Thread 719804171

Find a flaw.

>>719804171 (OP)
Woke.

>>719804171 (OP)

down attack is fucking uncomfortable to use. literally unplayable

I can't buy it

>>719804171 (OP)
Is isn't titled Hollow Knight 2.

>>719804171 (OP)
queer slop with gay plots.

e502 l3 error

I cant because I cant buy the game yet.

im not playing as a woman

>>719804171 (OP)
It's years late. Some fans have died waiting for it.

I'm so excited to play silksong, I haven't tried hollow knight but I heard great things about it as well

>>719805893
O'rlly? Not surprised but this is the first I have heard that, barring the r34 lesbo shit.

>>719804171 (OP)
game has woke propaganda

>>719804171 (OP)
>platformer in an artstyle i dont care for
>7 years (from announcement) to release
>thread spam
i look forward to not caring about this and forgetting it existed

>>719805893
Silksong is the straight mans game

Here's several

>>719806959
Snails and slugs really are hermaphroditic

>>719806959
>Refunded

>>719804171 (OP)
Lack of the knight.

>beat a pretty difficult boss fight
>get...a downgrade?
The game is definetly war more harder than Hollow Knight. And im not complaining, normies get filtered.

it's almost too similar to the first. I know people just want more Hollow Knight so they'll lap it up like idiots, but it's the same platforming, same eneimes, same map purchasing, same world design, same shopkeepers, same lore. All with a new skin. I hope there's more but it jsut looks like Hollow Knight 1.5. If Tears of the Kingdom got an ounce of shit for being similar to BotW this game should be lambasted.

>>719808691
>but it jsut looks like Hollow Knight 1.5
that's what it was always meant to be, but they got so much funding they decided to make it its own game

Overhyped 2D platformer.

>>719804171 (OP)
I still can't buy it/10

>>719804171 (OP)
They made the compass an equipped item again.

May as well call this bitch Myla II.

Melee metroidvanias are boring.

>>719804171 (OP)

>Singing warrior dude
>Cornifer

>giant beetle thing in the bell junkyard
>the last stag/stag stations

>both times greeted by old eccentric cackling about your 'fish out of water' adventure before *mechanically almost identical town to dirtmouth*

>flees
>caterpillars

you guys really spent 6 years chimping out about a hollow knight reskin

I have money and I cannot consume

>>719804171 (OP)
australian made

>>719804171 (OP)
>2D metroidvania inspired by dark souls
It's ass

>>719804171 (OP)
How much taller is hornet to the bug guy from the first. Does that change the combat at all?

>>719805008
Elaborate please

>>719804171 (OP)
How' s the OST?

the NSP isn't out yet

>>719810983
Gay bugs.

I played it for about 20 minutes on gamepass and fucking hated it. How do you make a metroidvania with no map? Also my controller disconnected and they didn't think to pause the game when the controller disconnects like every fucking other modern video game so I died and now I have no idea where I was because there's NO FUCKING MAP. Uninstalled.

>>719811023
Beat the game, nothing as good as Pure Vessel comes along.

>>719811212
You have to EARN the map, retard.

>>719811373
Earn my boot up your ass shill.

The good news: its hollow knight again
The bad news: its hollow knight again

kind of disappointed they didnt iterate/expand more given the development time but if it works it works

anyone else getting microstutters?

>>719804171 (OP)
Hornet is not currently silking my schlong.

>>719804171 (OP)
sequelbaiting

>>719805008
fpbp

>>719804171 (OP)
It killed the game industry. As of today, everyone will expect indie games and AA games to be $20 max. If the game even sniffs GOTY (meaning if it's even in consideration), it will mean people will expect even AAA games to be cheaper than they are to make. We are on the road to $80 for the base game of big named titles because it takes that much to make them now. After this, people always compare their games to Silksong and wonder if it's worth pay $40 or $50+ more than what they paid for that.

Silksong literally killed gaming today and nobody is paying attention.

>>719804171 (OP)
it exist.

>>719816148
Good. Great. Did they get canceled?

>>719804171 (OP)
I really really want to play this game, today, tomorrow and on the weekends but fuck me my employer has me working overtime due to issues at the office so bye bye personal freedom :(

>>719805691
I still suck at it but this is cope. You'll get better.
I'm 1/3rd there and it already feels amazing

>>719804171 (OP)
It's just more of the first game

>>719816148
Games should cost $5 max
Team Cherry are a bunch of conartists

>>719804171 (OP)
>Find a flaw.
It only just fucking came out, implying their aren't any is the height of stupidity
There will be many flaws, and it will still be a good game
Faggot

>>719805008
Hello GCJ, are you having fun cackling like a lunatic at your retarded strawman?
Simpletons are easily amused.

>>719805893
>>719806854
Provide evidence, faggot.

The first one was boring
This is more of the same, so no thanks.

>>719804171 (OP)
Tranny garbage

>>719816148
Don't get my hopes up anon

>>719804171 (OP)
Diagonal dashing fucking sucks compared to downtapping, the game's controls are awful

Did they add inertia? If not then that is an immediate fatal flaw that makes the game, to me, unplayable flash game trash

>>719818000
More refined combat and options for exploration too. Once you've got some tools, some of your abilities and get your bearings the game feels completely different. I'm pretty sure Lace alone will filter anyone thinking they can get away with the same shit they did in the first game.

>>719816709
WAGIE WAGIE GET IN CAGIE

Don't get the hype around this game, is it zoomer's first indie platformer or sth? There have been thousands of these games with nice artstyles but completely generic jump n run gameplay the last 20 years.

>>719811081
Motherfucker you're the person saving gay fan art

>End of a long platforming puzzle
>Heres some beads fuck off
Im reminded why I dropped hollow knight

>>719818461
>inertia

>>719818593
Its the same reason I dont much like classic megaman.

>>719806959
Fucking idiot...

>>719818501
it's a falseflag you fucking retard

>>719804171 (OP)
the little bow she does at the start of her running animation irritates me to no end

>>719818731
>Running animation
You mean walking, right? The game has a sprint button you get around the 2 hour or so mark.

>>719813637
But I wanted hollow knight again

>>719811373
Terrible thing for a Metroidvania to do

if you run then press back and jump, you do a backflip

if you stop then move forward, or move forward then move back, you do almost the same animation as alucard in SOTN

it's so good.

>>719818905
Is it that hard to walk around areas that it shoehorns you into since you can't travel anywhere else without powerups? You get the map early.

