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Now that the dust has settIed, I've come to realize that Silksong was just merely a fun little distraction while Clair Obscur is high art, the likes of which we won't see again for many years.

based

who was in the wrong here?

>>720240282 (OP)
Imagine sampling the first batch of milk from those young breasts. I feel like it would be a permanent +1 Constitution buff.

>turn-cringe
Loline won

>>720240282 (OP)
I'm really enjoying Silksong, but yeah it doesn't hit like E33 did.

>>720240543
who

>>720240282 (OP)
Do you still get paid as much as right after launch?

>>720240491
They were both wrong.

>>720240282 (OP)
>literal QTE combat
>high art
No different from people claiming that Heavy Rain was high art

>>720240282 (OP)
Maelle you're shitting yourself go to the toilet,

>>720241524
>posting on /v/
>for free even
lol, lmao even

>>720240491
fuck both of them
the true choice is picking maelles ending only to save golgra and the rap battling grandis

>>720240282 (OP)
Silksong was boring and drawn-out. Finishing it felt like a chore. E33 was about the right size and I was left wanting more. If there were other titles in the series, I'd get on them immediately.

KCD2 and Bananaza are both better games

>>720241524
No I’m getting money from Team Cherry now

>>720240282 (OP)
These two fanbases largely do not overlap and this attempt to get them to dislike each other is probably too clever for indians on the job, so I must ask: Why do you shitpost?

>>720241964
I liked SS and consider it a solid 2nd place. But that was the last real challenger to E33 this year. GOTY is locked in.
>But Death Stranding 2!
>Bananza!
>Kingdom Come 2!
Mediocre and forgettable. I'm looking forward to Yotei but I already know it's going to be a retread. Hopefully a fun one.

>>720240491
both
>>720241525
this

>>720242568
Competing for GOTY bragging rights causes all fanbases to overlap.

>>720242820
vavra rugpulled supports of KCD1 in a very jewish manner, they may yet reward him for it.
>>720242887
HK fans have been discussing their game contentedly for like 8 years and they already love SS, E33 fans were just glad that a small company put out a good game and the risk of having a heavily story based RPG paid off for once. It feels like the only people concerned about either of these games winning GOTY are AAA fanboys that desperately want their own games to get it.

>>720242820
Why are you people so obsessed with an award?

>>720240282 (OP)
Clair Obscur is boring
it's like the whole game is the last dungeon in a FF
no variety, just the last trek to the last boss in a "oh look so chaotic everything is detroyed" environement
a normal world is need first to feel the weight of the destroyed world

>>720240282 (OP)
>generic blurry UE5 slop
>high art

>>720240282 (OP)
>tfw porn of her is banned
fug

>>720243086
needed*

>>720243086
can you post it again, in english this time?

>>720243215
Which word or sentence did you not understand?

>>720240861
how it that playtime even possible

>>720240282 (OP)
>4 niggas in a row
>high art
lmao

>>720243492
went through NG+ twice for a baguette weapon

>>720243492
having fun

>>720240282 (OP)
is that clair? she's really pretty.

>>720243086
You should try playing the game.

>>720243904
i went like 15 hours in, when does it get better? all i saw was the same reality warped/everything destoyed repetitive environnement

>>720243726
>>720243756
thats fair

>>720240282 (OP)
dont you think the fact your “high art” is being put up against a 2d metroidvania a sign that it isn’t really high art? Like nobody compares Beethoven to Imagine dragons, because Beethoven is in a completely different league.

>>720240491
Verso for not sitting on my cock

>>720240282 (OP)
both pale in comparison to project nortubel

I GOT EXPEDITION 33 FATIGUE FROM THE SHILLS WHO KEEP POSTING THREADS ON THE DAILY. I WONDER HOW MUCH THEYRE GETTING PAID TO DO THIS.

>>720240282 (OP)
They're both subpar games for casuals pretending to be "real" gamers.

>>720244102
What's the last environment you saw? The first few areas (Lumiere, Spring Meadows, Flying Waters, Ancient Forest, Esquie's Nest, Stone Wave Cliffs) all look extremely different. What about them is repetitive?

>>720244313
I recommend spending less time on reddit saar.

>>720240282 (OP)
Except the artistic qualities of Silksong easily surpass those of E33. Visually, Silksong is original and hand crafted, whereas E33 is ugly and mostly made of asset flips. Where special effects and that sort of thing come into play, Sandfall didn't do any artwork for that because they outsourced the work to Koreans.
Musically E33 is technically better, but I don't personally believe anyone likes violin that much. It's more of a bandwagon thing.
Silksong even beats E33 on story. The emotion evoked in the lore of these stupid little bugs is more human and authentic than anything in E33, which focuses more on melodrama.
And in terms of gameplay, Silksong wins hands down. Its game design is far more artistic in conception and in the fruits of the player's execution.

>>720243492
I did only on run and my playtime is 170 hours or so.
I played most "Offline", i.e. I didn't browse /v/ or saw content related to the game.
In the end I pretty much did all by my own, except killing Simon.
I reached Arc III in like 55 hours, so the rest of the game was me doing side quests and exploring

>>720244897
>mostly made of asset flips
May I see them?

>>720244967
>170 hours in one run and didn't kill simon
Were you just not interested in cheesing? Once you've got everything there are a number of ways to trivialize the fight.

