Thread 720630560

>want to buy 1440p monitor
>literally hundreds of options with each brand having multiple models of the same panel with different buzzwords and rgb lights
why the fuck is the monitor market such a mess?

>>720630560 (OP)
There are only a handful of mega factories in China that supply panels to popular brands.
If you want to find a good monitor, filter by the current year and specs that you need:
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/display-finder

>Want to buy 4:3 monitor for retro gaming
>They don't make new ones anymore (except that checkmate overpriced one)

>>720630745
use masking tape

>>720630560 (OP)
You're looking for a Dell G2724D

>>720630745
that's why 16:9 was chosen as the HD consumer standard

4:3 fits reasonably on a 16:9 screen and vice versa.

>>720630560 (OP)
What's a good 1440p monitor with 24inch?

>>720630984
Yeah that's what I do but it's just not the same. I'm surprised no one (except that checkmate) made a CRT-lookalike IPS with shaders and shit. Or just regular 4:3 for retro stuff. Especially now when retro is huge and Win98 emulation is piss easy.

>>720630984
What's with 16:10?

>>720630745
ezio flexscan

>>720631096
Flea markets and thrift stores are full 4:3 screens for couple of bucks. Just go get 1 or 20. Who cares

The only 4 monitors worth buying this year

>>720631113
16:10 was popular as a productivity standard but all the big panel makers are TV focused so it was too hard or espensive to source panels.

>>720630703
>filter by the current year and specs that you need
>get +30 results
wooooow this made it soooo much easier

>>720631296
>sort price ascending

job done

>>720631215
16:10 was great if you worked in TV because you could fit the full 16:9 video and then have controls at the top and bottom.
Having used a 1920x1200 monitor for years before 1080p was a thing, I could never go back to such a low resolution. 1440p and up is fine though.

>>720631182
>27"

>>720631296
When you seek the best value product, you're also paying with your time.

>>720631182
why?

>>720631416
27 is the optimal size for a monitor
>>720631426
all mini-led monitors with hdr1000

Just get aw3423dwf, you can even try used ones.
Thank me later. It literally has everything you need.

>>720631457
luv me bloom

rtings says picrel is the best non oled gaming monitor in 2025
true or not?

>>720631536
has been resolved with modern LD algorithms, the AOC one doesn't have any blood at all

>>720631475
>aw3423dwf
Just wish it wasn't so faggy looking. Why can't Dell make a normal boring looking gaming monitor like they used to? I want a monitor that doesn't make people immediately think "MANCHILD ALERT!" when they walk into my home office.

>>720630745
>>720631096
>Want to buy a 4:3 monitor for retro gaming
>Go to local classifieds and get Dell for 10 Euro
It's just that easy.

>>720631632
>buying used
Ew.

>>720631475
>curved
>ultrawide
>le gaymer aesthetics

>>720631683
you're not buying a dildo, it's a monitor

>>720630560 (OP)
Anyone from Sweden that can recommend a good 1440p monitor around the 3000 SEK price range?

>>720631629
I mean it looks normal unless you look behind it and you can turn off backplate led too.

>>720631182
>chinks made 27" 1440p 180Hz monitor for something like 250 bucks
>won't ship to my country
I am a modern day Tantalus.

>>720631592
suuuuuuuure anon. Next you'll tell me VA smear is a solved issue.

>>720631790
>won't ship to my country
don't expect to see any mini-led monitors with 1000+ dimming zones in EU any time soon
>>720631810
yes, with HVA, it was solved years ago

>>720631582
>1440p
Not

>>720631882
>don't expect to see any mini-led monitors with 1000+ dimming zones in EU any time soon
Why? Any particular reason or just demoralization?

>>720631950
energy restrictions placed by the green party or some shit

>>720631950
EU banned them.

Hmmm if only there was a way to check and compare in person,damn what a mess indeed

>>720631937
everything above 1440p is a meme

>>720631997
I love this meme - it directly follows pricing trends of resolutions. I 'member when 1080p was considered a meme that the human eyes couldn't see.

>>720631582
>VA
Don't think so.

>>720631997
1440p oleds are garbage. You need more pixel density with oled or you'll get really bad color fringing on text.

>>720632058
enjoy your IPS glow

>>720631749
gigabyte gs27u på amazon för 3400

>>720630560 (OP)
you have to dyor

>>720632134
That's not a 1440p screen

>>720632062
Since >1440p is a meme that inherently proves what we already knew - oleds a meme tier tech unsuitable for vidya.

>>720631592
Absolute lie. I have that same AOC display and it looks like a bloomy mess on full brightness. Shills in a previous thread kept telling me I had not configured it properly when I know for a fact I have, it's just bloomy as shit when you use local dimming. miniLED is a fucking meme.
At least this monitor was free due to an amazon fuckup.

>>720632097
I would leave a snarky remark in a reply to you, but you would go blind from smearing while trying to scroll to read it anyway.

IPS glow is a solved issue.

>>720632245
skill issue, you didn't even bother calibrating it

waiting "patiently" for microLED

>>720631987
I have never seen an electronic store that puts monitors on display like that.
TVs, yes, but never monitors.
It's infuriating.

>>720632359
2 more years anon.

>>720632245
I remember you from the previous thread
No, you didn't have that monitor, you liar, you had the shitty 300+ zones one

>>720632338
Yes I fucking did.
Calibrated using the win11 HDR calibration tool that everyone told me to use, along with a million other alternative calibration options. Local dimming still looks fucking terrible.

>>720632407
What's is even the difference?
Previous thread told me the one I have is one of the best HDR displays on the market and blah blah blah, and it looks shit.

>>720632179
I know, it's better

>>720632470
>What's is even the difference?
Between having 300 and 1000 zones? Pretty big difference...

If you're buying a monitor in 2025 you might as well buy one with proper HDR support, and we're finally at the point where HDR screens are going down in price and becoming more affordable. I bought the AOC Q27G3XMN and I've been really happy with it

>>720631790
is this one better than aoc?

>>720632527
This is just further snake oil, isn't it?
Same as the people telling me that HDR1000 miniLED looks amazing, this monitor is amazing bro just look at rtings!!

>>720632470
You were crying about it being too bright and then refused to lower the brightness when everybody told you how to do so.

>>720632532
monitor hdr is weak on oleds so buy a 55" oled tv

>>720632587
I did lower the brightness, you fucking retard.
It was only acceptable with local dimming turned off, and I'm telling anon that local dimming looks awful.

Per-pixel control or bust.

>>720632573
you're getting bloom because the dimming zones are too big.
more dimming zones on the same size monitor would mean smaller zones, and therefor less bloom.

idiot.

>>720630560 (OP)
Because everything that's not a 4K QD-OLED is literal garbage for retarded poorfags.

>>720632626
>I did lower the brightness
No, you didn't, you said that you had already decided to return it. You didn't even try lmao

>>720630560 (OP)
Get a m27q

>DisplayHDR1000
>8 frame delay going from black to anything else
LMAO

>>720632657
pure snake oil
no professionals buy these dogshit HDR1000 minitors with LD as they look horrid and ruin display color consistency.
>>720632737
Blatant liar.
I said that local dimming looked bad regardless of the brightness settings, it only looked acceptable with HDR on but local dimming off.

>>720632775
have you ever considered that you aren't supposed to have LD On at all times?

>>720632775
>no professionals buy these dogshit HDR1000 minitors with LD as they look horrid and ruin display color consistency.
if you're so knowledgeable about that pros use, why did you fuck up and buy the shittier version of a decent monitor?

>>720632846
professionals don't use any HDR1000 displays at all.

>>720632904
then how do they optimize their content for the HDR1000 specification?

>>720632839
You shouldn't ever have it on

>>720632904
that doesn't answer my question.

>>720632963
They don't.
That's why so little HDR content exists, and the few that does is wildly inconsistent about it (especially in gaming)

>Want to get a new monitor with speakers
>Sort by Have Speakers
>Tons of monitors without speakers
>Ask on a forum if anyone has a monitor with speakers that people like
>UHHHR ANON WY EOULDN'T YOU JUST GET SPEAKERZZ??

>>720633004
Okay, I'll give you a chance here then.
Which monitor is the "good" version? and do you own one yourself to vouch for it being good?

>>720633072
literally just get speakers tho.

