Thread 719231703

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFpwSRAOlCU
Onimusha actually looks great. It doesn't look as parryslop as the trailers when someone actually plays it, they just showed off those scenes more heavily in trailers because they're eye candy.

Looks completely soulless, won't touch it

>>719232001
It has plenty of souls though

>>719231703 (OP)
>game titled WAY OF THE sword with parry mechanics similar to WAY OF THE samurai is being called a sekirolike because le parry mechanic xD
fromdrones have done irreparable damage to gaming discourse

>>719231703 (OP)
>not parry slop
but the parries are literally the only part of the combat that leads to interesting interactions in this game, like how you can make enemies stumble into walls and shit by redirecting them after the parry. which by the way is the first innovation we've seen in the design of parries in like 30+ years. i hate parry slop, but if the game is hard enough on the highest difficulty for it to serve as a CC tool rather than just a "press button at the right time to win" thing, then colour me interested. I already know it's not going to deliver on its potential though, since it's a capcom game we're talking about.

>cool elemental weapon is just a rechargeable special attack now
Fuckin ruined

>>719232341
Parryslop = forced to parry as your main form of defense(same as rollslop) which reduces the gameplay to a simon says rhythm game.
you have more forms of defense and attack than parries which makes it not parryslop.

>>719232467
this

>>719232467
you don't even know what the word rhythm means thougheverbeitly

>>719232658
I'm glad issen is back, but it looks a bit slow.

>>719232467
what I'm saying is, if parrying is the only mechanic in the game that leads to interesting interactions, then for me at least, it might as well be parry slop. I'm not complaining though, this is the first time since MGRR that a parry hasn't looked like a shallow dog shit mechanic to me. like see >>719232658 webm, those perfect dodges are not interesting to me. you just follow up with normal slashes or the issen which is a "cut scene attack". the interaction itself is boring.

>>719232467
Parryslop is a buzzword parroted by idiots who shouldn't be allowed within 1000 miles of a design discussion.

>>719232797
the animation itself is the same speed, it just has more hitstop now than before

>>719232294
>no WotS 5 with a budget
Fuck this gay earth.

>>719232918
so just like people who say "rhythm game" to things that have no rhythm.

>>719232913
>parrying is the only mechanic in the game that leads to interesting interactions
not even true, you can simply overwhelm them while their blocking and throw them to a nearby wall if you break their guard
>you just follow up with normal slashes or the issen which is a "cut scene attack". the interaction itself is boring.
you just don't like onimusha then

>>719231703 (OP)
>Issen are in
based

>>719233053
looks identical to dragon's dogshit 2 gameplay; very slow enemies, flashy moves/counters with minimal input, everything is slow enough so that the millennial target audience can process what's going on, no real risk or difficulty whatsoever.

>>719233653
lol seething fromdrone

>>719233053
this shit is so cool man I love beat em up style game design with dynamic interactions
>>719233653
perish

>>719233053
this game needs a blade dulling mechanic to explain why realistically musashi would grab a dude and slam him into a wall after breaking their guard instead of just cutting them down, which would be much faster

>>719232294
Insane how much better Sekiro looks, and I say this as a Sekiro hater

>>719233960
good goy

>>719233653
They hated him because he spoke the truth

>>719231703 (OP)
I dont play woke game

>>719232294
>>719232658
>>719233053
>WoS parries
>issen back
>funny tossing people around the environment
Better than I thought it'd be. Do we still have big awesome magic attacks?

>>719232294
Can't believe you managed to make Sekiro look like a complex and engaging game
I guess even Fromsoftware's parryslop is just 10 steps ahead parryslop of worse studios

>>719234097
>japanese game about japan with japanese people in game is...le woke!
what did she mean by this?

>>719233960
>>719234163
stop samefagging fromdrone

>>719232294
The way ganryu just tanks the hits with no reaction is so lame

>>719233653
This

>>719233653
Looks alot more like kunitsu gami to me, big focus on combat looking cool to distract from how simple it is

>>719232658
The enemy designs and that fucking arm is so unappealing and uninspired, looks like some generic ps2 shit or that ps3 launch title enemy crab mosou game, just ass, and so weirdly unfitting with that Mifune-face that's supposed to echo real samurai movies, mixed with this unserious shit.

