that's cool.

>>719228319
You only got that after NG+ i think. Strange how you could ff a game the system struggled to run

>>719227461
>I never liked how much the game pushed stealing on bosses
Does the game push that or does the retarded fanbase push that? Everything you can steal can be gotten relatively quickly after or even sooner through chocograph.

>>719228401
You're thinking of Chrono Cross. I'm 99% sure it was the only Square game on the PS1 with a built in fastfoward (and slowmo).

>>719228281
Here's another tid bit: You can control your EXP gain by simply either Carding or petrifying the enemy. You still get AP but you don't get EXP. Diablos' Encounter-None skill is your friend when you want to avoid the random battles.

>>719218079 (OP)
It was the first FF I got bored with and quit. It was overly childish, and asking me to learn Moogle speak was the breaking point. It was just a terrible mishmash of references to better games.

>>719228416
It's compulsive need for anons. For example the fairy flute from Hilgigas has 1/256 to be stolen. If you don't steal it, you can simply buy it after 2 more hubs. Anons would still choose to sit at the battle trying to steal the flute instead of waiting couple hours to buy it

>>719228401
I didn't play it on PS1. I played it on PC.

>>719228442
Oh right. I was reading a different reply and got it mixed up with this one

>>719228480
>asking me to learn Moogle speak was the breaking point
that doesnt exist

>>719229208
Shh, don't ruin good ragebaiting

>>719228416
>Everything you can steal can be gotten relatively quickly after or even sooner through chocograph.
>blocks your path

>>719229232
>>719228506

>>719229232
1/256 steal chance or simply waiting to buy it in few hours?

>>719229232
>>719229394
Inb4
>But I NEED Esuna right now

>>719229232
I know the Fairy Flute is a meme but legitimately what does anyone need it for? It gives you haste and regen, but for the Iifa Tree you'll just have Eiko use life or cura on enemies and on early disc 3 you don't have her at all and you won't take her to Oeilvert because she can't do shit there either, at which point you can buy the flute.

>>719218079 (OP)
Correct it's one of the worst ones.

>>719229523
Autistic completionist compulsive need

Alright here's a boss with a good an rare steal.

>>719229505
Eiko is mainly useful for using Carbuncle. Emerald makes the summon give haste to the party. Whatever else you can get on her is a bonus

>>719218079 (OP)
Yeah, it's fantastic.

>>719229670
Can be synthesized

>>719224519
>McDonalds argument
I hate americans so much it's unreal.

>>719229741
>The Mythril Sword is no longer available to obtain at the end of the game
Retard.

>>719229676
Why use Esuna when you can simply use Remedy or status effect specified medicine item

>>719229787
What did you do with all your Mythril swords from earlier part of the game?

>>719229792
Yeah status healing items are cheap. It's best to save your mp for more impactful spells like area heals or phoenix

>>719229867
Sold them of course.
Surely you don't hoard items like a compulsion, right?

>>719229957
So you chose to sell your stuff and then got mad you didn't have them anymore? At least you learned your lesson.

>>719229769
4chan is the ESL heaven.

>>719229953
Me, I like to waste my MP trying to Mini, Silence or Confuse enemies

>>719230005
Well, no, I was just educating you that there are worthwhile steals from bosses. The Grand Armor is both good (literally Freya's best armor) and rare (can't be bought, easily missed without referencing a guide ahead of time).

How to fix FF9:

Freya, Garnet and Eiko hot spring scene
Freya romance path

>>719230342
Tell me the enemies and bosses you wouldn't have survived without the armor

>>719229957
I never sell my shit in FFIX precisely because I know I might need it for synth. Sounds like you just fucked yourself for no reason

>>719230562
I buy everything and one spare too for that

>>719230445
Changing the goalposts like that tells me you've lost so I won't bother with you anymore.

>>719230562
You don't understand. The money is limited resource. You can't just go walk around the forests for a while and return with more money than you left with. Of course he needs to sell all his inventory.

>>719230660
To me it sounded that you really needed that armor for the last dungeon of the game. I guess you didn't. It was just the dopamine of seeing numbers go up.