>>720633072
honestly build-in speakers in monitors are borderline unusable. They make TV speakers sound great by comparison. Try to find a monitor with audio out instead and hook up headphones or something, as you aren't going to get any luck finding one with usable speakers.

>>720633084
you tell me mr professional. you're the one who bought the shittier version, why did you do that?

>>720633171
It was cheap.
Hell, in the end I've got this for free.

>>720633072
How do you expect them to fit good speakers into a slim monitor design?

>>720633198
so you cheaped out and compromised on a shittier version, and now you're upset that it's shittier?
if it was free then why are you even mad? you got what you paid for.

>>720633198
>I've got this for free
>still returned it
lol?

>>720633302
I'm mad to see so many shills ITT claiming it's an amazing display, one of the best available, etc., and having the fucking cheek to claim I haven't configured it properly when I've tried every possible configuration by this point. Local dimming just looks horrific, it's terrible technology. I find the practicality of HDR1000 questionnable as well but some properly-calibrated HDR videos did look decent on this thing, I'll give it that. Maybe I'll download some HDR movies.
>>720633350
I didn't return it, I was going to but I didn't need to in the end and got a full refund due to a "shipping error" in spite of already having the item.

>>720633484
>I'm mad to see so many shills ITT claiming it's an amazing display, one of the best available, etc.,
they're not though.
you bought the shittier version of the one they're promoting and acting like somehow you're not in the wrong here.

>>720633616
see >>720633302

>>720633616
see >>720633084

>>720633639
thanks, me. that is in fact my point.

>>720633084
AOC Q27G40XMN

>>720633484
>va miniled
va smear, dimming algo and the lag varies widly from monitor to monitor how well they have implemented it, inconsistent, probably looks like ass in windows

>comparing 300-1000 zones to 8+ million zones LMAO

top 50 reason of why I would not

>>720633739
Can't even buy that over here. Fantastic.

>>720633806
AOC Q27G41XMN then. Same exact monitor.

>>720633857
isn't sold in this country either.
Where are these available at? US only?

>>720633897
Are you EU?

>>720630560 (OP)
They're literally the same 1-2 LG or Samshit panels

Just buy the cheapest 1440p, IPS and how many jiggahertz you might ever need (although anything above 240hz is a meme and most games don't support 360hz)

>>720633926
Yes (UK)
Neither of those models are sold here, I can't find a single retailer stocking them.

>>720633120
>>720633145
>>720633207
You're a bunch of little fag enablers.

>>720630560 (OP)
I have two 1080p monitor on an arm attached to my desk and I'd like to switch to a single wide 3440 or so monitor to save space and because I like the look
Nonetheless it's a steep investment and I'm not sure I'd like it better than having two screens at once, not even talking about vidya compatilbity
Is this a meme? Should I do it?

Pic related is the kind of setup I'd like to have when I move apartment in 2026

>>720634045
you're the one being a fag though.
we're telling you to stop being a fag.

>>720633982
They don't sell good Mini-LEDs in the EU (and UK) due to energy efficiency standards.

>>720634112
That's retarded but I believe it.
The new standards are stupid as fuck

>>720634045
just be normal and buy a good pair of headphones retard
you never had and will never have good speakers with less than 10 watts of power draw

>>720634070
>Pic related is the kind of setup I'd like to have when I move apartment in 2026
The funko pops and keebs on the wall are ESSENTIAL.

>>720634070
I'm either going for an ultrawide or going back to 4:3
fuck it

>>720634045
I don't know what else to tell you.
I wish there were monitors with usable speakers in the current market, but all the manufacturers are clowns.

>>720634202
>"good" headphones
>doesn't come with a mic
lol, lmao even

>>720630560 (OP)
>monitor
Buy a tv like a real gamer

>>720634369
Which TV?

>>720634254
yeah whatever fag I'll make it nongay enough but you know what I mean

>>720634262
buy a 55" oled tv, unironically

>>720634202
peak retardation thinking headphones and speakers are the same use case

only agreed for competitive gaming

>>720634070
just buy 4k

>>720633965
you will keep moving the goalpost as the years go by
>nobody needs 1000hz you are fine with 480hz

>>720634486
>oled
>for PC
Bad idea, you'd get taskbar burn-in

>>720631182
>>720631457
unless I'm missing something, the Philips one only appears to be HDR400 display.
Both the AOCs aren't sold anywhere in Europe
So that leaves only the MSI, I guess?
Weird recs.

>>720633072
My monitor has speakers and I agree that some dogshit goodwill speakers would be an improvement.
But I'm also too lazy to go and get some since the monitor has speakers, so there is that.

>>720634386
From rich fag to poor fag
Samsung S95F 55-77"
LG G5 55-83"
Samsung S90D 55-77" (USA) 65" (EU ONLY)
LG C4 42"-83" (IDEALLY 55"+) - S90D 42/48" USA alternative for better game mode brightness/motion interpolation

this is THE official power ranking of GAMING TVs take it or leave it

>>720630560 (OP)
Buy a 240hz oled

>>720634706
>GAMING TVs
lol
leave it

>>720634706
>70"+ on your desktop
this is insanity, how far back do you sit anon?

As an AC/DC and maserati (not the car) fan I can only accept oled.

>>720634539
stop being poor

>>720634773
oled saved large format gaming

>>720634776
I don't
never said on desktop though
at that point you probably need 2m+
depends on (You)r preference

>>720634886
>stop being poor
I have the money, but I also have common sense anon.

>>720634952
If you don't have enough money to throw out common sense, you're poor.

>>720634952
if you had common sense you would realize life is finite and electronics are decaying also

>>720635009
oled decays more than is reasonable to use for a computer monitor.

>>720635108
that is your opinion, yes

>>720635267
yes. the correct opinion to have.

>>720634986
people with money usually have it because they don't piss it away on stupid investments.

>>720635340
>aligning with poverty is the correct opinion
oled is kind of useless to use as a productivity display (aside from a large 4k display), you don't need it for spread sheets
it's for media or gaming
but being poor is not even a consideration, pricing is not a factor anymore
what is the point in entertaining poor people anyway

I want to fall for the wireless headset meme.
Feels like there's no winning here though.

>>720635592
as a TV it's fine, unless you're one of those weirdos who leaves the news on all day in the background.
as a monitor you're going to get the taskbar burned in.

>>720635541
They have business sense, and it is a different thing.

We solved this years ago - a 24" 1080p VA panel is where human visual acuity stops. 4k, 120hz+, HDR etc are all marketing memes meant to confuse people into consooming.

Anyone using XIAOMI G Pro 27i here?
Is it true that whites have red tint that can't be fixed?

>>720631987
>uh, can you guys turn the lights off so I can check for bleeding?

As a horror game enjoyer oled is the only real answer for my needs. Alien isolation is sublime.

Why are there no OLED VR headsets?

>>720636376
VRR flicker would be seizure inducing at vr headset viewing distances.

>>720636376
there are. generally not needed though because the eye cup makes it pitch black in the viewing area anyway.

>>720636376
Original VIVE, Quest 1, and you can still get one if you're willing to drop $1k+ on the headset alone

Just ordered my first curved monitor; VG34VQL3A. Seems to be pretty much everything I was looking for by the stats.
Still in the mail but pretty happy to get it for 200€, one of the last ones remaining in the discount sale.

>>720636376
isn't the psvr2 oled?

>>720636847
shame you have to jump through multiple hoops to set it up on PC

MSI G274QPX or Asus XG27ACS?

>>720631120
so sad the 1:1 screen will never be made again

So what makes it a "gaming" monitor?

>>720636925
How well does it work though?

>>720637313
afaik you still can't use foveated rendering / eye tracking on PC with it

>>720637384
Sony drops everything and ports it to PC, yet still holds on to their shitty psvr that no one buys

>>720637265
Usually high refresh rates. Not that it means said panel can actually keep up mind you.

>>720637936
It's not like anyone on /v/ could actually tell the difference.

>>720638167
You absolutely can see the difference. See also: why the switcxh 2 screen is seen as blurry by many. It may do 120hz but the actual pixel response time is more in line with what you would expect running at 30fps.

>>720638314
I always here that from people that have never bought a Switch 2, funny.

is 4k @ 27" a waste ?

27" is already borderline too big for me so I dont want 32"

>>720638507
Not really. It is sharper than a 32" screen and if that is all the space you have for then so be it.

