Thread 720163185

The graceful, yet deadly, half spider princess, Hornet.

>>720163185 (OP)
She’s also half wyrm

I dunno where to go to find a new area. Can someone point me in the right direction? I just got the first piece of the song.

I love shakra

Okay but seriously where do I get crustnut and pickled muckmaggot? I'm desperate

>>720163371
sands of karak and sinners road

>you know what deserves an animated cutscene William? Unlocking the progression meter in the menus
>sure Ari, take the next month for it

>>720163371
need double jump

>>720163276
You don't need to leave the Citadel at this point.

>>720163371
Grugsnutz here
You get the Muck where you fought Chef Jeff

>>720163483
Thanks, I guess I'll keep exploring.

>>720163252
Imagine cumming on a bunch of ants and one of them gives birth to a half human half ant. That's fucked up.

>>720163371
You'll need to use the grappling hook to go left of the pinmasters house at blasted steps and you need to use the double jump at sinners road.

Wow, the contrast between this boss and the rest of the game is crazy, it's as if there was a different team that designed this one. It's really fast, pretty hard, you have to be locked in, if you die you respawn in front of the entrance of the boss and it only deals 1 CONTACT DAMAGE. Actually fun to fight.

>>720163590
Alright thank you I'll try that. No idea where to get double jump but I have the grappling hook

>>720163276
Considering you have hook and double jump, I would get the other 2 songs, then explore bile water

>>720163185 (OP)
Does she fuck Lace?

>>720163276
Check in blasted steps, go to the very left. It's a fun time if you like platforming. You'll still have to go there later, so you *can* leave it for later. Other than that, remember that large outdoor bridge? There's a horrible area with a REALLY worthwhile quest and a nice charm.

>>720163276
There's more stuff on the right side

SOVL OVERDOSE

>>720163185 (OP)
>called hornet
>doesnt sting
>shoots web

>>720163795
AWOOOOOOO

Ahem. Is the conductor fight the hardest mandatory fight in the game? And can I go through act 2 without 100%ing, then come back and 100% it later to get to act 3?

>Shakra fight is missable
No no noooooooooo!

>>720163731
I think they designed it a long time ago. Maybe even for the "Hornet DLC" that was turned into this game. Same goes for a few other bosses like Lace and Second Sentinel.

If anyone is having trouble with the enemy gauntlet in High Halls, I recommend getting all the maps from Shakra and doing her wish first, once you do that you can ask her for help with the fight and it makes it much more bearable.

>>720163891
Where is it?

Where's the Crustnut and Pickled Muckmaggot?

>dash into room
>obstacle half a foot at the entrance

>>720163843
the needle is canonically forged in the hive from HK.

>>720163748
>>720163748
>No idea where to get double jump but I have the grappling hook
Top of Mt. McLargehuge

>>720163731
This and phantom are my favorites so far, not retardly hard, still kino

Generals don't belong on /v/, shill.

HOLY SHIT

>>720163731
>really fast, pretty hard, you have to be locked in
It is fast, yes, but not hard, one of the easiest boss in the game, it's all in the presentation, he hardly hit you.
>if you die you respawn in front of the entrance of the boss
Sure, but you don't get tools refill when you die, still have to go back to bench if you use some tools.
>it only deals 1 CONTACT DAMAGE
I think that's also why it is quite easy, you don't care at all about being hit and just mash him to death.

>>720163973
-1 culture war thread

>>720163979
WHERE

>>720163252
How big is her wyrm?

>>720163932
Crustnut is what I call Hornet after I’m done with her.

>>720164000
AIIEEEEEEE

is there any upgrades or useful items in the zones past sinner's path for the fight against the last judge?
i really don't want to go back to that whole mess but i'd take any advantage at this point

>>720163921
East of Bellhart after you've done her quest.
I started Act 3 already though so I'm fucked. I'll have to replay the whole game.

>>720163910
>Second Sentinel.
Is this an Act 3 boss? Havent fought his yet I think

>>720163973
yea, a gacha thread died for this

>>720163932
Conveniently, people already responded in this thread

>>720163843
Needle was forged in the hive and she was trained by Queen Vespa herself. She was given the name Hornet to mark her as an honorary member of the hive.

>>720164062
No
It's at the end of the Cogheart quest

>>720164062
Act 3 boss.

>>720164016
Putrid Ducts NPC quest
>>720164090
ah thx ill check

>>720164016
Blighttown

>>720164062
You can unlock it in act 2, you need the cog heart, then plop it in the corpse, then meet the sentinel thrice, then a quest will eventually show up in the first shrine and you can meet the thing above the high halls ventrica pod.

Where does Garmond go after Greymoor in act 3? That surely can't be the end

How do you guys have the patience to keep trying stuff over and over until you win?

I give up too easily, get frustrated and don't believe I can actually do it

>>720164124
>>720164062
>>720164118
Oh fuck wait I'm retarded. Yeah you can do it in Act 2.

I'm glad that anon yesterday said to fight Phantom before getting super strong from act 2 upgrades. That was the most fun boss so far by a huge margin.

so we all agree that the deep docks gauntlet is total bullshit, right? Like flintflame flyers are already awful by themselves with their massive aoe attacks triggered by their bombs hitting you, their bombs running out of time, their bombs hitting them, you hitting them with your needle right when they pull one out because they never ever stop (and of course they always deal double damage even with the fire protection trinket), but two of them in such an enclosed area?
You can't tell me that was playtested. I refuse to believe anyone played that themselves and won right after getting the grappling hook you need to go there. Maybe, MAYBE you could win it if you use flea brew and flintslate with the wanderer crest the exact millisecond the wave right before that dies, and you could burst one of them down if you don't miss a single strike before they start throwing bombs so you could only take 4 masks of damage while you deal with the remaining one, but there's no way that's the intended solution

>>720164205
i was simply born with an attention span

>Mfw already restarted 2 times after getting to act 2 because I didn't play optimally.
Anyone else like this? On my third run and probably going to restart again after clearing the citadel.

>>720164175
yeah i did that so was curious when was the fight

>Install Stakes of Marika mod
>https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/46
>Game instantly turn from a 6/10 to a 8/10

>>720164268
Huh?

>>720164205
if i lose all my rosaries or get sick of slamming my head against a wall i just play something else until i get the urge to continue

>>720164268
I'm pretty sure playing a huge chunk of the game three times for no reason is the most suboptimal choice you could make, actually.

>dynamic soundtrack version of the trailer theme as you escape the abyss
HOLY
FUCKING
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>720164268
Are you doing the 5 hour speedrun or something already? Seems hard as hell, seeing how big the game is and how hard the mainline encounters are without upgrades.

I didn't find the Last Judge runback that hard, you just run past that first conchfly and it's a piece of piss.
Last Judge herself kept fucking me with that second phase charge.
Thankfully in her third phase she goes down real easy when you panic spam straight and threefold poison pins at her.

Also how did anyone get taken out by her post death explosion? She starts chanting and shaking and sparking, how the fuck do you see that and not immediately think that is bad news?

>>720164191
You're going to get a wish in Bellhart related to him eventually.

DLC when?

>>720164191
Greymoor=>Sinner's Road=>Citadel Spa=>just below The Forum in the Citadel=>Songclave

>>720163464
Unironically how they probably have done it at this point. They're fuckin soft millionaires off EMO BUGS nigga they can do whatever they want.

>>720164205
>get frustrated
>close game
>wait 30 seconds
>"ah fuck it"
>open game again
Repeat until victory.

>>720164205
if i dont feel i can beat it reasonably i go explore and come back later

>>720164205
I really really like metroidvanias. That means I bash my head against something until I am sure I can't do it, then I go exploring to find new ways to get stronger before I return.

>>720163185 (OP)
What does "expanding your nature" or whatever Eva says mean? I go there every now and then but never get upgrades.

>>720164353
Dude I loved that shit. Also, it's gonna filter so many people who can't into platforming.

>>720164353
I want a fucking video of that section. I loved it. I was at 1 HP near the beginning of that escape and just locked the fuck in and played the best I had my entire playthrough. Made it way more hyped than it should have been.
Probably my favorite part of the game.

>>720164205
I play games like this with the mindset that the first few fights against a hard boss is like a "scouting" mission. I need to see what all the attacks are so I know how to respond and evade, and maybe know if I should equip a specific item or spell that works well. If I win on the first try that's a bonus.
I only start getting annoyed once I already know all the stuff that the boss can do and how to deal with it and I foolishly let myself die to it anyway

>>720163849
Anyone?

>there's another area above bilewater
how large is this game?

>>720164490
Having more crests and using more memory lockets.

>after you pogo there are two different flip animations that can play at random
>whether or not you can change direction midair by pressing left/right is dependent on which animation is playing
why in the fuck did they make it work like this

>>720163765
>large outdoor bridge
nta, where is this supposed to be?

>>720164586
>how large is this game?
Yes.

