Thread 719958647

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LOL I'M STUCK IN THE SAME BOSS I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE A THREAD I MEAN LOOK AT THIS SHIT

Apologize.

>>719958647 (OP)
>Lost 500+ rosaries because I died to the fucking ant faggot on my way to the savage beastfly

>>719958647 (OP)
He has a really fucking annoying habit of charging in the middle of the room, where your only chance of avoiding damage is a jumping downward attack to bounce over. And I swear his animation is fucked because sometimes he's positioned for a low charge you can jump, but he unnaturally shifts to the middle height in a split second.

>>719958647 (OP)
>>719958852
>>719959501
>sometimes he's positioned for a low charge you can jump, but he unnaturally shifts to the middle height in a split second.
he tracks you on that move quite a bit like an elden ring boss so wait before jumping otherwise he WILL adjust and can leave you in a place where you cant really dodge
here's the movelist
>he flies to the ground
jump over
>he flies above you
jump+hit
>he flies low
dash under him (if you have it, i dont remember if you need the dash to get to this room)
>he ground pounds
move to the side and hit
>on his way back up from the ground pound
jump+ hit up
>when he summons adds
try to make it so that he ground pounds the adds so you can focus on him but otherwise do your best to clear them, use your knives if its not safe to move around
you can do it

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>>719959501
>where your only chance of avoiding damage is a jumping downward attack to bounce over
I hate to be that guy, but do people not understand that this is exactly what you're supposed to do? The boss that is hard countered by pogoing off of him is at the end of the area where you do nothing but pogo off of those red flowers.

The only truly annoying aspect of Savage Niggerfaggot is that he'll often look like he's hit his own summons, only for that not to be the case.

>>719958852
>Using the spear and not the silk storm
You asked for this

>>719959751
YOU CAN GET HERE WAY BEFORE YOU GET ANY OF THAT SHIT THAT HELPS

>>719959751
what the fuck is a silkstorm, I only have the spear

>>719959819
OP is a faggot, it's an area you will likely not have visited by the point you kill the big fly

>>719958647 (OP)
Patience and being deliberate is key here. If you are jumping too early he can do a tracking and fly toward you making it hard to jump over. Chill on the ground till he does his fly at you at ground level, then jump over him. His next one will probably be fly at jump height. Stand next to him on his down smashes, and tap him once. Those are the easiest to get dmg off of.

The more you jump around chasing him the worse its gonna be.

Throw a bunch of traps at flying niggas.

It took me a bunch of tries yeah but I did get better

>>719959797
It's a good thing you're not stuck there and you can decide "wow, this guy is fucking wrecking me, maybe I'll come back later when I have more upgrades."

>>719958647 (OP)
Walk away; there isn't actually a reward for beating him. Come back with the nail upgrade and extra tool damage if you have to.

>>719960214
If you wait for the nail upgrade before beating him, every NPC you like will die, you are bishmade, they will spawn more NPCs you like just to kill them off, and you didnt beat the game.

>>719958647 (OP)
He’s got two moves. You are getting filtered by two moves.

>>719960184
Only casuals do that. Instead I will whine on the steam forums and leave a bad review.

>>719960338
You are so fucking dishonest its insane.

>>719960338
>two moves
>one fag that zones the floor
>one that zones the air separately from the already fat boss
>one that takes 6+ hits to kill and does a very annoying AOE that you cannot hit him during because you just parry it

>>719961327
>Hornet in that pic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8wxsUv_2vg

>>719961469
It's insane how much worse the beast crest is compared to the others. Like wtf were they thinking.
Its funny because its biggest thing is how impossible it makes platforming. You don't realize just how shit it is until you go out of combat and have to bounce up bulbs or balloons.

>>719959050
Have you tried not walking around with 500 beads in your cacoon like a fucking retard

>>719962392
The alternative is spending 25% of your beads to string them which is even more retarded

>>719959501
He doesnt unnaturally do that, he does it if you jump early in anticipation. He's reading you and adjusting. Next you'll say that he "unnaturally" stops in the middle of the room and turns around if you jump over him. He's smart and you're bad

>>719959651
The only ads that are really dangerous are the razorfags and the minimes
The spikefag are basically free silk
You should try to get him to kill them, but also take the time to farm them for health if you can

>>719962483

Those 25% are the price you pay for permanently having the remaining 75% beads. which is acceptable compared to the risk of losing 100% of your beads because you'll never know what's behind the next corner. Greedy have a shitty end.

>>719961327
Desu it's your fault for allowing yourself to end up in that position. The ONLY times this fight is bullshit is when he groundpounds and the ads are slightly too high up to have been killed, but that's basically it. The rest is fair and you're bad.

>>719962483
Yeah, that's the alternative
Instead you chose to lose all of them like a fucking moron lmao and then you blamed the devs for your stupidity

>>719958647 (OP)
I dunno this one was pretty straightforward, he just lets you whack him constantly so you're always full of silk even if you do happen to get hit

>>719958647 (OP)
Actually the only boss so far that made me rage a little bit but I beat him the earliest possible time as well. I mastered the controls and now I'm kinda breezing

>>719962751
the adds are just there to give you stuff to heal off of aren't they? they're helpful but it doesn't really matter if he kills them or not

>>719960184
You don't understand the allure of,
"What if this guy is guarding a good upgrade?"

>>719958647 (OP)
STFU anon, don't yell at me

>>719963042
and as it turns out, nope, he's not

I’m 20 hours in and this is the only boss I struggled. Dealing with the adds is so luck based

>>719963076
Don't remind me

silkchuds??? explain?

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>>719958852 here
I'm will beat this nigger before the thread dies or my name isn't Anonymous
screenshot this

>>719958647 (OP)
>>719958852
Use your abilities and tools or come back when you get better shit.
It took me like 15 tries and the run back is pure aids, but it isn't that hard.

Your long range poke does much more damage.

apologize

>>719958647 (OP)
Worst designed boss I ever challenged.

>>719960184
Female mindset.

>>719958647 (OP)
You don't even need to fight it to progress.

>>719963853
Who's that yenta?

>>719958647 (OP)
It spammed divebombs to me, although the diagonal fly to follow another divebomb was a bitch move, it was pretty easy especially with boomerangs. I also figured out if you get hit during its roar at the beginning you are free to move and hit

>>719961469
only pro of the beast crest is that hornet goes rawr, everything else sucks lol

>>719966589
I want to like it but I just can't

>>719963853
I FUCKING TOLD YOU NIGGERS
FUCK THIS BOSS

Id like to upload my fight, but I'm a webm/mp4-let and dont know how to do anything
I recorded the clip in steam and when I try to export it, it's like 4m long and over 100mb lol. Went in with hunter and it took me a couple hours, but I eventually mastered the diagonal pogo to shred him. There were two times when I should've died and have no idea how I survived, and a couple of plays that were really sick, made me look like a pro instead of just lucky

>>719968406
Good job anon!

>>719968406
bravo man

>>719958647 (OP)
>enter boss room
>nice and simple, wonder what new moves the boss is gonna get as I whittle him down
>he starts summoning adds
>at half hp the adds stop and it becomes a duo bossfight

>>719968515
>>719968607
thank you bros
holy shit I just spent two hours banging my head against a wall
the moment I managed to put a spear through the boss and two flies at the same time I knew it was over
I may not be good, but I am persistent;
the videogame version of retard strength

>>719969194
Based
I'm the exact same way my bröther
When I come up against a hard boss, I get very very stubborn. I try to learn, but I almost never change my approach. If something isnt working, I don't go and power up or alter my build, I want what I went in with first to work, so I'll not stop until I beat it no matter how suboptimal my strats and build are. This is worst when I'm playing fromsoft games because I prioritize roleplay over actual good weapons and stuff. In SS it meant spending 3h on savage faggot learning how to pogo diagonally instead of giving up and looking for the Knight moveset or getting another mask or whatever

>>719970680
lmao yeah
looking back with a cooler head, fighting that thing with no upgrade was really dumb and I could've just went somewhere else first
the reward was so ass

>>719958647 (OP)
Dude, just dodge. That thing is very very slow.

In a post Silksong world, can we finally admit that this game was trash?
>too easy
>knight is a boring protagonist
>bland combat system
>resource management is incredibly simplistic
>the most basic movement upgrades a metroidvania could have
Looking back at it after playing Silksong I can't see how anyone could enjoy this game.

Beat Widow after 4 attempts, honestly a pretty fun fight probably one of my favourites so far. Just got to last judge and the runback is insane...

