Thread 719933705

What is the probability of this game being a miss?

99% chance to hit

blame reviews or GOG

Peak CCU higher than FF16

that artstyle looks like cheap slop

>>719933705 (OP)
>take ancient game
>remove content
>sell for 70 burger dollars
Why

>>719933768
It's so fucking over.

>>719933705 (OP)
1. Full price.
2. Lame filtered sprites.
2. Is not a port of the Mobile (and PSP) versions, and lacks all of their features and new content.

It sits in some awkward mode of "why?". Just why?

Why not make a fully 3D remake of the game that would look and play a bit like Valkyrie Chronicles? Why not port the mobile version with its unique updated sprites and PSP content?

Why? Why does this exist?

>>719933705 (OP)
high. People think they like tactics games, but really they're still high off of X-Com fumes

>>719933919
An Tactics game that plays like Valkyria Chronicles would be kickass.

>>719933705 (OP)
>Those grid highlights
A WOMAN WHO NEVER PLAYED ANYTHING OUTSIDE A MOBILE GAME MADE THIS

>>719933705 (OP)
Do kids really hate pixels so much that they'll take that horrible upscaling over them
Didn't they all play Minecraft with huge fake voxels

>>719933959
>when i cant play and doing shit like bills, im watching people fail miserably in UFO defense

>>719933809
holy shit FF16 peaked low lol
I doubt FFT will beat that but damn, FF is dead

>>719934387
tbf, it wasn't a day1 release on steam
but still shit

>>719934406
neither was stellar blade

>>719933919
Yeah FFT is my favorite game but I have no interest in this. Especially with the WotL content missing? Fuck off. I can play a superior version on my fucking phone. If there were some new jobs, a hard mode, hell any significant amount of new content maybe, but modern Square fucks everything up

>>719933919
>>719933992
VC and FFT are both series that I would love to see branch off into other genres. The music is similar so I almost think that's the reason I love them so much but I think it's just the dev teams that worked on them having good taste, leading them to use similar music and stuff.

FFT's aesthetic is so fucking good, same with VC's, but both companies basically hate it for whatever reason. Feels bad man.

>>719934243
/v/ said "LOOK AT ALL THE JAGGIES SHIT GAME EW JAGGIES LOOK AT THE JAGGIES" so much it changed the industry forever.
You reap what you sow, cockass.

>>719933898
>its a story filled with hope for the hopeless about classism!
>that'll be 69.99 + tip :)
Can't make this shit up

3 posts in and already seething

100%

All video games from this era were meant to be played on a CRT

Thus, these shitty (AI) upscales of 240p PS1 assets and replacements are always inferior

>>719934763
you have a mental illness

>>719933705 (OP)
Didn't they say they rewrote the game and it has like 60% more dialog?

>>719934338
I meant the recent ones

>>719934825
he's the mentally ill one in a world full of "normal" insane asylum escapees including yourself. GTFO.

>>719933919
This. You can play a equal / better / good enough version for free so it's likely only going to sell decently at best but will be considered a "gigaflop" by SE and /v/ because both have retarded and unrealistic expectations

>>719933992
Thus why they can't. Cringe is a staple food in the SQueenix work camps and they can't go without it for long.

>>719934856
That's what they claimed and we saw a line for Mustadio that didn't exist before, but much of the changes have yet to be seen.

>>719934621
Good things sell less. Shit games sell more. It's that simple.

>>719935085
Soul vs. Soulless

>>719934763
jesus those scanlines it feels like I'm pressing my face against a CRT

I seriously hope you're sitting like 4 feet from your monitor with a filter like that

>>719934763
You realize it’s almost impossible to find one these days, right? And if you do, it’s $200+ (local pickup only)? That’s why there are so many remasters being shat out. These games look like ass otherwise, and you can blame “collectors” (scammers) for that.

>>719935603
Advanced CRT emulation technology (shaders) and Retroarch exist, and they're free

>>719935791
they also look like shit

>>719933919
>2. Lame filtered sprites.
I don't think this is a good complaint since you'll just be able to mod them, right? And they don't look that bad.

>>719936307
this is bait right

>>719936404
No

>>719933898
What content did they allegedly remove?

>>719934710
It's only $49.99USD you disingenuous clown.

>>719936480
The content from the version they did not build from.

>>719935085
Disgusting

will this game get patches and dlcs?

>>719936480
not everyone lives in the US

>>719936480
>What content did they allegedly remove?
All the extra content from WotL that Maehiro wanted to include and they told him to fuck himself.

>>719933705 (OP)
They could've made a new sprite in 3d with new art direction (not realistic style like FF7) but nope. SE being lazy scumbag as usual.

>>719936556
dlc probably not, patches yes

>>719936612
Matsuno said that he might have considered adding some of those elements, it was Maehiro who wanted to stick to the original and of course who knows if this is the truth.

>>719936556
Nah, there's actually some stuff in the FF Pixel Remasters showing they were going to do the GBA content as DLC and then just didn't. SE is a joke.

>>719935603
>implying

anon please.........

>>719936518
>WOTL content excluded because "muh PS1 original"
It's BDSPiss all over again.

>>719936571
Sorry you live in Cucknada bro

>>719936816
>>719936518
>>719936612
>>719936702
They nixed all the GBA stuff from the Pixel Remasters, why are you surprised?

>>719936518
Maybe they should have built from the version with more content.

>>719936859
thanks

>>719936925
I'm not surprised, that doesn't mean they're not retarded faggots.

>>719933919
>we will never get a 3D tactics game

>>719936925
I'm not surprised though?

>>719936928
Ah yes, content like zombie Argath and a class that brainlets think is suitable for Ramza. I'm going to make my judgment of the game based on what Matsuno and Maehiro actually do instead of shit that would have gotten onto my nerves lol.

>>719936816
didn't stop them from using the shit wotl translation

What do you hope the dialogue expansions will cover?

>>719937786
I just hope it's not cringe

Had fun with Tactics Ogre, would I like this?

>>719937913
Square hired Matsuno (guy who did TO) and told him "do that but Final Fantasy" so yes most likely. I recommend the PS1 version first (there's a mod that adds the PSP content if you want), then try the PSP one because the latter has a faux-Shakespeare script that some people hate (personally I don't mind it).

>>719934856
60% more text*
That could mean anything, especially since they included the novels

>>719937824
Same, one would hope that's what Matsuno is there for and if the game sucks we have our answer to why there's not going to be a new FFT.

>>719938086
Matsuno isn't a localizer.

>>719937179
>what Matsuno and Maehiro actually do
What are you hoping for that you think they are hiding and haven't shown?

>>719937913
probably

>>719937179
Zombie Algus should have never happened but the rest of wotl content should be there, in fact the original translation should have been an option.
Seriously fuck these spell names

>>719933768
>The dev of the remake is a big Chrono Cross fan
So it's guaranteed to fail?

>>719938171
They claimed to have refined some of the human-human conflict, the ending has some retouches and it was a collaboration with Ramza's VA so I want to see how all of that plays out.

>>719938218
And which of the rest is this? The most I can give is that there could have been multiplayer or some kind of mode for more longevity but that's about it.

>>719936480
$50 is outrageous for this type of game, though.