>>720244897
>Sandfall didn't do any artwork for that because they outsourced the work to Koreans
Stop lying Rasheet, Sandfall did every artwork of the game. Koreans only monkeycoded gameplay animation.
Rest of your brown post is discarded.

>>720243492
I have a similar playtime. I played on expert? Or is it expeditioner, the hardest one anyway, without bothering with any gay shit like "builds" or "stats". I did level up and use pictos/luminas but mostly utility ones and not damage ones and just played the game more like dark souls where I banged my head against each enemytype and boss until I learned their attacks. I could probably do most blindfolded now. I unironically had fun

>>720245126
I actually didn't understand what was the point of having many energising stats like I, II, III, it was my fault for not experimenting with it, but then again I pretty much got all the pictos needed.
I played in expert, and I beat all the other bosses like the couple made of Renoir & Aline in the Endless tower or Clea's painting pretty much parrying.
In the end, I was lvl 99 and most regular bosses I pretty much was able to 1 hit kill.

>>720245595
I get you, Simon is just an extreme skill check for parrying or cheesing, you won't beat him the way you beat other bosses.

>>720244967
>>720245549
I legit thought the game was like a 30 hour experience at most so I assumed it had to be multiple playthroughs.

>>720246582
You can do everything, including optional content, related to the story in about 30 hours, but completionist runs on a first playthrough tended to run about double that from what I've seen.

Expedition 33 is not the best JRPG, is the best RPG of ALL TIME.

>>720246840
>AI generated
GOOD MORNING SAR

>>720247174
yes

>>720247295
that's a man

>>720246840
>>720241586

Cute indie game you got. You might get lucky just because GTA 6 isn't out this year in the music department

>>720246582
It technically is if you only do the story and some side stuff and don't die much, but on hard and doing most side stuff can easily double/triple that. Souls games are technically 10-hour games, but you're gonna die a lot and not know where to go so they end up lasting more like 30 hours on a first playthrough.

>>720247370
Of course not, she has lordosis like every girl from a videogame.

>>720240282 (OP)
based

for me it's maelle with vintage hair in pure outfit

>>720250509
>p
For me it's painted me + baguette hair (in blackface)

>>720250509
Short White Hair + Obscura Outfit

>>720240282 (OP)
It's okay.

>>720240861
based kino enjoyer

>>720250671
lmao filtered

>>720240543
lolines game is better for my dick and for bringing my favorite streamer back, but objectively e33 is better in pretty much everyway

>>720240282 (OP)
>Now that the dust has settled
Getting real sick of your cliche catchphrases.

MAELLE SEX

>>720240282 (OP)
both games suck dick

>>720246582
It's like 30h to get to the penultimate fight and you can fly straight to the end but there's a shitlaod of "optional" content. Some of it is just challenge for it's own sake but it's also a lot of lore/story to see and that takes another 15h or something.

>>720240282 (OP)
I still need to play this. It looks fun.

>>720246840
What the fuck do you think the J in JRPG stands for, dumbass?

>>720254007
Jeuropean

>>720240282 (OP)
Cumming inside Maelle.

>>720254803
when i found this outfit the game went from thinking "this is a cool artsy fartsy game" to pure goon fueled "god i wish maelles legs were wrapped around my head"
holy sexo
now post the whole thing you whore

>>720254803
What a fine body

I will never play this game because JRPGs are pure slop but the Asian with the tiddy bounce looks pretty hot.

>>720255424
I love her tight, pert ass and slim legs. God bless those horny frogs.

>>720255667
whoa, do you have more anon?

>>720255424
That's delicious. Thank god I was teenager once and had the chance to fuck a couple of these.

>>720242568
Both tranny games

>>720255774
I have this.

>>720255841
This brings back so many good memories. If men had the chance to relive one memory perfectly an infinity number of times, I bet most of us would choose to be able to relive fucking our 16yo gfs

>>720255667
>Ohh no my boots!

>>720255934
Hahahaha yeah we all had GFs in our teens hahahahaha totally bro amirite?

>>720255934
That's some pretty funny bait.

>>720241746
you don't save anything though, the Maelle ending just buys them a few more years at best before things either just end suddenly or they gradually get worse and worse as everything falls apart. even the devs say it's the bad ending

>>720240491
Verso, he just needed to play along, fuck Lune, know the joys of fatherhood, play the fucking piano like he always wanted and hang out with his BFFs with no monsters killing all his temporary friends for 60ish more years and then he was good to kill himself and send Maelle back to the real world.

why does she have no fanart

>>720256340
No thanks!

>>720253785
I thought I had played the game pretty thoroughly but it seems I actually missed a fucking ton of stuff from what I see on here. I don't even know who the fuck this Simon guy is.

>>720240282 (OP)
The Knight was a better brother than Verso

>>720243000
Personally I want E33 to be GOTY because I want more games like it, and also because it would humiliate the corporate developers who are fucking so many things up on purpose for money.

>>720240282 (OP)
Nine sols is a better game than HK anyway

>Daily E33 and crypto E33 threads
why?

>>720256513
kino easter egg

>>720256969
Why are people talking about a game they like on /v/ and not talking about gacha or politics? This is a disaster!

Maellefags have daddy issues IRL

The vegans of gaming fanbases.

>>720255582
she cute

>>720257286
>picking a faggot's side
Even gayer.

>>720240491
there was no choice. verso is the canon ending. dude obviously beats maelle in a 1 on 1.