>t. went from 27" 4k IPS to 32" 4k oled

>>720638591
do you use DLSS in pretty much everything now?

there should have been a decent hit in FPS if not

>>720638745
Well i'm rocking a 7900xtx so my use of upscaling in general is limited. Games either run lighting fast or run so bad even a 5090 struggles with little in between these days.

>>720638892
I guess playing games @ 1440p on the 32" 4k is not an option because of scaling.

technically wouldnt 1080p look better if it was integer scaled ?

>>720639028
>technically wouldnt 1080p look better if it was integer scaled ?
Yes, which is why 4K at anything larger than 24" is garbage and 27" monitors should be 5K and 32" monitors should be 6K.

>>720639028
>I guess playing games @ 1440p on the 32" 4k is not an option because of scaling.
That isn't ideal but use a fine use for fsr/dlss (i.e use quality mode).

>technically wouldnt 1080p look better if it was integer scaled ?
If you aren't using the likes of dlss or fsr yes. Handy for me AMD has a proper integer scaling option in their drivers so for old games where the UI becomes tiny setting 1080p and scaling too 4k is nice.

>>720639147
based 19" 1080p user.

>>720630560 (OP)
I can barely find information about 1440p 32" monitors. I want to buy one of those, but I don't want HDR and 380Hz meme features, just a really good screen and that's it.

>>720639274
>really good screen
>without HDR
well those don't exist for a start

Do you guys think LC27G7xT is a good gaming monitor? I got it a while back, and well, I don't really know how to judge these things. Sometimes I'm bothered by banding I can see in some games when it comes to light coming from various sources.

>>720630560 (OP)
https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-271qrx-qd-oled-27-wqhd-360-hz/p/N82E16824475359?Item=N82E16824475359
Here you go. I bought this one earlier this year and it's pretty much the best 1440p monitor you can buy for gaming. I can't even begin to explain how good things look at 360hz on it. Yes, it makes a big difference.

>>720631632
>Europoor
LMAO

>>720639437
QD-OLED
>bit of light touches monitor
>it turns purple
heh

>>720632306
It literally is not and never will be, meanwhile VAs are getting faster and faster every iteration.
>inb4 muh ips black
>inb4 muh ATW

>>720639631
>just enjoy vaseline smear bro

>>720639356
Yes they do. I don't need it to be fucking OLED level, just whatever normal IPS can do. Muh HDR with IPS looks so atrocious it's insane people are unironically falling for the scam.

>>720639597
Are you one of those retards that has their PC set up in a room with natural light hitting it and no curtains or blinds to draw? I can't imagine setting my PC up somewhere like that.

1440p on a 27" 4k shouldnt look that bad right

>>720635645
you never tested it yourself also

>>720639028
>technically wouldnt 1080p look better if it was integer scaled ?
it will still be 1080p
native memes are dead
you people are living in the year 1998
stop using vintage thinking on modern tech

>>720639147
>Yes, which is why 4K at anything larger than 24" is garbage
distance to monitor

>7" monitors should be 5K and 32" monitors should be 6K.
I don't disagree but ppd again

>>720639263
>SimCity 3000
SOVL

>>720639274
no point in not buying 4k at that point

>>720639437
you can buy the 500hz variants now that are also brighter
plus I can't cosign MSI oled monitors at this current point in time

>>720639597
you didn't test it yourself

>>720639631
>meanwhile VAs are getting faster and faster every iteration.
they are not, they are doa unredeemable tech
move on
you will never solve va, it's inherent in the tech

>>720639597
WOLED is inferior.

>>720639729
> Muh HDR with IPS looks so atrocious
'cuz because anything not oled or maybe miniLED can't do hdr so you get stuck with a colour space dating to the 60's.

>>720631182
>27
there is literally no reason not to get 32 and up unless you're a desklet.

>>720639808
>plus I can't cosign MSI oled monitors at this current point in time
What?

>>720639772
depends on what scaling is used
it will be near irrelevant though considering ppi and 2.2x as many pixels as 1440p
for all intent purposes you should literally not care

>>720630560 (OP)
You can get OLED visuals on a TN panel. Don't fall for the meme.
Also if you need higher perceived fidelity, apply some sharpening. There are diminishing returns in resolution bumps past 800p.

>>720639808
>no point in not buying 4k at that point
Another marketing scam. You can drive 1440p at 32" with native-resolution content and everything will look just fine. For 4k, you need software scaling. A bunch of programs are not compatible with that. It's a can of worms you don't want to open if you don't have to.

>>720639960
MSI oled care is abhorrent and directly anti consumer and should not be a thing
for that reason I cannot support them

>>720640018
oh god are we back to retards destroying their images with massive gamma again? lmao bring back the good days of ENB.

>>720639960
plus they cost a fuck ton and don't even put any cables in the box to fuck with you one step extra if you want even more reasons
absolutely semitic behavior

>choose monitor
>have to check if GPU display output is up to spec and make sure the cables are too

Are mini leds usable yuet without hallowing around objects on dark scenes?

>>720640185
what kind of a brick doesn't support dp 1.4 these days

>>720640052
Oh, you're a demented autist. You should start threads that way in the future so people know to ignore you.

>>720640141
>and don't even put any cables in the box
Mine did. You're objectively wrong. There's no argument here and I don't care what you read about on reddit.

>>720639932
All 32-inch monitors suffer from low ppi
27 is the golden ratio of the monitors

>>720640128
t. olednigger defaulticcprofilenigger defaultHSBnigger enjoyerofgraycolorsnigger

>>720640281
nah shit is too small.

>https://www.webhallen.com/se/product/378345-AOC-CQ27G4X-27-VA-2560-x-1440-180-Hz-0-5ms-2xHDMI-DP-Adaptive-Sync
>https://www.webhallen.com/se/product/372433-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-VG27AQ3A-27-IPS-2560-x-1440-180-Hz-1ms-2xHDMI-DP
Which one /v/?

>>720640350
So yes, you have no idea what you are talking about, thanks for confirming.

>>720640281
96ppi is the maximum you need.

>>720640461
the va will ghost and the rtings review shows the ips will ghost too

this is why i dont shop for monitors. niggers say they are "affordable" but they are all shit unless you spend as much as you did in 2014

>>720640461
they both suck tbqh

>>720638507
Yeah. At that size, sat half a meter away, the pixel density between 4k and 1440p cannot be distinguished. 4k makes more sense for screens larger than 32"

>>720640635
>>720640723
I should have known better than ask here, same shit as when people ask for advice on Reddit and everyone goes.
>"uhmmm actually this 100 dollar thing is not as good as this 1000 dollar thing, you should get that instead!"

>>720640018
>here are diminishing returns in resolution bumps past 800p.
give me the number to your fentanyl dealer

>>720640019
>You can drive 1440p at 32" with native-resolution content and everything will look just fine. For 4k, you need software scaling. A bunch of programs are not compatible with that.
all irrelevant points

>>720640247
>Oh, you're a demented autist.
no, it's a legitimate problem, enough so MSI had to back track and insert a fix to solve their own incompetence which was to increase the mandatory pixel refresh to 24 hours instead of 16h
oleds have bad firmware implementation and everyone just went up and made them even worse for no reason
and it's still not fixed
depending on the severity and how buggy it is, it might still be a problem or not
you know the thing where a pixel refresh ruins your competitive match in the middle of everything due to a forced restart
you know the thing that does not allow you to use your product how you want?
still no pixel shift off function
the worst thing of all this is that it's not needed and simply a thing to decrease msi returns due to warranty
it's dog shit, I am not sucking the MSI cock, they don't pay me

>Mine did. You're objectively wrong
check the contents of the 321urx and the 322 or rtings and compared to asus oleds
they fucking cost close to the same in eu, where are the fucking cables
only the most expensive one they start putting some more shit in the box
like holy fuck
this is not even a major complaint, just adding more fuel to the fire however

>>720640790
That's an objectively correct fact 90% of the time, so it makes sense they say that wherever you go.

>>720640974
Not when you ask "Which on of these two is better" and you have retards go "uhmm.... buy this super overpriced BRAND stuff instead!"