>>719808691
>If Tears of the Kingdom got an ounce of shit for being similar to BotW this game should be lambasted.

How is it harder than HK?

I thought the shit bonfire and enemy placements really held me back from liking the game but the bosses were challenging but fair and satisfying to beat. Is Silksong more of the same?

They really just reskinned the entire game but put the downward attack at an angle...

>>719804171 (OP)
Apparently they made it even more padded than the first game, which is pretty terrible

>>719811373
map was the worst aspect of hollow knight

Anyone else a little underwhelmed? Maybe it'll get better later

>>719818798
yeah, walking, does she not do that retarded bow when you sprint?

>>719818425
>no evidence

>>719806959
kek, he removed the non-binary comment

>>719819026
If we want to play with this logic, why limit the map at all if it doesn't matter?

>>719804171 (OP)
I sucks I can't use B to heal when I use the spear. When I get hit there is cool down time and I can immediately get hit again

New healing sucks.
New pogo attack sucks.
Tone went from grimdark wannabe Dark Souls to bland reddit chungus.
Music is bland.
Combat is basically the same.
The game still does not respect your time.
It is clear that the devs hate the player and want to waste your time as much as possible. Otherwise, compass shit that takes up a fucking charm slot still wouldn't be in the game.
MC bitch is cringe and can't shut the fuck up.

It's garbage. Refunded.

>>719818905
>>719811373
Just play the game in a few months or until autists release guide videos

it builds on the first game as movement has more depth and options, which makes combat even more interesting/rewarding

it's a good sequel.

>>719819276
Or I can play the heap of Metroidvanias that are as good/better that do not make the same stupid choice

>>719804171 (OP)
More hollow knight, a shitty stretched out retard attempt at a metroidvania, a genre which has dozens of excellent examples and handfuls of flawless ones, hollow knight is below mediocre, clearly the designer didn’t play any better examples or they’re worse, people who dislike the genre like the 343 fags with halo. That’s what hollow knight is, it’s the equivalent of 343 making halo.

>>719804171 (OP)
i like the movement a lot. not sold on the levels and the fact that hornet has dialogue.

It's a flashgame for those that didn't grew up with snes / nes games. Low quality product for a low quality era

>>719819106
Lots of enemies deal two hit points of damage instead of one now and you can't heal incrementally anymore, it's all or nothing

>>719819392
So do that. Why are you emotionally invested in the failure/success of this particular toy?

>>719819532
I'm not, just joining in the discussion about it

BUY A FUCKING AD

>>719804171 (OP)
Doesn't have hornet sex cutscene

>>719819532
The thread is titled "find a flaw" don't throw a little bitch fit when someone criticizes the game

>>719819265
>>719819210

hi jack

>>719819392
Name 3

>>719819407
hello saar

>>719819234
You know how ToTK has that first sky island that shoehorns you into a particular path as a sort of tutorial with your tools all given to you by the end? It's like that. You follow a simple path, get the map tools, the map opens up, etc.
I'm sad that I have to explain nuance to you.

>>719820010
The first game requires you buy it lilbro

I think you can miss bosses if you do different things. I already missed a boss because I decided to try him later. Don`t know if he will spawn at another place but I don`t like missable content.

>>719804171 (OP)
Can i somehow pay additional 20$ to get pogo back?

>>719816148
>As of today, everyone will expect indie games and AA games to be $20 max
we will?

>>719804171 (OP)
QUESTION
Does it bring anything new to the table? or is it just "Hollow knight 2: now you are a girl"?

>>719820481
Not really, no
>>719820310
Skill issue
>>719820056
Your point being?
This one requires you to buy it just as much as the othet.

>>719804171 (OP)
antiquated gameplay. Good presentation can only carry so far.

I don't know what the fuck is going on in the room where you fight alongside the map bitch
She throws what look like the exact same projectiles as the little ant ninjas

>finally reach Lace
>its just hornet moveset from hollow knight
so this is just a DLC after all

>>719820490
The early game is extremely slow. as soon as you get the sprint its extremely good, your moveset is so much faster, the downwards dive, dash attack and all that shit flow really great with everything, and lace is an extremely good boss just out of how much fun you can have with your attacks
And then from that moment onwards you will be unlocking move movement, alternate movesets, more tools etc

>>719804171 (OP)
>5+ minute run backs to boss fights
yeah nah, screw this. Refunded.

>>719820490
It is indeed HK: Tranny edition

>>719806959
>plays metroidvania, whose predecessor had a notoriously slow start, for literally 20 minutes
>GAMES AWFUL, REFUNDED
Ok

>>719804171 (OP)
hornet dies at the end

>>719804171 (OP)
Does this have the same difficulty curve as HK? I was 21 when HK came out and now I'm almost 30. I don't have time for banging my head against difficulty walls like I used to.

>>719823129
Also just realized that I wasn't clear in this post. The difficulty curve in HK is fine because it's not until the end and post game content where it gets fuck you hard. I'm wondering if the game saves all of that stuff for later.

>>719820893
I just let her do all the work

>Find a flaw
its going to make this board unusable for days at minimum

>>719804171 (OP)
>female protagonist
to the trash it goes

>>719823721
Hello, Abdul.

>>719804171 (OP)
TC made the Compass a fucking slot consuming equipable again. Thats it.
Seriously fucking why?

>>719804171 (OP)
I find it boring

slopgame only popular because of the 'wher silksong' meme

>>719804171 (OP)
>Find a flaw.

Antiquated 2D side scroller

>>719804171 (OP)
Everyone's so brazingly annoying about it im not even looking at any trailers or gameplay.

>>719804171 (OP)
It's still downloading that's the flaw.

>>719804171 (OP)
>find the map dude
>next to him is a bench
>next to the bench is a room with five enemies giving five rosary beads each
>resting at the bench respawns the enemies
>you now have to farm that room until you have enough beads to purchase all the map shit from the map dude
bit of a pointless grind desu

>>719804171 (OP)
if people thought there were too large distances between benches and your corpse, then this game will take them for a fucking ride

>>719816148
Oh that must be why my $20 game studio idea popped into my head yesterday

>>719805893
Are you surprised? First game had a sub quest where you have to escort some gay faggot to his fag boyfriend. Fagllow Knight has always been woke.

Why are these threads allowed? The games been out for half a day. There's nothing to discuss anymore.

