Thread 720123665

Comfy silksong discussion thread

why can't you fuck off to /vg/ with the rest of you troons

>another boss fight with flying adds
I will kill the retard that thought adding adds to bosses would make them better.

>>720123665 (OP)
(Act 3)
How do I get there?

no way

I reached the last judge
Is that run back for real?

>>720123824
>melts them with tools

i got the shotgun silkshot from the forge daughter, taking the broken material to the architect instead would've made it an smg right?

I love team cherry but locking act 3 behind fleas is peak retardation, you cant find them without wiki

anyone knows what to do in this room? it's a secret above the room where you fight the fat chef in sinner's road

Is pimpillo good? Just found it

This pogo section almost hard filtered me. Fuck cogs

>-4, -4, -4, -4
So how many times do you need to win to get something?

>>720123970
just get the flea map guy in the putrid ducts. you don't need all fleas to get to act 3 btw

>>720123919
>hover out of your tool reach
>insta summon two more
>you are now out of ammo

Where is the pilgrim's rest vendor corpse in act 3?

>>720123760
If the tranny horse game is allowed to shit up the board, an objectively better game has the same privilege too.

I'll say it, the double jump made the game worse, making the hover a down+jump input is just retarded
The only upside is that it trivializes most of the early platforming section when backtracking

>>720123970
That's the one thing you can find without a wiki since a NPC sells you the location of all remaining ones.

>>720124090
the fucking what? i went through the entire area except the one that requires either perfect pogo or some super jump

>>720124082
im about to blow 800 shekelbux on that guy, will see

>>720123919
Which ones ?

What were they thinking with Graol?
Genuinely baffled because he is always either out of reach or in your face doing 2 mask contact damage. His attacks are not even an issue

>>720123760
AAAIIIEEEEEE A FOUR DAY OLD GAME IS GETTING THREADS
TWITTER SCREENCAPS SAVE MEEE

>>720124082
>>720124202
nvm impossible due to unforeseen circumstances

>>720124075
if that's a struggle for you, good luck in obtaining double jump

>>720124236
How am I supposed to make revenue from ragebait when all the threads are about videogames?

almost at the citadel, can i get some hints/confirmation that i explored pretty thoroughly up until now?

spoilers for the first chunk of the map

>>720124316
I really recommend accessing the hidden shop guy in Hunter's March.
Here's a hint on where to find him: Check the rooms next to that tall air gust for secrets

>>720124316
Pretty sure you can go to that "way up high" place in Greymoor already.

>>720124314
Shit. I kept getting to the last part and then just didn't have enough height to reach the ledge.

>Don Quixote will always die
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>720123895
SAN-

>>720123916
don't worry it gets worse in bilewater

>>720124491
I had a feeling, he was too pure for this world

>>720124520
i genuinely feel like bilewater has to be done last and then its not that bad

>>720123916
It’s real but when you start to use dash nonstop you will get back to the boss in under 20 seconds

>>720123884
Help

>>720123916
Anon....
Thats an easy run back for what you face later on

>>720124464
i've tried, but there's big ass diagonal beams which stops me from wallclimbing

>>720124436
i'll go take a look, but i only remember the guy that hid under a bush, not sure if you mean him, but ironically i haven't been able to find him(her?) since

so whats the appeal? this game is like a metroidvania with melee weapons and enemies that talk?

>>720124831
>the guy that hid under a bush
That's not it. I can see by your map that you haven't found the hidden shop. He sells a boomerang and the fractured skull charm, both are great items. The skull is an S-tier item

>>720124853
this is the appeal

>>720124853
it's got a lot of content and good world design. you should try either it or the first one

>>720124918
oh i found him yesterday but was too broke and didnt feel like farming money since his stuff didnt sound good. maybe i should go back. he was as far as i seemed to be able to go in hunters march without some kind of double jump or something; it seemed like itd be theoretically possible to lure a flying ant for pogoing above the bench but i couldnt be fucked. kind of lame you can do all that pogoing only to get walled off at the very end by not having an upgrade

WANDERER OR REAPER

>>720124918
welp, i was en-route when i had some...complications
i'll get to it later

>>720124970
Dread only cost me ~$30

>>720125046
once u have longclaw the reaper becomes obsolete

Just got to Forge Daughter, what should I get? I'm at max shell fragments cause I barely ever use the throwing knives, maybe the spike trap will be more useful? I could also get the magma protection thing since I don't have any blue equipment yet, but I don't know how useful it is

>>720125047
good luck in prison bro

It's kinda funny how much easier the Beastfly rematch is despite it being so much more obnoxious on paper, just because you have so many more tools available to you at that point.

>that treadmill room in the underworks that gives you one (1) pebble for running for like 2 minutes
>only gives money every second fill of he bar
These bugs truly live in a society.

>>720125096
magma protection is a crutch on bosses which have fire or lava attacks

>>720124708
The ants might have something to help you.

>>720125046
I like reaper more just because it has two slots for tools

>>720125046
The more i use reaper the less i like it but i keep using it because of the double tool slot and because the pogo is actualy usable.

>>720125096
I just kept grinding the bellbugs nearby till I could get everything besides the shard bundle

NOT THIS GUY AGAIN

>>720125294
is this act 3?

>>720124708
Star tapping walls and looking for hidden paths all around that area.

where do you guys farm rosaries? trying to clear out grindles shop but he taxes like a mf

>>720125317
ye

>hey you remember the delicate flower?
>yeah how about you go do that shit again for the fetch quest that asks you to get a bunch of bullshit for your other quest that asks for some bullshit for your nail upgrade
How about fuck you.

what the fuck do i do

>>720125331
left of the citadel fast travel, kill mobs run back repeat
if u have architect just use the charged attack

Keep on trying, Anon.

do these niggers just make this whole area to troll their players?
frigid outskirts is baby shit tier compared to this

>>720125164
>>720125328
Hmm, I see

>>720125471
when i got to late game i realized i could just skip this shit, get longclaw through ducts and do the fight with the maggot immunity and upgraded nail but yea its hunter's rise of act 2

I do not like platformers.

>>720125562
And i do not like transformers but we live in a society

>>720125452
She's cute

>>720124316
You can explore all of the towers in Greymoor and there's a new area connected to there

>>720125551
wait i can skip this area for true ending?
is there anything important behind this boss/area?

>>720125452
Myla but the good ending

>>720125692
cant skip but if u do it after ducts its infinitely easier
you also cant access ducts fully from bilwater so its not even a progression path, literal dead end
people rushed it because some very skilled anon found longclaw

>>720123884
there's an opening on the right side of craw lake

>>720123665 (OP)
>feminist trash
>made by 3 white men
The jokes write themselves, nothing says female empowerment like 3 white men making a game that tells you about it.

Silksong and The Messenger might have to be my two favourites when it comes to character mobility, genuinely fun to move around maps.

how do i get up ?

>>720125813
erm

>>720125046
Evolved Hunter

Any tips for getting the cursed ending? Beating the final boss with no tools, heal or anything is being kinda hard for me

how do i get the flea caravan to move from blasted steps? i know theres certain amount of fleas required but im pretty sure ive fulfilled that requirement

>>720125046
Witch / Architect are the most fun
I like shaman moveset but no tools is naah

>>720125870
it's open for me idk negro

Is this absolute retardation even remotely worth it?

what am i missing here

>>720125551
can i get a hint where this maggot immunity at

>>720125937
either get good because her attacks are extremely well telegraphed and slow or only attempt it on a save with literally everything maxed
im gonna miss that ending because i fucked up but did that fight first try while lace took 5, its beyond simple, with maxed nail its gonna be a joke

>>720125937
doesn't that shit erase your safe file?

>>720126065
come back with double jump

>>720126096
explore ducts
its not real immunity

>beat act 3
>want to start a new playthrough
>forgot where everything is

>>720124520
the runback in sands of kerak is more annoying than bilewater runback assuming u find the 2nd bench in bilewater

>>720126065
yup
turn off audio for this
use the aoe skill to take the aimbotting ones down and pogo the big ones, they arent all too scary. u can bait them to come down by staying on the platforms momentarily.

>>720125870
>>720126095
STOP AND READ THIS THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT

You are not going to explore everything if you don't start Act 3. Many places open up and you get new power ups that let you explore these places you think have nothing in them

Is the first Sinner some fucking superboss or some shit???

Radiance was a pretty petty bitch all things considered.

>>720126135
i made a backup

>>720123760
If gacha generals are allowed on this board, why not actual videogame threads? This one seems harmless enough.

>>720125096
The spike trap's great for bosses or gauntlets with flying adds. Usually brings them down to one hit.

I got the unlock to progress me to another area

>>720126434
>radiance bad
>void bad
>religion bad
wow so deep team cherry

>>720126498
Erm radiance was in the right chud

>>720123665 (OP)
Im not playing till they add a bench closer to judge faggot

>>720126542
tell that to myla

do any fleas require act 3?

>>720126418
Nigga what are you talking about I am already in Act 3

>>720126580
Should've not worshipped the usurper king.

