Thread 719950043

Deadlock? More like shitlock.

>20 mins of pop the balloon simulator for 20 mins then 1 team fight

Whoa Valve are amazing and revolutionary.

I only like Mina in this game. I legit struggle to find 3 other characters. Who the fuck are you guys playing???

>>719950116
>Who the fuck are you guys playing???
We don't play games here.

>>719950116
by design or gameplay

>>719950116
>Who the fuck are you guys playing???

Like 90% of all people who have played Deadlock, I quit less than 2 months after the invites started going out. Is there any reason to even try the game anymore or will I just be clowned on by retards who play have somehow already played the game for 5 thousand hours

>>719951218
Ignore the typo, I'm tired

>>719951271
bichette

>>719951349
Which hero is that. I haven't played in a while

>>719951218
If you play around this period there's a lot more people because of the new heroes so you'll likely get matched with people on your skill level. Matchmaking ranks are on by default.

>>719951218
Ranks exist deadtard
If you haven't played for a while you will get rank decayed into the shitter brackets where you can play against your fellow shitters

Cope and seethe Marveltroon

i like shiv he's coooool

>>719951606
between them and the League of Legends shills...

Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

>>719951878
0 fucking custom intro. You are a failure

>Gee, what kind of hero could I have for the game
>Holy shitting fuck I have 69 heroes that I need to program so I better hurry up
>Ah, a bellhop. Fucking perfect
>Next hero

>>719950043 (OP)
Yo, OP

its a moba
they'll add new gamemodes for cazzies later though ride it out

icefraud and robin wanker are terrible vidya designers if you haven't noticed
if you don't know who robin is he is that dumbass who added random crits to team fortress 2 to solve an imaginary problem in his head

Just tried this game. It's dogshit.

>>719953657
>He fell for the deadlock meme

>>719953657
Shocking that a game that combines 2 dogshit genres would be dogshit

>>719953605
>he is that dumbass who added random crits to team fortress 2
Unfathomably based

>>719953946
contrarian lol

>>719953996
Ok guy who autistically saved a niche meme just to prop up his opinion in case this ever came up on 4chan

>>719954164
>crits are fair and balanced
>niche
whatever secondary

once the game is polished and has a 200 euro battlepass and a 30 million dollar tournament it's gonna be big

>>719953605
So you're telling me the guy that added the best mechanic to tf2 is working on deadlock? Might check this game out

>>719954401
no you won't
you are just being unfunny
seriously deadlock is shit, stay away. i'm saying this fully aware of your bait just in case retards here think you are unironic

>>719954386
This but unironically.

>>719950043 (OP)
What's your obsession with popping balloons.
No game ever has only 1 teamfight. The laning phase is over by ~10 minutes and if you're only shooting orbs then you're fucking up every other aspect.

>>719954594
The daily dose of shitlock

>>719954461
Random crits are unironically the best part of tf2 and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. The loud minority of secondaries that cry about random crits should play another game if they hate it so much.

>>719950116
for me, it's goo

>>719951565
Matchmaking in this game is acknowledged to be really shit.

>>719954913
>Random crits are unironically the best part of tf2
bold claims from a post 2016 newfag

>>719954594
A game being boring for any amount of time is bullshit.

>>719955010
Been playing since orange box on 360, maybe you should stop projecting.

>>719950116
The only characters I can play are Billy/Warden. I want to try drifter but he's super popular...
Might give seven a try, luv me some edgy bastards.

>>719954594
>10 minutes of shooting bubbles

>>719955113
tell me how many times they nerfed crit rates

>>719954913
>>719955010
>>719955113
>one retard calling people who don't like crits "secondaries"
>one retard pointlessly accusing the other guy of being post 2016
You know you can both argue your case without having to make bullshit accusations.

>>719955176
Don't care, you're the one obsessed with crits despite pretending to hate them.

>>719950116
well I'm not gay, so personally I play Bebop, Viscous, Mo & Krill, and Dynamo AKA the only heterosexual characters

>>719955215
>>719955216
pro crit niggers are contrarian trolls and don't play video games
if you unironically read something like "crits are best part of tf2" and still have doubts you aren't talking to a troll you have a brain damage

>>719955157
If you're doing just that for the entire 10 minutes then it's no surprise you're moaning in threads like a low tier shitter

>anticritroons unironically think they are the majority
LMAO

I considered playing again for a second then realized I'd be playing against sweaty niggers

no thanks

>20 minutes of pop the balloon simulator
Dokkan player get lost?

>>719955349
you exposed yourself the moment you said "crits are best part of tf2"
know when to quit and take the L

>>719950116
I main Viscous, Bebop and Mo & Krill. So basically, I'm an annoying cunt.

>>719955418
Are you actually delusional enough to think your fringe opinion is held the the majority?

>>719955602
>the the
>captcha: HYAHA

>>719955695
I accept your concession.

>>719950043 (OP)
i really enjoyed it when it was new. everyone's too good now and i just dont enjoy it.

>>719950043 (OP)
nothing about this game seems appealing or even like a valve game

looks like chinese slop

>>719953996
RNG should be in more games

>>719953996
kys, unwashed compfag. Your kind has only made tf2 worse over the years with retarded demands

>>719955816
It triggers autists that can't adapt to unforeseen situations.

Reminder that faggots who cry about crits were never real tf2 fans.
Crits are part of tf2 and are to stay. Cocksuckers can fuck off to whatever trash game they came from.

b b but only contrarians like crits? the majority hates crits!

>>719955816
RNG is fun when it is properly implemented
Random critical hits mechanic is one of the worst implementation of RNG in video games
>>719955870
You can't live in fear. Do you just stop playing the game because some random scout has a chance to randomly blast you for 180 damage?
Be reasonable anon, which is asking much from this board I know but still...

>>719950043 (OP)
Heroes of the Storm was right.

>>719956005
>You can't live in fear. Do you just stop playing the game because some random scout has a chance to randomly blast you for 180 damage?
What the fuck are you on about?

When are they adding random crits to deadlock?

>>719950043 (OP)
Dota clears 'slock

>>719956152
The worst aspect of Deadlock being made by Valve is that it has a natural spillover of spergs from TF2 who can't let go.

>>719956148
>It triggers autists that can't adapt to unforeseen situations.
You wrote this

>>719956404
What the fuck does that have to do with living in fear? Are you afraid of fucking video games?

>>719956506
Fix your reading comprehension.
You said people don't adapt to random crits as if that is something you can adapt to. The only way to not die to instant random lasers of death is you guessed it, never leave spawn which is obviously not viable way to play TF2. Making your entire claim look stupid.

>Supporting Valve after how they treated Artifact
I shiggy diggy hope you guys don't scooby doo this.

>>719956675
Are you actually fucking retarded?

>>719956764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLX0CjMO-Q

>>719956703
I never cared about Artifact from the moment it was revealed. Digital CCG's are all the same time wasting cancer. I never saw one second of gameplay and I'm glad it's dead.