>>720640790
They're idiots that never own the top-end devices themselves

>>720632701
>qd-oled
>not white oled
I hope you like the color purple

>>720640247
>Mine did.
and since I realize I am speaking with actual autists here with no ability to read between the lines, when I mean no cables, I don't mean they ship it without a power cable and a fucking dp only
I mean they don't include basic shit like usb-c and extra cables which the monitors supports
it's genuinely exhausting dealing with people who you have to walk through every single thing for people to understand what you mean, every single time

then after this fact I have to battle you people who have post purchase rationalization

having to battle the zealots of companies for no reason

every time

I game on a lg c2

>>720641240
Sure, but when presented with options that suck, it's better to splurge on something that will last a lot longer, especially for something like this, than settle for cheap.

>>720640814
>you know the thing where a pixel refresh ruins your competitive match in the middle of everything due to a forced restart
No, because I'm not a fucking retard who can't figure out how to count to 16. I run pixel refresh every 4 or 5 hours during the day while I'm going work, watching stuff or playing singleplayer games while I'm eating or doing dishes or whatever, and then I make sure to run it before I hop on to whatever multiplayer game I'm playing with my friends so it's not an issue.
>check the contents of the 321urx and the 322
They come with a display port cable. You said they don't come with cables. You're wrong, and there's nothing to argue about.

>>720641489
NTA but high-end displays don't last as long, they are less durable on average.

>>720641379
>I mean they don't include basic shit like usb-c and extra cables which the monitors supports
>uh, let me move the goalposts and pretend that it not including a fucking USB-c is a bad thing
You're a retarded autist and you should feel bad for being so fucking stupid. Literally not a single person alive talks about "the cables a monitor comes with" and refers to a USB instead of a DP or HDMI2.1 cable. You being a retarded autist who needs to backpedal isn't a case of reading between the lines, it's just you being an idiot.

>>720641489
Anon, not everyone cares to pay 2-3x times as much for a tiny difference that most people won't even notice unless they really pay attention to it.
And the expensive stuff are way less durable.

>>720641685
Doesn't change anything I said, still shouldn't go for trash to save money when you could spend the cash to get something good that will last you several decades instead.

>>720641846
OLEDs don't last several decades, that's the poimt.

>>720641846
>several decades instead.
>oled
>decades
lmao. even the latest gen of oled monitors have issues.

>>720641910
>>720641823
You're getting too hung up on me saying to spend money, when the bottom line is your picks were not good, and you should keep looking instead of settling for them.
If that means spending a bit more, you should.

what's the best screen type that isn't oled
i don't want burn in

>>720642010
Then fucking recommend something else in the pricerange instead of derailing the entire question and LARPing as some technical rich boy.

>>720635808
>VA

>>720642134
Nigger I told your ass why you were an idiot in a way that wouldn't booty blast you so the least you can do is more research yourself

>>720642260
Here's a last (You) for (You)

>>720642292
I'll take it, learn some numbers and when someone tells you your pick is trash, listen and shop around with similar items instead of being a bitch

>>720630745
I think you can find a portable monitor that does 4:3

>>720642019
MiniLED I guess.

>>720641846
>>720642010
>>720642359
Why did you even chime in?
You had nothing valuable to say.
>>720641257 is right.

>>720642441
An extra (You) is fine by me

>I was just trolling!
pathetic

thoughts?

>>720642019
microLED
self-emissive quantum dot

neither are truly consumer level yet though

>>720632701
The 42 inch C5 is significantly better than any QD-OLED monitor and cheaper.

>>720642668
>consumer microLED
10 more years, bro.

I got a 9800X3D this year for 1440p gaming but now I want a 4k display.

what a waste.

>>720642878
>4k 240hz
nice larp, pajeet

>>720642878
>4k 240hz
literally how

whatever happened to Nvidia's Big Fucking Display program anyway

we were supposed to get high-end TV panels without all the TV bloat.

>>720642882
>implying your CPU matters in a display
KWAB

>>720632058
>>720632097
but it says it's mini led

27" 4k PPI: 163
32" 4k PPI: 137

how can you not notice almost 26 more PPI if the display is 12-15" away from your face ?

if im playing PvP slop I usually site a bit closer and if im playing SP games I usually sit a bit back

I have an AW3225QF. I will not need to upgrade for a long time.

>>720632701
>QD-OLED
>not WOLED
lol, faggot

>>720642878
240 FPS ( with frame gen)

>>720642954
lol, lmao
>>720642982
...I have a 4k 240hz screen and shockingly am not playing borderlands 4.

>>720643210
>curved

what was it like when first looking at it? how long did it take to get used to it?

I think curved might be the only way I could use a 32" or bigger

>>720643384
The curve is extremely minor. It's not like a Samsung G9.

>>720643210
>>720643307
>HDR400
why

>>720632294
Poorfag cope
Outside of the oled comment the rest was fact though, for monitors at least

>>720643307
You aren't getting anywhere close to 240 fps unless you're playing 2d indie slop

>>720643307
>my monitor is 4k 240hz therefore I'm playing at 4k 240hz
Room temperature iq.

>>720643728
I am sat right in front of it. Do I really need HDR1000 to blind me?

>>720643307
SAAR

>>720643728
It isn't HDR400, it is Trueblack 400 which is a vastly higher spec.

>>720643962
Yes.

>>720643732
enjoy your burn-in, pixel-shifting, and 15 minute long optimization cycles every 2 hours
and make sure you don't use it at over 50% brightness

>niggas will buy a $1000 OLED to play games like >>720644128
can't make this shit up

>>720644128
Based, playing older games on overkill hardware is peak comfy.

>>720644180
Cope
Look up the CNET oled ad abuse tests
They run this shit for years and even that only does minor damage to the monitors. Notice that only oled gets tested like that, other monitor techs might not even last that long before spontaneous failure.
You aren't using the same monitor for 10+ years are you anon?

>>720644215
They get 1000fps, $1 for every frame and they've basically gotten their money back.

>>720643210
>>720643728
I'm not this guy, even though we have the same monitor >>720643307

>>720630560 (OP)
just buy a 4k 60hz tv and play with a controller

>>720643210
>>720644425
>alienware
lol
lmao

>>720644215
feels good man

>>720644352
>You aren't using the same monitor for 10+ years are you anon?
I'm not a consoomer pigger, so yes, I do want my $800 monitor to last for at least 5 years.
>They run this shit for years and even that only does minor damage to the monitors
more like months, of general use for 8 hours a day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whuHuM9h88M

Finally upgraded to 4k from 1440p and man the difference is staggering, can never go back to 1440p ever again.

>>720644521
It's a monitor, not prebuit PC or gaming laptop.

>>720644629
This saaar! I boughted new Nvidia™ GPU to use 4k very worth saar please redeem!

>>720644610
getting old games like that to even run 1080p widescreen is already a pain in the ass sometimes let alone 4k

>>720644625
>needs to last 5 years
I've been using my oled TV for 5 years coming up soon with thousands of hours and no perceptible burn in.
5 years is a far cry from 10 nice try nigger
>shows incredibly minor burn in
Yeah that's what I said

>>720644778
>incredibly minor burn in
ok blind retard

>>720635639
i like wireless, have had no issue. always fun pissing in the toilet with open mic

>retard that argue you should spend 5x times as much money on screens because of minor difference nobody can tell is the same person that says having a screen being burnt in is not noticeable
I'm starting to think this retard is arguing for the sake of arguing.

>>720644951
Why are you so butthurt

>>720644951
>nobody can tell
So we are blind to the obvious differences but notice burn in at 100 yards, ok bro

>>720644610
never vorget
https://youtu.be/XShpedNGEbo?t=286

>>720644764
Sometimes I even render them at 8k.

>>720644749
Not every post saying they like something is a poojeet marketer you poor faggot, even for just image quality and screen space a 4k monitor is worth it even if your GTX 1060 can't play games on it. I don't buy njeetia gpus BTW, horrible jeet and AI coded drivers and generally insanely low quality unless you spend over 800 bucks on one.

>>720645058
The hawk-eyed poorfag can spot a scam reliably up to a distance of 200 paces.

>>720642878
For me, it's older games on an OLED at 1440p/360hz. It's so fucking smoother and colorful and everything is so readable and responsive.

I've been tempted to buy the 16:18 LG DualUp. Has anyone ever tried this thing out?

>>720644215
I spent $750 on a monitor and $1000 on a gpu and this is what I've been playing recently.

>>720644868
>always fun pissing in the toilet with open mic
this is specifically what I want it for I just worry about quality of the mic and headphones.

