Thread 719838591

Every boss seems to deal 2 mask damage, the room challenges are fucking retarded (pic related was fucking disgusting), the massive hunter's march section without a bench was harder than path of pain, and normal enemies like the scissor wielding guys would be midgame bosses in hollow knight. Team cherry is 100% gonna tone down the difficulty later on.

Just don't get hit.

You control the buttons you press.

>>719838591 (OP)
You're not supposed to head to Hunter's March.

>post nerf
you didn't beat the game

Its pretty rough, just beat Skull Tyrant and fucker must have taken over 50 hits from my basic nail.

>>719838878
I almost got memed into buying it due to /v/ at the moment. until I saw how many hits shit takes to die. Holy fuck interest dropped immediately

>>719839210
I mean I might just be a retard and missed my basic weapon upgrade, I feel like I should have found one by now but I have not.

>>719838591 (OP)
Get good.

>>719838687
Ever?

>>719838591 (OP)
the bigger issue is that everything has bloated ass HP for no fucking reason
>fight widow for 3+ minutes
>kill her
>lol faggot that was only phase 1 btw phase 2 has the same amount of health as phase 1
it's just stupid.

>>719838591 (OP)
Git gud.

>>719838591 (OP)
Give it a few days and look up guides. Let the Conquerors pave the way.

>>719838685
I'm about to control my dick in ur ass faggit.

>>719839473
Idk about upgrades but I watched some early bosses on YouTube and the videos were literally like 5 minutes of dodging the same moves. It looks like shit takes forever.

>>719840632
yeah, that's my biggest complaint with the game so far. fourth chorus especially, that boss takes absolutely zero effort to dodge but his "fight" is arbitrarily drawn out because he has a bajillion hp.

>>719838591 (OP)
Sounds good, great even

>>719838591 (OP)
it IS too hard. But nowdays we cant complain about difficult anymore because of the git gud tards.
Its fucking boring, bosses take forever to die

>>719838591 (OP)
>>719839210
>>719841227
Obviously TC was assuming several million players of the first game had 6 years to get good enough to beat the pantheon, and I respect that. If it was too easy and didn't elevate the skill ceiling within the same combat design from the first game, people would be dunking on it for that.

>everyone creaming themselves over hunters march
the enemies were tanky but i mostly had no issue going there as soon as possible. i guess this is what p5 all bindings does to a nigga
>>719841227
My bosses have been dying in 1-2 minutes

This is like hollow knight 1, if you can land hits very frequently and make the most out of all enemy attacks you can kill them very fast. In the early game im using the spike trap and it deals sexcellent damage

The savage beastfly has me raging and Im not usually one to get pissy at video games. This fight blows so much and is honestly making me not want to play the game.

where are the fucking nail upgrades for fucks sake

>>719838591 (OP)
Yep, they fucked up and the game is too hard, no wonder it's flopping.

>>719840632
normies get what they deserve for praising elden ring. you want more of that shit? here you go.

is moorwing the first great filterer? Besides the easy diagonal pogos anyway. It was the first boss where I actually had to learn the cues. I’m playing on keyboard as god intended.

>>719841227
This was 100% the case for like, every single boss they added to HK after it launched but you weren’t allowed to say anything bad about difficult content ever.

>>719840632
youtubers arent very good at the game
>>719840795
his hp is too high but you can kill him in 2 minutes
use the spike trap btw its damage is sexy

>>719846541
Grimm is kino and you're a pleb.

frrrrggggggggggggggg rrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhh

Can someone tell me where the fuck the map seller in the 4th area went? She's the one that sits on the ground and she fucked off before I could buy anything.

>>719846853
nvm i beat it

These fucking BOULDERS are a bit ridiculous

>>719846332
The bird gauntlet before him

>>719847342
The fire ones for the quest? Where the fuck is the third one? I looked all through bone bottom and couldn’t find it.

>>719844916
there are none

>>719846810
>dude just fight this boss that spews random shit every where all the time and everything does at least 2 HP and you never have time to heal and you can never use ranged attacks and if you die you have to walk all the way down a super long corridor for no reason
>lmao

i'm glad that more things do 2 damage now. It was SO FUCKING ANNOYING when all of a sudden stuff started doing 2 damage in HK1 and your mask upgrades are just negated

>>719847570
One's near the bottom towards bone bottom, one's at the very top of the marrow, and one is before the entrance to dry docks up top (or so I remember it)
I was bitching about the falling rocks though, there's bells later on too. Fucking annoying

>>719847705
I'm sorry to hear you have difficulty playing video games, try checking out Animal Crossing as it seems more your style.

>>719844916
Bellhart, after freeing them

why does everything have SO MUCH FUCKING HEALTH JESUS CHRIST

>>719847776
instead your mask upgrades are negated from the start, because when everything does 2 damage there's no functional difference between having 5 health and 6

>>719849932
just like khazan..., god i fucking despise this, its artificial difficulty

>people honestly expected Silksong to be easier or the same as HK
lmao

>>719841950
If I took a tally there were probably well over a hundred posts declaring that Silksong would be easy as pie because we were tempered by Godhome. This shit is basically just a continuation of Godhome.

>>719844916
have to beat a NKG tier boss to even get the first one. No, I'm not joking.

>>719850898
>artificial difficulty
>why don’t I have a BBC my normal sized white cock is artificial difficulty

>>719851583
Why wouldn’t they? It’s a sequel, not a Kaizo Mario hack.

>>719851929
>It’s a sequel
it's a retooled DLC

>>719839835
This is where i am, legit don't kmow how i am gonna beat phase 2

>>719838591 (OP)
I beat the bird arena on the 1st attempt. Learn to movement.

Every enemy is primal aspid

I don’t see the godhome comparisons. Listen, the bosses are challenging and some do more damage, but c’mon now. Godhome was hard because
>it was an endurance test
>Markoth, Nightmare King Grimm, Pure Vessel, and Absolute Radiance
and so far there hasn’t been a single boss that’s been harder than those. Now maybe later on, they will. I don’t know. I do hope there isn’t a boss rush in the game as is because I don’t ever wanna do pantheons again.

I love seeing people struggle with stuff I thrived with. I can't believe the ant boss is filtering people. I can't believe people hate the diagonal pogo. This game is so fucking fun.

>>719852843
This game is like pulling teeth

>>719852904
You're playing with the wrong mindset. It's a planning type game, if you can't learn from mistakes and or try to rush through combat you'll have a hard time. During run backs you do not have to fight enemies, and bosses have a bench nearby in 9/10 times - If it's far, there is a route you can take without combat. It's even nice enough to put your cocoon outside of the arena. What are you struggling with?

>>719852710
i'm not going to say savage beastfly is objectively a harder boss than NKG, but i died more times to it than i did to NKG so it's almost undoubtedly overtuned for how early in the game it's accessible.
these early bosses feel like you're playing with the bindings on since everything does an assload of damage and you have very few abilities that actually help you in combat.

>>719838687
There's no indication of that because the enemies still die easily there.

>>719852710
I didn't have Shadecloak when I attempted NKG in his DLC. I made him my bitch in Godhome and only lost to him in my P5 attempt once because I forgot his fight.
Widow is a fucking atrocity and I learned so much from that fight that I didn't know prior and it pretty much beat my HK1 reflexes out of me. I figured out that healing is a tap and not a hold, I figured out that you can heal in midair, I figured out that I can get angrier than I've ever been at vidya without breaking my controller into a million pieces, etc.
I can say that at 6 masks he's harder than NKG or PV with a fully masked and charm-kitted Ghost. AbsRad also didn't take me this long. Their Radiant difficulties sure.

>>719852992
Sister splinter was really chaffing my ass but I just beat her. Now I’m fighting widow and I know it’ll be another slog to learn her moves and win. I might go back and explore and see if I can make myself more powerful. I have 3/4ths of a mask so maybe more health would help

>>719838591 (OP)
The problem isn't the difficulty because rooms like that are a clear indicator that you're on the wrong, too difficult path and should try another route, that's a great, natural way of telling the player off while not outright forcing a more skilled player to abandon it.
The problem is that copying the FromSouls design can lead to frustrating sequences where if you walk into that room with 200+ rosary beads like I did, then you're forced to complete it or forever lose what you just accumulated over the last three hours, and obviously fucking nobody in the world is going to willingly accept that loss.
Copying souls for no reason other than its popular worked fine for Hollow Knight because it added nothing there so it could be ignore, but it actively adds nothing to Silksong at best, while being super frustrating and forcing players to play an area they don't want to at worst.