>>720164268
I restarted at the Lace fight. I got the game on Gog since the Playstation Store didn't have it up, and it played fine. However once I got to the first Lace encounter the game suddenly decided I had to play at 10FPS and it was going to ignore my inputs. So I rage quit, checked the PSS again, and bought it there.

Arch Linux btw if that matters.

>>720164529
Is not that bad

>>720164496
I really loved it too. I don't think the platforming was hard, it is made to be somewhat stressful, but I don't think there are actually any danger of dying or taking damage, most of it was in presentation and it was well done.

>>720164251

I beat it first try by spamming air traps and tacks.

>>720164251
Just hit the bomb back at them bro. They take so long to explode because you're supposed to hit them away with your nail. Also the bombers themselves don't get hurt by the bombs but they still get stunned for an extremely long amount of time.
The only think I dislike about their design is that I wish there was a better justification for why the bombs don't hurt them. They have a big helmet and sort of hide when they get blasted, but all the other fucks also have helmets and still get hurt. The animation should have had them fully seal themselves up inside or something

>>720163276
Sinner's Path connects to two different areas via breakable walls

youtube spoiled the final boss on the side recs... I don't even have watch history turned on..

Is Multibinder worth the huge price tag?

>>720163849
You mean the gauntlet in High Halls?

Oh look, it's another episode of The Author's Poorly Disguised Fetish

Is the third act missable?

>>720164587
ah, that makes sense, i've been hoarding the lockets because i only use the default crest lol

>>720164496
Maybe if they managed to get that far without the magma helmet. It's a piece of piss with it.

>>720164762
No, but get it anyway

Now that you've played the game, check the first trailer again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFAknD_9U7c

I am concerned, I put the heart into the robot and it ran off God knows where

>>720164778
There's A LOT of it in this game

>>720164312
Say you suck at the game without saying to suck at the game. Alternative tell everyone you are a secondary.

>>720164786
Yes

>>720164778
Tiddies

>>720164905
find it and kill it

>>720164762
no, it makes the heal animation take way too long.
You may not notice it consciously but almost all of the bosses in the game are specifically designed to have clear safe times/areas during their fights that last just long enough to heal safely. Increasing heal duration drastically reduces how often you're safe to heal.

Also, by contrast, the equipment that increases how quickly you heal is WAY better in practice than it looks like it will be on paper.

>>720163731
>if you die you respawn in front of the entrance of the boss
This is actually worse because now you have to walk back to the fucking bench to refill your tools.

>>720164905
You can find it again
>>720164974
Fool, that's a friend

>>720164586 (Me)
>this place has mosquitoes that are like primal aspids...
>oh, they can't shoot down
lmao what a downgrade

>>720164997
>Also, by contrast, the equipment that increases how quickly you heal is WAY better in practice than it looks like it will be on paper.
Well, that's because it sounds like it reduces it by like 1/4 or 1/3 at best but it makes it nearly instant.

>>720164894
>Harpoon used to cost 4 silk

how do I get back up to the cradle in act 3?
all the entrances seem to be blocked

>>720164637
Is this true?

>>720165037
Perfectly beatable without any

>>720164662
>linux
Man, this reminded me: I did my best to avoid spoilers, and also got the gog version.
It turns out their install script verbosely extracts *every single named asset in the game*.
unlucky

>>720164786
No. If you beat the final boss you can just reload the save before it.

>>720163185 (OP)
I just beat pintress on act 3 and she told me there's a hidden treasure in the mountain but i gotta find the entrance first. Has anyone found it? I've been hitting every wall like a mental patient and I haven't found anything so far.

>>720164894
WHERE IS HE?!

>>720165176
Sir NotAppearingInThisGame.

>tormented trobbio
Is this a joke, did they try to make the hardest to see what's happening boss fight ever

Anyone else find it kind of weird how many of the bugs we meet want to fuck Hornet? there's the pervert flea that spies on you if you choose to take a bath, the thief tries to get his hand on her in the citadel but gets slapped away and there's also the weirdo that likes sniffing dead bugs who tries kissing Hornet

>flea minigames

what the fuck
I can't get any of them
who the fuck thought to put an important upgrade behind this
I'm just gonna fight the bosses with level 4 nail

>>720164894
There's actually quite a lot of spoilers

>>720165124
Sure. Its also perfectly beatable with one hand while the other is fingering your moms gaping ashole, whats your point

>>720165238
hornet sexo

>>720165162
It's in one of the platforming sections inside the middle of the mountain, at the bottom room below the big hole in the middle of the map. There's a platform with shining light on it from above. Use your shinespark you got from the abyss to go up.

>>720165162
Try looking somewhere around here.

>>720164804
I didn't bother enabling it, you still have one heal on the way. Mostly I was talking about the pretty small tolerances on the jump heights for a few of the bugs. Slipped a few times, for sure.

Just fought the clockwork dancers and wow what a cool boss. Pretty easy but the part where they start going on opposite beats and then the end sequence where it's just one fighting limply are just so cool

>>720165238
You forgot the prison guards that strip her naked and plan on having a little fun with her.

Found a cylinder before I found this dude. Am I supposed to get a quest from him in my wishlog? Both he and Hornet acted like they had seen each other before.

>>720165121
yeah test it out. when you pogo hornet either does a spinny front flip or a twirly thing. say you're facing right, you pogo off of something, tap left and then hold down to pogo again. if you get the flip you'll dive to the left and if you get the twirl you will dive to the right

was not expecting this game to have commentary on labor exploitation

>Groal
It wasn't that bad, second attempts. The run back is a bit long, but it's not that bad with those huge flying enemies on the way. And those who say that there are no reward, it's mandatory to get act 3.

>>720165302
>Use your shinespark you got from the abyss to go up.
m-my what
i haven't got down there yet maybe i should
>>720165307
thank you

>hornet has slapped 3 npcs already
fucking kek love this recurring theme

>>720164894
>they removed the ichi ni san harpoon combo voice lines

>>720165487
It's your ability you throw the pin up then shoot upwards. Forgot what it's called in this game but it's from Metroid.

Where the fuck is the map of the slab?

>>720165516
someone told them they're actual japanese words and they got autistic about their worldbuilding

>too scared to face the beastfly again
>finally get around to it
>one shot it
I AM GROWING STRONGER

What controller has the best d-pad? I'm using a dualsense so I'm stuck using the analog sticks, the arrows are pretty bad as primary controls

wow you really cant get hit once during the courier rasher quest. doesnt help that i keep opening the map too to look at where im going

Do you need double jump to get to Shakra in bilewater?

okay, first time in the game that I'm stuck and don't know where to go
If I go all the way to the left where that bench is, I see the rings to climb but I don't have that ability yet
The upward path to the right is a closed door

am I supposed to go further into cogwork core?

>>720165252
This one shot in the trailer is what had me prepared to fight that thing again.

Zanzibartbros...?

Now, I just fought Groal for the first time. Tell me I don't have to go through that gauntlet first every time. I already know about the closer bench, at least.

>>720165713
Yes.

>>720165713
oui

>>720164205
at some point i become inured. I'm not really very good at these types of games, it's just raw stubborn belligerence, but I do still enjoy the feeling of becoming incrementally better at a boss until it's dead.

holy fucking KINOOOOOO
this fucking boss was so good. unironically felt like a dance.

>>720165626
Its 1 2 3 in japanese and yes i agree removing then is the correct choice

>>720164894
WAIT I NEVER SAW THIS NIGGER
STEEL MODE ONLY?

>>720164894
Feels like the game was already mostly done 6 years ago...

>>720165660
Not the best, but the newer xbone dpad is decent. Been using it cause it makes pogoing with the wanderer crest easier than when using sticks.

>>720164894
Was Coral Tower supposed to be a proper area? We were robbed.

>>720164894
the only trailer I watched, had forgotten most about it
seems like they had already created and implemented a lot of things back then

Pantsu mod when?

>first tried First Sinner
>it's everyone's favorite fight
Let me guess, just because it's fucking easy?

>>720165732
>Tell me I don't have to go through that gauntlet first every time.
Anon...
>closer bench
lol, lmao even

So do bugs have sex like humans do?

Anyone know what happened to my spool? I had multiple fragments but now it's broken at the end and not holding as much. Did something happen to it?

>>720165720
get the white key and use it at the bottom of the choral chambers

>>720165660
Razer Wolverine Ultimate. Rebind the back buttons for your up tool and down tool and you are set.

>>720165784
Yeah I wonder just how much was added in these six years. I noticed some sprites were different and the placement of a lot of NPCs in the trailer didn't match the game

>>720164894
Wait, it was that ready six years ago?
What the FUCK were they doing? Cooming to Hornet pussy?

Hard bosses are one thing but goddamn these late game precision platforming segments are exhausting

>>720165720
you got a key to the whiteward earlier right? maybe time to check that out :) (its the area completely right from choral chambers elevator travel)

>>720165839
Pattern bosses are fun. I want pew pew laser line jump here and then dash and hit shit.