>>719971885
It's more elegant in its design. Also much more about exploration. I do prefer Silksong for its superior gameplay though.

Cant wait for the boss rush update

>>719959845
I don't think you know what OP means.

>>719969194
>the videogame version of retard strength
based same here

>>719962483
Oompa Loompa do-ba-dee-da,
If you're not greedy you will go far.

>>719968435
>Id like to upload my fight, but I'm a webm/mp4-let and dont know how to do anything
Setup mpv and download the webm script for it. Makes setting up webms for 4chan super fast and easy.

>>719971885
literally everything about hollowknight was better except hornet has a better moveset

it makes me very happy seeing how hard this game is filtering /v/

Anybody know if I can fix this bench?
I refuse to believe they let you spent 60 rosaries on a broken bench.

>see obvious hole I can get to later
>get upgrade
>go back to hole I can get to
>repeat
this is boring. The gameplay is fun, but the constant backtracking is just so fucking tedious and boring.

>>719974815
Go top left in that room.

>>719971885
boss fights in this game were shit and the combat was ass. i have no clue why they went and added boss rush shit

Reminder that this game was playtested by a total of 8 people for 7 years
The game is literally tuned for people who basically have its entirety in their muscle memory already

>>719958647 (OP)
tfw I cant even get through the arena in hunters march. how come I dont have the map girl helping me? my friend said she helped him ;_;

>Hollowkeks are dogshit at a game they've supposedly been playing for a decade straight
hmmm

Beat him on my fourth try, git gud

>>719975086
>playing for a decade straight
Yeah Hollow Knight is the only game ever

>>719974587
I have mpv and have the webm script, but I cant get it to work. It just kept giving me errors every time I tried, idk what I'm doing wrong. I'm pretty tech illiterate so Idk if it's any of the settings or whatever that I'm choosing or if I'm missing something

>>719969194
kek same. I spent longer on this boss than anything else.

>>719974993
I also realized this. Things are super annoying to the wider player base because we didn't play the game for 7 years and felt like we needed to up the ante at every turn

>>719974993
Better get to practicing then fucko

why are people treating the metroidvania like a soulslike, just go somewhere else lmao.

>>719958852
I beat it yesterday with shit tools and Hunter crest because I didn't have anythign else, after God knows how many tries.

The trick is to stand near the wall, so it always crashes into it. That made it doable.

EIther do that, or skip the boss until endgame since it only gives the Hunter crest, which is unusable dogshit.

>>719959819
It's the attack she kept using in the first game's fights where she shoots a bunch of thread around her.
>>719958647 (OP)
Just use boomerangs and let him kill his own dudes. EZPZ

>>719975620
I don't know how other people are, but when I find a hard enemy I don't go anywhere else till I beat it, otherwise I feel like a loser

>>719975783
you might be insecure

>>719961327
I'm pretty sure the dash gives you a little bit of I frames, so you could likely squeeze past the left one

>>719975620
sometimes you cant go elsewhere because the boss is guarding an upgrade

>>719958647 (OP)
Man, it felt great killing that flying piece of shit.

>>719961327
>yup
>that's me
>you're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation

>>719975783
Same
Leaving is defeat

Stop playing the game and post hornet upskirts

>>719958647 (OP)
unironically waste of time, the crest you get for this is ass

>>719976220
What crest do you get?

>>719976124
this but a rosary stock instead https://litter.catbox.moe/3a2sak.png
>>719976342
beast crest it removes your heal and gives you lifesteal but the attacks are weird and pogo is terrible

>>719976342
beast crest. The bind isn't a normal heal, but a rage mode where you heal based off damage you do. Theoretically you could heal more for the same amount of spool, so it would be better with more masks, as long as you play very aggressive, but the down slash is a basically horizonal lunge, which makes platforming impossible. Also limited charms on it. Most people think it's shit. I tend to agree. But it's probably fine if you get used to it and play very very agressive

>>719958647 (OP)
>the crest he gatekeeps is absolutely dogshit
Beast feels like it is supposed to be hyper aggressive playstyle, but hunter and wanderer do it way better. I've said it in another thread, but there is no reason the lifesteal bind should cost as much silk as the regular one.

Just wait until you guys fight the one that breaks the floor over lava.

You guys are alright, don't come to Pharloom tomorrow.

>>719977121
you mean the one you fight after acquring the glide? how the fuck are people falling into lava? you just jump and press A again

>>719974587
Cute renchon
Mind if I save?

>>719977390
No, but there's a wish to beat another savage beatfly in that same spot and it can destroy every single floor tile if it does the three downward slams twice in a row.

>>719958647 (OP)
It really wasn't that hard. He kills his own adds.

Sex with Hornet

>Fought beastfly and moorwing before I found any tools or crests
I feel like I missed an important area because the first tool I found was the triple throwing knives in the bird area

I beat him on my 5th try with wanderer crest

>>719962243
>its biggest thing is how impossible it makes platforming
auto targeting would fix that issue, but I guess we don't want to make the game too easy

>>719977390
wow I wonder why almost like you didn't fucking his post at all

It really isn't that hard, got him on my second attempt. Just wait for his evil brother, only boss I straight up consider unfair bullshit in this game and HK

Trying to find all the fleas, noticed one is below the Underworks. Found this, but there's seemingly no way to progress past this. How do I get to the other side?

>>719971885
Hollow knight 810
Silksong 5/10

What the actual fuck were they thinking with that arena in High Halls. It's literally 10x as bad as the Colosseum of Fools.

>>719958647 (OP)
Could be worse
Could be on lava with destructive platforms

>>719978416
Anon, this is a blue board.
You can't just go around violating people's posts.

>>719959651
what the fuck happened to Cheebs?

beastfly was so frustrating that I use beast crest as a trophy
case in point, widow run with beast: https://files.catbox.moe/u7b4n1.mp4

How to fix the game:
- iframe on dash
- remove currencies entirely
- move everything in shops around the map in all the pointless secret dead ends or from bosses
- get rid of contact damage
- compass as a default instead of wasting a slot
- iframes when hit

Man people were hyping that Sister something or another boss at the end of Shellwood as being super hard but I absolutely bodied her on my 2nd try.

>>719979129
>spend silk to enter recovery state
>only get 1 hp back because you didn't hit the boss enough when any other mode would give you 3 hp
Why is this crest so horrible? Unless it can get upgraded the maximum amount of equip slots it has is even less than the rest.

>>719979302
Got it on my first try, same with the next boss, without even finding a bench in-between. But the boss after THAT killed me like 6 times.

>>719979373
You have to opportunity to gain more than 3, and it allows you to top off your health when you know you won't be healing for a while. downward air attack also functions as an extra sideways boost. I feel like I can make it work. it's also fun

breh is every boss runback gonna be seathe the scaless tier?

>defeat widow
>did bellheart quests
>have song ability
where do i go now? im guessing there is a door I should open somewhere with my song but i dont know where. i looked the far left of shellwood dont think its that. was it wormways?

do you need double jump to reach the weaver door in the wormways?

>>719965465
bloodstained was hot ass

>>719979563
There's one door in the far fields near where you got the cloak upgrade.
There's another one in mosshome (the intro area).

>>719976124
>>719976124

>>719979702
Seems like it. I dont know where to get the grapple to get the double jump in the slab though

What did i just pick up here? Something flashed up but it doesnt show in my inventory. Looked silver and pointy at the top

>>719979924
thx

>Get to judge fucker
>Wrists, arms and shoulders screaming in pain
I can't do it anymore bros. I'm too boomer.

>>719980062
spool fragment.
2 of them lets you hold more silk

>>719979993
>>719976321

>>719980062
I can't remember what it's called, if you get 2 it gives you an extra bar (as in, 10%) of silk. It is on the inventory

Im sorry was i suppsoed to find moorwing hard? I beat him first try with no issues? Why do you all suck so hard at video games?
the game spawned him super late since i road the fleas so i already had two nail upgrades lul git gud

I think my biggest criticism is just the same criticism I have for any 2D platformer/metroidvania, why does contact with the enemy immediately damage me, especially bosses where it's a full 2 pips of my health gone, of which at this point in the game that's 1/3rd of my health.

