Thread 723480595

Where does the "shop keeper is the most dangerous enemy in the game" trope come from?

>>723480595 (OP)
almost forgot about this one, damn shame still.

>>723480595 (OP)
Splunky

>>723480595 (OP)
>abandoned

>>723480595 (OP)
Sauce?

>>723480968
Labyrinth of estras

>>723480767
I dont know if it was first, but the ps1 torneko game did it decades before

>>723480595 (OP)
Please don't steal from beast wives. They need to earn a living too

>>723480595 (OP)
Is it implying she wants to eat the player?
If yes, based. If no, boring.

>>723480595 (OP)
Roof Koreans

>>723480595 (OP)
that one cunt in some old zelda nes game that killed you if you left the store without paying

>>723481462
was this game inspiration for the pokemon mystery dungeon series?

>>723480595 (OP)
Kecleon is strongest pokemon

>>723480595 (OP)
Legend of Zelda

>>723480595 (OP)
Probably Nethack

>>723480595 (OP)
this thing getting abandoned is the worst thing to happen in the h game industry

>>723480595 (OP)
You have to be tough to comfortably run a shop in a place filled with monsters.

>>723480595 (OP)
Encouraging a risk/reward playstyle and subverting expectations

It's kinda really fucking stupid to have all your goods out on the floor like that.

Little boys want one thing only and it's disgustan

>>723481853
Only good answer in the thread. I haven't played rogue though. Did it have fightable shopkeepers?

>>723482097
High trust society until the humie came.

>>723480595 (OP)
if it was a chinese game doing it you fags would scream copyright and sue them

>>723480595 (OP)
probably actual classic grid and turn based roguelikes.

>>723482671
Meds this instant, she/her.

>>723481741
Same developer, so they probably just reskinned the engine with pokemon.

>>723481886
oh what a terrible start to the day.

>>723481741
chunsoft has been making mystery dungeon games for a looooong time
that ps1 torneko is a sequel to a 1993 game
not sure if it was the first fushigi no dungeon or a japanese roguelike for that matter though

>>723482671
What?

My favorite version is this

>>723482671
trvke

>>723480595 (OP)
Real answer: Link's Awakening.

Probably some roguelike that couldn't figure out a better way of stopping you from attacking shopkeepers

In Mario RPG, the Toad before the final boss that sells you stuff...how did he get there safely? The mobs are literal clones of bosses.

>>723480595 (OP)
It's better than the alternative of a weak shopkeeper in the middle of an unforgiving wilderness.
Although the best trope would just be weak shopkeeper who has the brains to hire bodyguards to pummel shoplifters.

>kill the shopkeeper
>his ghost starts haunting you

>>723480595 (OP)
Why are the controls for jap games always so weird?

>>723480595 (OP)
I think it's just the natural result of two things:
>this guy not only lives in the dungeon like it's fucking nothing, but also dares to set up shop there, so clearly he can deal with anything in the dungeon
>if you can just kill the shopkeeper to get items for free then that's the optimal way to play, which completely changes the balance and makes shops pointless

>>723480595 (OP)
didn't this game's dev have a meltdown on f95

>>723480595 (OP)
I don't see her being dangerous here. Just processing betrayal

>>723483956
No, he had a meltie over some fag on f95 running the demo through machine translation which wasn't needed since the demo already had an option to switch to MTL'd EN version, though obscure.
tl;dr we lost a potential shota rape action game because of fag95

>>723483241
Nethack was before LA, anon, and it's why it's so common in roguelikes

>>723480595 (OP)
where can i find a working download to this unfinished game. I want to have sex with the characters. Thank you please.

I just remember it from Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, so kino.

>>723484294
Try hentai sharing

>>723484061
>hentai game creator run away at the first occasion because of bullshit reasons so he doesn't have to finish the game
A tale as old as time.

>>723480595 (OP)
>Where does the "shop keeper is the most dangerous enemy in the game" trope come from?