>>719938349
only in that it's a remaster

>>719938345
The rest is some character scenes like showing Wiegraf getting approached by the temple knights or Meliadoul interacting with the temple knights, you know, exactly the type of stuff you expect them to refine in this remake.
They also had some sidequest events for Agrias and some new battles for Agrias and Beowulf and Reis.
I get people not caring THAT much about WotL content but downplaying it and then expecting absolutely nothing in return but a few added speech bubbles if you bring a character into a specific fight is insane.

>>719938806
These statements are always a very bad sign

>>719938654
Yes, and it's probable that Matsuno was referencing some of those story scenes as something he might have considered adding in. The problem people refuse to acknowledge is that nitpicking what should and shouldn't be in that was done by different people is that the result is the same: You not only created more work for stuff that you don't approve of, people are still going to ask why you didn't put A, B or C in.

>>719938940
in /v/ land, probably.
in reality, not really.

>>719936480
>What content did they allegedly remove?
They didn't. They're actually adding content.

>>719939004
>The problem people refuse to acknowledge is that nitpicking what should and shouldn't be in that was done by different people is that the result is the same: You not only created more work for stuff that you don't approve of, people are still going to ask why you didn't put A, B or C in.
And even with WotL content in and everything being a toggle option so you can tailor suit your experience people are going to complain that this is just a remaster and not a remake.
People always complaining is besides the point. Pointing out there are things they could have easily included but they didn't without a good reason is perfectly valid. I would be perfectly happy with them telling us we didn't include the new Wiegraf scene because we will do something new with him.

>>719939301
>And even with WotL content in and everything being a toggle option so you can tailor suit your experience
The thing you have to understand is that WOTL content is contentious enough overall that it's perfectly understandable why people working on this game wouldn't want to touch it at all when there's so much they can refine in the BASE game.
I'm not claiming they'll succeed at that, but despite resenting SQEX for years now I resent the masses even more because they don't understand that every bit of content added has a give or take and ultimately my only reason for checking out this game again is wanting to see what Matsuno and Maehiro can do, not things slapped onto a different port.

>>719939596
>WOTL content is contentious enough overall
No it isn't. Or at least it wasn't until remaster shills never wanted to accept anything was wrong with the remaster. The only contentious thing was the translation, and the most popular mod is one that brings WotL content to the Ps1 version.

>>719939734
nta, but I hated the WotL stuff because it kept throwing in Delita everywhere, even where it doesn't make sense like he could teleport or something.
The mechanical additions, I don't care one way or the other, but the story changes were trash.

>>719939793
Teleport? There were 2 mock scenes/fights with Delita that most people were pretty indifferent about. It felt like an attempt to show more of Delita's adventure how Matsuno originally wanted but it was too little to matter.
The only trash addition was Algus, the rest were at most uninteresting to the people that didn't care. A lot od people liked them.

>>719938806
It'll never happen. It's too niche a genre. Nobody cares about Tactical RPGs except for a very small minority of gamers.

>>719939734
The moment I saw the Dark Knight requirements I had to ask myself 'Who the fuck asked for this shit?'. Why did Balthier have to be added? What about Luso? That and >>719939793 feels ridiculously out of place (And yes, Cloud is weird too but Matsuno apparently asked for him).

>>719940014
>how Matsuno originally wanted
Matsuno had absolutely nothing to do with the WotL version.

>>719940103
Can you not read?

>>719940085
That's you then. WotL content wasn't generally contentious.

>>719940131
Matsuno is altering this version to how he wants.
WotL is not "how he originally wanted"

>>719940172
Just the whole thing about Dark Knight and Luso alone would have made me throw everything out, the fuck do you mean this kid can learn Ultima too?

Is this the same anon who went on a /v/ rampage before because the Pixel Remasters were not like the GBA/PSP versions?

>>719940197
Matsuno is not the remaster's director.

>>719933705 (OP)
i get that they don’t want to put dark knights in the game, but why tf would they remove melee/rendezvous?
what a fucking miss.

can I get a qrd on the shakespeare ff tactics, im interested

>>719940267
Matsuno is the writer for this, and the alterations are his.
A director that is not him is overseeing it.
Matsuno is involved in IC. He was not involved in WotL.

>>719940085
>the Dark Knight requirements
Yeah those are retarded
>Why did Balthier have to be added?
Matsuno was the original director on XII, probably wanted him in. Don't have to use him though (I don't usually, too OP)
>What about Luso?
Did A2 come out around then? Square probably wanted it. I didn't mind him, just a generic that can poach as a Squire, also can just kick him
The Delita missions are quick enough it's not a huge deal. Really the WotL content isn't THAT much extra so leaving it out is just laziness.

for me it's the onion knight

>>719940331
overcorrecting the occasionally hilariously botched translation of the original.

>>719940361
The director overseeing it had a scope that never included WotL. Matsuno said that he would keep some WotL stuff in but definitely not all. What are you even trying to argue anyway? he has stated multiple times that it was his wish to make parts of Delita's story more apparent but couldn't. The people making WotL obviously tried to do a bit of that with the Delita scenes. Where are you getting confused in this?

>>719940376
Yes, and Matsuno also left the FFXII development for a good reason. The point I'm making is that I want this game to develop shit that I cared about in the original such as special characters not having any more lines after joining, instead of things Matsuno had no involvement with.

>>719938806
>If this sells well enough where we can prove business viability of the genre, we can propose remasters A1/A2 or a sequel

Not happening. This is a nice love letter to people who loved the original FF Tactics, but there is most definitely not a big enough audience for this type of game. It's why it's mainly indie titles these days for this kind of stuff.

The crossovers were cool, I liked Cloud.

>>719940564
I share the sentiment but you're a fool if you think they added anything substantial than some lines when a boss is low on health for a few characters.

>>719940559
>Matsuno said that he would keep some WotL stuff in but definitely not all.
He did not. No WotL stuff is in this, they have said as much.
The only "WotL" in this is for the English localization specifically for the Classic version, because the original localization was famously bad.
I'm merely pointing out your attempting to tie Matsuno to the WotL version, and pretend he has zero input in IC is blatantly false.

>>719940559
that matsuno is cooked.
he didn’t think to implement melee/rendezvous.
he didn’t think to have bar propositions reward usable gear.
>>719940618
lol

>>719940559
delita stuff is being expanded, but it's not based on the wotl stuff. it's directly from matsuno (and only in the enhanced version, not classic).
prior interviews mentioned not using the wotl stuff.

hey i have the game on my playstation already.
why should i buy this?

>>719940757
pic of PSX
i unfortunately lost mine over a decade ago
let me live vicariously through you

>>719940659
You're an idiot that reads what they want to read.

"If I were the director, I might have incorporated some elements from the PSP version. (Not all of them.) However, the director, Maehiro-san, stuck strongly to the original PS1 version. He is a passionate fan of the original.

"It is the director's role to determine the final specifications. The director is also the one who takes responsibility. Therefore, I support his decision."

I never claimed he had anything to do with WotL, no idea where you got this. Zero input is also something I never claimed and I don't see why you have to exaggerate.

>>719940652
I never thought they'd add something huge, but simply adding some more conversations to improve flow would help and I didn't pre-order for a good reason.

>>719940757
they added an agrias sex scene

>>719940862
So the point stands.
Matsuno had nothing to do with WotL.
He is directly involved in IC.
Thank you for conceding that.

