Thread 720001213

So what was your breaking point. When you stopped playing or uninstalled? For me it was the gauntlet of bird enemies. I realized I wasn’t having fun at all.

>>720001213 (OP)
>WAH!!! WAHH!!! I'M A FILTERED RETARD!!! WAHHHH!!!
ok

>>720001865
>!!!
yikes

>>720001865
>f-f-f-f-filtered
People are no longer entitled to just dislike something?

Why are there birds in Hollow Knight anyway? I thought it was supposed to be about bugs. Seems lazy to abandon that theme for a dumb-looking bird enemy

>>720001213 (OP)
I beat mosswing after probably 15th time, reached this place just after with lots of bells and had an overwhelming feeling of I cba to keep feeling that stressed over a game. Then I saw some clips of later boss battles and immediately uninstalled.

Filtered

>>720001213 (OP)
You're talking about a second, actually hard gauntlet after the one on top of all the nests, right?
The spike trap + poison eats those crow niggas up

>>720001213 (OP)
I'm not completely done yet, but it was frustrating to lose 400 and then 200 rosaries because I didn't get the cocoon back before being killed again

>>720002272
It's for the heckin' cinematic slow-burn spine-tingling genre-defining Fromsoft ***VIBE***, my good nigga.

>>720001865
You cultists are so obnoxious
>EVERYONE MUST LIKE MY ZOOMER NORMALFAG GAME OR ELSE!!!
I bet most of you bought this because of FOMO. Fucking zombies.

>>720002272
They're not really birds per se just flying bugs meant to emulate them

>>720005034
losing rosaries feels sooooooo much worse in this game than losing even 10x the Geo. It's infurating.

If you're stuck trying to get based the big red guy that's blocking the exist out of the Marrow, run back near the exist of the room and wait for him to follow you there, from there, he's super easy

>>720005934
you gotta run down under him and grab the dash so you can dash in and out of his attack+go under him when he jumps

>>720006018
Dash?

Get good nigger

>>720005917
>>720005034
can you stop being bad please? Team cherry will nerf the game because of you now

>>720005752
That's retarded. They're flapping wings, losing feathers, and squawking with beaks. Even if they claim it's a bug, they clearly made no effort into having it be a part of the bug theme

The game's exploration is basically a gacha; you're gonna get shit 99% of the time. Biggest disappointment for me.

>>720001213 (OP)
The second Savage Beastfly fight is the only one I've given up on; I'll wait on the second weapon upgrade before I try it again. By far the worst fight in the game, and it's not helped that the fight is bugged (heh), it flies off-screen at times and that's unacceptable.

>>720001213 (OP)
get to t he top of this tower in greymoor, surely something cool
>consume the silkeater to retrieve a cocoon
fuck off

What's the story with people like OP? Did they just buy the game because of the internet hype? How do you not know what you're getting into when you buy the sequel to Hollow Knight?

>>720006131
good, bad design is bad design

>>720001213 (OP)
I got to the fat bell bitch I think it was right before you meet Lace. Walking speed was way too slow so I gave up there.

>>720006413
Widow.
Then I went to bed and beat her this morning.

>>720006391
What's the story with retards like you? We clearly had false expectations going into it, as can be seen by the people attacking those that say they wanted more HK/metroidvania instead of this. And no, we couldn't know what to expect because there were no previews.

>>720006078
he's real easy with this

>>720006413
There is a full on sprint when you use the dash fwiw. You get it very early.

>>720001213 (OP)
I realized this game was overhyped, and that’s why the Steam reviews tanked. I only enjoyed the memes and the hype around it, but I’ve come to see that the game itself isn’t good. Playing Silkflop isn’t fun anymore.

>>720001213 (OP)
If I was gonna get filtered it would have been beastfly.

>>720001213 (OP)
About an hour into Hollow Knight 1 when I started farming resources to buy a map and a map tracker passive. Didn't even die, just was bored out if my mind, and the game felt like ass to play.

>>720006131
good?? allow players to choose a normal difficulty mode when you load your save file.

>>720005917
my issue is you can die in a tough spot with tough enemies, and then what can you even do? you risk dying to the same enemies that killed you the first time? jesus christ

>>720007638
dark souls doesn't have difficulty settings and this game is dark souls metroidvania

>>720007731
and dark souls is overrated as fuck, make a new Tenchu game, remaster 3D Dot Heroes, make a new King's Field, something. stop copy pasting dark souls into existence.

>>720007702
that and if you do manage to get it or end up dying once again. the run to a bench or back is so fucking long

>>720007778
copying dark souls is the whole point of the hollow knight franchise

>>720006831
The reviews are only tanking because of Chinese trannylators, unironically

>>720007872
What did they do?

>>720001213 (OP)
idk for sure that I'll actually straight up drop the game, but the run back to the Last Judge in Blasted Steps. idk how many tries the boss would take me, I only tried twice, but it's just a pain in the ass.
>>720001865
What a pathetic reply.

>>720001213 (OP)
im getting close to it fighting gauntlet of bugs in hunters march

>>720005917
Because rosaries are so much more important in this game than geo was in the previous game. Items are expensive and you need a fuckton for the village donations which get more and more pricey as you go along.

>>720001865
Tryhardism just shows how insecure you are.

>>720006559
silksong is more hk/metroidvania, literally AND figuratively

>>720007825
>copying dark souls is the whole point of the hollow knight franchise
true, Silksong is their Dark Souls 2

>>720008074
yeah you need them for fucking everything

>>720001213 (OP)
Use your tools, it makes ads easy to dispose of. power upgrade for tools at the smithlady.

>>720001213 (OP)
this is just a typical whine thread, but so far in my playthrough, the bosses needed to be more meaningful.
In the first game, there was an inter-connecting story behind the boss fights if you payed close attention.

Here it just feels all dislocated.
In the first game, you fought hornet the second time for a reason, to get into the void pit and figure out more of the story.
The magi tower had a story behind it, leading to a story of bug genocide which tied to the overall game's background.
Here, so far in my playthrough, you just fight a boss and move on to another location.

>>720006131
You know it will happen, it always happens. This is the reason I already preemptively pirated this game before it's replaced by the inevitable nerfed version. I wasn't planning on playing it now but I don't want to play the easy version later on because a bunch of shitters thought it was too hard.

>>720001213 (OP)
i'm still playing,
the ant area is terrible, no where near fast travel and terrible bosses, thought it couldn't get worse and then i've just finished up bilewater and it is one of the worst areas in a metroidvania I have ever played, I didn't have fun through any of it.

>>720008409
>dark souls 2 gets shat on for being hard for the sake of hard
>it's the easiest souls game
how did this even happen, you fags are retarded

The fucking Beastfly fights test my patience. Keep spawning non-stop adds and almost always at least one of the big fuckers on screen at a time. Never felt like I was getting better instead I'm just hoping the RNG doesn't screw me.

>>720001213 (OP)
Pic related almost made me uninstall. But now I'm at Widow. "Beat" her twice, but got BTFO by the comeback. She takes a LOT of hits to die, even if you spam knives non-stop. IDK, I might actually just never return to the game. I'm not a die-hard HK fan (never bothered with the pantheons), why am I torturing myself like this, I'm clearly not having any fun and always dreading the next boss or gauntlet.

>>720001213 (OP)
>he was filtered by the birds
lmao why are faggots here so bad? Go play Animal Crossing or something

>>720009643
>Dark Souls 2 was bad because hard
it's was bad because it was worse in every aspect
>shit map
>changes to rolling
>difficulty comes from spamming enemies
>long runbacks
all things Silksong suffers from, plus they added retarded currency grind and increased the difficulty by giving everything double damage and double hp.

Silksong is Hollow Knight's Dark Souls 2.

>>720006131
>Nerf the game
Good. Shit design should go
>B-but its a souls like
Soul games got nerfs too

>>720009871
Happens with every overhyped game, just not quite going like this one is. You think a game will be a 10 out of 10, then there's just an enormous amount of issues that stack up and rob you of entertainment.

>>720006391
>Sequel
Anon...

>>720001213 (OP)
The Bell Beast.

My backlog is too big and I'd rather be having fun. I like Shakra a lot, though. I understand why this series has so much fanart now. I may come back to this but it will be every once in a while. It took me two years to finish the original Hollow Knight.

>>720009119
>payed
ESL retard post disregarded

>>720010440
Absolutely. I said before launch there's no way it could ever live up to the amount of hype expected of the game. I'm always right

>>720001213 (OP)
bird gauntlet was easy, did it on the second try. Now Moorwing, that fat fuck, felt like it had infinite health. Anyhow, I still haven't gotten far in enough to fully judge the game.

I'm genuinely convinced everyone just sucks ass at videogames now. I just finished act 1 and the most times I died was 8 times to Last Judge. I saw people complain about the runback to that boss but it's trivially easy to do it in 30 seconds without getting hit. Feels like I'm playing a different game compared to everyone else.