>>720644625
Have you watched the video you linked? I've been following that test since the start. He turns off compensation cycles as much as possible, leaves taskbar on, and has multiple productivity windows running for 8+ hours each day. He's literally doing a worst case test and even then the burn in was only visible with a filter to enhance it for like 15 months.

>>720645368
> colorful
I hope you are clamping to srgb.

>>720645584
>>720644868
I always ask my friends who's ready for fried chicken before I start because that's what it sounds like.

>>720645590
>he's using it like a normal PC monitor
yeah that's exactly my point anon

>>720630812
kek

>>720631113
it was an ideal but they wanted to skimp on pixels and shrunk it

>>720646063
>yeah that's exactly my point anon
That using it for productivity and refusing to run compensations cycles or hide a taskbar might give you noticeable burn in after a few years on a monitor that comes with a 3 year warranty anyways?

>>720641307
>>720643287
>literal normgroids sitting in a bright room
bet you use white theme too

>>720646710
Well you're not going to risk a black one while relaxing are you?

>>720639932
My 27-inch monitor already regularly makes me annoyed with its size despite me using it for years now. A 32-inch one would be hellish.

>oled screen
>speed holes mouse
>hall effect keyboard
>hall effect controller
>planar magnetic headphones
>external amp & dac
>desk mat
Yup, it is gaming time.

>>720646452
I don't want to babysit my monitor

>>720647715
>hall effect controller
it's TMR now, but hall is pretty good too

>>720647715
>desk mat
glass mouse pads are better

>>720647750
>babysit
I just went to put some laundry in my washer. I ran the OLED care cycle while I did it. That's it. 4 button pushes is all it took.

>>720631749
ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ3A tusen kronor rea hos webhallen just nu, dock är webhallen skit nu för tiden har väntat 10 dagar nu på leverans.

>>720634070
Ultrawides are cheap unless you're going high end. I got one but I still use 2 other monitors on top of it.

>update nvidia drivers
>DSR option is now gone
>cant downsample games from 4k anymore

>>720648242
Webhallen brukade vara så jävla bra, had allt möljigt man kunde handla också... massor av niche grejer.

>>720648046
glass? who gives a shit about glass!?

>>720630560 (OP)
>paying for an unnecessary extra 390p

Can anybody from Serbia rec some monitors ? Like preferably not above 150euros (if it is less then good) i really need new monitor since my old 2nd monitor fucking died (i had it since i was like 13 (24byw)) and my current monitor is cool i guess but it could be better MUCH BETTER. (also i fucking miss having 2monitors)

>>720648317
>buying nvidia at all
Your first mistake
>updating their jeet drivers
Your second mistake

The real redpill is that there's only 1-2 good panels on the market at any one time, and all the different brands just slap their own proprietary brand of meme features on top of it, just like preinstalled bloatware on a laptop. Shop by panel and just see which brand fucked it up the least.

>finally narrow down a new monitor
>it has a matte oil coating on it

Rate
I got this a year ago

>>720648912
I also can import shit from germany since i have relatives there. (idk if any of these are good)

>>720641417
the last LG without dithering lines

>>720641576
>They come with a display port cable. You said they don't come with cables. You're wrong, and there's nothing to argue about.
they are cheap bastards
already explained my reasoning

>No, because I'm not a fucking retard who can't figure out how to count to 16.
good for you, the problem comes in when the firmware itself is inherently buggy, I know how shit it is on other monitors and I will not deal with these implementations again, not only because they are not needed and only implemented like this to save MSI's ass

the problem comes in when the counter keeps running even when monitor is idle or sleep and does not reset or if the monitor does not run a pixel refresh when sleeping either, again, not sure how it works with all these msi monitors because I will never know because I already experienced it on other monitors that have the same behaviors

I'd rather buy some one with better implementation than this

as such I cannot recommend MSI until they fix this shit

it's already a solved problem

>>720641736
Wrong, retard.
The monitor is advertised with KVM capability and shipped with USB-C connection and they ship the shit without the fucking cable, among other things.

again, I don't even fucking care, Fix the fucking monitors first. It just adds to the fire on MSI being shit.

If pricing is the same you buy Asus every single time in comparison, MSI is DOA

Fix the fucking shit.

Get the MSI corpo cock out of your mouth, NOW

>>720649550
>reddit spacing
didn't reed

>>720649550
You're a retarded pseud redditor. No one cares about your delusions of being a well informed consumer.

>>720649438
its old but decent.

hope you didnt over pay though, theres def better options.

>>720649593
>just download more colour
One simple trick that monitor manufacturers DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW

>>720649593
I play hunt showdown like that.

How much of a performance drain is 1440p vs 1080p?

I'm hesitating making the upgrade because I want 144+hz fps

Should you do 27 or 32 inch, curve or flat?

>>720648912
>>720649536
Not from Serbia or Germany, but if you can get your hands on an Acer P223W, I'd recommend it. Had mine for about 20 years at this point and it's still chugging along no problem.

what do you think of the alienware AW2725D ?

280hz QD-OLED 27" 1440p.

I currently have a 280hz* (OC) alienware and its been good but I kind of want to experience oled.

maybe if im gonna spend $800 I may as well spend $200 more and try to get a 32" 4K? but then I know I wont be getting anywhere near 200 FPS anymore for anything newish with a 4080 at 4k and 1440p is gonna look like shit at 32"

older games from ~2015 and earlier maybe I could get 144 FPS

>>720647715
>not TMR keyboard and planar IEMs

>>720649438
I like mine for the most part. But Fuck LG for their garbage displayport implementation. No my second monitor being turned off donsn't mean it's disconnected, and now everything on it is randomly moved to the other screen.

>>720630560 (OP)
It's because
1. Manufacturers straight up lie about monitor specs or use deceptive language
2. general consumer ignorance

Upgrading monitor's. Lol. What are you stupid?

>>720630560 (OP)
Most of them are shit. 99 % don't even have DP 2.1.

>>720645636
>srgb clamping
>please think of the creators intent
>run srgb at 120 nits please sir
>filmmaker mode for maximum desaturation
nah, we aint doin that

>>720649981
>IEMs
FOR REAL THE NEW DROP X COOMER IEMS ARE ENDGAME SOUND FOR REAL THIS TIME.

>>720650165
>shove anti-soul gas into every game
>all so they can sell you "DIGITAL HDR TRUEBLACK PREMIUM+ ICC MAGNUM" to bring the contrast back
It's all so tiresome

>>720650198
Based tomato face enjoyer.

>>720647715
I lucked out and fucking hate most linear switches, so hall effect and TMR keyboards hold no interest for me at all.

>>720643000
OLED TVs came and saved you from that dog shit

>>720630560 (OP)
>low to mid gpu
>4k 60fps monitor
>upscale from 1080 to 4k
amazing.

>>720650178
For me its 10 bit DP 1.2 at 240Hz. The color compression helps focus on the picture in the middle as it washes the rest away.

>>720649661
Made a mistake, I actually got it in 2023 for $288
I think what sold me at the time was g-sync and wanting to stick with 144hz
I like it
>>720650087
>>No my second monitor being turned off donsn't mean it's disconnected
shit, I thought that was normal. I just keep my 2nd monitor on at all times now

>>720650087
god this makes me seethe

>>720649883
If you upgrade the display prepare to upgrade your GPU as well.
You will lose around 30% of FPS by jumping to 1440p.
I would not go beyond 27" with QHD. Avoid cheap VA monitors.

>>720650348
clickity clackity
coding on linux
kailh box navy blues
this doesn't rhyme

>>720649950
O nice i guess if no other suggestions come i will get that one.
My older was GLG but i forgot the name of the model.

>>720650495
I've been attached at the hip to a New Model F I bought for a disgusting amount of money, but on a Cherry MX styled board I'm usually a Boba U4T achiever.

>>720650087
just fucking win + p and project to the screen you're gaming on

>>720642742
you have diagonal dithering lines, worse color gamut, worse sdr brightness than a monitor, even further color desaturation and brightness loss in game optimizer, worse uniformity due to woled, worse text clarity due to ppi, you have worse refresh rates
you have higher hdr brightness, better coating for sure

the prices have not dropped yet, buy a C4 on stacked discounts or buy a better (larger) oled TV for even more benefits

I mean, maybe, I considered it over a monitor many times, not sure, it depends

>QD-OLED

AHAHAHAHAHHAHA

There's no better alternative to TN unless you are willing to drop at least 600 quid.
>vrr flicker
>ghosting
>gloss, reflections
>burn in
>factory oversharpening
Not an issue on TN.