The tired Souls formula with the decaying kingdom, lore and characters is just fucking stale and predictable now.

I'm very early in but movement isn't too great yet if it even does improve.

>>719804171 (OP)
20 minutes in. Boring af

Starfield humiliation ritual continues with a beat down now by Silksong. Bethesda and bethdrones in a shambles.

>>719826328
>havent finished the game yet
Fuck off my board

>>719804171 (OP)
It should have been DLC for the first game

>>719811212
you buy it here (pro tip: farm currency in the room to the left, use bench to reset enemies)

>>719804171 (OP)
I'm not going to buy it. I bet it's the same bullshit design of their dlc, extremely hard and sadistic for no reason. I play games to have fun, not for bullshit. No thanks.

>>719822790
don't care

>>719805008
People who bitch about woke things are known to be crybabies and bitches, so their opinion means absolutely nothing.

>>719804171 (OP)
Simply copy-paste any flaw with the original and it will apply here. That in itself is a flaw.

I havent been this excited since I started my GAH Therapy uwu

>>719804171 (OP)
>click catalog

>"SHAWWWWW"

Scared the shit out of me

>>719805691
Shoulda played Castlevania dumbfuck

>>719804171 (OP)
aussie internet

>>719809931
She is at least 3.5 times as cute

no no nononoNONONONO
THE GAME IS FUCKING BORING
ALL THESE YEARS OF HYPE, AND ITS FUCKING BORING
THOSE YOUTUBE ESSAYS SAID HOLLOW KNIGHT WAS AMAZING SO WHY THIS IS A BORING ASS GAME AAAAAAAAAAA

Has anyone figured out if it's a prequel or sequel yet?

bros, it's peak

>>719829154
peak slop*

>>719806018
as a woman, I am playing

I got softlocked into the geometry by one of those enemies with scissors, really been enjoying the game despite of it and I just save and quitted to fix it

>>719828878
prequel dumbass

>>719811212
>How do you make a metroidvania with no map
Like this

>>719804171 (OP)
looks like a flash game (which is good for kids who want a simple look)
plays like a baby's first vania (which is good for kids as well)
Just make games for kids and sell tons, and some dumb adults will buy it too thinking it's for them

>>719804171 (OP)
buy an ad

Why the fuck are the savespots so far from the bosses? Most metroidvanias let you retry a boss immediately, feels tedious

>>719830636
Padding to make it longer disguised as le difficulty

>>719804171 (OP)
4.5 hrs into it, got the wall jump and have been revisiting previous areas for loot.
Main gripe I have is the map so far (hopefully this is just an Act 1 thing) has been extremely linear, sure, you get the one or two branching paths here and there but they always lead to a dead end. I loved HKs freedom to go where you want right when you get the wall jump and ground slam. So far just seems like a boss rush with some corridors in between with enemies to kill for sidequests. Hollow Knight had the better first few hours ngl.

>>719831021
>wall jump
Which zone?
I honestly can't be bothered and just want it asap.

>>719830783
Genuinely don't get how this game is so hyped, but then again I got baited by E33 too. It seems like an average indie game with some neat bosses, but it's not as enjoyable as the best in the genre like Super Metroid or Castlevania SOTN

>>719831120
Foresty area right after the gloomy raining city area. Boss that gaurds the entrance to the forest area is a cunt.

>>719804171 (OP)
nailbouncing is way worse

>>719804171 (OP)
>uglified girlboss who dont need no man protag
its shit

>>719820310
>>719819265
>>719831389
t. didn't play the game
you can change your moveset including pogo. pic related is just an example, i don't have the classic straight down pogo yet but it exists.

>>719831240
Cheers

>>719804171 (OP)
First hour is a bit slow.
Then it's a fucking rollercoaster the moment you get the dash and it becomes the silksong you imagined and it's awesome.

>>719805691
im convinced anyone who says this isnt playing on keyboard. it feels fantastic on kb

>>719820598
And it's the same problem both times. It's pointless tedium that the genre already had solved

>>719831676
That is too much power.
Holy fuck she's so OP.

No wonder they made her a game ay. It's Hollow Knight, but so much better and HK is pretty amazing.

i want a damn map

>>719830249
This might be one of the greatest games I've played so far.
It might actually beat Elden Ring for me.

>>719804171 (OP)

>troon game made by jew named 'ari"

where are the nail upgrades? I just did the flying boss in the cave and it took so many hits to kill, and i'm just feeling like everything is getting spongier

I feel kinda lucky to have discovered this. I can picture people going.
>Wtf she never comes back to camp

Can you attack diagonally and are the upgrades actually good in this one?

>>719832276
I don't mind the sponge because it's a challenge.
And you so many movesets just from the mere dash that you never get bored with a fight.
Lace was crazy fun.

>>719829840
Disappointing, I shan't be buying it.

>>719808691
TOTK got shit on for having the same fucking MAP

>>719832371
>her singing changes mode to suit the area's tune
This is crazy shit ay.

>>719832423
I initially didn't like it, but now it's better than HK for me with all the other moves. It kinda makes sense why it's like that and why enemies don't bounce off you as much as HK because she's so freaking fast that doing that sort of thing would ruin it.

I feel like this game is fringing on sonic.

>>719831143
Being a contrarian isn't a substitute for a personality.
I talk as someone who isn't interested on Hollow Knight at all but have Expedition 33 as my favorite game of 2025.

>>719804171 (OP)
too hard

>>719808691
>combat is not even remotely similar
>enemies behave totally different
>bosses are bordering on Nier Automata but feel like how Nier should have felt with a small main character buzzing around it killing it

It might have the same art style and some mechanics (like the equiv of stags, charms and soul) but that's about it. Even all of those are completely modified and changed.

>>719831143
Hollow Knight is way better than SOTN or Super Metroid

>>719832719
This shits all over E33 ngl. The combat is super fun. You feel like a mosquito with a sword and somehow it just werks.

>>719832780
This might be the metroid killer for me. Even dread wasn't anything like this. It has so much other shit going on.

>>719832852
>This shits all over E33 ngl
They're completely different games so not really.

>>719830636
What?
This is way better than HK with save spots.

>>719825253
>>719825152
>>719826375
>I also only played 5 minutes
Until you get dash it's not even silksong.
Then it's crazy.

>>719832936
Well E33 had okish turn based shit and art design. Silk has possibly the best 2D combat I've seen and so far even better art design somehow.