The one thing I don't like is that everything is so expensive and currency is so rare. That fly boss that spawns minions was also just boring and annoying even if I only died to it 4 times

>>720012091
All achievements past the Last Judge are sub-10% on Steam, meaning they're glowing golden achievements meant for rare and difficult fits. The vast majority of people who bought this game won't be able to finish it.

It's the perfect difficulty for me so far, haven't finished act 1 yet but much better pacing than HK

>>720012091
>>720012713
the difficulty is completely fucked up, idk who you're trying to fool. Steam has stats for who 112% the original Hollow Knight, snot many

>>720001213 (OP)
Played Hollow Knight a few years ago for 20 mins. Uninstalled and refunded. The movement and combat was dogshit.

>>720001865
fpbp just look at all those seething replies

>>720012923
>the difficulty is completely fucked up, idk who you're trying to fool
have you tried not being shit?

When I realized Act 2 wasn’t gonna be set in Hallownest and they weren’t gonna follow up on the Hollow Knight being freed from the Black Egg

That's why I don't play games day one, no matter how cheap they are or how much quality people expect.

I just finished Hollow Knight and had a good time, it was an already balanced experience. I will wait for Silksong to release all its DLCs

>>720013190
try again shitter

I refuse to believe the complaints aren't shitposting. It's really not that difficult.

>>720013261
>caring about the lore in an action game
lmaoooo

>>720013339
WELL IF THEY DIDN’T WANT ME TO CARE ABOUT THE LORE THEN THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE LEFT ME WITH A CLIFFHANGER FOR THE PAST 7 YEARS

>>720010440
I don't know, the honeymoon period for this one lasted for like a day, I'm surprised how fast people are shitting on it

>>720006086
i'm glad i skipped the normal encounter of this guy on accident
took a bunch of attempts even with the second damage upgrade.

>>720006273
just silkspear the adds as they spawn, or use your tools to quickly kill them if you miss/when 2 spawn at once.

>>720013403
To be fair they were waiting for seven years. That's a long time to hold that shit in.

>>720006329
they are renewable later (at a somewhat slow pace) so you should be using them a good amount

>>720001213 (OP)
When I got to the Citadel and realized every bench is going to be pay per use from now on I closed the game. What the fuck is TC's problem.

I miss charms

>>720010217
putting a cap on rollspammers was good. rollspamming is retarded

>>720013403
nta but i'm starting to like the game more as i get better
i'm really into it now

Is there anything important in Wormways? Seems to be a skippable area.

>>720013598
get out of the wage slave basement dumbass

>>720001213 (OP)
>the game is fun.
>the game is a battle.
>if it's not fun, why bother?
Okay maybe that guy had a point

>>720013598
It's like they took every opportunity to make the game tedious as fuck.

Simple yes or no; is the Apostate Key in The Slab?

Does your dash ever get an i-frame in Silk Song like it does in base game?

>>720013650
the better you get the harder it gets in a continuous painful loop

>>720013772
Yeah no

>>720001213 (OP)
skill issue

>>720013657
There's a Weaver Door and Mr. Lifeblood

>>720001213 (OP)
Stopped playing after someone wouldn't shut up about the ending. I had no issues with the difficulty. Just the diagonal pogo tripping me up once in a while

>Install a mod that skips bossruns
>Game is now enjoyable
I highly dislike the "bosses" in this game. Most of the time its just a fuckton of flying adds doing AOE moves. And the rewards? Heres 120 fucking shitnuggets lmao

Please saars I need help with Widow

>>720014003
Dodge until downwards slam for easymode

>>720014003
dont walk into attacks
also the angled bells bounce at a slightly unintuitive angle so make sure you dont misjudge your position

When you get the second nail upgrade, Does it actually increase damage a significant amount?

>>720013961
same, game is really good but the bosses are the worst part, shame they felt the need to add so many

>>720006086

I was getting pretty frustrated with this guy but beat him on probably the 6th attempt once I got the hang of his saw blades and how they spin back around

>>720013650
this, I've liked more and more, although part of that certainly has been switching to the reaper crest

>>720001213 (OP)
silksong feels like a very unforgiving and punishing retro game like the first few castlevanias and ghost n goblins.
the movement and platforming has a rain world-ish slow turn rate feel, and the checkpoint placement is very reminiscent of the old souls games.
I really like the game, it feels like a reactionary response to how games have become casualized and is a throwback to the roots of the genre.

It will likely throw off fans of the original HK since it's quite different gameplay wise

>>720001865
if you said shaw instead of wah this would've gotten triple the replies

>>720014118
You 2 hit the little rats.
No other difference lmao

>>720014272
for me, it's the Wanderer Crest. attack speed and a good downwards aerial attack are all I need. the default divekick fucking sucks and I refuse to use it until they buff its hitbox, duration, and frame data. seriously, did they expect you to use that crap to platform all the way through the game?

>>720014335
Wait really? What the fuck?! The final nail level 3 is that bad?!

>>720014003
Pogo off the bell ground spike attack and widow when they slash and run forward

>>720005034
there's a mechanic that gives you things to get coccoons back but it's at the end of a huge and difficult area with no nearby bell stations

>>720001213 (OP)
After beating the savage beastfly and feeling nothing. Made my way up to greymoor or whatever and realized I haven't experienced the same joy or satisfaction I get from progressing through other challenging games. Bought into the hype and fomo because I'm retarded. It's a sequel that wasn't focused on bringing new mechanics to the equation but just making it more "challenging" with a bevy of inconveniences. Maybe hire some more people to help out next time.

>>720014369
Dont want to make things too easy now do we?

just pogo jump with unresponsive controls over to the ant room where mobs zergrape you in a fashion not seen since the final stage of hall of champions in hk

>>720006086
I hope you know you can get help in this battle.

>>720002272
The barkeep of the halfway home tells you they were being grown for food before the haunting and now the food has gone feral.

>>720006086
Beat him with the base nail. Crazy ass fight.

>>720006559
Please tell us in your own word how does silksong isn't HK/metroidvania.

>>720006086
The only thing bad about him is the fucking ridiculous runback. Anyways it's not too bad if you get the help.

>>720005917
You realize you can string them up in your inventory and never lose them at all right you moron?
Game gives you pathetic cowards options if you're scared.

>>720013637
>putting a cap on rollspammers was good
Dark souls 2 didn't put a cap on rolling thoughbeit, just tied the I-frames of the roll to the agility stat. Maybe you shouldn't comment about games you've never played?

>>720014909
he's like Soul Masters evil rapey twin
obviously not the same degree of difficulty but seeing as he's one of the first fucking bosses
I don't know why I thought SS would have a slow increase in boss difficulty
What is telegraphed is nigh impossible to dodge and the rest are basically almost random attacks
I beat niggerwing after about 8 tries, the gauntlets are worse though

Ok shills, explain to us all how rosaries improve the game and aren’t useless padding

>>720015154
It's exactly the same as the currency in normal Hollow Knight.

>>720001213 (OP)
>For me it was the gauntlet of bird enemies
Same.
It's like the devs didn't understand what people liked about Hollow Knight and decided to make it a tryhard souls game instead of focusing on the atmosphere and exploration.

>>720015220
Which was also padding except it’s worse here

>>720014003
They're tall enough that you can hit with a quick attack out of a dash (with Hunter). Just do that and dodge the bells.

>>720015220
except only a third of enemies drop them. makes fighting the random animals feel lame in comparison

>>720015228
I thought EVERYONE loved gauntlets and tracking multiple concurrent attack patterns and projectiles at the same time!

>>720014003
use Wanderer Crest and just mow her down with a thousand cuts

>>720001213 (OP)
>gauntlet of bird enemies
Thank god I wasn't the one. Those fuck-ass birds are the bane of my existence.

what pisses me off is that most of the bosses don't drop dick. not money, not power-ups, not collectables, fucking nothing

>>720007973
an awful job, and that's not just a meme it's fucking tragic, like completely ruining the mood by combining old style language with modern slang

>>720006086
I died like 5 times to him but I think it's a fair fight (the run back fucking sucks). The most annoying part was getting used to the second phase because he starts using a saw immediately after he rushes into you, and I always died thinking it was safe to heal.

>>720015454
are we talking the scissor cunts or the fat faggots with the aspid attack?

>>720015497
exactly, you just beat them to fucking progress. difficulty goes up, skillset stays the same. they saw those niggerfaggots doing playthroughs on no charms and decided everyone has to for the entire first act

>no wind streams anywhere before Far Fields
Shit design

>>720002229
>WAHHH I SUCK AT DRAWING! ALL I CAN MAKE ARE SHITTY STICK FIGURES!
there's a difference between disliking something because it is shit and disliking something because you are shit at it. game journos are not taken seriously for a reason

>>720015540
you can get help during the fight lol
also the raised platform on the right next to the water soaks up much of his wind attacks
for a lot of bosses in this game compared to the last youre actually encouraged to keep distance
since hornet is so fucking fast you can dodge most attacks by running offscreen and then sprinting and dashing back for a quick stab

>>720001213 (OP)
>Skill issues, the thread.