>>720650343
maybe I'm cooked from running 100% vibrance on shit displays for too long
I want more saturation/brightness, as long as it does not clip, it's fine
the increase gamut compared to running vibrance is not as extreme, not even close, if you run standard settings
to get a real tomato effect I have to bump saturation by alot
yes I like my crackers sun burnt how could you tell

>>720650860
you never used the product

>>720651082
>you've never eaten shit so you have no right to say it is shit!
smartest anon ITT

>>720650959
the 600hz 1080p TN 24" benq zowie cost 2.1x as much as my 240hz 4k 32" qdoled
feels bad man I am too poor for premium TN

I never had any problem with TN for gaming this is. Cheap and quick

>>720630560 (OP)
personally, i would suggest a colour accurate display. something like asus pro art. avoid gaming brands like msi. and even then, avoid gaming models like asus ROG. you don't need a gaming monitor to have fast response times and freesync, many colour accurate monitors have these features too.

>>720635808
>the real world has visible pixels
Huh? Should I see an eye doctor? I can't see the pixels on anything outside.

>>720650860
>if you point a giant projector at it you can see a reflection
>do not buy!
We all know you're just mad that you got an OLED too early and have to hide your taskbar like a retard.

>>720651161
>regurgitate opinion from what my fav online eceleb told me
you never used the product, you have no opinion

They forced us to upgrade when we didn't need to.

Take the power back.

>>720651514
no one in eu can afford an energy bill running one of these

>>720651514
zoomers who glorify crts never used them
most people did not have actual good crts
the average crt was not that insane
I can tell a zoomer from a mile away

>>720651626
>people born 33 years ago are now zoomers
Huh? When did the definition change? I'll update Wikipedia so it can reflect your definition.

Is this all /v/ does? Nostalgiafag for their long forgotten childhood? Why are you your parents?

>>720651335
>many colour accurate monitors have these features too
such as?
seems like most those art/color focused monitors have less than 100hz refresh rate which is not ideal for gaming

>>720651514
>pc version
ewwwwwwwwwww

I think my monitor is retarded. Its supposed to be 1080p144hz, that's what the site said. But some games would just default to 1440p, and i just thought the games were just being dumb like when they put the resolution to 720p on their own, but then i realized that my in the settings, my resolution goes up not only to 1440, but to fucking 2036p. I have no idea why it goes beyond it's native resolution, I just know that when it does, it locks the refresh rate down to 75hz

>>720652124
Turn off VSR/DSR. That or the monitor's EDID is broken.

>>720651852
i use the PA278CGV which is 144hz. i think most modern colour accurate displays have 144hz options.

>>720652504
I'm 35 and I don't spend my time pining for days long gone.

>>720652642
What do you do

>>720631987
In reality:
>3 brands of monitor
>12 monitors on display
>not a single one of them is good
>20-40% markup vs ordering one online

Only utter retards walk into a best buy or some other electronics goyslop shop and buy what they have there.

>>720630745
the checkmate isn't even 4:3

>>720652678
I play videogames, listen to music and watch pro wrestling.

>>720632701
Got better things to spend my money on than a brand new $2,000 monitor every 6 months.

>>720652821
Only games and music released in the 2020's? I really hope you aren't watching modern wrestling, but that's that

>>720652821
>watch pro wrestling.
What you mean is you watch re-runs of attitude era wwf raw and sigh than the wrestlers these days just don't have the skill. You might also still be angry at the pandas, but that isn't a given.

>>720652227
I just did, and it did get rid of 2036p, but 1440p still appears as an option
I guess shit's broken

>>720652903
4k qds are $600 now and they don't burn like old oleds
2ks are even cheaper
stop being a redditor and try things yourself first

>>720653062
>>720653059
I haven't watched WWE TV regularly in about 10+ years. I watch other wrestling. I love stumbling upon new music the most.

>get 4k oled
>use it to play need for speed II from 1997
Worth every penny.

>>720651514
How did they force you to upgrade?

>>720653826
Secret police kicked in his door and stole his crt.

>>720652124
unfuck it with https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU by removing all the useless resolutions while keeping 1080p@144

if your monitor fucks up just plug it into another displayport

>>720650601
And that changes anything at all, how?

>>720653398
Playing Thief II myself. I've noticed that the older/simpler the game is, the better it looks on these panels.

>>720653826
removal of VGA ports on GPUs

>>720652246
>PA278CGV
how is it compared to an ips gaming monitor? is it really as responsive?

>>720640281
>All 32-inch monitors suffer from low ppi
yeah, if you fucking put your face in them
but that applies to everything

>>720654647
You know the UFO test, right? Well, on oled you don't see any smearing at all. Doesn't even matter if it's 'only' 120hz. That's how fast the panel is.

>>720630984

That image isn't entirely accurate about what a 55 inch CRT would be like because the closest thing was rear-projection TVs and those had weird angles/obvious edges. Also, they weighed hundreds of pounds.

>>720650587
If you haven't already, try asking on the PC building general over on >>>/g/

>>720640281
138ppi (32" 4K) is not low at all.

>>720654560
You know you switched to an LCD screen long before that happened

>>720630745
checkmate is 5:4 and is the same panel as on the newest Dell 19" IPS 5:4 monitors

check local thrift stores, garage/estate sales, or see if you have an e-waste recycling place in your area. I got a near perfect condition Dell 2007fpb for around $25 last year after 4 months of looking around for one.

gotta check locally because everything you'll find online is grossly inflated.

>>720654856
/pcbg/ doesn't know shit other than BUY NVIDIA, WHAT ARE YOU, AN AMD POOR!? GET THE FUCK OUT

>>720639808
>>720639727
I'm using a budget 180hz VA miniLED right now with an (subjectively) acceptable amount of black smear. I haven't come across a single IPS without some combination of glow, off axis silvering, backlight bleed, and mediocre contrast ratio. Literally 20+ IPS monitors ranging from $150 to $600 trialled. "It's inherent to the tech, bro!" Just like IPS white smearing, which IPS cultists never seem to mention. Enjoy those 900:1* contrast ratios, IPS bros.
*<500:1 in the corners with glow applied

>>720655409
Nvidia doesn't make monitors. Not that I know of, at least.

>>720655594
>IPS white smearing
what the fuck? overshoot due to too much overdrive or ips glow?
>off axis silvering
va has worst viewing angles and gamma shift too
>acceptable amount of black smear.
if you can cope with it sure

>"It's inherent to the tech, bro!"
it is, VA will never be solved

>IPS cultists
it's shit too, but it has less smear than va and better colors and viewing angles, if I were forced I guess I would take it

for now I'd buy oled instead

everything is shit, yes

>1440P
If you aren't wanting to go 4K, there are plenty of 1440P options.
>Size 27"-32"
If you're not going for an ultra wide or something, stick with this size range
>Panel type OLED, preferably the newest tech/models available for both WOLED and QD-OLED
Both versions have their own minor benefits and drawbacks, but you want to get the latest display tech. Generally, latest OLEDs have the all around best display for gaming, media , and most other usage
>BUT BUT WHAT ABOUT BURN IN
Unless you are a massive faggot and disable all the anti-burn tech, never turn the thing off, if its a panel made after 2020, you have little to worry about.
>Refesh rate - 120hz+, 240 is probably the modern sweet spot for high end
There are some 'dual mode' setups but that's normally 4K where it can run like 240hz at 4K and 480 at 1080p or something but unless you're playing something that really can make use of that, you're dealing with diminishing returns and besides on 1440 isn't much of an issue anyway. Get something that's 120, 144, or preferably 240 these days for a higher end OLED at 1440P and you'll be good
>VRR and HDR - you want FreeSync Premium Pro, Gsync HDR or both
VRR that operates at a wide framerate is important. With a high end OLED you're best set up for HDR because it doesn't need dimming zones like on IPS or other monitor technologies commonly available, you get better blacks etc.

So yeah there are options. I don't know many off the top of my head because i'm focused on 4K instead, but 1440P is accessible and cheaper now. Just be sure you buy the latest models in most cases as many older ones are still on sale and sometimes their panels and features aren't as good.