Fuck /v/ You talk so much shit but can't play games.

>>719838591 (OP)
>have to pay 30 beads to trade with the merchant in the area you get the floating skirt
Fuckkkk you. That is just difficulty and friction for the sake of it.

>>719853239
I called it on Savage Beastfly because fuck off with all the adds. It should only be able to pull 2 adds top, but no it has had up to 3 and if you're unlucky enough to get the big ones and it doesn't ground pound you're pretty much just fucked. I feel I should just backtrack for some stuff but given how far away a station is I really don't want to.

>>719838591 (OP)
Beat that boss first try get fucking good

Also beast crest is so god damn ass what were they thinking

>>719854240
Sister Splinter is AIDS as well for this reason

>>719854009
Has been for a while now.

>>719838591 (OP)
Just wait until you get to the REAL problems
I'm fucking bankrupt on shards

>new game comes
>out of every place to discuss games on the internet, /v/ is the one complaining the most about the difficulty
What happened to this place?

>>719853239
I beat nkg on my first try and beat savage beast fly just now in two tries... is this just the thread where everyone admits theyre shit at video games. I genuinely baffeled by this. Are you fags just using basic strikes and not any of the other tools in your kit? Kill the adds with your throwing daggers, use the silk flurry instead of the needle throw its not that fucking hard

>>719854445
/v/ always does this. /v/ sucks at games.

Use your kunai you fucking retards, it deals the same damage as a regular attack or pretty close to it but it's ranged.

>>719853987
They're copying the retarded design even Miyazaki moved away from in Sekiro and ER. The runbacks are fucking trash.

What the fuck I just got caged and dumped in a prison.

>>719854450
You dont have sex very often do you? LOL!

>>719838591 (OP)
Is the Chapel of the Reaper after this optional like the Beast Chapel is or should I be doing that?

>>719854450
You guys are such liars. Either that or you’re in the top 0.000001% of talent. I argued with a guy on this board that said he beat Erdtree DLC radahn on his first try without summons or a cheese build. Just shameless lying.

>>719846332
not sure if a glitch or what but i got the flea quest done while looking for upgrades, they move to where you fight him and now hes just gone? im kinda pissed, i hope i dont miss out on quests and shit because of this. im actually thinking of just droping the game... bought it on a whim. also i was trying to look up if anyone else had a similiar issue/ solution but JESUS CHRIST there is 7 YEARS of fucking lame Reddit memes to wade through.

>>719853987
Yep, I'm basically committed to grinding Widow now with 5 masks and base silk because I dared to enter the boss room instead of travelling across the map to spend my shit. I'm enjoying the game but I wish they took the lies of P approach and put your shit just before the boss entrance

>>719853987
>losing beads
Just buy the rosary strings so you don’t lose them, ez

>>719854445
tbqf most places probably haven't played long enough to get to the hard shit

USE YOUR FUCKING TRINKETS/GADGETS RETAAAARDS
SHARDS ARE PISS EASY TO GET YOU WON'T RUN OUT OF THEM

STOP GOING SUPER OFFENSIVE AT EVERY BOSS
SIT BACK AND LEARN THE ATTACKS FIRST

>>719854748
The chapels are where you get moveset upgrades. And they unironically lock you out after collecting them and leaving.

>>719854748
You get a Crest for doing it

This game is the Dark Souls of the Hollow Knight series.

>>719854894
I was getting filtered by the Savage Beastfly so I decided I would come back after getting at least one nail upgrade. I'm at the Flea Troupe in greymoor currently.

>>719854893
Uhmmm ahahahh
how do i get those again

>>719854893
I ran out of shards fighting Widow...

>>719838591 (OP)
im at pic related and its why i went here to bitch
flying enemies with shit hitboxes and your tiny dick needle
how fucking annoying of a fight

>>719838591 (OP)
It's really not that hard, the game is just boring as fuck full of tedious backtracking, long runbacks, and rosary farming.

who designs a metroidvania where armor upgrades dont exist and health upgrades are so fuckin scarce?

Is this guy beatable or am I just wasting my time?

>>719854938
Its the elden ring shadow of the erdree of the dark souls hollowvania genre

>>719854348
Getting to this piece of shit everytime after dying is the real boss fight.

>>719855032
Flying enemies have way too much health. There's no way it should take me 6 hits to kill this fucker that loves to float just outside of my range

>>719855150
He's beatable. Probably not worth it

What the FUCK were they doing for the last 7 years?

Is he right? Wtf is this game? >>719854909

>>719854240
Use your fucking skills. If there are too many adds then just throw your spear, it one shots most of the enemies and if it doesn't then you only need like one or two hits after that.

>>719853239
Literally how? I did it on probably my 5th try and most of my deaths were just being dumb and jumping into the slam. NKG was much harder and had me stuck for a while.

>>719855150
You can beat him but it's a waste of time.

>>719855087
this... and its hard.

>>719855087
If you remove the run backs are just spawn the player outside of the boss room the illusion of the game would fall apart. It would feel extremely short and underwhelming

>>719855168
whats fuckin great is you jump towards them, and they have the most godlike footsie game and move accordingly
holy fuck this kunai pigeon is the most annoying fucker
on top of this thing and the red ant, having no real telegraph for the instant jump or fly down attack

>>719838591 (OP)
Just spam your tools and they'll melt most regular enemies.

>>719854893
i will snatch your every fukken birthday. YOU FUCK. YOU GODSDAMN BENCHOD. SHUT THE FUCK UP. SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.
FROG!!

>>719855218
No the fuck it wouldn't retard, the game is massively bloated and way too long due to this stupid time-wasting bullshit.

This game makes me look at hornet as a weak little shit and the little ghost as the chaddiest of chads

Holy shit, i have been stuck for 3 hours already. Where the fuck should i go? Can't proceed further in lava area and in the grey area there is only the angry fag that i can't beat no matter what.

alright where the fuck do i go after far fields in greymor? left?
right beings me to OPs image and im gettin sick of these enemies.

>>719854763
I dont know what to tell you anon, you can not believe me on nkg all you want but tbf it was right as he was added after i 100%ed the base game so i was maxed out. Hes really not that hard just dodge and charge attack.
As for the savage faggot i dont see how you guys are getting filtered by it. He literally has 2 fucking attacks and gives you plenty of time to heal. Just kill the adds first then hit him thats all theres is to it. If you think thats the top .00001% of skill then maybe you should just stop playing games, its not for you

>>719855187
>>719855194
alright thanks senpai I'll just run past him every time then

>>719855154
Yeah, this place is fucking hell. I lost all my beads already.

>>719855218
thats what cup head is, but your right, short and underwhelming and easy.

>>719855146
team cherry doesn't like making the metroidvania aspect of actually getting stronger, they just wanted to make a difficult platformer similar to something like IWBTG, and upgrades would take away from that.

>>719855154
This. Genuinely want to say this was the worst runback of any game I've played.

Why does every fucking enemy take 4 or 5 hits

>>719855415
But in the lava area it seems that i need double jump or something to get further.

this game is just as clunky as volgar the viking lmao

>thought Hollow Knight couldn't possibly get any more tedious time-wasting bullshit
>they add rosary farming and fetch quests

>>719855295
Explore until you found dash. Hes a soft check for you finding the dash, but some of my friends just kind of brute forced there way past him. If you have the dash already and are still dying then stop being bad at videogames

>>719855168
The game wants you to make liberal use of your tools. That fly for example will die with 2 daggers, and the threefold set you can find early on will usually melt most basic mob encounters.

>>719855459
Those were already in hollow knight though

>>719855453
you get dash. i have it circled for you

Really liking the fame but stuff in the begging is a lil too tanky and some attacks shouldn’t do that much damage, am I missing like some nail upgrades and some masks? I don’t know I just feel that I haven’t progressed that much, I’m now in the sand area but I’ll turn back and see what I’m missing tomorrow

>>719855482
They shouldn't have made tools need a currency to replenish

I see people talk about a beastfly, where is that?

>>719855191
That game is hard but not in remotely the same way. Also, once you understand how it works fully, you can just break it in half. With a few exceptions...Villith's Drain is still fucking brutal, and the path to Jalta Lake to the left of the start is also impossible to cheese due to the static square up in the sky.