>>720015154
Being able to die is padding

>>720013261
I don’t get it. Were they just BSing us?

i dont mind the difficulty as a gaming experience but i kind of miss the more laid back hollow knight pacing. it let me immerse myself more into the game world and really made a lot of areas stick into my head years after i played it. this feels better to play and is more challenging as a game but the difficulty means im always on guard and always hyperaware that im playing a hardcore game and not exploring a world. i think the increased movement options will make it more difficult to go back to HK but im not sure anything from this will really stick in my head 6 months from now because im always just in fight or flight pro gamer mode and never just taking in the setpieces and atmosphere they worked on.

>>720001213 (OP)
git gud

>>720013261
anon you're gonna be spoiled.

>>720016086
Yeah, I basically don't care about the story
>woah, yet another fallen kingdom and the survivors are going cuh-razy?
Worse yet, all the areas kinda blur together, there's nothing like Greenpath, City of Tears, Kingdom's Edge, Crystal Peak etc.

>>720001865
>plebbitors destroyed in one reply

>>720015768
I got the dude into the fight but he didn't seem to do anything useful other than block an attack that never hit me.
>youre actually encouraged to keep distance
On this fight I realized this when he was cornering me on the left size of the arena, the run skill was a really good addition and made this fight more fun.

>>720016086
there's not enough scenic sets or interactable characters
it's like revisiting Narnia. the spirit of adventure is gone and all that's left is bitter fighting

>>720001213 (OP)
Birds genuinely were not that bad. I have a harder time with the ants. I don't understand why dying in a game upsets people so much, I died a ton in HK and still had fun and finished it and I'm having fun in this while also getting my ass thoroughly kicked.

>>720016346
the wind attacks become extremely trivial once you just run away, which is also why the gauntlet sucks fucking dick

>Can run out of tools if you get stuck on boss
>have to go farm to get more
I thought we all worked out this was a shit mechanic in Sekiro? Why you don't just replenish to full at a bench and have to drain a resource is beyond me.

>>720001213 (OP)
The High Halls? What a crock of shit. And then ending with that gauntlet that just went on forever and ended with two enemies that took up 40% of the room? Nah. I'm fucking good. I got other games to play without hating myself.

>>720016412
the ants are horrible because getting there already sucks the life out of me

>>720006086
>>720001213 (OP)
so this game is actually challenging?
How difficult is it compared to 9 SOLS?

I didn't realize the bird gauntlet was considered so hard. I think I died on it once? Just spam the spike traps on the last wave.

>>720016450
>spams tools every attempt hoping to out DPS a boss
actual fucking retard

use them only once you're familiar with the boss's moveset

>>720016496
I just don't understand that mentality. I mean I think I'm shit, I know I died hundreds if not thousands of times in HK and I still liked it and finished it. Why does dying make ppl so upset?

>>720016545
ppl don't use the traps/skills. like HK they want to just use the nail and only heal, I think Team Cherry designed this game the way they did to force you to use the other tools/skills and instead morons are just bashing their heads against the wall and complaining.

>>720016589
because you either
a) give it your all, lose grip and get fucking assraped which makes you lose hope
b) you arrive tattered, blunder on the first stage (even worse if you've gotten close to winning before) and are left feeling like a pathetic fucking slob excuse of a human

I liked the tsundere boss. Just died to beastfly for the 30th time in a row almost punched the monitor. Ill beat him tomorrow.

Fair Fields is a cool little area

>>720001213 (OP)
you constantly think you're in a bad area and the ones after have to be better but it just keeps getting worse and worse

>>720012091
Same here. I only just beat the bird boss in Greymoor but I had read a lot about how terrible it was. I beat him on the 4th or 5th try, he was like a mid level HK boss like Soul Master but hit harder, and the runback was similar too. So far I havent experienced anything to indicate the amount of seethe the game is generating, and I really hope the devs dont listen to it.

>>720016589
HK also had exploration and a better atmosphere. It also didn't throw as much shit at you as possible to forcibly ass rape you and gave you multiple ways to handle fights.

>>720016723
I think I just don't get that emotionally invested in it. It took me like 10 trys I think just now to do the bird cage and I never felt upset about it like I would not say it was a frustrating experience.

>>720016581
>anon's proposed solution to the problem is le not use da tools
Big brain move.

>>720017109
thats all very subjective anon.
>>720017097
the bird boss took me more trys than that but I agree I wouldn't say he was particularly hard and very much felt like a mid lvl HK boss.
I'm convinced a lot of this seethe is coming from people who don't normally play difficult games but wanted to try this because of the hype, now they're mad they can't beat it.

>>720017129
you have to be ragebaiting

Hornets mobility is very satisfying but i miss this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe

The game sucks. Same old shit. Flash game garbage. Tries to be deep and its about as deep as the shit form my asshole. Fuck off anyone enjoying rhis, I wish ai could poo on your mouth

>>720017348
I am not.

>>720001213 (OP)
i was gonna try since its on gamepass but seeing all the platforming shit on tiktok makes me pass

>>720017295
>>720017129
It's spelled "tries", Rajesh.

Yeah Im nlt liking it. Its so hard. It looks shitty, the lines are too thick. Refunded. Ill wait for Mavrel Rivals

Anybody find the flea pervert? He invites you to a spa, then creeps on you. See pic.

>>720017214
Save them for the hard parts like the last phase on Widow etc. Don't spam them mindlessly, you'll just run out.

So am I supposed to have double jump when fighting the last judge? The charge attack feels really awkward to avoid if I'm caught at the wrong distance.

>>720017549
wait for it? its been ou-wait. you don't mean a port do you ...?

>>720017584
You know you can float, right?

>Hornet's an even bigger freak of nature than the Knight
What the fuck

>>720017554
>Just save them
It's the same problem as Sekiro; you're forced to restrict yourselves and use less of your moveset. It doesn't make the game more balanced, because they already hardcap the amount you carry on you at any one moment. It just seems you've got a less interesting moveset 90% of the time.

>>720017948
you're right anon I don't want to be restricted! just let me do anything all the time! and I should never die either! games are supposed to be fun!

>>720017948
Full disclosure, I'm not a fan of this system either, but we gotta play the cards we were dealt, right? If you just spam the tools constantly on any mildly challenging enemy, you won't have them when you truly need them like during an annoying phase of some boss.

>>720018084
Sure, the work around is obvious. It's frustrating though. And the fact that there's bootlickers who will defend the system means that chances are Cherry will use it in their next game (releasing in 10 years time).

>>720018048
>and I should never die either!
Funny that your only way to address his completely valid argument is by exaggerating it.

>>720018248
well where do you draw the line anon? I mean you complain about being restricted but if there are no restrictions there's literally no game.

Hornet likes fluffy things

>>720018298
god, the fonts are so terrible in this game, what were they thinking

>>720018297
>there are no restrictions
Anon...there's already restrictions. They literally cap the number of tools you can carry at any one moment.

>>720018297
You are already restricted by max uses and having to get tools in the first place, plus the rosaries to get upgrades for them.

>>720018643
oof i think u need to work on ur reading comprehension I'm afraid bud

>>720016330
and every zone had a meaningful impact on the story in HK. Every little map design had some underlying story to the overall game.
I don't feel the same, so far, in SS. Though I'm still in Act 1 rn.

>>720016330
>>720018923
yeah the zones in this one are pretty forgettable. they must have blown their load in Hollow Knight and couldn't think of more cool locales. though maybe I'll change my mind by endgame

>>720001865
here we go again

im still going, just wrapped this up last session

>>720001213 (OP)
It's not that bad but when do I get a fucking needle upgrade? Everything taking a minimum of 4 hits, even the scrub enemies, gets old real fast.

>>720019005
>>720018923
the bell one is the only one with a story that interested me thus far

>>720001213 (OP)
it was when I got eepy a few minutes ago. will continue playing tomorrow morning after a good night’s sleep

>>720019108
>he thinks the needle upgrades will change that
HAHAHA

>>720016030
No just shitty run backs

>>720006086
You can run away and just cheese him from the tornado.

>>720001213 (OP)
does upgrading your weapon change its appearance or its just changing a 1 for a 2 in a game.data shit

>>720019108
havent you heard, inflating enemy health is good game design

>>720019234
haven't gotten it yet, but in HK it just changed the in menu image.

>>720001982
>>720005620
>>720007995
>>720008132
Which tranny discord raid is it this time

>>720001213 (OP)
I've played for 12 hours and have not hit a breaking point. The game is constantly teaching me how to play it through simple environmental and encounter design, it's master class in ludo

The game is probably harder because, as a sequel to Hollow Knight, of course it would just continue to get harder, it's the next game, the next level of the hollow knight series

good on team cherry for making an actual sequel to a video game for once, industry first

Fuck estrogensong and this entire gay reddit franchise. Man, what a cancerous release. Why cant normgroids play their fotm shit without infesting everywhere like literal aids? Go circlejerk on reddit with the rest of the plebs you faggots

>>720019391
>it kept the difficulty from the end of the last game
>even though the new one has an entirely new move set and mechanics
>this is a good sequel
Are you a fucking idiot or something?