>>720123742
Absolutely jewish, then again one of the lead devs is called (((Ari))).

Spoiler me please, is the area next to pilgrim's rise accessible before act 3?

Anyone remember where the drop down to bilewater is? I found it once by accident and I cannot find it again for the life of me

2 hours later and im still stuck on last judge
Get her to phase2 or 3 or whatever every time then flounder at some dash attack because i shorthop instead of full hop or i did a running attack and was in the air and cant get on the ground fast enough to jump over her.
2 more full flea estus consumed.
Had to farm a bit for more bone shards too.

I will defeat this boss

>>720123742
>>720126631
>Removal of a literal parasite
>Abortion
Are you guys alright? Do you think tapeworm removals are abortion references?

>>720126664
vaults

>>720125858
Double jump

>>720126725
Fuck thanks I was looking under the vaults this little shit threw me off so hard

>>720124236
>always the exact same thread
>same pic
>same title

Do the shillfull, saar!

Been playing for like 30ish hours and just did twisted child in 7 attempts. This cursed crest kinda fucks in terms of dps. Also did all the basic bitch delivery quests as well so every settlement including the flea one has one. Really surprised at how much I am loving all of it now that I got hornet a bunch of movement tools.

>>720126716
The media literacy crowd has to clutch onto the ONE thing something has to be interpreted as and cant appreciate surface level interpretations or multiple thoughts provoked. This person is probably just ragebaiting with the used goods screenshots as well though.

How do I get under the elevator shaft in whiteward? Help a brainlet out please

Bros, where the fuck am I supposed to go? Sinner's road is blocked, I need double jump to progress.

Holy fuck broodmother might be the most annoying fight in the game

>>720126947
u dont need double jump to access sinners road

>>720126716
>main character is a girlboss who has canonically taken miles of cock
>one of the devs is jewish and the new one is a tranny
>game has dyke shit and feminist themes everywhere
But you're right, we're probably just seeing things.

>>720126947
You dont need doublejump to get to most of sinners road and some of bilewater and the mists

Theres also a path up in the west side of shellwood where you only need wall climb.

>>720125046
Wanderer is the Easy mode.

>>720126617
If you are >720125870 then you need to do more stuff related to Green Prince

>>720127038
none of this is true btw
silksong won
deltarune lost

>>720127038
>schizophrenic babble
Take your lithium

the fuck is this

>>720126980
Oh yea that one took me ages to figure out what devs expect from me.
avoid all random dmg, anything that can randomly kill flies

>those little grey critters in the abyss are baby shamans
the lore in this game is wild

I thought you guys said you need to beat the guy at dice to get his charm. I played with him a few times but didn't have the patience so I left and I just came back and still got the charm. He's dead though it was just laying on the floor

>>720127069
Yes, that was me and what you said makes sense. I only freed the Gay Prince near the end of Act 2 and didn't get any events with him after that.

>>720127129
true ending item if you are a chad, it will annoy you forever

>>720127129
A baby. Bring it to the witch.
Also if you wanna know a secret: beat the final boss afterwards for a secret ending.

>>720127129

For doing this

>>720125937

Careful, it nukes your savefile
as for a hint on where to take it, look at the place where you got it, you shoulda seen those structures somewhere else as well

>whiteward
Where in the bloodborne did I end up at?

Just fought the Dancers
It was super easy and I first tried it, but what a cool fight!
When I entered the 3rd phase with only one dancer, I totally expected it to become the true boss, but nope, it's a joke phase with a silly music where he's all alone and tries to do his dance duo moves but fails miserably and is a free punching bag

>enter cogwork core
>map is written wrong and says "CogworkCore"
>it's another zone with small enemies that deals 2 damage
>with hazards that deals 2 damage
>and secret looking areas that have nothing in them
Yaaaaay...

The devs went off the rails with placing the map at the last room in the zone for late game zones
it's insane, the challenge shouldn't be in getting lost in a stupid maze prison.

>>720126135
>>720127271
What the fuck are you retards talking about? It doesn't nuke your save file.

>>720126098
Just saw your post after I made mine about the cursed ending. Take the time to learn the moveset for the cursed crest, each crest is way different from the others but the cursed one has some interesting air time with the down attacks in midair where it slows down her descent, it also will cause hornet to pogo up in a 1-2 burst. For the boss you wanna be careful because the aerial nails will fuck you up if you happen to be up there next to them when they spawn. Also make sure you are utilizing the clawline harpoon constantly for repositioning, when you see the nails spawn on the side, prepare to just move in between them at the same time by using the harpoon for movement. Even better if you can harpoon onto the boss but if you gotta use the wall that can be good too. The biggest issue is getting used to the new moveset and learning all of its tricks. Just guessing offhand but I imagine trying to stay grounded as much as possible and using dashes + silk charge to reposition is probably safer and gives you more movement options. Its tempting to stay in the air later in the fight when she starts doing judgement cuts everywhere but its kind of a bait.

>>720127306
t. high functioning sociopath

What is the cursed crest

>Everytime I ran into the snatcher bugs I killed them because why would I want to get captured
>later hear about the Slab
Did I fuck up? I've killed like 5 of these guys and I'm pretty sure there are none left

So far my only complaint is that I think taking two pips of damage for just TOUCHING a boss is excessive. Like, I knocked a boss down into the stun state and walked a little too close, two masks gone just like that? It wasn't even fighting it was just laying on the god damn ground, it's silly. Game is sick other than that, though.

>>720126803
Yes. Its helpful for me to find the thread where the talking happens. Not the shitposts. Now fuck off.

>buying a bench in a cancer area after a shitton of platformers and enemies
>hehe just kidding it's not working
Are devs genuinely retarded?

>>720123760
2 week grace period, retard

>>720127334
Oh forgot to mention, practice using your side slash in the air and the down slash then spamming Down + Dash, Side Dash, and Harpoon, this will give you an idea of the slight attack frame difference between the two attacks and inputting a movement option.

>>720127556
search that room

>>720127334
Thanks, double pogo seems to deal a lot of dmg but its easy to run into spikes
the charged attack takes too long to charge up but it reminds me of the HK spin move
man i didnt realize how much i was relying on tools for my dmg till they took it all away

>>720127454
fun

>>720126095
hmmm there’s a beam of light shining down from above…. almost as if there is a hole in the roof… perhaps one that you could super jump through………

WHy do I get the slug 4 times and not the fuckable bugs

>>720127306
there are people who feel sorry for her and then theres you

>>720127556
Secret passage on the wall to the left

I've reached Widow. Is there a second Spool shard somewhere between bone bottom and here?
I haven't mapped out all of the wormways yet.

The mobs in act 3 keep raping my asshole

>>720127121
They both lost and so have you, tranny.
Everything I've said is correct, (((Ari))) is z kike, Jack Vine is a troon, and the game literally tells you to your face that Hornet is a whore.
>>720127123
Take your HRT, not that it will actually turn you into a woman, lind you.

anons, I'm having more fun now that I'm getting gud (also fuck working on a monday morning, it's time to post on 4chan)

Anything to check off for act 1?
I've not gotten the fleas to move since I got all the fleas for them.
I'm not doing the Craw arena, I refuse.

>>720127625
Where do you get it

>>720125639
>>720124464
shit, i just took another look at the map. i missed the connections on top of the belltower.
thanks

>>720127675
>>720127590
I found it and died on the traps because I couldn't heal on the bench, awesome feeling

>Mount Fay
I'm going to do it
I'm going to say the fucking gamer word.

>>720127712
>lind you
Mind? Broken.

>>720123970
what? there's literally an npc that gives you flea markers on your map

I always try to heal in the air during bosses, but even then I would estimate I get interrupted at least 50% of the time

I did it folks, I beat Groal and unlocked act 3

I'm so happy I never have to visit Bilewater ever again, top 1 most niggerly area in all of the metroidvanias I've played (Hollow Knight, Blasphemous 1 & 2 and Nine Sols)

>>720127682
If i recall there was one above craws in the top left

>>720127795
happened to me but I liked that design, it's unique and adds SOVL. maybe I was mad for 2 minutes but whatever.

I'm seeing anons in this thread doing Bilewater seemingly fairly early and I have no clue how that's possible, because I'm completely incapable of progressing through it without a double jump. Am I missing breakable walls or something?

>>720127625
Well the game really incentivizes you to get into the habit of using lots of tools because it throws so many enemies at you that just run the fuck away and youre stuck chasing them. Or they have a parry or some other move that you don't wanna be in range of so you backoff which means you can throw a tool at them for some free damage. There really arent that many enemies that just stick around and fight you without any bullshit. I'd say the closest might be the scissor dudes in greymoor? They dont burrow underground and their parry/block isnt obnoxiously long, and they dont leap attack/shoot projectiles everywhere lmao.

Does Act 3 lock you out of anything? I didn't do the ladybugs

How do you get the prison stuff to happen? I fought the first Sinner and no ones here

>get to furnace fight
>he summons adds, common enemies you've already seen before
i'm getting fucking sick of this as a form of artificial difficulty.