>>719954997
Works on my machine

>>719956152
The delusion of Deadlock overtaking TF2 in terms of popularity lives rent free in their head, even though it isn't realistic.
It was fine to have competition against OW1, but this is a Valve game too, they have a real inferiority complex about it.
I say this as a TF2fag. Deadlock is fun.

>>719956959
Yes, to be honest I thought that game was a joke from day one. Whoever thought needing to pay money to play a f2p game might as well work for Konami with how much they obviously hate gamers.

>>719956703
>waaaa my shitty card game that no one cared about!
>I'm gonna bitch about it every day on /v/ to be a contrarian cunt!
>animeposter

>>719951972
I want to make out with Doorman's Eldritch butthole

>>719956909
Your "argument" is so bizarre and retarded that it's impossible the argue against. How do you play video games?

>>719950116
I try to play Shiv because he's somewhat similar to Axe but I fucking suck with him

>>719955763
This is the case with every esports tripe. Once the unemployed people decide to make a game their full time job, it always turns to shit.

>>719957273
I don't

>>719957340
Only the execution is. The rest you have to whittle them down and then go for the kill.
You can get some interesting results from either going maximum duration bleed along with backstabber and toxic bullets. Berserker because you're constantly taking damage.
His passive and damage cancel also means if you get mystic regen and the heal booster then you're incredibly annoying to kill.
Split shot can also be fun with his shotgun and alt fire.

>>719951218
Like another anon said. Valve doesn't know this because they are retards and they just lucked their faces into it
But the way to bring fresh people into a moba is launching 6-7 heroes at once.
>lots of fresh dynamics
>variety
>everyone is new with them, there's more noobs
>you can actually get play them if they are a bunch
Having a set rooster, and releasing ONE hero, is a treat to the fanbase, but it doesn't build fanbase nor shake the meta.
Play NOW, it's fresh for like another month

>>719956703
They're bringing it back anyway so it's fine.
https://youtu.be/Ruj42i-lIc8?si=o6hEjyMAnuvj3Y1A

>>719953605
>random crits
>bad
Plebeian.

We need to go beyond random crits. We need random misses as well.

>>719951218
>Is there any reason to even try the game anymore
It was improved a lot both in terms of mechanics and visuals. Also, there a bunch of new heroes.

Random crits should be able to random crit

Are the recommended items fine? I've been finding I fall off super hard and I can only suspect I'm not building correctly

>>719961407
You're better off finding a decent build with items notations where the person explains why they think you should buy a certain item in a certain situation. They might not be right but it will at least help you understand what other people are building on your character and why which will help you learn to make your own build decisions.

>>719961407
They can get you started but I wouldn't rely on them past the first match.
Are you filled in on how spirit power affects skills and items and aware that items do affect other items?

>>719955268
Pro critters are the ones who most engage in bullshit revisionism I will say that.

But just because it's true that crits have always had a load of hate doesn't mean there aren't people who unironically like them. Problem is people are less likely to be vocal when the status quo is in their favor.

>>719956963
Supposedly you're superskilled at the game so the matchmaking not working just means more shit players for you to fuck up so you're not going to notice a problem.

>>719956703
>after how they treated Artifact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4jPtrDCLo
Nobody wanted Artifact.

My only gripe with this game is that there's too many active items.
I don't think the mechanical real life skill of pressing more buttons have any place in the game design, game enjoyment and game balance.
Imagine the game rewarding you if you have a gyroscope in your mouse, and you do more damage with an item if you spin your mouse.

>>719962808
>Supposedly you're superskilled at the game so the matchmaking not working just means more shit players for you to fuck up
No, lol. I play support Ivy and I'm in emissary at the moment.
There's shit players on both teams in pisslow, and occasional smurfs on your or their team, but people only ever notice the things they can whinge about.
This even applies in high MMR. Everyone has blowout games sometimes where they just completely fucking suck and achieve nothing, and autists will use that as "proof" that matchmaking's fucked. Meanwwhile, they'll pretend their own blowout games where they get completely trashed just never happen, and they've never been the reason somebody else would complain about shit matchmaking.
There's shitters, deal with it, they have to get matchmade somewhere and they end up on both enemy teams and your teams, and even if you're in a rank where there's supposed to be no shitters (you're not), people just fuck up sometimes

I can only get roughly 3 matches in a work night, games too long, I'll forever be a shitter

>>719950116
Hello Mina brother. I am queueing Vindicta, Paradox, and Seven as my non-new alts (I don't care for Seven but he is a popular pick so you don't end up on him much). But i am also queueing Billy and Victor at +1 because they're fun and I get them as alts more often than the non new chars. I was doing Doorman but his door placing is pretty bugged, so I'll add him back on when Valve tidies it up

>>719963520
So everything >>719951565 says is bull.

>>719950116
warden
abrahams
mcginnis
infernus
wraith
Still testing stuff with dynamo

>>719963746
Why on earth would you think these two posts are mutually exclusive

>>719963746
No that’s still true, and it was a serious problem with the influx of new players and old returning, but that got sorted out within days, doesn’t stop people from assuming they’re still playing against people leagues above or below them

>>719950756
>only 157 commends
I have a fraction of your playtime and have like 80. Do people really envy The Lash that much?

>>719963884
The post in >>719951565 was saying that ranked keeps shitters from playing with anyone skilled while >>719963520 just goes on to say that isn't the case and the matchmaker does actually end up causing both to play with each other.

everyone is getting baited to play this game will eventually hate it after it comes out. i can't wait.

>>719964124
NTA but what I think he’s saying is that low ranks are for people who are genuinely bad 100% of the time while high ranks are people who are bad occasionally.

>>719964001
Well, I started playing before commends were a thing. Also, I'm just bad at the game.

Playing support is really not rewarding, since you are dependent on others. Can't win if your carry can't kill Victor even with me having antiheal items (Like not a single gun carry having Venom Ammo). Therefore I will continue to play gun Paige.

>>719964124
I suppose you could take those messages off them if you wanted to keep it stupidly simple, sure.
If you want to actually use your brain though, what I'm saying in>>719951565 is that shitters in pisslow will generally play with other shitters because they're in roughly the same pisslow rank.
Although it's not said directly in that post, it's also noticeable that high ranked players will generally play with other high ranked players because they're in roughly the same high rank.

What I'm saying in >>719963520 is that 99% of people complaining about matchmaking are complaining because they had one or more shitters on their team and their game was never winnable. Meanwhile, they'll pretend that the games where the enemy team was never going to win against them just never happened, and still continue to think matchmaking is the problem whenever they get shitstomped... but never when they stomp. It's working as intended then. Nothing out of the ordinary.
I also said that occasionally you'll even see people in high ranks complain about matchmaking as though it's the problem and not just that someone on their team had a bad game for one reason or another, which does happen. In the same vein, however, those same high ranked people will never be caught complaining about the times their high rank enemies happened to have a bad game and got stomped.

None of these statements are mutually exclusive with any of the others.