>>720019478
>t. filtered by moorwing

>>720001213 (OP)
I was at the desert area and I died after I killed the drill bugs boss, after seeing the runback I needed to do to get my beads back I just quit the game, I will probably get back to it later though.

>>720019391
They overtuned the difficulty because the game is too short and they had to artificially pad the length instead of adding more things to explore.

I actually enjoy a lot of the bosses anons have complained about, like the moth guy in greymoor or the girl looking thing that throws vines at you and summons friends.

But the mechanics of the world are just so fucking tedious. Paying for save spots. Rosaries being scarce and needed for fucking everything. The side quests being long winded fetch quests or where's Waldo adventures only for a shit reward. I don't mind the challenge. I'm really, really starting to get sick of the fucking tedium though. I made it 30 hours into Death Stranding 2 before I couldn't handle how fucking monotonous and lame it was anymore, and I'm starting to feel that same annoyance with SS. Game is good but it's like TC went out of their way just to waste your time with constant small stupid bullshit.

>>720019484
filtered cant believe it

The runback to Last Judge is unacceptable. Why is there that much dangerous platforming between the bench and the boss?

Why are three quarters of the active threads on /v/ right now about this indieslop? Can't you keep it in one fucking thread holy shit.

>>720019580
Rote response, unimpressed

you guys have nail upgrades?

>>720019597
it wants you to lose all your rosaries so it can fuck with you in the next part of "lol you're poor"

>>720019659
Too late, I already gave myself thousands of rosaries with cheat engine

>>720019691
sure if you valid-cheated or grinded then there's no good reason for it

the schadenfreude i feel knowing that 90% of r/silksong retards will literally not have the motor skills to beat some of these cancer areas, random path of pain tier platforming for the main story lmao

game is kino

its a shame that cherry will end up pandering to these losers who think a boss is supposed to be a normal enemy with just a little more health

>>720019634
I'm a good chunk into act 2 and I haven't seen a nail upgrade yet

>>720012091
> Everyone was complaining about moorwing.
First tried it
> Everyone was complaining about Widow
3 tries
> Everyone was complaining about last judge
6 tries

Are people this bad at videogames now?

>>720015089
that's pussy shit. i'm gonna lose my rosaries and then complain about it and there's nothing you can do to stop me bitch

>>720019812
ok

>>720019812
same experience so far for me too.
I was seeing people complaining about the divekick pogo too
I tried it out and had absolutely no issue.

PLEASE explain to me how a boss dealing 2 masks of health and overall increased difficulty in the entire design of the game is a good thing aside from boasting about it on reddit?

>>720019659
I gotta say, the reveal of the Grand Gate and the area within was seriously dampened by the fact that I had to backtrack to the previous area to grind out rosaries on the same faggots that stole my rosaries on the runback to Last Judge.

>>720016529
Nine sols isn't really that hard outside of Eigong

>>720001213 (OP)
i endured it but im at the point of stopping in act 2.
just bullshit after bullshit.
if you played vulgar the viking its almost the same shit. 5-6 masks doesn't matter, you take 3 hits you're dead.
even quicker if you get fucked by hitboxes into body hits because invulnerability frames are like .5 seconds.

people waited 7 years for a hollowknight sequel that starts up just where the hard dogshit dlc ended but you get less tools
who asked for this? now your gay little niche series is hardly a metroidvania anymore

>>720019905
It forces you to learn the boss instead of brute forcing through the damage they deal. A lot of HK's combat had the small drawback that once you were powerful enough, you really didn't need to learn boss patterns. You could just spam the nail/magic and tank the damage and you'd be fine. I kinda prefer this approach.

it's actually so fucking funny how many /v/irgins are filtered by this game. it's not so bad. just respect the boss silly. that's literally it. use your tools.

>>720019905
I'm fine with the damage, what pisses me off is the contact damage and things like dark areas with hidden traps/enemies

>>720014909
is this a fuckin brag? lmao so did everyone else who fought him.

>>720020014
>use your tools.

Fucking this. A lot of anons are probably sleeping on the traps and that juice that gives you faster movement/attack speed because they don't realize how powerful they are.. These bastards saved me many hours bashing my head against brick walls. One well placed trap can hit the boss 4 or 5 times.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnRhjwpqZzU
No wonder retards complain about difficulty when this is how they play lmao
Literally just unga bunga mash attack and heal until you get lucky and win

>>720018454
It's just you.

THE BOSS VARIANT HAS TOO MUCH HEALTH

>>720006391
>>720006559
>first game heavy metroidvania with a linear progression and ramp up in difficulty
>second game throws that out the window because the retarded devs have tranny playerbase that eat LE HARD speedrunner slop

whoever playtested this is going to kill themselves in a few years anyway. took them long enough for the sequel to come out that they didn't realize people would get tired of this type of bullshit game design.

I will not play trannysong

>>720020071
id like to see a video of groak beaten without tools. probably doesn't (and shouldn't) exist.

>>720015765
I reached and beat the last judge in around 7-8 hours and uninstalled it, the game is a bit challenging but definitely not difficult. But the world, music and ambience are a downgrade over HK and the runback to bosses is tedious for no reason

>>720006086
you can perma stun him if you trigger a fall here

>>720020081
fought this dude today, one-shot, pretty fun

Retards, if its too hard then install some mods. I just reached widow and it was that bad.
>just cheat
Yeah nigga just cheat, fuck the devs vision, you're supposed to be having fun, lower the difficulty. There's a mod that makes all enemy do 1 mask of damage instead of 2.
I'm having fun so far but fuck having to spend money to fucking save or having to spend it in maps and transport instead of cool weapons and upgrades. Gonna cheat engine some gorillion beads

>>720019905
I can boast about it on /v/ too

never played a metroidvania where i dont gain more power as i go and can die easily in almost every room.
usually when i find a secret i get an energy tank or something but in this i get $5.

the first game wasn't like this, right?

>dps increase mechanic locked behind shity hunter crest with shity pogo

i still wont use it. fuck off

>>720020109
>AAAAHHH IT'S CHARGING ME AND IF IT HITS ME I'LL TAKE TWO MASKS OF DAMAGE WHAT DO I DOOOOOOOOO
My honest reaction

>>720013535
imagine waiting for dark souls 2 if it never came out, took 7 years, and they gave you sekiro.

>>720015119
it also made spamming roll take increasingly more stamina

>>720012091
>died 8 times to lost judge
and you're sayin everyone just sucks at videogames lmao

did /v/ get soft? did the industry create easy times?

>>720015154
umm just use cheat engine if you wanna keep being a casual

>>720001865
FPBP

Watching secondaries get filtered is making me like the game even more, after waiting so long everybody got the Silksong they deserved

>>720020221
that's rebound moorwing after you skipped him though, by that point you're stronger as well.

>>720013302
yeah games full of too much tedious dogshit workin against you for you to have a good experience all the way through
the fact they didn't have review copies shoulda said something. they probably had a tight knight tranny grouptesters who do speedruns of the first game on the hardest difficulty bullshit to greenlight it in its current state.

>>720020494
did you become a cocksucker? did someone pozload your neghole?

>>720020327
Sorta the vast majority of common enemies aren't much of a threat in the first game anyways especially after nail upgrades.

>>720020327
The first game had new areas locked behind movement upgrades, it also had crystal heart/rocket dash which was fun.
So far none of the movement upgrades I got in SS were that fun or above basic bitch tier.
Silksong just fakes metroidvania progression by making you go back to collect 12 boar asses in old areas or to buy shit from vendors you were too poor to afford.
Killing bosses also felt more rewarding in HK. Nail upgrades felt like actual upgrades, there were way more mask pieces and charms had synergy between each other and actually gave you new ways to play.

>>720013772
no

>>720020532
>by that point you're stronger as well.
lmfao.
no.

>>720014235
this and challenge rooms
double with shit runs to said boss rooms or challenge rooms

triple if they are flying

>>720020585
>crystal heart/rocket dash
>fun
you could hardlly use it outside of where its mandatory because you stop at rither a step, enemy or a wall. swift step/the vine boom float is way better as an upgrade.

>>720006086
People are struggling with this guy? I beat him 2nd try with no upgrades meanwhile I got filtered by the hunters march and the beastfly

>>720001865
You're becoming the new Undertale fanbase

>>720020712
You mean Dark Souls, right? There is actually nothing HK fans can do to become UT level. Not enough furry autism.

>>720001213 (OP)
Gauntlet of bird enemies was the last time I had fun. Act 1s end is awful. From best to worst the mist, beast addslop boss, judge runback, sinners path. I almost quit but glad I pushed on as Act 2 is much better.

>>720001213 (OP)
I've never been on the gud side of a great filter before. How are you dying to the birds? It's not that hard lol

>>720006086
Easiest boss in the game, just collect fleas...

>>720019391
name 3 other games that have the sequel leave off the same difficulty as the last games endgame with less tools
ill wait

>>720020815
don't you miss a boss if you collect fleas

>>720020585
>>720020570
yeah figured. i feel like i got tricked with this sequel. maybe i shoulda just played hollow knight 1.