>>719940725
If they expand Delita then WotL scenes are not a loss.

>>719940923
>So the point stands. Matsuno had nothing to do with WotL.
Who said otherwise? Can you seriously not read?

>>719940927
Apparently more clarification is in the ending involving Delita and Ovelia, and suspicions are that it's to tease a possible Tactics sequel if they're able.

But they literally teased a sequel at the end of the PSP version of Tactics Ogre as well (which obviously didn't happen past that), so it's likely just wishful thinking on their part (if that is actually what happens in the ending)

>>719940564
Yes I know, he had a nervous breakdown. But I highly doubt they're going to add anything worth value if 2 missions/characters, some short Delita fights, and 2 jobs are too much work. I might be forgetting something but besides multi-player (which I never tried), having the WotL content shouldn't be a huge ask. Hell, it shouldn't be a huge ask to add a LOT more. The story is pretty tight minus some plot holes at the end but there shouldn't be an excuse to maybe try to fix those and add a good amount of extra encounters that don't need to be part of the story. Maybe even another side quest.

I don't hate all remakes, but already cutting shit that shouldn't be hard to include is a bad sign.

>>719940892
Well I agree with you. I don't mid them not including WotL content if they have something in its stead to show. In fact I would welcome it. But from what I've seen so far it's not going to be much, certainly not a new event or cutscene. I hope I get proven wrong.

>>719940975
what is matsuyo doing to refute the charge of perpetrating a shameless cash grab?
>>719940853
it’s a ps2 slim, sorry for misleading you.
>>719940912
nobody cares. where’s the rafa/barinten sex scene?

>>719941096
>if 2 missions/characters, some short Delita fights, and 2 jobs are too much work
I don't think it's a matter of "too much work", but actively not being happy that the PSP version happened with zero input from the original creators.
It happened around the era where Square Enix was altering a lot of creators' older games taht didn't necessarilly gel well with the original games just because "more is better" much like the Disney-direct-to-VHS sequels to animated classics from the 90's. That included the GBA versions of the classic FF titles.

>>719941175
>it’s a ps2 slim, sorry for misleading you.
fair enough. still nice to still have a working ps2.

>>719941175
>shameless cash grab
I feel that we claim too many things are shameless cash grabs when they're obviously not.
Things can just be poorly thought out.
A shameless cash grab would just be them releasing this as a "collection" via emulation like the Konami Castlevania stuff.

>>719933705 (OP)
what will the reaction be when the most siginificant new feature is Clive from FF16 being the new guest character?

>>719941207
I also don't think it happened because of too much work but this is entirely headcanon. They even included the WotL script which is the most different thing about the PSP version so it's not a matter of doing things out of spite.

>>719941332
If SE tossed them a tiny budget to make an FFT remaster to re-sell then it is a shameless cashgrab.

>>719941343
They didn't use the WotL script. The Japanese version is the original Japanese script (in Japan).
Only the English translation uses the WotL script.

>>719941207
so they’re just ass-blasted that the psp version was vastly superior?
>>719941258
honestly the psp version was the best. it had rendezvous mode.
why online queue for melee/rendezvous mode being removed is crazy.
i’ll buy a physical copy of this game for $10.
>>719941332
nope. it’s definitely a shameless cash grab.
i don’t give a shit about voice acting.
i want more missions and story.

>>719941387
That's just /v/ terminology then, and not actually what they are.
Which I guess is fine, since this is /v/ and all. Still different than reality, though.

>>719941437
This is such a weird argument to make. They included and even remade the cutscenes then. Why do you insist they are doing things out of spite?

>>719941464
nope

>>719941536
>nope
exactly.
fuck this game.
herbs

>>719941506
>out of spite
I didn't claim that at all.
Not sure what you're confused over.

>>719941474
What are they according to you?

>>719941601
I gave an example of a shameless cash grab. Very minimal budget and work, just emulate, toss in a collection, and call it a day.
This obviously has some budget and a lot of work put into it, but ti's obviously not hitting the mark for a lot of people. It was poorly planned.

>>719941332
I agree with you on this sentiment, it's basically someone's pearl-clutching attempt to sound like they're saying slop without just saying slop. It's always the same exact phrase too.

>>719941586
>actively not being happy that the PSP version happened with zero input from the original creators.
This part. Are you just saying they actively didn't want to include something as optional as the new jobs then? I can see it but at the same time it's very weird.

>>719941207
That just sounds like an excuse. The script I totally understand not liking the WotL one. And even to some extent the Delita bits but they're short enough. But even if you hate the extra characters or jobs, don't take them or use them. You just get some free unique encounters. IIRC the Luso one in particular is fun because it's against a bunch of Behemoths. I guess we just have a different perspective, I don't think the WotL content takes anything away and makes the game better.

I will most likely never play this remake even though FFT is my favorite game, but hey if you're right and it turns out amazing, great I'll give it a shot. I just have absolutely no faith in modern Square and they're not helping me have any sort of hope by cutting stuff.

>>719941387
>>719941464
A shameless cash grab would be a simple port with low production values. This isn't simple, they did a lot of work. The problem is that it's not great.

I'm a pretty big youtuber and I've considered making a full game guide for the launch but there's just no hype and the video will be lucky to get 1,000 views on publish day.

>>719941684
I think it's simply a matter of it not being part of their own vision and it being someone else's vision.
If they were to make a DK class, they would likely want to create it from scratch. But it was not something they wanted to add I suppose.

>>719941674
For a lot of people this doesn't have the budget, work or ambition FFT should have. It feels like SE is doing a QoL port of an older game with fresh UI. FFT has had a following for decades and maybe people expected something more like a definitive edition with customization and added content.

hey what is going to be your ramza build you’re going to use for the non-existent online queue?
here’s mine:
>class
squire
>abilities
guts
math skill
pain split
two swords
move+3
>bravery
97
>faith
97
>equipment
blood sword (main hand)
excalibur (off hand)
thief hat
black robe
angel ring
i can just math skill holy everything including myself, and if i die, angel ring just brings me back.
>>719941712
wtf was the point of the spoiler?
herbs

>>719933705 (OP)
I'm not buying this shitty game because I already bought it before. And I hate how Square Enix keeps re-releasing this same old shitty game pretending its new. Don't get me wrong I had my fun with this game when it was indeed factory sealed new. But after what it is THREE separate re-releases FUCK YOU!! Either actually remake it for real from the ground up or go to hell. I feel the same way about Chrono Trigger another game Square Enix loves to re-release pretending its this new game.

I hope this recent FFT re-release fails for Square Enix. May Square Enix die. And I hope Dragon Quest 1 and 2 remasters also fail. Lazy fucking shit, actually remake you lazy bastards. Its why I also hate the FF Pixel Remasters. This shitty company is simply releasing the same old shit pretending its brand spanking new. It's such an insult.

Again may Square Enix die. Hope FF7 Remake Part 3 fails. When you make Konami and Capcom look better, ha!

>>719941712
Also the developers can be doing a lot of work with little budget and by SE perspective this being still a quick cash grab.