Since melee is shit right now what is the best build for Abrams right now? I go full green at the moment but I wonder what else I can do.

>>719964604
There aren't many "supports" who don't build damage anyways. The only heroes I see going hard support are like, Visc or Ivy, and even then those characters can still take some support items and then start building AP/WP afterward.

>>719964672
>99% of people complaining about matchmaking are complaining because they had one or more shitters on their team
But >>719951218 was complaining about the other end. About ending up in games with really skilled/experienced players and getting fucked by them. And while you're saying that the matchmaker generally keeps the players separate you're now acknowledging it will happen.

>>719964737
Abrams gun is disgusting even if you don't bother melee'ing
Just go full close quarters gun and shoot instead of punch
FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE: Arctic Blast rush spirit Abrams

>>719955816
RNG is fine and cool, completely static competitive games get stale even if they're deep
crits are poorly implemented

>>719964604
Support is fine if your character already has some sort of teammate targeting ability.
Viscous, Paige, Kelvin, Ivy and even Geist have viable reason to pick up one of the 3k healing items with healing temp and just merge it with any other spirit build.

>>719964737
I'm kinda wondering if parry should have just been made an active item. It would be nice to make the extra key free and give melee heroes like Abrams more of a chance knowing players would have to specifically buy to counter him.

>>719965074
Where's your reading comprehension? He's not complaining, he's asking a hypothetical question. "if I pick it up again now, will I get clowned by autists who've played for 5k hours" is a QUESTION, anon, not a statement or a complaint. Any wonder you're having trouble here.
And for the record, the answer to his question is by and large no. There will be occasional anomalies such as smurfs, which is unfortunate, but for the most part he will be playing with and against other shitters. There will be the usual problem of pubstomp heroes popping off in that rank and making it feel like he never had a chance due to his lack of experience, and that too is unfortunate and definitely frustrating. But that is not a matchmaking problem, so much as it is a genre problem.

Assfaggots is assfaggots is assfaggots. No skill just checking bullet point lists and hoping your teammates aren't retards to give you a 50/50 coin flip outcome

>>719964376
oh that explains it then

>>719965573
if that were true there wouldn't be high rank players with 60+% winrates

>>719954260
>he thought people were serious with that
lmao

>>719951218
yes actually
>total shop rework with item icons that are easier to identify
>map changes, now it is 3 lanes of 2 instead of 4 lanes with two of them being single lanes
>new heroes are mostly easy to play except doorman, but he is the most fun
I tried during Christmas last year and came back recently and the game is much better now imo. Still pretty far from a release state though.

>>719955440
i simply cannot grasp viscous. I am fucking terrible at him. Still pretty excited for his visual rework. good tourist is such a funny idea lmao

>>719956703
I'll support then especially because I don't wanna see anything like artifact or dota underlords ever again in my life.

>>719961407
If you buy fortitude you are the biggest retard gorilla groid on the planet and I want you out of my games

>>719965264
lmao learn to melee at the right time faggot the game shouldnt be dumbed down just for you

>>719966063
Its funny since the ball arguebly is still one of the best ults in the game

>>719950043 (OP)
It was hilarious when the game first came out, and you could tell which players were MOBAfags who'd never played a shooter, and which players were shooterfags who'd never played a MOBA.

>>719965264
theres an item for parrying called rebuttal which functionally does this. If you are just mashing melee you are scarfing candy like a fat child and you should be punished for it.

Bait out parries, make them flinch, use light melees and not full send heavies on repeat, fake out the enemy by missing on purpose

>buy orange
>lose

>buy purple
>win

nice game deadtards

>>719967032
>whole team buys purple
>lose because enemy team each bought a 3.2k green and nobody on your team bought orange
>lose
Nice game indeed, gitgud

>>719966798
How the fuck is that dumbing down? Parry would still be in the game. If anything there's an adding point of complexity because "can they parry?" becomes a variable.
>>719966983
Then why doesn't that apply to blindly shooting?
>there is an item that punishes that
Precisely, an item.

>>719967168
The game is more complex now because "they can parry" is always the case.
Removing the ability just to make it an item reduces build variety and forces players to buy it to counter the threat.

do I have to manually spend points on skills/abilities, or is there a way to automate it to whatever the build recommends?
I'm tired of trying to tab/alt an ability when I'm in the middle of a fight

>>719967318
It literally increases build variety by making parrying a variation.

>>719967168
return fire is an item that punishes someone blindly shooting you ignorantly retard, same with metal skin

>>719967450
That was the very point I was making you dumbass.

>there is an item that punishes that
>Precisely, an item.

>>719967168
It's an interesting idea, but the only form of it that would be acceptable would be if the standard parry remained but was made markedly worse (shorter parry window, shorter stun on parry, longer recovery time on whiff etc) and then was buffed to around what it is now with an 800g item that would then upgrade into Counterspell.
Either way, I don't think it's necessarry. HMC with your boots or crank left when you think they'll parry so they whiff it.

>>719967394
It's recommended for a reason. If you blindly follow the item purchases and ability levels without regards for what you're facing then you're going to do worse than those who adapt for each game.

>>719967443
It reduces it by relegating one item to being the parry enabler.

yeah make feinting possible so you have to guess when melee is up close but it should be a guess

laning against heavy melee as it currently is when you have to buy a good parry sounds unpleasant

>>719967516
and theres an item for punishing parries which we already established

If you cant get them to flinch to force their parry CD you are just dogshit at the game, I am an Honest Abe main so this isn't bias, if I can do it and you cannot - you are utter trash

>>719967669
>and theres an item for punishing parries which we already established
No it's the opposite. Rebuttal is an item that reward parrying, not punishes it. You just keep digging yourself deeper.

Making a melee character like Billy is retarded when getting parried once is a guaranteed death no matter how low the person you're attacking is.

>>719950116
Haze when I want to sweat. Calico, Ivy or Billy when I want to have fun.

>>719967443
theres already variation because its given to everyone should we make shooting something you have to buy as well because youre too fucking dumb to dodge bullets?

>>719967032
you have to click on head to outdamage purple with orange

>stun somebody with abrams
>melee charge whiffs behind them and slides on the wall for some reason
what the fuck is going on

>>719968612
>there's already variation because its given to everyone
That's literally the opposite of variation.

>>719969019
Your ISP thought it'd be funny.

>>719969019
Hotboxes on shoulder check are funny like that

Is healing mcginnis or dyanmo viable?

>>719950043 (OP)
I'm good at this game, Ascendant 4 and just play what I find fun which is about half the roster, but I main Paradox, Calico and some others.

Everyone I know, and I have tried a dozen gamers to get into it, gets filtered by this game because of the endless farming. This game reminds me a LOT of elden ring: nightreign, in both games I feel the clock ticking and that I cannot waste a single second of time. In deadlock if you are not generating gold you are actively throwing. How many fucking games do you guys have where you are 19/0 and literally behind gold of a 0 kill retard?
This just doesn't make sense compared to any other MOBA including dota 2. If you have this many kills you are obviously farming as well. But in Deadlock you can be 15/3 and actively detrimental to your own chances of winning since you would be DOUBLE the gold from farming npc camps. Why the fuck is it like this.