>>719230671
>The money is limited resource
Laughs in cotton robe

*crushes on you*

>>719218079 (OP)
It's the best.

>>719231352
People make fun of Kingdom Hearts but this outfit is fucking terrible

>>719227626
>>719227626
Play on emulator and you can hold down fast forward button

>>719231962
God I want to fuck Zidane

>>719233472
Eiko...

>>719221178
Draw is meant for using enemy magic against them, pretty much every boss with multiple targets will have a draw target meant to be used on the other. The spoony retardation/generalized autism of drawing to 100 every time you see new magic was never the intended experience

It's a way to filter out friends with bad taste

>>719218079 (OP)
It's always bothered me how the game doesn't really coalesce into anything meaningful.
The individual journeys (some of) the characters go on are good, but they don't really come together to torm some sort of grander narrative conclusion.
They just kill death and the game ends on a sort of wet fart, pretty weird for a Final Fantasy game.

>>719228416
The retarded fanbase. It's useful from the beginning when you have no equipment, but I usually stop doing it once I get to that solo battle with Zidane.

>>719234204
It's one of the more satisfying endings in the franchise desu

>>719234204
>>719234546
anyone seen that one Dagger waifu schizo recently?

>>719234546
I know FF doesn't always stick the landing with its endings but at least 6, 10, 13 and 15 are much better.

>>719218079 (OP)
It's too slow that alone ruins it

>>719234204
They saved they world and became NPCs. Or... maybe.. they always were NPCs in the first place. And it is Kuja who was the hero...

>>719226189
IMO it's just visually one of the neatest and most "fantastical" of all the 3D FF's there are, down to the weird and/or animalistic characters. Most other entries are varying angles of trying to look realistic which is where they fall apart for me.

I don't have time to read the whole thread, but was anyone negative about 7R in here?

>>719226596
Understanding junctions/etc. doesn't make the game any less boring. The story and its twist aren't exactly triple digit IQ either.

t. agrees IX has glaring flaws, gameplay included

>>719226189
I agree with a lot of this and yet it's still one of my favorites. It has an atmosphere unlike any of the other games, the absolute best soundtrack in the series and a really diverse cast of fun characters. I also really like the world, although I wish the last two continents would have been utilized better.

>>719231689
>but this outfit is fucking terrible
How? You get easy and fast access to her cunny by just pushing through her skintight bodysuit with your brat correcting adult cock. It's one of the best outfits in vidya history.

>game is slow
What is this ADHD zoomer complaint? Never once heard this in the 2000s.

>>719234686
To each their own I guess. I agree 10 has a really strong ending and both 13 and 15's are well done but those 2 games leave a lot more to be desired overall.

>>719235381
She's six years old, what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>719234204
this can be intepreted in a sexual manner
zidane is the kuja's future son
the whole game is allegory to zidane making his way to birth
final battles are sexual climax
the final scene after some time shows that zidane is ressurected, born again

>>719235381
>skintight bodysuit
That's not exposed skin? Ruined.

>>719219587
>playing the PC version
is this a meme? why would you play the godawful pc port for any FF game when you can just emulate?

>>719221026
it was legitimately the reason i never played it as a kid, i thought all the characters looked super retarded, especially after 8

I played it for the first time last month and it is a good game. It beats the fuck out of FF8 at least, which is impressive because I played FF8 on release so it should have a huge nostalgia factor. But more recent plays of FF8 have been miserable, it's really not a good game. FF9 I enjoyed from start to finish. There are definitely some rushed/incomplete parts starting on disc 3, but no unenjoyable.

>>719235413
We have gotten to the point with video games that people feel like they are "wasting their time" if they aren't playing *more*. You don't play for entertainment, you play to *get something*.
That is why people see Turn-based RPGs with random battles as "waste of time", because they could be playing some open world skinnerbox where you get to *do more*.

People want constant rewards and feeling of accomplishment from games. You shouldn't play games because you enjoy them, but because you feel like a winner. It's conditioning and social engineering by the past 10 years of gaming research. I don't wanna be the old guy complaining about "them kids", but many have been just taught that games should be certain way. Maybe when the "zoomer" generation grows up, they learn to appreciate older games like I did for NES and SNES and old PC games that I didn't grow up with.