>>719941724
Do things out of love then and don't chase launches

>>719941816
And that's fair, but a budget "not being big enough" or work "not extensive enough" is pretty different than something being very low budget or low effort.
I'm personally of the opinion that this was probably budgeted appropriately (we have to be very honest with ourselves, as beloved as FFT is, it's never been a huge seller and games of this genre are not exactly big). The issue with a lot of people would be on the actual decisions they landed on.

Going to put myself on a tangent here, but I'm personally of the opinion that Square typically has a really bad habit of letting theri budget, production, and expectations balloon wildly out-of-control when Final Fantasy isn't the powerhouse it was in the past. But again, just my personal opinion.

>>719941945
I'm not some rich trust fund kid like other youtubers. I don't get that leisure.

>>719941816
None of the FF games have gotten that lately. Pixel Remasters were shortcut Unity rebuilds with none of the bonus content and arbitrary rebalancing thrown in with a lot of questionable new art and a sloppy fake HD-2D opera scene for VI, VIII Remastered was literally a repackaging of the PC port but with a bilinear filter on everything and some new character models that clash with everything else, and so forth. The best sentiment I can put forth is "Feel lucky you're actually getting new cutscenes, talking portraits and a dub," because by all means, Tactics is actually getting the BEST treatment of all the remasters and such so far.

>>719941891
>And I hate how Square Enix keeps re-releasing this same old shitty game
if only
lot of us have been wanting a non-mobile port of this since the 2000's, and it never came.
i'm just glad to finally have a native PC version of this, dont' care if it's successful or not as a whole. selfishly it's for me

>>719936480
Too expensive for a fucking PS1 game in the current year. And the sprites look worse than things like Mega Man X4 and X5. Not giving a pass to this scam. Square Enix is shit. And for fuck's sake Silksong has prettier sprites and animations while not costing so much all things considered despite being an original release.

FILTERS ARE GARBAGE PLAY WITH FULL PIXELS ON HD SCREENS. NONE OF THEM EVEN LOOK THE WAY CRTS DID IF YOU REALLY WANT IT JUST HOOK UP A CRT WITH AN ADAPTER AND DRAG THE WINDOW OVER TO IT

>>719942008
Then it's a bad business decision to bother with a guide I agree. I thought you really wanted to make one but the opportunity cost was too great. If there's no money to be had AND you don't want to then don't, it's really simple.

>>719942054
We could have gotten more. Imagine if Square Enix put up the budget to make FFT remaster that looks like the special animated sequences from the PSP edition. Now those kinds of visuals would breathe new life into Ivalice. But nah...Square Enix is cheaper than Scroodge McDuck ironic given their affiliation with Disney through Kingdom Hearts.

>>719942042
>talking portraits
That's funny, I'm actually excited for this release, and I currently actually dislike the talking portrait thing. I think they should handle it like the Tactics Ogre Reborn recent release and stick with the static portrait, just with some alternate expression portraits for scenes that demand it
Talking portrait looks weird to me

>>719942001
Well it's the results that people will see in the end. And for many this isn't something they would pay 60 dollars for.

>>719942054
>i'm just glad to finally have a native PC version of this
Why though? Both versions emulate fine. And the phone port is actually pretty good, the only two problems is it drains battery like a mother fucker and every once in a while it can be hard to select a certain tile if there's shit in front of it.

>>719942180
I think we both might've liked that, but there's an awful lot of purists (ESPECIALLY with regard to Final Fantasy) who get especially angry if you differ way too much from the original.
Hell, there are people who absolutely hate the WotL version because of its changes from the original and tacked on MP. The original still exists, they still hate it anyway.

>>719942240
>the phone port is actually pretty good
I don't like playing games on mobile, and unless it changed, you can't use a mobile controller with it. SE is fucking weird when it comes with their mobile stuff.

>>719942240
The only possible reasons for a PC port are better aspect ratio and potential for modding.

>>719936925
That is entirely different because all of that shit in the GBA versions of the mainline games is just sprite asset flips from other games anyways and it would be really fucking obvious when you release them together with said games while the Ivalice Alliance crossovers and new jobs were entirely new content.

>>719942240
i've gotten super lazy in my older years, and pretty much just exist on Steam and GOG for gaming.

>>719942054
You know they butchered the Tactics Ogre remaster right? There's a non-zero chance that they're gonna butcher this one too

>>719942240
>Why though?
The only thing stopping text from being modified if someone wants the old localization is an understanding of how anything works and seeing if it's hardcoded or not, never mind other stuff. I'm not expecting anyone to implement PSP content here, but at the very least I'm highly expecting someone to take the classic mode visuals and slap them onto the modern stuff.

>>719942319
Ah that's fair. I don't mind playing RPGs on a touch screen but I get it. Weirdly it's probably slightly better than the PSP one because they fixed the slowdown issue if you don't mind the controls. That's the kinda shit I'd expect from this remake but my hopes are not high.
>>719942332
I suppose. People do mod the original version, but I guess best case this game can open up the moding scene more. Guess I'll wait and see, if mods can add in the shit they cut or more, that might change my mind.

>>719942452
I really enjoyed Tactics Ogre Reborn, so no, I don't know that.
I enjoyed the PSP version and the PSX version I had as a kid too.

>>719942264
I don't see an issue if you advertise things as what they really are.

>>719942332
and voice acting

>>719942529
I actually do own the mobile version, but yeah, the controls bother me too much and I wasn't able to finish. I know a lot of people are perfectly fine with it, so it's a Me thing, but I can't get past it.

>>719940618
They honestly should have included more crossover characters. I can see Sora from Kingdom Hearts making a fine all rounder unit since keyblade transformation means he can tap into all classes and weapon types.

>>719942545
I imagine you're not a purist either, though. I like modernized/stylized updates as well.

>>719942726
I dunno about Sora but they definitely have a lot of characters to choose from and I think most fans love the style enough that they would enjoy seeing more characters in it.

>>719942592
Right, technically true. It's something I genuinely don't care about that I forgot.
>>719942747
I think I would classify myself as purist as they come. But if you told me they were making a remake of FFT I would take it as it is. It could be either a good product or a bad one. If it was bad then I would just tell people to play the original as a superior experience. If it was good then I'd tell people to also look at the remake because it has some things to offer which are cool.

>>719942726
Didn't they make a SRPG gacha based around that idea? FF characters that is. I don't mind the cross over characters but I usually only use Luso cause Cloud takes forever to git gud and Baither's too good.

>>719942534
Butcher might have been too strong a word, I just didn't like the card system

>>719942913
I think you might have a different idea of what a purist is, maybe. Wanting a completely different look, massive gameplay changes, etc is not typically associated with purists.
I think you might just be a normal sane fan.

>>719942913
I said the same things you did but since I have an argumentative mind I realized we both forgot about the VA kek. Those are the big three things the remaster offers, the rest are things that are just different compared to the other versions

>>719942974
>I just didn't like the card system
That's very fair. It is very "gamey"-feeling (possibly unimmersive for some) and is a pretty drastic change.
I just happened to enjoy adding in that consideration in how I positioned my units and such, but it's 100% beyond a simple "enhancement" or QoL thing, it's a brand new gameplay element that is not going to hit for everyone.

>>719942962
They made several gachas, but it was all either turn based RPGs, ATB RPGs or mashing things to fling at something or so forth. Nintendo made the Fire Emblem Heroes as a very, VERY lite SRPG, but Square never bothered.