>>720127976
You need doublejump to get the map and to get to the frog boss, but the first time you do bilewater all you can really do is get the fast travel station and go to the mist. For getting through the area the harpoon is great

>was worried the game wouldn't live up to the hype
>40 hours later, and holy shit they did it

Granted, I DO have some complaints, mainly around the obvious stuff like enviromental or staggered enemy damage still being 2 masks, long runbacks at times, and the shard system feels a bit counterintuitive at times. Occasionally the game felt like a chore where I need to kill a boss or do a section to get back to the "fun" parts, but overall still a solid 9/10 and by far the biggest metroidvania i've ever played at least in size.

Someone start giving out good Metroidvania recs, already played the big ones like Nine Sols, Ori, Dust, give me some good shit that's under the radar I want to play as many as I can while I still have ideas to make my own, Silksong finally made me realize how cool act-based structures/Inverted Castles" can be for a metroidvania (well the OG inverted castle was amazing, but act 3 was the first thing that gave me a similar feeling) and I'm working on how I'd like to do my own

can i get here before a3 or no, everything is blocked or requires giga jump

>>720128094
>give me some good shit that's under the radar
Not really under the radar but since you didn't mention it, Metroid Dread. My second favorite metroidvania. Now silksong is my top 1.

>>720127271
>look at the place where you got it, you shoulda seen those structures somewhere else as well
uhh i don't think i have...

>>720128094
Ender Lilies and Magnolia
but every game will look tiny compared to silksong now

How much is left after the intermission in the BLACKED Lace fight?

>>720128104
yeah you can, do you want a hint? I spent like 3-4 hours hitting every wall in every place around there like an idiot.

Just finished clearing out Sinner's Road, thought it was a main area, but apparently it's just a side area.

Should I free the Green Prince NPC locked in a cage? Or is this simple key better off used somewhere else?

Also, what's the deal with this slavefag lmao, Hornet's not into this kink

Which one is more worth spending my single metal ore on.

Where the fuck is the craftmetal you fags said was in blasted steps? I've looked fucking everywhere

>>720128184
the vines, look arround sherwood for similar vines

>>720123665 (OP)
I'm sorry I just gave up today.
Love the atmosphere, love the ost, love the idea but for the life of me I just can't play 2d games, I don't know what it is but my brain is fried when I have to make quick decisions in 2d environment.
Gonna listen to ost and maybe watch a playtrough on yt (did that for Hollow Knight), enjoy the game vros, I wouldn't be mad at tall if it wins GOTY it really is something special.

>>720128165
>>720128204
well shit, played all of those too. I played Ender Magnolia 2 weeks ago actually, short but sweet game. Dread was also fantastic, loved that too.

>>720128367
keep it, there's a tool that requires you to have metal on hand in the cathedral, specifically high halls
you're not gonna be hovering much at bosses so the one above it is better

>>720128092
>get past the first section
>rest of the fight is easy, beat it the first time i got there
huh.

9th heart completed

this one was tough

apparently there's a 10th one

>>720128429
That's a fine level headed approach, enjoy your 3d games.

>>720128317
yes please its bizarre

>>720127908
Got it. thank you, senpai!

>>720127328
What? The map is consistently in the first third of every area, even in endgame zones.

>>720128421
ooooohhhhh shit yeah the bitch asking for a nasty thing i totally forgot about her

>>720128520
You mean its behind that door that requires a simple key ? Cause I have one saved as well.
I didnt know if it was worth using it there instead of freeing the prisoner at sinner's path.

>>720128094
>Metroidvania recs
castlevania portrait of ruin and salt and sanctuary are my 2 favorites (can't decide between them)
definitely give those a try

>courier’s rasher
no. I can’t do this.

>>720128094
Nothing to do but simply pray that Prime 4 is a good game.

Can I get a qrd on the hornet cuck memes?

>>720128601
Maybe I've had bad luck but
>memorium
literally last room/hallsway I found
>puterified ducts
trash location, last thing I found
>the slab
I have two keys and found 3/4 benches, still don't have it
>>720128620
It's not behind a simple key door

>>720128662
it’s actually not that bad. I had an easier time with it than the white flower quest. you can take a route that avoids most enemies except in the blasted steps, which is the only hard part

>>720128662
im assuming theres a double jump so im waiting until i have that to do it. at least it doesnt instantly fail you if you get hit.

any fleamasters know how to get to this one its got me doin loops

>>720126498
The Void is actually good though.

>>720128094
you definitely need to play blasphemous if you haven’t already

>>720128094
Tool you only 40 hours to 100%?
How long to just beat it?

people who have played the fuck out of this game; am i a pansy if I install this
https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/46

my only excuse being I do not have the time to do long runbacks anymore. I work for a living and have a child.

>>720128628
Haven't played PoR, I can try it out. Salt and Sanctuary I played years ago, jank but good game.

>>720128682
still praying longer than I did waiting for silksong

>>720128204
also I was thinking about how you'd even do something to the scale and size of Silksong without needing either a full team or a full decade, and my closest thing to an answer is that you can get away with a lot by re-contextualizing areas instead of adding new ones. HK has Infected Crossroads and Silksong ups it by doing a void-flavored version of that but to the entire map. People say it reminds them of the Inverted Castle from SOTN, which isn't a huge game but the reveal still sits in a lot of people's memories, and Act 3 is pretty close to that in scale but on a way bigger map.

my current idea for how i'd do an "Act 3" that isn't a blatant ripoff of either have acts 1 and 2 be in separate locations/facilities/whatever, both fully explorable but separate, then act 3 telefrags them into each other but I'm still working out how I'd want to make a plot for it that's not bullshit garbage

>>720128094
Blasphemous 1/2 and Afterimage are good

>>720128863
just wall jump from below it wtf?

>>720128662
i was also scared to do this then when trying it i realized it wasnt hard at all, you can unlock a buncha shortcuts and make the path really fast
took me like 5 minutes, 3 tries, about 15 minutes total

Literally me.

>>720128094
well anon... i guess it depends on how much of a normie you are

>>720128662
kill all enemies on route before doing it without resting at benches, the smallest critters always respawn
>>720128818
it might as well instafail you, I finished the quest with a little under 1 bar left out of 8. double jump helps a lot with routing in the steps

>>720128321
I enjoyed his interactions back in the citadel, I didn't find any of the key tool stuff all that valuable really. The one in the south is OK, but you lose better damage tools if you use it imo.

>>720128592
Go back to the travel spot in far fields and run into every wall and corner in the room. Its in the dumbest place and I only felt relief when I finally figured it out after tracing the other 5-6 screens.

SHOULD I FREE GREEN PRINCE IN SINNER'S ROAD OR USE THE KEY SOMEWHERE ELSE? I'M IN ACT 1, IS THIS SHIT MISSABLE LATER ON?

“Good” and “Evil” are fictions of the bug’s mind. The void is primordial chaos

unpopular opinion - making contact damage 1 mask would incentivise people to run into bosses so they'd avoid the real attacks

>>720128893
Didn't beat the game.

>>720128982
he seems like a chad so I freed him, simple as

honestly, I hope he comes back as a super difficult boss

>>720128804
surprised you haven't found the one for the slab, it was quite literally the first thing i found.

In case anyone hasnt tried it, the grapple shot can be really OP in combat.

>>720128982
he's gay so leave him in jail

>>720127583
i fuckin did it lets goo

>>720129024
me personally I would avoid the real attacks by simply avoiding the attacks normally and not taking damage but that’s just me personally

>>720128975
lmao found it immediately, what a stupid spot

>>720128662
i was deathly scared of it too but as soon as i tried doing a test run i realized it's nothing really that terrible.

>>720128938
>>720128863
Just go from directly below it( in the top corner of that room), you gotta bust through a bunch of ice once inside its little area.

>>720128967
already played it last year, I think I did everything up to like the third or fourth "final boss"

>>720128893
No, but I wouldn't install it. Seems to be buggy and certain events/interactions rely on the bench mechanic working the way it does so you may miss dialogue or quests may break. Better off installing a difficulty mod really quickly and removing it after or something.

>>720128982
I freed him and reached the credits without ever seeing him again

>>720128493
>I played Ender Magnolia 2 weeks ago actually, short but sweet game
What the fuck man, Magnolia is one of the longer MV's. Are you sure you're not confusing it with Lilies?

I guess play Afterimage then, it's the absolute longest one, but it's Chinese jank, the quality is all over the place.

>>720128967
Whats the selling point of this one in terms of gameplay ?

>>720129159
how about tevi then?

>>720128935
Afterimage is dogshit. Once you unlock the spin to win skills on dual blades and scythe the game is just over. Hell even before that you can just face tank the bosses on the first half of the game and not even worry about dying. That isn't even getting into the dogshit translation that makes absolutely no sense. It is really not that good. Hell the only cheevos I have left are Throughly Tempered and Platinum, and I don't even want to bother 100%ing the game because it would just mean I would have to sit there and grind pointless enemies for an hour or more for a nothing achievement on a game I didn't even like.

Blasphemous 2 was a direct upgrade on B1 and the bosses were really really fun.