>>720165772
this, phantom, lace 2 and trobio were peak. basically fights with no bullshit adds

>>720165720
>f I go all the way to the left where that bench is, I see the rings to climb but I don't have that ability yet
Find the ability

How were you actually supposed to get up there (putrified ducts?
I managed to cheese my way up by pulling the mosquito there, but it was a massive pain to get it to fly at the right spot. The reward was cool but... felt way too late.

you want 500 doallras to sharpen my needle after i did a fucking marathon for it fucking ugly ass grasshopper

>>720165864
oh okay
Yeah I forgot to mention I unlocked the vendor up at the top right too and bought both the keys she sells

>the double jump makes it so you need to press Jump thrice to get the glide
Did they even play test this? This feels awkward as fuck

>>720165903
They're easy, especially with the existence of the needle upgrade that pulls you forward.

>>720165782
That's just a metroid

>elden ring comes out
>highly anticipated game
>difficult
>normies goes apeshit over it
>silksong comes out
>highly anticipated game
>difficult
>normies are utterly bootyblasted about it
Explain this phenomenon to me.

>>720165852
Get your soul back

>>720165839
It's same with the cog dancer, easy fight with a good presentation.

>>720165937
A quest to find the shopkeeper in the First Shrine led me to there from Memoriam

>>720165956
Down + A to glide without triggering double jump.

Path of pain this path of pain that
i think i found it?

>>720163731
Look at its movements. It's just grimm with needles

>>720165943
Just spam the bellway bench to the 2 guys. 29 rosaries each run, around 10s per. Spend a few minutes there. Mindless repetition.

>>720165993
ego damage

>>720165784
My theory is, it basically was. At least, the mandatory parts of the first two acts were. Then they spent years and years procrastinating and bloating the scope culminating in making Infected Crossroads again but for the WHOLE FUCKING GAME for the third act.

>>720165851
Some of them reproduce by traumatic insertion. Basically the male stabs his penis randomly into the female's thorax over and over again injuring her. The semen fertilizes the eggs inside and they larva eat their way out of their mother.

Seems more sensible then the system humans have if I am going to be quite honest with your thoughbeit.

>>720165993
Elden Ring doesn't bog itself down with the most tedious garbage known to man

>>720166026
Oh... I'm an idiot then, thanks anon.

>>720165973
You mean the grapple? It requires silk which makes it a pain because if you die you don't have any

>30 minutes to beat boss
>23 of those minutes was spent running back
Defend this

>>720165104
do a super jump in this exact spot, the area is immediately to the right of where the big elevator to the top used to be

>>720165993
Elden Ring is babyshit compared to this, that's why

>>720166047
i'm grinding the big fags underneath the halls, they give about 30 each

>>720166117
No, you'll always recharge to 1 silk in order to be able to use it during those segments.

>>720165993
Elden Ring's difficulty is completely different to this game. In ER you can grind, use spirit summons, spam heavy jump attacks, spells, Moonveil, etc. and in Silksong you are forced to get good.

>>720165993
ER has lots of ways you can cheese the game with certain items/builds
you can't really do much in the way of "cheesing" here

>>720165993
Elden Ring actually has a SHITTON of crutches

>>720165993
Like everyone said, Silksong is harder.

>>720165993
2D game. normalniggers will not accept anything that doesn't have a realistic art style

>>720165993
You can summon a nerd to kill the boss for you in Elden Ring.

>>720166145
NTA but fuck the map did not match that spot at all, only the visuals do.

>>720166138
Extra motivation to get it done.

>>720165993
elden ring you can get more powerful and smash face against the boss
silksong is normies realizing they dont want to play kaizo mario

>>720166138
It took me an hour and a half then I died to the explosion and spent 30 more minutes

>>720166047
>>720166163
>30
Oh no, anons dont have the charm... You should be getting 50+

>>720166138
I mean I hate that runback but it's at most a minute. The only thing that makes me rage is that fucking piece of shit rocket nose bloody bitch bastard on the first jump.

>>720165993
Even without cheesing ER, the difficulty is like a 5.5 and this is about a 7.5, feels like playing a normal modern game on the NG+ difficulty from the start

>>720166256
Lmao I actually ate the explosion on the screenshot, didnt kill me. You telling me if the explosion kills you the boss respawns?

>>720166260
I didn't want to presume, but yes, use it if you have it.

>>720165993
In ER you can just lean on a summon, Skilsong actually expects (you) the player to learn to play

>>720166138
Get better at platforming, the runback is less than a minute
There's a quest later to run from bellheart to the middle of the cathedral in less than 5 minutes

>>720165993
In ER people say its difficult then immediately go and grind every thing that makes it piss easy.
Lmao Malenia? Let me just cheese her.
You can technically do that too but you can only grind so much

has anyone completed the hunter's journal? I'm missing one in cogworks and three miscellaneous ones at the bottom where the major/unique stuff is. are there any missable fights?

If Hornet is immortal why is she so weak? She should be roided.

>Bone Bottom
>Bellhart
>First Shrine
>Architect
>Grindel
Bought these guys out but I feel like I'm missing a vendor somewhere

>>720165238
it is because they designed hornet to be extremely sexy

I started walking back somewhere for the 20th time and I finally said it's time to hit the uninstall button. Absolutely terrible game.

>>720166298
Yes. I had 3 masks and still died, I was so pissed

Bone Bottom? Damn right I do.

>>720166345
She's strong she's just not voided out like her bro.

>mfw finding yet another spool fragment instead of a fucking mask fragment
They managed to make upgrades disappointing. Masks are already underwhelming with how everything deals so much damage that only two masks really matter, but why are there 4x as many spool upgrades?

>if you run for long enough on the conveyor belt a single rosary will shoot out from the pipe above
this game is chock full of soulful details, hahahah

>>720166138
Don't worry you will have even worse runback later on. Install mod to respawn before boss room entrance. Made the game way better for me.

>maggots now fall off when you have zero silk
>remove the single drill fly in the last judge runback

There, I fixed your game.

>>720166321
I hear this all the time, you guys are such fucking cocksuckers
>bro like its only a minute
How about making it 0 minutes? Out a fucking bench near the boss. Nobody enjoys doing the same platforming section over and over to do a 20 second try at a boss

ok, which one of you created this?

>>720166341
Nothing is missable, if you post a screenshot we should be able to help you out

>>720165993
the average gamer does not know what to do without a quest compass and straight line levels. the average gamer does not understand the concept of reacting to what a boss is do ing

>>720166389
because you need 18 halves for an extra heal

>>720166345
At the start of the game she's severely weakened by mystic runes and spends the whole game recovering

>>720165238
I'm not sure if it's meant to be some lore thing about Weavers or just haha funny horny bugs.

>>720166423
you are shit

>>720166169
I know. It sucks because it recharges slowly so you need to wait a second when you don't have silk. It's just tiring. I wish there was an upgrade to speed up silk regen

>>720165993
Elden Ring is hard, but has mechanics that you can use to make it pretty easy, sometimes to the point that it's outright trivial.
Silksong is hard and is still hard even if you use everything available to you to make it easier.

>This thing filtered /v/
You people are terrible at this game, took me like 6 or 7 tries, and I could have won sooner had I realized that the small ones had more than 2 patterns.

>>720165993
In elden ring there were already guides about how killing that one dragon gave you levels and it was very easy to do. Plus mimics. In silksong theres no such thing.

i really do want an HK game where nothing bad happens
you're a bug merchant/adventurer exploring the world, going from town to town, fighting both angry beasts and other violent bugs and finding and picking up shit to sell to vendors while also buying stuff that'd help you survive in the world, or even earn some cash in arenas and stuff

>>720166145
got it, thanks. that is not what the map says, and I 100% did not catch the visual cue. would have never seen that
thanks much

>>720166515
the tools trivialize almost anything when you get the good ones.

>>720166512
Use the silk regen charm in those particular spots if you need it

>Injector Band
This shit feels broken with 3 mask heals. I don't remember the speed healing charm from HK speeding up healing this much. It's like twice as fast.

>>720166443
if you want it to be 0 minutes then simply dont die. this would also save you the frustration you get from having to run back, so if you play better you will enjoy the game more.

>>720166512
>I wish there was an upgrade to speed up silk regen
There is, and you can upgrade how much regenerates, too.

>>720166442
>>remove the single drill fly in the last judge runback
there's two and you can run past both of them before they have a chance to do anything to you
get better at platforming jesus christ

>>720166348
The forge lady, the red ant, the guy at the scam inn. Maybe others I missed?

>>720166582
They do? I even forget I have them.

>>720166532
The issue is doing the same dull platforming section. It amplifies the rage on something that would otherwise be whatever.

>>720166532
>6 or 7 tries
You are bad at the game.

Team cherry i know you fuckng read this board, go make chapter two of that one comic now this instant

>>720166567
HK's world is absolute suffering, which kinda fits a bug world. think of all the bugs you squish every week

>>720166651
Oh right forgot about those, those are all done as well

>>720166389
Really feels like they were afraid of the player becoming too strong too early. So every upgrade is like find X pieces to get 1 fucking notch (4 of which are needed for a cast and enemies 2 health masks are needed to take a hit) or it's simply a good item but found at the very end.