>>720002229
You’re allowed to dislike it for reasons other than it being hard. A game being too hard is not a valid criticism.

>>720012923
3%, I couldn't believe how low all the awards are. Only 2/3rds beat the first boss.

>>720002272
Their mosquitos in cloaks duh.

>>720019757
help a nigga out, what do I do with all the music shit up there?

>>720020872
yeah, its that boss.

>>720015154
Rosaries are the only valid criticism of the game.

>>720001213 (OP)
This just happened to me, and it made me not want to play for the rest of the day:
https://youtube.com/shorts/S5kxdq4rApg?si=1FU1R3qjH8KwEwuG

>>720014003
Slow and steady. Find the spots where you cant get hit in stage 3, than rarely leave them for a swipe and run back. Greed kills.

>>720016061
DLC

>several threads up whining about how Silksong is too hard
>make a 1 thread making fun of people getting filtered by Silksong
>gets deleted straight away
>multiple loli hentai and blacked porn threads still up on the catalog
Thanks for letting us know you got filtered by Silksong tranny janny, maybe try being less shit at the game

beat lost judge. in act 2.
in the underway
this shits rough bros and i have to do this shithole to get outta here huh?

>>720015089
Oh sure, that'll be 80 beads to save your 20 beads, thanks!

I can't play this crap until they add SHAW, HEGALE, EDEEMA back. Giving a negative review until then.

>>720014432
See >>720020759

>>720021014
well, lack of proper rewards for bosses too but i think everyones still in the honeymoon phase and tryin to feel special for beating the game that doesn't respect their time like its a badge of honor

reminds me of radahn and when that got patched.

>>720020759
>I almost quit but glad I pushed on as Act 2 is much better.
thats where i am>>720021078
i gave up at the challenge room with the steam doors. will play more later but im just fatigued after tryin to beat judge all night

>>720001213 (OP)
I've raged a few times and come to the terrifying realization that I've started to sound like DSP.
I think my biggest issue so far is that I've gone through lots of areas and found several secrets yet I hardly feel like I'm progressing.

>>720016330
Thats a really good point. Less build variety and level variety. I forgot how original Crystal peak was.

>>720016581
Town donations show who the real rerard is.

>>720021129
Doesn’t really bother me as you find lots via exploration. I don’t really get people complaining about the lack of abilities I’ve found heaps.

>>720006086
Took me about three tries without any weapon upgrades. I think /v/ is just filled with utter shitters.
>>720020706
Beastfly’s only real issue is being at the far end of a map without any benches so you have to make a full trek every attempt. Making him smash the adds is funny.

>>720016701
>Wants you to use tools
>makes them a limited item you need to farm after every town donation.
Yea, no thanks.

It seems like I'm one of the few that isn't so skilled, but still enjoys the challenge. It makes the successes all the more rewarding. My biggest complaint is that the TC dropped the ball on lore and set-building. All the text excerpts are tropey Zanzibar stanzas, that which I don't remember being so hoity-toity in the first game. The visual storytelling is really weak, too. There aren't really any City of Tears moments. But I haven't gotten to the Citadel yet, so maybe I will be surprised.

>find silk you have to break right after silk spear and trapping the bell beast
>never appears again
kek

>>720020528
>all the filtered retards are redditors who are shit at games

>>720016789
You have to get good at getting him to hit his allies. That and poisoned tools attacks.

>>720021349
>Beastfly’s only real issue is being at the far end of a map without any benches so you have to make a full trek every attempt
There's a bench right nearby, it's like a 30 second runback to the beasts den

>>720016789
I unlocked wanderer's crest before bumping into her and knocker her straight into the lava because I was slapping her so hard and fast. I couldn't get it to repeat though no matter how aggressive I was with swipes.

>>720021397
It is literally this, a bunch of redditors astroturfed this games hype then got filtered when the game actually turned out to be incredible

>>720019757
match them, start with bottom two and work your way up itll make sense once you get one

>>720021426
I think people mentally over-estimate how long runbacks take. Like, the runback to Last Judge takes like 1 minute tops if you just jump over the hammer guys and bugs but niggas act like it took 10 minutes

>>720001213 (OP)
>>720001865
This is honestly hilarious to me when Hollow Knight fans were pretending to be super hardcore

>>720021375
tools on paper are nice but yeah, they only seem very fuckin strong in retrospect when you have already beat a boss or area that its good on.

too much risk, less reward because most of the time you dont get shit to make up for all the bones you just waste even if you defeat em.

>>720019757
You sound happy and mentally well.

Every single fucking time. They have me trained, I don't ever free fall. I slide down the walls anticipating it and the spikes are often times there.

>>720021470
wow the sequel to a game they liked is actually not like the first game at all
is your life this empty that being good at a random niche game makes you feel whole?

>>720021426
Where? Maybe it needs something I don’t have yet.

>>720021480
>>720020987

What do we think about the Beast crest? Its down-attack seems like a death-trap, with the amount of platforming in the game. I've gotten good use out of all the others, especially the reaper crest, but the beast one seems like hard-mode. Maybe it's more situational?

>>720020239
This, except Im on a PS5 : (
Definitely my last system.

how the fuck do you do this? this is the first fight that feels legitimately unfair

>>720021630
Seems like a good weapon for NG+ or speedruns but it seems just way worse for anyone playing the game for the first time, which right now is pretty much everyone.
Not being able to heal easily is the biggest problem.

>>720021014
Worthless rewards for exploring and side quests too.

Curve Claw + Sting Shard + Pollip Pouch brings such crazy DPS for the overwhelming fights. If you're being mobbed by a dozen creatures or struggling with Widow 2nd phase, that combination really puts in the work.

>>720021375
You get so many godamn>>720019757
>its a shame that cherry will end up pandering to these losers who think a boss is supposed to be a normal enemy with just a little more health
What makes you think that? Team Cherry have been pretty good at not nerfing things despite how much people whine. Only example I can think of is when they nerfed collector+ in the final pantheon. Didn't they nerf OP spellbuilds too?

>>720021682
Imagine giving sony any money

>>720021770
Whoops, left another draft in by mistake. Uh ignore the first part

>>720021068
Blacked threads, gross! You should post them so I know what threads to avoid.

>>720006086
Nigger, I beat him on my third try.

lava savage beastfly railing me hard rn

>>720021607
Red pin is the beasts den and you can see the bench nearby, it's trapped at first so you have to go left and hit a switch to deactivate it

How did you guys unlock Act 3? A lot of you guys are shitting on people in the replies so I assume you guys beat the game.

>>720021975
Act 3? I'm on Act 4

>>720021698
get the two oils in the citadel to upgrade your needle

>>720021598
Hollow Knight is one of my all time favorite games and Silksong is everything I wanted from a sequel
>is your life this empty that being good at a random niche game makes you feel whole?
It's not niche at all thanks to secondaries like you providing infinite funds to Team Cherry to keep making more games I like that you will get filtered by and cry over, thanks loser

>>720021698
clear the adds before starting the phase.
they each only have two attacks, memorize them. use subweapons that can hit both, i used the harpoons and boomerangs.
their attacks are fiery, use the fire charm.
once one of them is down slow your pace.

>>720021426
I hit that fucking trap every time. You just go into auto pilot and are so used to it being safe with the map guy.

Muckroaches are a fucking scary enemy. I can only kill them by using soul attacks. Especially when there two attacking you at the same time.

>>720021770
Being able to beat a video game is all he has, let him have it

>temporary benches you have to pay for each time
okay, this is actually bullshit

>>720022064
late stage capitalism

>>720022064
you get lot cash in citadel to spend all kind of things

>people assmad about Savage Beastfly
>I beat it third try
I don't get what everyone was complaining about. His attack patterns are pretty basic. Sure there were adds but the boss often took them out in the process of attacking.

Any hints on where to find silver bells? I found the two above Bellhart, but apparently there's a cavern system, underneath? How does one access it? Is there a breakable wall in the bell beast station?

>>720021698
nvm beat it

>>720022008
HOLY FUCKIN SHILL LMFAO

are you one of the few tranny playtesters?

>>720022105
uh not in that fuckin area.
the enemies around that are low tier workers who take way too much hits to kill for pennies

>>720012091
Same. I'm waiting for this huge wall but I'm yet to find it. Longest I was stuck so far was Last Judge or Widow. Probably 10 attempts each but the fights are really fun and the right amount of frantic. The Judge runback isn't bad at all.

Is Ender Lilies good?

>>720022135
>are you one of the few tranny playtesters?
Yes, I told them to make rosaries more scarce and more enemies deal two masks so that you wouldn't be able to beat it

who are these people

>>720021975
>no one is at part 3
the state of this thread

>>720022229
all me using alt accounts. I told them to make all the boss fight runbacks longer and make all the bosses do double damage and thankfully they listened to my feedback

>>720022229
These are all white guy names??? How do they expect people to beat the game without diverse playtesters? Have they considered they should've hired retarded trannies from r/silksong who suck at video games that would tell them to make the game easier????

A big reason why people are having such a hard time with this game is because they're too scared to use their silk offensively. When you're in any of the group fights, use Thread Storm. It's the best on all of those obnoxious little flying fuckers giving you trouble.