>>719934763
>retards think this blotcky mess looks good
eeyikes
I like crt filters but this one is hella overdone

Did any of SE's gachas do well? I feel like they're sitting on gold if they just made a good gacha.

>>719943008
I don't want a different look really but I would be open to them trying out something new. Now if you told me they were remaking FFT but it was gonna be a hybrid action game then I would probably shit on it. I guess everyone has different priorities and things they value.

>>719943215
nine gacha in the past decade, plus a mobile battle royale for vii
out of all attempts, only two still live between Record Keeper (JP only) and Ever Crisis, as everything else got shut down. Brave Exvius ended October last year overseas, and ends in JP at the end of next month.

>>719936307
Why would you reward developers for being lazy retards? What the fuck is wrong with you? If modding is your concern then you can mod FFT for free right now to a much greater degree than you'll ever be able to with the demake.

>>719943305
I was more wondering about how much money they've shoveled in, I know they've had many of them shut down.

>>719943215
I think (not 100% positive) SE gachas do "okay" for a relatively short period of time, but they all die out after a couple of years or less.
Like they're competing against shit like Genshin and things of that production value (and while I hate those games, they are on a whole other level compared to what Square is putting out gacha-wise)
I especially think the Tactics-style gacha is specifically designed to prey on those of us just desperate for more games of this genre

>>719943309
>slightly updating pixel art is being lazy retards
Calm down now. The point is that you can easily change them. It's a sprite, more than likely the old sheets will work straight away.
>If modding is your concern then you can mod FFT for free right now to a much greater degree than you'll ever be able to with the demake.
What...? It's obviously easier to mod a PC game.

>>719942962
Yeah they did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ejgh6Qhfjk

So Kingdom Hearts making special playable cameos is nothing new in Final Fantasy media.

>>719943305
I think they have a Dragon Quest style Tactics game gacha as well, or did that get shut down recently?

>>719941437
Only for the classic version of the game, enhanced script is different cause it's meant to be voice acted.

>>719941464
>>719942240
The psp and mobile versions have shitty audio and that weird hitch when using any skill, this video has the psp clips slowed down for some reason but is meant to shill the fan patch version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX6oT3PSUfg
Can't find Holy being compared, to me that's the worst one.

Also I don't see how the remake wouldn't have people immediately trying to mod it.

>>719943215
Unless they changed their way of doing things, and I really fucking doubt that, they cultivated a well earned reputation for pulling to plug on any gacha they release because they aren't instant money printers. Making it so anyone that might bother to play your gacha game knows not to spend any money is a huge issue, enough that they mention it in their investor reports on why their mobile division is doing so bad. This was a few years ago and they haven't really changed at all or recovered any goodwill.

>>719938806
>if you and millions of other goyim eat shit now we might make something you actually want down the road eventually
Maybe instead of dangling an imaginary sequel like a carrot they can make a game worth purchasing and advertise that instead.

>>719943371
>>719943471
I definitely wouldn't want a tactics gacha but it might be cool if they did something with their rotting IPs instead of continuing to release these shitty remasters.

>>719943454
Sora got into that World of Final Fantasy DLC too, alongside Xenogears and the Einhander Astraea ship. Frankly only a director and a game's active design keeps shit at bay, I wouldn't be surprised if Ever Crisis "suddenly" has collabs start appearing once it starts dying hard.

>>719943563
FFT TIC will sell 10 gorrilion copies and they will port FFTA, FFTA2, Crystal Defenders, and make FFT 2 and Crystal Defenders 2. Trust the plan.

>>719943563
Ok ok, but promise you will buy that game please.

>>719943645
>Crystal Defenders
I don't care if it wasn't necessarily good, I fucking had a lot of fun with this game, and was mad when it was no longer playable.

>>719943582
Given the actual focus of multiverse antics in FF7 Remake I'm surprised Sora didn't show up in a voiced cameo ala Gilgamesh. Square Enix is big into crossovers. Especially recent ones such as the Stellar Blade one with Nier.

>>719943563
I dunno. This is worth purchasing for me, but I was never under any impression that FF Tactics of all things was going to sell all that much. It'd be like trying to release an RTS in modern day, and expecting it to get the sort of engagement it did back when.

>>719943716
You can play the console versions still, thye have low FPS though which sucks. I think the mobile ports had higher FPS but I'm not sure.
I loved it too.

>>719942817
>>719943645
>>719943834
you can stop posting this AI slop

>>719933705 (OP)
Can you turn of the floating healthbars?

>>719943471
>The psp and mobile versions have shitty audio and that weird hitch when using any skill, this video has the psp clips slowed down for some reason but is meant to shill the fan patch version
Yeah I did notice that in the PSP version (that's usually the one I play when I wanna play on PC). Never on the mobile though, but I usually have the volume down because it's my phone kek.
>Also I don't see how the remake wouldn't have people immediately trying to mod it.
That's really the only hope I have for this remake. If the mods get decent that would probably get me to get it at some point. But I've played FFT since I was like 7 or some shit so if they wanna sell this to me they gotta offer more than some "better" graphics. Maybe I expect too much but maybe 10 years ago I would've picked this up at launch but I shouldn't have to worry about a remake of one of my favorite vidyas turning out shit.

>>719943905
I wish.

>>719944012
There was a toggle for them in Tactics Ogre iirc, Seems like it's in this version too

>>719944012
Don't think anyone knows yet. Unless there's a video out there I might've missed talking about optional settings or something.

>>719944113
>>719944148
I pray then

>>719943794
FFT is the most popular game in the genre and one of the most popular in the series relative to its sales. It's not an FPS or soulslike, but there is a market for SRPGs that aren't Fire Emblem. Even Triangle Strategy managed to sell 1m copies. FFT will sell much more than it deserves but never enough to justify another proper FF SRPG because Square is completely delusional with their sales figures. At best you get another "HD" "2D" slop port.

>>719944252
>FFT is the most popular game in the genre
Isn't Fire Emblem or Disgaea more popular? And I doubt it will sell that well but I hope it does.

>>719933817
How can you fail at improving a 30 year old game?
>>719934197
Has to be that.

>sequel
The thing is that they already put in the effort of completely rebuilding FFT already, SE really shouldn't need a huge number of sales to make a new game feasible. The foundation is already done.
But Square is retarded with expectations, so eh.

>>719944314
Good. Now I can't really say it looks cool because the lighting choice is very weird but ok.

>>719944252
Is Triangle Strategy good? Never found anything that scratches the same itch as FFT besides sorta FFV. Couldn't get into FE
>>719944364
Fire Emblem is probably more popular now. Disgaea is pretty niche. FFT is very enduringly popular, hell I've been in countless FFT threads that hit bump limit on /v/ over the years so it's not just the remake bumping interest.

I have demake fatigue

>>719941096
As the other anon said, it's less about 'too much work' and said work being actively displeasing considering Matsuno's poor treatment by SQEX.

>>719941097
Me too, but it's perfectly fine to be skeptical.

>>719944252
>FFT is the most popular game in the genre
No it's not. That's Fire Emblem, and FFT at NO POINT ever came remotely close to FE.
FFT is the most beloved among fans of the genre.
But you're right that it should sell "enough" more than likely if not for ridiculous Square expectations regarding sales.