>>719972740
its a bit of a double edge sword. On the other hand, if you die its nowhere near as punishing like League for example. In Lol if you die once in the early game you can usually consider your lane over, or near over.

'vy on the /v/

>>719974767
Did they actually change her model? I haven't played in a while.

>>719974975
yes

>>719975092
Still cute, I guess. Would still kiss.

>>719975257
same

>>719972740
it feels like kills/deaths aren't actually worth much before 15 minutes
feels way more punishing to not actively be in a lane either pushing/defending or fighting over urn

>>719976156
kills arent really worth much, what is worth much is the farm you are denying the person you kill by making them wait to respawn

>>719966703
It's good specifically if you're going to be fighting and running around the map and need to be full HP to avoid getting busted before you rotate again. Otherwise don't buy it.

>>719976234
I killed 15 people, who on that team is 'denied farm'? All it does is make you realize the only thing that matters in this game is farming minions! Wow! its so fun!

>>719976861
everyone who is dead you fucking retard

>>719977031
Hahaha both teams' highest kills player are fucking broke the game is a god dam joke and I'm good enough at it to say so, if you like afk farming in mobas, if that is LITERALLY your favorite part of a moba, this game is for you. For everyone else don't bother. Icefraud is a fucking faggot retard

>>719977147
you might actually be braindead

>>719977214
And still better at deadlock than you ever will be. Keep farming minions lil bro

>>719950116
the only character i managed to learn is paradox

>>719977253
ill be winning the game, sorry you have 10 kills and 10k less souls than me. ill carry you next time too little bro. :^)

>>719977380
and he still doesn't see the problem. Which is more fun having kills or farming minions?
The most boring path to victory in the game is to farm minions. Even if you get the kill all that you accomplished is making up the gold you missed out on by NOT farming a wave or camp. It never results in actual wealth.

/v/ are there any items you almost always buy even if currently they are not meta dominant because you believe they are being slept on?

For me it's:
-Healing Rite -> late Healing Nova. With no solo lanes, Rite is always useful, either for you or ally when its off cooldown. The in lategame you can pop Nova after or before teamfight and suddenly your team has advantage.
-Trophy Collector. Every game I hit the cap easily because it also counts assists and it's a way to ensure I never hit bottom with souls, everything else is a super nice bonus.
-Warp Stone. Just because it's a reliable mobility, good for chasing, good for escaping, unless enemies have their own blink, good to avoid pointless deaths and throwing which I've used to do before.

btw helped with meme related

>>719977838
pic is me after reddit got victor nerfed even more. now instead of a worse abrams hes just a non character

>>719977978
yea it was a combination of being laughably overtuned and brand new and spam picked but now everyone should 'get' him by this point, he's also extremely hard to tell if hes doing good or not though, I think people still expect that when he hits 40k+ souls he is going to be able to 1v6 but that isn't happening anymore. I also don't think anti heal did enough to him even when he was considered balanced. Basically every spirit user buys spirit burn and it still did nothing to stop his overtuned regen. I remember having spiritburn and healbane on Mina and I genuinely could not possibly kill him, it was mathematically impossible for my character to kill him and we had equal souls. People don't like that design.

>>719978371
you dont buy anti heal vs victor, you buy silence. once hes silenced you can just burst him down unless hes giga far ahead

>>719977978
idk why they bother with these nightmare to design kits, Shiv is being swung from bad to good every other patch and he's a year old. I wouldn't recommend getting attached to those type of characters.

>>719978483
I still haven't played him but interesting I will admit I did not know that. Silence never lasts long but I could see curse ruining his day for sure.

>>719978608
if you silence him, he cant use his stim (which is a huge heal later and a cleanse), his light shock (which is a 20% max hp heal if it hits later) or turn off his aura. also using spirit resist shred on him makes him kill himself faster because of his aura.

>>719977838
Fleetfoot on any hero that tends to chase.

>>719953996
>Dota has random crits
>Random creeps spawns
>High ground miss
>Random rune spawn
>The lane creeps spawn in random order and can block eachother.
>It is one of the most competitive games e er created

>>719977838
I like getting Surge of Power on characters with damage over time abilities. Added damage along with the speed boost puts some really good pressure on.

>>719980294
Except crits in TF2 usually one shot, unlike assfaggots games where average auto attack tickles so them doing crit is not as insane

game is fucking awesome and potentially a huge hit if they play their cards right
t. ~10 games played and enjoying abrams smash mode

>20 mins
You can get your ultimate and start roaming at like 5 minutes

>>719981023
Even that's a long time. There are literally shooters where 5 minutes is the entire length of a game. Hell if you're playing Splatoon it's 3 minutes.

>>719981768
The games aren't comparable for the way each plays and objective of them.
Splatoon has a 3 minute timer to do as much inking as possible. The other game modes could be over in 30 seconds or hit their timing caps if the players are in a constant state of changing ownership of the objective.
Deadlock is designed for the longer game and mobas in general need that to get the most out of those games.

>>719982445
The point is 5 minutes might be proportionately low to a full length of a deadlock game but it's still a long time to be stuck doing a part of the game you might find boring.

>>719977838
if I am getting creamed in lane I buy healing rite

>>719982716
It's one of the most active parts of the game. Juggling shooting your opponents, the troopers, the orbs, planning your build for the game based on your team/the opponents, judging if you should hit another lane or jungle, maintain pressure on the guardian for the early advantage or whatever else.
There might not be a team fight happening but it's a fucking lie to think the first few minutes are taking turns shooting orbs.

>>719950116
I enjoy paradox

Can you even carry in this game anymore? Everything is just broooooool right from the start to end.
Or is that the point? Lack of mechanical skill expression so retards think they are good at games and blame their teammates for everything?

I'm new but I like Pocket he looks pretty cool and his kit is versatile you can use his abilities in flexible ways.

>>719981768
>shooters
this isnt a shooter

>>719986089
They may as well remove shooting and make people auto attack at this point
That will save some time and trouble from people thinking this is a shooter and getting disappointed by yet another moba slop

>>719986226
who cares if retards get disappointed with the game because they have the attention span of a goldfish

Mad cuz bad

>>719986305
I thought moba fags hated the shooting part because someone would pick infernus and BTFO them in lane with their kovaaks skills

>>719950043 (OP)
Give it to me straight lads, is this as sweaty as it looks?

>>719986689
Yea

>>719950043 (OP)
how do i stop being a shitter as Doorman?

>>719986689
Not really, people exaggerate and most people aren't that sweaty. But it has this stupid forced 50/50 win rate, so sometimes you'll just get fucked without a chance.

invites doko

>Planned on playing Deadlock tonight
>spent the last 4 hours shitposting instead

welp, I guess i'll have to try again tomorrow. Fucking, fool I am.