>>719831021
>Main gripe I have is the map so far (hopefully this is just an Act 1 thing) has been extremely linear
Kinda is, kinda isn't.
You have a choice of:
>use key
>beat obstacle miniboss
>go to fire area in bottom right


It is more linear feeling than HK, but I don't mind too much, because routing to destinations are possible here.

Find a SHAW

Have a Silksong jiggy,
https://jiggie.fun/0JEGY3

Was this a shadow drop?

>>719804171 (OP)
>Find a flaw.
I have to mute the site because somebody wanted to be cute and have an earsplitting shriek play every time I open the catalog. It ain't no harmony day, that's for sure.

>>719830636
It's a souls like

Fourth Chorus is too easy for how kino the fight is

>>719804171 (OP)
The fanbase is one of the most rabid autistic fanbases I've ever seen. They rival undertale, cyberpunk, and GTA fags.
After spamming every stream, their annoying posts, and threatening suicide cause silksong took so long for a team of three, they made it embarassing to like the game.

>>719804171 (OP)
i dunno. there's something that's missing. not enough tools i feel like. music is forgettable. the running is a nice addition but to be able to run jump, you have to take that one fucking step before hornet is able to jump and there has been one place where i felt like it wasn't my fault, but the fucking controls. add the fucking gliding ability into the mix and platforming can get messy.

>>719832780
>Hollow Knight is way better than SOTN or Super Metroid
Incorrect

>>719832607
uhh ok, but
Can you attack diagonally and are the upgrades actually good in this one?

>diagonal down slash is shit
>2 mask shard damage

Haven't gotten too far yet, but seems annoying that Fem Cornifer is going to be limited to arbitrary areas if I want to get all the map stuff purchased.

>>719804171 (OP)
OK I think I found a stable thread.
Do i need to play the first game in order to play this game?

>>719831676
If people are fucking crying HK is bad because first 2hours are slow. I really fucking wonder what its gonna be for Silksong, yea its dogshit but in 10 hours u get a crest which lets u play like a human.

Had to farm enemies for the balloon cloak thing.

>>719832780
Still worse than 悪魔城ドラキュラX 月下の夜想曲 though

Does anyone know where the 6th and final pollip is for the wish? The current marks I have on the map are where the other 5 are. I can't fucking the 6th HELP I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR ALMOST AN HOUR

>>719804171 (OP)
I'm further than most I would assume and the two currencies are a massive flaw. I dropped the first game because it's mediocre shit but I was willing to stick this one out until the end. The rosaries not dropping from every enemy is what will make me drop this game. I am in a massive area that is, of course, tedious to backtrack through. I cannot get any more currency to unlock the rest and fast travel points towards the end of it.

>>719805008
TRVKE

Currency grind required for unlocks. Losing currency on some akward deaths and then putting you behind is kinda BS, and the way to progress becomes.
>exit area
>enter area and kill first few mobs
>exit area
>reenter area
Its not fun. Also fuck the devs for souls tier level design.
>long ass section with no save point
>first save point after 15-30 minutes
>its a trap that can kill you

Should I do the Lava Castle place before the Forest area with the spear chuckers?

>>719832780
TRVKE

>>719834386
You can cheese the game hard by saving and quitting before you die, takes you back to the last bench.

>>719831545
>it's ok when metroid does it

>>719834497
>metroid
metroid is a man though?

>>719834478
Well shit I wish I knew that.

>>719804171 (OP)
>female protagonist

Women are not heroes. Women are not capable. Women are objects. It is that simple.

>>719826657
1 starfield is the equivalent of 3.5 silksongs, you lost.

>>719804171 (OP)
Far Fields is the ugliest, least atmospheric zone in both games. The zone lacks immersion and direction in atmosphere.

>>719834478
if it's anything like dark souls you can probably back up your save file right before the boss fight and save scum it.

>>719834564
this will never not make me chuckle like a retard every time i read it

The charm mechanic was better

can you equip multiple charms in this like the previous game? similar to the overcharming mechanic

i cant.
but he will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2_NdhPjMps

Does it get better once you get the sprint? Right now it's identical to HK.

>>719804171 (OP)
Well, it's no Hollow Knight.

>>719804171 (OP)
i don't like the diagonal attack. i can use it fine and the enemies are designed around it but i still prefer the downward pogo since it's a great defense for falling down and avoiding damage on spikes or enemies that are right below you. it just felt like it had more utility.
also i hate the red thingies, i feel like the hitbox could've been a bit bigger because i whiff them so easily

Should I play this if I only care about the porn?

>>719804171 (OP)
Overhyped mediocrity. If you're not autistic for the dumb story it's an average metroidvania.

>>719835159
you should kill yourself Imma be real witchu

>>719835159
You will probably get better kicks out of it if you don't have 7 years of expectations from the first game, and it is fairly solid metroidvania so far.

>>719835268
the average metroidvania isn't a bloated mess of tedium, it's far worse.

>>719835268
The only better metroidvania I can think of is the first game. Which metroidvanias would (you) consider above average?

This stupid fucking Aussies got rid of my perfectly good Ducktales parry jump in favor of a shitty diagnol dash that never registers and Cornifer’s calm humming to that dumb warrior bitch’s “AYEAYEAYE”

any dumb shit like zote getting killed if you don't find him?

>>719810659
Fitgirl already uploaded a repack. Just pirate if you're poor. The game had 550000 concurrent players. Even accounting for refunds they made 10 million £ in a single day. So don't feel too bad about it

WHY IS THE PGOO SO FUCKING BAD

>>719831676
>you can change your moveset including pogo.
it would've been nice if you could do that at the start instead of halfway through the game

Kinda regret getting this desu. It's just the same thing as the first Hollow Knight but greener.

>>719835627
jumping/bouncing puzzles based off of diagonal downward dash are fucking cancer

>First big area is a bunch of dogshit platforming with hurt floors with the worst downslash pogo ability possible
What the fuck were they thinking?

What do you expect from the first patch?

There are so many enemies and encounters in this game that are just flat out annoying as opposed to being fun in their difficulty. Turned the game off after I lost 300 beads cause I sat in the trap bench that killed my HP

>>719820310
Shoulda played Castlevania retard

>>719806959
>plays on a shitty laptop
>has shitty performance
Many such cases

>>719806959
I'm literally playing it on a GTX 960 2gb at 60fps
He either has a 10 year old GPU or is mentally ill

>>719804171 (OP)
I played for like 2 and a half hours and already punched through 4 areas? Was Hollowknight paced this quickly?