>>720259185
Monoco doesn't have any balls so it's not gay when they cuddle

>>720259185
FACTS, they play any other game with a final boss thats goal is literally "i wanna end the world" you find it out pretty early too. Verso lied the entire game basically. and youre like "nah fk that" goes on to defeat the final boss. You didnt care what this "evil person" wanted because you cared about the "many" in this developed (aka painted) world. Then the popular choice in E33 is Verso ending. I'm just like bruh. Did you ever just stop playing at the final boss fight for every game youve ever played (because the final boss was sad or didnt get their way)? I chose Maelle's in a heartbeat.

>>720259864
b-b-but verso doesn't want to play the piano. That means that all the sentient paint people with feelings, dreams and free will have to die.

>>720261367
They're going to die soon either way, anon. Or be repeatedly erased and brought back by Maelle when they go against her will, like she's already doing to Verso and the ending shows the paint consuming her. Maelle ending leads to her becoming the evil god everyone thought the Paintress was in the beginning.

>>720240282 (OP)
e33 shills are bigger non-gamer tourists than last of us shills, and far more insecure than those guys as well. the french truly are a talentless, soulless lot of hacks. also you fags lost GOTY.

>>720261506
Based. Verso reaps what he sowed for decades.

>>720240282 (OP)
>Clair Obscur is high art, the likes of which we won't see again for many years.
Very true. E33 is the Ulysses of video games. If you don't agree, you're high brow enough.

>>720262095
Reaps what he sows? He was painted into the world as a replacement son for an insane woman. He knows that he is not real, he's just a painted copy of a dead person, and yet he still wants to save and protect the real Verso's family. He's the only one who knows that none of this is real, that it's all just a painting, and he still tries to make other people's lives better. Still, he intends to put an end to the lie. In other words, you're a dumb bitch.

Never played hollow knight but it looks like one of the millions of already existing 2D side scroller

>>720262453
He was drawn into existence by one insane woman and then is forced to continue living against his will by another insane woman, and somehow people think he's the bad guy.

silkfags have gone into seething overdrive over the metacritic score lol. Even tendies weren’t this mad

>>720262453
>He's the only one who knows that none of this is real
So why do do you care about him suffering?

>>720262453
You left out the part where he murdered his squad for daring to question him btw

>>720262850
Or how he got to spend 70 years having the time of his life with real Verso's imaginary friends and plapping cute expeditioner girls while the Lumerians were desperately trying to avoid getting genocided.

>>720262962
Is it ever explained that Aline is going to die if the number reaches 0 or is Verso just soooo tired of living that he wants to speed up the process?

>>720262191
Not only have you never read ulysses, you don't even know what its about.

>>720262813
What a strange gotcha. Did you even play the game?

>>720262850
>>720262962
no reason to act childish and tell lies. Just admit that you hate Renoir because he reminds you of your father, and you're jealous of Verso, and you had gay feelings for Gustav.

>>720263434
>no reason to act childish and tell lies
>Verso reaps what he sows
Where's the lie? He murdered his squad for questioning him, Maelle kills him for opposing her. That's karma. Did you even play the game?

>>720263601
You watched a stream of it didn't you

>>720262850
>>720262962
Or how he intentionally let Gustave die, a man his sister loves, just because he didn't wanna chance an argument later.
Verso apologists are actually braindead

>>720263627
>deflects

>>720263601
>Maelle kills him for opposing her
No she doesn't, she basically controls his body and makes him act out her escapist fantasies while he suffers. She could just erase him at any time and continue living her imaginary painting life, but she forces him to continue suffering just for her own sake, knowing exactly what that means and having 100% control of reality. She's the closest thing to an evil character in the game, even though she's just doing it out of pain and grief.

>>720263434
What is it with your faggot ass and Renoir? You come into every thread projecting your daddy issues onto everyone else.

>>720263316
Wrong and wrong. I know high art. E33 and Ulysses are both in the same echelon of timeless media. When you think Ulysses, you think E33. When you think Joyce, you think Svedberg-Yen. There are no equals.

>>720263639
Are you actually fucking stupid? In either ending, the painting world ends. One is sooner than the other, and the other might be a lot more painful, but the world is doomed either way.

Maellefags never even consider for a second how the soul of true Verso feels, the boy who made this painting that has since been defaced and turned into a hell by his insane family. The boy who is tired of all this but is trapped in this painting with them anyway, and he never even liked painting. He just wanted to play music.

>>720263204
What was Aline even holding on to at that point?
Her Clea had disappeared, her Verso was hanging around with expeditioners trying to kick her out of the painting and all she had was the daughter that she hated and a walking dildo version of the guy that broke her fake family.

>>720263204
Pretty sure that at 0, everything that she added to the fantasy Gestral world Verso originally painted is erased completely. Maybe the original painting would be left but either way it will be destroyed IRL

>>720263884
I got the impression that Aline is communicating with Versos soul directly through the little boy. There is an audiolog in the estate that alludes to it.
>>720263758
Not every argument is talking about the ending. Despite your binary ass thinking that anyone talking shit about Verso somehow also must believe that the Maelle ending is superior, that is not the case.
Or is your argument that Verso can do as he likes without pushback because the world is ending anyway? In that case you're even bigger retard

I know Clair Obscur had a great story but I got bored with it.

>>720264147
Don't try to act all rational now. You have some personal reason for wanting Verso to suffer forever, what is it?