>>719987956
> But it has this stupid forced 50/50 win rate, so sometimes you'll just get fucked without a chance.

Are you refering to matchmaking? or what

>>719988652
Yeah

>Try out Paige for the first time
>Finally understand why she is in almost every game
She is practically designed for lane rape.

>>719987956
Isn't the matchmaking notoriously very poorly implemented right now to the point where people near the highest rank will get put in low rank lobbies sometimes? How can you even say it has "forced 50/50" right now

>>719965978
doorman is a piss easy point and click burst hero, his doors are actually the weakest and least useful part of his kit.

>>719950116
I didn't play since the week 1 of "open" beta, but I really liked Dynamo and Warden. Frost guy was cool too.

>>719983596
>one of the hottest bitches in the game
>almost no porn.
Deadlock fanbase has no taste.

>>719950116
Hard to find any character to enjoy with Valves dogshit balancing that will suddenly murder your favorite hero and make them unplayable or turn them into something completely different than what you liked them for

>>719951565
I played three games recently after I stopped playing a year ago and I matched against (post-nerf) Drifter three times, once with Pocket who I find absolutely useless in and out of lane. That fucker can never die, I even bought 10 minute Healbane in two games. Drifter rolled all three matches and they were all stomps regardless.

>>719977838
cultist's sacrifice>trophy collector
>no ramp up, it's full power from the start
>leaves your boots to still get enduring speed/juggernaut when necessary
>also buffs your gun

Back after a year hiatus, what's the interaction of abrams charge vs debuff reducer? Still useless until remover?

>>719950043 (OP)
Deadlock is just smite with a better map and aesthetics.
And fucked up balance.

>>719990346
RIP Lich from Dota 2

>>719955242
>>719955440
I can never land the hook. Without the hook he can't do shit because his punch and bomb have no range. Without perfect teamplay and lucky hooks how are you supposed to play him?

>>719955763
I remember year ago when lot of builds omitted extra stamina item because its was basically useless because you could bunny hop, air strafe through whole map with just 3 stamina which wastes precious items slot. I wonder if things have changed.

>>719950116
I like characters with interesting movement so:
>Mina
>Paradox
>Holliday
>Viscous
>Lash

>>719991705
Just put in more time anon, it's that simple.

>>719965145
I copied a build like that recently and been liking it. It does have healing shot as its first buy but never builds it up later tho, is that fine or should I edit it?

>>719991857
>53% winrate
Wowzers
>Nothing to add but "uhh play more uhh git gud"
Good post Anon

>>719950043 (OP)
I think I played the beta? Just didn't gel with the gameplay, or the look of the game, none of the characters drew me in. Just meh.

>>719991760
I feel the opposite, a lot of builds used to have room for extra stamina because of the abundance of item slots. Now a lot of builds will forgo it or settle for Kinetic Dash/Arcane Surge instead.

When the other game modes come in (So far: Payload and CTF have files floating around), what heroes will you be playing for it?

>>719992134
Only after 5000 games you will have a decent WR with Bebop.

>>719991216
ive been buying it vs abrams and been able to successfully parry their gay charge combo

>>719991705
Well you could play suicide Bebop where you buy movement items like majestic leap. Then you attach bombs to yourself and run into the enemy team. All though Bebops bomb stacks got nerfed recently, so they're not that good anymore. Honestly, Bebop isn't that good currently, he's really shit. I like getting people with the hook though, so I continue to play him.

>>719991760
a lot of heroes got nerfed to 2 stamina bars to force you to invest in stamina.

I still love most of these pre-match voice lines and the implications. Like this one with Seven and Dynamo:
https://youtu.be/S0k5qor7dic?t=226

THE FEMALE PATRON IS VOICED BY DEBRA WILSON AAAAAAAAAA

>>719984732
In games like these you either try to snowball which is hard because comeback mechanics are strong in this game, or you just split push aggressively to force game pace to be on your side.

>>719993093
literally who

>>719993093
You can't escape her

I still can't get over how good Seven is personality wise. Somehow, they made the edgelord character work through not making him kill for the sake of killing, it is always towards a greater goal and he respects people that have very high aspirations like him.

>>719993093
long as I don't have to see her uncanny facescanned bulging eyes I don't care if debra wilson is in a game or not

What are some hero ideas you can see fitting into the game?
>Hypnotist agent from the UK who desires to bring the Empire back to its' former glory.
I already imagined an interaction between him and Haze:
>The OSIC has been keeping a close eye on your division
>And we at the Ministry of Paranormal Investigations 7 have done the same to your Sandman Division
>We would know if we had double agents on the inside.
>Indeed. They haven't been activated yet.

>can't aim
>always towards the bottom in souls in laning phase and after
I fucking suck at this game

Victor's really fun, love his design and voice and personality too. Kinda feels like he's weak in the start but by the end with upgrades and healthsteal and shit he's a straight up menace in team fights by endgame. But wouldn't a character who scales like that be really shit in these games?

>>719995532
Depends on the team comp. If you got a team that can stall or force enemies to defend via ratting, Victor hits his power spike pretty consistently, especially with his farming speed.

>Silksong is too hard for /v/
>Deadlock is too hard for /v/
Maybe you're just bad at modern videogames

>>719995846
>retards spamming /v/ are shit at video games
this should not be news.

>>719995604
I see, like his gun is good at sniping minions in chokes? So it's actually pretty nuanced. The big shift came when my dead on cooldown lane partner swapped with the flubber guy who was crazy good.

>>719996215
It is a pretty decent gun, but combine his self heal and his AoE attack and you can clear jungle camps pretty reliably. During the downtime between lanes, bounce between the camps and you will find you can hit your key items earlier.

i always end up with low net worth and don't want to memorize box routes. should i just stop playing

>>719991990
Restorative Shit is a laning item, it's fine to discard it when it's no longer useful
Extra Regen is better unless you're very reliably hitting the enemy hero on cooldown though

>>719997637
I'm unironically starting to like her

>>719998643
This man is compromised, put him in quarantine!

>>719993093
She is a good VA she’s just ugly as sin so people started to resent whenever AAA studios lazily face scanned her in

Just started this game but have no idea what items do and it's not fun to just buy whatever when everyone else knows what to buy, how the fuck am I supposed to know what to build?

>>719996608
you don't have to memorize shit, they're fucking EVERYWHERE.

Fun fact: Deadlock has no black male characters, only black women
Infernus isn't an African, he is an Ixian ayy lmao spirit of fire who just happens to be Ash colored

>>719998643
I know she's bafflingly ugly and it is annoying to see her everywhere but I really don't think someone would show up in this many video games unless they have some passion for gaming as a whole. For that I find her a bit endearing, even if I'm also sick of seeing her.

>>719995362
Aiming is not as important as the ability to pressure the opponent, positioning, and timings

>>719998643
Her voice is fine

Why the roster stuff? Why can't I just choose 1 character to queue with?