>>720656780
Which is why you shouldn't ask /g/.

>>720654764
you just sold it to me
I seriously hope I'm not getting memed

>>720657343
lmao

>>720655594
based VA chad

>>720657454
>ultra wide
good morning , reddit

>VA
>IPS
>OLED
Are these craft beer buzzwords or some shit?

>>720657709
today I learned cropping from 4k makes the display ultrawide. thanks anon

>>720657871
Yes, everyone knows FED is the only display type that matters.

>>720656786
nta but I have 2 VA monitors
one old 75hz and another new one 165hz
the old one has black smear and the new one doesn't
so maybe it was solved

>>720658519
you came from a super dogshit one to a less dogshit one
even the samsungs 240hz they claim as the savior of VA has the smear
even "good" budget current new 240hz VAs have smear
all have more smear than equivalent IPSs, which also have more smear than TNs, which are also slower than OLEDs
you might not be looking at certain scenarios or you just don't care
the fact remains if you pick blindy and choose a budget IPS you will be less fucked than if you do the same with a VA
always has been the fact
but whatever

>>720658730
well, if I don't really notice it, is it really a problem?
I switched to VA from IPS when I was playing L4D and noticed how bright everything was, even in the dark

>>720650382
>TVs
but they still have TV bloat
I don't want their shitty AI image processing or their garbage streaming app integration

great monitors don't exist
IPS has bad contrast ratio
VA has black smearing
OLED burns in
MINI LED has blooming

>>720658976
>well, if I don't really notice it, is it really a problem?
no ignorance is bliss
nobody that has motion clarity as their outmost priority would go with va either
>bright
it had higher brightness in pure nits?
>even in the dark
gamma settings?

I used a 60hz va on competitive fps games fine does not mean it's not smeary

>>720659056
game mode has no processing and no input lag
there is no bloat

>>720659218
TN won
it's over

>>720657454
now take the same picture with your phone

>>720659218
>OLED burns in
Not an issue anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whuHuM9h88M

>>720659309
I tried playing with gamma, but it was just washed out and then I got my first VA monitor and was impressed by how deep the black color was
I don't play multiplayer FPS so the motion clarity isn't a priority for me

>>720644215
and it's beautiful

>>720659309
>TN won
Worst panel type award yes.

>>720659309
>just navigate arcane menus to maybe turn some of the bloat off some of the time bro
i simply don't want it there in the first place. i will not pay money for any bloated tv.

>>720659720
>Not an issue anymore.
but that video proves you wrong...

>>720659720
>skip to the end
>"yeah i'm a little annoyed by the burn in after 2 years of use"
yeah not an issue anymore

>>720630984
i honestly hate that 16:9 became the standard since half the things i play are still 4:3. and widescreen stuff looks way better letterboxed on a 4:3 display than 4:3 stuff looks pillarboxed on a 16:9 display. it just sucks honestly

>>720630560 (OP)
I went to an online store, looked and bought the cheapest 2K IPS monitor for like $150. Its 100Hz. It displays stuff.
Unless you're a designer making logos for coffee shops you don't need muh color accuracy and other shit they use to convince you to spend 500 bucks

>Check 4k 32" OLED prices
>Still nearly 900€

>>720659854
You are an anon of refined taste, just like me.

>>720631629
i just turned off the rgb which makes it look like any other monitor minus the pretty minimal ALIENWARE lettering at the bottom

>>720660093
It's a niche technology for high-fidelity. OLED's also a really bad choice for things that display static images for long periods, like, uh, monitors. (Your taskbar or browser windows, etc.)

>>720659965
Maybe don't skip next time so you could see why his setup is deliberately retarded

>>720660031
I, too, consider gruel all you need.

>>720660173
why is his setup retarded?

>>720660093
Grabbed mine for $650 :^)
Feels good living right beside China and not being cucked by goycattle tariffs and sanctions.

>>720660170
I can see why this is an issue for /v/ given /v/ does not play games.

>>720660173
>he uses his pc for ~8 hours a day, doing some video editing and browsing the web
So he's just using it like a normal desktop monitor?

>>720660170
Why do redditors like to parrot each other so much?

>>720660549
turn on path tracing lil bro

>4chan says le oleds get burn in
>get oled
>enable hdr
>calibrate the windows sdr brightness slider to 150-200 nits with my color calibrator
2 years later and 0 burn in

>>720660093
on sale here in leaf land they are about $1,100.

still too much for me. maybe when they are $600 and by then the tech will be on its 5th generation or something and wont burn in as quick

>>720660491
Going to sleep after 2 hours is retarded
Light mode is retarded
Snapping apps in the same exact place is absolute subhuman activity
So yeah, pretty retarded overall

>>720660768
>200nits
>hdr
lol

>>720660768
>150-200 nits
that's not HDR lil bro.

>>720660721
I would never buy a 2K monitor unc

>>720660820
>>720660863
Based illiterate anons.

>All these OLED anons saying they don't have burn-in
>But nobody is posting any pictures
hmmmmmmm..........

>>720660794
Yea, I can wait. Maybe we will get BFI back, better subpixel layout will be great as well.

>>720660768
You need to specify it's qd-oled or some anon might actually buy an ancient tech that is oled.

>>720661010
Here's a picture of my OSD, which has like fifty options designed to mitigate burn-in as much as possible because it's an intrinsic part of the technology that can only be worked around and stalled, not defeated.

>>720657454
>>720657879
>till image
>screenshot
you idiot do realize that the ufo test is meant to test motion clarity, right?

IPS good all around and peace of mind > OLED "le true blacks" and burn in ocd, oh and of course 5x the price of ips

>got a 4070 Super last year
>realize I never updated my 1080p 144hz monitor with it
>go shopping for a new one
I didn't realize how annoying it is to figure out my own needs. I've been trying to figure out if I get 1440p or 4k for 2 weeks now.
Also OLED is everywhere and I wish it would fuck off.

>>720661183
>IPS good all around and peace of mind

>>720661183
I just grabbed an QD-OLED and I agree, unless you need instant response times or vivid colors you're better off grabbing a cheap $200 4K IPS.

>>720661342
delet this

>>720661250
>that GPU
1440p for sure. get a 160 or 180hz

>>720630560 (OP)
>go to costco
>buy the cheapest 1440 p monitor they have
Wow so fucking difficult. Avoid curved shit

>>720661342
>dont max out backlight
still noticible if you get a black screen but who cares and how often do you get black screens like this

>>720661398
He can play any game in 4K with DLSS4. 2K is for literal poorfags

>>720661342
skill issue
way more unlikely than burn in on oled while being 20% of the price of an oled scamonitor

>>720660820
>>720660863
i know you're both retards since you obviously cant read but its a specific slider you can use when hdr is enabled to set the brightness of S D R content.

all the retards that complain about burn in dont set this and then shit their pants when their panel runs at 1000 nits 24/7.

Good luck viewing this properly on an IPS screen.

>>720661512
>>720661603
That's just how bad IPS glow is
At least get a mini-LED if you're buying an IPS

>>720661601
1440p is not 2K

>>720661619
You shouldn't leave hdr enabled when viewing sdr content because lmao piecewise gamma.

>>720661601
>wanting to be at the mercy of DLSS

>>720661646
really they should just rename it to "normal LED" since the dimming zones can be measured in inches^2

i still have a 1080p ips 240hz monitor im living in the stone ages

>>720661632
looks good on my IPS
you get used not having perfect blacks desu

>>720661726
maybe if you have a shitty "hdr400" monitor that hasnt been calibrated properly. any hdr monitor worth a shit has good hdr->sdr tonemapping built in now and the ability to further adjust the tonemapping with proper calibration tools

>>720661870
No, that is a well known issue of windows. You will get the wrong gamma and thus raised blacks.

>>720661646
>mini LED
Oled but better, why are people still falling for the the big O scam? Is it because e-celebs?

>>720661942
oh baby

>>720662004
grim
why do people like to replace equipment every few years

Any recs for 24 inch 1440p monitors?

>>720631394
nice boat

>>720662140
zoomers have been conditioned to accept planned obsolence.

>>720661939
its literally not an issue unless you're trying to use hdr on a literal 10 year old version of windows 10. anything from the last 5 years and it might as well not be an issue. and even if you were using an ancient build of win10 then using a proper color calibrator that supports HDR/oled will render it actually unnoticeable to the human eye.

its also not even an omnipresent issue either. games almost universally use their own HDR pipelines that completely bypasses the issue, same with any competent media player like mpv.