>>720264354
I enjoyed it through the end. Though I don't agree with Verso being the party's face in act 2 forwards. My main gripe was how fast the balance fucks off in act 3. I know there were some patches later.
>>720264468
>now
Are you thinking I'm some other anon? Or are you projecting these "personal reasons" unto me?

>>720263709
My headcanon is that painted Verso has to stay alive because part of real Verso's soul is bound to him as well and the painting is destroyed if he dies.

>>720264774
>My main gripe was how fast the balance fucks off in act 3
that's to reflect the struggle of staying in the painting when it's time to go. things are either overwhelming or trivial and boring. It's foreshadowing, because you can end the game at any time by just going to Lumiere, but you're not ready to go yet.

>>720265325
Or maybe they just couldn't think of any way to make certain sidequests like dealing with p. Alicia and p. Clea parts of the main quest.

>>720254803
why the fuck is there still not a single maelle animation except (1) garbage bla**ed shit. I'm pissed at you /v/

>>720240282 (OP)
MAELLE SEXOOOOOOOO

>>720240282 (OP)
Did E33 not expect this level of success? I'm not seeing a lot of engagement from the devs with the community.

>>720268212
they're almost definitely surprised. plus I don't think they have a big PR department, also frogs hate speaking English so

>>720263639
Gustave would've lived if he weren't willing to sacrifice the entire mission (he had the vitally important lumina converter on him) to distract Renoir for a few more seconds while Maelle was in a cage that neither he nor she could get her out of

>>720264258
Verso never wanted to paint and his biggest source of sadness is that he no longer gets to play with his sister. Of course it's particularly painful to see that sister destroying the place they had fun. Doesn't change the FACT that when asked if he wants to stop, he stops.

>>720259307
>Obviously
He has a fragment of the real Verso and she is Alicia, the actual, godlike Alicia. Maelle is fucking dead in Act 3. Verso only wins because Alicia is canonically total shit at being a painter.

>>720268347
I wonder what the extent is of free will for the painted people, if any. Like how Gustave looks suspiciously like Verso and acts a lot like him, and the other people around Maelle sort of fall into the roles she needs that also echo with her family members. I don't think she's doing it on purpose, at least not at first, but I suspect that painters alter the painting around them to suit their desires in some way.

>>720261998
Lol Bananza isn't in either of those games' league. Get that propped up tendie shit out of there.

>>720240491
>>720259307
If they adapt it it should be a mini series, the penultimate episode should end with Verso and Maelle drawing weapons in front of babby versro, the final two episodes should be titled "Choose Only One -Maelle" and "Choose Only One - Verso", and starting one episode should immediately remove access the other choice. Viewers can be given the same kino as players.

>>720240491
fuck both of them.

>>720268457
>I wonder what the extent is of free will for the painted people, if any.
Nothing suggests their capacity is less than non-painted humans.
>Gustave looks suspiciously like Verso
He simply does not.

>>720268457
They have no free will. Maelle's ending clearly shows that.

>>720240282 (OP)
strange comparison

silksong is indie slop, expedition 33 is european arthouse made vidya

For me, it's Alicia.

>>720268212
They definitely had a lot more backing counting on the game to be successful than le small indie team narrative that's been pushed.

>>720268601
I'm not saying they're identical but they obviously look similar. Also Lune is like a sister, Sciel is like a mother, etc in regards to Maelle. She is a paintress whether she knows it or not, and literally everything in that world exists exactly how and when painters want it. There are plenty of things to suggest they don't have free will, most obviously how Alicia forces painted Verso to play the piano against his will, using the one thing he himself genuinely loves to cause him pain.

everything bad in E33 can be traced back to Verso letting Gustave die.

>>720268781
Gustave and Verso do not look at all similar. But I do agree with you that there are strong parallels to their actions - Verso helped build the Dome, Gustave maintains it, Verso and Gustave both sacrificed themselves to save Alicia/Maelle from a mess she got herself in, both of them rather grimly settled into a life of violence and fighting when they wanted to pursue intellectual pursuits. Sciel and Lune are not like anyone in Alicia's family and she wasn't drawn to them. We don't see much of Emma, Gustave's sister, but she seems kind of like Clea in that she's taking a lot on to try to keep everything going.
>and literally everything in that world exists exactly how and when painters want it.
I never bought this, either. I just don't think Verso masterminded every rock formation or river bend in the canvas when he painted it, I believe the painter's magic fills in gaps and makes things believable. There's nothing suggesting that the Lumierens Aline created weren't free to do and think as they please after the creation.
>There are plenty of things to suggest they don't have free will, most obviously how Alicia forces painted Verso to play the piano against his will
This only shows that a painter CAN take away a painter person's free will, not that painted people cannot have free will. By your own logic, she's forcing him to do it, meaning he'd do something else without her intervention.

>>720268746
Now everyone's wanting more and I haven't seen anything significant coming from them in months. Not even an announcement of an announcement.

>>720268739
>a paintress denied her oniichan

>>720268871
Alicia causing Verso to die, actually.

>>720269037
Good, I hope they don't rush anything. I don't care if their next game takes 8 years like Silk Song did, I just want them to make another good game.
>>720269064
Where do you find the room with the doghouse and the noco/monoco bowls in the real manor? I couldn't find it.

>>720256291
They said the opposite, it's the better ending. Also nothing is falling apart in a few years.

>>720240282 (OP)
they need multiplayer
sims + gtao + renfair

>>720269209
>They said the opposite,
May I see it?