>>719232294
This is the best defense of Sekiro I have ever seen. I'm going to use this webm to show how Sekiro isn't slow boring parryslop

>>719234319
>ps2 shit or that ps3 launch title
holy soul

>>719231703 (OP)
>slow, gassy, brown and gray parryslop
Wait a minute, i'm not the target audience!

>>719234319
Every masterpiece has its cheap copy

fromdrones having severe meltdown itt HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Why is he wearing the gauntlet from DxD?

>>719231703 (OP)
Basically what I thought as well.
I see Fromslop shit and roll my eyes and lose all interest, but this actually looks fairly interesting.

Actually made me interested in playing the older games.

>>719234319
Of all the projects for his face to appear in lmao. Absolute shameful dispray from the devs.

>>719234423
he likes oppai

>>719232467
>you have more forms of defense and attack than parries
What action games have defensive mechanics beyond a parry or a dodge? What would that even look like?

I hate capcom for killing my favourite ips but at the same time I respect them for not turning all their action games into souls slop. you'd think they'd do it for sure with how profit oriented they have become, especially with how pretty much every decision that lead to MH wilds being bad was motivated by "broadening appeal"

such a confusing company, capcom

>>719234746
this might be incomprehensible to people who have lived on a souls slop diet for years, but... I'm going to say it.... positioning.

>>719234892
have we played the same games? You do a ton of whiff punishing and stuff in souls games and abusing hit boxes so you can low profile a boss's attack and stuff like that.

>>719234892
Souls games are the last bastion of game design rooted in positioning

>>719235031
yea that was a thing in demons souls and dark souls. nowadays these tactics at best sometimes work because you can test and memorize the extent to which a certain attack can track you, but these properties are not an inherent part of attack itself.

>>719234130
>magic attacks
Yes, the meter is on bottom right of the webm.

>>719235031
>>719235135
there is no positioning in a game where you do nothing but abuse iframes retard

>>719235135
he might be one of those players who never turned off lock-on in his life and just rollslopped r1 in the same direction over and over again. many such cases

>>719235246
playing that way is neither optimal nor fun, stay buttblasted buzzword-spewer

>>719235230
You are completely full of shit. If you don't massively overlevel/abuse broken AoWs/use spirit ashes positioning is even more important than it was in previous titles, especially on the harder fights. Half of the Malenia fight, for example, is being in the right spot so that you can punish her whiffing, which you can't do if you're spamming roll like a retard.

>>719234319
No this is pretty much a perfect thematic fit for Onimusha, which always used real actor faces mixed with fantasy samurai things.
The worst thing they couldve done would be making some bland ass boring ghost of tsushima movieslop muh realism game.
As a matter of fact I think this Onimusha is already not stylized enough to be proper.
Aiming for PS2 style is EXACTLY what they should do because thats when games were still good.

>>719232294
Actually it's from anti-fromfags. Why would fromfags be calling games they like "slop" you retard?

>>719235458
>roll
>R1
>roll
>R1
>roll
>R1
>R1
>roll
>R1
>holy shit it's the world record!
https://youtu.be/4zHga3uuv1M?t=31s

>>719235632
read the thread mong

Sekiro got BTFO

>>719235580
>Half of the Malenia fight, for example, is being in the right spot so that you can punish her whiffing
which is exactly what i described here:
>nowadays these tactics at best sometimes work because you can test and memorize the extent to which a certain attack can track you, but these properties are not an inherent part of attack itself.
idk how you can be too stupid to understand this. it literally makes up 80% of the post and yet you still typed out that diarrhea. nothing about waterfowl's animation clues you into how you'd reasonably outmaneuver it. instead, you have to test it until you discover how to break the tracking on her locking on to you.
by the way, you can still just roll it if you're light rolling which was probably the "intention" behind its stupid design

>>719235612
>Aiming for PS2 style
>Posts prerendered cutscene

>>719235839
retarded

>>719235230
the fuck, I never used that shit more than I did in ER with the charged r2s for the stun, it was constant. And in sekiro you could use the charge attack to knick an enemy's side before going through them when lockon was off, causing their attacks to miss and with the fast move speed you could get on their blindside or behind them a lot

>>719235135
lol not past elden shit
bosses have near 360 tracking and cross-arena counter heal input read attacks.
for earlier games, absolutely.