>>719980064
NP.
I got the names messed up, it was moss grotto.The place you start in before bone bottom.

what if instead of silksong it was called milksong and hornet shot out milk

>>719958852
Use the fucking daggers

LAST JUDGE EXPLODES ON DEATH
FUCK ANYONE NOT MENTIONING THIS
FUCK YOUR EBIN TROLL MOMENT
I WILL "RUIN" THIS FOR EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS THREAD
YOU'RE WELCOME

Are there better controllers, ergonomically? Dualsense is physically killing me.

silksongfags fear this

I just really genuinely want to know why they decided so many bosses need adds like it's not good enough to just give them a fun move set to evade and attack against, you have to worry about some other fucknugget running into you or throwing a tiny projectile from off screen. Is it from outside the original 2-3 devs? did the people they contract come up with these ideas to just make bosses annoying and retarded?

Do you need an item to get through the mist area? Fuck this lost woods shit.

Why couldn't they just add an easy mode?

>>719980554
Hopefully if they do patch in nerfs it's in the form of an easy mode

Are the deliveries from the bellbottom merchants just suppsoed to be a grindabke source of money? I finished the first one and it just repeated itself

>>719980487
This is the natural result of a handful of devs doing nothing but playing their own game for 5 years, and designing more content for themselves as they increasingly become hyper competent at it.
Same outcome as like kaizo mario romhacks. It's made for people who can see The Matrix code as they play.

Just found out I missed the dude who upgrades the nail kek. I almost beat the game without the dmg upgrade fml no shit everything was so tanky

>>719980374
>he wasn't capable of figuring it out before he went kaboom
sounds like a skill issue

>>719980487
Its weird because only the side bosses are this dogshit. The main bosses like Lace, Fourth Chorus, Widow, Last Judge, Cogwork Dancers are all very good fights interrupted by putrid dogshit like the Savage Beastfly

>>719980927
I did. I didn't expect the explosion to cover most of the arena and hit me for 3 hp.

>>719981024
Phantom is legit my favorite boss so far, though. And it's far from being mainline.

>>719958647 (OP)
I'm glad I'm not the only person who got fucked by this boss. Took like 40 minutes to beat it and the reward was some stupid bullshit weapon style that's worse than the default. This fucker was harder than every other boss so far because they gave it entirely too much health.

>>719981118
Haven't found Phantom yet and I'm in Act 2. Where is he?

>>719980374
I was standing next to her, waiting, but then stepped away after like 4 seconds like "there's no way this boss is going to explode."

>>719981206
At the end of The Mist.

>>719980487
>>719980797
>>719981024
Holy fuck USE YOUR SIDE WEAPONS USE YOUR MAGIC ITS NOT THAT HARD YOU BITCH BABY FAGGOTS

>>719981230
Where's the Mist?

>>719981249
>Holy fuck USE YOUR SIDE WEAPONS USE YOUR MAGIC
you didn't beat the game

>>719981230
The book end or the end where everyone stupidly kills themselves in the car?

>>719981249
>side weapons expended, every poisoned shot hits multiple enemies
>adds still not dead or more spawn
Thanks

>>719981249
>use your side weapons
At the cost of all of my shards
>Use your magic
At the cost of the stuff I need to heal

>>719981282
Secret wall on the top left of Sinner's Road
Alternatively secret wall on the bottom left of Bilewater, which is closer to a bench

>>719981315
>wanderer crest
>rb and b removed from my controller
>no masks
>no charms
>no sprinting but i can dash
>play the game as closly as origional hollow knight as possible
Yup, its gaming time

>>719981035
That arena is actual trolling. It baits you into thinking it's chill, then boom, half the screen is just fire and regret. I had full health, two heals queued, and still got deleted. I swear it's like they watched people solo the beta and just said “alright, explosion radius x3, damage x2, don’t tell anyone.”

>>719981376
>At the cost of all of my shards
Literaly non issue
>heal
Git fucking gud

>Finally defeat Last Judge
>Get to next area
>Insert 90 rosaries? Insert 15 rosaries? Insert 15 rosaries?
How do they expect you to have money after a boss fight?
People always compare this game to Dark Souls but in DS you don't have to pay money to unlock bonfires.
This isn't hard, it's just tedious and annoying.

>>719968406
yay

>>719981346
>he didnt explore and found the side weapon dmg upgrades
>he didnt use the memory lockets or whatever the fuck their called to slot in another side weapon(if you expend all ~30 shots before the boss is dead thats on you)

>>719981858
I'm constantly at 0 shards just upkeeping one side weapon.

Just entered Act 2 and holly shit I want to KMS

>the mist
what the fuck am i even supposed to do here
i know this is a maze location but there isn't anything to tell you even a hint of where to go

Is it possible to traverse the mists?
or do you need an item?
Still don't have a map for bilgewater and idk where the fuck to go.

>>719982194
the game is like crawling through broken glass constantly. i dont recall the last time i had such a unpleasant experience playing something

>>719982308
>>719982337
Diddle your fiddle

>>719982308
>>719982337
play harp for creatures they will show the way

literally what were they thinking with this whole cancerous assfuck gauntlet area and boss. its tuned to the maximum of what hk dlcs were. what the fuck.

>>719982560
forgot pic

>>719958647 (OP)
>>719958852

>beat it after only 2 tries

I can see how it can be hard but ultimately you just need to let it use its dumbass pound attack to destroy the enemies that he spawns so you don't need to deal with them. As long as the are is just you vs the fly, you should be golden.

>pay for a bench
>need to run through mini path of pain to unstuck it
?????????????????????????????????????????

>>719982638
I dunno I thought this boss was pretty inoffensive as far as dogshit side bosses go in this game

>>719983557
There's this really fucking annoying trend in this game where they don't give you benches anymore they first make you pay for them and then make you do an annoying puzzle just to use it. Le hard for the sake of le hard.

Is there actually any use for this?

>>719981669
At this point I'm just:
>Kill Last Judge
>Google "where to go after Last Judge"
>Kill Cogwork Dancers
>Google "where to go after Cogwork Dancers"
And so on, I completely lost the drive to explore every nook and cranny. Not to mention that it's at least 10 hours since I got the Mantis Claws and haven't find double jump or something to climb the rings.
I'm just getting really tired.

>>719983668
Yeah I'm not even enjoying the music or environments because I'm constantly mad and expecting a 3 mask damage rock to fall on me and instarape me, fucking annoying

>Phantom
Extremely easy boss. What is with the difficulty curve in this game. One minute you'll have Lord of Rape and Death Megatron Son of Satan that does 15 masks per hit and needs 20 minutes of nonstop whacking to kill and then you'll have bosses like Phantom which are barely any harder than early game HK1 bosses

>>719983557
I hate how they don't even reward you with a bench after a hard boss (or in fact any rewards at all).
Oh, you beat the Last Judge with his 2 minute bullshit corpse run?
How about you pay 15 rosaries for a one-time bench.
People meme on HK being Dark Souls, but in DS you never had to pay for a bonfire or to use your spells.

>>719980257
I think it would be fine if the default nail had more range. It feels like you need to get too close. Outside of that though I feel like it's way less of an issue than it was in HK due to how mobile Hornet is.

>>719983785
i looked up where to get all the movement tools like double jump and so on asap. tired of all the dead end bullshit. the map is too labyrinthine, confusing and poorly designed to organicaly find shit

>>719983941
>High Halls
>Do extremely difficult arena fight with at least 20 enemies in it three of which are bosses, two of which you have to fight at the same time
>Your reward is just being able to progress the game, no money no nothing
What a crock of shit. Did these retards really play through their own game and not determine
>Hmm maybe we should give the player a reward for difficult encounters

Anyone able to confirm that repairing the Silkshot with the Deep Dock craftbug gives you something different than when you repair it with the engineer in the citadel? engineer gives you a 3 shot burst gun, and it's red :)

>>719958647 (OP)
Just beat Widow and checked out the two weaver doors I found(one in Mosshome, one in the Far Fields). Is there another one I missed somewhere or is there another area I should be looking at? I've found the sandy area on the left and the Sinner's Road but I haven't explored either of them much yet.
Also what's with the Wardenfly area? I killed him and couldn't find anything past him.

There's a hidden section in the Far Fields that's innaccessible, it's in the top right of the map near Pilgrim's Rest. Anyone get there yet?

>>719984285
>I killed him and couldn't find anything past him.

thats the whole games gimmick this time around. you get jack shit for beating bosses

How is it possible to reach the two Dancers before doing the Last Judge?

>>719978416
did this not happen to me because my ordering was different

>>719984674
You can enter the citadel without fighting the judge

>>719984720
Really? I went through Blasted Steps.

ngl having to pay for everything is starting to piss me off

>>719984596
I wouldn't really call the Wardenfly a boss, but fair enough.