>>719838965
>4 areas
Anon, there is at least 20+ areas just by the achievements

>>719839416
I know there's going to be more, but the ones I've been in just went by so fucking quickly
25 different levels doesn't mean much when there's 15 minutes of content in each
I'm sure that changes going forward, but man it feels fucking weird right now

>>719836121
The currency system is one of the poorest design decisions I've seen in quite some time. I would start there.

>>719831143
>>719832780
I would say Super Metroid and Hollow Knight are equally as good, but SOTN is not in the same tier as those games, Aria is a little better but still

>>719839960
currency sucks ass jesus you need to pay for everything and you EARN Nothing

WHERE IS THE NAIL UPGRADE AT JESUS

>>719804171 (OP)
Is pogo patched yet?
Or is there a mod?

>>719839960
>>719840194
I don't get it, I always had money for everything, are you dying twice in a row and losing rosaries?

>>719804171 (OP)
shouldve been 80 dollars

>>719840541
it will be when some guy releases pogo mod for 60$

>>719840194
I'm about to drop the game at the desert area, we'll see how I feel tomorrow. They expect me to go farm the one guy that drops red just so I can get a fucking save point and fast travel at the end of this massive area.
>>719840513
No. I would suspect you are dying a bunch and it's all adding up. There is no currency in this game and I can barely scrape together maps.

So is Hornet a dyke or did I fall for shitposting? Everything I see online states it's all head canon.

>>719804171 (OP)
So from my testing VSync still has no triple buffering/fast sync and the in-game frame cap adds screen tearing for some reason. I feel massive input lag trying to chain short hops, you can test this by comparing how close you can stay near the ground

I guess I shouldn't have expected much from Team Cherry seeing how all the menus are the exact same. Zero tech knowledge.

>>719841282
She always has been.

>>719841282
>raised by 3 women
>the only man in her life is her step-brother she didnt even know she has
anon.... how is she NOT a dyke

>>719841282
It's been hours and I still haven't heard any story lore information. It's been nothing but people complaining about what filtered them all.

>>719806959
I have a 7 year old laptop that's falling appart with a 1050ti in it and it runs the game perfectly. What museum piece is this dude playing on?
Anyways, It's not true that it requires you to have played the previous game, but I kinda wish sequels like that were more common. Nowadays every sequel of a successful game is a more watered down version so that all the normies that heard about the previous game but didn't play it can jump in.

>>719836112
It's the pleb filter

>>719806959
>performance issues
His laptop has to be ancient. Theres no other way.

WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE BELLS EVERYWEHERTE IN THE SOME

THE MOUNT
THE MUSIC
THE BENCHES
THE BACKGROUND
THE BOSSES

7/10 GAME TOO MANY BELLS

FUCK THIS BELLGAME

DO I NEED TO PLAY FIRST GAME BEFORE THIS ONE

>>719816148
god I fucking wish
every game ever getting "but Silksong though" attached to it forever after would be funny as shit

team cherry can go eat a bag of dicks

Is it just HK but a new area? Or does it feel significantly different? I liked HK but enough to 100% it and I didn't really care about the DLC.

>>719846625
It’s a bit different but also a bit the same.

It's a boring game made for trannies?

>>719816148
wrong
you're just a tranny

>>719820490
It is much harder, at least.
The game expects you to basically understand the movement systems completely by the second boss.

>>719804171 (OP)
My only complaint is that when you acquire a new brand, it automatically equips it, meaning all your other bullshit gets unequipped. Even worse, it acts as a checkpoint, but there's no bench nearby to save so if you do want to use the Church of the Reaper entrance as a checkpoint to fight the boss, you have to do it without any of your items.

Though admittedly, the runback to the boss for Greymoor isn't too bad, but I'd much rather be able to just drop down from the church rather than hovering through a field of faggots just to fight the boss again. Also, Garmond and Zaza are the fucking GOAT.

Also, is it just me or is there a huge fucking difficulty spike between this faggot and the rest of the bosses prior to that point?

>>719825914
I didn't really get that one. Why not just give us the kit?
Also some of the navigation puzzles give rewards that feel kinda fucky. Like doing the tricky pumpkin hops to the end of that side area, and the reward is just currency where you have to get back now to actually use it.
I'm not ashamed to admit I lose all my money on that one. I am shit at platformers and that asked more than I could give, doing it both ways.

>>719830636
If you feel like you're going too far, chances are you missed one of the save areas at some point.

>>719841282
Hornet is for Bell Beast Cock ONLY.

>>719839960
Yeah, unless you farm, shit is expensive, and if you suck (like I do) its easy to just tank your bank account so you have to do it all over again.
Very much a lose-more situation.

I just got the crest that does the downward slash. Does it actually make those segments easier? Will my thumb get a break?

>>719847516
>Does it actually make those segments easier?
It makes using enemies as platforms harder, surprisingly enough.

Wow, it's dull and meandering just like the first game, who would've thought. When will people realize density is more important in level/world design and not size.

>>719831143
Hot Take: People who claim Super Metroid and Castlevania SotN are the best of metroidvanias are as boring and basic as people who claim Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast and Metallica's Master of Puppets are the best of metal.

>>719847142
>Also some of the navigation puzzles give rewards that feel kinda fucky. Like doing the tricky pumpkin hops to the end of that side area, and the reward is just currency where you have to get back now to actually use it.
Pause the game and hit save and exit and it teleports you to a bench keeping the shit you got since
is it supposed to work that way? no idea lol

why do no enemies drop fucking money? Everything is just this shit for the stupid throwables that caps out at 400. Im poor as fuck.

>>719804171 (OP)
Movement is disgustingly slow and boring and there are too many ability area gates at the end of long roads. Runbacks are boring. No, giving you shit hours in does not change this. Metroidvanias are about movement and exploration. Even ignoring the boring combat, the pacing is just too fucking slow.

>>719848035
Size is fine if you have the movement to account for it. In silksong, you do not.

>>719848035
>density
Play Space Invaders if you want density. Not a game where some of the most fun is wandering around the pretty levels or listening to the NPCs babble sing.
If you're that obsessed with never having downtime, just play Osu! or something.

>>719836121
Nerfing the early bosses damage to a single mask instead of 2.
Increased Rosary gain slightly or nerf the costs of early game items.
Improved hitbox of those little pogo plants.