>>720000525
they wanted matchmaking to go faster during a period of having a small playtest and it just stuck.
they likely don't really care about matchmaking quality at all right now.

>>720000525
they want people to try out multiple characters for testing and they may not have settled on a draft system yet

How the fuck do I build Billy? He starts great but by the end of the matches his damage is shit

>>719999640
use the in game build browser, pick one, and set it to Queue Build or whatever so that way it'll autobuy everything when you stand inside the shop radius

>>719999640
It helps to know which heroes you're playing. Identify what your hero's role is and what you want them to do, then build from there. If you want to focus on just learning the game, pick heroes with very obvious itemization, clear roles, and simple mechanics like:
>Abrams
>Haze
>Kelvin
>Mo and Krill

>>720000952
That makes sense, I just want to play the game so it's easy to forget I'm technically like an alpha tester right now. Side not but it's funny as fuck that I can be so shit at this game yet run into the enemy base and blast the patron to death while everyone is fighting in a different lane.

>>719955418
>know when to quit and take the L
this zoomertard definitely started post-2016

>>719956390
>who can't let go.
just revert casual, gabe. It's not hard, gabe. Just fix the mess you started and we can all move on, gape.

>>719969019
>fighting Abrams
>he swings into a wall completely 180 from me
>take 300 damage
>run behind bridge pillar
>he swings into open air
>die
I just assume Valve is doing the same thing they did with L4D2 where the swing just spawns a hurtbox in front of you

>>719950043 (OP)
This game kinda sucks...I mean there's good ideas but really it tried to reinvent a familiar format in a different space, which should be praised, but it just doesn't feel good to play.

Mina owes me sex

>>720003567
check your ping Ivan

>>719950043 (OP)
>i'm going to play every character i haven't played before!
>get shit stomped in, pocket style
>get shit stomped in, vyper style
>get shit stomped in, mina style
>ONE CALICO WIN BAYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>719976848
actually its dogshit and if you buy it I know you will be sub 20k damage at the end screen

>>719987917
Shitter doorman? You have a 60% win rate

i'm too nervous to queue up in this game

>>719977838
I always buy stamina mastery if I can

>>720006927
Yeah, I end up only playing with friends. But I bet I would be a far better player if I was playing solo at all

>>719950043 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkGDC3idX1E
Groovy. I've no interest in the game but it's nice to see it gain personality.

>>720006927
just jump in

>>720007165
You know deadlock's equivalent of the tf2 comics is going to be something fantastic. Can't wait.

>>720007356
how do i play lash and not get flamed?

>>720006849
Isn’t that bad?

>>720006927
The only way to solve that is by queuing up

>>720007482
Considering The Doorman has a winrate of 46.89% and you have a winrate of 60.41% you're doing at least 13.52% better than average. I'd say that's notably good for a game trying to make you lose half of the time.

>>720007679
Thanks Anon, I just wish I knew how to do more objective damage as him, his kit feels more suited to dunking on players and killing mobs than damaging walkers or hurting the patron

>>720007394
Aren't they just straight-up making VNs for the characters?

>>719987917
>48 games played
>8 denies

deny more, denies add up a lot in laning phase, it's basically halving the souls they gain per minion and giving you an extra 50%

>>720007679
consider; winrate (should be) inverse to pick-rate and twinkman is one of the higher pickrates currently. People also keep trying to play epic combo caster in lane when he's better off just spamming bells in your face

>>720008063
They also made a "meet the X" style video for McGinnis. Neither the VN nor the McGinnis video were supposed to be seen, so I'm not sure they have actually figured out what they want to do yet.

>>720008497
>try to do trolley into portal meme
>super difficult and even then sometimes portal placement bugs out
>lose game after game
>start whipping a comically large bell at peoples faces
>win 4 games in a row
DING-DING
Atleast I learned you can get enemy players stuck in your spawn

>>720008917
The Doorman's entire kit is designed to obscure the fact that you're playing Lady Geist but her bombs deal damage twice

>>720008887
Meet the Team-esque videos would be more marketable than some VN slideshows stuff desu.

>>720009234
True, but it took Valve ages to finish the Meet The Team videos, and there were only nine classes in that game. How many playable characters are in Deadlock?

>>720008390
When can you deny? It feels like sometimes I shoot it and it isn’t poppable right away, other times I can do it as soon as it spawns

>>720009438
There's a soul orb spawner in the hideout you can practice on. There's a static delay, and denies are inherently at a disadvantage vs the last hit.

>>719995846
>you are on /v/
glad you admit you're shit

Movement is the real filter in this game.
Some of the rollouts people do already are absurd.

>>720009801
True. If you want a skill check, play Vyper and try to make the most of the slide passive. Most will be humbled

>>720009438
Aggressively clear the wave and melee enemy troops when you can. That puts pressure on the enemy's guardian and makes it so you can fully focus on harassing and denying.

>>719950043 (OP)
Shut your FUCKING MOUTH and show some RESPECT for the game SAVING the industry at the moment

>>720009801
Lash players are on crack some matches.

>>720006927
Same. I just play co-op bot games and farm commends on a new account. I imagine playing real matches is akin to pulling out your teeth with all the newfags running around feeding as Mina.

>>720006927
This is an issue for me, both in Deadlock and Dota 2. I love both games but I just can't stomack matches that last more than half an hour.

>>720009295
>How many playable characters are in Deadlock?

Currently, 32. Based on leaks and speculation, they may add 8 more and launch with 40 heroes in open beta in about a year.

Also, they don't need to do videos for every hero, just a handful of the most popular ones. Ivy is pretty much guaranteed, although I don't know why McGinnis is getting one, probably because she is [sort of] newbie friendly with the turrets doing the work for you.

>>720011301
that was an animation test, because she's one of the two models with a finished face rig

Feels good finding a team that follows up on Dynamo singularities.

>you have to buy an item for your gun to get random crits
just enable them for every gun, it would go such a long way for making this game not feel like a spreadsheet

>>720013182
>images that are better than anything in deadlock

Victor-chads, how we holding up?
I've still got some really good use out of him, but I no longer can just go full ape mode and run at enemies willy nilly.

>>720013335
How does Victor play? I just see him die constantly in my matches

>>720015296
He feels fine, farms extremely quickly and built right can be a regen machine. The balance is trying to do damage without killing yourself. I worked out that like 50% of damage taken is just from my 3.

Can you still oneshot niggas with the HEYA HOYA bird
This is important

>>720016010
Depends on how many retards are on the enemy team

>>720013293
ok but do games with something better than gwen exist?

I don't understand how you fucking farm in this game I am ALWAYS last on my team every god damn game and it's infuriating.
I feel like nothing from my previous MOBA experience transfers to this game at all.

i'm trying to like the game but like
>in a shooting game I know for sure that I can kill X class with 1 bodyshot and 10 bullets of my secondary
>in a Moba... uh... well I'm level 14 and I have X Y and Z items and my opponent is level 12 and he has A B C items which mitigate my bullet damage, but i have spirit build so going by the damage multiplier on my 2 skill which I have at level 3, I should be able to...
this is so dumb. in one game i'm melting a guy and in another all of my abilities in a row do nothing. same animations, little feedback, i'm just meant to memorize 200 different shop items and constantly check their build to intuit anything. it just feels so RANDOM. i hate 'rpg elements'.