>>719983941
I didnt find the last judge corpse run TOO bad and killed her in <5-10 attempts but yeah it's annoying, everything is built about inconveniencing the player in this fucking game

>>719958852
you're not meant to beat it yet. i beat him after i got a new heart container

YOU SAID IT WASN'T WOKE! YOU SWORE IT WASN'T WOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>719960447
>>719961327
You kill the adds by making the boss slam into them. It’s not hard.

>>719984260
It seems the one at Deep Dock gives you a single shot silkshot with around the same ammo.
No idea on the damage numbers

I just paid 40 rosaries to a machine for something that didn't tell me what it was in The Choral Chambers, and the item got spat out next to a door and I accidentally exited, so now the item is gone and I can't use the machine again.

The icon on the ground looked like a bundle of silk. Did I miss something important?

>>719984267
why did they draw her like that

>>719958647 (OP)
>>719958852
Took me 2 tries, wtf was the big deal?

>>719979534
at least Seath is a total pushover

>>719985035
nah, you payed for a bundle of silk, it's set dressing for the world

I'm kinda confused about the pogo, I noticed if you do the somersault afterwards you can turn around easily but if you do the two other animations you're unable to turn around, anyone else having issues with that?

>>719984837
It's not about being hard, I killed the Last Judge pretty quick too, but it's just that there's never any moment where I think 'Oh that was worth it'.
When I enter new areas in other games, I'm excited about exploring, here I'm already being annoyed that I will have to grind for rosaries to unlock the bench, fast travel and map.

>>719985024
interesting, wonder if there will be similar cases

>>719985251
Thank god, I thought I had missed something and my 100% run would be fucked up.

>>719976667
>and play very very agressive
I play like that and it's just not very good. Wanderer's is much better for that niche if you ask me.

>>719985334
so why are you even playing this game if you are uninterested in seeing more of it via progressing past bosses, it's over for you, play something else

>>719981249
>use your movement input to attack
no thanks. whoever decided that the non-combat needolin needed a dedicated button but the combat tools are fine with a combination should be raked over some coals

>come on /v/ to make beastfly thread
>find one on the first thread
Finally beat this fuck with a last chance desperation needle throw. Took me 10 tries, and at least 3 were because I got wombo combo'd into an unavoidable death by the ads. Pure cancer.

>>719985297
I haven't had an issue at all.

ITS HIS FAUULTT!!! ITS ALLLL HIS FAUUUULT!!!!!

>>719983679
muh lore

This fucker was fun at first then just turned tedious as he started to over stay his welcome without adding anything new. And I don't know what they were thinking with that unnecessary phase 3 where they just reduce you down to one or two blocks at a time it doesn't make him harder it just artificially draws out the boss fight by reducing the amount of chances you have to hit him

Beast crest has the best pogo and platforming. You guys are just really bad. Beast mode also boosts your damage and knockback to a significant degree. Unreliable healing and less charm slots are massive downsides though. I don't know why the devs though that the charm slot reduction was necessary.

>>719985715
Bro this was the easiest fucker in the game. How did you struggle with him?

>>719985626
He looks like a guy who likes to shove rusty nails down to his own urethra.

Post YFW: Gharama!

>>719958647 (OP)
this is the biggest bullshit boss in all of metroidvanias
>do a gauntlet to get to the last two guys
>they both spam aoes and jump so one bad RNG pattern and you just die
who the fuck decided this was fair in a tiny boss room?

>>719958647 (OP)
I just beat this fucking thing. The boss itself and his little runback wasn't so bad but it was a fucking gauntlet getting to him. Fuck ants.

The reward is dogshit. What the fuck even is this supposed to do for me?

>>719985715
anon....

>>719985715
This dude is literally turn based combat.
Dodge
Attack
Dodge
Attack

>>719985808
also,
>aoe is a giant circle
>if by chance you have to jump or dash for the aoe, and the other guy jumps in your path, you die
>if he spams his aoe, you die
awful, the fight with the 2 dancing bugs was fun, this is shit.

>>719985715
>he missed the ceiling kill shot

>>719985776
I didn't say that I said that he was drawn out. I was bored of the fight by the time he was at the last phase and just wanted it done. What I'm saying is some of the stuff in this game could do with having slightly less health

>>719985808
You forgot that this is mandatory to progress the game

Double Moss Mother was a nightmare for me. I've got serious issues keeping track of things when there's 5 or 6 enemies running around.

Fucking finally god dammit this cunt took me like 50 tries.

Damn, this nigga was fun to fight

>>719986000
Boss refights in Hollow Knight 1:
>Here's Soul Master except we changed his moveset to be harder adding more projectiles or making him faster
Boss refights in Silksong:
>Here's the fucking Grub Mother equivalent except there's two of them and they spawn like 6 adds in a tiny room
>Here's the Vengefly King equivalent except you fight him on lava with breakable platforms

>>719986000
I just mindlessly attack spammed in beast mode. There are so many targets that you can spam it endlessly.

>4.3 hours in
>explored a ton
>only found 1 Mask fragment for health
>you need 4 for one mask of health more

christ, they are stingy as fuck with these

I can't beat the room with multiple different ants attacking you and that map seller helping you later there. Already have dash and that cloth that lets you float. This shit is giving me way more trouble than bosses so far.

>>719985794
He has three kids btw.

If someone struggling with this Moorwing fucker.
You need to get reaper crest, then jump + down + attack from his claws attack, so you bounce up, and yet another jump + down + attack, and then you pogo jumping on his head. That's it. If you are struggling, try to jump from a little platform on the right.

>>719986146
Act 1 is the tutorial of the game.

>>719986159
It sucks ass. Just run away and pray you don't get RNG'd while she wins for you.

Last judge 2nd phase is a bit fucked. The runback is shit too, I wouldnt mind it so much if diagonal polo wasn't so inconsistent sometimes

>>719986146
and guess what you will still die in 3 hits in "difficult" fights until you get the 7th because of the constant double damage

>>719986146
even if you get +1 health upgrade you're still gonna die in 3 hits against bosses lol retarded devs

so is this game a prequel, or a sequel to hollow knight?

>>719986217
>it gets good 12 hours in

>>719958647 (OP)
>everyone complaining about early game stuff
>I just got to the clocktower
About to drop this game fr. This is going to filter all the casual players. It's so over.

>>719986203
even better, if someone's struggling they can just skip him entirely by doing the flea quest

>>719986258
It gets more bullshit 12 hours in. Prepare to scream at your monitor.

>>719986258
nta
if the first part of the game isn't clicking for you, just drop it
refund it if you can

>>719986328
Nah act 1 is by far the harder act cause you're way more cockblocked on upgrades.

>>719986317
I think he also gets skipped if you enter from the other side.

>>719985840
>>719985887
see>>719985954

What? He was supposed to be hard?

>>719986317
You can also just cheese him.

>>719986706
It's basically rng, if you get some of those bigger mobs it's harder

Moorwing takes 70 hits.
Pretty sure 4th Chorus also takes about 70 hits.

>>719986706
If you get bad rng with the summons it can get out of hand.

am I right to assume there's going to be enough of those memory thingies to fully unlock other crests

my wife is very stuck on moorwing. she has 5 masks and i think a druids eye and warding bell.
should she go somewhere else and come back later?

>>719986812
Has anyone made a healthbar mod yet? I don't trust people counting once the numbers are that high

>Shakra stops singing as much the more you progress
:(

>>719980853
If it's the same as Hollow Knight, the nail upgrade gives bosses more health.

I just beat widow. Holy fuck the bellhart theme is amazing
How do they do it everytime

How in the FUCK have people done Last Judge. The second phase if FUCKING impossible. I have magma charm on, I've cleared out every area before, I have 6 hearts, I'm using subweapons, I have shield skull and I still cannot dodge that FUCKING dash attack.

>>719986809
The big ones are the easiest, if he floor smashes anywhere near them they instantly die

>>719986943
>wife
(male, imaginary)
YOU probably should, yes

>>719984980
One of the dancers is female.

anyone know how many rosaries the knife throwing minigame nigger gives you for clearing the 25 target stage?

>tfw going to new areas and fighting new enemies fucking murders me
God I like this game but I'm starting to feel like I'm not having fun.
Am I just being impatient? Am I too fucking old for reaction gameplay now?
It just makes me wanna not paly and I'm being quite honest.
What mistake am I making?