>>720269037
Let them enjoy their French cocaine and French hookerss before their chink and jew backers start forcing them to churn out a game every year.

>>720269402
Are the French into cocaine?

>>720268414
He's not asking him if he wants to stop painting. He tells him "It's time to stop painting" and reaches out his hand. The plan is to destroy it, it's just Verso being a manipulative liar again.

>>720269494
If I want to keep painting and someone tells me it's time to stop painting, I simply keep painting.

>>720240491
She was in the wrong but her perspective is valid, without the fire she was just shy and introverted but as a cute rich girl she would've been totally fine. After the fire everything was fucked but still, Verso's ending lets both of them win because as he even tells her she can paint so she can (and undoubtedly will) make her own canvases only maybe she can do it more responsibly. Forcing a sliver of Verso's soul to continue painting forever is cruel and disrespects his memory.

>>720269559
He just wanted to hold Versos hand for a while, not be murdered.

>>720269651
Proof?

>>720269016
>I never bought this, either. I just don't think Verso masterminded every rock formation or river bend in the canvas when he painted it, I believe the painter's magic fills in gaps and makes things believable
That makes sense, however they could still alter it in any way they desire at any time, or even make it so that none of those things ever existed in the first place. Or, they could paint a world with a rich detailed history even though it just popped into existence very recently.

>By your own logic, she's forcing him to do it, meaning he'd do something else without her intervention.
fair enough, but when you and everything you know can be made into anything at any time at the will of a power beyond your comprehension, it doesn't seem very free at all. If you piss off the painter you'll either be erased or altered into something they like better, and you'll never even know it happened.

>>720269209
>Also nothing is falling apart in a few years.
it will before long. At most a couple generations left, assuming Renoir doesn't come back to get her before that. She is the weakest painter in the family and her mother, the strongest, was already going insane and losing herself after "only" about 70 years.

>having to use another game's title to bump your shitty threads
Never a good sign.

>>720269586
Why would the fragment that has been in the canvas since it was created be sad about painting? It's clearly just an allegory of the painter putting part of his soul into his work, and it would be the part that enjoys painting. It's sad because Renoir and Clea is destroying its work, not sad because it gets to paint.

>>720269717
Aline was mad with grief from the beginning, and being attacked by her crazy husband, he was also murdering hundreds of thousands of people while she was trying to keep them alive, that'd make anyone go crazy.

>>720269143
They are near the fireplace in the Epilogue flashback.

>>720269812
>It's sad because Renoir and Clea is destroying its work
Try to be less biased. His mother came into his fun little world and painted new shit all over it while going nuts, even painted a copy of him and tried to act like it was her son, then his dad came in there to help her and made shit even worse, and all kinds of stuff. Pretty much every character in the game is tragic, with both good and bad to them.

>>720240282 (OP)
That is correct, yes.

>>720269953
You're really cherrypicking and misconstruing things to fit the decision you've already made here. Everyone suffers mentally and physically if they spend too long in a painting, or don't take long enough breaks between painting. Aline once saved Renoir from it when he almost lost himself in one, and now he's trying to do the same for her. There's other stuff going on as well but don't just ignore the inconvenient parts for your feelings. That's what got everyone into the whole mess to start with.

>>720269402
The next game will be Clea's story. What sort of paintings does Clea draw? That's going to be the style of the next game.

>>720240282 (OP)
>Now that the dust has settIed, I've come to realize that Silksong was just merely a fun little distraction while Clair Obscur is high art, the likes of which we won't see again for many years.
Good morning SAR.

>>720269812
>Why would the fragment that has been in the canvas since it was created be sad about painting?
Verso never wanted to be a painter. He made this canvas (and soul fragment) before he was old enough to tell his parents that. He was sad long before the canvas started to be destroyed, because his family all outgrew the canvas and no longer played with him.
>>720269953
>Aline was mad with grief from the beginning,
So is Alicia, she feels even worse about Verso's death because she was responsible for it, and not much time has passed outside the canvas. She hasn't healed.

>>720270141
>What sort of paintings does Clea draw?
spoopy ass monsters and grumpy turtles?

>>720270020
Cool, thanks. Never saw them.

It's kinda nuts that none of the people in the painting even existed until after real Verso died, and that seems like it was pretty recent. Before that, it was just happy gestrals and fun stuff all over the place

>>720270301
I am sure Verso painted himself a gf when he was 14 and Clea bullied him over it.

>>720240282 (OP)
You don't need to shill for this game anymore. They stopped giving us our daily 50 rupees sir.

>>720270949
That was Golgra.

>>720270141
We've seen enough of Clea's paintings.
It could be Clea trapped inside a book.

I actually don't give a fuck about Clea.

>>720270949
Verso wouldn't have problems getting a gf. He's been surrounded by arthoes all his life. PARISIAN ARTHOES.

>>720271084
My working theory is that his mom was killing every gf he brought home, because she's that kind of a person. That's why he was so miserable.

>>720271147
But she created Julie as painted Verso's gf.
Aline is a grieving mother. She was never shown to be some sort of psychopath.

>>720271310
>She was never shown to be some sort of psychopath.
Except for keeping Alicia as a burnt, mute cripple and making her wear a mask.

>>720271518
Oh no. How did poor Alicia get burned? What happened?