>>720166610
This is why you souls clowns are a joke
Imagine defending having your time wasted

>>720166443
How about you just stop being a shitter.

>>720166040
it wasn't
so did i just climb all the way to nameless town for nothing?

>>720166642
>get better at platforming
>can't even find the path where you only encounter one fly

>>720166532
What, are you implying 6 tries is meant to be impressive, I'd say that's being filtered, I 2 shot it and even that was bad

>>720166598
>I don't remember the speed healing charm from HK speeding up healing this much.
cause there are 15 unchangeable startup frames in the og hk before healing starts
quick focus shortens the frames between masks restored

>hear about beastly rematch being cancer
>nah, I'll wait till I get stronger
>find bug tool that flies into enemies and double jump
>add poison to the tool
>completed on first try

Thank fuck, I needed an easy win with this game putting me through the ringer.

>>720166591
Okay where's the silk regen charm then?

>>720165993
Normies want to participate in the cool new thing, honestly I sympathize with them a bit, but holy shit are they annoying, have any of them ever played a 2D game? I was honed by years of trash kaizo Mario levels, this is laughably easy to me.

>1 craft metal left
But for what? I bought the fly and both vendors out

>>720166732
Not my problem. My times not wasted cause i managed to beat the boss and I found it more enjoyable due to the tension that a potential consequence provides.

>>720166443
Dying should be punishing, you should be rewarded for playing well by not having your time wasted

>>720166741
feels amazing blasting through it (or any level) even faster than that with all the movement upgrades

also yeah do people stop and fight every monster they see? I just dont get it. after the 3rd runback I was already doing what you are doing in the webm

>>720166791
>I was honed by years of trash kaizo Mario levels
This isn't simply "not normie", this is extreme autism.

Why did the Cogwork Core music go so hard and why couldn't they have done that for half of the other areas in the game

>>720166743
its part of the end of the mushroom man quest

>>720166748
and you can't even run past that one lmao

>>720166732
You're playing a video game, you're already wasting your time. Just stick with a yellow paint simulator if you just want the feeling of accomplishment for doing nothing.

>>720166741
>Didn't go left on the second platform
Quicker and no enemy on this path.

>>720166773
i know why this game is hard: tools are fucking broken, they're literally "skip this fight"

>>720156035
lmao I got assmad at this exact area just a few hours ago. It's such fucking bullshit and the worst part is that it isn't even hard.

There's something really funky about the diagonal pogo, these saws were the first time I had definitive proof. It's possible to pogo (i.e you hear the "plink" sound) but still get hit by the thing you're pogoing off of. That doesn't seem like it should be a thing. If you pogo successfully you should either be teleported to a set point above the obstacle or you should have iframes against the obstacle. That's how every game does it. I don't think I've ever played a video game with a mechanic like this where you could e.g. Mario stomp on something with a hitbox AND get hit by it.

>>720163185 (OP)
He's literally me.

>>720166741
You can reduce the runback time even further at 10 seconds if you take a left instead of a right to avoid needing to run around enemies.

>>720166624
Where is it though?

>>720166443
How about you get good and stop whining bitch

>>720165993
>everything before mimic tear is easily cheesed by just grinding a bunch of stats
>everything after mimic tear is easily cheesed just by using mimic tear
there is only one mimic tear-level cheese in silksong and you can't get it until you have double jump so it's far, far past the point normalfags get filtered.

>>720166884
thats why i did it but i guess you have to do the locations in the order of the riddles

>>720165240
i spent more time on the dodging minigame than on 90% of the bosses lol

>>720166803
Ruined tool upgrade?

if I fight the thing at the top of the citadel does the game end? I have a bunch more zones I haven't even been to yet but it feels like a final boss type of thing

How?

>>720166785
Whiteward

>>720165851
Its normal human sex but she vores you afterwards. Would you still do it?

>>720166773
Every complaint about difficulty ultimately comes down to coming across an enemy that theyre not ready for but refusing to explore and come back later.

>>720165784
It was, they just needed 6 years to play the game from start to finish due to the amount of bullshit they added into the game.

>>720166707
i don't mean "nothing bad" in the vein of hk's world being kinda shitty in general
i mean that there's no really big thing to fight at the end, no real source of everybody's suffering that you need to beat to save everyone
instead the biggest thing you really do is just go about doing favors and other little things for bugs just to make the world a little more worth suffering for

I cannot find the fucking map to Whispering Vaults

>>720166936
Done that too, maybe I missed something at Forge Daughter

>>720166927
what is it? I don't know if I got something like that. I already beat the game, don't care about 100%.

>>720163185 (OP)
Is fighting the wicker man in wisp thicket worth it? The boss just kind of seems like it’s not fun and i don’t want to bother if the reward isn’t worth it

>>720166664
That part I understand but there is a "shortcut" it takes you all the way to the blasted sands station, you don't have to do any platforming, just a bunch of jumps, there are two giant red stalagmites you can break to create this shortcut

>>720166443
How about you realize you're a slave to instant gratification and don't realize how soulless you and society as a whole is becoming by worshipping it?

>>720166948
That's the heal speed increase charm, you get the silk regen charm earlier
I think you buy it from the bell town

>>720167005
I mean, just look at which tool you are missing.

>>720166947
super jump on the bottom of the elevator shaft to the right of the grand gate

>>720166936
Plus the explosive tool takes one. Four afaik? Or was it five, total...

>>720166947
the big elevator shaft in the citadel right before the underworks bench

>>720166741
You took the wrong path you idiot

>>720166947
i dunno but are those markers from the game or you're using an interactive map?

>>720167028
I'm aware of the shortcut. Scaling that every time is insufferable.

>>720166945
the game will not end. after the credits you simply respawn at the bench before the final boss. feel free to go fight her whenever you feel ready.

>>720166987
It's like up one of those drop-down hatches you have to wall jump up on one of the upper floors, or I think you can just go down the hole next to the merchant at the First Shrine

>>720167024
I'm gonna be deadass with ya, I have never used the wispfire lantern once.

>>720166945
No, you reload your save before the boss and keep playing.

>>720165772
Her fight was made to spam the hook.

>"use tools" is the new "you didn't beat the game"
it starts again...

if you didn't play this game blindfolded with reversed controls, you didn't beat it

>>720166532
I two shot it, very easy fight
People had issues with it?

>>720166785
It's in the moss grotto weavenest past the needolin door. They put a bench down there next to a pond for some reason.

Where's the big lanky bug in the underworks? Can't find him for the life of me

Act 3
so the fucking flower godhome ending is canon? how does it make sense, how does horny know

>>720166743
>nameless town
huh? where?

Okay I just found phantom do I really need to do the lost woods area every fucking try?

Where the gifters at?

>>720163731
THis is just amped up Widow, pretty much same moveset

>>720167139
Because her step mom told her.

>>720167163
Absolutely not. There are some annoying runbacks in this game, but nothing even close to that egregious.

>>720167098
you are such a whiny pussy lmao

it's never been more over

>>720167043
Right, the Weavelight. It's in the Weavenest Alta after fighting the Moss Mothers

>>720167163
No there's a bench in there, covered in silk I think

>>720167163
if you don't beat her, then yes, but there is a bench there

>>720164894
Man I expected the "towns" to be so much bigger when I first watched this.

>>720165993
elden ring had an optional easy mode via summons and whatnot

Anons, getting the bad ending doesnt lock me from getting the good one later on right ?
Cause I really dont want to replay the whole thing.

>>720167221
How are you missing a whole ass map?

>>720167163
There’s a bench in the exhaust organ.

>>720167020
it's the double tool charm you can get in bilewater. being able to use two tools with every button press effectively doubles your tool dps, and if you combine that with architect crest having 3 tool slots and being able to recraft your tools if necessary, you barely need to engage with bosses at all. you can kill them in like 15 seconds just unloading your entire stock of tools into them. it's utterly ridiculous and i fully expect a nerf.

how the hell are you supposed to dodge the last judge's phase 2 charge?
the fat bitch is bigger than my jump height

>>720167219
hollowtards will defend literally anything about their mediocre shit heap of a game

whats the lore

>>720167286
Press F for anon, he didn't make a copy of his save right before fighting granny silk.

>>720167221
So you can get 5 extra lives.

>>720167215
I figured they weren't that retarded and I just missed a bench somewhere thanks

>>720167037
Hey bro
Hey BRO
here's an idea. Next time you play a game and you die punch yourself full force in the nuts.
Imagine how much more gratification you will feel when you beat the boss. Imagine the tension as you see your hp going down. No instant gratification here, death comes with a cost. Try that to spice it up faggot
My god you souls fuckers are retarded

>>720167303
No she isn't.