>>720022306
I saw a Yong there.

>>720022313
its the damage issue. you take so much damage that spending silk doesn't look good option

>>720022306
ah makes sense now
one of the testers is a dev lmao
two are like pros
it all makes sense

>>720022360
They're even better at video games so the point still stands

>>720022313
RB is actually a really shit binding because it competes with the trigger which you use constantly
I should probably swap it with the top button

>>720022313
That's because you have to choose between using it offensively and being able to heal in case things go south

My biggest issue is that it feels more of the same.

>>720022229
Great, a fuckin dev was among the small pool of playtesters.

This explains a lot.

>>720022313
either that or wait to heal. thats insanely slow, and punishing
something that also got changed a bit from the first one.
i dont think hollow knight fans are actually happy about this.

>>720005034
There's a mechanic to store rosaries in strings.
Multiple vendors provide that service.
There are even machines scattered around that do it.
If you're losing rosaries then its due to your overconfidence.

>>720022518
>yooo this healing mechanic is lit keep it up

>>720022306
I think its funny you think the trannys suck when reality they are just like you, but speed runners.

>>720021068
all the decent moderation is playing the game so a retard is running the ship today

>>720022487
I disagree, other than maybe with some of the powerups. Hornet's run makes the game feel completely different. I think they found good balance of "keeping what people loved, but shaking up the formula so it's not exactly the same".

>>720009871
there is another like this and it 3x longer and has big guy too kek

>>720022008
wow anon you completely destroyed him

>>720022368
Good. Give me more uncompromised visions and less mass appeal.

>>720022589
>eh ill just add an extra mask for myself on this boss and a double jump and call it good.

>>720016789
lace barely count as a boss

>>720022651
yeah poetic. stay in their small bubble and appeal to the 1% tranny speedrunner elites

>title screen changes once you make it to Act 2
abshawlute cinema

The early game is too hard in my opinion but I'm not a faggot so I took a break and came back to my sticking point and defeated it so I could make progress. I'm pretty comfortable now that I have access to skill/tool/damage upgrades. A balance change wouldn't hurt helping with the early game but I don't know if it is necessary.

I want to like it, but I think stuff like Ori Will of the Wisps and Lost Crown were better at the platforming aspects and despite veering closer to the Vania side it doesn't really have the interesting rewards/ability progression of them. Kinda wish the bosses were more mechanic driven than just different shades of damage sponges especially given there's so many of them but I'm only partly into Act 2 so maybe there's some around the corner. Just feels strange that nothing ever really asks for more than a little spacing and the occasional pogo. The float basically stopped existing as a mechanic after the very zone it was introduced (I don't find it to be more useful in fights than pogoing or air dash really), and the silk skills are kind of superfluous.

i'm currently at Last Judge, the fucking route to the boss rom the bench is so unbelievably gay. that on top of just completing hunters march which was also not enjoyable at all. this shit is really starting to feel like hollow knight: prepare to die edition.

>>720022695
Genuinely, you can fuck right off. Actual braindead response. Who the hell wants everything to be mainstream slop?

>>720022709
giving how power progression goes, it doesn't get better bud.

>>720015574
The scissor cunts re ezpz.
Just jump over and backstab when they lunge.

The fat birds can eat a dick.
So sick of the cheap fucks flying just out of reach while chucking knives.
Half the time they aren't even a threat, its just a matter of waiting for their Ai to decide to land for 0.1 seconds so I can land a couple hits.

>>720022698
Hollow knight had 6 different title screens.

>>720022725
>Last Judge
Fun but tough boss ruined by that autistic runback.

>>720022725
Some of the runbacks the game forces you through later is actually insane. And here I thought at the beginning of the game they casualized the game by adding more benches.

>>720021594
use your Parachute, it stops the momentum completely

>>720001213 (OP)
Beastfly. Literally "just get lucky: the boss". If the fucker uses his minion call ability back-to-back you're done. I defeated the boss after what felt like 40th try, saw how dogshit the reward was and uninstalled.

>>720022773
I may be wrong but I think the title screen changed when you beat the game and for the DLCs.

>>720022770
You get an upgrade later on that really helps with bitchy flying enemies that run away all the time

>>720022725
i just got done beating that and going to bed soon. that runback does suck but a small tip after doing it so much

the initial jump right into whree the first mosquito spawns, you can do a jump right after landing barely missing it spawning so you dont have to bother killin it.

make sure you take your time on judge. only attack after the jump phase 2

Imagine when the Godhome equivalent DLC comes out and you have to beat every boss in a row.

>>720022740
probably the most big brain response going on and why the game feels like tedious dogshit.
the first game wasn't like this shit at all you dumb elitist fat tranny faggot.

Do you get any good crests in Act 2 or are Reaper/Wanderer king?

>>720019391
That logic is what gave us The Lost Levels.

>>720022873
beast and hunter are best

>>720022797
and the infection! Which is imersive. I stand by HK is the much better game.

The only thing this games doe worse than HK is the feeling of exploration isn't as meaningful. I think a lot of that is down to not having a silent protagonist.

The standout moments of exploration in HK for me were falling into Deepnest and having to find my way out and finding Kingdom's Edge. It felt very desolate. Yet to get any of that feeling in SS.

>>720022787
>Literally "just get lucky: the boss". If the fucker uses his minion call ability back-to-back you're done
Not true at all

>fight beastfly
>he's too hard
>come back later with tool upgrade/poison tools
>spam every minion he calls with poison darts
>ez win because I came back with the tools to actually take away his control of the room
This is exactly like people getting filtered by Elden Ring, there are no difficulty walls because you can just fuck off and explore for 8 hours then come back stronger, if you choose to keep banging you head against the wall that's your fault

You aren't just bad at the game you're failing the IQ test

>>720022867
Holy fucking buzzwords. You might just be the biggest faggot on /v/ right now

>>720022936
I've got this feeling two times in Silky so far

What's the deal with finding the silver bells wish? I don't see any of them above Bellhart, and I don't know how to open up that room full of bells in The Marrow which I assume connect to the lower tunnels and I don't see another way into them.
>>720022746
I guess I'll see when I get to it. I did everything in HK aside from the Pantheon of Knight and the Pantheon of Hallownest, but I'm really rusty since that was 5 years ago.

>>720016789
boy do i have news for you my man
>now with adds that guarantee 2 masks of damage as well

>>720016891
The thing I noticed is how linear everything is.
In hollowknight, after the mantis lords the game opened up and there were tons of directions to explore and you could progress in whatever order you want.
In Silksong, you have much less freedom.
Every time you find a boss you basically have to lock-in and beat them because there is literally nowhere else to go until you do.

If anyone is having trouble with the sister stalker boss. I just beat it by saving the thread for needle throws to kill the adds in one hit so I can focus on the 3 claw slams.

>>720022998
Completely wrong. I've been playing this alongside my brother and we ended up going totally different routes to the citadel. You just haven't found the other paths and side locations yet

>>720022829
You can do the entire runback in less than 30 seconds not killing anything.

https://youtu.be/VDx_w8saxLM?si=3mVLfDFi5W0dt9fL

This nigger gets hung up a couple of times, but that's the route. Just stop being shit. Do you stop and kill every goomba in Mario as well?

>>720020092
No it's not.

>I'm worried about losing my 100 rosaries
>Dude just buy a rosary string, they only cost 80 rosaries
>Whew... I'm glad I can protect my 20 rosaries now...
What the fuck were they thinking with this

>people are getting filtered by fucking SISTER SPLINTER
I actually think you should give up if that boss takes more than 5 tries. You're ngmi.

>Vines disappear in 3 hits
>Adds die with one silk move
>Incredibly telegraphed swipes you just dash left or right.

>>720023165
I just quit to menu when I'm at one HP and can't heal. Takes you back to the bench.

>>720022950
Not once have I felt the need to back off to farm souls for level ups in dark souls or elden ring, even for optional bosses. The bossfight is simply badly designed.

The runback to Judge was so easy idk why some are finding it difficult? Like the most tasking bit is just timing the jump right to avoid the first fly everything else is legit autopilot. What annoyed me was just having to do it at all when I just wanted to retry the Judge.

You faggots ain't seen a bad runback until you fight the fucking frog in the bile maggot place. Fuck that fight and fuck that runback

>>720022970
Tell me where anon

>>720023258
I haven't felt the need to go back and level up in silksong either, so idk what you're bitching about

>>720023165
Why are you lying? Rosary strings cost only 20 more than the amount of rosaries they preserve. Enemies shit rosaries left and right in act 2, if you’re actually pressed over TWENTY then you’re a complete shitter.

>>720019905
Hornet's fragility isn't what bothers me.
I'd be fine with it if lethality was high across the board.
That is to say: if the most enemies also went down in few hits.
The highspeed-highstakes clashes would each fight feel like a duel, and incentivize careful play and tool use.
As things stand, enemies are just way too tanky.
A tall ant enemy takes about 10 hits to go down.
A short ant enemy takes 6.
The giant fatass in the deep docks took such a huge number of hits that I actually lost count.
These are fairly early-game enemies, the HP pools they have is patently ridiculous.