>>719987041
you're meant to jump, just watch for the pose and then react

>>719987049
nope, the hitboxes are all fucked up and they don't even die from the boss attacks most of time

widow was pretty easy, i cleared her in about 4 tries

wanderer crest + heavy belt, as well as the threefold throwing pin, are pretty great at nuking bosses fast

>>719987041
I've done enough radiant pure vessel attempts to know that you should pogo almost always when a boss does a 'dash across the floor' attack

>>719958647 (OP)
This boss could be fixed if you took the big knife-blender fuckers out of his summon pool and maybe put a bench nearer to him. Everything else you can work with, but I don't know wtf team cherry were thinking adding a big roadblock when space is at such a premium.

Or maybe I just don't know how to deal with them and there's some easier way to kill them than hit-retreat-hit-retreat or wasting a spell.

>>719987041
>shield skull
Where do you find this? I'm currently debating if I should check out Blasted Sands or Sinner's Road next.

Where is the Wanderers Crest? I unlocked the simple door to the wormways but I don't know if it's here or not.

>>719984980
They're two halves of the same guy.

But that guy is also gay.

GIT GUD

>>719985715
I liked the way this fight started.

Do normalfags like this game so far? It seems too brutal for the average joe.

>>719985715
The only time this fucker felt cheap to me was when the rng glitched or something and he spent three attacks in a row destroying the arena. I was so salty as I slowly floated down into the lava.

only thing that i think is actually egregiously bullshit dishonest design is the fact that boss body hitboxes are still active when they are staggered

and they do 3 mask damage for just brushing up against them lolmao

White bugs...

>>719987226
Widow is intimidating, but is pretty simple once you realize she's pretty pattern heavy, like how in phase 2 after the bell rain attack, she will ALWAYS charge you right after. The last try or two the only time I took hits was because I kept forgetting the bells ricochet multiple times. The rest of her attacks are pretty trivial to dodge.

>>719961327
How is that fly already at ground level?
hit them from below, force them to stay up there, they can't bother you

Silksong is tuned too hard. The devs got way too good at their game, the optimal gameplay is to use your skills, tools and mid air pogo attacks but for anyone who isnt clearing all the hard content in hollow knight it basically filters all the new people.

>>719987041
You literally just jump over it. Or if you have lots of space behind you you can run away and then punish it when it stops

>>719987389
they didn't play the last one and they still loved it

>>719987389
no all the normal fags went back to rabi ribi

This fucking room took me more tries than any boss. Can't wait to lose a hundred steel soul runs here while trying for 100% completion.

is there actual story or is it just the soulslike kind of "it's a decaying world and everything is mysterious and obscure"

>>719987508
i have done hitless runs of hollow knight and tevi and I'm still getting filtered by this nonsense. I can't imagine what casual players are thinking lmfao

>>719987267
Honestly, I think a lot of issues I'm running into with this game would be fixed if Hornet had iframes. Getting hit by the blender wouldn't suck so much if it didn't keep comboing you so you end up getting hit 2-3 times.

>>719987573
yes you even get quest markers to follow it now

>>719985587
Attached is a webm of what I mean, notice how when I do the somersault I can immediately turn around in the air and can even turn back and forth quickly, but when I do the other two animations I'm unable to actually turn around until I touch the ground

this is not balanced AT ALL (one on left)

>>719987389
The gamerdads will just install a dozen easy mode mods so they can talk about beating it.

>>719986224
>>719986159
I only now realized that the map seller does not spawn to help me in that room anymore. So I guess I have to find a way to beat it without her. Did I fuck up progression somehow when I explored up to Greymoor or something?

how the fuck do you get up here?

>>719987681
pic attached this time

it would be fine if the arena wasnt 50% of the 2 enemies at the end of the gauntlet, holy shit

From a QOL perspective, I think it was absolutely retarded to separate the final village and the Bellways. Taking the Bellway then the Ventrica to the first shrine is tedious.

>>719958647 (OP)
The clockwork dancers were surprisingly easy, like WTF. I panicked a little after killing the first guy but thank god the last one is just a weakling

>>719987380
Same but he doesn't have enough variation in his attacks to justify being as tanky as he is. He either could do without the third phase or just have his health reduced

>>719987323
You can buy it from a shopkeep in Hunter's March. In a secret spot in a room above the room with the trap bench.

hidden secret path?! wonder what could be inside?!
>rosary necklace
>SHARD BUNDLE
gee... t-thanks, Team Cherry...

>>719958647 (OP)
>>719958852
Its downward slam attacks instantly kill all adds during the fight. You can manipulate where it attacks then dash away so it kills them for you.

I'm 10 hours in and haven't found a single needle upgrade
I'm fighting flying bugs that take 5 (FIVE) hits to kill
what in the actual fuck

>>719987849
Ah damn. Well no time like the present I guess.

White Palace : Silksong Edition.
Fuck whoever thought 2 damage per hit was ok.

>>719987585
>I have done hitless runs of (GAMES I HAVE PLAYED BEFORE) and I'm still getting filtered by (GAME I HAVE NOT PLAYED BEFORE)

>>719987109
He gives you one of the big necklaces worth 220

>>719971980
Wait nevermind, the fight was pretty good actually. Hard to punish in the 2nd phase a bit more but she went down eventually. No tools either. Magma bell does come in handy for this fight

>>719987706
>tfw work full time 5 10-12 hour days
>game kicking my ass so hard i hardly make progress in the 4 hours i get to myself before bed
>game is supposed 2 to 3x larger than the original
I'll be honest, I've thought about it.
I'm really fucking sad i've thought about it too, but maybe it's the only way i'm actually going to finish this shit

>>719971885
>being this wrong
What's wrong with a knight's quest?

Before I use my memory lockets,
Is it possible to have more lockets in my Hunter's Crest?

>>719987041
For second phase always stay at range unless he jumps, try to stay away from the walls.
>Whirl attack, look at the red lines and move to a safe spot
>Dash, jump over him and look at the lines again
>Jump, jump/hover the explosion and hit him twice, this is where you want to actually damage him
>Reel in, stay away from the ball, if you're close to him jump over it when he pulls it back
He has a one-time intermission too which is his whirl attack on repeat for like 6 times too, but that one is pretty easy.
Also if you actually do kill him move away from his corpse (grab onto a wall), he will explode.
He's actually pretty easy once you've memorized his patterns, the corpse run towards him is ass though.

>>719988007
Sounds like it's time for you to hang up your gaming-hat and start watching streamers instead, old-man

>>719987327
You are in the right area. There's a hole you need to drop down to find the chapel. In the far left part before you start ascending.

>>719988107
Nah fuck that.
I'd probably have a better time if anything that was a non-boss didn't do 2 hearts of damage.

>>719988007
It's shorter than the first

>>719988062
Just beat it magma bell, fractured skull, weighted belt, plasmium phial and boomerang.

Turns out it's way easier than I thought. It was still too long but the strategy was pretty simple. First phase is easy, just hit and run. Second phase the strategy was to keep my distance and after the second fall down I just fucking bombed her with boomerangs.

The plasmium phial is fucking goated because it basically nullifies the 2 health damage.

Anyway I forgot that she self destructs but thankfully I still had my fractured mask. All is good with the world, gonna sit here and enjoy this seratonin for a bit.

>>719987389
>719987389
difficulty spikes with the boss right after reaper's crest. Not because the boss is hard, but because it's very early game and he does 2 damage and there's no exploration rewards that will help you get more health or anything useful (besides reaper's crest. you're supposed to use that)
It's not even a skill issue difficulty. It's a don't be retarded and use your tools/crests issue.

>>719988287
>10 hours in
>reached 6 areas
>game has 28
I dunno senpai

what do you get for bringing extra mossberries to the druid?

>>719987882
Bellheart after beating Widow is the first.

Whjere the fuck is the witch at near the beginning again? I finally found all the berries but can't seem to remember where she's at.

>>719984107
There now. Went exploring elsewhere as soon as I saw the final two.

>>719986943
4 strategies
>Skip the boss with the quest. You can fight him later
>Cheese the boss by climbing on top of the map to the enterence and hit him throw floor
>Pogojump him to death
>Take your time and attack once everytime he dives, learn to dodge his second phase sawblades attack, dont be greedy

>>719958647 (OP)
Why is /v/ so bad at video games lmao.
People were hyping up Widow so much, and I beat that in the second try.

>seeing a bunch of people praising the game
>they're all stuck on beastfly or some other early game shit
>no one's talking about the platforming in the Citadel areas or the five thousand wave arena fight culminating in two of the worst enemies in the game
I think I'm okay with just not playing this game anymore. It just feels like it's actively trying to waste as much of my time and energy as possible, and I'm done letting it.