>>720129180
i ran into him several times but purely by accident. the best moment was coming back to where i fought the clanker dancers to see him saying "they modeled these after my lover... my wish granted before i even got here"

>>720129202
missing a few collectibles for 100% but I did beat the game and get most everything including the true ending in less than 20 hours. Saw Afterimage was on sale for 5 bucks right now for 2 more hours, got it and I don't mind a bit of jank here and there if the game has some soul. Some of those Chinese fuckers have WONDERFUL ideas but just need a better translator and more bug testers.

>>720129263
NTA but I can't play Rabi-Ribi or Tevi because I would be embarassed if my wife saw me playing them.

>>720129243
>lots of build variety
>lots of pickups
>map is very well designed
>tons of game modes
>music is good
>bosses are really well designed

I have like 500 hours in it, it's without a doubt the best metroidvania ever made.

>>720129024
Question for you since I don't remember, did the enemies that dealt 2 damage in HK also did 2 contact damage?

>>720127129
>twisted bud
I smoked that shit in hs stay away /v/ros

>>720129272
>Hell even before that you can just face tank the bosses on the first half of the game and not even worry about dying
If you played Afterimage on "normal" then you didn't beat the game. It's the easy mode difficulty they added in patches because chinks complained too much. Expert (or whatever it's called) is the OG launch difficulty and the one the game was tuned for.

>>720128938
>>720129157
thanks i got it tried walljumping in that area like 3 times before i asked guess im just bad at finding holes

>find the halfway point bench in mount Fay
>90 rosaries
Okay this is the point I official consider this system bad. This is absolutely fucking retarded. It's a goddamn platforming section with no goddamn enemies to drop ANY rosaries! you can't expect players to have them ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU WORTHLESS FAGGOTS YOU HAD MAP GIRL AT THE START WHERE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE SPENT THEIR FUCKING MONEY
YOU WORTHLESS FUCKING CUNT DEVS.

>>720129105
Nice job anon. Enjoy the new main menu theme.

>>720129126
I've done every flea and out of all of them that one pissed me off the MOST. I was able to find the entrance to every other secret area organically for like 90% and then at the end I had missed like 5-6 fleas and had to backtrack or explore a few new places. None of them were as obtuse as that shit spot in the corner. FFS I even hit every single ceiling in that whole zone hoping that i'd bust through somewhere inevitably.

>>720129348
typical normie

>>720128935
>Blasphemous 1
Don't. It's kusoge. Especially after HK or Silksong.

>>720128967
a friend of mine is endlessly shilling this one to me and capping it off with "but i can't recommend it to you because i know you hate that fanservice-y gap moe anime shit". but i keep hearing nothing but good things.

>>720129439
Bro? Your beads?

>>720128662
it's not that bad, i ate 3 hits and still managed to complete it with ~2 ticks
i did it with the tool that makes you run faster for silk

>>720129439
that’s what the rosary necklace items are for niggy

>>720129272
>Blasphemous 2 was a direct upgrade on B1 and the bosses were really really fun.
Lmao I hold the precise opposite opinion
daggers were objectively dogshit because you had to be able to nohit bosses for them to not be trash, so not good for NG
I couldn't vibe with the mace despite trying due to the slow swings and everything staggering you
blades were my shit. and I preferred the boss design of 1. straight up dropped the dlc at the last dlc boss, it wasn't fun.

>>720126617
>that first item
IS THAT MY NIGGA HEGEMOL?

>>720128885
played 1 but >>720128935 reminded me that 2 is out and I definitely need to play it yeah. I just hated 1 having so many insta-death spike pits.


>>720128892
this can vary by quite a bit. I'd say first ending on a first run is doable in 12-20 hours depending on how good you are. However there's an entire third act you can do that adds another ending and a lot of content, so for 100% it's closer to 35-40 hours, but it's good shit.

>>720127712
Who cares about the story holy shit

>>720129497
>>720129535
WHAT PART OF THERE'S A MERCHANT AT THE START THAT ENCOURAGES SPENDING DID YOU MISS
YOU DO NOT BAIT PLAYERS INTO SPENDING THEN PUT A BENCH IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING PLATFORMING CHALLENGE LEVEL
GET FUCKING BENT FOR DEFENDING THIS GARBAGE.

>>720126947
Do you have the wall climb yet?

first sinner was fun boss fight but i wonder if theres a way to dodge forward slash attack if my attack connects with it

>>720129337
Afterimage is a complete mess. It was a crowdfunded game and they kept extending their goals because the chinks bandwagoned on it really hard. They ended up trying to impliment a metric shit tonne of ideas, but they were all done in a half assed way and none of them really hit. The only thing Afterimage has going for it is that it is really really big, but it is such a confusing directionless mess that you will get stuck about 6-8 hours in after you have gotten the first few movement upgrades wandering back and forth across this massive map looking for the super jump or triple jump because your progression will be completely blocked. $5 is a good price to not feel ripped off, but if you were looking for a good metroidvania that aint it. It falls into that Chinese power fantasy bullshit where you will be like a god compared to all the enemies really early in the game and there will be no challenge except the tedium of being forced to explore everything over and over again looking for a way to progess.

>>720129439
other guys are fags, you're alright. a lot of the time you can cheese silk by getting on hit on the closest enemy then running offscreen so his health resets. probably not there though. the rosary economy is fucked, I farmed 4-5k already and I'm not at the end yet.

>>720129490
absolutely, 100% fanservicey gap-moe anime shit, but the game is legit fun, well-designed and most of the cast grew on me anyways to the point you want to do post-game content just to give these dumb rabbit girls a happy ending. post-game content is also some of the hardest shit ever put in a metroidvania and would make silksong complainers have a seizure

don't play it around friends that aren't also total weebs, but do still play it.

>pay for bench in sinners road
is this shit serious

>>720129601
bro i had like 20 necklaces ready for situations like these. the game just shits those for you pre-strung and i rarely need to break them into individual beads but they're ideal for cases like that. a complaint i have is that enemies don't drop nearly as much money as they did in hollow knight and shit's expensive but i never ran into a "can't buy my bench" situation.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
WHERE ARE MY TOOLS
WHERE IS MY CREST
WHERE ARE MY FUCKING HEALS AAAAAAAAA

>fight trobbio
>completely fucking tilted about the fucking double damage everywhere, I actually play worse against this faggot looking bug
Honestly, if I ever replay this game instead of the original HK, that no double damage mod is instantly getting installed. Fuck this shit.

>>720129775
Congrats, you got aids

>>720129514
This plus the other tool that regens silk faster + the active use flea tool that lets you attack faster will ALSO boost your movement speed. I used the super boosted movement speed on the straight areas where I didnt have to turn very much. If you decide to do this though you are betting it ALL on speed and you will be down a single tool if you run into any enemies that you cant avoid. Imo the little autonomous bugs made the later deliveries easy mode, im glad that I did the gourmet quest before I got that tool. Ironically the little fuckers will just delete anything labeled as an enemy so if you have them active in the ice mountain they will just delete what you were about to jump to lol.

>>720129775
that whole sidequest was pretty brutal but not that long. just make sure you have 220 rosaries at hand.

>>720129661
Yeah, I saw some complaints but for 5 bucks I said "fuck it why not". As for that Chinese power fantasy, that does 100% happen in chinese games but I also feel like for most metroidvanias that's how it goes; you start out weak but by the end of most games in the genre you're a fucking monster going around annihilating shit like it's nothing unless it's an endgame boss

>>720129814
>the one NPC I thought would help can't
fuck
>>720129861
>ZERO rosaries
FUCK

What's with the critical hit-like sound I get sometime when striking enemies?

>>720129904
just to save you some frustration, the major in bellhart is usually a good "guide" for situations like these. also just talk to npcs whenever you can because they all give hints not just for this sidequest but for other stuff as well.

>>720129913
Probably focus from hunters crest, it also boosts damage by a flat amount.

>>720129159
shit alright. Might use it on a case by case basis. If I find a really bad runback I might install it, beat the boss, then uninstall it.

>>720129913
i was wondering the same for the longest time, it really seems like it's simply a critical hit. it hits for like 3x damage.
>>720130013
i use wanderer's crest 100% of the time and i get that too.

>>720129539
The Censur was my go to weapon for most of the game. If you slot your alterpieces right to always have the flame on, and turn the flame to poison it is fantastic. Being able to switch between your weapons on the fly to handle whatever boss you find yourself facing is so nice. I legit love B2.

>>720129412
No, I played on hard. You can burn down both of Renee's turns with the true final boss in seconds with the Up Dual Blades+Down Scythe combo and simply spin to win. Equip the Nosferatu fangs and you are invincible. The game is piss easy, wuxia nonsense.

>deliveries
:D

>>720129802
doing my "100% in sub-30 hours" cheevo next, and I'm probably installing:
>no double damage
>compass and magnet always on (and attracts shards)
>easy delivery quest (so you don't need to do the fucking treks to food guy and mount fay again)
>1-kill for journal entries so you don't need to grind out certain enemies for the journal (this is just me being autistic though, hunter's journal is not required for 100%)

intended difficulty was cool and fun but now i just wanna run around Pharloom, look for potential skips and just enjoy myself more

>floor is literally lava section
no
no
nonon
onononono
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>720130073
>>compass and magnet always on (and attracts shards)
This is the only mod I'd relent on. this not being something by default is fucking shit.