>>719855489
Who could forget harvesting 25 grub spines for the Elderbug in the original Hollow Knight

>>719855506
*game
God why the fuck does that happen so many fucking times

>>719838591 (OP)
i was really struggling until I hoped in vc with my discord bf and he did some asmr affirmations for me while I took my hrt and got comfy, maybe try that?

>>719846332
I just used beast stance and hit him while throwing all my tools at him. Almost every boss can be beaten this way.

>>719855525
It's a common resource that every single enemy drops anyway, and by the time they start becoming necessary for clearing the larger ares you'll likely be capped on shards.

This is one of those games that is just a miserable chore to play but people still pretend it's good just because it has a high level of polish

I just realized that I can run by holding in the dash button, and that hornet can heal while jumping in the air. Any other core gameplay features that took you guys a while to notice?

>>719855525
This. What's the point of a currency for using your tools? Can't they just make them have charges and recharge at bench? This just punishes you further if you're struggling against a boss or challenge room.

>>719855525
The currency is a literall non issue

my only issue with the game so far is pogo'ing and the fact that literally every other enemy has double damage, like cmon we barely had ANY in hollow knight and your telling me a buncha fat birds and random entities get double damage, the same amount of damage as the god of hollow knight in its peak performance

>>719855640
You can also swim fast by holding the button

You guys are just having trouble wrapping your heads and muscle memory around the novel mechanics. Just keep at it you impatient fags.

>>719855627
Yes but only if your a devoted contrarian

>>719838591 (OP)
I just did this one, died a few times but it wasn't that bad since the bench is like 2 rooms away
but FUCK the one in Hunter's March, that one was complete aids

Dont have enough money for a map? Teehee looks like you need to go grind the 2 enemies that actually drop money 3 different maps away.

>>719855691
>game has a female protagonist
>suddenly enemies start doing absurd amounts of damage

>>719838591 (OP)
It better be, Hollow Knight was pathetically easy

>compass still takes up a charm space
this was the worst thing about the original and they carried it over

>bird up high
>jump to hit him
>he lowers down and body hits me
this is fuckin retarded.

>>719854809
I had this as well.
>fight bird
>say fuck it i'll do it later
>flea people move in
>bird has now fucked off?????
Anyone have an answer for this? I didn't want to skip the fucker.

>>719855150
Beatable. Journal entry.

>>719855651
Their brains are still in 2018. Please understand.

I'm in THAT area huh

>>719855841
I still maintain that damage for just touching enemies is the laziest shit.

>>719855835
Only valid criticism of the game thus far said. We literally have a Compass no matter what mod for this

>>719855691
>>719855781
The knight is just built different.

>>719855934
the erratic assholes suck and being able to only hit up/down/left/right with a tiny needle is the most fundamentally stupid thing they have implemented and use for any sort of difficulty.
this is the clunkiest piece of shit ive ever played. why did people praise this?

Am I missing some nail upgrades a masks? I’m like at the start of the sand area, everything just does too much damage and it’s too tanky, I’ll go back to the ant zone with the wall jump to see if there’s something new there

It's fucking retarded like only 20% of the enemies you fight actually drop beads. It just forces you to go find a spot to grind instead of just getting them by playing the game.

I got softlocked in the Lace fight. I threw like 4 traps from outside the arena and when I entered and triggered the boss fight my character just froze in place. I was invulnerable to damage but I couldn't do anything else, I couldn't even pause. Had to force close the game.

>>719855540
English please

>pirated original game
>paid for this one
Wish I could reverse that.

>>719855968
>everything just does too much damage
Get used to it. Most enemies and traps will do 2 masks of damage.

>>719855968
Also at what point am I really supposed to enter the bird area? Like if you wan to move forward that’s the only way no?

>>719855618
And then the later, better tools like caltrops cost a fuckton to refill to the point where you're out if you lose to a boss four times.

We can all agree the game would be way better if:
>shards removed
>rosary loss on death removed
>bench fee removed
>twice as many benches
>draw map based on exploration rather than having to buy it
>cut the fetch quest bullshit
>actual rewards and power gain for progression and boss kills
>rosary beads don't bounce around all the fuck over the place
>many spongy bosses and trashmobs had their HP reduced (or just give a fucking damage upgrade earlier)

As it is right now, it's dogshit

>>719855973
thats my plan for today just collect anal beads and upgrade shit

>>719855982
Serves you right for being a pussy
Lace is actually fun and there's a bench right outside

>>719856052
beads bouncing around is such a retarded design

>>719855973
My favorite is when the beads are deleted by spikes

>>719855992
Funny bat momentum memes go brrrr except in two places.

Why am I reading reading about Shakra helping with the ant combat room? She never showed up for me. I had to solo that shit.

>>719856052
Also remove the contact damage from most enemies and make compass a passive upgrade that doesn't take up a slot

It's like this game could be fun if the devs didn't absolutely fucking hate the playerbase.

>>719856057
I was just curious what would happen, I didn't think it was an very hard fight. It was actually the most fun boss imo.

>>719855961
>why did people praise this?
Hollow Knight took like 60 hours to get to the levels of bullshit Silksong starts at and most of it was completely optional. Then Pantheon happened and things just kept getting even worse. So now that's the new baseline. HK also had some insanely good levels, City of Tears is still goated, but honestly 8 hours in and Silksong has yet to wow me even half as much as HK did.

God I cant wait until people start getting to the hardest platforming section and find out that every time you fail there is a solid 2 minute run from the rest point.

>>719856052
>actual rewards and power gain for progression and boss kills
This one tweaks the fuck out of me. You kill an entire massive robot and your reward is fucking nothing. Not even some beads.

How are you fags having issues with beads? Are you not exploring? Are you not breaking nodes? Im swimming in beads rn, havent felt the need to grind at all

>>719856057
The fucking ants were harder than “damn brat needs rape correction” ass bug, literally just pogo back and forth, that fight against the stick bug was so fucking annoying, thank fuck for the kunai tool

>>719856052
This. Let's just also add a mechanic where if you lose to a boss too many times you can skip it

FUCK BIRDS

THIS POST WAS MADE BY THE BUG GANG

>>719856162
>2 minute run from the rest point.
It's crazy Fromsoft themselves solved this in the time it took them to release Silksong and they just didn't copy Stakes.

>diagostab an enemy
>attack ends half a millimeter before connecting
>you fall in front of the enemy and take damage

>>719855032
>constantly out of range until you decide to jump then it comes in and you take contact damage

Fuck this dogshit boss and the entire ass cancer area you have to go through to even reach it.

>>719856169
I felt poor until Greymoor and now I have a comical amount. Spent like 300 of them on shard pouches because that feels like a more important resource to have at this point.

>>719838591 (OP)
In Hornet's words:
>git gud

I'm already exploiting enemy mechanics for slash jumping to unexplored places.
I've never done this shit in games like this before. Normally this is a speedrun tactic in a game, in this one it's a legitimate tactic they teach you. Insane.

It's like a giant path of pain at times.

Anybody else feeling the lack of charms?
Even though I always used the same ones they were still cool things to collect and play with, and it was occasionally fun to be up against a tough boss and decide to try and pull out the meme strats

>>719854348
Maybe their greatest troll yet

what the fuck the r3 parry button does?

>>719856261
eck
fuckin
zactly
thats where all the damage im takin is comin from.

>>719856323
Garara voice line on command

>>719856223
use a better crest

>>719856323
What? R3 does something? I didn't test it

>>719855459
Yeah but I didn't like HK's.
For some reason, Silksong's is addictive as fuck for me.

Where are you guys in the game right now?
I beat stick bug and I’m heading to the evil ass sand area with the worms on the ground and the steel soul jynn look alikes

>>719841227
>nowdays
back when this board wasn't 99% twitter transplants OP would have been called a casual faggot a dozen times over within minutes, and you would too

cry about the baby game more why don't you

Stuck in the area with wind currents and bugs don't drop materials for the floating cloak...

>>719856380
A shame that Hunter is so ass. Reaper is slower swing, but has a way better downward attack and dash. I'm probably going to do a Hunter playthrough eventually to try to get good with it though.

>>719856387
maybe it block projectiles but melee enemies just hit anyway from it, didnt test much

>>719855495
Circled? Wtf. I'm sure i walked through there 3 times already. Maybe i was just sleepy. Thanks anon, will search more after work.