>>720016268
Clear the wave
take their jungle if it's safe
take your jungle if it's not
hit the boxes on the way
make it back in time for the next wave
repeat

At what point do I sell active reload as Ivy?

>>720016601
If you're ACTUALLY playing g*n Ivy, then you sell your reload thing when you've got vampiric burst which gives you free ammo

>>719950043 (OP)
The guy who designed Mina should get a raise. The Neon Prime stragglers like Grey Talon and Calico are such pure shit. Can we expect more based designs like her and Drifter moving forward?

>valve game in current year when they fired most of their artists back in ~2013 and make more than fuck you money from steam
but why?

>>720017864
Valve needs some anchor games so that people have a reason to be on Steam.

>>720017864
It's a passion project from Icefrog.
He wanted to make a new game, and Valve is bankrolling it.

>>720017864
Have you thought that they just like making games
Just a guess though

>>720017864
Icefraud needed something to justify his paycheck so he made DOTA with guns

>Holiday does 5 jillion damage for just landing on you
>not even telegraphed like Lash
and this is balanced...how?

>>720016601
After you’ve picked up Vampiric Burst or Eclipse Rounds and you’re not starved for reload uptime anymore. Active Reload is great early to smooth out your DPS curve, but holding onto it late just for a QoL boost is cope when you should be slotting real damage or sustain. Only keep it if you're doing some meme-permafire Ivy thing, otherwise ditch it around midgame when you've got better ways to keep the shots flying.

Can I see your controller layout

>>719950116
I only play McGinnis because nobody else ever plays Miku Guinness. I regret nothing
Also I hate this game. Time to load it up

>>720018782
You can play this game on controller?

Valve fell into the MOBA trap of game design, where every match will now be
>enter lane
>other lane has irreversibly lost their lane before you have 2 items
>DARPA could not concoct a plan to salvage this game with a 50 million dollar budget
>lose
>receive exactly as much blame as retard who failed as hard as humanly possible (both from other players and the ingame ranking system)
>pull slot machine lever again
With, of course, the only solution being a giga-stinky NEET who does flowchart builds with a small handful of snowball carries every game
It's not a video game, it's an enslavement tool

>>720018782
I cannot imagine playing this game on a controller. As for KB+M layout it's mostly default, I've bound shop to `, moved melee to mouse 5, bound an ability to mouse 4 (this is on a per hero basis), and parry on F (I don't remember if it's the default). Q, E, 1 and V are my items. Double tap for self-cast, except for Bebop because it makes the bomb wonky.

Can you play with shit aim?

>>720019149
Yes. You just go spirit instead of gun, or support. Some heroes are centered around gun so avoid those.

>>720019149
Relatively. Depends on the character, and how you build them.
Mo & Krill, Infernus (mostly), dynamo, are all pretty good examples of spirit characters.

>10 seconds to kill anything
>70 second long respawns

>whoever wins the first half of the match has a 90% chance of steamrolling through

I genuinely do not get the appeal of mobas

>people say Deadlock is high IQ giga skill game
>they make 2 "undga bunga go in and stat check them" champs Victor and Drifter
so that was a lie

>>720019840
Victor no longer does that after the nerfing he got recently...

>>720019840
Stat checking is the simplest form of "Do you understand the game and how to counter shit?".
Even then, Drifter's "stat check" is if you are alone and Victor's "stat check" is if you have silences so he kills himself.

>>720020050
Your "stat check" is not having Gabe's cock perpetually down your throat

>>720020050
kinda wish the game was just about outplaying people rather than pulling up spreadsheets and staring at numbers to know which AntiCounterSilence to get for their DebuffSummonShred but that's just me.

>>720020471
sounds like the game you wanted was Battleborn

>>720019149
Yeah there are a lot of heroes that rely on their abilities and have guns that are easy to hit:
>Abrams
>Pocket
>Shiv
>Victor
>Viscous
>Warden
>Yamato

>>720020569
more like i want these character designs in a BlazBlue. didn't even know Battleborne was a moba. thought it was a hero shooter or something.

>>720020471
It's the sweat genre for people who have zero skill or mechanics, just dozens of different levels of game to memorize.

>>720020471
>>720020676
You generally can still outplay people in this game. The movement mechanics alongside guns can make certain heroes just useless. Victor for example can be easily outmaneuvered and picked off without stepping into his aids circle.

>>719955242
Just say you have dogshit aim next time unc

they should disable viper, this character does not function.
it's just a guaranteed loss if you have one on your team.

I've been trying to make holliday gun work but it just isn't as good and easy to play as spirit

This game looks interesting I like rooty tooty shooty and I liked dota, but doing both at the same time seems like too much going on. I was told I can either build abilities or boomer shooting, that I don't have to do both. Is that true? I'm old and I just don't have it in me to autism out like in dota.

These Valve games have been so bad that I'm beginning to think TF2 was an accident.

>>720021268
So was Left 4 Dead if Back 4 Blood was anything to go off of.

>>720021223
Most heroes are squarely one or the other, or can build both. Most of my heroes are "spirit" (Basically magical based) and I've gotten away with it fine enough. Just know that "gun" heroes are a bit behind right now but there are a few that still have fun like Haze. I'll link her wiki page to give you an idea:
https://deadlock.wiki/Haze

I have a couple HUGE issues with the game.

6v6 with 3 lanes of 2v2 makes the game super fucking boring overall. People just stay in their lanes with no reason to gank or anything for fucking forever.

The fact that its strictly a shooter is hugely limiting on gameplay overall. Would function a lot better if it was a mix of range and melee heroes.

The base is just WAYYY too easy to overwhelm once your team gets in, unless your team just straight up gets wiped from some wombo combo ult your team is going to win, I've played for about 60ish hours and I've yet to see a real comeback game.

>>720021583
>6v6 with 3 lanes of 2v2 makes the game super fucking boring overall. People just stay in their lanes with no reason to gank or anything for fucking forever.
There is a reason for this: back when it was 4 lanes with 2 2v2 lanes and 2 1v1 lanes, the ones in the 2v2 lanes would gank a lot early into the solo lanes and that caused a shitload of issues regarding balancing the sharing of souls and double dipping. Keep in mind, this was MONTHS of back and forth balancing trying to make it work, but it never did.

>>720021583
the reason u haven't seen comebacks is cause ur still playing the babby ranks anon, when you get into higher rank games, most players have figured out all the base defense routes. Lots of new players don't explore the base much, and the never realize it's full of alternate paths for ganking attackers and sneaking up on the backline carries

>>720021268
They spent nine years reiterating TF2 multiple times and then polishing the final version to absolute perfection. Valve doesn't have that work ethic anymore unless it's hardware-related.