>>720662392
luv me tape eating vhs

>>720662541
never happened to me, my cassette tapes got eaten but never vhs.

>>720662520
>games almost universally use their own HDR pipelines that completely bypasses the issue
The issue doesn't apply to HDR content at all.

https://github.com/dylanraga/win11hdr-srgb-to-gamma2.2-icm

>>720662721
NTA but why does this shit have to be so confusing?
HDR doesn't seem worth it.

>>720662721
fair enough but the point remains that its basically a non issue if you properly calibrate your 1000 dollar monitor

>>720663079
people like you are why pc gaming is so shit now

>>720663189
How is it my fault that HDR implementation is such an inconsistent mess?

>>720662721
This ruins the HDR implementation in Windows and crushes colors
You're supposed to use this if you want more contrast https://github.com/ledoge/dwm_eotf
>>720663079
It's not complicated, you set it up once using the official Windows 11 app, and that's it.

>>720663294
Then why does SDR content always look bad with HDR enabled?

>>720661860
>15/100 brightness at 400nit peak IPS
>Still too bright at night
I'm considering wearing shades.

>look up mini LED monitors to scope out the price
>1k+
Thanks but no thanks.

>>720663359
Because Windows uses Rec. 2020 and tries to display a wide range of colors, that's why SDR may look washed out.
The benefit is that you'll see more detail in shadow.

>>720661342
>why yes I do stare at all black screens
retard, this is not an argument

>>720663686
cope and seethe IPS glowie

>>720663359
'cuz you are used to 120% srgb sdr screens that you never clamp so the oversaturation is now seen as the norm. Enabling HDR will correctly clamp to 100% srgb and you now realise just how little colour the srgb gamut covers.

>>720661632
I genuinely don't understand what you think you're gaining with this. It's just a guy in a dark room.

>>720662721
>>720663294
>>720663359
>>720663624
>>720663745
How is HDR this inconsistent and so much of a PITA to set up when SDR is piss easy and basically plug and play? Whoever invented HDR fucked up bad, ease of use is KING in consumer products and always will be. I can get better results with an old-ass CCFL-backlit TN panel with a few minutes of basic config than most HDRbros can faffing around with their shit for multiple days. Absolutely nuts.

>>720663984
true

>>720663984
>How is HDR this inconsistent and so much of a PITA to set up
mainly because there's one actual HDR standard and then a bunch of marketing horseshit made up by tv makers because they want to put HDR on the box.

>>720663984
Because it's new and there's no agreed-upon standard that everyone can use.
So some input from the user is required.

>>720630984
I want to know why so many TV shows made for cable/streaming/etc use narrower aspect ratios than 16:9. It makes sense for movies, since they're designed for film projectors in theaters. But when it's something designed to be viewed on a TV, which has a standard aspect ratio of 16:9, it absolutely baffles me how shows are made in wider ratios anyway.

>>720664051
>can view all the hdr steps on my 'sdr' screen
bros??

Where do you even find HDR media, like movies or tv?
I've been disappointed with most HDR vidya

>>720661632
>perfect blacks (ok ok slightly raised vs my turned off monitor)
>can see cloudy stuff in the blacks, possibly due to banding on the lowest of lows
works on my TN(r)(tm)

Thinking about getting an OLED monitor since just love my LG G3 so much.
>will be 27"
>will probably be and LG Panel again, but might go with QD-OLED
>don't care about HDR much, since the implementation is bonkers in all fronts and I can watch HDR on my TV
Only thing I wonder about is if I'll get a 1440p or 4k screen.
1440p is what my PC can realistically run, but I guess 4k looks better for browsing and reading? On my TV I just interpolate from 1440p and it doesn't look noticeably worse but I sit far enough away. Can I expect the same from a monitor?

>>720664186
>I want to know why so many TV shows made for cable/streaming/etc use narrower aspect ratios than 16:9.
every tv director wants to be a big hollywood director. 21:9 is ~cinematic~

>>720664360
post a photo of your monitor

HDR is a meme but ultrawide is based

>>720664614
>aspect ratio vs resolution

>TN panel
>the only games that pissed me off due to color banding were witcher 3 loading screens and control + alan wake 2
>fixed the latter 2 with reshade depth based banding reduction shader and replaced ingame grain with my own one

>>720630745
facebook marketplace, type "crt monitor"
do this for 3 minutes every day. soon you will have a good condition monitor that displays 4:3 great for your retro games

>>720664693
i'm sorry you're poor

>>720664614
the only good take ITT

>>720664805
it's called not being privy to snake oil marketing
and im also lazy, and the jews absolutely hate it

>>720664972
just create a custom resolution for your 16:9 monitor, and you have ultrawide

>>720664614
ultrashort is gay.

>>720664972
short kings unite!

>>720665110
on a 2560x1440 panel you can easily do 2560x1080 custom res but is it possible to do 3440x1440 on 2560x1440? whenever i tried it, it fucked up the aspect due to scaling off height not width, so it gave this filled 3440x1440 image on a 16:9 display without any bars. even the scaling settings in monitor osd and nvidia cp didnt help.

>>720659879
>some of the time
tvs have been tried and tested for a long ass time now and you can even run shit to auto shut off and start it with the pc even though it's not meant for it
autostart to same input and whatever else already standard
way more settings
you get a 77" oled tv for the same price as a 32" oled, or cheaper
literally is no bloat, it's been solved
this is for LG or Samsung

>>720660093
buy on sale, bought latest one for 600€
monitor market is too volatile, huge swings

>>720660549
real ninjas run with all safeties off for maximum fidelity

>>720660768
why are you running hdr on in windows?

>>720661010
in 2 years lil bro

>>720661081
all those protections are memes except pixel refresh, which is the most disurptive, which msi has fucked up

>>720661183
>burn in ocd
stop being poor, honestly, the solution
>oh and of course 5x the price of ips
the joke here is that plenty ips'es are actually more...

>>720665497
More proof that 4k is a logical choice. Can easily do 3440x1440 on a 4k panel.

>>720661250
zero reason to get 1440p unless you want 500hz

>>720661398
4k monitors can run lower resolutions
basing your monitor on what your gpu can run in a triple a game or whatever metric is insane
this is not 1998 anymore

>>720664357
games are better for hdr than most movies which are not even mastered for enough brightness
just fix your gaymes
>Where do you even find HDR media, like movies or tv?
torrentmaxx

>>720664417
never get 1440p due to fringing and pixel density on monitors if u dont have to
its that simple

>>720665851
>stop being poor, honestly, the solution
>just buy a new monitor every 1.5 years
>look how much money I have a I replace my monitor everytime
wow what a big boy you are!!

>>720665110
>avg 16:9 is 24 inch
>avg 21:9 is 29-34 inch
>emulate 21:9 on 16:9
>without counting the black bars, you get 19-22 inches
emulated 21:9 aint the same bro

>>720639729
HDR looks like shit on IPS and looks amazing on OLED

>>720665939
non native looks like shit on flat screens

>>720666070
Even normal SDR content looks a lot better on OLED, but the OLED technology is not suitable for monitors, so it's not really relevant.

>>720664585
what are you gonna do with it, run a colorimeter test or just cope harder knowing someone else has a better screen?

>>720666039
especially when you get up to 45" ultrawide which is as high as you wanna go for a monitor, size wise

>>720666276
>Even normal SDR content looks a lot better on OLED,
Yep, but HDR (I'm using the Windows 11 auto HDR on most games) looks really cool too

>but the OLED technology is not suitable for monitors, so it's not really relevant.
??

>>720665116
You're just poor.

>>720665110
But then you're just looking at a smaller game, that's stupid.

>>720666326
damn bro, so you did take that photo, and it looked so bad, you are now coming up with excuses not to post it?

oled rocks

>>720666383
Thanks I don't need procedural or AI shit to modify my content. I only have SDR content and it's perfectly enough.
>>but the OLED technology is not suitable for monitors, so it's not really relevant.
>??
If it's not obvious, I don't think I have anything to say to you. Keep consuming new monitors every 3 years.

>>720666470
you're cutting the monitor in half to save money, and I'm the poor one?

>>720667343
What?

>>720667480
a 16:9 of the same width would be taller.