>TL;DR(for you adhd's)
Games are considered waste of time these days if you aren't being fed constant rewards and action set-pieces.

>>719235462
First time on FFIX thread? Or /v/ in general?

>>719235527
It makes it hotter. Being nude in public isn't allowed, but having a skintight bodysuit is extremely ero on a loli.

>>719235413
it's the same shit with Pokemon d/p, super autism over game being slower than other entries

>>719218079 (OP)
>[Spoiler]Garnet[/spoiler] literally has character development OFF SCREEN
why do people act like this games story is good? all the characters are so one note you could code them in binary
>>719227120
none of these were interesting, at best a few were mildly chuckle inducing at best

>>719235538
it's easier to get alternate fantasy running through memoria than finding the right discs to patch it to

>>719235805
What part of her character did you fall to understand that need to be onscreen anon

if they are remaking it they should do it like this

>>719235413
I guess you didnt talk about it in 2000s. I played all PS FFs on release and FF9 slowness with battle transistons and actions was noticeable after having played 7 and 8.

>>719235173
Morning, Jimbo

>>719218079 (OP)
Ehh, i think its ok, just overrated AF because JRPG fans are stinky and annoying.

I like the soundtrack and the characters are pretty solid, the art style is decent.
Everything else is shit

>>719236072
>if they are remaking it
It will be ruined.
The soldier will get redesigned because their attire is too sexy and "unrealistic"

>>719236072
What the fuck is this architecture? it doesnt even make any sense even as a fantasy lane. look at those houses. lol You guys eat any slop they make, art design should be coherent, if you want to create something like this you must go out of your way to explain ingame universe the reasoning behind it.

>>719235930
>[spoilers]oh no! her mom is dead! her kingdom got nuked she has no agency! she feels so terrible she can't talk[/spoilers]
oh my! how will she get advance from this point?
>she disappears
>[spoilers]cuts her hair and said she got over it off screen[/spoilers]
are you and square retarded? this is peak writing?

Drinking with Lani

>>719236262
It's fun

>>719234610
>recently
that guy’s been around forever, he goes into a psychotic rage when you remind him that Garnet exclusively takes monkey dick and has Zidane’s tail wrapped around her every night

>>719236357
That would be fun

>>719236240
All Final Fantasies before FFX were released before CERO was created in Japan.
So a lot of stuff will be necessarily changed because of that, regardless of ""woke"" elements added into redesigns or other shit.
That scene with Sephiroth and the guys holding guns against him in the burning Nibelheim flashback in Rebirth come to mind. They just kept waving guns at him like clubsticks.
>>719236406
Zidane has a cat tail, so it's cat dick, not monkey. Maybe people think he's a monkey because he reminds them of Goku?

>>719236486
Zidane uses his tail to hang from railing in one scene where he's avoiding Garnet or Steiner's tantrum. It's a monkey tail

>>719228294
Yes. So if even FF7 had to cut this corner, you can imagine how Chrono Cross and FFIX were even more taxing on the PS1 hardware.

>>719218079 (OP)
I agree, it's the best one, good doesn't do it justice.

>>719236553
He also has facial features of a monkey

>>719236553
It's a cat tail. It's out there in official designer commentary and other stuff, despite that one scene that makes everyone (including me) think it's a monkey thing.
I mean, whatever, it's not gonna change nothing in the story if you prefer it to be a monkey's tail anyway.

Bros

>>719236159
Good morning

The card game is wack, how come I have a higher number and still lose

>>719229232
>can't just loot the flute off his dead corpse
Fucking game logic.

>>719236657
Cool, then show us the official designer commentary and we can end the debate right away.

>>719229564
This breaks the nerd's soul.

>>719236934
There you go.

"According to an interview with Final Fantasy IX art director Hideo Minaba from Dengeki PlayStation volume 151, Zidane Tribal originally had a black leopard's tail, but it was difficult to see it against the backgrounds so they changed it into a yellow cat's tail.

ネコか? サルか?