>>719839835
>>719852216
Lmao get fucked. it took a few tries but it's not that bad. I just beat it and it was the best fight in the game so far. Good lord I share a board with serious shitters.

>>719856429
You gotta attack the spikes not the enemy, like when the spikes hit a wall or the grou d just hit them

>>719855973
>finally kill flying enemy
>their beads fall into pit or lava
Many such cases

>>719855929
Why did I have less trouble here with a diagonal slash than I did in hollow knight with a normal slash?
Something ain't right with HK's down slash. It's dicky as hell.
Silk's is far better and it's fucking diagonal (at the start).

>>719856415
Stuck on Widow's second phase
Will deal with it tomorrow

>>719856415
I'm done for the day after i found out that Widow has a second phase

Fuck this faggot ass Prison area

>>719856312
It is a glorified DLC, after all.

>>719856052
We don’t need more benches and Im gonna be the fag to say bead bouncing is soulful but yes to the rest

>>719856474
Fucking hell. Thanks anon!

>>719856479
use the upgrade that collects beads

The theif guy never appear for me after freeing him. A friend has him standing in the same room. I didnt miss anything important with him did i, this game isnt going to do the gay obscure timed missable quests like ds and elden ring right?

>>719856052
>I'm shit, therefore it's dogshit

Blasted Steps or Sinners Path? Which one is the correct way to continue the story
I of course want to go the wrong way. But both seem like they'd lead me to the citadel.

I struggled more with Moorwing than Widow desu

>>719856479
>Geo falls into pit or spikes in HK
>Can still collect it if careful or if you have gathering swarm

>Beads fall into lava or spikes in SS
>Insta destroyed
Fucking shameful it is

>>719856514
Nah, totk is a glorified DLC, this is nothing like it

>>719856415
I found blight town and got kidnapped

>>719856537
The game is easy, all this shit is just boring ass padding.

>>719856502
You're not supposed to fight anything until you get back your equipment. RUN. You are zero suit samus, your pathetic kicks are just to recover string and knock the enemies away,

>>719856498
>>719856495
Widowmind

>>719856415
I just got into Act 2 and found the Slab. I feel like I need to go back and pick up some upgrades that I missed, only just got mask upgrade.

>>719856415
Finished act 1, stuck in some garbage sewer with no rosaries. Outside of the fucking dogs in Sinner's Road and the entirety of Blasted Steps I've been having a good time.

>already 94/100 on the bugs of pharloom hunter journal quest
huh....

>>719856323
It does damage, I feel like it’s a heavy attack aoe but it never feels practical to use

am i supposed to do the clocktower thing or the caw caw green bird shit?

Infinite tools currency mod when?

>>719856415
I just beat Lace after trying and keep failing. I think I'm getting too old for this...
I also lost like 300 rosaries after going to the Hunter's March.

One thing I like about Silksong more than HK is the dash, it feels so smooth and it's very satisfying running so fast between screens. Much better than spamming the dash button on HK.

>>719856415
Spent 20 minutes trying to jump to the top in greymoor’s right side so I just went left and found a comfy inn

>>719855295
If you fight him in the smaller tunnel he can't jump, only burrow. You can poke and run as he surfaces.

>>719856660
Dude Lace was just pogoing, you’re going to love the stick bug up ahead

>>719856514
It's a different game to me 2bh. HK was far less kaizo and wasn't nearly as fast.
This game feels more like Metroid Dread after Samus finally get's her speed boosts.
But it's like that from the start and it just gets more and more intense and ridiculous with mechanics.

So many hidden movesets, it's insane. Never seen a 2D game with this many intended hidden mechanics.
Things like backflips off of enemies. It never tells you how to do them, but they're there.

Where is the best place to farm? Just beat the four armed robot btw. I need the Forge duds tools

>>719856662
I like the sprint but I had the drop after you airdash

>>719856415
>explore all the way through sinner's road
>no boss found
>explore the fuck out of blightwater
>no boss found, no map found
>now i'm at the mist and i have absolutely no fucking idea where i am or what i'm supposed to be doing
i never got this lost in hollow knight, what the fuck
also these areas are super giga monkey nigger aids to actually traverse, full of ranged enemies that run away from you and shoot targeted projectiles and then just disappear when you get close so you can't actually kill them

>>719838591 (OP)
Movement is much smoother than HK, but the combat feels so much worse.

Pretty much everything dealing 2 damage while their HP is bloated as fuck is NOT fun.

I just fought 4th Chorus and while it was easy as shit pattern-wise, I was wailing on that fucker for several minutes which makes me question if I missed some damage upgrade along the way or if Team Cherry just went full retard with the game balance.

>>719856635
i see guess its good to use when boss is stunned and you have full health

>>719856415
Bell area for now, but I explored so many nooks and crannies of the bottom area.

>>719838591 (OP)
>>719838685
It's not that bad. The game is just autistically obsessed with "taking turns". So just wait your turn to poke while they alternate between their three different attacks.

lets make birds take 4 hits to kill
fuckin bravo

>>719856579
>and I'm a sociopathic liar

>>719838591 (OP)
>farming rosaries
>not glimg to camp to have them chained together
You only have yourself to blame, also you don't even need to hoard that much currency at that point in the game.

>>719856689
I haven't gotten used to the vertical pogoing yet, that's the problem. It's also why I died at Hunter's March, the monsters were easy to kill, jumping between plants wasn't for me.

>>719856727
There's a mechanic in Fourth Chorus where you drop the ceiling to kill him.

>>719856693
>Things like backflips off of enemies
you need to be retarded to not notice these lmao
they literally happen automatically

More like SilkSnore, this shit is so fucking boring.

>>719856732
It honestly feels built for like an enchantment or super move you get later
Idk I haven’t found any new attacks outside the dart tool

We have spent 3 years perfecting our spike placement to destroy 90% of your beads.

>>719838591 (OP)
I went to the bird gauntlet just after getting the reaper seal, foolishly thinking it would be better than your base seal. The upward reaper attack has half of the coverage of your upward base attack, making it a pain in the ass to land an attack on flying enemies (think half a parabola vs full parabola ). As soon as I switched back to the base seal I cleared it. There are a lot of quirks about this game making it less enjoyable than HK:

Having to use a diagonal dive attack to bounce off of objects is a fucking hassle whether vertially or horizontally. I can do it, but I hate it.

I never thought I would have to go rosary farming (and hunting the map chick before I lose all of my cash), and the rosary chain scam is dickish (spending 80 rosaries so I have 60 I don't drop on death is basically a 25% annoyance
tax).

When I was fighting Forth Chorus, I was really starting to wonder when the fight would end.

>>719855295
I beat him without dash. Just use the area where the ceiling transitions from low to high, and have him dig between the two areas so he can't jump and just do a single hit and run.

>>719856090
I got the assist when I got to that fight. Maybe it's dependent on how much money you spend on her.

>>719856495
Just managed to beat her. The flea juice + poison trinket was clutch.

>>719856807
>they literally happen automatically
Not necessarily.
You need to be dashing and move the directionals a specific way.

arent the backgrounds a bit TOO blurry?

>>719856807
Backflips off of enemies?

why do most bosses and now regular, non-large enemies just do two shells worth of damage now and this early on

>>719856727
Stop trying to needle only. Use Tools, use silk for abilities. Silk Storm does as much as 5 needle hits in a third of the time. Hornet kills so fast if you aren't just trying to sit and spank. The Tri pin can shotgun and each does half of a needle hit. Properly positioned you can spam them into a boss and they melt.

>>719856804
>Oh there's drafts on either side of the area now. Oh well I doubt they're important.

>>719856221
>Fromsoft themselves solved this
you are a retard

>>719856869
Because HK was too easy.
9 Sols kinda proved that.
But I think Silk's got it beat now because of the variety of moves on offer.

Act 3: hallownest
Kinooooo
Jk i'm still on act 1

>>719846853
i lost 300 beads to this shit

>>719855295
I was having trouble with the same angry dude. If he jumps don't run away, run towards it and attack from behind, all the other shit he does you can just walk out of range at normal speed.

I've noticed so many gen a's getting filtered because they're used to being babyed by modern gaming. "Enemies hurt you just from touching them!", "the runbacks are too long!", "the bosses are too hard!" Silksong is 7 years in the making, and carries over these old school philsophies. The downside of a game taking forever to come out is missing the changes in consumer standards during that time

>>719856862
>>719856868
literally all you do is downwards attack LMAO
you can combo it with dash
how is that complicated?