It stared in Dungeons and Dragons, once players start to get very strong DMs needed a way to stop players from just taking whatever they wanted, so they would make the shopkeep /barkeep a retired adventurer and destroy them if they tried it.

>>723480595 (OP)
what game, please?

>>723484061
No, we lost it because the dev is a retarded sperg

>>723483201
This is the earliest example of the trope that I can recall. Might be the first to do it.

>>723484061
>male protagonist

Nothing of value was lost if you aren't gay.

>>723484689
Reminds me of when some vorefag made a pretty fucking good game, but then whined and cried that people only cared about the fetish content and kept requesting more fetish content so he dropped development and hasn't touched it since

like
my brother in christ, you're making a fetish game, no fucking shit people are there for the fetish content

>>723484061
no, that's pretty typical autistic histrionic japanese doujin dev stuff.
a guy like that would have found some perceived social slight from a westerner to be offended by and freak out about no matter what

>>723484925
Naw Nethack is earlier

>>723480595 (OP)
I liked the dev's previous game
shame he apparently gave up on this one

>>723484890
Everyone knows jp devs are skittish as all fuck, especially if their stuff gets pirated. You have to work around it.

>>723485205
bee hips.

>>723485205
Name? That's a fat fucking stinger

>>723484971
>shota protagonist
Everything was lost

>>723485310
human with accessories* hips

>>723485343
echidna wars DX
it's all vore

>>723480595 (OP)
I played this game, but besides the wolf and slime girl is that all there is to it at the moment?
Maybe I didn't understand the controls but I felt like the sex scenes went a bit too fast with a constant element of pressure that doesn't allow you to really enjoy them.

Great potential however, I'm surprised nobody tried to replicate it in the last couple of years it's been abandoned. Animations like that aren't easy.

Besides if it was a westerner replicating it it wouldn't be a soulful and they'd probably insert their shit fetishes.

>>723485265
No. I'm tired of giving japs a pass for behaving like retards. It's this same coddling attitude that lets nintendo get away with producing nothing but lazy dogshit for babies while also being malicious litigants.

>>723485447
>I'm tired of giving japs a pass for behaving like retards.
Nobody's telling you to but don't be surprised when japs act like japs.

>>723480595 (OP)
Awkward dialogue. Why did the shop keeper ask "what's the bill?" when she's the seller, and she just told him the bill a second ago.

>>723485774
Machine translator. Please consider

>>723480595 (OP)
>>723480767
>>723481462
Link's Awakening, Gen Alphies.

>>723485954
Nope.
tendies don't know shit as always

>>723486026
>No prior example
Massive L, kid.

>>723486085
>>723481853

>>723480595 (OP)
>>723482274
Don't care about slimes but damn those wolf animations were animated so well. Devastating he quit.

>>723485954
If you're going to insult others at least be correct. Nethack did it first, and most roguelikes can trace their roots back to nethack not zelda

>>723487179
It's a roguelite

>>723482365
No it didn't have shops

>>723487316
Nooo, my precious ads...

>>723487245
Are you retarded?

>>723480595 (OP)
>Real Time Mystery Dungeon
I have never considered the possibility and I feel stupid for it. Are there any games (actually finished) with this premise?

>>723487316
Tell me there is a working demo somewhere

>>723487245
Why are you making shit up that is verifyably untrue?

Valve also did it although its because they're protected by all the Gods

>>723487316
>lose to get the porn
I am tired of this meme

>>723487647
see
>>723486312

>>723487541
>Are there any games (actually finished) with this premise?
Nope.

>>723487720
More like
>get hit to get the porn

>>723480595 (OP)
>another promising eroge strangled in its crib by Fag95

>>723487720
The "being tired of losing to get the porn" meme is a meme and false.
There is nothing inherently wrong with it, same as the meme of ">female MC".

>>723487796
God fucking damn it

>>723480595 (OP)
>>723482274
>>723487316
Why did he abandon it bros? And what is he doing now?