>>719944469
>The foundation is already done
The amount of times I've heard or thought that an ended up being disappointed are countless. You are right to not expect anything.

>>719944469
I just hope the modders will crack it open, it would be super cool if they could make real modding tools so people could use the engine for custom games and stuff.

What gamers want are jobs with unique appearances using art based on Akihiko Yoshida's work. It doesn't matter what genre of game they make it but it would save Final Fantasy.

>>719944713
tangent, but I'm still mad that when they decided to make a new FF MMO with 14 and Ivalice was going all in (and the joke "FF12 is just a single player MMO" shit was going around) that FF14 wasn't Ivalice-based, but was just a reskin of FF11 races and shit.
tangent off.

>>719944834
Everytime I play FFT (if not doing a challenge run) I always have a female Ninja/Thief and Dancer/Monk for some reason. And Lavian is always a Samurai.

>>719944898
I hope there's an option to turn off Depth of Field. They went too overboard in my opinion.

>>719945005
Probably gonna need a mod for it, I heard them saying how the devs liked it. Retards..

>>719944834
>that one time I was determined to get a Dark Knight Ramza
What the fuck were they thinking I get making it hard to unlock and it should be but that was such a pain in the ass

>>719944364
Sorry, I meant one of the biggest series. I know FE has made strides since Awakening but even its biggest games only managed to sell a few million more copies. FFT and WotL alone sold around 2 1/2 million with much smaller markets, it's a huge overperformer for the genre.
>>719944559
FE was going to get shitcanned if Awakening flopped because its sales were consistently in the shitter. It's huge now, but the sales before then were pitifully small for such a prominent Nintendo series.

>>719945005
There's a preview video I saw that said it can be turned off, but I'm too lazy to hunt it down because I don't recall which one it was.

>>719945135
>with much smaller markets,
That's a really good point actually. PS1 and PSP markets were way smaller than several generations of consoles.

>>719945075
I never managed to grind a BK without vastly overleveling the rest of the game anyway.
They should be hard to unlock but still be within the usable range in the main story.
I know they said the remaster won't have WotL stuff but I hope they keep at least the extra classes, like they said they would with the script?

>>719944834
Cutest female sprites
Ninja > Geomancer > Monk > Dancer > White Mage
Just realized the physical classes show more skin generally

>>719944953
>>719945002
Didn't the Ace Attorney games get a similar treatment for PC? I still miss the jagged DS sprites.
But nothing can be done about it, can it? Just accept we like old shit and they belong in their era.

>>719945382
just copy and paste the sprite sheet

>>719945332
how could you forget archer

>>719933705 (OP)
I might be the only person in this thread that preferred FFTA and FFTA2. Like, yeah sure the story is much more interesting in FFT, but it felt like it was too easy to break, I remember the level up system being even more usable than later, and the builds weren't that interesting. Meanwhile, FFTA and FFTA2 introduced more races and more classes. FFTA2 even had some post game content (I think it was called something like moon tower, the monsters were level 99 and you needed some pretty strong builds to overcome them). Though one of the worst things these games had is that the stats gained from leveling were reliant on which class you were leveling up with, which kinda goes against the idea of needing to use different classes to unlock advanced classes.
I remember some of the coolest combos were like viera red mage + summoner with blood magick, assassin + green mage, moguri trickster(?) + time mage as a support to spam haste and accelerate/smile, human illusionist + seer to cast combined magick global AoE...

>>719945426
I found this. So they did copy and paste the sprites to some capacity? The people only posting the blurred version are just trying to bait, then?

You people are fucking retarded I swear.
I pre-ordered the PS5 physical edition for 39,99€.

>>719945294
It'd be perfect if they just kept the kill requirement and reduced it to downing an enemy instead of crystalizing them so it'd be more like a secret unlockable class than a tedious grind. Tactics Ogre was a little too obtuse with some of the class requirements (especially KoL emblems) but it was more engaging than just leveling classes up.

>>719945294
Yeah I agree. You could cut the requirements in half and it still might be tough to do without overleveling. Meanwhile making a dual wielding knight that moves as far as a ninja is much easier. Which is part of the fun but just unlocking DK sucks. They said no WotL content. Whether that means all of it or just the Delita scenes or what who knows. I would assume none of it

i think the classic version looks better to me. something about the jagged sharp edges rather than things being more rounded

>>719945491
I remember liking FFTA but thought it was gay and made for children because I was gay and a child.
Also, these games were basically japs taking stuff out of their ass, mixing with some weird formulae the players wouldn't see and seeing if they could land. On the one hand I appreciate their efford as vanguards in a genre, on the other hand these games are something of a broken mess. Not only FFT, it applies to TO etc.
Might appreciate it more replaying it today.

>>719945461
Archer is cute but is also the only job I really hate using which knocks her down a few points

>>719945651
I've always wondered if there's anything similar to FFT, with a similar formula, but more complex and interesting, with actually thought out mechanics and balance. Surely there has to be something, right?
And I remember trying out some tactics ogre and yeah, it seemed pretty weird/broken to me.

>>719945631
The colors are better too and it feels more like a diorama than some emulated port with a filter slapped on top. Niggers just hate being able to make out pixels for some reason.

>>719945558
classic version is PS1 + WOTL script
enhanced version is the one everyone will be playing

>>719945631
It's not the exact same of the original, but it seems they will make a more "pixelated" version available >>719945558
. No idea if it comes with old systems and gameplay quirks.
For some reason this made me want a OG64 re-release.

>>719945758
I know some people would prefer PS1 + WotL Script. Others hate the shakesperian script and would rather have QoL/New Stuff + Old Script sans engrish.
Square manages to make things in a way we never get a definitive edition no matter what.

>>719945491
Never tried FFTA2, but coming from FFT, Advance just stripped away all the stuff I liked about the original. Jobs restricted by race rather than being able to mix and match, jobs being less fleshed out, the law system, needing to learn abilities from equipment, taking away the gritty plot and setting for more generic fantasy, ect. It's not a terrible game, but it just less fun and interesting to me. I assume they wanted to try to balance it better, but FFT being unbalanced isn't a huge flaw imo because using busted set ups or choosing not to is part of the fun.

>>719945749
What's crazy is that you can play that version right now and have a good experience.
Instead, they want you to pay $70 for an inferior product. And yet people fall for it.

>>719945882
>I know some people would prefer PS1 + WotL Script.
They can already play a better version of this using an emulator.

>>719945950
JP was a messy grind but I don't know any way to replace it in a satisfactory way.
In a first playthrough that you are finding out about jobs and testing skills, grinding stuff is too much.
But it works well in replays when you have an idea of what you want to build and save your points for those skills you really want.
TO had some esoteric weird requirements like alingment and stats that wouldn't aling very well with FF's Job System.

>>719935085
>>719933705 (OP)
Is there a reason why this game isn't getting absolutely shit on for obvious AI upscaling? Look how fucking soft everything looks

>>719946026
People aren't falling for anything. Different people are looking for different things from a FFT release.

They should make a FFT2 (totally unrelated to 1 story wise but still in Ivalice or whatever) but use that 2D-HD style. Maybe it's the only game that it would fit just right.
FFT is too much of a classic to have this experiment upon itself.

>>719946154
Different things like what, objectively less content because you get a few voice lines?