This game gives you so many ways to just wail on things constantly. You can play hyper aggressively at all times. It's like the bloodborne of metroidvanias.

>>719988678
Just wait for a patch and pretend it's Early Access.

>mfw I went up the wrong way and got into the Citadel through Phantom instead
I completely missed the Last Judge until I went back to clear the areas I hadn't explored yet

>>719988701
And you can use tools
And you can use magic

>>719988726
What are they going to do, remove all the saws? You can't patch out fundamentally bad game design, anon.

in the first game, exploration was very rewarding. Some neat badge, some masks, something useful always lurking.
here at best it's a tool or rosaries.

I give up, where do you get the Harpoon?

>>719985236
Unless you're trying to get the Moonlight Greatsword

>>719988805
Just adjust the damge from two masks to one. Their is no reason why a stage hazard should deal 2 masks when some dont. It feels like an ametuer modders way of making the game more difficult.

>>719988882
don't forget shard bundles

>>719985928
you played this long and didn't learn about parrying?

>>719988423
don't know. might drop more shit than rosaries if you keep at it.

>>719988964
PS5.

>>719989048
Parrying dosent stun the enemy or give you i frames to their attack. You will most likely take contact damage. Pointless mechanic.

>>719988758
This happened to me too and I detested bilgewater + Mist
idk how to get to him normally

>>719989048
cant parry two giant AOE circles

this boss is LITERALLY rng and I hate it, if one jumps and the other puts an AOE circle down, you die

it is 100% luck, cause they phase through each other and spam aoes or jumps. there is no room to do shit except pogo, except they will hit you with a jump anyway.

Going through shitwater and the mist burned me out on this game
Those areas were soul draining and boring.

>>719985535
>no thanks. whoever decided that the non-combat needolin needed a dedicated button but the combat tools are fine with a combination should be raked over some coals

I feel the same way, game already expects me to do utilise all of my movement and then they add directionals to the mix just to be able to use a side weapon (which, admittedly, is quite strong)

and then they want you to fight it with the sinking lava floor later

>>719989125
It completely negates their attack lmao

>>719958647 (OP)
I'm fine with the adds. I'm fine with most of the boss's pattern. But the thing I think that ruins the boss, is its level of tracking. Like most flying creatures in Hollow Knight, it tracks your vertical position, and adjusts up and down accordingly. In the previous game, you could exploit this by jumping up to force the flier to move higher. Or avoid jumping in order to keep the flier close. When the flier dashes at you, it pauses its tracking, and comes hurdling directly at you. So you can predict its trajectory if you're observing it carefully.

The problem with this boss, is that he doesn't pause his tracking when he begins his dash. He cocks back, preparing to dash at you. And you predict you need to jump at just the right time to avoid the attack. However, while you're jumping, he's STILL adjusting his vertical position. Centering on you. And you're powerless to avoid the dash, because you're already in the air as he's moving toward you.

Not only that, his dash can come out sooner or later. I'm not sure exactly how or why. But sometimes he's coming at you more quickly than other times. Which I suspect may just be a byproduct of the swaying motion team cherry gives to all of their fliers.

Because he tracks so hard, and the timing of the dash random, it's pretty much impossible to predict where he will be.
I finally adapted to this by running away from him after his every dash, in order to get the distance required to react to his next dash. Be it high or low. But I was angry about this solution, because it didn't feel like the typical "dance" moves I've come to expect when learning Hollow Knight bosses. It felt like I was just out of options.

>>719986317
There's a flea past him though.

>>719988576
you can also ask the NPC to help you out.

>use simple key in the docks area by the toolsmith
>unlock an area that leads to a boss against two bros
>reward is another fucking locked door

>>719986328
I love anti-refund game design.

>>719989375
is there a way to get more keys?

What is this?
It doesn't give me blue masks in HK and doesn't seem to do anything.

>>719989586
it's exactly what you think it is, keep exploring

>>719989575
It's a different type of locked door, simple keys won't work on it. But to answer your question, another merchant sells a second key. There has to be enough keys to open every door.

>restore bellhart for 250 rosaries
>nothing changes
fuck you

jesus first sinner is a hard fight

>>719969194
>two hours
5-6 hours here (with a few breaks for farming in between)
Was trying from around 2am yesterday to 5-6am
And then Today started at 3pm and finally got him around 5pm
Shit was insane.

How do I escape the room where you get clawline? One of the enemies is too high up to reach.

>>719989586
Go upwards and you'll find a guy who gives you a quest related to them

>>719981249
>tools cost resource that gets depleted on hard bosses
>doesnt even kill some adds
>either farm or get used to fighting the boss without them
>too easy to waste
>magic uses the same resource that is for healing so “lol”

>>719989869
you don't get it anon, the game is perfectly balanced

>>719989692
>250 Rosaries being hard to get
lol do you even play video games?

>people are raging at savage fly
lmao if you rage at that boss you will die from anger with last judge
Fuck that niggercunt

>>719990004
I've only been using the lies of p flame grindstone tool, the others are just so impractical compared to the needle. Even the grindstone dosent last that long.

>this made the entirety of /v/ piss and shit their pants 8 years ago
we didn't know how easy we had it...

>>719990004
Just use the Reaper crest, you'll never be short on Silk again

ATTENTION! FOR THOSE HURTING FOR ROSARIES BEADS STILL IN ACT I (not sure if there's better routes after)
Halfway home bench, head left, clear out the enemies in the tunnel
About 30m or so you can collect 600 or so beads easily.
Then at the end of the tunnel is the start of Greymor, which has a rosary creating device. Instantly turn your beads into necklaces and keep that shit saved up.
IMAGE INCLUDED FOR THE PURPOSES OF ATTENTION DRAWING! ALSO GIRLS KISSING IS HOT AND I DON'T HAVE ANY SILKSONG PICS SAVED UP YET!

>>719990113
lmfao that shit is easier than the first mob in this game

>you can dump dmg into him every time he does a low swoop that's within reach of grounded upswing
>you get so many chances to build up silk and the needle launcher does massive damage
High quality filter. Use your damage openings.

>>719990119
But it makes your attacks slower.

this "boss" fight above the beast fly in the same area is even worse. Spawn two enemies with vastly different attack patterns that can cover massive distance from multiple angles in a dark area where you can barely even see, fucking stupid

>>719990267
and stronger

>>719990267
Its worth it for the downward pogo

Are they waiting until the weekend's over before releasing a patch?

anyone know what the Pollip Hearts are for?

>>719989869
>>719968406
Is this unironically your second metroidvania after the first Hollow Knight? So many players are struggling in areas I considered to be medium difficulty at worst. Here's a tip: Plan your moves, don't just jump in to attack. I feel like so many people who beat Elden Ring by just using jump + R2 became
convinced they're high skilled gamers because they beat their first "hard" game

>>719990380
Hand them in for a mission with a reward of a blue item that lets you poison your tools
Pretty baller.

>>719990380
quest, decent charm reward

>>719990274
I literally just encountered this guy and after spending like 45 minutes trying to beat him, I gave up. I don't have a dash ability or anything like that, and his long distance strike fucks me.

>>719958647 (OP)
is it really that hard?

>>719958852
Keep at it. You'll get him. Make good use of your R1 spear thing for the adds. You've probably noticed this, but the boss will hit the adds on his downward slams and damage/kill them. If he puts out two big guys at once... It's over.

>>719989269
>negate first hit
>he does a second one immediately
>ACK!

>>719968435
search up webm for retards, that's what I use

>>719990512
No. It's extremely fair and players are likely ignoring all the fuckhuge damage openings.

>>719990380
how many do I need? I already have two

>>719990504
nah the original single enemy is alright. Although yeah without dash might be tough. The one I'm talking about spawns an airborne enemy along with him

>>719990631
see
>>719990446
>>719990461

>>719990623
I wouldn't say it's "extremely fair" when a lot of the second phase can get pretty random with the mob spawns.

>>719985535
100% this, why the fuck does an item you use once in a blue moon need a face button, while one of the main combat mechanics of the game requires a double button input, one of which uses the movement button.
And the worst thing is you can't even remap it, why give us options to change the inputs if all the important ones can't be changed?

>Can only equip 1 nail skill
>Can't cycle between movesets
>Boring badges
Honestly the more i play the less i enjoy it.