>>720269586
>Forcing a sliver of Verso's soul to continue painting forever is cruel and disrespects his memory
Painted Verso projects his own feelings onto the soul fragment. There is no indication that the soul fragment is actually tired and wants to stop painting.

>>720271627
All we know for sure is that Verso died saving Alicia. Aline blames her for it, and it seems she blames herself for it too, maybe Clea, but we don't actually know if it's actually her fault or not. Sometimes people die helping others and the saved person feels guilty, other people even blame them, but that doesn't mean she did anything wrong.

>>720271825
>There is no indication that the soul fragment is actually tired and wants to stop painting.
It never started wanting to paint. It just enjoyed playing with its family, which stopped years ago in the real world (centuries upon centuries if not millennia in the canvas). There's a reason the real manor isn't full of active magical canvases. It's cruel to leave a sentient piece of soul in there alone.

>>720271835
>but that doesn't mean she did anything wrong.

>Hey don't trust the painters, we're at war with them and they're trying to kill us
>*trusts the painters*
>*they use this to try and kill your family*
>wooooooow how could I have possibly known!? AHHHH SAVE ME VERSO!

>>720272143
Shit I said painters instead of writers, time for bed.

>>720271835
>>720272143
There are two theories about what the writers are.
1. The Painters are an aristocratic Ancien Regime. The Writers are La Resistance.
2. The Writers are the gods of the Dessendres. They are to them what they were to Lumieriens.
Which idea makes more sense for the sequel? Or do you have some other idea?

>>720271084
He wasn't getting laid with those outfits his mom used to make him wear

>>720272289
Neither of those theories have any support because the devs rightfully did not focus on that conflict. I pray the sequel has nothing to do with the original, that story was complete and well executed.

>>720272289
Writers have nothing to do with anything and the fire was a legit accident. And Clea, being a Dessendre, and that's how the Dessendre family rolls, immediately assumed the worst case scenario and blamed everything on foul play.

>>720272289
3. The Painters are French and the Writers are Nazis and they're in magical WW2

>>720272659
They aren't even at WW1 yet in their own timeline

>>720272761
they have electricity

>>720272143
Even if she got tricked, that's still not the same as if she actually helped them kill Verso or something

>>720272874
She was in fact tricked into helping them kill Verso. I understand there was no intent, but all the same she helped kill Verso. An unthinkable position to be in for both her and her family.

>>720273056
She wasn't tricked into killing Verso. She was a target herself. Verso simply took the hit for her.

>>720240282 (OP)
I thought the game was decent, but the more I see people sing its praises to the tune of greatest thing ever made the more I hate its flaws in almost all aspects. I really hope I'm not becoming reactionary and am just forced to think about the game on a deeper level.

>>720273280
Pointlessly pedantic. She was tricked into helping with an attack on her family. Verso gave his life in place of hers.

>>720240491
verso because he should have joined renoir at the end.
player still gets a choice to pick a side the correct choice is renoirs obviously

>>720273375
it's human nature.
when you see everyone praise something you found fine you'll want to justify why you didn't like it, usually pointing out small issues.
people get defensive and argue back.
slowly you find yourself having a strong hate for something you found fine.

>>720274826
based

>>720273375
>I thought the game was decent
It's got plenty of flaws but I do firmly believe it's one of those games where if someone says, "it's bad," they just want attention. You don't have to think it's the best game ever, that it's an AMAZING game. You don't even have to like it, nothing appeals to everyone, but I just don't take people seriously when they say it's not at least a good game.

>>720240282 (OP)
>a game titled Clear Obscure is high art
lmao

>move game to different drive
>lose all my screenshots

>jrpg
>japanese role playing game
who are you roleplaying in this game again?

>>720272452
How would you have a story about the Painters without involving the head of the faction and her family?

>>720277138
you play the role of several characters :)

>>720240491
Maelle

>>720276901
Don't worry, you'll get your Lune feet pics back eventually

>>720242568
I'm not a fan of either, but I want E33 to lose purely because its fans are annoying faggots the overhype their turn based parryslop.

>>720242820
KCD2 mogs every game mentioned in this thread thoughever.

>>720279070
Entertaining slop is still slop. E33 felt creative and fresh. It's a rare feeling these days.

>>720279250
Nothing about E33 is creative or fresh. Play more games.

>>720279509
Name a better game with white aesthetics that came out recently.

>>720279595
Name a single creative or fresh thing about E33.

>>720279649
it's neither woke not hideous

>>720279712
That's not creative and it's not fresh. Try again.

>Can't defend his position
Sad, but predictable.

>>720279649
It's not a rehash of the same slop we've been seeing for over a decade. In a world where everything is a remake or a sequel or a copy of a copy, E33 isn't.
There's still a chance it will crash and burn with the sequel, but it created a world rich enough for us to talk about months after we finished the game. That's rare.

>>720240491
Unironically, everyone. Even Renoir (Real) is at fault because he's trying to control another person's grief. Yes, he's doing it for right and justifiable reasons, but Alicia pegged him correctly when she said it also had to do with his need for control because of how he failed to protect Verso.

>>720280097
>It's not a rehash
It's literally the same gameplay as a Paper Mario game, but in UE5.
>It created a rich world
Literally all anyone talks about is whether glorified AI programs are real or not. The worldbuilding is laughably shallow.

>>720280197
>It's literally the same gameplay as a Paper Mario game
This is such a stupid, reductionist argument that I genuinely can't tell if you believe the things you say or if you just enjoy saying them to cause a fight.