I also found this.

>>719946262
I'm not getting less content.

>>719946268
>fully voiced dialogue

>>719946293
How so?

>>719946268
>adjustments to the story
Are they gonna remove Delita bitch slapping Ovelia at the end? lmao
I know they removed Celes getting beat up in FF6 re-releases because it originally released before CERO was a thing and having prisoners being hit is a big no-no but the zeitgeist made everyone thing it was a woke change anyway.

>>719946207
>but use that 2D-HD style.
kys

>>719946038
Yeah the JP menu isn't great, but it gets the job done and allows you freedom to grow your characters how you want which I like. Other than obviously a clear description of what each skill does, the only improvement I can think is maybe a little demonstration window showing how certain abilities can be used.

>>719946327
This has all the PSX content plus more.

>>719946303
They seem to be updating the WotL translation specifically to make the dialogue more proper for being voiced, and a little more of a blend of old and new translations? It's weird.

>>719946038
JP was fine but it needed a lot of tweaking because for some classes you'd have to stay one job for like half the game if you wanted everything without grinding. There were just too many redundant unlocks. Why unlock ice/fire/bolt and all of their upgrades instead of just the whole line of ara/aga/aja at once? Why does each item have to be unlocked? Same with charge and jump. FFTA could've been better about the grind but 90% of its good skills are locked behind weapons which you can only unlock one at a time until you get ninja way later than you should.

>>719946342
Unless it was removed from the WotL version, then no. The CERO change happened before WotL was released.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=o24xRpt4TQk

For anyone interested, there's this hour-long video about how they're making the Remaster.
I don't think it's great but considering Square's track record of remasters, this one might be above average.

>>719946380
You keep saying that but what are you getting?
But there are versions afterwards that did add more, so why aren't they included as well?

>>719946405
>ben starr

o i am laffin

>>719946405
>They seem to be updating the WotL translation specifically to make the dialogue more proper for being voiced
No. WotL translation is solely being used for the Classic Version of the game for English version.
The Enhanced Version will be translated based on the revised Matsuno script he did for voice work.

>>719946342
He stabs her, but he doesn't kill her, but she dies shortly after anyways. I think that's one of the parts that are going to be edited because Matsuno got a lot of questions about the ambiguity of the whole ending.

>>719946476
It has the JP only story adventures that were never released outside Japan and the other stuff.
It has all the PSX stuff plus additional. That's the version I grew up on, never played the PSP version.

They must remove zombie Argath from WotL. That was so fucking lame.
Let the based dude rest in literal pieces.

Imma be real with you, I'm getting this remaster but no fucking way for $60. Maybe once it gets 40% off.

>>719946547
>and the other stuff.
>plus additional.
Do you even know what is being added, or just that "things are being added"? Those JP only missions are playable today.

>>719946262
I always wondered what the novels were all about since they were cut from every version outside of Japan.

>>719946342
They've made it so that unique characters no longer disappear from the story after permanently joining your party. Also fleshing out some things, Elmdor's motivation for joining the braves was specifically mentioned.

ive preordered this game btw

>>719946631
Anon, you're weirdly upset that I'm not getting "less content". I'm pointing out that I'm not.
Voice lines, JP only story adventure, alternate means of encounters than the OG random encounters, etc. There's videos on it.
And a native PC application.
Not saying it's for everyone. It's what I'm getting. I didn't lose content. I got what I had, plus more.

>>719946728
No. You're not getting Ludo (nobody used or found him anyway) and Balthier. Objectively less content! Absurd!

>>719946764
Who the fuck's Ludo?
I know Balthier is from FF12.

>>719946650
I wonder how difficult was program flags for these characters and their dialogue if they died permanently after joining you and so they were gone from the story.
Fire Emblem "solved" that by having important characters retreat and never being able to be deployed in combat again despite being present in the story and not being game over conditions.

I just don't get why they couldn't get a team to make new sprites, they have the guys who did Octopath, Live A Live, Triangle Strategy, etc.

>>719946829
It's the protagonist from FFTA2, which released months after WotL. I think FF12 was released around that time. Both were tacked-on additions to promote parallel game releases.
It's even good they were removed from the remaster because they feel like violating a good story in favor of having merchandising shoved in. Balthier was mad strong, tho.

>>719933705 (OP)
>muddy filter on the spritework
It's not hard for it to be a hit, but somehow they find a way to ensure that it will be a miss right from the start. I don't know how they do it.

>>719934763
Not every household was headed by bums that couldn't afford good CRTs. Especially around the PS1's time.

>>719946882
Was Balthier not optional like Cloud in the PSP version? I just sort of assumed it'd be a Cloud situation.

>>719946836
Programming it isn't hard but FFT was originally made in a super crunched schedule of 13 months or so, so they probably couldn't justify writing all this dialogue for characters that might die or not even be unlocked or used. One of the cool stuff in WotL was getting a secret reward for keeping the generic knights from the monastery battle.

>>719946881
FFT's sprites look better than all of those games

>>719933919
VC flopped.
That's why it ended with the 4th one.

Vagrant Story.
Not a remaster, a full remake. Make the systems less obtuse, can go full in on the artstyle without PSX limitations.

>>719933919
>>719947123
At first I liked VC1 but then realized the game wanted you to play it like a tranny speedrun to get bigger bonuses instead of really enjoying the combat.
Never tried it again and hope they changed it in the sequels.

>>719947123
>10m budget
>1 million + in sales
>flop

>>719947026
The ugly filtered ones look worse.

>>719947009
Balthier is optional but really hard to miss. Luso I'm pretty sure is mandatory. You don't have to take either of them though.

>>719947212
>I'm bad and this casual as fuck game filtered me
kek

>>719947359
Enjoy your dead """strategy""" series.

you fags are really pathetic with this weird obsession with every game being a tortanic

>>719947435
TORtanic buckbroke /v/ irreparably.
And it gets doubly worse when it comes to FF/Square. Just look at FF16 and 7R.

>>719947435
this isn't really a /v/ tortanic-type situation.
it's a "ff fans are super into the games, but borderline mentally ill occasionally" kind of thing.

>>719947435
I don't think people are anticipating a tortanic (hell this thread has been mostly civil). Just FFT fans tend to really like the game me included, so people are either trying to be optimistic or just disappointed. I don't think it'll be a disaster but I do think it'll be underwhelming especially for full price. But I'd be glad to be proven wrong.

>>719946525
They also mentioned some kind of collaboration with Ramza's JP VA, whatever that means.

>>719946616
Yeah, that seems to be the way to go for older players.

>>719947628
And the way they did TO Reborn isn't a good track record, either.

>>719947435
there's just some fags here weirdly obsessed with SQEX downfall since the games they make aren't to their liking anymore

>>719947697
That's very subjective.
TO Reborn is my favorite version.

>>719939087
They're adding content that was originally cut from the ps1 version. There's about 4 CYOA stories that was never completed. Pizza Boy and Balthier are so out of place that I won't be missing them.