Is there a reason why falling in these should deal 2 masks of damage other than to fuck with you? This area is already aids, was there a need to do this?

>>719855295
I came to the same conclusion as this Anon >>719856674

Lure him into the tunnel, whack him when he emerges from his burrow, dash away to dodge his attack (if he doesn't burrow again), run away to force a burrow, rinse, reapeat.

The tunnel being there probably makes this an intentional strategy, but dear God, it's a fucking retarded design.

>>719856869
You have a problem with that, anon? Haven't you learned to press A?

>>719856869
Because Team Cherry thought HK was too easy and most people did too, so they wanted to make a harder game. They succeeded.

>>719856869
>>719856929
One of my biggest complaints in HK is that the world wasn't threatening and barely any enemies did 2 health of damage.

I am actually so fucking happy Silksong has actual shit that can just outright push your shit in.

>>719856964
It's a hint from Team Cherry, telling you not to fall in.

>>719856415
The area after you get the floating robe upgrade and go to the surface. I just finished the reaper seal gauntlet and the bird gauntlet.

>>719856964
Get used to it
All traps in the rest of the game do two masks

>banshee enemies that dash around at mach 10 speeds doing a grab attack with a MASSIVE hitbox and drain four of you fucking silk bars when they hit you
>and of course they also do 2 damage because fuck you nigger you're not allowed to enjoy the game

>>719856975
its not harder though
unless it is supposed to get harder after 4th chorus
honestly the game is still piss easy
harder than HK sure but thats moot, silksong itself isnt hard

>>719840632
Game released today. Instead of playing it and discovering it for yourself, you are watching YouTube shitters play it.
Is this a poor person thing or is your brain too rotted to form your own opinions?

>>719838591 (OP)
I don’t even know how you people have gotten so far in this game. I got 4 hrs in and haven’t run into any bosses that are particularly hard but I also havent spent the entire fucking day playing. If the game is so hard then why put 10+ hrs in it day one? With HK, I was always very patient with how I approached bosses and didn’t beat my head against a wall because I would take frequent breaks.

>sequel to popular game
>it's more of the first game
>it's slightly more difficult than the first game
>basically a perfect follow-up
>fags on /v/ somehow still complain
I'm not saying it's a 10/10 game but what else did you guys expect lmao

>>719857028
It becomes hard after that yeah, starting in grey moor

>tfw did the entire downslash gauntlet to get the boomerang gadget way early
I don't know why I was masochistic enough to do Ant Hell when I clearly was undergeared for it, but sure

>lets give you the move that helps you kill the birds after you do the hard challenge room
>lets give you the dash later that would help with this boss actually

weird

>>719838591 (OP)
>/v/ openly admitting to getting filtered instead of playing tough and pretending like it's easy
Silksong is a magical game.

>>719857028
Bro Silksong is hard
Ive played most metroidvanias

And the things Silksong throws at you Act 1 already makes it harder tbat almost all of the other mainstream ones
Like only Rabi Ribi on a harder difficulty and probably Aeterna Noctis platforming-wise is harder
La Mulana too but mostly because puzzles

>>719856415
Hunter's March

>>719856897
> Silk Storm
> Tri pin

I had neither of these, just the basic dagger and my Nail.

>>719857072
At least they aren't bitching and pretending it's the game's fault for being too hard

What’s the best place to grind rosaries? Someone mentioned Mosshead I think, but I couldn’t find what they were talking about. It’s a bit aggravating to not be able to unlock benches and bellstops.

>>719855640
you do a special attack while sprinting

>>719857109
the issue is metroidvanias as a genre is piss easy especially for boss fights
sure silksong tried to add more dark souls shit but doesnt change that it isnt per se hard
hell if shit was doing 1 mask damage people would brute force

Hunter's March is literally the Catacombs of this game.

And people keep fucking running into it.

>>719856964
Because fuck you, that's why.

when do i get the dash
i just got to hunters march

>>719857138
Then explore more. Silk storm is after fourth Chorus. But i'm just saying in general, you'll want to be using these tools when you can, don't try to spare their use, it only hurts you. I use them even on basic enemies. You should have at least gotten the Shard Pin though, from Forge Daughter. That thing is really nice.

>>719838591 (OP)
git gud retard, its literally that simple. the fact shit does 2 masks of damage does not matter, fucking helen 'nigger hater' keller could figure out the attack patterns of these dudes.

BUY THE RED TRAP FROM FORGE DAUGHTER

EQUIP THE RED TRAP

USE THE RAD TRAP

THERE I JUST MADE ACT 1 PISSEASY FOR EVERYONE

>>719857156
where you first find the ring lady merchant person, you go in a counter clockwise lap around mosshead area back to the bench before her

>>719856551
I got fucked and did the feast before moorwing so I never got to fight it and now I'm pissed. I hope it appears after the fuckers move again

>>719857215
It was worth it to battle with cartographer wife (literally just met her today) but yeah you can’t do much without an upgrade.

>>719856804
just pogo his head forever like god intended.

>>719857318
how the fuck did "fleas" come out as feast.

>>719857156
In the beginning where you first meet the map chick, there is a circular loop to your left (with a bench near to the chick) that nets you 50 beads every time you complete it.

what the fuck is the mist
why is it completely fucking random
am i even making progress or am i missing a key upgrade
i must've gone through like 30 or 40 rooms before i just gave it up and killed myself

>>719857140
If they did, I would easily call bullshit. This game is difficult, but you never feel like it's unfair. You can always tell why you fucked up, and how you can improve. The only time it felt unfair for me so far was those bullshit floor/ceiling traps in Hunter's March and the location before that that are impossible to see and shave two masks off you, that was pure trial-and-error NES Mega Man bullshit.

>>719857301
>>719857359
I don’t remember where we first met her, that was hours ago

>>719856292
so many people complaining about this guy and i just don't understand, i literally one shotted that whole section, i'm not gonna say it was easy but it's not particularly hard either

>>719856428
Yeah even if we all sucked dog dick at a game back then we knew better than to ever publicly blame the game for it.

>>719857391
You can quit to titlescreen and spawn at a bench for free without dying.

>>719857428
That's how I felt about people bitching about bell beast.

>>719857412
where you first meet the green spitting retards

>>719857464
People complained about Bell Beast? Of all enemies/bosses?

The answer to everything is to git gud, that's all there is to it. There's occasional bullshit, but you conquer all situations by using your brain and coordinating the situations accordingly

>>719857453
eh
it puts your cocoon at the start anyway so it only took like 10 seconds to get my cash back

>>719857273
I bought the lava does less damage tool. No more materials.

>>719857505
in the first few threads, yeah. i don't trust this place after that.

>>719857506
Tell much how much skill is required in a one minute runback with zero risk to get back to a boss? Did it really matter or is it there just to make the experience unpleasant?

Is it true shakra helps you in hunters March? I've talked to her in every spot and she didn't help me on any fight there

>WAAH WAAH 2 MASKS OF DAMAGE
You guys are crazy. One of Hollow Knight's BIGGEST issues was how fast you scaled past a majority of the world.

Literally early to mid game the only bosses that could really pose a real threat to you were the Watcher Knights. Maybe the Dream Bosses.
I'm.not trying to gloat here. HK was literally that easy early on.

>>719857391
I don't know yet, but I'm 99% sure the Mist is a lost woods loop type map

>>719857584
Dont die to the boss?

oh yeah, this boss is fucking annoying.

>>719857506
nah its tedious nonsense. i dont feel good beating shit. its just like sekiro all over again

>>719857028
what compels you to post this? youve barely played the game. youve seen like 3 bosses. you have gotten 1 upgrade
>"yeah, ive played the game for 1 hour, guess i know everything about the game. i will unanimously declare it NOT HARD"
niggers like you ruin the day 1 discussion of any game. shut the fuck up until youve actually played the fucking game

>>719857584
This game so far has only 1 dogshit runback and it's not Hunter's March. Every single other runback takes 10-20 seconds

>>719857627
damn so it was like every metroidvania where it was about exploring and gettin stronger?
fuck...

>add different moves sets with the crests
>theyre all worse than base hunter
Reaper seems kind of ok but why would i want slow heavy attack that DOESNT actually do more damage. Im just gimping my dps

>>719857028
>its not harder though
>harder than HK for sure
You're a special kind of moron aren't you?