>>719848443
You get a super fast dash in 10 minutes and theres fast travel stations every zone

>>719848357
That's because this game is a 2D souls like and not Metroidvania.

>>719836154
pranked lol

>>719804171 (OP)
why doesn't this garbage have shading?
the art sucks.

>>719848551
>You get a super fast dash in 10 minutes
I went through a couple of areas and then hunter's march and didn't get any fast dash.

>>719848608
>That's because this game is a 2D souls like
And that's why it's boring.

>>719836121
there is literally ZERO chance they keep the widow fight the way it is now. its an early/midgame boss with the first meaningful character upgrades locked behind it and it feels like the end boss of a DLC
>inb4 filtered
I beat it but I also cleared all the pantheons in HK1 and it still took over a dozen tries. The boss will absolutely wall a substantial percentage of the playerbase from even seeing 75% of the game

I don't like contact damage. It's fine for normal mobs, but it's bad for bosses. I did not enjoy the boss of Greymoor because of contact damage.

>>719848939
Ori had this same problem.
it's an outdated mechanic. real combat and hitboxes need to be the standard.

>>719848939
This is something I don't really like either.
Misspacing a boss that you're getting your hits in and losing two hit points for it feels shitty. Its not like you ate a hit, you just got too close while attacking.

>>719804171 (OP)
>tag: India

>>719848939
Contact damage is one of those old mechanics that a lot of great games had, but it was never good. Like random encounters. Having just played Shinobi which had no contact damage, it felt like extra shit here.

>>719848817
>Widow
How fucking long is this game? I just got to BELL-urat Tower Settlement or whatever it's called.

>>719849108
can't be arsed to boot the game up again, does hornet also move forward slightly when attacking on the ground? the lowest levels of Hell are reserved for devs who do that shit and ALSO include contact damage.

>>719804171 (OP)
Female protagonist.

>>719848338
Only pilgrims drop praynal beads, so your best bet is to farm an area with a ton of hostile pilgrims. Monsters drop shards which are used for projectile ammo.

>>719833638
Blame reddit and their silkpostings.

>>719804171 (OP)
Hunter's March

>>719849276
I don't think she moves forward, sometimes she'll move backward if she hits something coming towards her, though.

>>719847092
Nope, same here

>>719806018
thoughts on stellar blade?

>>719849238
widow is the boss of that area but you have to clear another area before you reach her
as far as how long it is by the time you reach the citadel you have seen 14 or the 28 maps in the game which is the start of act 2. I do not know beyond that and im not looking to seek out spoilers

>redditors already start complaining about two masks damage
it's just elden ring again....old babs think they are hot shit because they beat the previous games and get humbled

They succesfully made it more annoying to play than the first game.

>>719806018
Go play Astlibra, anon.

>>719849331
That is an awful system. I dont use projectile/equiptment that often so it invalidates 90% of the enemies lol

>>719849427
Nice. Can't help but feel I'm woefully underprepared since I only have two mask fragments. Maybe if I collected two more I wouldn't be eating shit from the enemies in the area?

>>719804171 (OP)
The area design feels uninspired so far. In HK there was strong visual design changes and color schemes to every area. Deep Docks stands out but I don't really enjoy steampunk in my bug game desu. Everything else is kinda forgettable.

>>719848771
It's literally in deep docks. Ya missed it.

Where's the map for the Far Lands?

>>719849872
Far Fields, fuck
I wish finding maps were easier

>>719804171 (OP)
The control scheme. Why the fuck is Tool UP PLUS SKILL? Whose retarded idea was that?

>>719848817
>Telegraph of the paths of their bell attack is somewhat subtle silk threads
>Background has a ton of similar looking webbing
What the fuck were they thinking?

Why does running make it so you're sliding around on ice?

>>719804171 (OP)
Oh cool it's like a Castlevania dagger! Limited uses, huh? That's fine I'm sure I can refill them along the way...
>Only refills at benches
Oh...that's fine, I'm sure they do good damage!
>Deals one swing worth of damage
A...alright then...I guess they are for emergencies or something when you really need that ranged damage...
>Requires one of your limited resources to be forcefully refilled at benches
...well maybe it's just for this one shitty weapon!
>All the weapons and tools are like this
.......
This is literally the antithesis of enjoyable game design, what the actual fuck were they thinking?

>>719850482
is that currency even used for anything other than tools and town repair donations? im 8 hours in and ive had perpetually a max stack of whatever that currency is called. it literally seems to be a nonissue

>>719850189
I don't mind the momentum when turning, but I hate jumping mid-run and Hornet suddenly feeling like she weighs as much as an elephant

>>719850482
That's what it means to be inspired by Dark Souls.

>>719850482
>Deals one swing worth of damage
It's pretty fucking good on a fast ranged attack in a game where just brushing an enemy can knock off 1/3 of your health

>>719850594
Honestly I just hate arbitrary resource management

>>719804171 (OP)
Too much zoom-in on the camera. I wish I could see more doesn't matter if Hornet is smaller

>>719850482
but it does good damage?

>>719850905
Not in a game where every enemy is a fucking damage sponge and you get such a paltry amount of them

>>719804171 (OP)
does she even go SHAW in this game?

When BioShock 2 came out, this board was fuming because it was just
>More of the same
And that's how I feel about silksong so far. Sure there's small changes like you take more damage or you have to pogo at an angle, but they feel pretty microscopic in the grand scheme of things. Much like how BioShock 2 had new plasmids and guns and yet it was still fundamentally the same as the first game. What the fuck did they do for 7 years?

>dash being a unlockable
only real flaw

>>719849585
>Ya missed it.
No, I just explored the harder looking area first as soon as I could reach it because I thought it would be more fun and have more fun rewards.

>>719804171 (OP)
How long is the game?

>>719848064
Number of the Beast and MoP are incredible amazing albums anon. This is actual contrarianism.

>Pop on NPR because I live in a car and need to listen to something
>Entire segment about Silksong and its impact on the landscape
>They couldn't consult the makers of the game
>They got fucking JASON SCHREIER to talk about it
Maybe the third tie I've been really disappointed in NPR. But the worst was when they had Gamergate consultant Brianna Wu

This game feels way less readable than the original, I don't know why. In those gauntlet fights with the map lady, I can't tell where fucking anything is on the screen. I routinely jump into an enemy because I thought my character was somewhere else, or get hit by an enemy projectile that looks exactly the same as the map lady's attacks. It's really weird. Something about the colours is just wrong.