>>723487915
I want a game with porn in it, not porn with a game poorly attached to it.
If you just want to jerk off to something, go look at shit on rule34, you don't need an excuse to do it.

Shopkeepers being strong has been a thing for a very long time. The oldest example I can think of is nethack.

>>723483308
Axed.

>>723487647
>>723487424
I have beaten the original Rogue. It did not have shops or shopkeepers. Gold is purely for the sake of your score at the end of the game.

>>723487796
The saddest part to me is that coomtential aside, I really like the artstyle and fluidity of gameplay, and it looks like it'd be fun even with all the adult material stripped away.

>>723480595 (OP)
Probably Link's Awakening

>>723480595 (OP)
I didn't know this game was a thing, and now I am sad that it's cancelled.

>>723482274
>throw me to the wolves and I'll come back a proud father

>>723488614
I'm sorry to do that too you anon

I need more monster girl games that don't take the weg "shitty romance novel cover art" pill

>>723480595 (OP)
In Dungeon Master 2 (1993) each shopkeeper had "bodyguard" that was pretty tough and would aggro if any harm was attempted to the shopkeeper.

>>723487541
"dungeon crawling" part in Recettear?

>>723487316
damn son

>>723482097
Those who fuck around find out. Putting the goods on the floor is proof that they're under surveillance

>>723480595 (OP)
it's just a cohencidence my little goy

We are fated to never have the Breath of The Wild of H-games, aren't we?

>>723489671
https://files.catbox.moe/kgtj7s.zip
latest version with uncen patch

>>723488025
dev is throwing a hissyfit, common in any modern jap endeavour

god why can't rape dungeons be real?

>>723480595 (OP)
it comes from the jews

>>723492472
they are, they're just full of men

>>723492472
They exit, but they aren't full of rapist women that will suck you dry.

>>723480595 (OP)
jews

>>723487316
AIIIIEEEEEE
OH MY GOD NO NONO PLEASE DON'T SUCK MY DICK PLEEEEASE!!!

>>723487316
>This KINO got cancelled
Noooo.....

>>723494681
yuu shud haaf yuuseddo MAI turansrasion, gaijinme...

>>723490582
See those boobs? You can climb them!

>>723488152
Oh, I misunderstood. I thought you were saying nethack doesn't have shops. Mb

>>723481853
This is the real answer

>>723487915
both of these are wrong and you are bad

>>723487316
stop skipping it you fucking faggot

>>723480595 (OP)
Old tg DND campaigns where murderhobo assholes would kill and rob every shopkeeper they came across until the DM decides to throw in a retired adventurer as one.

This shit was around in the cold war, where the idea of renegade capitalists operating behind the Iron Curtain was somewhat romantic.

See also EARLY ultima, and Nethack. Legacy of the ancients, and other old, old school RPGs, as well as their JP spawn and inspirations.

>>723485205
Wait OP game was made by the same devs??? Somebody link the damn game right now

>>723481462
>>723481741
MYSTERY dungeon is it's own series.

But you're right. Torneiko's incredibly influental here.

>>723483138
Same game, SNES version. Chunsoft/Enix.

>>723481853
This anon knows Izchak's Wrath.

>>723480595 (OP)
Millennials

>>723483253
Absolutely not. They could have made vending machines. They could have gone menu based. They WANTED the immersive elements of having the shit on the ground, a character to interact with, emergent gameplay with monsters showing up. Hey I gave the shopkeeper all my gold and then a dwarf rips him off! Hey, a dragon blasted half of the shopeeper's inventory and they're now fighting.

>>723487179
Ultima 1 did it before Nethack.

>>723481595
Yiff in hell furfag.

>>723487882
Yep, I'm sure the game would've come out by now if the fags at f95 hadn't made the mtl patch.
And you obviously would've found it and supported the creator, instead of pirating, right? All in nihongo

>>723498806
>All in nihongo
Are you dumb?
>>723484061
>the demo already had an option to switch to MTL'd EN version

>>723497671
>Ultima
So hes that old

>try to play on linux using wine
>game slows down to 1 fps and crashes at the end of the wolf scene
ACK...!