>>719857657
>it's tedious waaaah waaaah
No one cares faggot. Now get out and let people who care talk about the game. You've shat up enough threads for one day

>>719857686
There's "getting stronger" and then there's "obviating all risk"

>>719857668
I'm talking in general. Every runback that isn't there to murder you is pointless.

>>719857732
theres no fun if things become tedious, you know that right?
like are we past tryin to have fun and just tryin to feel good about beating a janky ass videogame? is there like nothing else going on with your life that you really need the game to be this way?

>>719857695
why do crests change the fucking pogo of all things. trying to bounce off things in beast is so awful I don't even want to try it

>>719857818
I said no one cares faggot. Get lost.

why would you ever use nimble crest?

I died to the trap bench in Hunter's March and i couldn't stop laughing, they got my ass real good.
Also, toughest boss so far was the double Moss Mother in Atla , that shit took me like 7 tries

>>719857853
>no one cares
theres like 20 other anons here who think the game has issues. quit being a blind fanboy

>>719857871
Why would you ever use any of the creasts. Theyre all defult unsable except the base one thanks this bullshit >>719857839

finally scraped together enough beads for a simple key, where should I use it? I've run into several doors that seem like they require one.

>>719857957
>20 other anons
Yeah you, you and you. Now seriously, piss off and let people have fun discussing a new game. What do you gain from spamming threads with the same trite copy paste posts? Nevermind, don't answer. This is the last time I'm responding to you anyways.

>>719855960
The Knight was a void and God being just like the Hollow Knight was and was just as capable of fucking up the entire line of bosses. Even Hornet couldn't do that.

>player character has humongous hitbox
>the contact damage still there for some reason
legit what the fuck were they thinking? I literally have to measure my fucking jump when hitting flying enemies to avoid contact damage

>>719858024
sorry your $20 totally not dlc sequel is just as shit as the base game.
7 years and they didn't playtest it enough i guess

>>719856869
You heal for 3 instead of one and can do it mid air.

>>719857839
well, beast gives you more attack speed, and your bind replaces healing with more damage and lifesteal, i think they gave it a shitty pogo to balance it out

where the fuck do you get spine cores??
im in the caves? i think
there are very rare flying dudes but they drop nothing
wtf is this

>>719858024
the only discussion youre going to get is the problems with the game anon

>>719858167
right side those flying things shoot spikes collect them

>>719858167
I think those were the spike thingys that get shot out, hitting them drops the items

>finally reached Act 2

KINO

>>719858167
i got stuck there as well, you have to hit the spikes the flying dudes shoot, and then collect them

>>719857695
More reach, generous pogo hitbox and the slow swing speed doesn't matter as much with jumping attacks. I've only found wanderer and reaper so far but I find them both situationally useful.

>>719838591 (OP)
I wouldn't say it's hard, but everything feels tedious now. It's like they completely shifted design philosophy after the Grimm DLC. Also feels like they did not enjoy all of the speedkills people were doing, so now bosses have more HP and let you attack them less often.
I'm also starting to understand the pogo complaints. The angle just feels wrong, the hitbox on the dive is way too small and I've just zoomed right over flowers I should be hitting. Also the distance you travel with it feels too short.

>>719857584
You're a big boy, you can handle a corpse run. Games shouldn't have checkpoints just before each boss so that you just run at the boss mindlessly 24/7

HOLY FUCK THE DIAGONAL POGO FINALLY CLICKED
I COULD CHAIN SHIT BETWEEN DIFFERENT ENEMIES

>>719856415
Beat the Fourth Chorus boss in one go, gonna hit the hay and do more tomorrow. Don't know why my roughest boss so far has been the fast travel bug, but other than that, I've been really enjoying the game. I need to go back and see what I've missed, I think my only current active side quest is the fleas.

>>719858273
>>719858239
>>719858264
holy shit why the fuck do i need to attack the projectiles they shoot that are stuck on the ground instead of auto pick up
stupid retard team cherry

Is it worth it doing the sidequests?

>>719858372
ant nest really shows how weird the angle is i got hit by spikes by missing obvious jump multiple times

What the fuck
I just sat on the bench at Bone Bottom and a second Skull Tyrant attacked the village, murdered the guy by the fireplace and now they're all holding a funeral

whats the 3 bell sign mean anyway?

>>719858495
lmao what

>>719858483
Some more than others.

>>719858450
Because she told you to get the spines, you dip.
Spines as in spikes, not spines as in vertebrae.

Hunter's March feels like I'm fighting normal enemy versions of Lost Kin. Somehow the enemies predict where I'll be before I even decide I want to be there.

>>719858523
The bench got snapped in half too, now some guy is repairing it with a hammer

>go into lost march
>keep attacking horizontally instead of diving
>keep dying
I'm fighting the level more than I am the enemies

silksong wont win goty because blue hair woke journos cant beat it

>>719858608
Wait was it because I didn't buy the bridge
Was the name fucking literal

>omega ass cancer-aids runback
>retarded fight where he just walks towards you until you're pinned against a wall and then does the move that hits almost the entire screen so it's literally unavoidable
>2 damage
this is fucking stupid dude
where is the part where the game is fun
why does it take multiple minutes of platforming to get back to fight this guy again only to die before i even get to the second phase he obviously has

>>719858676
Unironically though

It is actually insane how Silksong has practically ZERO QoL lmao
In fact, TC literally designed it not only to be harder but to fuck with the player more

>>719858676
I'm starting to get why they didn't want game journos to get their hands on it. Game is a fair bit harder than non-Godhome HK.

>>719858731
I hope to fucking god they patch this
This fight would be fine if not for those FUCKING CEILING CORNERS

so does it feel worth the development time?

>>719838591 (OP)
What is with the addslop splinter sister. Its fucking awful! What is this, Sekiro?

>>719858851
really polished game feels like time was spent well

>>719838591 (OP)
Uhhh, anyway to get a second simple key before i finish the area with all the worms in the sand and sandstorms?
I unlocked the door in Deep Docks and was underwhelmed.
Anything I should double check, I feel like I'm close to act 2

>>719858851
100%.

>>719858734
> bring Steam down by not allowing preload
> increase the ways to fuck with the players
> still going earn tens of millions each easily

Aussies are just built differently.

>>719858890
You can get a second key in Sinner's Road but I think you're maybe not supposed to get in there before some kind of double jump? You can get in with some head bounce off the maggots to wall jumps

400 rosaries gone
Yeah I think Im done

Holy shit I actually beat him

>>719858974
Also, I'm pretty sure you're intended to use the simple key there to get a loser out of a cage

>>719859005
Before you got the dash?

>>719859005
if you bait him to tunnel on left he cant jump but good job beating him normally

>>719838591 (OP)
How are all of you this fast bruh, it's not even the end of the week it released in, are you going to beat it in 3 days

>Bell Beast
>Hunter's March
>Moorfly
>Widows

WHO IS THE REAL ACT 1 FILTER /v/?

>>719846853
Ok why would they do this

>>719859005
I didn't realize the game sort of hints you need the dash and fought him a few times before taking him down. Somehow the bouncing on the flowers in the next section is what really fucked me up and was the first time I lost beads.

>>719858731
>get to the second phase
>becomes a "mom said it's my turn to attack" boss where he spams moves that cover the whole screen and prevent you from getting close to him and there are barely any windows to attack
this might actually be the single worst fight in either game

>>719838591 (OP)
lol this room just made me put the game down for a bit, made me tilted as fuck

Where do you get the dash, I need a hint I feel like I've gone everywhere accessible to me

the flying bird like shit are OP 10 trillion hits to kill them
game is HP bloated after 4th chorus
YOU RETARDS FIX THE GAME

Isn't the biggest complaint about the original HK that it's too easy? You people just can't agree on shit.

>>719859193
lava bell area

>>719839835
That sounds like the first game to me.

>>719858734
>practically ZERO QoL lmao
The buzzwords you retards use to justify your lack of skills never ceases to amaze me

I've been capped on these for hours now, is this normal or I'm missing something?

>>719859228
Use. Your. Tools.

>>719859239
As in lower Marrow?

am I supposed to go up there? I keep missing the second pogo bounce

>>719859271

Hes not wrong silksong's map system is still the same as hk and it has zero difficulty options or ways to mame the game easier when almost every other game in the genre these past few years have one

>>719838591 (OP)
I like the difficulty. Have the base game be hard but then don't include dog shit like the Pantheons again cause lets be real they fucking suck.