>>719947746
how grindy is it compared to a psp version? got a nice voucher in a key store so might as well try it

>>719944314
wow I misread that as refining but even they didn't have the gall to call this trash a refinement

>>719948302
nta but far less grindy than the PSP version, since a good chunk of stuff you might've had to grind for in that version are properties of weapons now, and others are tied to the individual class level now

>>719948302
Reborn removed a lot of the grinding. The game throws EXP at you so quickly and gives you additional items that give you EXP, so you can level up a lot of units even if you don't bring them all into every battle you fight. Skill leveling is also very fast as you get a boost to weapon ranks just by levelling up, and tiered skills are automatically unlocked at certain levels. You don't have to buy skills or skill slots either. Endgame weapon drops are still a little grindy if you want the best versions of them but in my playthrough of Reborn I did maybe an hour of grinding. This is a huge difference when compared to the absolute grindfest that is the PSP version.

>>719938806
>buy game OR ELSE
this never worked and never will, japs never learn

>>719948913
especially not a tactical RPG
too niche

>>719938806
Where's my Battle Network sequel. The collection did really well.

>>719935085
>knight is slow as fuck
>his movement range is inferior because he's supposed to be a damage dealing tank
>knight in the backline archers (with range) in the frontline
I know they were brainwashed by the church into a suicide mission but come on.

Btw to all newcomers: squire (except ramza) and chemist have cancer stat growths, learn jp boost, stone, focus and move+1 from squire and then potion, phoenix down, auto-potion and maybe throw items (not necessary) from chemist and never level up in those classes ever again, in the previous games you were supposed to abuse a mechanic in the game to fix their gross mistake, step on delevelator traps in the bard/dancer class and then relevel as a good class, hope they fixed this but it seems they lowered jp costs so the game is more human.

>>719940331
Very minor stuff, it's actually better than the original that feels like a fucking google translate.
The biggest offenders are that they replaced "god" with "father" and a couple phrases in the entire game that feel pretentious.

>>719948412
>>719948632
You sold me. Didn't like the idea of cards and mobile UI much, but they're minor elements anyway.

>>719941175
The OG Fat Bastard huh
He probably boned her brother too

>>719933705 (OP)
reminder SE did make an FFT spiritual sequel, it's just stuck on mobile. I'd actually be interested in them doing an Octopath 0, taking those assets, and remaking war of the visions as singleplayer game with a good FFT story.

>>719951182
Cards are kinda annoying but it's fun. nta but I used one of the mods on the nexus and I think it was good. Only weird thing I noticed is that the Agrias clone girl can jump 9999 meters into the air but maybe that's normal? I figured it was a bug from the mod lol

>>719933768
kek
>>719933919
I'd love a VC game in a fantasy/space setting.

>>719933705 (OP)
>Agrias Lv.25
>Holy Knight Lv. 6
Huh? Is this a new thing?

>>719952589
No. You leveled your characters and they got stats based on your Job in your level up and they also leveled their jobs up to rank 9 or something, that's when they got that star over their Job icon in the select screen.

>>719952589
Oh right the game has separate levels, been so long since I last played it

>>719952650
It's just that JobLv was tied to JP and IIRC had no relevance other than unlocking other Jobs. The real power up came from spending JP to buy skills.

>>719933705 (OP)
YoshiP and his cronies in charge? More likely than you think.

I hope fftactics remake means a new tactics game

>>719954480
It will be gachified and possibly an autobattler.
We live in the Monkey's Paw era.

>>719954480
>>719954523
see>>719943645
trust the plan

Don't care
The gba tactics game was the best one

>>719945160
https://youtu.be/hD-snNhcuh4?t=219

>>719955109
Thanks, anon.

>>719949872
>you were supposed to abuse a mechanic in the game to fix their gross mistake
Even playing sub-optimally the game is not that hard. You don't have to do any of that crap if you are not min-maxing for uber-units that can solo maps.

>>719955109
that's good
I like DOF sometimes in 3D games but it's obviously fucking retarded for a game like this

>>719955512
I'm not even sure that degree of minmaxxing is relevant even in the bonus dungeon.
The game has difficulty spikes and can catch you off guard here and there, sure, but nothing to warrant going that unhinged on spreadsheets.

>>719955584
It's absolutely never relevant for any content the game has. Probably never relevant for any interesting challenge you can think either. It's just so that you can test the game limits and see funny numbers.

>>719933768
>>719933919
>>719934763
>>719935085
>>719935329
They should have made it pixalated graphics like Sword of Convallaria.
Heck I think the Sword of Convallaria devs got inspired from the original FFT art.
WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY MAKE THE GRAPHICS PIXALATED AAAAAAAGGGGHHHH

>>719955671
I disagree. nu-FFT still looks fine. If you want to add pixels just use a sharpening filter.

What are the best zodiac signs for 3 female generics? Aesthetically speaking.

>>719956113
Virgo, Scorpio and Gemini

>>719933919
I'm also disappointed they aren't giving it a bigger facelift. I'm not even asking 3D, just gorgeous 2d sprites and new hand drawn maps. seeing these ugly psone polygons in 2025 is just being disrespectful to the original game. but I am not surprised, remember what square did to old ff game when adding ugly character models and times new roman font LMAO

>>719956151
Hmm why Scorpio?

>>719956113
I read somewhere that Gemini is the best pick for Ramza to prepare you for the harder fights in FFT, so if you pick that then Sagittarius for female generics.

>>719956294
Wasn't it Taurus for destroying most of the bosses?

>>719934621
>VC and FFT are both series that I would love to see branch off into other genres.
VC did with Valkyria Revolution.
>The music is similar
It's the exact same composer for all of these games.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitoshi_Sakimoto

>>719956401
Gemini gives you bad compat with Miluda, Wiegraf, Algus, Gafgarion, Velius, Celia, Ultima. In the 1v1 with Wiegraf, and the fight where Razma is on the other side of the gate fighting Gaf it can help to have bad compat with them. There are no Libra/Aquarius bosses so you'll never have good compat with bosses. I plan on playing on the Tactician difficulty when the game comes out, and the devs said it's going to have some pretty tough fights. Having bad compat with half of the bosses should prevent Ramza from getting insta killed by shit like Wiegraf's holy sword attacks.

>>719957102
Getting instashot by a mechanic that's either not explained or chosen for you based on another kind of parameter (birth date in a fictional calendar) is a bad design choice itself.

>>719956754
>VC did with Valkyria Revolution.
That wasn't a video game, it was a literal turd.

>>719957102
I always aimed for good compat because I liked to use break skills that ruin bosses.

>>719956113
You want the aesthetics, huh? Then it’s gotta be Libra, Pisces, and Taurus. Libra for the graceful, indecisive white mage type that always ends up in the middle of love triangles on your headcanon playthrough. Pisces because every party needs a soft-spoken mystic with anime hair covering one eye who crit-heals at the worst times. And Taurus? That’s your no-nonsense punch girl, armor-clad and ready to suplex demons. Plus, their colors just look right in the lineup.

>>719957669
Sounds pretty good. What about a reclusive weird black mage girl that likes to turn people into frogs?

>>719933898
>remove content
you get to deploy five units and at lest one is ramza and the other is your summoner/time mage/calc that obliterates everything turn one, wtf am i supposed to do with 40+ units?

>>719935791
>Retroarch
pls, i don't want to rememer that nightmare.

>>719955671
Sword of Convallaria looks like nu-habbo-hotel or something, the style is childlike and kind of shit imo. Tactics Ogre has a similar problem, I think tactics games need a darker style to really sell.