>>720130013
>>720130047
Same here, using Wanderer's crest

>>720130073
>>compass and magnet always on (and attracts shards)
developing spacial reasoning skills for me to have the magnet perma-on has been such a blessing for me.

Pompillo fucking sucks why did I waste craftmetal on this

>>720129876
You will be OP like an hour into the game. The only difficult part of the true final boss is that the fight is divided up into three parts with one part being where you play as the "OP" side story character and considering how broken the secret techniques are for the MC that OP character just looks weak in comparision. Part one and three of the fight where you play the MC are over in literally seconds, while it can take up to a minute with the side character because you have to move and adjust for that phase of the boss since you aren't a meatgrinder bouncing across the screen.

i wish there was more yapping like in nine sols

>>720130186
it's hard to tell since we don't know how much damage anything does yet

reaper crest feels awful holy shit

>>720130282
Really? I fucking like it. Only thing I don't like is how slow it is.
Otherwise its made platforming infinitely easier.

>>720130186
Because when you max out your sharpeners it becomes a
>Fuck you I don't want to deal with this shit
button for dealing with mobs. also there is enough craftmetal in the game to buy everything that needs it.

>>720130186
serious? i abuse the shit out of it, it melts big enemies especially in gauntlets. everyone was having horrible trouble at the gauntlet in high halls meanwhile i saved my pompillo for the last waves and raped them.

>>720130282
my nigga take those words back.
first, try sprinting and then attacking and see what kind of possibilities it opens up. then, that crest totally deshittifies pogos so all parkour and aerial combat is made easy.

how many of these fleas do I have to juggle? I'm about to quit

I'M TIRED
I'M TRIED OF FUCKING ANTS
ALL ANTS NEED TO HANG

>>720130282
use wanderer crest then, same thing except slightly shorter range but way faster.

I really hope they're not going to nerf the game while I'm still playing it.

>>720130352
>Only thing I don't like is how shit and bad and terrible it makes the game feel
I'd gotten used to the diagonal pogo and really come to like hornet's speed. this shit just feels like im running underwater
>>720130375
>try sprinting and then attacking and see what kind of possibilities it opens up all of a sudden
dont have sprint yet
>>720130437
dont have it

Hear me out. Mr. Mushroom cradle ascent... but with beast crest.

>>720126716
>Life form inside you
>Forced to carry it around
>Makes you sick, consumes nutrients, weakens you
>It can't live on its own, depends on leeching off you for survival
I mean, I don't think TC was going for it being an abortion reference at all, it's obviously literal here, but the comparison writes itself if you wanted to look for it.

Massive thanks to whoever recommended the cloak from the Architect in one of the previous threads, this shit feels like the final solution to the flier problem.

>>720130127
Compass even being a thing in HK1 was weird, but it being only 1 charm notch made it pretty easy to ignore or take it off for boss fights.

With how much bigger Silksong is (you are ALWAYS finding new shit and hidden passages), the compass feels so much more mandatory yet yellow slots are much more limited so if you want to not get economy-fucked on rosaries falling around, you need to have 2 yellow slots reserved for compass and magnet. Yes, you get Yellow and Blue Vesticrest slots that are universal, but only one of each so you still need to reserve 1 yellow anyways.

It's just a really archaic design decision, the map system I don't even like but I get that it incentives exploring a new area when you reach it. Compass/Magnet trinkets just kill build variety and it sucks.
>>720130181
what do you mean, just not having it on and getting them manually? That works but a lot of stuff falls down gaps and I mainly just have it on to save time.
>>720130279
there's a healthbar mod out now that also has damage numbers, so I'm gonna do a fresh 100% run, (since my tools are all maxed out on damage/capacity in my current save) and test shit out

>>720130246
that does sound like it kinda blows. ah well, if the map is fun to explore and run around it for at least a couple hours I'll call it not a total loss.

>>720130491
how the hell did you get the reaper crest without getting the literal first upgrade in the game

>>720130379
There's a score board to the right

>>720130491
I like diagonal pogo too but my brain is diametrically opposed to using it when I did PoP using pogo.
Also longer range more than makes up for it being slow I feel.

>>720129559
>I just hated 1 having so many insta-death spike pits.
good news, they just deal damage in 2.

>>720129412
>>720130058
even tho i recommended it, afterimage difficulty is all over the place.
some bosses 2 shot you, while others you can literally facetank, even without sequence breaking an area earlier than normal.

it's no silksong, but as far as 20+ hours MV go, there's not that many with an even passable standard of quality.

going for all endings took me 29 hours apparently

>>720130282
t. SICK FUCK

>>720128054
Get captured

>>720130551
>what do you mean
i mean that for most people having the compass on is essential but it uses the same slot as the magnet so they have to choose, at least at first, while i had the luxury of having the magnet on always.

Can someone PLEASE draw me the path I'm supposed to go so I can get the FUCK out of this godforsaken place? I am so FUCKING tired of dying to the cold.

What part of the Witch's crest leeches life from enemies?

I almost want to start a second playthrough, but after wandering in the world for hours for the true end, I'd probably just get burned out fast. Also I really want to know what exactly you need to start act 3.

>>720130603
>spikes no longer instant kill in Blasphemous 2
shit my dude that's all you had to say

>>720130551
>that does sound like it kinda blows. ah well, if the map is fun to explore and run around it for at least a couple hours I'll call it not a total loss.
Yeah the map is really huge, the environments are distinctive enough to be interesting. Enemy variety is very good even if they pose zero challenge. Again the period between unlocking double jump and swimming to unlocking triple jump and space jump is fucking TEDIOUS. Plus even on hardmode there is zero challenge so as interesting as the fighting game style secret techniques are it just kind of feels like a waste since once you unlock two specific ones there will really be no need to use anything else throughout the rest of the game.

>>720130648
up...? how are you getting lost in a place where you just have to climb up? up from the right side, by the way.

>>720130760
You see that spot I died? I literally have no idea where I was supposed to go from there

>>720130585
alright I quit

>>720130694
i'd just look it up, i got a few hints on how to get act 3, mainly finding all fleas, which gets significantly easier if you find the NPC in the putrid area (forgot the name) that joins the caravan and sells you flea marks in your map

>>720130570
idk ive just been exploring. i figured it wouldnt be a huge feal if i missed stuff since id probably loop back around but i think i might have been wrong about that since this map seems far more linear than HKs. right now im trying to get back to hunters march since i have the cape thingy to let me progress past where i got to last time there and i want to revisit the shop. but i dont see an obvious way out of greymoor to go down there. i just hit moorwing so i guess i have to kill him but i cant be fucked running back to a bench (its respawning me at the reapers temple thingy instead of a bench) to change my crest so im slogging through with reapers even though my moveset feels fucked up

>finally beat seth
>another boss fight right after

how the fuck

this true ending is miles harder to get than HK's

>>720130795
try going up from there

>>720126354
>2nd bench in bilewater
Nani?

>>720130603
>as far as 20+ hours MV go
There's also Vigil, a TW metroidvania heavily inspired by Bloodborne, it's decent if you don't mind the paperdoll animations

>>720130694
so far it appears to be
>doing most of the available sidequests up to Act 2
>yes this includes the shit-ass deliveries but only the unique item ones, repeatable supplies aren't needed
>you don't need ALL fleas but you do need enough to where they move to their final location in the Putrified Ducts
this got me to act 3

>>720130914
just google the map. it's behind a bullshit breakable wall just like 100% of the important stuff that can be easily missed

>>720130648
First things first go save at the rightmost bed then hop up from the shortcut you unlocked. It's really just a matter of climbing up from that point onwards. It's a lot easier than the faggot frozen lake section in the middle imo.

>>720130795
well... keep climbing. i can't really make a path for you right now since i don't have my switch at hand but i don't see how you could get lost there. the climb is pretty hard though i'll give you that.

>>720130921
I thought Vigil got delisted and couldn't be bought any more because of some drama between the dev and the publisher.

>>720130731
Grab the DLC, it's like 30% of the game, multiple areas, bosses and a whole weapon are locked behind it.

>>720130648
You are supposed to go up. Climb up until you find an air draft that will take all the way to the top.
And then you get the double jump that also protects you from cold.

>finally get to the end of Bilewater
>die to the horde battle dozens of times, let alone dying during the runback
>FINALLY defeat the horde, epic slowdown and everything
>lol nope here's the REAL boss
>die
>get back to the arena
>have to fight the horde phase again
This may be the worst segment in the game so far, jesus fucking christ how are you supposed to do this?

>>720130994
The devs regained the rights somewhat recently, they even updated something, perhaps they're still working on that DLC they planned to make all along.

I LOVE RUNNING OUT OF SILK DURING A PLATFORMING SECTION THEN FALLING BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH

>>720131072
shit like this is souring my experience with this game, how did they think it was even remotely okay?