>>720166985
I dont think Ive ever seen a metroidvania which is not mainly driven by plot

It could work but exploration feels better when there's plot or worldbuilding behind it. You see a statue, "oh this is X or means Y"

like, the best you could make is you being a treasure hunter and trying to find the ultimate treasure or something but even then it would be kinda plot driven as you look for hints to find the treasure

>>720165993
No i-frame spam.

>>720167163
There is a bench close to the boss after the mist, you don't have to run through the mist every time.

>>720167024
its plenty fun just deal with the upper parts first so you dont have to acrobat so much

Is there supposed to be something in this room in Mount Fay? I dueled the Pinstress and she mentioned that there was something inside the mountain, and I assumed it might be a proper Weavenest since so much of the mountain is weaver architecture. But there's just a bench here.

I did find a crazy crystal cave in the center of the mountain, but it just had a mask shard and another non-interactible mineral deposit like the flintslate in Deep Docks in it. Still cool. I'm preparing myself for the inevitable "find me a bunch of rocks" quest.

>>720167373
Maybe you should just stop jerking off so much

>>720167303
You have to hold jump to get the full height out of it, tapping it only performs a small jump

ez

>>720167338
Im still on act 2 so no big commitment was made yet.

>>720167124
Not a no toolkek, but I barely used silkskills. they were kinda garbage, besides maybe the parry, which is fucking worthless vs the true final boss btw

>>720167286
it does, start over now

>>720167286
nope. the game wants you to get the bad ending, go "that's it?" and then go for the true ending to see what the real deal is.

>>720167361
>5
I am hard stuck at 2 and I have done quite a bit of exploring.

>>720166876
It's such a shame. Best song in the game but I feel the zone goes by incredibly fast.

>>720167298
jesus christ, where is this?

>>720167432
I'm waiting for the Reddit dadgamers to get this part.

Hur dur the game is too difficult

>>720165993
normies googled "HOW TO BREAK ELDEN RING MOST OP WEAPONS" before playing the game + used summons + used mimic tear
You can't do that here.

>>720167410
It's one of the upgrades for the Ruined Tool.

>>720167432
>used tacks
You didn't beat the game.

>>720167330
lore of what
its actually not that hard to find out what is happening or happened in pharloom
for the deeper lore of why the fuck is void there and snail shamans were hiding in plain sight, and how is lifeblood therei will need a 6hours video essay most likely made by mossbag to understand this shit

>>720167410
>Duel
What? there are duels in this game? Where??

>>720167221
So are half of the mask shards in act 3 or something? I'm probably halfway through act 2 and I don't even have half.

>>720167298
oh yeah that definitely sounds like it would do it.they're op without any of that.

>>720166408
where is this faggot please tell me

>>720167432
took me the most in the entire game, I was scared and panicked from the two dudes at the end but after a while realized they take turns attacking you. some combinations felt unfair though

You know what this game needs?
Even more enemies that zoom around and that you can only hit once every 5 seconds.

The longclaw upgrade is truly too late in the game.
Because if people got it then they would just play wanderer and nobody would ever say that game is hard

>>720167471
here

>>720167380
i could get behind that
but i think the biggest source of progression in a game like the one i'd described is earning enough money from doing shit to actually buy the progression items like wall jump or double jump
there'd absolutely be worldbuilding in the form of civilization history and relations, libraries, trade centers and whatnot, but the main drive of the game would be just to see more of the world, what other civilizations and treasures are out there to find
kinda like a wrpg or something

>>720167568
I don't think there is a single mask shard in act 3, had 6 masks by the end of act 1 and 9 by the end of act 2.

>>720167432
tacks GOD

>>720167519
Well, I don't know what that is, so I'll just keep it in mind.

>>720166453
here's what i've currently got, feels like i've turned the map upside down looking for these 4 but i have everything else in the game

>>720167579
underworks in a hidden room above one of the benches

>>720167432
I don't know why people had trouble with this, they are woefully unprepared at dealing with attacks from above

>>720167471
there's a breakable ceiling in the room to the left of the long room where the big maggots jump out of the water at you.

>>720167456
So how many endings are there ?

>>720167535
That's really easy though.

The void is literally everywhere if you go deep enough. The core of the planet.
Snail shamans were hiding cause they are clearly heretics under the bell religion
Lifeblood is there cause that dude planted lifeblood seeds.

They literally say most of this.

>>720167653
im not in game as im going to sleep but right one should be the bug that comes out when u light the vaultsno?

>>720167221
Post map if you feel like getting help.

>>720167726
5

>Finally get the Whispering Vaults map after an hour of walking in circles
>See that I haven't filled out a corner in the top right
>Go there
>Fall down a hole
>End up in India and now I have a baby crying in my inventory
>Find my way to a stag station and rest after nearly dying
>Decide to check out the left since I don't know where I'm going
>Break a wall and end up in fucking Silent Hill

Holy shit this game is something else

>>720167726
Two in act 2, two in Act 3, and at least one in Act 4.

>>720167668
Because it takes too long for people to realize how good hook spams are for dealing with the flying mobs.

>>720164268
I used to do this, I would recommend making a list of the stuff you wanna do. I only seem to have missed Gilly and I can acknowledge some things being completely unnecessary it seems; first Savage Niggerfly for example if you don't need Beast Crest (although I don't know if crest acquisition is related to vesti or Hunter upgrades).

My personal thing is damage and movement. I pogo'd the cogworks to get pale oil numero uno and then mainlined towards hookline and double jump so now I feel like I can actually play the game. Your mileage may vary but if the time sink is getting you, make a list.

I just found Sherma in the bath. She's so cute and I love her. But I can tell something bad is going to happen to her so I'm preemptively mad at those australian faggots.

What the FUCK is this fight?
>extreme runback
>no healing
>EXTREMELY tedious combat mechanic

>>720167630
buying upgrades like that would feel kinda lame

finding the double jump in metroidvanias is like the biggest orgasm you can receive everytime and they're usually extremely well hidden, which makes them feel even better once you obtain them

btw if you never played it, try La Mulana. warning though, Silksong is babymode compared to that

>>720167785
i'm pretty sure its the abyss if it has one

This was an unironic Zanzibart moment. This whole quest is so lackluster relative to the other two, although I like the concept of the boss fight behind this.

Act 3 spoilers.

How many nail upgrades am I meant to have when fighting the clockwork dancers? its a very fun fight but I feel like I'm doing jackshit damage to them, I hit them so many times and nothing happens

without completely giving away the location, which zone is the item that curses you in?

>>720167821
He's a he

>>720166985
Definitely feels like the game is missing the feeling of stumbling across some ancient forbidden area like the soul pit or whatever in the first game. Or even deepnest. Everything in silk song is too civilized and populated. Like going from Made in Abyss season 1 to season 2.

>>720166840
>do people stop and fight every monster they see?
I do with the ones that give rosaries
that way once I kill the boss I got some nice pocket money to spend

>>720167891
1
You can get 2 more when you access the Citadel, but I don't believe you can access the first, easier one before them

>>720164637
Not for wanderer's crest, the correct choice

Do I ever get the Snare Setter back

>>720167864
it was a pretty cool fight, I liked it. also the bodies scattered around to hype him up are cool

>>720167787
Yeah, about that crying baby... You haven't seen everything yet...

>>720167854
I mean, the only way to find out is to be told, look it up, or run around the map with your dick in your hand.

how do i get up here?

Was I meant to first try The Unravelled? I know some people were apparently bitching about him

>>720164773
if you finish shakra's quest she stands outside the place and asks you if you want her to fight with you. the enemy gauntlet was pretty easy for me cause of this (i only got there after finishing her quest)

>>720167848
The runbacks in La Mulana are fucking legendary.

>>720167864
He's the make a wish kid's boss.

>>720167904
bilewater, because of course it's fucking bilewater.
though you won't immediately be cursed upon picking it up, that part comes later.

>>720167891
2 or 1
use charge attacks(unless youre reaper) or tools

>>720167891
Just one, you can get a second one shortly after killing them.

>>720167945
thats perfectly fine, I did it too, but if thats the case I doubt you complain about the runbacks

>>720167812
So without spoilering the content, how does the progression from act 2 to 3 and 3 to 4 work ?
Does it only move to the next one when you get the real ending in the previous act ? Do I get to try the "bad" endings in 2 and 3 without progressing forward ?

>>720165993
normies don't like anything and only interact with stuff for the fashion

>>720167980
i just killed him on my second try, he didnt seem that hard at all

>>720168034
Act 5 locks you in and prevents you from getting items, which sucks since it bricks your save. 2 to 3 and 3 to 4 work the same and let you go back at will.

>>720167980
nonlinear game = people come across boss theyre not ready for but assume they need to beat it now = complaint

really crazy how people still dont understand this shit

>>720167764
1. Garpid, think those are the bugs coming from the wall on top of the cradle on the way to the surface or maybe the one in blasted steps
2. Imoba, the bug that you use to platform on top of the cradle on the way to the surface
3. Skrill, I think those are the one in the room located above the blasted steps bench
4. Cogwork Clapper, I believe there two of those as a sort of miniboss in the citadel, can't remember where

>>720167961
I still only have one nail upgrade and I barely beat Trobbio. I'm going to get my ass kicked getting rid of this turd burglar.