>>720280197
anyone who doesn't understand that the people in the canvas are real is a sociopath who would've tortured animals in their childhood if they had the opportunity to

>>720280298
Sorry, it's paper mario gameplay with le epic parrying thrown in. Better?

>>720280386
You'd still be wrong and stupid because Paper Mario also has Parrying; it's called Super Guarding. You wouldn't know this the same way you don't know anything.

>>720280480
So again, it's a derivative and uninspired retread of better games. Glad you agree.

>>720280197
There's the world inside the canvas and the world outside the canvas. We don't know a lot about the world outside of the canvas, so there's a chance they might mess it up.
But the world inside the canvas is very rich and well-made. It's like I'm swimming through the distilled essence of French culture. It's the most positive, uplifting, inspiring, and genuine portrayal of Europeans in a European setting I've seen in a long time. If someone asks me for the whitest game of the decade, I would tell them to play E33.

>You HAVE to respect my cinematic work of art!!!
No, no I don't.

>>720280612
>French culture
>Niggers and women in positions of authority in the early 1900s
You don't know shit about France, or culture in general, really.

>>720280612
>whitest game of the decade
>five minutes in, you already see black people
I mean, I GUESS that's the French experience...

>>720280612
>Whitest European setting
>Full of blacks and Asians

>>720280704
>>720280708
>>720280801
It's a fantasy city painted by Aline. Having a woman in authority would not be strange.
France had colonies in Africa and Asia so the town being 1% African/Asian is also normal.
Lore-based explanations aside, the main characters are French people doing French things in a French setting looking for French solutions to French problems. It doesn't exoticize France like a lot of games do. It doesn't try to make it gritty and "realistic". It's like reading a book written in the 19th century - European literature for Europeans.

>>720281114
>19th century Europeans
>Making an oriental and a mulatto woman main characters
Lol!

>>720280562
No shit it's derivative, every fucking game is derived from something else. Uninspired is contradictory to your first statement, otherwise you would call it a clone, which it is not otherwise it could be interchangeably played with another game and you would have the same experience.

>>720281249
Orientalism reached its peak exactly around that time. This wouldn't be strange at all at the time or even earlier.
Picrel is from the UK in the 18th century, back when the Orient was still seen as a place of wonder and mystique.

>>720280801
Lune is hot and nigger dies in the prologue.

>>720281871
exactly this
niggers being purged after the prologue is finally a bait and switch used to rectify things

>>720240282 (OP)
The only "high art" game I can think of is 1000xReist, and even that is mostly a glorified visual novel.

>>720240282 (OP)
I don't know how but E33 managed to unite the chuds and the normies.

GOTY or riot, Silksong is outdated.

>>720281728
How did you get such good looking ray traced reflections?

>>720280363
maybe just a mcdonalds factory worker grinding thousands of chickens into dust on the daily

>>720240494
You are a man of impeccable taste, anon.

>>720269037
they are making concerts bro

>>720255970
>>720255667
>>720255424
>>720254803
her with the obscur outfit + short hair was one of the hottest females i ever saw
i had to stop myself from jerking off midgame like 10 times atleast, especially when she uses stendhal and flies into the air showing her ass off
if im being honest she also carries herself really well throughout the game which is what makes her even hotter

Maelle did nothing wrong

>>720283316
This. Mindless QTEslop being passed off as a turn based rpg is what real innovation is all about.

>>720283238
It's really easy when you make a game that isn't even a game it's just a braindead red-light-green-light spamfest for women. Chuds are spiritually just faggoty women, so they're just as terrible at actual games and just as susceptible to soap opera quality writing as reaction channel women. Every e33 simp on this board is always on the verge of tears celebrating this game because it doesn't have a black guy in the main cast, because they're all manlets from broken homes who've seen their crushes get fucked by black guys their entire lives. It's really funny honestly, you can tell this game winning GOTY will be the best thing that's ever happened to these people. That level of emotionality is indistinguishable from the kinds of dumb women that sob loudly when gustave dies because they know what's what gets the views.

Really unsurprising that those two groups of emotionally vacuous and illiterate uncultured swine love e33.

>>720283238
Chuds will worship any game so long as it doesn't have a black person in the lead. Women and other normies don't know how to judge games so they just go along with anything that's popular. The game got buffed up by the "30 devs and a dog" David and Goliath narrative, so really it wasn't a surprise that a poorly-written and unimaginatively-designed game by ubisoft hacks would bget praised by people incapable of critical analysis, whose priorities are unrelated to actual game design or writing quality. It presents no challenge thanks to all the dev focus having been spent on giving the enemies different parry timings and attack strings rather than any interesting turn-based mechanics to their fights that could make normies struggle with strategies of their own. And there's easy mode too so everyone that wants a middling story to watch with their livechat will just go through it quickly on easy. It's just slop that delivers reaction channel bait opportunities to normies without ticking off chuds by showing them any niggers. Other than that it's about as much of an "innovative" game as The Last of Us.

>>720270030
He supports Aline's paintings btw

>>720240491
An impossible choice.

was /v/ always this full os schizos?
It's been a while but honest discussion is almost impossible now.

>>720240491
Maelle, baguette outfit, worst outfit.

>>720272289
They're just a rival guild of Magicians

>>720286035
How often does she have to mindrape Verso to keep him in line?