>>720131072
Honestly, probably the hardest fight in the game

>>720125381
You get like 5 free hits its not that hard

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE HEATING LAMP ON THIS SCREEN

>>720131090
yeah git gud scrub, no hiveblood cheese here

>>720130603
Not a 20+ hour MV, but Astalon is really good. The platforming is tight, the exploration and puzzle elements are some of the best in the genre. The only downside is that the bosses tend to be on the easier side. I have 24 hours into it because I played through the three optional modes to get my 100%. Seriously if you like La Mulana style exploration and puzzles Astalon is where it is at. You will end up backtracking two to three times to each room and it won't even feel like a chore because there are so many times where you just know there is a secret you haven't found in that room yet and will come back later to be proven right.

>>720129972
gotcha, thanks

>>720131191
Where did you die now ?

after ~15 hours i feel like if they just started you with the wanderers crest and hornets awful pogo was the unlockable moveset everyone would love this game

>Rosaries are scarce
>Meanwhile...

>>720131072
i was crashing out pretty bad at that shit decision as well but taking my time with the horde so that i reach the boss with full health made it pretty easy, also that boss gets utterly destroyed by you pogo'ing on it lol

i genuinely have to wonder what the fuck makes william think those kind of decisions are good ones.

>>720125471
Wheres that

>>720131072.
>>720131157
>>720131171
You can cheese it by hiding in the worm water

>>720131245
How am I supposed to survive when there's no heating lamp upon entering that screen???

>>720131191
if you had kept running to the left you'd have found it on a wall.

>>720131206
>comparison to La-Mulana
you had my interest, now you have my attention.

Is there any godseeker style area to replay bosses or anything?

the fuck do I do with this guy

>>720131302
There are a few along the way, on the left side on a wall. Just make sure you don't accidentally hit the lamp with your nail.

>>720131310
This level is absolute pinnacle of dogshit design and I will not accept any arguments against this cold (heh) hard fact.

>>720126418
>spend like 10 hours exploreing everything in act 2
>now i need to do it again in act 3
FUCK

>>720131261
funtown 2 aka bilewater

>>720131302
you are such a faggot crybaby dude holy shit

>>720131302
By getting the Ancestral Art in that area and coming back once you are immune to the cold.

>>720131302
how the hell did you reach this point in the game without hitting walls? hit this wall nigga there's a bench here.

that's very cute

>>720123665 (OP)
game bad because hard

>>720131302
just watch a video on yt showing the route
this area is only mandatory to get to act 3

>>720131072
you should be full hp and fully charged by the time the boss pops.
you can hit all the enemies when they jump out of the ground and also sometimes when they drop.
the only remotely difficult to dodge mobs are the dart spitters and they can't shoot below them.

Use the boomrangs/curveclaws to melt the boss hps, as for most bosses.

Is this thing good to use ?

>>720131378
some dude in another board was saying "holy shit mount fay locks an important upgrade behind some path of tier level bullshit!" and i completed it in like 15 minutes. i really have to wonder how bad people are at platforming or how hard they panic the moment they start slipping.

>go get the vaultkeeper song or something I don't even fucking care at this point
>have to go through tunnels with hazards that deals double damage of course
>there's two optional paths
>one leads to yet another fucking shard rock
>the other leads to some dead bug that does fucking nothing except give some dialogue when you use completely pointless needolin
7 fucking years to shit out a map that has fucking nothing to collect in it except for currency bundles. What a fucking scam.

>>720131450
For me it is playing for the bell beast when it is taking a nap just to watch it wake up and sing along. Also I like playing for the Atlas Beetle and listening to him sing his song of strength and wild freedom.

>>720126980
>>720127178
What?... shes pretty simple

>>720131498
where is this nigga? I've only seen him in the jail and then he dissapeared.

>>720131302
Wasnt he supposed to go up from the left incline ?

>>720131498
No, it's actually, and I'm not joking, an anti-loot item. The description implies it steals rosaries and you take them, but it actually REDUCES their rosary drop amount, but the harpoon itself does more damage. I dunno why they worded it this way.

Tested everything to check damage number, here what I got. My nail and tool pouch are fully upgraded. Note that for spells, I used shaman crest, it seems to increase spell damage by 10-15%, was too lazy to retry with a normal crest.
Do tell me if you want something else tested.
>Nail
Nail hit (hunter, reaper, wanderer, beast, witch, shaman): 21
Nail hit (boosted hunter): 26 (damage increases only when the bar is fully filled)
Nail hit (architect): 23 (19+2*2)
>Spells
Silkspear: 74
Thread Storm: 130 (26*5)
Cross Stitch: 92 (23*4)
Sharpdart: 62 (52+5+5)
Rune Rage: 143 (69+34+23+17, 4 circles hitting enemy, seems to be decreasing with each hit)
Pale Nails: 96 (32*3)
Volt filament: +5 damage (only add it once, doesn't work with multihit)
>Tools
Straight Pin: 19
Threefold Pin: 27 (15+7+5, like rune rage, decreases with each hit)
Sting Shard: 40 (8*5)
Tacks: 80 (8*10)
Longpin: 19
Curveclaw: 55 (11*5)
Throwing Ring: 15
Pimpillo: 57
Conchcutter: 40 (8*5, can maybe hit more on larger enemy)
Silkshot (forge daughter version): 23
Delver's Drill: 75 (15*5)
Cogwork Wheel: 32 (8*4, can maybe hit more depending on the room and enemy size)
Cogfly: 66 (11*6)
Rosary Cannon: 4 (per hit/use)
Voltvessels (spear mode): 68 (13+11*5)
Voltvessels (bola mode): 49 (5+11*4)
Nail hit with Flintstate: 35
Poison: 8 (4*2)

>>720131191
>>720131378
the mountain is on the left and you have to climb... so if you get up with an opening to the left you should go there

>>720131206
>>720131351
>Astalon
>On sale rn for two more days

oh shit. I might nab it myself.

>>720131567
Explore the Blasted Steps and you will see each other and he will escape to his hidden base. Come back later once you get some upgrades and you can buy his shit.

>>720131567
He shows in the the citadel, the slab, and then seems to have settle down in a left top corner at the blasted steps selling this stuff.

The bosses in this game feel too over designed compared to Hollow Knight. Like I could tell that the Mantis Lords were praying mantises’ and the Dung Defender was a beetle. I’m not sure what the Last Judge is supposed to be.

I will suck bug cocks for rosaries.

>>720131604
does reaper not do more damage?

>>720131530
I liked the little scene when the bridge was fixed in Bone Bottom and they were commemorating the pilgrim that died in the Skull Tyrant attack. Playing the Needolin gives them lyrics to their song too which is neat

Absolutely hate how imperceptive I am when in panic mode

Still fucking hate this area. This is anti-fun

did i-frames get changed from hollow knight? i feel like its so easy to get pushed into a corner and basically take 6 masks of damage from boss hit -> touching the boss -> second boss hit.

>>720131707
No, reaper is quite low dps, wanderer is by far the best crest for damage, you get about twice as much hit and it can crit (didn't manage to get one to know how much damage crit does).

I'm still in act 1.
what's the best way to farm analbeads?

>>720131670
yeah? what's this?

>>720131801
Wouldn't Beast be the best for DPS?

>>720131716
dunno what to tell you, i fucking love tough platforming and that place delivered. i assume you haven't done the cogwork core.

>>720131604
>boosted hunter adds what is basically nail upgrade
>thread storm mogs everything besides rune rage for damage
>volt filament is fucking useless (except maybe on pale nails where it's 3 projectiles so +15 damage total)
>tacks are fucking INSANE
>bombs, cogfly, and drill are really good too
>flintslate boosts nail damage by roughly +33%, even more if it's a poison flintslate which basically makes it +50% nail damage, not counting poison being +8 damage to all the other shit too

I fucking knew poison flintslate was the way to go, but I was sleeping on the ranged options and just using Longpin to apply poison.

>>720131819
Kickstarter backer bug doesn’t count

>>720131819
ghost bug original character donut steel

>>720129913
I'm almost 100% sure that happens when you parry an enemies attack frame 1. I have no idea what it does but I think it just negates pushback entirely

what's the correct entrance to this area? couldn't find it via the underworks

>>720131885
Beast is slower than wanderer and can't crit.

>>720131887
I fought the dancing cog bugs, so I think so?

>>720131815
Greymoor at Halfway Home seems to be ok. Jus tgo right, kill the three pilgrims, and dart back to reset.

>this groal the great walk back
you cannot be fucking serious

>>720131943
the cogwork is a whole ass area (that becomes accessible after you beat them) so it sounds like you haven't done it. just prepare yourself mentally for it then, string your rosaries into necklaces preemptively.

Look at my spider wife go.

Where the FUCK is Sharpe?

>>720131936
there's a place you can jump to from the top of Greymoor, it's in the image there. don't remember if you need act 3's super jump since it was one of the last areas I found

>>720131936
DER
KESSEL

>>720132028
is this real?