>>720167848
>finding the double jump in metroidvanias is like the biggest orgasm you can receive everytime and they're usually extremely well hidden, which makes them feel even better once you obtain them
progression items as treasures around which temples were built is a very good suggestion
one that's no doubt been done to death but still worth doing

Do I need to do the gay-ass deliveries to get to act 3?

>>720168104
Meant for >>720167653

>>720167864
Oh that's who Seth Goldman is.

>>720167926
>Everything in silk song is too civilized and populated.
does the game have a lot of records as to when and how each civilization was formed
or do they just seem to have sprung up without any real reason

>>720168140
only the queens egg iirc

>>720167986
That explains it then

>>720168108
Yeah, about that second nail upgrade... Don't give up. Sorry it's funny just remembering all these things.

>>720167968
I think you need the final movement upgrade

>>720167986
>>720168163
Good for him, he was one of the better bossfights in the game.
Also, if you go back to where the map chick was in Greymoor after his fight, you'll find him chilling there having no recollection of your fight or past life and is just excited to be exploring after being 'born'.

>>720167926
Act 1 wasn't given anywhere near the same amount if love and polish as the rest of the game. It's really obvious that they just tacked it on, and one of the victims of that is that there's barely any exploration for the first 20 hours of the game. The instant you get to Act 2 the game opens up dramatically, you start encountering tons of weird forbidden areas, getting lost, and the areas themselves are all cooler and more creative.

Genuinely I have no idea what they were thinking with the first act. It's completely meaningless filler.

>>720168034
Do the bad end in act 2. Credits run. Load save and do the good end in act 2. Credits run. Restart save with spoopy save file. Enter act 3 and get bad end for act 3. Load save and do good end for act 3. Load save and run around doing a whole bunch of shit all over the map the just unlocked and completely fucking sucks and makes you want to end your life then do good end act 3 again. Restart save with your blessed save file. Enter act 4.
I don't know what comes after that. I got filtered by the requirements for act 4 and have been seething, drinking, and answering questions all day to avoid having to deal with that shitshow.

Haha imagine if you fell back in

>>720167075
there's also the mechanical flies in the citadel

>>720167948
>>720168002
>>720168010
Managed to do it shortly after posting, I thought there would be a fourth phase with the other one, fuck, scared me to shit, I think I'm meant to feel sad for killing one of them but fuck literally every boss in this game they all deserve to fucking die for being so hard

>>720167915
What the fuck. I guess I'm the faggot then.

act 3, not really spoilers, but does anyone know what to do with this thing? Is this for a quest later?

>>720168258
what the fuck do you mean act 4

>>720168034
anon is fucking with you, there is no act 4 or 5 or whatever, just act 3.
if you start act 3, you will be locked out of the act 2 bad ending because you will no longer be able to fight the act 2 final boss. if you care to see it, do it before going to act 3.

>>720168034
Anon those other guys are lying to you there's on 3 acts.
Fucking hate LARPers. Just tell him to stfu and stop asking or spoil him.

I'm tearing up. What a great story.

>>720168190
Didn't do that one before act 3- not necessary.

>>720168337
nevermind, I just played the needolin and he woke up He's gonna kick my ass

Am I meant to have the citadel map before the clockwork dancers? I just cannot find the map bitch in this place

>>720168174
I havent really digested the words but theres a few NPC that you collect lore items for. And NPCs are a lot more chatting about whats going on so you might get something there as well. Also environmental clues if thats your thing

>>720168337
It's a boss, play the song.

>>720165782
Yeah, in steel soul there are three niggas hunting you down like they are Mr.X.
And you cannot kill them.

Grandma Silk was really WEAK, wtf did they think of? Or is she meant to only be a challenge for the 5h speedrun achievement? Didn't even use any tools and I beat her back to back for normal ending and act 3

why Y button used for playing the banjo and not using tools. does banjo get more abilities later?

>finished the final boss
>ends without act 3 popping up
Fuck

>>720163185 (OP)
it's female????

>>720168510
Have fun exploring Pharloom!

>>720168232
>there's barely any exploration for the first 20 hours of the game. The instant you get to Act 2 the game opens up dramatically
26 hours in and I'm still in act 1 with no major roadblocks during my playthrough and still have a few things I want to explore more
I think I'll never be able to finish this game

>>720168363
>>720168497
gay

>>720168492
a few, but they're niche, excepting one.

What the fuck is the high score?

i did it i beat silk with the parasite, wtf is that ending

also who is seth goldman

>>720168497
I'm glad Team Cherry adds a homosexual pair in both their games

>>720167215
>>720167241
yeah imagine running through that every single time...... couldn't have been me h-haha...

how do you kill muckmaggots, i need it for the bestiary

>>720164205
me... have brain... me... think when playing games.

why were you scrubs doomposting about courier quests? they're not that bad. courier rasher took me 15 mins to get the route down and I even delivered it to the guy with 2 full life bars left

>>720168492
it does, yeah. but seriously, rebind tool to Y instead and put needolin on RB.

>>720168323
It's not your fault, the voices don't correspond to the characters' genders at all.

>>720168108
Do you want to know how to get rid of the baby? the crying annoyed me

What the fuck do i need to do to upgrade the boomerang? I'm in the room and I don't get it.

>>720168637
isn't there a room where they jump out of the water at you? unless those are different muckmaggots.

>>720168273
It'd respawn you at the end, the save icon flashed at the bottom right

>>720164268
always fun trying to find the optimal routes to kill bosses easily.
i get it.

games shit I flushed it

How do you save pilgrim bro in bone bottom? I heard you could but he still got collateral damaged.

So, it's just a Metroid rip off?

What's a good Act 3 farm spot for rosaries? Grindle is bleeding me dry

How the fuck do I get to this flea?

How do I get to the black heart in far fields?

>cogflyfriend just got grabbed and eaten by a barnacle
nyo...

>>720164059
everything past sinner's road is considerably harder than blasted steps and the last judge. if you're getting hard filtered by the last judge, just know there's another way to get to the citadel. from sinner's road, go top left into the mist, then after the mist you'll fight a kino boss that can get you to the citadel

i'm so sad silk shot is missable

why would they try so hard to make everything obtainable then fuck you over a weapon

>>720168460
She's a fake final boss. True final boss is actually hard.

>>720168806
Is the first shrine one not enough? 110 per run with the tool

>>720168492
dont forget to play music in front of every single npc at various points throughout the game for lore

>>720168840
Top left of the right room.

>>720168880
They're all dead in Act 3 save 2

>>720168840
It's from the right of you I believe, like the other side of that bit where it dips

I’m deep into act 2, what do I do about the monster behind the gate near the far fields resting area? Map says there’s a flea there. Do I have to buy the needolin amplifier?

>>720167987
I feel like I searched everywhere.
I did come across a hidden area but I can't figure out how to reach it

>>720168916
thanks

>>720168846
Talk to the shamans for hints.

are courier quests infinite? I keep getting bone bottom quests

>>720168591
25. None of the challenges are that hard.

>>720168840
How do you get the flea map?

>>720168357
>if you care to see it, do it before going to act 3
So it doesnt work like in HK where you could only unlock stuff for the real ending after doing the bad one at least once ?

>>720168840
google "silksong full map" retard

>>720168960
25 my ass, i've gotten past 30!

>>720168363
>>720168497
I know the entire point of this and the first hollow knight are that they take place in broken down desolate kingdoms, but man I'd love to see the games with settings that have more places actively in their prime. Verdania, Coral Tower and White Palace in the og were so gorgeous and seeing them rundown made me sad.

>>720168934
Well, no, technically half of them are dead, but when the live ones are that far away and have a chance of randomly voiding out, it makes it not really worth it

>>720168979
That's not how it worked in HK lol, who told you that

>Act 3
I understand why they took so long to finish the game.

>>720168962
there's a warrior flea in putrified ducts that you can invite to the caravan and once there it'll sell you flea locations

I genuinely can't imagine trying to play Steel Soul in a game where it's standard for enemies and traps to do 2 damage and health upgrades are almost nonexistent. I'm just imagining the number of ways you can die by getting double-tapped for 4 damage during a single moment of fatigue or lapse in judgment. I always laugh at people's SS stories because you get people going "omg yeah I lost a 26 hour save file because i tried at 2 hp I thought I had one more try at it!" But in Silksong the only safe HP level is max fucking HP. Everything lower than that is in run-ending range.

Damn

That kinda hit me in the feels

>>720164384
Meh, looked away from the screen when I thought it was done. Wasn't even mad, just went back and beat it again right after and then stood the fuck back.
I've gotten wrecked by the benches in hunter's march and bilewater too, but I think it's just good banter.