長年(?)ジタンはネコかサルかについての議論がありましたがついに決着をつける時が来ました。では発表します。
皆葉さん曰く・・・「ジタンは最初、黒豹のしっぽが付いていたんですけど、見づらいので黄色になりました。だからネコ系ですね。」
(結論:ジタンはネコだった。)
=========
Is it a cat? Or monkey?

For many years (?) Jitan had a debate about whether it was a cat or a monkey, and it was time to finally settle it. I will announce it.
Minaba's says ... "Zidane is the first, I'd had with a black leopard tail, It is so hard to see now yellow. So cat system.""

>>719218079 (OP)
Reminder that all FF8 friends are south American. They cannot like FF9 because it makes them feel like lesser men for enjoying anything other than macho man nonsense.

>>719225152
If beat Yan before Ozma the it doesn't count

>>719236857
RNG son

>>719218079 (OP)
It has many of the same problems as 7 but for some reason it's easier to forgive them in 9.

>>719237036
Thank you, now drop the topic and go back to discuss the game.
Otherwise, you 2 get a room.

FFIX sure had the comfiest locations.

>>719236356
It's , not [spoilers] or [Spoiler].

Nice game, I don't like how the technical side of performance hindered combat, which is a huge chunk of a jrpg's gameplay.
Nobuo was a god composer in IX, too, as usual.
I feel like basically every Final Fantasy from 3 to 10 the main beat of the story is life/death and how we deal with them in our interpersonal relationships, but 9 still did it in a distinct manner than 4, 6, 7 and 8.

>>719237036
cat, monkey, whatever it is, it's designed to take dick

>>719230412
Getting drunk with Freya and fade to black at the end of her social link (the sleeping theme plays as well)

>>719237536
I would be fine with either, but I do prefer catbois.

>>719218079 (OP)
It is.

FFIX is nice but it adds up so many little things I don't ever want to replay it. The chocobo minigame, frog eating, microing synthesis stuff, the retarded card game forced in the main quest etc.

>>719237303
the game has a lot of sovl

>>719237861
Either way, Zidane is a top tier cute protagonist.

zidane crossdressing scene

>>719237941
You don't need to win single card game

>>719219013
8 was even worse than 9.

>>719238215
Good to know. I just remember having to play that crap in Treno or wherever way back.
And I was more of a retard of being a completionist and following guides than I am today.
If I'd play FFIX today I'd just chill through the story and grind only when feeling it. The only exception would be the Chocobo minigame because you get excellent gear to it and access to Ozma, right?

>>719238252
Nope. 8 is more fun, it has more gameplay, the battles and limit breaks are better, better card game, faster pace and faster battles, more player agency, more side stuff to do. There's a reason FF8 gets replayed multiple times but FF9 gets replayed max once.

>>719238326
>The only exception would be the Chocobo minigame because you get excellent gear to it and access to Ozma, right?
Correct. Also if you want to hit Ozma with regular attacks, you need to complete the friendly monsters side quest but why would you when you can just kill it with Zidane's Thievery, Steiner's Shock, Freya's Dragon Crest and Quina's Frog Drop all dealing fixed 9999 damage

>>719238215
You need to win 2 out of the 3 games to progress, but they're very easy games. All the other stuff anon listed is optional.

>>719238427
>why would you do a twenty minute side quest instead of grinding 99 frogs, 99 dragons, 9999 steals

9's biggest problems are game speed (fixed by modern versions) and the story kind of shitting the bed in the last 15% of the game (most FF stories aren't good). Other than that the variation on gameplay is the best in the series.

>>719218613
>8 better than 9
No

>>719238826
Tell me more about the variation of the gameplay

I like 8 and 9 the same.

>>719218079 (OP)
Ix is overrated and I want to kill Beatrix

>>719238427
>Get free AP for a bunch of skills as you progress through the game
>Also has the added bonus of making it so Ozma doesn't heal himself with Doomsday
>Significantly less tedious than farming dragons, gaming your speed stat and farming steal counts, and catching frogs and waiting for them to reproduce
You'd be a fool to ignore the friendly monsters

For me it's memoria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXJAV1RU8A

>get to the final dungeon
>final dungeon music from FF2 plays
kino

>>719240215
I never cared for Amarant. Even in a world full of fantasy creatures, he just looks so out of place for some reason.