>>720006078
From the beginning, keep heading right along the ground level, all the way through spine and to the far right. Go under up and around the back.

>>720023392
About the badly designed bossfight that's more luck-based than skill-based.

>>720023404
>just make it to act 2 bro
Yeah it's just that easy when you can't buy anything

>>720023502
Sound to me like you're just ass at crowd control. I died like once to that fight

>>720022787
Needle grapple and leveled up tools completely melt this boss. You fought it early and got mad that it was too hard, that’s not the game’s fault you fucking monkey.

>>720008074
There’s a farming loop detector above the village. 25 per loop, takes less than 30s even without dash.
Probably a better loop somewhere.

>>720023572
>he’s STILL not in act 2
Sorry, I guess it was too generous of me to assume you weren’t completely braindead.

>>720009534
Nigga, just run past the ants. Duh.

>>720023573
What fucking crowd control lmfao. None of your attacks stagger or reposition the enemy, There's no "crowd control" in this game, stop using words you don't know the meaning of.
All it takes for you to get overwhelmed is boss using his minion call ability back-to-back, that's it.

where do i deliver the queen's egg

>>720023359
Blasted Steps because I like that edge of the world vibe and finding there a nail master there was kino and whole sequence of Sinners Road->Bilewater>Mists.
Citadel also feels ginormous and monumental to explore

>>720023115
Genuinely curious.
What were the route divergences you guys had.
I fully accept the possibility that I'm blind and just missing hidden paths left and right.

People keep mentioning Bilewater, where is it? Is it past Sinner’s Road?

>>720023819
yeah, I forgot how you get there also I think you need double jump to get up to where the map lady is but maybe I'm wrong

>>720023819
it's a semi secret pass in sinner's road 2nd vertical section

>>720015540
If you do that event right above the boss you actually respawn there if you die

>>720022565
Please stop formatting your posts like that.
it makes you come across as a huge faggot.
And by huge, I mean fat.

>>720024329
No.
Cry about it.
Faggot.

>>720023789
My brother went the "normal" way through last judge, but I went greymoor -> sinners road -> the mist -> the massive fucking organ -> citadel

>>720021095
>Oh sure, that'll be 80 beads to save your 20 beads, thanks!
People are shidding and crying over losing 500+ beads because they're pathetic retards dumbass.

>>720023742
>None of your attacks stagger or reposition the enemy
That's just simply not true at all. All enemy's take knock back, and you can manipulate their movements simply by by your own positioning. In genuinely sounds like you're just ass

>>720021068
What you got against loli? Gaylord

>got to beastfly once in graymoor and died in seconds
>go do other things
>find fleas and ride with them
>apparently this skips the boss
What the fuck? I was going to go back to him. Did I miss anything for that shit?

>>720024801
All you really miss is an early journal entry, but you can still fight him at a later point

Anyone know how to get seared guts? I haven't found a single flame based tool yet

>>720006086
>decide to head to deep dock before heading to his area to buy a tool
>collect the last flea on the way
>apparently skipped him by doing this
Did I miss out on anything good?

>>720024979
No. I did the same thing. You can fight him again later so you don't miss out on a journal entry or anything

>>720024687
>you're just ass
You can keep repeating that all you want, but it won't change the fact that the boss is badly designed trash where luck plays more of a factor than player's skill.
And the reward for defeating it makes hornet's pogo attacks even more cancerous to use AND gets rid of on-demand heal lmfao nice fucking game bub.

>>720024979
He comes back later, it's all g

>>720022991
Btw if anyone's struggling on beastfly 2 you can literally just leave the arena. I'm not even kidding. It's how I killed those fuckass adds. Why do they take 4 hits to kill EACH and deal 2 hearts of damage?

>>720006086
I'm so fucking angry I skipped that boss.
Like, I died to him like 5 times, and said, yeah will I just need a new mask shard and this dude is done, I just need some more exploring.
Turns out more exploring ended up skipping the entire fight :/
I'm so disappointed, I wanted to beat him, he was not that hard, he just has too much health, even with the companion.

>>720025054
>but it won't change the fact that the boss is badly designed trash where luck plays more of a factor than player's skill.
You keep saying this when others have told you they didn't have a problem with it at all, and you are completely ignored how I told you to how manage multiple enemies. You're not only ass, but you're clearly an assmad retard who can't accept when you've been a fuckwad

>>720023756
For me it's the Sands of Karak. Area is completely optional and the music along with seeing the room where you get the drilling tool really gave the vibe that you found a lost civilization or some shit. Feels like you discovered something myrhical and that you're the first one to see it since thousands of years ago

>>720001213 (OP)
I refunded 90 minutes in not because it was difficult, but because I was bored

>>720025239
What games do you enjoy? If you like the genre is not bad, thought it's difficult. Of course if you only get enjoyment out of fucking fortnite is gonna get boring, game doesn't hold your hand.

>>720025205
>didn't have a problem with it at all
lol sure
>you are completely ignored
You are english has very good.

Here are the steps to defeat beastfly:
1) hit the boss
2) pray you get lucky and never get more than 3 enemies on the screen at the same time

>>720020539
>the fact they didn't have review copies shoulda said something
yeah bro. the same people complaining totally wouldn't have shitted on journos for telling it's too hard.

>>720025392
RPGs, factory builders, 2d platformers, coop shooters like DRG. I want to enjoy metroidvanias but games like HK never clicked for me. Played through both Ori games on hard though

Bros.
What if team cherry made all this double damage nonsense on purpose at launch to then patch it with an easy mode later?
Then they could have an easy mode and nobody would complain. They just wanted to put an easy mode without the community being enraged.
...right?

>>720025582
I'm pretty sure that if you didn't enjoy hollow knight, the chance of you liking silksong are less than 1%
You fell into the silksong hypetrain/meme.

>>720013461
How do you even get a damage upgrade before this guy? The nailsmith is after it

>>720001213 (OP)
i played up to the map vendor and said "yep, this is more of that average hollow knight game" and alt+f4ed. i still do not understand. is this a furry franchise in disguise

>>720020207
>last judge
>7-8 hours
yeah no wonder you faggot mongoloid think the world is worse than hollow knignt. this is the equivalent of going straight to the 3 watchers in hollow knight without discovering other parts of the world first.

did you find out the waversong atla area before last judge?
did you discover sinner's road, bilewater, the mist, the exhaust organ, AND the epic boss at the end that gets you to the citadel as well?
did you discover the wormways?
did you discover the left side of blasted steps that get you to coral tower?
did you get transported to the slab?
did you get the crest upgrade and permanent extra yellow charm slot?
i bet you didn't do any of this shit and straight bee lined to the last judge. retard.

>>720025604
they've expected you to play Hollow Knight and be inspired to play other platformers for 7 years so you'll git gud and Silksong will be only mildly difficult

My main issues with the game are flying enemies and the turn-based design combined with the inconsistent AI, and the more playtime I have, the more it saps the fun out of me.
>flying enemies have random bullshit movement, so you'll get contact damage often enough
>have to wait for them to get within reach, which takes several seconds
>they have a 50% chance to dash back and avoid your attack
>they take 4 to 6 hits, rendering sub-weapons useless and killing them with the nail too slow

>non-flying enemies have some block/dodge mechanic that you can't really outplay and speed up killing them
>on top of that AI that sometimes will attack/move twice in a row with 0.01s delay and sometimes 2s delay
>all encounters become baiting attack, doing 1 to 2 attacks then wait for the enemy to do something so you can punish, because god forbid you're allowed to play aggressive without punishment if you have the skill to do so
>once again, enemies take 4 to 6 hits to die
>there is also the inconsistent tracking/prediction with enemies projectiles or jump attacks, where sometimes they'll attack on your position and sometimes they'll do some disgusting tracking using your position on the last frame of their animation
Flying enemies were cancer on HK too, but most of them had pathetic attacks, if any at all, from what I remember, but on SS they're pretty much flying acrobats. Pic related is pretty much the difference between them on both games.

>>720006086
piss easy once you stay tiny bit to the side
the momemnt you move too far you are dead
you can jump hover over him, and just hover over dual blade attack

>>720025910
flying enemies are easy if you're not stingy with your tools. if you use the aerial spike trap (or even the explosive bomb) they take like 1-2 hits extra to die. I always save my tools for flying enemies when I'm just exploring.

Can't believe the amount of shitty casuals that now plague this board
You should be ashamed of being unable to beat a game like this

>>720025986
You should see reddit and youtube comments. Literal 40 year old karens getting extremely filtered bc they thought its a comfy little bug exploration game kek.

IS plasmium bugged? I have 18 in reserve but it's not refilling

>>720024979
>>720025174
>>720013461

>>apparently skipped him by doing this
how?
what route you guys are going that you miss him?