>>719235612
if it's part of the series' identity then I'm glad for you, it's just completely the opposite of my taste

>>719236018
I still fully expect Capcom to disappoint me desu.

>>719235978
Skill issue.

>>719235780
Git gud

Too many katanaslop games coming out, where are my bigass western greatswords at?

>>719236562
you're a mindless drone

>>719236845
Skill issue

They brought back Toshiro Mifune from the dead just to make him basedface.

>>719231703 (OP)
Getting the rights to Toshiro Mifune's likeness is cool

I miss pre-rendered backgrounds so much bros.

>>719236881
>runs a complete circle around her to break her tracking, not to avoid the inherent properties of the attacks which is a diagonal downward slash which you would reasonably position out of by going in the opposite direction of the slash arc, but by actually running along the same trajectory of the attack because the important thing to get out of is not the inherent property of the attack animation itself, but the tracking
thanks for always confirming what I said, the thing is though, you basically do not even understand what I am saying. like, you literally cannot comprehend it because you've never thought deeply about design in your life, you just see that the result is technically possible and then throw all other questions that might be raised about how it is achieved and whether that's a good way to go about it or not by the wayside. when you avoid an attack by positioning in elden ring, it usually feels like you're just exploiting the constraints of a shallow system.

>>719237084
Are you just stupid or also pathetic and stupid?

>>719237084
dude loved making silly faces so he would unironically like it and think it's funny

>>719237464
99% of internet discourse is dishonest and false flags. we need to get out of here brother

>>719233653
Onimusha is a Millennial series, retarded zoomer.

>>719231703 (OP)
Cowboy is a shill. New Onimusha looks like dogshit, RE Engine is a disaster, how does the New Onimusha somehow look WORSE than DMC5 which came out half a decade ago?!?!?!?

>>719237084
overrated actor desu. This guy was the real protagonist and best character in Seven Samurai

ITT:

>>719237786
he was in more films than seven samurai.
like for example... the miyamoto musashi movie.

>>719237786
Why even make it a competition? Shimura, Mifune, Nakadai, and Kurosawa are all masters on what they do.

>>719237882
do crapshills never get tired of dragging the same narrative

>>719233653
TRUTH BOMB. Lmao@ the triggered crapcom fans.

>>719237084
I wish it was middle aged Mifune like he was in the anime

>>719231703 (OP)
I've already seen people play it and I've only gotten far more skeptical. It seems like it's trying to replace depth and mechanics with extremely detailed canned animations to wow people superficially, the balance seems horrendous and the part I was most interested in, the environmental interactions were barely showcased and look like they'll be overshadowed heavily by both the sheer strength basic moves have and how immediately enemies die regardless of approach and despite how few in number they are. Even absorbing souls is hardly a consideration since you can do it while moving.

I really want to be proven wrong since I loved the series in the past and it was great at reimagining itself but much of what is "new" just looks like a downgrade and the supposed focus on action isn't coming through at all. What I expected from the trailers and was entirely on board with was Dead Rising: Samurai edition, which would have been a really interesting yet understandable evolutionary path but I'm just not seeing that, or much of anything really.

>>719238563
the game doesn't even have a release date yet, stop overreacting

>>719232294
>Way of the Samurai has a better parry than a 2026 game
The state of modern gaming

>>719232294
>hyper armor
Into the trash it goes.

>>719232294
Sekiro > WotS > Onimusha

why are fromtards so afraid of this game?

>>719240262
the jew fears the samurai

>>719233653
>>719234068
>>719234268
>>719238041
Discord troon still brain damaged by DD2. You retards really move from game to game to try to shit on things as much as you can. Hell, you suicidal morons can't even stay away from the NG4 threads. Go play some fucking video games.

>>719232294
Combat in onimusha looks funner

>>719240516
tell em xister

>>719231703 (OP)
>>719232294
The mistake you're making is thinking slopwords are a factor in deciding what games I'll play. I don't come here for recommendations.

>>719231703 (OP)
Camera looks terrible.

>>719232294
>dude what if you have to stop playing and just wait for the boss attack so you can spam parry 10 times in a row
fromslop games look so fucking terrible to play