>>719219079
You have to admit, he is pretty cute.

>>719218079 (OP)
Missed perfect casting opportunity for Garnet

>>719241297
Why did she choose to look like that

>>719240560
Pandemonium is to this day the best dungeon theme in any FF, in any of its various forms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDBKqQl40l8

>>719241340
Ask the GoT wardrobe designers

>>719241490
I don't know what the fuck happened with that around the 4th or 5th season when they just put everyone in black dresses

>>719231352
T-that's a bodysuit right?

>>719241432
2 in general has a great soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuS8lAuXm48

>>719241919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x09BjJjo90
It's a shame none of the other composers have come close to living up to Uematsu

>>719240560
>have to play the final dungeon in FF2
Pain.

>>719235685
Zoomer here
I actually do like when games are slow, it partly why I play RPGs in the first place. It's also better for telling the stories I like.

But I do still feel like there's still a difference between taking it all in and doing jack shit.

To related it to FF9, I do like the panning camera intro in battles. It gives me time to think about my moves beforehand and give the game a bit of a cinematic feel, but I don't like how the ATB gauge doesn't start at full at beginning of battles because I already know what I'm going to do, and literally nothing moves during it, meaning I'm staring at a screen for 5 seconds before actually playing the game.

It's sort of the same problem I have with FF4 which I'm playing right now.

>>719240560
>>719241432
FF2 is so overhated it's a bit sad

>>719242474
Pr fixes some shit, but it's still the worst of the 6.

>>719242558
nah 4 is the worst of the first 6

I can give you the correct list from the best to the worst of the first 10 FFs

FF7 > FF5 > FF10 > FF8 >FF6 > FF9 >FF4 > FF1 >FF3 >FF2

>>719242971
you're incorrect on multiple acocunts

>>719218613
>>719242971
You really don't need to explicate "FF" a dozen times in a single post.

>>719242667
What do you not like about 4? It was completely inoffensive to me, nothing really that good or bad about it.

>>719218079 (OP)
your mom is fat

>>719243210
Mostly your party being premeditated at all times. Although on a given day I might rate 6 as worse.

:3

>>719240560
>FF2 Mentioned

It also has the best world map theme that the PSP/GBA remakes expanded upon

https://youtu.be/SWgXdwTwcwE

>>719242558
2 is better than 3. 3 stinks
5 > 9 > 7 > 6 > 10 > 1 > 8 > 4 > 2 > 3

>>719243846
I really like how FF2 uses its overworld theme to juxtapose itself against the first game and set a completely different tone

>>719243846
the second overworld theme in 5 probably my favourite but 2's is a close second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJENynf9LBU

>>719226582
Yeah but the issue with CT is that they fumbled the sequel horribly.
And I don't mean the retarded "CT cast is dead so CC is bad" take, when you look at the cut content/ideas they wanted to make an even better game but just started to cut stuff out and were left with a mess

The ff8 sperg always shows himself when making anti-9 threads. You're a joke!!!!!!!!

>>719235538
Load times
Because Memoria Mod fixes a lot of issues, Moguri was trained with good datasets (eg. original artworks) and also unlike other mods it's very easy to install, doesn't have a shitload of clutter where you have a bunch of mods doing small things where you end up with stuff like Tim Smith's overworld mod 1.3, Tim Smith's battle camera mod 0.5, Tim smith's Character model mod 2.3, Tim Smith's Character Battle mod 2.3 and so on

>>719218079 (OP)
Its 99% on rails, some characters are cardboard cutouts but the presentation and characters that do get screen, are great.

>>719243846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOZWAT17MXs
>not posting the pixel remaster version
>B-B-B-BUT ITS LE PIXEL DEMASTER GET IT XD!?

>>719226582
When I played this as a kid I would always feel bad for the character who had to hang around at the end of time while the others were out on adventures. That's why I always rotated my party members.