TROBBIO YOU FUCKING CLOWN

>>719988701
Yeah. This is exactly why I don't mind the difficulty of fights. The game equips you with enough tools to hold your own so any failings is an actual skill issue. I like this a lot more than HK where it felt like the biggest challenge was dealing with the Knights slow clunky movement and limited attacks.

>>719990274
Its so fucking easy doe. Two uses of your silk skill gets rid of the flying guy and the big fat faggot is the easiest thing in the game to beat. Hit him twice, dodge away. Dash under if her jumps, hit twice.

>>719978416
This boss was harder than Radiance

>>719958647 (OP)
This guy is weirdly hard for what he is and where he is. What's up with that?

>>719990437
normies thought Elden Ring was the le hard game. NO actually. Lionclaw and stagger made it casual friendly.

>>719958647 (OP)
i used the tool that lets you set traps and made sure the beast killed his summons when he did the stomp, made it a lot easier

>>719990743
I'm still having fun but you do have a point about the badges and nail skills. There should be a cycle option

I legitimately dont understand how you guys can think any of the bosses are hard. They've taken me 1-5 tries max. The game pretty much encourages you to play in a way for you to try to maximize damage.

Im not a platformer vet or even action game vet. I have boomer reflexes. How are you guys struggling???

>>719990815
Team Cherry had two playtesters.

>>719990512
It's hard, but what's riling most people up, myself included, is the design--or lack thereof. The game is incredibly hostile to you, but not in a, "You're far away from home," kind of way, but rather in a, "The devs are cunts," kind of way. They don't want you to enjoy yourself. There's always some little thing taking away from the experience, be it an annoying combination of boss adds, a boss that moves just a bit too quickly, poor hitboxes, a long runback, lack of progression, areas reminiscent of Meat Boy or any precision platformer when the game was never really meant to be a precision platformer, etc.

It's just at odds with itself, and it's imbalanced. If anyone is telling you otherwise, ask them where they're at in the game. Chances are they're still in Act 1.

>>719990631
A lot more, pick up the quest in the left half of the forest map

>>719990763
>Two uses of your silk skill gets rid of the flying guy
yeah if you can even hit him. Flying AI in this game is annoying as shit and always moves just slightly outside of your area of attack while still being close enough to hit you

>>719990905
Most of the fags here are playing the game like it's Hollow Knight. They don't get that you're supposed to be zooming around just like how Hornet was in the first game.

>>719987654
Oh so that's why my air dash after pogo is so unreliable and sometimes goes off in the wrong direction. Guess I need to switch off hunter.

>>719990732
Nah, he tidies them up for you and they offer you extra silk to heal with when you hit them. You have to get VERY unlucky to get got. The beast is easy to dodge so just play patiently if the spawn situation is rough.

>>719988701
>showing a super early boss
Come back when you're playing the actual difficult content and then come back here with a straight face and tell me it's still good.

>>719990987
This. I'm moving fast as fuck using my sprint + tools.

>>719981975
...how? Im using TWO side weapons contantly and ive always been topped off AND have done all the donations ive come across, how are you losing all your shards i find that incredibly hard to believe

>>719990987
>zooming around
that's the best way to lose two masks from contact damage

>courier's rasher
Fucking almost had to redo the whole thing by a pixel on the timer

>>719991260
simply dont run into enemies

>>719991107
he can tidy them up, sure, sometimes. But if you say extremely fair I think of Lace, I don't think of the Beastfly.

>>719990274
If you spend your time hitting the flying enemy while he's in the ground you'll be ok. Just pogo the big guy and wail on the flying guy while he's below. Eventually you'll get it. Alternatively you can spam tools too that helps

>>719987041
Ok first phase is free.

For the second phase just try to stay in the middle a bit because sometimes you can get stuck by the walls. She really only has 3 attacks anyway.

With the dash just wait until the last minute then jump before she comes and then wiggle in the air to dodge the pillars.

For her fire circles thing just stay between them, it's easy to dodge.

I found the only really good punish window is when she does the slam attack in 2nd phase. Jump up in the air and you can get 2 or 3 good hits on her.

The runback sucks but just focus on learning her patterns and how to dodge everything first then it will be easier.

If it helps, the bellhart merchant sells a charm for 880 rosaries i believe that heals 4 masks instead of 2 which I found pretty good since that boss gives you a lot of time to heal while it fucks around.


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These bells are a boss for me. My memory sucks

>>719991260
Holy fuck nigga just don't get hit

>>719985535
>movement input to attack
??? Youre moving left and right. Up and down do nothing for your movement

>>719981975
One of the first charms you get makes enemies drop more shards. You can hold 400 by default and more with upgrades. How are you running out?

>>719990119
shit frame data.
only the downward pogo is good.

>>719990149
>yuritroon is here
oh no

>>719991260
But dash attack combos into your pogo?

>>719991301
Nah, beastfly is honest. The only dangerous add is the normal flies because they're harder to ignore but they die in 3 easy hits.

>Mists
What the fuck is this

>>719990149
The tunnel is right, not left. Also use the spear skill to kill 2 out of the 3 mobs. Single hot then kills the fat boy. If you are low on silk get the drink from the halfway home barkeep.

>>719990905
Literally everyone is trying to play the game like this >>719981504
Creating a nioh effect where everyone collectively bitches that the game expects you to actualy use its mechanics

>>719991442
Now tell me please how you gonna press left if you're pressing up in the same frame?

remember to eat healthy while playing silksong anons

>>719990738
Can't you rebind controls?
Not at my pc so can't check.

>>719991640
A gimmick area
Figure out the gimmick

>>719991820
Not all of them.

>>719991820
You can rebind everything except the things that matter, tool usage and pogo.

After all the bitching about this game I'm scared to start playing because it sounds unbalanced as fuck

>>719991926
wait until the game gets fixed

>>719991767
The thing is if you played hollow knight in a safe way, sure. But Hollow Knight can be played in the maximize damage always mode, I guess it was just that you NEED to do that in this game or you get get stuck on completely trivial bosses

anyone know where i can find a 3rd craftmetal in act 1?

>>719991861
[/spoiler]I usually just blunder around these until I luck into the right direction.
Is it following the flies?

this is some bed of chaos shit

>>719991926
A lot of it is just scrubs whining. The legitimate stuff like their being no rewards for exploration and just less overall ambiance than Hollow Knight are valid, thoughbeit

>>719991784
I cant believe im sharing a board with people like this

>>719961469
Just beat the funny spitting ceiling crawler to get the bone bits pickup and what you've just said is a worse reward. Fuck.
Thank you for this information.

Gotta go fast!

>>719991861
I usually just blunder around these until I luck into the right direction. Is it following the flies?

>>719992003
Yes the game expects you to use its mechanics.

>>719991926
A vast vast majority of the bitching is /v/ proving that they suck shit at video games. Youre not bad at videogames too are you anon?

what do you guys think of the crests? I just switch back to hunter every time

I'm loving the game so far.
One issue I have with it is that music doesn't mute when you get hit and the sound of getting hit has less impact. It's a small thing but it really added something to hollow knight.

>>719992307
I'm still in the early game so I've only got the one that gives you the knight's moveset. Nopped right out of that slow-shit

>>719962243
having 2 tools and higher attack speed and leech instead of the normal heal is actually ridiculous if you can get over the different platforming and needing an enemy to heal

>>719992307
Beast Crest is fuckin' coolio

Not really sure why everybody complains about the HP in this game so far everything has been fine

>>719960214
>there isn't actually a reward for beating him.
objectively incorrect

>>719992307
I switched to reaper and never looked back. The straight down slash is a godsend.

The clockwork dancers were so charming. It felt like something out of Lies of P

>>719990942
Anyone who programs or defends enemies flying or moving just out of reach of you is a cunt, plain and simple. That type of design is so infuriating. I don't care if it makes sense--why wouldn't an enemy dodge?--it's unfun as hell and I fucking hate it. I'm playing a video game not getting mugged in an alley.

God, fuck this game. I tried so hard to meet it on its level and it just keeps abusing me.

>>719962243
I don't know if it's really bad or not, but it makes me go unga bunga and then I die.

>>719992385
>having 2 tools
hunter has that too

>>719992307
All of them are gimmicky bullshit that either ruin youre movement for no reason and dont actually flow well with how combat in this game works. Only exception ive found is the reaper, but its description is deceptive. Instead of being slow and strong its just slow and defensive, decent but disappointing. Just stick with hunter

>wanderers crest
why the fuck is this behind 5-6h of playtime?