>>719859312
Map system and zero difficulty modifiers are perfectly fine game design

>>719859283
Read the post just below yours.

>>719859283
If you use tools (and you should since they do more damage than you think), going to a bench will have Hornet use them up to make her tools.

>Wanderer Crest
Holy soul…

Does anyone else like Hornet like just as a character?

I like the way she's written and how overall humble she is in the dialogue.
A lesser studio would have gone full muh girlboss.

>>719855295
use kunai
stay close to him when he emerges
jump only if he pulls his sword back - but you can also just attack to parry it
pogo if you jump above his attack
run forward under him if he jumps, short hop and attack upward
you can do so much more DPS than him it isn't funny

>>719859192
The rest of the game is kicking my ass, way too hard. The birds are the one thing I got. I was down to one health but beat it first try. Than didnt die in this section. Its weird as the enemies after raped mr.

>>719859128
last judge. the casuals aren't there yet but it's definitely that one.

Kinda wish the crafting shards weren't a thing and all enemies just dropped money.

>>719855415
How do you open the gate by the bench to take that upper path?

>>719859128
Last Judge. I've been stuck here for two hours.

>mfw trying to get used to the dive after being used to the HK pogo
I always feel like I over or undershoot it. Decided not to do that one area that requires multiple jumps using it because I'm just that bad.

HERE ARE FREE PRO TIPS FOR NEW PLAYERS IN ACT 1

>do NOT go into hunters march immediately
>use your silk spear and red tools consistently
>USE THE ROSARY STRINGS AND SAVE UP ROSARIES
>let your dash pogo linger instead of spamming it
>BUY the red trap from forge daughter
>immediately go to bellhart first and get the needle upgrade once you can
Hope you have fun brehs. Really the big tip here is to not be afraid to just use the tools.

Hornet is a boy btw.

>>719859128
Buying the game > Splinter Sister > hunters march > Bell beast > windows > Moorfly

>>719859370
It would be soul if the range wasn't a severe problem with how this game is calibrated.

Mooreing never spawned for me in greymoor do i have to activate him or something where is it? Is it because i took the flea caravan?

>>719859506
>do NOT go into hunters march immediately
I'M NO BITCH. Getting through Hunter's March was difficult though

>>719859546
I dont know if this is true but I think you can fight moorwing again eventually when the caravan leaves

>>719839835
lol i beat her first time.
just git gud.

>>719859369
I don't have any tools. I'm guessing you gotta find a crafter npc to make them or something?

>>719859506
>>BUY the red trap from forge daughter

How the fuck do I use these well

>>719859492
You get an upgrade later that makes you summersault your sword in the air, makes it infinitely easier.

>>719859506
>BUY the red trap from forge daughter
I still don’t know who this is (I think), could I have missed her?

Wormways or Deep Docks for my key?

>>719859128
Why would Bell Beast be a filter boss?
Hunters March isn't too terrible, just frustrating.
Moorfly can easily be skipped
Widow should have less HP, but it isn't a bad fight outside of that. It was actually one of the only boss fights I've enjoyed so far, on par with double Moss Mother.

>>719859005
I beat him without realizing there was a dash. Git gud.

>>719859372
She comes off as to the point and focused, while also being polite to those who deserve it. The dudes that are there aren't ones she puts down to talk about their privilege, she's just a good level headed character, and that's all she needs to be.

>>719838591 (OP)
Died to the miniboss at Hunter's March like 12 times before i tried parrying his tracking jump he does. How are normalfags supposed to figure this out when they don't even tell you you can parry shit and you barely use it in the first game?

>>719859629
Widow is the first boss that mandates tool use. If you use tools her health just fucking evaporates.

>>719859546
I guess entering the area from the reverse side causes the boss to despawn permanently(?)

>>719859461
someway to get to dash. i dont really remember what you had to do
maybe i jump pogo'd an enemy to a ledge. im not sure

uhhh, im at the reaper area
did i miss tools or whatever the fuck u guys are on about
i dont have the vbucks for buying shit from the forge lesbians

>>719859662
THAT WOULD BE GREAT, TOO BAD I ONLY GET 10 USES

Tools are your charms in this game
Except theyre active so fucking use them your mouthbreathers

You are LITERALLY playing hollow knight with zero charns if youre playing silksong without using the tools the red ones especially

>>719859506
>belhart
i dunno i talked to some old guy ina clocktower and he disappeared now i took a caravan thats southwest of there and i can only go left.
when the fuck is that.

>>719859629
Bell beast has been my hardest boss until Splinter Sister. I swear I got it down to 1 hit left 4 times but just couldn't close.

>too hard!!
these trannoids are not even vs Last Judge lmao
but yeah people will cry

>>719859606
I'll look out for that, not sure how far away that'll be from Far Fields but I appreciate there's something.

>>719859697
map if anyone cares, has suggestion somewhere important to back track if i miss fun shit

>>719859732
When you go to left

>>719859732
Left of the caravan...

>>719859642
NTA but same

>>719859310
get float and you don't need to pogo at all

I get it now.

Silksong is filtering everyone who played HK by just swinging the nail and nothing else. Act 1 expects you to use everything you have.

I’m gonna assume this will just be an Elden Ring situation where people will complain en masse for a while and then slowly adapt and accept it by being good but then you’ll get threads like this every so often and then replies will be two or three guys posting from their 20 gigabyte webm folder of them beating every enemy in the game in 5 different ways.

>>719859757
Looks like you've missed a bunch

>>719859672
Well thats fucking lame. Does it drop anything

AM i supposed to go to far lands or hunters march first.

In far lands there are those winds that push you up but i cant do shit there for now, it seems like i got lost

>>719859072
Yes!

>>719859814
Honestly surprised he didn't jump more considering how often you were in the air. But then again I feel like they programmed him to use the jump less often than other attacks.

artificial difficulty
the game is just hard for the sake of being hard
it's just elden ring again

>>719859856
At least in ER you can just go wherever

SS is still a metroidvania

>>719859901
Far lands, there's an npc down there that makes you something to use the air vents. Hunter's March is optional.

I had a feeling they might balance around the autists that 112%ed the previous game.

Casuals like me who merely played through the game once without even 100% it are not the target audience of Silksong

>>719859853
>Silksong is filtering everyone who played HK by just swinging the nail and nothing else
Using all nail range charms and quick slash was fun tho

>>719859901
You unlock the item for the wind geysers in the Far lands - bottom right theres a quest giver in a house.
Hunters is optional content

>>719859712
You do realize that you can unlock crest slots and bring TWO tools in, yes?

>>719859935
>SS is still a Metroidvania
So you can go like 3 other places for a bit

>>719859856
I just think they need to adjust the hit detection on the pogo dive to be bigger.

this nigga shaved off good 40 minutes of my life for basically nothing

>>719859976
You do realize those are limited resources - I have long since spent all of the ones I have unlocking passive slots

I missed at what point moves changed. Like down diagonal rush changed for hk1 downward slash

This game is literally and I mean literally Bloodborne to Dark Sous, a slower game morphed into a gun blazing one and I fucking love it, Hornet with movement speed upgrades is so fucking cool.

>>719860076
Beast form is so unbelievable dogshit i have no idea what they were thinking

>>719859996
Its also a soulslike in that you backtrack and your favorite NPC gets murdered.

Was there even a point in going to Hunter’s March early? I know there’s that guy who sells stuff, but I didn’t have any money on me then. I don’t know if I forgot something or missed something.

>>719859536
>>719859736
>spinter sister
>hard
Just use your silk spear when the adds spawn so you 1hko them and jump her attacks, she is very basic.

>>719841227
they made the game with the autismos in mind who ground out the pantheon dlc.

>>719860184
Boomerang is nice for some large or flying enemies, the broken mask gives you a one time ( in between benches) extra hit on your final mask when equipped.
Thats about it, outside of the beast crest locked behind an ass boss fight.

>>719859932
this person didn't get the bench by the map lady lol

also funny the weaver is unlocked after the birds, where it would be the most useful

>>719860260
>>719860184
The broken mask is 100% important.

>>719860260
>Boomerang
Huh wheres that i explored the whole area

>>719854450
you are still a virgin anon

>>719859757
>>719859697
You can get both the throwing dagger and 3-projectile kunai before getting the reaper crest, anon. The kunai is in the lava dock area. I forget where, unfortunately.