>>719804171 (OP)
They removed the knockback and now enemies can actually get to me

>>719851349
>Maybe the third tie I've been really disappointed in NPR.
This says way more about you than anything else.
NPR is literally Jewish commie propaganda

>>719804171 (OP)
I played Braid 20 years ago. I'm over Xbox live arcade slop.

>>719827475
Pop off xister

did anyone get to the watch tower from the trailer yet

>>719848817
Man I can get through the first phase untouched but then the second phase just spits so much fucking bullshit at you that it broke my will for the night
Worst of all my cocoon is stuck there so I'm basically committed unless I want to lose a bunch of rosary beads
The game is fun but I feel like the difficulty is heavily ramped up
It feels like I'm half way through the game and yet I'm still made of paper and hit like a wet noodle
Also I really really wish they had just given you a straight down pogo
Like I get why they didn't but it would've been so much fucking cooler

one thing i both like and hate about the original game is that the charms allow builds for specific playstyles (spellcasting, nail arts, reliable focus healing, and so on) but you never get enough charm notches to get creative enough to make something truly broken
yeah the game limits you to only do one thing at a time, but you can never really do enough with that thing to the point it becomes something that feels especially strong (e.g. you can't equip soul eater + quick focus + quick slash + mark of pride without getting overcharmed)
i know it keeps things challenging as part of the balance, but it would still be a nice reward to be strong

do we know how well silksong does its customization or is it still too early?

>>719850482
They had to make it that way since they decided to go with 2 different enemy drop currencies this time, and since half the enemies don't drop the main currency (rosaries), there would be little incentive to even fight the rest of them if you didn't have some kind of expendable resource to grind for (which still happens since there is a hard cap on that resource).
It's definitely a questionable design decision, limited use tools between rest points in any video game is always an anti-fun mechanic, especially when it feels like an afterthought. It's not the tools are some room clearing super bombs or anything.

>>719851828
desu it feels more restrictive but I'm not that far in
that said, there are more customization vectors - you have more knobs to tweak, but you tweak them less, if that makes sense

Anyone find the third key in the prison.
Legitimately fucking filtered here and cant find it

>>719804171 (OP)
She killed ALL of these

Found 3 crests and they all seem underwhelming, and the attacks are shit. Still using the original one.
Wanderer seems good but the contact damage in this game is just too much to use it with my limited skill.

>>719851702
>Also I really really wish they had just given you a straight down pogo
The reaver and wayfearer charm give you that.

>>719852126
I haven't gotten the wayfarer charm yet
Once widow gets done raping me in the ass I'll go buy a key and pick it up and try it out
The reaper crest is too slow

>>719848817
I had more trouble with that big moth (Beast something) optional boss than with Widow.
First phase is stupidly easy and second is basically just be patient and throw your attack items at her when you can. Boomerang is pretty damn strong.

does she go SHAW at all??

MOORWING IS A FUCKING NI-

>>719852208
If you have the wall climb wayfarers to the left of the first town right where you climb out of the cave after the first moss queen boss.

>>719851702
if it makes you feel better you actually start getting nail upgrades directly after that boss and the game for me has felt a lot easier after her(him?) although the fights ive done since are not major bosses
you just gotta get through it and the game opens up a lot more. you are also nowhere near halfway through the game at that point, closer to ~1/4th

>>719806959
This runs on Chinese emulator handhelds with box86. Literally a skill issue.

>>719852290
HOW BIG IS THIS FUCKING GAME

>>719804171 (OP)
Bosses all do double damage

>>719852290
Thanks anon

>>719851349
The only reason to listen to NPR is to get the midwit faggot's take on current events for a laugh. ISHYD take it seriously at all.

>start up game
>ACT 1
.......

>>719852290
>you actually start getting nail upgrades directly after that boss
WHERE
I BEAT HER ASS AN HOUR AGO AND HAVEN'T SEEN DICK

>>719804171 (OP)
I have a couple
>enemies have too much health
>some section really do need a bench or two because they are too long
>diagonal attacks are not as cool or good and down attacks form the first game

>>719804171 (OP)
Main protagonist is a woke independent black woman who need no men

>Have to jump on a bunch of red pads
>There's a direction change halfway
>Silk decides she just wants to slash normally
>Fall all the way down
About to go outside and start squashing bugs irl.

>>719827475
?
Didn't you "people" literally riot because a troon flag crosswalk got skidmarked by a truck?

>Vengefly King looking ass mfer harder than NKG or Pure Vessel
>Your "reward" for beating him is a worse moveset.
What were they thinking?

>>719816148
that is a good thing

>>719852503
bell town after the curse is lifted. its one of the houses where you platform to using the platforms on the left side of the town

>>719852583
the moveset looked really fun and then i realized it turns off your heal lmao
what the fuck were they thinking with this garbage

>>719816148
>games should take 10 years to make

>>719852616
>>719852503
also forgot to mention after you get your shit upgraded to talk to the nail smith again because he has a quest for your next upgrade

>>719852616
thank you anon
i somehow completely forgot that you could go up in the town so i missed that entirely

>>719851567
I'm a dude. Stop being a cunt.
>>719852567
I wasn't there. Stop being a bitch about people with different genitals than you.

>Death Stranding 2
>Shadow of the Erdtree
>Now Silksong
Fuck, man. Maybe I just don't like sequels. I was going to play the Lies of P DLC soon but maybe I'm just over this shit. None of these hyped games have been all that good.

>>719836940
No 2D game should need hardware this side of 2010.

>>719804171 (OP)
I'm enjoying it so far, but here are a few gripes.
>Bench placement feels extremely random. Sometimes there's a new one or a shortcut every few rooms, but then suddenly nothing (the Hunter's March gauntlet was especially tedious).
>I get why they had to start out as hard as they did for returning HK players, but the difficulty is a bit Artificial (TM), and it seems like every enemy you find does 2 masks of damage instead of 1. Your entire healthbar can evaporate instantly if you have an unlucky fuckup.
>The map guy disappeared and now I don't know where to find him (no, he's not at Not Dirtmouth), and so I'm stuck in Shellwood without a map.
and last and most refund-inducing:
>no SHAW!
That's all for now. Thanks for letting me vent in your thread, OP. I'm going back to Splinter Sister attempts.