God, finally I can play the game

im done, ive called a lot of bosses dogshit that ended up being decent (raging conchfly, sister splinter, beastfly etc.) but I CANNOT DEAL WITH GROAL, GIVE ME A CHEESE

>>720132092
congrats.

>>720131206
oh yeah, astalon is good.
some of the runbacks/re-exploring some areas can be a pain in the ass tho, definitely needed more checkpoints.

>three optional modes
eh, not my cup of tea, given that apparently the map doesn't change much if at all.
still a pretty hefty game

>>720131997
The ultimate filter
i can't wait until normies catch up and experience it. reading the complaints about beastfly is hilarious in comparison

>>720132115
Hide in the water

>>720132086
yes, there's a tool you can equip which allows you to backdash and this is what it looks like

No spoilers please, but can I get all endings in a single save and is there a point of no return? I want to explore everything before I actually finish the game.

Does anyone enjoy the courier quests?

>>720131997
you're gonna learn and you're gonna like bilewater by the end i promise

>>720132115
pogo on him. seriously, that shit will destroy him. also just heal in one of the top corners of the room.

Post yfw magnetite dice activates multiple times in a row

>>720132181
i did as much as i felt comfortable doing without finishing everything i considered side content before i tried going up and beat the game and it's just a hollow knight situation, you can keep playing.

>>720132028
Man i wish this was useful in anyway shape or form

What's up with this dude? Does he really have nothing for me right now?

lol the little gauntlet at the end of reapers march just being "hey lets fill the screen with dogshit and half of it will damage you and half of it won't". team hack does it again

>comfy silksong thread
I think it should be INTENSE silksong thread. It fits better with the gameplay

>>720132368
Aquire skill

>>720132115
>>720132224
oh also there's a silk room before the boss in case you wanna heal if taking damage before the arena or something.

the bombs tool also fucking destroys the boss.

>>720132193
The devs apparently
but i didn't mind them in silksong, the flower was worse, especially delivering it to other recipients than the grave

If I don't do the skull tyrant quest will little pilgrim live forever?

>>720131890
>boosted hunter adds what is basically nail upgrade
It's only when fully charged (hitting like 10 times without getting hit), otherwise it's same as other crest, 21 damage.
>volt filament is fucking useless (except maybe on pale nails where it's 3 projectiles so +15 damage total)
It doesn't work on pale nails, it's like a bit delayed kinda like poison, you would need a spell that hit very slowly to do the 5 damage multiple times.
>tacks are fucking INSANE
Yeah, was surprised and retested as I thought I had something wrong, you only put 5 down, but they each hit twice.
>cogfly, and drill are really good too
Cogfly in particular is quite good because with how slow it is, you get poison damage on each of those hit, adding up to 114 damage.
>flintslate boosts nail damage by roughly +33%, even more if it's a poison flintslate which basically makes it +50% nail damage, not counting poison being +8 damage to all the other shit too
I have some bad news anon, with poison, it reduces damage to 27, so it's really not worth to use poison with flintslate. I guess I should retest some others tools with poison, but for most it doesn't change base damage.

Do the other crests get evolutions like hunter?
Are the tools from this mechanical bug lady in the citadel good?

>>720132152
One of the modes is a boss rush that is kinda cool because of the way you have to choose what powerups to select. So you end up weighing what to take so that you can complete it. Monster Mode and Black Knight mode are just alt ways to play the game with OP characters that don't have to get every traversal skill in order to complete the game. They are challenge/meme runs just to see what the game would be like if you didn't have the party's handicaps.

>>720132153
TC will 100% patch the cheese on that fight before the shitters get there and they will just seethe about how unfair it is that they can't cheese it lmao.

>>720132468
Each crest has some special thing to it, hunter starts with none, which is why it gets that upgrade.

>>720132431
Yes, but you can't get the true ending. Evidentally you can save Pilby if you learn his name.

>>720132313
It works on walls too, which can make certain longer climbs slightly more funny. Beyond that the skitters best utility is just having access to a fast aerial backdash.

If I miss something in act 2 can I still get everything in act 3?

>>720132470
what groal cheese method are u talking abt

>>720132295
Oh so after the credits my save file will be at the last bench before the final bossfight? Neat.

>>720132569
>fast aerial backdash.
But you can just dash in that direction normally

This fucking game loves cockblocking me with items that are clearly visible in the same room, but not yet accessible.

>>720132637
yeah.

Cringe:
Call the bell beast
Play needolin for the bell beast

BASED:
Pogo off the bell beast

>>720132331
hit him

>>720132525
i see

>>720132669
literally go around anon it takes like 2 mins

>>720132569
it overwrites downdashing

>>720132669
lol Dont worry, that won't be accessible in a while.

>>720132715
I will not violate the NAP

>>720132115
poison cogwork beetles

>Blasted steps
i was chuckling for a minute because all i could think about was Goddamn Stairs or Fucking Escalator

>>720132634
Hide in the worm water. Almost nothing but his smash attack can hit you, so you can just poke at him at your leisure for an ezpz W

>>720132728
does anyone actually downdash

>>720132767
doesn't he spawn adds too during his fight

>>720132181
You can, but one is a missable challenge ending. Don’t worry about it on your first playthrough. There is no point of no return

i wonder how much they paid the guy whose job it was to warn them when they were getting too close to making a fun game. whoa that lace fight was a little too cool, better make them fight generic flying enemies for an hour again..

>>720132331
If you bring the Ruined Tool to him he will make the best of the three versions of the Silk Shot, a fucking laser cannon.

>>720132181
there is one ending you can lock yourself out of, but it's 100% not intended for a first run and you have to fuck yourself over pretty hard for it on purpose. 100% and all other endings is doable on 1 save though.

for the last ending just beat the final boss while cursed in act 2. if you don't know what curse is, you'll know later. curing it is part of the "side quest" but technically you don't actually need to, finishing the game with it gets you a cursed ending and apparently nukes that save file

wouldn't it be funny if hornet were to be filled with bunch of maggots
HAHA silly me

>>720132820
They can't touch you in the water.

>>720132838
>Ruined Tool

No idea what that is. I'm guessing I'm still in the super early game.

>>720132652
It's got it's rare uses and it's also used to access a secret area because it lowers your size...

wouldn't it be funny if hornet were to be filled with bunch of tentacles
HAHA silly me

what is it with hornet and wanting to pet the furry bugs

>>720132115
poison boomrangs

>>720132876
*NOM*
Thanks for the silk, kind stranger!

well now that dont seem right

>>720132923
It's an item in Bilewater. You can get it before act 2, but the only version of the Silk Shot you can make in act 1 is the worst. It looks the coolest of the three and so I got it, but I kinda regret that decision once I saw what the mask maker could make for me.

>>720132437
>poison actually nerfs flintslate
>I was really doing next to nothing everytime I used it during a tense boss battle
you are fucking KIDDING ME AHHHHHHHHHHHHH i still beat the fucking game 100% tho, I can say I won even with a shit build

>>720127038
There's sex and relationships in this game? I've never played either but idk these bug characters look too cartoonish to reproduce sexually imo they're like on the same level as the among us people or minecraft characters

>>720132764
that damned incline

>>720133014
team cherry genuinely just making whatever the fuck they want whether you like it or not, damn.

How the fuck are you supposed to do this

>>720132870
Wait, it nukes the save file?

Act 3 anon help. Is there anything missable pass act 2

>>720125907
My nigga.

>>720132805
sometimes i need to fix my height in a hurry

What the fuck are these games even about?

bros we have to do something, the normalfags keep calling for a difficulty nerf

>>720133116
go to the left theres a wall u wall climb on

>>720133014
Is this actually for real or this is for le scare

>>720133159
bugs under mind control.

>>720133132
Im guessing it gives you a different ending meaning now you cant get all endings in one run

>>720132830
>>720132870
Cool, thanks. I most likely won't be starting a new save after finishing the game (at least not for a while) so knowing I can get back to exploring after seeing the basic bitch ending is a relief.

>>720133163
as much as i hate some of the double damage shit it's needed for the game to not devolve into facetank heaven like so much of HK can with a half decent nail setup.

>could've been a great crest
>but they gave it a dogshit heal that requires you to be in melee range
FUCKING

>>720133193
It's real and it is ActVI

>>720133132
I haven't confirmed but I've read multiple instances of anons stating that. It's something you're intended to go for on a different save after beating the game, like I would be shocked if someone went and finished the game while critically debuffed and every NPC you talk to is like "Hornet what the FUCK is going on with you, you look like shit.
Pretty sure people only got it this fast because the achievement descriptions basically spoils how to get the cursed ending so you can just look at hidden achievements and tell right away that it's even possible

>>720133159
its some high falutin soulsy thing. authoritarian tyrants and well-meaning kings gone bad.

>unlock bench in sinners Road
>it doesn't actually come up
>manage to find a secret room
>go in
>platforming and pogoing
>die in that room
>last place I rested was in Greymoor
>had 1000 beads on me
this is actually cruel.

>>720133014
>>720132870
is there a video of it?