>>719244105
>not merged worlds which sets up the feels of the game perfectly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADeLPvCu6vQ

>>719227929
No, far from it.
More like rushed to finish it by cutting stuff out
Hades was supposed to be the final boss but was then made to be an optional boss. They didn't even change the arena when you fight the actual final boss. It's still Hades' arena

>>719219891
>>719226342
It wasnt budget, it was time and space.
They wanted to include all the temple fights but the disk space wasnt enough
it is the reason why many of the towns in disk 4 are blocked

>>719244834
It's not only because of the tight schedule but also just how much they could put on the discs. I remember reading they were really struggling to make that all work out and part of the reason the Shrine bosses were cut out.

>>719240723
I would switch Amarant with Lani in a heartbeat, Amarant is such a nothing character he has no cool factor to him. Would’ve been cute and funny seeing Garnet, Eiko and Lani fight over Zidane lol

>>719241297
I absolutely would

>>719241432
FF2 is one of the first games to have Boss Music and introduce many series staples such as the Chocobo, and Behemoth

>>719245113
Also introduced malboros and coeurls which funnilyu enough had the bad bad breath attack until it became a malboro signature later on.

>>719241297
I think she's genuinely cute. Guess I have a thing for "weird" faces.

>>719245610
Still the best FF girl and Zidane is still the best FF boy.

>>719245706
True

>>719245005
Would be interesting if the remake they had was "cancelled" since they got sakaguchi back on the phone, and they instead wanted to restore all of the crammed/scrapped content the same way they're supposedly doing for FFT now

>>719240560
Doesn't FF9 also tell the story summary of FF2?
>>719242474
FF2 really needs a proper remake. Every re-release doesn't even attempt to fix it

>>719246074
>Doesn't FF9 also tell the story summary of FF2?
Not really, Ramuh asks you to piece together the story bit of Josef from what I remember but that and the final dungeon theme are the extent of references to 2.

You just know that Kuja was a power bottom and had a human male bf

>>719241490
I meant her face customization

>>719246037
From everything that was floating around it sounded and looked (those 25th anniversary arts were meant for it no doubt) like it'd be very faithful and not some giant budget bloated project. I wonder how preferable it is if it was cancelled. Who knows what that project might turn into instead when it's rebooted at some stage.

>>719246037
I bet they were floating the idea until all their mobileshit crashed and burned
>>719246686
Any FF9 remake would require a significantly budget because of the size of the game and the expectations of the fans

>>719247046
Yes but there's levels to that. Of course a fairly popular FF they don't want to be associated with some low effort AA project. But there is no purpose to blow this up into 3 games (just as there wasn't for 7 but whatever). It can all be kept more limited even if it's high level, all depends on the approach.

>>719224519
>food analogy

>>719228281
More than one boy's awakening, they knew exactly what they were doing with that skirt

why does everyone suddenly complain about "too long animations", did some youtuber recently say that and now everyone copies this "argument"? I fucking hate zoomers

>>719248642
it's been a complaint for 26 or so years

>>719227538
Drawing lets you gain certain spells faster than refining. It's faster than earning cards through triple triad

>>719230598
Are you me?

>>719248706
nobody ever complained about this

>>719220818
ATB is so much better than X's CBT

>>719248642
It's not the animations being too long. It's the animations to activate and finish transistions to be slow. For example giving command and character reacting, there's longer delay than in FF7 and FF8

test

I cannot understand the ADHD retards who think the battles in this game are too slow

the game is fun of sovl because it was Sakaguchi's baby. The first FF he completely wrote since 5

>>719218079 (OP)
it's a free country. you can be wrong if you want to.

>>719251417
Compare them to FF7 and FF8 and you will notoce it. There's lag in not only the battle starting but also in animations starting

>everyone complaining about FFIX's slow speed

Is it good on switch then? I heard switch had a speedup function?

>>719251802
Yes, remastered can be sped up

>>719246686
I don't think adding a few extra hours of content between leaving Lindblum and Garnet's "character development" would really be necessarily bloated. Some extra evidence of Terra or the Lifa tree extending underneath every continent, a decent side quest for Amarant & Freya, making the guardian dungeons real things that you solve through ATEs, maybe another dwarf or expeditionary settlement on the western continent, and some unifying exposition to solidify what eidolons really are and why Kuja was willing to just skip them over to just outright gorging on soul juice when he realized he could just trance out instead of using something like Alexander that got instagibbed by the invincible anyway

>>719251802
The speed complaint is more from 20 years ago when people still played this on a disc on their PS1/PS2. There's the remaster on every system that has speed up functions and there's moguri mod where you can customize the game's speed entirely to your liking.