Is there a charm that stops you getting maggots when you fall in the maggoty water. Stuck on bilewater gauntlet

>>720166582
I've found barely any, I'm at the Widow fight and so far I only have the basic throwing knife, triple throwing knife, spike trap and javelin (I also know where the boomerang is but haven't picked it up yet). Spike trap is the only on that feels particularly good so far.

Cozy snoozer

>>720168794
No but the devs were really inspired by metroid in this. You had the zero mission "recoer your stuff" part, the three statues that block the path to the final boss, light pads on the snow mountain that look copied from the metroid prime 2, and some songs had a big similarity to metroid ones.

>>720168940
minor spoiler: secret wall nearby
big spoiler: it's in the station room

>>720169157
everyone cheeses it through savescum/backup save or literally cheats.

>>720163945
This happened so much it became comedic

>play with Reaper crest the moment I get it
>late chapter 2 and I give Wanderer a shot
>it's actually broken as fuck
If you used Wanderer crest, you did not beat the game. It probably synergizes really well with the Weighted Belt too, but I gotta experiment more later to confirm.

does the game ever ramp up to 3 damage attacks?

>>720169150
Thanks man

>>720168979
i don't believe you need to see either of the bad endings in hollow knight before you can do the stuff for radiance, you just get the awoken dream nail by killing the dream bosses, do white palace for the second half of kingsoul, then go to abyss and so on.
the main difference is that you don't get locked out of the other endings in hollow knight because the good ending is part of the final boss fight, whereas in silksong there is additional content afterwards and you are no longer able to fight the original final boss.

>>720164205
i get very frustrated as well, im just too stubborn to give up and basically bruteforce my way through

>>720169067
Maybe Im misremembering, but didnt the abyss in that game only unlock after you did the default "bad" ending ?

>>720168953
You have to come from the archives via a huge pit

>>720169253
yes, on the true final boss

>>720169018
I'm just sad seeing the state of the realm in act 3. It's DEPRESSING. It seemed way more alive before even though it was already in ruins

Can I run through the ice zone or do I need an upgrade?

>>720169157
>steel soul mode
>speedrun cheevo
im not doing your tranny achievemetns

>>720169253
Yes, on two bosses

I entered Bilewater through Sinner's Road, and I found the fast travel point but I have no idea where to go next within this zone. I know West of the fast travel point is a new zone to me, but I want to do Bilewater first before I move on. There's a passage directly above in that huge vertical area, but it looks like there's a door that can only be opened from the other side.

I see Sharka is nearby, but I don't know how to reach her from here.

how are you all liking the game?
im still on act 1 and i havent enjoyed myself like this in a long time
the flying enemies are pieces of shit though

>>720169329
the upgrade that blocks the cold is at the end of the ice zone. get your big boy pants on.

>>720168794
no its a bloodborne rip off

>>720169381
u need double jump

>>720169329
The varia suit/double jump is at the top of the mountain
Have fun

>>720169157
It's the kind of game where you'll spend 10 of your 26 hours farming shards to nuke bosses with. You can stockpile like 1000 damage in spells and tools going into fights and blow it all in 0.1 seconds when it'd normally take 50 nail hits to do that amount of damage.

God, imagine losing a run to the fucking diagonal pogo.

>>720169381
later game area
I believe HK had zone previews like this too, I just can't recall

>>720169187
wreath of purity, it's in putrified ducts

>>720169389
im on act 1, and the only thing that's pissing me off is my controller pissing me off from disconnecting.
other than that, yeah, best game ive played in years.

>>720169389
>play silksong until my hands hurt
>close the game and talk about silksong on /v/
>repeat
that's been my life for the past few days
this game is amazing

>>720169245
I got fractured skull and wanderer crest early on and used both since. Looking at retards trying to diagonal pogo their way through the cogworks, I can see why people consider it journalist mode.

There’s a little secret corridor in the top right room of whispering vaults but I don’t see anything in it, am I missing something?

>>720169245
I don't see it. Upgraded Hunters feels way better if you learned the pogo. Wanderer's lack of range comes back to bite me in the ass more often than not, many encounters won't give me a chance to just whale on them and it lacks a second tool slot unless you get another for it later.

>>720169381
you can't do much else there without double jump, go to the silent hill zone. the boss there is megakino.

>>720169451
queen's garden was like that. you could only access a very small portion of it before the lategame.

>get to Karmelita
>long song animation
>then you gotta run through an empty platforming section
>then do an enemy gauntlet
>THEN you can try the boss again

>>720169513
The narrow lit room with the hanging silkeater or a different one?

Can someone help me remember where the bug that captures you and sends you to the prison was? I escaped a while ago and continued on with the game but I want to go back and kill the bug because I forgot about him. Just for revenge

>>720169579
he's not there anymore. hes the bug u killed to get ur robe back

Where do I go after getting clawline? I feel trapped in the section with the engineer bug.

>>720169389
I liked it once I got to act 2. Act 1 is garbage, I honestly think it's inexcusable to release something like that. It's a perfectly competent metroidvania but there's no love put into it and it's obviously there just to pad the game.

>>720169313
You are misremembering, I've never even seen the regular ending and I have all 3 others

>>720169513
Ceiling. That's how you get to Bilewater.

>>720163185 (OP)
>in my experience, even gods can die
So it is a sequel? Unless the Pale King has been a corpse for a while now.

>>720169567
Oh, I’m retarded, I must have cleared it already. Thanks anon.

>>720169638
nevermind I'm an idiot you go left you just fucking go left

>>720169282
>whereas in silksong there is additional content afterwards and you are no longer able to fight the original final boss.
Fuck it I might as well ask for a spoiler since I really want to explore the map but dont want to accidentaly miss the bad ending.
What should I avoid doing to not skip it ? My brother mentioned something about a second quest from the witch who gives you that poison pouch.

>>720169559
Yeah, it fucking sucks.

>>720169638
there's a lever that opens a bridge to the other half of underworks, i forget if it's behind a breakable wall or not but there's not much space around that one vertical shaft so i'm sure you can figure it out

>>720169638
There's a gold ring hanging in fay mountain across from the slab bellbeast station.

>>720169619
thanks, didn't realize it was the same enemy lol

>>720169389
i wish that i didn't need internet to figure everything out but other than that it's really really fun

>>720169410
>>720169451
>>720169556

Alright, cool. I thought I was just blind and couldn't find the path.

>>720169559
Green Knight is worse, at least with Karmelita you can just delete all the mooks with two counts of the fire buff
And since it's a dream boss, your tools get reverted upon loss, so you don't have to farm shards

>>720169509
>>720169529
I'm talking about DPS, not pogo. You literally melt enemies with it compared to Reaper. Granted some enemies are way more comfy with the extra range, like Lace 2

Is there a way to open that damn metal door in the house in Craw Lake? It's been on the back of my mind all game and now I'm hearing voices behind it.

needed a specific weapon for this puzzle

>>720169720
I was stuck there for a moment before seeing the opening on the left. I saw it on the map but I couldn't find it somehow.

>>720169806
That is not how you're supposed to do it, there's another breakable wall lower that turns on a fan.
That said, I also did this.

i'm not using my tools
what if i need them later

>shakra will help you with the conductors gauntlet if you completed her wish before doing it
and here was i thinking i would have to struggle through it

>>720169806
Bro you just had to go back to the shaft, find a broken wall below, smash it, turn the lever to open up the airflow lmao.

I feel as though I missed something in Whiteward. That area was too fucking weird for it to just be a straight path through to the cauldron.

>>720169865
What else are you going to use your shards for ?

>>720169797
Yeah it swings way faster than the others, really good when you stun a boss. Coupled with its mobility advantage, there's no reason to change it unless you want to gimp yourself, which I'll do in playthrough 2.

>>720169802
I'm in the same boat I've probably ran around all of greymoore 50 times over the last 5 hours

>>720168731
Come back in act 3 when there are four targets. Hit all four targets with one boomerang. The Ant Queen will show up and replace your boomerang witht the upgraded version.

>>720169905
Did you get the key from the garbage disposal, trek back to that one weird lock in the entrance, fall down and kill the big boy with a silk heart?

>>720169509
I did cogworks with diagonal pogos and it really wasn't that bad

What things should I purchase from NPCs or do before triggering Act 3 so I don't miss out on stuff?

>>720169723
when you kill the final boss without the good ending requirements, you get one button prompt, which is "bind." if you have the requirements, you get two prompts. choose bind to see the bad ending, choose the other to progress to act 3.
so even if you do the good ending stuff, you're safe. just pick bind to see the bad ending then kill her again.

>>720169797
That rarely happens enough for me to justify the drawbacks. Reaper also gives you the silk pods while Hunter gets a damage boost reward that probably does more DPS, especially since most things won't just sit there and let you hit them.

>>720169806
Took me like 30 minutes, didn't do any pogo, just well time wall jump and double jump.

>>720169802
You get a challenge letter from the birds when sitting on a bench in Act 3 randomly.