>>720131072
there's a lot of shit like that where you have to spend minutes getting back to trying the hard part again. it's mmo fight design, where you run from the instance portal to the boss fight and then you have to get the boss low again to try to progress. time waste city.

>>720133359
you might have the item that lets you retrieve your cocoon

>>720133116
I just spent an hour on that cock and ball torture. Just keep at it, Anon. You'll get it eventually.

>>720133478
If I did I wouldn't know what it was.

>>720132870
Wait so if i did the side quest and cured me of aids im good? I kind of stumbled on it and was bummed id missed out on the normal ending

Serious question: Am I stupid for only using the default crest? I really don't see the benefit of using any of them over it when I'm so used to the diagonal pogo.

>>720133116
You pressed the FLOAT action instead of waiting for Hornet to raise up after the harpoon.

>>720133283
It would be too op to have even normal healing

>>720133132
It doesn't. I got Cursed ending yesterday then afterward I cleared the curse and started on Act 3.

>>720133037
Well, you still do the same amount of damage or more if you are slow between hit, it seems to apply 3 stacks of poison instead of 2 like most tools, so in the end you do 39 damage. Note that even with multiple hits, you still only get 3 ticks of poison, it doesn't really stack.

>>720133526
yeah, you're intended to get it and cure it since that's how you get the Crest of the Witch which you need for 100% completion.

i'm surprised at the sheer amount of people who are doing act 3 not only here but on twitter and stuff. i haven't had time to start going for it myself but don't you have to do every single wish and find every single flea for it? that seems pretty hardcore.

>>720133554
fuck my ESL is showing. a sleepless night on silksong's not good for the mind

I finally figured out what causes Eva to give up upgrades
It's using memory lockets. So if you're hoarding them like me you'll get fuck all upgrades

>>720133116
when you harpoon an enemy it gives you quite a bit of height. you canceled that jump into a glide too early

>>720131604
Added some charms damage values:
>Sawtooth Circlet: 14 (13+1)
>Claw Mirrors: 66 (30+12*3)
>Memory Crystal: 20
>Wispfire Lantern: 10
>Nail hit with Barbed Bracelet: 26

>>720132805
I actually ended up doing it naturally in the final fight and some others.
>>720133193
Both
>>720133283
They should have gone all the way and make that heal a counter imo.

>>720133672
you do need to do all the sidequests but the quest board makes this MUCH simpler than HK1
you also don't need every flea, just enough to move them to their last location, so simply exploring around normally should be enough to get you to act 3

>>720133553
All the other creast aside from arguably reaper and the drill one have one horrid downside that makes them literally unusable

>>720133553
Some are better suited for some things than others. Plus the diagonal pogo is unironically one of the hardest movements in the game to get used to, really.

>>720133339
I think what people mean when they're saying it fucks your save is that the curse state is a horrendous downgrade until you remove it so if you're going for that ending don't get cursed until you're really truly ready because it will suck to try to do any other content while cursed. And then once you get un-cursed you can't go back. It's two points of no return.

>>720133791
>second spoiler
oh really? i moved them all and then bought the npc's map markers to find the 6 i'm missing thinking i had to do that. neat that it's just bonus stuff.

>>720133686
Holy shit I've only been using Hunter Crest so I've just held on to those, thank you.

>>720133359
You can get to the sinner's road bench quite fast safely.
The only threat is the shuriken tossing flying fucker in front of the room

Bros the platforming segment after getting Silk Soar and escaping the Abyss made my hands sweaty this game is going to filter so many more people who want to go for act 3.

>22 hours
>sill in Act 1
HELP!

>>720133925
I got back to it. i was literally at the end of the jumping puzzle to turn the bench on

>>720133553
the only thing that kills experimenting with crests for me is how some of them override healing and/or have shit slots for charms. but the wanderer one has been perfect for me and i've never swapped it.

This + Poison = GOAT

>>720133961
>HELP!
with what?

>>720133116
some people said this part was easy. I have no idea how the last part with all the crumbling platforms was easy. I spent a good 4-5 hours on this and I admit I'm not great at platformers but holy shit it was frustrating, especially with the freeze timer nagging you constantly

>>720133924
Yeah it's kinda fucked since most of the early crests suck but it's 100% the trigger literally talked to her she said fuck off, used 3 crests right in front of her and she immediately gave me an upgrade

>>720134093
i thought those were gonna suck but holy shit they absolutely rape big enemies.

Forgebrothers is the easiest boss.
Literally just mantis lords but easier.

This guy was supposed to be alive to sell me stuff ? Did I miss anything by not reaching him in time ?

>>720134247
Shut the fuck up

>>720134157
oh shit i have like 6 of those. thanks anon gonna start eating those up.

wow savage beastfly is not a fun fight

>>720134338
Forgot the image

alright the wanderers crest seems so fucking good, basically re-creation of original HK move set, it feels a lot better than reaper even without the extra silk generation after binding. also having 3 yellows 2 blue 1 red slots just seems better than 2/2/2.
the 2 memory locket per upgrade is making me pause tho. am I trapping myself? is there anything even better later?

>>720130530
pregnancy makes women stronger by a order of magnitude

>>720134570
The mask and boomerang should be available elsewhere, but yeah, you missed out on a chance to get two of the best early game items in the early game.

>>720134643
>The mask and boomerang should be available elsewhere
I found those, but was there anything else he was selling ?

Does it have a coliseum part?

>>720134157
>>720134371
I meant memory lockets not crests but yeah you get the point I had 8 stashed away no wonder I only got the first upgrade

>>720134572
I really really REALLY like the Architect crest, but that comes way later in the game. It is fine to spend your lockets on Wanderer if you like it's moveset. It has decent movement and really good DPS. There are enough lockets to upgrade every crest, even if you won't get them all until way later. So if you like it go for it.

>>720134682
I think some shard bundles and maybe rosary strings, but that is it.

>>720124183
No way they do this. You're lying, right? I didn't get double jump yet. Don't tell me they literally muscle memory you into one input just to change it later. For what fucking purpose? If anything just make it down+jump from the start, but ideally it just fucking doubles on tap and floats on hold...

>>720133686
used 4 lockets and she acts like nothing happened :(
weird cuz ive only gotten hunter+ from her ever since the start of the game

>>720134570
I wonder if the reason he is killed is because he could be a mimic ant.

>>720124183
>>720134872
Nothing changes, you still hold the jump button to glide. You are just forced to use your double jump first

>>720134367
I beat them second try.
First try the second brother surprised me.

>>720134936
You need at least 4 crests on top of the locket use to get the first Vesticrest upgrade. Hunter, Wanderer, Reaper, and Beast should do it.

>>720133686
Stop saying this, it's not true. It's based on your unlocked crests. I have all act 2 crests maxed and I only got the second vesticrest after architect was obtained.

>>720129764
The biggest difference is bosses bizarrely don't drop money anymore

>>720134985
He died because he was in love or something related.

>>720133023
wow that's fucking lame, actually the only missable item(s) huh

>>720135117
there's usually a chest with a shitton of beads near it though but yeah.

>>720135069
Might be both then
I literally
>went to her
>she told me to fuck off
>used 3 memory lockets
>she gave me the blue omni slot

Okay, how the fuck did you guys have issues with the second bloatfly fight? You have more space, the adds still die to a single spear throw and the boss itself has only two attacks. You can hear it charging when it's off screen and it seems to do some input reading as in it will charge higher if you're jumping and lower if you're just standing on the ground. Just don't commit to a fucking jump before you see the charge and you can punish the charge every time with a pogo/upswing.

For anyone still stuck there, equip the magma bell so the adds don't damage you for 2 and deal with them asap. If you beat the first encounter you can definitely do the second one.

>>720135069
It is, had 100% completion and missing 2 eva upgrades, used all my memory lockets an got those 2 upgrades. Might simply be total number of tools slots and with a new crest, you also do get some new tools slots.

>>720135179
Bosses and gauntlet rooms should 100% be dropping currency and it's weird that they don't because it's where you lose the most using your tools and dying and such

>>720124183
game would've been better without double jump true

>>720133116
You're too fast with the float ability. Let Hornet get some air after the harpoon.

>>720135008
It messes up the controls when you need to jump and glide through a narrow space with spiked ceiling.

>>720135482
can use grappling hook 4 that
its basically the safe way of going through narrow shit

>>720132805
I didn't even know you could dash down.

>>720135482
gotta say, i really haven't had an issue with this. for me the double jump immediately hijacked my mind into remembering that a second jump input will cause the double jump instead of the float.

Is there enough memory lockets to fully upgrade every crest or you can go fuck yourself?

You must be joking

I really, really don't want to do this quest...

>>720135869
Guess you dont want that nail upgrade...

>>720135794
What do I need to open that one ?

>>720135869
locking the weapon upgrade behind this is madness

>>720135978
>>720136016
I could live without the needle upgrade honestly, but im pretty sure the 3rd act is locked behind completing all the wishes

>>720135986
Act 3 apparently

>>720136016
Its the final needle upgrade, it trivialize the rest of the game, 5x base damage is just ridiculous, might as well make you work for it

>>720135978
there's another way to get pale oil anyway.