>>719218079 (OP)
The FF that suck:
1-2-3 (Aged like milk)
13-15 (Suck)
11-14 (gay)

All other games are between good to masterpiece.
4-Masterpiece
5-Good
6-Masterpiece
7-Masterpiece
8-Excellent
9-Good
10-Masterpiece
12-Good
16-Good

Bad = 7 games
Good = 9 games

>>719252280
1,2, and 3 are good though.

>>719218613
FF8 is a terrible game.

>>719252704
Blatantly false

>>719218079 (OP)
Design wise FF9 shares a lot of things in common with FF16.
Both games were created with the primary purpose of attracting a casual audience and out of all the games in the series these 2 are thus the easiest and most braindead. FF9 was the first FF you could 100% without a guide.

>>719247586
>But there is no purpose to blow this up into 3 games (just as there wasn't for 7 but whatever)
There wasn't one for FF7 either, it was purely stretched out to turn it into a complete franchise (Fabula Nova Crystallis) .
They only announced it would be 3 parts very recently, if I'm not mistaken shortly before the release of Rebirth since the sales for the FF7 remake project are far from what they expected

>>719247046
>Any FF9 remake would require a significantly budget because of the size of the game and the expectations of the fans
Same bullshit SE has been spouting for FF7. It's bullshit, most of the game is done already

>>719218079 (OP)
I like it, but honestly the 3rd disc is such a drag. Story just kinda falls off and flounders when Garland shows up and Kuja takes over the main antagonist spot. You just spend disc 3 chasing him and it doesn't pick up until Terra.

>>719254746
It's a real shame too. Location look pretty neat

>>719218079 (OP)
I know, it's a masterpiece that keeps filtering plebs till this day.

>>719252280
FFIX is objectively better than FFVIII

>>719236601
You're retarded bro.

>>719228281
I need Sephie's toes in my mouth

>>719230412
Lick the soles of Freya's feet minigame

>>719218079 (OP)
you're right. it's the greatest video game ever created.

>>719253660
>100% game with missables and puzzle fights without a guide
Pretending to be retarded still requires some level of believability anon

>>719218876
>The game doesn't offer a reason for you to play it instead of just watching or reading the game.
i want every last zoomer dead and i'm not kidding.

>>719230412
>>719256324
i don't understand Freyafags. what the hell is wrong with you people? FF9 has the best girl in the series, Freya is fuckugly

>>719256629
Garnet is nothing special; just a generic brunette with brown eyes. I'll pass.

>>719218079 (OP)
If you like Falcom and Atlus games, you havr the shittiest taste ever.

>>719256629
I like both though freya's official render is pretty shit
I mostly want to blast a load on Mikoto's blank stare though

>>719218079 (OP)
True. Its a fantastic game.

Honestly my second favourite FF game, after 7.

>>719254669
>They only announced it would be 3 parts very recently, if I'm not mistaken shortly before the release of Rebirth
They announced that the same day they announced Rebirth as a game, but I think a trilogy was sort of expected anyway with where Remake ended.
But I agree, it's this misguided idea that everything needs this big expansion. It's fine to add some elements that were lacking here or there, but we don't need Gargan Roo or Gizamaluke's Grotto turned into hour long dungeons, doesn't really add anything.

>>719256681
>just a generic brunette with brown eyes
aka the best kind of female? yes she is

>>719254669
Art assets are expensive and 9 would require a lot of them

>>719259007
That's on the basis that the game needs to have full 3D environments now. Why not keep the camera angles

>>719259007
Stop spouting the shit SE has been spouting for decades.
They obviously don't mind throwing money around, why not spend some money on developing a game for once?
Even better if they don't want to inflate the budget like they've been doing ever since they took over the brand.