Paige's dragon attack is complete dogshit. Last night, one cast had the dragon fly backwards towards me and other times it fucks off to the right or left. Why can't it just fucking go in a straight line like Macropyre? And it should go through walls instead of trying to navigate the map geography, like the ult does.

>>720021635
they should just do 5v5 like dota. solved.

>>720021223
>but doing both at the same time seems like too much going on.
After a few hundred hours of Deadlock I felt the same, shooters and MOBAs don't complement each other at all

>>720021223
you can build either but making your shots with the gun is required no matter what

>>720021223
If you aren't a sweaty zoomer on amphetamines then you will end up getting destroyed

>>720021694
it bounces off geometry, you probably hit a wall just before it hit the ground so it turned it 180 degrees from you.
they probably think this requires more SKILL to handle or something.

>>720023369
I just want Icefraud to port Jakiro 1:1 in Deadlock. Is that so much to ask?

Watching "pros" on Youtube, there's so much fucking movement tech that these guys are doing 24/7. They pinball off walls nonstop.

>>719950116
the uninstall wizard

Patiently awaiting for Ability Draft to come out so that I can do Victor with Geist's ult.

>>720023458
Yes

Why does Sinclair only get like 10 seconds to cast a copied ult?

this game would be significantly more fun if it just leaned into being a hero shooter the MOBA elements fucking suck because they are MOBA elements
>spend 15mins poking enemy player and gathering souls
>brainlessly buy top tier build someone else made for you because it's meta
>spend 10 more minutes poking enemies
>if you are actually good the game is boring as fuck
>lose anyway because your teammates are incompetent and there is literally nothing you can do
>free to play but cost you 50 minutes of your life
a shame because I do like the characters and the movement tech is cool

>>719953996
>have to pad out the soi because the chad reason is too long
Random crits are fun you double nigger.

Ivy's pubes

>>720018782
Pic related, with the exception of a few hero specific ones (I sometimes bind abilities to F5). Melee is M4, parry is M5, and item 4 is F.

>>720021669
deadlock has also been in development for 8 years at this point, it's just that you don't like it

>>720023523
There are only a handful of things players need to know to move well:
>memorize where the teleporters and fans that launch you into the air are
>maintain zipline speed by crouching to dismount
>hold down crouch when mantling to get a small speed boost and slide
>slide after dashing or when moving down slopes
>prefer wall jumping and/or heavy punching to climb walls vertically instead of double jumping

Moving across the map boils down to:
>use the nearest zipline, fan, or teleporter
>use air dashing, double jumping, strafing, and wall jumping to maintain speed from zip lines and fans
>when you get close to the ground or are near a slope, start sliding
>you can dash jump if you're on the ground, have no zipline/fan nearby and need to get away immediately

The actual movement is not that complicated, the hard part is memorizing the map. The map is mostly symmetrical, so you only need to remember half of it.

>>720011128
>>720006927
Nervous how? that like... something bad will happen?

>>720017864
>they fired most of their artists back in ~2013
why desu?

>>719953946
>>719954401
>>719954913
>>719955010
>>719955816
>>719955870
I will tell you the objective and correct opinion on crits that nobody ever talks about.
If you want random crits then make respawn time no more than 6 seconds. If you don't want them then respawn can be up to 20-22 like default tf2. That is the mistake Valve made.
The logic is extremely simple, if I'm going to be randomly oneshot because the game is casual and silly I should not be punished by forcibly being taken out of the game for long amounts of time. I would never complain about crits on a server with a 3 second respawn

>>720026156
Nobody ever talks about.your opinion because it is not correct, it is simply your impatient gripe.
>punished
yikes

>>720026309
Stop pretending please.
Tf2 fans really are the most drama queen old fags on /v/, holy shit. I guess I can't blame them, with the way Valve treated them.

>>720024569
Wouldn't it make more sense for her pubes to be moss or lichen?

>>720026520
I cannot recall any serious tf2 fan that was in any way bothered by crits back in 07-08. It's part of the charm.

Anyone else just throw the match as soon as someone starts back seat gaming them? I just put on some tunes start hunting for straggerlers in the jungle while ignoring the chat for the remainder of the match.

>>720026732
I'm not bothered by crits, I am bothered about having to be punished with an instant 20 second respawn due to RNG. It's only logical that this is unfair in a casual game. Long respawn times make sense in a competitive game, not tf2.
There's a reason why most custom servers had fast respawn.

>>719950043 (OP)
Be careful OP there are a lot of homosexual valve fanboys that will literally eat shit straight out of a straw. They don't like when you criticize their golden turd.

>>720026835
Those are your personal preconceptions about fairness. Your logic ain't logic of others.
Actual casual players simply pick up a gun and take things in stride.
>most
I never counted, but even if it was as you say, it really isn't an issue unless one makes it into an issue.

when are deathmatch and community servers coming

>>720026156
If you don't want to die then don't get fucking hit. Anything that one hit crits you in TF2 is either really easily avoidable by positioning OR a sniper.

>>720027027
>Deathmatch
Would suck for certain characters, but I would still play it.
>community servers
Probably for when the actual release of the game happens.

>>720024710
>deadlock has also been in development for 8 years at this point
wtf were they doing?

>>720027124
It was originally a Half Life game where you could also control Ant-lions, then it turned into Neon Prime which looked like it had a lot of art assets made for it, then they switched it up to the cursed Apple and what we currently know as Deadlocked.
Keep in mind the same thing happened with TF2 with radical shifts in what the game was going to be.

How do I stop feeding with Abrams

>>720027219
Press F.

>>720027027
Community servers are goneski
No fucking chance.

>>720026989
>>720027057
>just ignore the bad game design
>just don't get hit
This is not logic or a fair argument. You essentially said you don't care. This is not how an argument is made
>a nigger raped my ass. My fault for not running fast enough, I should have taken things in stride
Imagine a dev telling the players "just take it in stride bro". Lmao did you even think before posting? Are TF2 players' brains just calcified by this point in time?

>>719954594
>posting it again award

I still don't understand the balloon popping argument in current deadlock, you still get souls even if the creeps kill each other, meaning you want to pressure the enemy lane hard so they fuck off out of range, which is a lot of fighting.
What's not encouraged is running in and doing nothing but brawl, because you won't have enough sustain to survive.

>>719956703
Shut your whore mouth about fucking artishart

>>719990239
Valve, pls fix

Honestly sometimes it feels like they don't even get humans to whine about Valve at this point.
How at this point could it be surprising or something for you to cry about that this game is a s/mnc derivative with more tradtional DOTA style heroes? It's been like over a year now, hasn't it?

Flopping tranny deadcock.

I love Paradox's movement and character design but her playstyle is so fucking weird. I don't get how you're supposed to play her.

>>720028994
Ranged assassins

>>719964604
You're essentially arguing that the role of support is completely useless. Fun fact, DPS can't win if they don't have support.