>>719992458
I felt bad for the one left when you kill the first one. When it tries to do the dance move and falls to the floor after.

>>719992307
Really designed for NG+ rounds, obviously. Not only does it take quite a while to unlock most of the slots with Memory Crests, but a vast majority of the movesets are very reliant on upgrades/charms you find as you play the game.

>>719958852
I learned with sister splinter that you really just need to make sure you have the main boss down frame perfect, so you can save your silk to obliterate his summons.

>>719992176
>what you've just said is a worse reward
It's a great moveset and the only one I use now. Ignore that retard.

>>719992307
I enjoy using the Wanderer crest because of how fast the attack speed is. Then I combine it with the Flea Brew tool for even faster attack speed. Sometimes I can nearly straight up skip the first or second phase on bosses if I get them during a perfect lockdown.

The downside is that the short range is fucking atrocious for flying enemies. Makes me wish that there was omni-directional attacks.

I met a cage dude, he got me. He wasn't on the same spot after I got back. Does he move to a more permanent place? A friend told me he met this guy on another zone, though I think he didn't got kidnapped.

>>719992632
Weren't they kins of the prisonner mantis bro? I met him at the bosses' spot after beating them. I think he told me something like that, but I'm a bit of a skipper so might be wrong

>>719988537
Directly above the village in the same zone.

>>719961469
Crests limit your charms?

Why the FUCK was Grandma Silk so fucking easy?
Also how do I progress from here

>winds up a charge
>immediately changes its position right before charging, demanding absolutely godlike reactions and making every single charge he does completely unsafe

I think this boss is genuinely broken and not working properly because it's the only example i've seen so far of an enemy breaking the rules so obviously.
That and taking 2 damage for contact with a stationery round bug is fucking stupid and I don't care if it's by the rules, it feels nonsensical.

It's such a weirdly unimportant enemy that I can only assume it just wasn't QA'd enough.

This dude is awesome but holy fuck he spams the arena.
>TTTROBBIOOOO
>arena explodes

>tanky as fuck
>spawns tanky as fuck minions
>shit hitbox
>shit runback
>tiny arena
>cages that spawn minions also do damage
shit boss, honestly
fucking artificial difficulty, hoping he doesnt spawn fat flyers that need 5 fucking hits to kill and have an aoe attack themselves

Just beat Phantom.
That was a fucking awesome fight.

>>719958647 (OP)
Of all the fucking piece of shit bosses in this game THIS is the one filtering you? Come on man

>>719974541
that didn't even rhyme you orange midget fuck

>>719992196
>>719991861 (me)
Scratch that I'm retarded. Got it.

>>719991529
the running attack is pretty good

>>719958647 (OP)
>>719958852
It's easier to go under him than over him, so abuse his tracking to make that happen.

I HATE GUANTLET ROOMS
I HATE GUANTLET ROOMS
I HATE GUANTLET ROOMS

>>719986817
thread storm totally rapes any summons though

>>719992881
Silk isn't the final boss? When I saw the Radiance-esque namecard I killed myself so I could keep exploring.

>>719992949
Yeah that's kinda funny, I think it reveals how people are playing this game: X X X X X X.
It's like playing Elden Ring like it was DS1.
I can't wait for them to discover the second one, who'll probably be easier for them because the ads are even easier to deal with.

>>719992307

Reaper is superb, especially the launching dash attack. The range is perfect for flying assholes, and the downjump is easy to use.
Wanderer carried most of the playthrough and I can see myself going back to it when I just need to flail at a problem until it dies.

>>719992847
I think he just means it's limited since if you just got the crest and might not have any of the things that expand your charm slots.

>>719991529
what you want is the wanderer crest
which is essentially the HK moveset
its found left to the starting area after you get the wall climbing ability

Holy fuck those ghosts in the mist are bullshit.

>>719992934
He friendly fires his adds with the ground smash, so it's not that bad.

>>719993053

Now do this fight without him instantly summoning the asshole that takes 4 hits to kill, is invincible for 3 seconds at a time and camps mid-air so you have none of the aerial mobility that you need to survive.

>>719992307
I'm disappointed that the crafter's crest still requires you to have rocks to craft tools. It should have been free with a CD..
Still missing the two last, but I'm a reaper dude. The shoryuken is fun. Hunter and Wanderer are meh in my book of fun.

>>719993098
It's so fucking piss easy I refuse to believe it isn't supposed to be the appetizer to the REAL final boss.
There's also the diving bell in the Docks that I have no clue how to open.

>>719991670
Right, my bad.
I prefer to use thread storm. Jump above out of the dash and you can get right above all 3 and obliterate them.
>>719993053
Yeah the other anon is right, you got insanely lucky there with the rng on his attacks. Still good showing with the silk skill
>>719993298
Use the bobby trap or the boomerang to quickly clear that guy. Takes two traps and I think 3 boomerangs if they hit properly.

When does act 2 start? I just beat the boss above the bell village and got the needolin

Okay, just started to play Hollow Knight, am I fucked if i moslty dont play platformers, but can adopt quickly? Like what even awaits me in Silksong? Some fucked up and broken difficulty, or just normal challenge? Or the true is actually somewhere in the middle?

>>719993298
bro just fight, do what you can to prevent that, use your tools, a spell, your eyes, try again if you die
it's gimmicky but not hard
just nuke the adds as they come, it's that easy

>swift step obtained
man i was wondering how long it'd take before hornet would get her mobility back but i didn't expect her to go from geriatric to speed demon this soon
does she end up doing flash steps by the endgame at this rate?

>>719993410
It starts RIGHT after beating the next main boss you'll meet, check below if you want more spoilery details.
Name: The Last Judge
Where: End of the blasted steps

>>719993506
>Or the true is actually somewhere in the middle?
It's somewhere in the middle. There's some things that definitely feel like bullshit, but you learn to adapt to it. Nothing ever feels like it's straight up impossible, it's just all about not fucking up.

>>719993002
>>>719992196(You)
>>>719991861 (me)
Shit I got that swapped please ignore that

>>719993598
Fuck I'm in part 2 already? How do I get out? I haven't fully experienced sinner alley

>>719993193
Beast crest doesn't have any blue slots.

>>719993735
There's a fast travel point in the slab.

>>719993735
You can find your way back, but you'll have to continue for a bit. It doesn't lock you out of anything as far as I know.
Ahem, fuck sinner's alley.

>>719987041
>I have magma charm on
That was your first mistake take that shit off

>>719993735
Huh did i miss something? I never got an ACT 2 message

I've got to act 2 and never found sinners alley. Where do I find it?

>>719993995
It's top of map above the inn in the grey area.

>>719993995
From the tavern in greymoore, take the elevator (at the left entrance), just go all the way to the corner up and right. Then continue right (it's either 1 screen or you'll be directly there).
Good luck, you'll need it

>>719993941
Is there even a good blue charm? I haven't found one that wasn't more of a "meh" reaction.

>>719992458
Agreed. Fighting them now and they seem like an actually non BS boss

>>719994203
Theres one good blue charm hidden somewhere in the ant zone

>>719993941
Magma bell combined with phial literally made the fight possible by reducing all hits to virtually 1.

>>719987041
Just be really conservative. Stick close to him. Only attack when he does the jump attack ground pound. Don't bother being a hero unless you're zesty. It's really easy, but time consuming.

the charm system is just a straight downgrade.. wtf were they thinking

FUCK YOU YOU DUMB CUNT DUMB FUCKING SHITTER
SHIT BOSS

Holy shit how much HP does this fucker have? I must have hit him at least 60 times and still he didn't die.

>>719994203
You can get a good one by turning in the purple thingies in Shellwood.
Another good one you get from Weavenest Atla east of the Moss Grotto.

>>719994410
The one sold by the merchant? Yeah true it's good but it's not that exciting... I haven't used it at all.

>>719994438
congrats anon

>>719994458
Quick cheat code for him: Use the drill tool and hold the input when he is tornadoing past you.

>>719994568
>its not exciting
... i dont know what youre expecting anon. Go hunt crests and weapons then, charms arnt going to change your playstyle

fuck whoever designed this dogshit unending gauntlet

>>719995025
Use weapons and magic

>>719994438
I hope to one day know that feel, anon. Good job.

>>719962741
Sekiro had a similar system, and it was only a 10% upcharge.

>>719992458
Im retarded cuz i keep forgeting they have a wide hitbox when they come down

>>719993053
I count 63 hits + 3 spears.

>>719992638
Doe this game even have a NG+?