>>720169874
She is not the only one who can help you out.
I wonder if you can get both at once.

>>720170002
You can miss a fight apparently (I probably missed it, didn't check) Shakra's fight
>>720164060

>>720169874
>It was intentionally unfair because you were assumed to have someone else
Goddamnit

>>720170039
hunter is definitely better than wanderer against most bosses as long as you're good at dodging, especially after the second hunter upgrade

>>720168793
You need to get him to move on before taking the tyrant quest. That involves getting him to tell you his name in act 1, coming back in act 2 to find that he has moved on. Then you can trigger the tyrant quest.

His name is Pilby Pilgrim
HIS NAME IS PILBY PILGRIM AND HE WAS MY FRIEND

>>720169905
No I did not. Key from the garbage disposal, what - Is that in the Whiteward or underworks?

>>720168794
I am finding a lot of Megaman Zero elements in this game to be honest.

>>720169874
How do you get Shakra's wish?

Got to be honest, not looking forward to fighting any of these bosses in Radiant mode

Can you still get the Longclaw in ch3?

How do I get up here? I just want to buy a goddamn map

>>720169976
No I did not. Key from the garbage disposal, what - Is that in the Whiteward or underworks? oop replied to myself somehow.

>>720170164
How do you get him to tell you his name? I talked to him repeatdly and never got it, killed the tyrant before the quest even happened and instantly turned it in. Then, I think after I killed widow, I went back to him again to try talking and the tyrant showed up and killed him

this seems uncomfortable

>>720170102
I doubt that it's entirely missable but I'm starting to doubt, have yet to find a way to fight her in act 3.

>>720170289
you need double jump. come back later.

WHY IS SANDS OF KARAK SO FREAKIN LOUD (sorry for caps, i lost my hearing)

>>720170135
Yeah I have that and so you get rewarded for avoiding attacks while getting in hits. Apparently there are 7 our 8 crests totally but I've only found 4 so far, so I'm a bit hesitant to keep upgrading as it is.

>>720170039
I often am able to get 1 extra hit on the openings using Wanderer, maybe more in some cases with the Weighted Belt. Plus whiffing my attacks is less punishing due to attacks being way faster. I definitely want to do a 2nd playthrough with Hunter only too to see how it compares.

>>720170326
Yeah I will check tomorrow, but I guess better safe than sorry for other anons

>>720170303
She doesn't mind

>>720169315
HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW
thanks anon <3

>>720170437
>"I wish little ghost was here"

>>720170272
Oh itll be fine, they all have clean telegraphs for the most part. No random jumps here

>>720170437
why did they make the fleas so fucking cute

>>720170301
I just kept going back to town every time I completed something and he would have a new piece of dialog. It's standard metroidvania stuff to constantly check back and look for new dialog or stuff at the shops when you beat a boss, get a new skill, or visit a new area.

>>720170238
i think you need to buy all the maps from her, and then you get the quest in bellhart

>>720170025
So it gives the option to pick one of them. Okay thats not bad, thanks for clearing that up.

>>720167968
Act 3 upgrade

>>720170542
I can't help but "awoo" with them

>>720169917
pilgrim donations

So now that the dust has settled, how much do we think Team Cherry enjoyed making the game?

Was it really development "heaven"?

>>720170805
They paid themselves to fuck around for seven years and got paid millions for it.

>>720170805
Yeah, I'm willing to bet they're cackling when they made Bilewater gauntlet mandatory in the runback.

>>720170805
Yeah, I believe they had fun with it, I can tell by just playing the game.

>>720170805
yes genuinely
some of the shit in this game is unreal
like the kind of "BRO WOULDNT IT BE COOL IF THAT HAPPENED BRO???" kind of shit

team cherry literally turned into ideas guys that turned their ideas into reality

>>720170102
Well, if that's the only fight that's fine. She's summonable outside of Bellhart and I can spar with her whenever, although there's seemingly no reward.

>>720170805
i can see their shit eating grins when making bilewater desu
>now make the bench a trap.... for the third time LMAOOOO
>how about we make the enemies spawn right in their face here, here and here
>DUDE i know you were finished with this arena 4 years ago but how about we add a boss at the end LOOOL
>also remove that bench over there to make the runback 5 minutes from the secret one XDDD

>>720170935
>like the kind of "BRO WOULDNT IT BE COOL IF THAT HAPPENED BRO???" kind of shit
>team cherry literally turned into ideas guys that turned their ideas into reality
100% this. The things in this game give off that feeling so much.

Like Act 3 is a complete "ideas guy" moment. If I told /v/ the shit that happened in Act 3 before Silksong came out no one here would believe me. But the aussies actually did it.

I spent yesterday struggling with the savage beastfly thing too many times to count before I gave up and continued with the game, then came back today and killed him in 3 tries. It was all luck with not getting the bigger adds to spawn and killing him fast enough in the first phase without him spawning too many adds.

>>720167093
in game btw act 3stuff

>>720171081
>oh and make this a mandatory boss for Act 3
>broooo lmaooooooooo

WHAT DO I DO WITH THIS NASTY LITTLE BABY

>>720171147
I gave up and came back later with a damage upgrade and some snazzy tools.

>>720170805
how many people actually get to make their fucking dream game with zero regard for budget and complete creative freedom? you only ever get one of those max.
i'm sure they had a great time. act 3 especially feels like something that was originally planned to be smaller but they went ahead and said "well what if we just do THIS and THAT and what if everything was THIS" and then just fucking did it because they could, nobody was trying to rush the game out to get profits up for the next quarter or whatever the fuck and they were incapable of running out of money.

Silksong is a love letter to themselves

Team Cherry made this game for no one other than themselves
Thats what it feels like

I hate the clawline. They should have stolen Ori's grappling hook.

>>720171298
They made it to troll their fans.

>>720171363
>i hate the clawline
you are literally the first person i've seen to have this opinion
please explain

>>720171363
Clawline is pure kino.

MOGS flying enemies and is basically an extra dash.

>>720171203
take it here, it starts a painful and unskippable quest line doe so beware

should i use the simple key to liberate that npc on sinner's road?

>>720170805
Development heaven doesnt exist. This is an indie game, 5-7 years dev time is normal unless youre Toby Fox. People forget that Hollow Knight was worked on for the same amount of time before the kickstarter, just with significantly less hysteria surrounding it since it was their first game.
I can say they felt no pressure to communicate since the game wouldve been succesful either way, but no one "accidentally" misses their 2022 deadline by 4 fucking years and tells no one because development is going "well"

>>720171528
probably not. freeing him doesn't actually do anything until much, much, MUCH later in the game, by which point you'll have found the other simple keys and locked doors anyway. save him for last.

>>720171409
Not him but I hate how it sometimes damages you when you jump to an enemy. Feels like it should have some iframes really.
Movement wise its cool, but I feel it's kinda risk prone in fights

>1 tool missing
>It's the fucking Snare Setter
Can these three do anything right

how many ending are there
i have done 2 bad ending and twisted child ending, i know there are true end, are there more?

>>720170164
He quit for me too, did you ever find him again?

How do you upgrade the Silkshot? The room on the mountain is dead for me.

reminder there is a hidden bench in blighttown (hit the walls at the bottom in the area, you WILL need this bench to avoid the shitty runback for the boss.

>>720171720
can you get all endings in one save file?

>>720171720
3 endings and some joke shit with mister mushroom no one has found

act 3
how do i get the summons for the craw thing? i heard you need to rest on a bench and reload but it isn't triggering

>>720171697
I legit don't know how I'm gonna get the boomerang.

>>720168231
Sadly he never got to see Silksong

>>720171731
Not yet

>>720171203
talk to an npc in shellwood, the one you gave pollips to. it starts an unskippable and painful quest line though so beware

>>720171797
I heard someone say it's above his body

If I'm being honest I think I preferred act 1 to act 2. It felt more cohesive

>>720171774
mushroom ending was found

>>720171797
I heard some anon say it spawns on the room with the big guy + flying guy gauntlet at the top of the area

>>720167451
>which is fucking worthless vs the true final boss btw
I got humbled on my first attempt because of this

>>720171763
the runback is still shit and the worst in the game

>>720168793
>>720170164
Why not just don't do the quest? Near as I can tell you just get a crown fragment and a town destroyed from it, which is a pretty lopsided deal.

>>720171803
So it goes.

>>720171409
It's too precise. But inconsistently so.
I just got it and that first gap where you cross three rings I had it sail right over the third ring multiple times without hooking. But then when you get to the other side and go up it homes in on that higher ring. But then when going back to the right towards the gauntlet, if you're just a little too low, it won't grab the bug.
And why does everything have to cost silk?

>>720171813
Also locks you out of an ending if you finish the quest before facing Silk Granny

>>720171851
how did you get there

>>720167915
Does it actually say this in game or is it just from that TC blog from years ago?

>>720171752
you can't upgrade it only craft 3 different versions at 3 different spots

if you gave it to the architect or the other tool crafter you're just fucked