>>719860157
bone bottom...why

>>719859856
I have 650 hours in ER and I'm currently playing nightreign ( killed all everdarks so far ) and even in hindsight I'd say that Malenia and Promised Consort were too much. I was simply left behind by the constant arms race and one-upping of the challenge where the joy of overcoming a boss wa replaced by just being glad it's over. Everdark Libra is the most recent example. I got his relic and will never ever fight him again lol


I really hope some indie people or so will some day pick up the mantle and make DaS3/BB tier difficult souls games for filtered casuals like me.

>>719860365
Merchant guy sells it

>>719859084
some anons no-life the game and then lpay through it multiple times, but I'm the kind of normalfag wageslave that will play it one hour a day and slowly chip through it (I also unironically find it more enjoyable this way), which is why I should really stop coming here soon

>>719860076
lol wtf where is this retard at?

>>719860076
all the flying enemies are just way too bullshit compared to ground enemies.
they dont even compensate HP bars for them either
just armored apache DRONES who have the most immaculate footsies when you try to even hit them

>>719860420
hunter's march, top right, can only get there if you can float on the hot air

>>719854840
good goy

>>719860462
you can pogo up there no need floating upgrade

>>719860409
DaS3 really was the sweet spot with the bosses. I remember people absolutely losing their minds over sister friede. Today that boss looks like a crippled and old crucible knight in comparison.

why would you not use reaper over the normal? in fact the dive kick is a lot more safer to use since it doesn't nose dive you and if you aren't perfectly accurate you eat a hit thanks to retarded body damage

imagine playin dark souls and you take damage because you run into an enemy jsut standing there

>>719860404
i'll try to just go around old areas i guess
i missed shit ton seems like

WHERE'S THE LAST PURPLE WORM

>>719860409
the only thing akin to input reading estus reading punishing in this game is the flying enemies who bob and weave in and out whenever you go in for a jump attack
its actually the most infurating thing about the combat right now

>>719860409
Yeah nothing wrong with having a preferred level of difficulty, im comfy on ER/SOTE levels but if they up the stakes any higher i might tap out too (i will still play it, just with a summon instead of solo).

It only becomes gay when you blame the game like a little bitch.

>>719856932
that'd be some great fanservice. A time-skip, post-pandemic hallownest.

>>719860076
lol

>>719860420
Hunters March. Optional boss fight, the boss itself isn't too bad - but he can spawn up to 3 ads in his smaller than normal arena, a spike dude, a mini version of the boss, and a flying guillotine guys that does 2 masks dmg.
You can easily get caught inside his hurtbox after success pogos because he receives no knockback and flys wherever he wants to.
Ads with hit you, push you into his hurtbox, so you'll take 3-4 masks dmg while stunned.
Absolutely terrible design

I wish Hornet's attack had a fair bit more knockback, I'm too used to just sitting there as the Knight and being able to push away enemies that are trying to fly right in my face.

>>719860524
Don't worry; I'm only a couple hours ahead of you. As a STRONG word of advice, the boss for Greymoor is a fucking faggot so don't go above him because contact damage will rape you. It's safer to just say below him and to the side and dodge his projectiles/charges.

>Marrow
>Hunter's March
>Deep Rocks
Man all of these zones suck.

>>719859831
OH

>>719860462
>>719860608
hunters march is that shit after the red ant thing filtering everyone?

i hate flyin enemies in this game. just seein a flyin enemy boss means i am dreading him

>>719860519
Upward attack has less range and it is factually slower than other crests.
That's it

>>719860638
Why do you hate lava.

is reapers crest simply worse than the normal kit?

>>719860668
Yea. Honestly ants aren't too bad after getting used to them. Swordsman ants always drop 25 rosary beads, so they're good money if you get the technique down.

Genuinely how the fuck are you supposed to get past widows second phase? I just imedeately die the moment it starts because of how suddenly there is like half a dozen bells flinging around and that fuck also charges at you and she catches you she also deals 2 masks worth of damage. I only have 6 masks at this point so even if I am not even hit by anything in the first phase, the amount of shit flying on the screen in the second phase just deletes my health. And there is no time to heal either in that phase due to just how fast everything moves.

>>719838591 (OP)
Right now I'm stuck at the giant flying mite thing boss in Greymoor. I'm shit at video games, but I'm persistent.

>>719860519
Its.....slow.

>>719860720
Better pogo. The extra silk generation on hitting enemies after focusing is a plus, dunno how it compares to upgraded hunter crest dmg increasing with focus tho.

Whrer the FUCK is the first nail upgrade

>>719860856
SAVE BELLHART

>>719860796
There is time to heal - wait for the vertical bells indicator lines to appear, jump mid air and heal in the sweet spot .
You can also get a heal in when widow does the scream, or jump and queue one up mid air at the start of the grapple dash widow does

>>719860796
In her second phase she kinda does the same as before just that she immediately dashes in your direction rather than going into the air first. The ball trajectories being markef by light and being slow helped me

>>719856052
this, let's also add a feature where you press a red button that says "win" and it rolls the credits

>>719860409
The problem with Libra is it would snowball and become nigh unwinnable midfight in multiplayer. The only chances you have of salvaging a run like that only open up if you’re willing to spend 10+ minutes stalling as you run around and backpedal as guardian or revenant. Even Radahn or Malenia, if they had you down to 0 flasks while they still had half their HP, you could potentially activate gamer mode and play aggressive and win, and even if you didn’t you just went back to the grace and walked back in. Libra would make your entire 30-40 minute run void because it’s just insanely hard to carry in and every members has to bring something to clear the condemned ASAP.

just got the floaty cloak
is there anyway out of this area without beating 4th chorus? I don't see any other paths

>>719855000
The trinkets are worthless against her anyways because you ain't gonna land shit on her, and the bells will just trigger the blade traps.

>>719860924
im at belhart, but shits fucked. now im in shellwood. and i died to purple flies because fuck the flying enemies in this game are AIDS

>>719861065
u have to beat it
it is braindead boss desu

>>719861065
not that i know of, what a gay and slow boss fight

>>719861085
THROW DAGGERS. They died in two hits to the daggers

>>719856491
Horny has a generous hover on most attacks and Knight falls like a brick as soon as you stop holding jump. Timing his down stabby shortsword to pogo requires tight timing, hornet requires anticipation mostly. You also don't fall straight down into the enemy and take dmg like in original game as often. I ate shit with knight for a long time before getting used to it, yet barely miss divekicks here.

>>719861065
Fourth chorus is one of the easiest bosses.

>>719861112
the three spread one?

>>719861092
yeah i feel like i can do it, just confused because in HK you could always run back and do other stuff whereas i'm stuck in this zone until i beat it
I could understand not being able to go forward until i beat a boss, but now i can't even go to the crafts smith or anything

>>719859856
elden ring's bullshit picked up late game.
early game was pretty standard.

>>719856774
yes goy, pay the tax

>>719860293
The fractured mask is trash. The magnetite dice are better.

>>719860993
It doesn't matter if the ball trajectories are marked when there are shittons of them and they bounce around, and I also have to keep track of the cunt charging at me with her needles. I just end up being hit by something, my eyes can't track fucking eveything at the same time.

>>719860407
A tragedy.

>>719861174
Yes

>>719853386
>3 mask damage hits before youve had 1hp upgrade
anon if you couldnt figure this out, this game isnt for you, youre too dumb for it.

is magma bell needed for progression?
is there any must buy from forge sisters?

>>719861484
anons say some red trap but those npcs dont have it

>>719861484
trust me when I say this
you want the magma bell
not for progression, but because fire is BAD BAD BAD

>>719861484
Magma bell isn't needed, just hop on the coal floors.
The spike trap is nice for a few boss fights because it can multi hit

>>719861484
Think of magma bell as purchansing half a spool upgrade + fire res

>>719859308
keep going east from lower marrow into the forges

>>719838591 (OP)
>the bigger enemies deal twice as much damage as the small enemies!
git gud

Close enough. Welcome back, City of Tears

>touch a fat person
>fly away 5 meters from the recoil

>>719861786
>move towards flying enemy
>he moves away
>jump up to attack him
>he keeps moving away
FUCK

The fuck do you mean plasmium you quack scientist
This blue glowy shit with butterflies is clearly lifeblood

>>719862345
FINALLY some good fucking shit.

>>719862469
>it's "incompatible" with pollip pouch and makes the extra health self-destruct into huge poison clouds