The truth is that the FF committee doesn't want the other suits and investors to find out that none of the games that have been developed since SE existence are as good and popular/influential than the Squaresoft games that are +20 years old

>>719238356
>battles are better
the pace yeah but the bosses no
>Triple Triad
Triple Triad is fucking gay in comparison to Tetra Master
>8 gets replayed more
lol no

>>719252756
>>719218613
>FF8
This game sucks soo much fucking ass, rejunctioning and drawing magic is such a waste of fucking time and the scaling is equally stupid...oh btw the story in 8 is terrible..GF's make you forget things, Squall is a shitty Protag and Rinoa isnt likeable. Not having a weapon/item system in lieu of the GF system is also gay

>>719220818
Too bad there will never be another turn based FF ever again lmao or another mainline FF game either

>>719227538
>just refine cards
>just level up the refine abilities and force yourself to level up thus scale enemies
>Just play the fucking dog shit card game for hours to then refine cards to then refine magic and break the game
FF8 is soo fucking dumb

>>719260448
Friend. You can use Card command on enemies or petrify them to gain AP but not EXP. You use Tonberry GF Lvl Up command to raise enemies' lvls if needed

>>719260092
Wait a minute. Are you saying you stood in battles spamming draw instead of refining your spells from items?

>>719218079 (OP)
only 6 and 10 are good the rest
shit

>>719260596
Carding sucks ass, but then again only retards care about not leveling up.

>>719253660
>you can get excalibur 2 and beat ozma without a guide
for sure anon

As we can see, it takes pretty high IQ to understand how to play FF8

>>719261108
The most optimal strategy is to draw magic and run from every single battle, anyone with a high IQ should dislike FF8.

>>719261270
How you planning to gain AP?

>>719261108
>running from battles and drawing magic is truly a great game design
the only thing remotely interesting about ff8 is how debilitating effect magic actually had utility

>>719261430
>how you gonna level GF's bro
Dont need to if you just play the stupid card game and get magic flare and weapons outside of level range

>>719261430
Turn enemies into cards which gives AP and no XP. Farm cactuars which gives 20 AP and almost no XP. Or just install the mod that removes enemy scaling and make the game actually fun.

>>719261503
Um sweetie. The GFs need AP to learn the abilities and different junctions

>>719261610

>>719261270
>run from every single battle

I smell a contradiction

>>719261610
>just install the mod that removes enemy scaling and make the game actually fun.
You are a complete retard if you think 8's pisspoor attempt at level scaling makes it not fun.

>>719262257
The mod also lets you buy basic magic from the shop and increases draw limit and hundreds of other things. It turns the game from like an unbalanced 5/10 slog to an 8/10, easily.

>>719262515
I don't give a shit about your stupid cheats. They aren't fixing a fundamentally flawed game.

>>719262558
>cheats
It makes the game way harder what are you even talking about. You can just Renzokuken your way through the entirety of vanilla FF8

>>719262726
Not listening to an idiot that thinks you need cheats to buy magic.

>>719262996
It's just the first tier of magic so you don't have to waste hours at a time when you start the game doing boring bullshit. Are you retarded? It's so bad the official Steam version includes a "magic booster" cheat to just start with that. The official version LITERALLY includes a cheat.

>>719260813
Based take if you're completely blind to the series past the menu screen. 6 is great if you like mashing Attack and watching numbers go up, and 10 is just the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for character stats. Meanwhile 9 had actual heart, 12 had some of the best worldbuilding, and 5 is peak job system kino. You're outing yourself as a tourist.

>>719241297
Not even close to being cute enough to play Garnet

>>719230412
RAT PUSSY

>>719252280
1 and 2 are very fun on gba

>>719265032
What actress would make a good Garnet?

>>719256467
>i want every last zoomer dead and i'm not kidding.
Sperg elsewhere, loser.

>>719235538
PC + Memoria and Moguri is by far the difinitive version of the game now. It brings so many improvements and features.
The only thing emulation still has that the PC version doesnt is proper menu cursor speed which for some reason is either unfixable or very inconvenient to fix on the PC version.

>>719265771
Young Jennifer Connelly

>>719265935
i've been here longer than you've been alive, faggot. i will continue to sperg here.