>>720015067
it makes the game much harder since it introduces visual noise, much better to do it solo
just stay tiny bit to the side, jump up, hit, and move back right away in case he attacks, if he does jump and hit
when he flies under you jump hit him down or float, spam spell attack it does 3 hits of nail, in second phase when he screams get under him get ready to jump up and keep floating

im surprised people had problems with him
but i guess 2 mask per hit is just fucking retarded on every attack

To those of you defending the game's difficulty spike as a "true sequel", would you be saying the same thing if you'd been forced into playing as Hornet as she starts out in Silksong when you start up the Grimm Troupe DLC?

>>720025978
I imagine both of these are purchasable from the blacksmith giant lady bug, which I didn't buy, but I assume the ammo count is low, which goes back to the same issue of you using it to deal with the first 3 or 4 flying enemies but then there are other 10 until you find another bench.
>>720026050
You gotta buy the refill from the scientist. It doesn't refill by itself over time or resting on a bench.

>>720026090
I wa sin greymore, that thing apppeared, tried to beat him, but then decided to explore some more, then I completed the flea mission and that automatically skips the battle.
I wonder if I still can fight him somewhere else.

>>720009871
second phase for widows is crazy long, so switch to normal nail if you have the second one, and sprint into hit, hit again and again for a fast 3 hit combo, and get back to middle
point is to stand still in place always between where both diagonal bells hit so you avoid them and they dont bounce off a wall, then since you dont get hit look at the enemy and get ready to jump over him when you charges
when she disappears get ready to sprint at her, do 3 hit combo and back to middle to wait for her to disappear again

to heal jump up when bells are dropping vertically and heal in air just in case she charges at you

Not only the boss, but the journey back to the boss. I've coped with everything up until this fucking area. I posted this image last night and went straight back to the game and made no fucking progress in an hour.

>>720026102
That's a confusing hypothetical, are you you saying you start as hornet and fight against Grimm?
If yes, SS isn't as hard in beginning, the craziest enemy is gatekeeping big ant. Up until greymoor game is quite easy

>>720026126
the aerial spike is from the blacksmith lady
the explosive bomb you find in a breakable wall above the house of the doctor npc in the very top left of greymoor

>>720026256
the long runbacks to bosses are getting to me too

>>720026256
The trick is running jump the 1st and 2nd platform to skip the flying bug. Not floating, not jumping + dash, those aren't fast enough to bypass the bug. Everything after is easy, even if time consuming.

>>720006086
I hate this shit game but this is a good boss. He telegraphs all his attacks properly.
It also has an npc available and you can also skip it.
Annoying as fuck and shouldn't have done double damage but it is what it is.

>>720006086
lol I beat him 2nd try and felt like a shitter thinking he was too easy to die to

he isn't that bad

ok but can we talk about how the music is not as good as hollow knight?
like, sounds generic
I remember greenpath theme and city of tears theme pretty well even after all these years
Now, try humming the theme of... any area of silksong. Yeah, no memorable tune at all.
If not for the credits, I wouldn't have thought it was the same composer...

>>720026256
Once youve learned all his attacks you can complete it easily without taking any damage
It took me 15 tries but my last try was a perfect kill
Also theres a little shortcut on the 2nd ledge if you run jump to the left and will climb up
Stay the course anon! or if you realllllly dont want to kill this boss you can climb up above the halway home and go the alternative and route to the citadel. it also has a very kino but also much easier boss

>just started the game
>wondering where I can get a map
>finally get to the hunter lady
>buy compass and the two maps she sells
>forgot that they expect you to buy the quill needed for the privilege to fill out these borderline useless maps
>no money, no idea where to get more
>also now the compass actively blocks you from using other charms instead of just taking up a single slot
It's gonna be one of those games isn't it

>>720006086
I had no idea this guy was a roadblock at all until I started reading these threads. Like... just jump over the sawblades, nigga.

>>720006329
I was so disappointed by this
surely they must have put that there as a placeholder and forgot to replace it, complete garbage reward for what felt like a notable spot to reach

>>720015067
guess i was lucky because i had to runback 2 screens for him.
top left from his area i´ve cleared something with a upgrade where you had to enter trough a door.
always respawned at the door.

>>720001213 (OP)
You can't finish this platformer, you should find another hobby.
I really am liking 2025.
> people are being priced out of video games that never really cared to begin with because they were casuals
> People are being filtered left and right because, again, they never really cared about video games to begin with because they were casuals.
This is a very good year. fuck the whole "customer friendliness" angles and arguments.
There's more gatekeeping that needs to be doled out.

>>720030080
>muh casuals
HK was fine because Team Cherry understood what makes a game good, then they bent their knee to tryhard faggots and made Silksong a meme game that is missing every Metroidvania element.

>>720001865
Fpbp and it's always during SEA hours these garbage threads show up too

>>720015067
The runback is one of the fastest. You get a shortcut in the room where you go down, you don't have to go into the sewer section.

>>720030197
>is missing every Metroidvania element
But it does not.
You get movement updates and come back to places you couldn't reach before in an interconnected map. Therefore it's a metroidvania. That's it really.

>>720030197
"muh" nothing nigger.
we have too many casuals in this scene and they need to get frustrated out of this hobby. They've been tolerated long enough.
> HK was fine because Team Cherry understood what makes a game good,
Why do I deja vú when I read this sentence?
It's so cliché in the wording
> then they bent their knee to tryhard faggots and made Silksong a meme game that is missing every Metroidvania element
> element
ah there we go, the buzz terms
Listen, I get it, you've never played probably a game made before 2008 and you never will even if you had a gun pointed to your head. I got it. But if you ever bothered to check out an older video game some time, you'll get why this sequel is a must to be around.
And I'm just going to leave it at that because it's the 9th month of 2025, and man this board has gotten stupider by the month since January.

>>720016061
Silksong seems to happen a very long time after hollow knight
In the cutscene with Lace after getting to the citadel she references the Radiance getting mogged without being upfront if it was post voidheart or post godhome but she's apparently been in a bunch of relationships with other bugs that all died

I'm loving the memes at least

>>720001213 (OP)
>bird enemies
>hard
kek
Nigga just hit them until they do the attack cue, jump over them and keep attacking. It's not rocket science.
I swear you guys are retarded and so bad at games.

>>720030567
>Listen, I get it, you've never played probably a game made before 2008
Nice projection since the overtuned difficulty in Silksong is typical in older games that are short and need the padding. Which applies to this game since it's only 17 hours long.
If you play any good game like Aria of Sorrow you'll see that games can be fun without throwing bullshit at you left and right.

pleaseeeee
I just need a mask shard
a single one
I can do 50 side quests
but please
I just can't keep dying to 3 hits
just a mask shard
NO I DON'T WANT ANOTHER CREST TF YOU MEAN I DID ALL THIS FOR A CREST? THEY ARE NOT EVEN THAT GOOD!
WHY ARE MASK SHARD SO RAREEEE?!?!!

I have a question but I don't want to spoil myself so please answer with a yes or no if possible.

Is there an area in the game that becomes unavailable later on so you have to loot it and do the quests as soon as you can?
I ask because I remember from the trailers a section with the lava rising and Hornet escaping upwards.

>>720001213 (OP)
>So what was your breaking point.
The one where I never bought the game or had any interest in it to begin with.

I think people who haven't finished Silksong should not be allowed to post on 4chan. It would be so much better. Mods should hold a private interview where you show them your complete percentage and a short live stream of you beating path of pain.

>>720030789
> projection
Where did you learn your vocabulary? r/games?
The fuck?
Anyway your armchair game design analysis is noted and viably stupid. What does the 17 hours (how did you measure that is beyond anyone's guess)
> any good game
That's according to you - but wait you want to be safe and give a certified correct opinion - I got it.
>...without throwing bullshit at you left and right
You got filtered. I got that a few posts back.
I'll tell you what: why not skip this game, since you got filtered pretty hard and you're seething, and try picrel. I heard its really fun.

>>720030834
No

Is it worth going back to get that tool on pointer location?It's an explosive

>>720006831
>I realized this game was overhyped
https://www.togeproductions.com/SteamScout/steamAPI.php?appID=1030300
Negative revews are mostly from China, and some from Korea and Japan.

Here's your play tester boys

>>720030726
/v/ always gets filtered hard, my theory is we spend too much time shitposting instead of playing so in those rare occasions (once of twice per year) when some fun and challenging game comes out we get destroyed. it already happened this year with expedition 33.

Theres a one mask damage mod available on nexus.

>>720001213 (OP)
It's a videogame, there's no breaking point, I adapt and learn.
You faggots are really fucking weak in the head.

>board is constantly mas about games being made piss easy for the masses
>actual challenging game releases
>shits pants
Lol

>>720031224
Good to know.

>>720031625
Remember the helicopter in Armored Core? kek
What a shitters board.

>>720032170
my favorite threads were dark souls 2 and sekiro. it was total bloodbath LMAO

>>720001213 (OP)
It has too much lgbt-alphabettispaghetti for my liking

>>720030639
I really, really like this image.

I enjoy the challenge. I don't enjoy spending minutes getting back to the challenge. just give me a bench you niggers

Help with sinners road anons? I've got the last judge as an option but I want to try fighting phantom. How do I fix that broken bench?