>>719806959
How does he know you had to play the previous one if he didn't play it? The first boss was a green fly with like 2 attacks I think as well so I'm take whatever this shitter has to say with a huge grain of salt.

>>719852281
at least you got to kill him, if you fiinish the flea quest from the first town the move to where you fight him and now i guess hes gone? pretty lame if i miss out on shit because of this

>claw my way through an area
>finally find a bench
>have to pay for it because of course you do
>pay for it
>"oops that bench looks like it's jammed haha sorry you can't use it"
FUCK
YOU
AUSSIE
NIGGERS

>>719804171 (OP)
Heres 2 right from the get go.

>>719854760
I'm glad that my country is known for trolling you all

>>719804171 (OP)
Kinda shit character designs not gonna lie

>>719854760
The fake out bench in hunter's march didn't get me, but statistically speaking someone definitely died to that shit after the ant gauntlet and probably uninstalled the game.

where do i go next in this lava area?
all the right paths require double jump or shit like that
the bottom door is sealed

I just want to say that Widow is fucking bullshit.

>>719811081
im gonna jerk off to this

>>719846457
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxYnAZRa4BgsAU4pAePSNE9pbOJEgQuSQ0?si=3WCzUWSApi3GKBUG

>>719854248
Ring the bell in the first town and the map chick shows up

>>719804171 (OP)
China hates it.

>>719855531
go to the outlined area and get the upgrade there dummy

>>719804171 (OP)
pick 1

>>719829840
HEY STUPID

JUST WATCHED AN ALL ENDINGS VIDEO

ITS A SEQUAL DIPSHIT AHAGSHAHSGSGABABABAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>719851194
The point isn't that they're not great, anon. They are. The point is that a person who thinks the most well known entry level stuff is the best of an entire genre have barely scratched the surface.

>>719856226
>nearly every single one filtered by the diagonal thrust
Is it just shitters all the way down? Is it really that hard to wrap your reflexes around or is this a "can't rotate apples in their head" moment?

This is genuinely pathetic.

the music doesn't click with me
I'm in deep docks and still not a single memorable track

>>719805008
Truth.

>>719856830
It seems like they've gone for a more ambient approach this time. not as many melodies.

>>719841282
>>719841531
>>719841787
Astroturf somewhere else tranny.

does the hollow knight guy shows up or has a cameo in this game at all

>>719805691
>down attack is fucking uncomfortable to use. literally unplayable
It especially sucks when the first game was perfect in this regard and they just changed it for the sake of changing it.

>>719856883
ori

>>719805691
>>719858338
see >>719856027

The game's really punishing if you ever need to heal. The silk attack does like 3 hits of damage, so 6 hits for your whole bar. That's a LOT of damage you miss out on by healing. I feel like it's a bad design choice. Not because you should be getting hit, but because healing is like the first mechanic they show you in the game and it's stupid if it's that much weaker.

>>719855753
thanks bro

>>719827475
ywnbaw lil troonie

>>719804171 (OP)
游戏是好游戏,无奈汉化组就是一坨臭狗屎
这臭狗屎汉化组句子翻译出来的句子不通顺都是其次,他甚至能夹带私货篡改team cherry本来的意思
比如开局教堂侍女对大黄蜂说:“few are as foreign as you hunter dear,”翻译成中文应该是,“亲爱的猎手,像你这样的生面孔不常见”
然后丝之歌的臭狗屎汉化组翻译成了:“很少有虫子像你这样,俏丽的猎手”,不提这诡异的语序了,俏丽在英文原文的哪里?
当年星露谷也请了夹带私货的臭狗屎汉化组,但是他被玩家喷的已经滚了
那么丝之歌的臭狗屎汉化组什么时候滚?

>>719830204
Yea, and that game fucking sucked (for other more significant reasons)
but the lack of a map definitely didn't help

>>719857263
Anime site

>>719855407
You're not lying. Unimaginative simplistic design from someone with no artistic ability. All the characters look like the they were designed by me in my first semester as a graphic design student who just learned how to use Adobe illustrator lmao. Terrible. Also faggot reddit game.

>>719804171 (OP)
The transition from death to bench is too fast

>>719858807
?? I'm saying keep spamming your tranny headcanons somewhere else subhuman.

>>719858702
It has its strengths and weaknesses. I enjoyed it after patching in health refill on death.

reddit boycott coming soon
tick tock silknigger

>>719804171 (OP)
I'm not really a fan of how healing works this go around.
it felt restrictive in Hollow Knight in a way that encouraged you to just not get hit more than trying to find an opportunity to heal all the time. This time, the heal takes up your entire mana bar, it gives three hearts, and you can only do it on full charge until you get enough upgrades.
In Hollow Knight, it was slower, and only healed one heart, but also only took a third of your default max. It was useful mostly out of combat as a way to keep going while still letting you cast the occasional spell without too much worry that you'll need it later.
If you use one weapon art, you need to get another five hits on an enemy to be allowed to heal, and that just makes me not want to use those special attacks.

It's a weird set of mixed signals. It's easier to do, and heals more, so you'd think it's supposed to actually be used regularly in combat now, but then it drains all your mana, meaning that you should just stick to sword hits if you really want to have a chance at using the heal when you need it.

>>719804171 (OP)
she talks too much

>>719855753
>Ring the bell in the first town
FUCK, it's that simple?

>>719804171 (OP)
This is going to sound silly but it's the $20 mark, objectively speaking. This game is more valuable than the price they're charging, everybody knows it. They're sitting on a $45 game and only asking for a twenty. This is messing with other indie developers something fierce, and it's undercutting even AAA games being a AA title with A pricing. It's messed up that a trio 3 devs can be millionaires and under price their product and make millions more like this, again it sounds silly but this is basically economic terrorism.

>>719854248
>Your entire healthbar can evaporate instantly if you have an unlucky fuckup.
welcome to Hollow Knight, this isn't new

>>719861075
i'm turning 38 this month and even i've made it to act 2 in 6 hours. these trannies got to get gud.

>>719804171 (OP)
One? Boring as fuck like the main game

>>719861747
You are completely fucking retarded, and you are lucky that I am bored so that I will explain why you are a fucking mongoloid
They perfectly well knew every 10$ their sales would halve
I thought they wouldn't and they would release the game at 40$ and would have a 50k player peak tops, but they were actually smart, and released it at the price that people would buy
You, however, are a fucking retard