>God of anti-suicide
>Doesn't stop Aline's suicide attempt
>Doesn't stop Maelle's suicide attempt
>Conspires with Verso in his suicide attempt
What's his problem?

>>720261998
How bad has this industry become that these are the frontrunners for GOTY? This industry has fallen so bad.

>wedding ring
Why if Verso is only sad because his wife is nagging him too much?

>>720289136
*what if

>>720241524
First post best post.

>>720240282 (OP)
AI and asset store -assets make E33 eligible to be slop, not high art.

>>720240282 (OP)
>Expedition 33 shill think this mid looking hag is attractive
Embarrassing

>>720292442
Hag? She's like 15 and genuinely looks the part.

>>720290423
>AI and asset store -assets
nobody really gives a shit

tranny slop

>>720261998

E33 is one of the best game of all time retard
It completely shit on every Final Fantasy of the last 25 years

Silksong and Bananza shit on this faguette Mario RPG copy.

>>720292786
Everyone who isn't a manlet faggot insecure about his body count gives a shit.

>>720294007
>can't handle his slop being lower rated than silksong on the one site that accumulates all scores into one aggregate
try not being an ESL monkey next time you decide to sperg out at facts

>>720280386
>Sorry, it's paper mario gameplay with le epic parrying thrown in. Better?
How embarrassing, you just outed yourself as not knowing what the hell you're talking about. Expedition 33 is compared to Paper Mario precisely because of the parrying, it's the entire point of the comparison and literally all they have in common. You're trying to make a point for some reason by comparing two games having not played either of them, patching together talking points you've glimpsed from posts on 4chan and twitter. That's a really strange compulsion, for you to feel strongly enough about other people enjoying something you haven't even tried that you want to argue about it at length despite knowing very little about it.

>>720295287
talking about ai assets, not your absent father

>>720287545
It's a cute like her Sophie outfit.

>>720240282 (OP)
That was always obvious. Silksong is beer, good, cold of high quality. But E33 is a wine that they only make in one part of the world and you only get one glass but it's the best wine that exists.

>>720292786
The devs clearly didn't give a shit about what they were making, that's for sure.

>>720297879
>clearly
obscurely

>>720240282 (OP)
Isn't this the game that uses stock UE5 assets and animations? Like literally not even changed at all?

>>720240282 (OP)
I want to impregnate Maelle

>>720246840
That would be a link to the past

Corniest melodramatic movie game, you don't hate naughty dog enough for ushering in easily digestible cutscene fest games

>>720285993
>she also carries herself really well throughout the game which is what makes her even hotter
her performance capture actress has 10/10 kino posture

>>720298156
Yes.
It's KINO.

>>720240282 (OP)
Expedition fans are the gaming equivalent of movie class arthouse snobs that only watch black and white french movies about cigarettes and depression aka insufferable human beings hated even by their own parents

>>720298482
Do black and white french movies also have AI generated assets in them?

Anyone got a pic of her mocap actress?
she was cute

>>720277364
Different painters, different setting, different whatever. I hope it's an anthology like final fantasy. This game does not need a sequel, leave it alone, it was great.

>>720290423
>AI and asset store -assets
May I see them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y68VeiYAoKQ

OUR GUY LOVED THE GAME

>>720298410
my lil french bon bon

>>720299857
literally 4 comments above you, you fucking retard

Why didn't they just send the painting to China or something

>>720304374
the whole "your mom will always find the painting!!!1!!" part is kind of a cop out imo. there are plenty of ways they could hide that thing without her finding it, unless painters have some magical GPS feature but at that point the conversation should've never been about hiding it.

>>720298410
i fucking love petite woman bros ahhhhhhhh

>>720304494
>unless painters have some magical GPS feature but at that point the conversation should've never been about hiding it.
They probably do and only Alicia wanted to hide it, Alicia's a retard. Clea straight up said this only ends if it's destroyed and Renoir was in the process of trying to destroy it.

you just know the french wanted to go all out on incest but some cuck excel overlord forced them to stop

>>720286847
terminally brown post

>>720305050
>what are you doing, painted-bro?

>>720305050
>no processing payments for you, go to horny jail

>>720302691
Here's some AI slop.
You've seen the asset store assets if you've played the game. Most of the out of combat animations are straight from the store like for example the climbing animation and that zip to a point animation.

>>720305528
>Here's some AI slop.
Where is that in the game?
>You've seen the asset store assets if you've played the game.
Which ones? I was aware of the running/jumping animation, is there anything else?

>>720273375
You're a bitter and jaded contrarian.

>>720304494
But then the painting would have no painters, no gods

>>720304494
just put it on the floor face down and put a closet on top
aline is not getting in unless she hits the gym for a few months

>>720307347
canvases be magic n shiet. Also the bodies are outside of the canvas, you don't have to physically enter it, just be near it. So that may not even stop her. Aline probably has tard strength compared to Alicia and Clea, anything they can move she can probably deal with.

>>720307537
you know what youre right
shed get that adrenaline that makes grandmas lift cars and shit

>>720303204
i opened the thread to make that comment, i didnt think it'd be that near the bottom

>KCD2
Too long, pozzed
>Bananza
dunno. looks fun
>Silksong
Too hard for normies
>DS2
You heard anyone talk about it? Exactly
>E33
Captivating. Magnificent. Only pulled down by the dogshit third act balancing.

>>720308125
what are the odds

>>720255934
my first gf was 18 when I was 15, I'll never know what that feels like :(