>>723480767
>>723481462
Both of them got it from classic roguelikes, Hack's shopkeepers in particular.

>>723480595 (OP)
Oldest example I've played is Nethack, though the shopkeepers aren't the strongest, just very strong. It's a practical measure or you'd just steal all their stuff and kill them.

>>723500134
Skill issue~

>>723499831
Older. I remember the transition from electromechanical games to solid state. The electronic games before video games.

Pic somewhat related.

>>723500892
>for Apple II w/48k
What does this mean?

>>723501104
probably the 48KB RAM version of an Apple II computer

>>723501271
Forgot to mention, w/ is a common abbreviation for "with" just in case you're an ESL fren and didn't know

>>723501271
oh duh, the w/ is just with shorthand, thanks I'm a retard

hopefully he realized that getting a reward for LOSING is fucking stupid

>>723501939
Reward? You're getting raped. By hot girls.

>>723480595 (OP)
I know Dota had some sort of it, so it wouldn't surprise if it's an RPG staple since DnD dm's HATED players robbing shopkeepers

>>723498460
You waited too long

>>723497681
no just one of the devs, Asimofu. D-Gate didn't work on it.

>>723484742
I recognize this anime but can't remember the name. It was really boring.

>>723490582
What the fuck is wrong with the art? Is this AI upscaling?

>>723501104
It means your apple 2 needed a MINIMUM of 48 k to run the game.

>>723502246
Players being violent retards in tg was a thing back when Jimmy Carter was president.

>>723504181
I think so

>>723504181
That's definitely the artifacts from an older ai upscaler, yeah

Shit like this is why you can never trust a Jap without it's state-mandated tard-wrangler

>>723480595 (OP)
What game?

>>723509432
>>723490869

>>723509587
>zip from catbox linked on 4chan
Can I get a name?

>>723509270
Yeah because western erotic game developers never throw tantrums or leave their work unfinished

>>723509772
labyrinth of estras

>>723509843
thanks

>>723480595 (OP)
Ultima.

>>723490869
Oh hell yeah.

>>723509772
Dude nobody is going to hack your computer. 4chan isn't teh evil underworld of teh internetz!!! anymore.

>>723485205
>>723487316
>worked on Echidna Wars
>no vore
Missed opportunity but I guess it died anyway.

>>723480595 (OP)
Stealing this dungeon idea for my game, thanks. Shame the dev abandoned it.

>>723487316
>always complained about sex scenes being the heroine getting raped when you lose
>solution is as simple as reversing genders and making MC a guy
genius developer

>>723510530
there's already a large number of these games already it's not even close to an original concept

>>723510643
you mean femc ones? yeah those are lame

>>723485205
It's hip to fuck bees.

>>723510765
no, male protagonist. You clearly haven't even tried to look for them.

>>723510530
are you a woman?

>>723487541
Isn’t that kinda what Dark Cloud was?

>>723510218
That's exactly what a hacker would say.

>>723509840
West devs just trade in the sperg chance for nearly 100% infinite-development-patreon rate.

>>723487316
>Lose
>Sex scene
Objectively bad game design.

>>723485061
Honestly for nearly every schizo fetish dev meltdown you don't have to dig very deep to find the old "I thought making a fetish game would be easy this takes too long and is too much goddamn work"

>>723487541
depends on how your define that
I've seen a couple of action h games that have random dungeon generation like mystery dungeon but they've all been pretty bad and easy. This completely ignores one of the key parts of mystery dungeon games where the enemies are often extremely dangerous and your goal while exploring is to collect items to handle them.

>>723480595 (OP)
The legend of Zelda, link's Awakening to be specific.

>>723511672
>not rewarding your retarded players with a sex scene
It's like you don't eve like video games

>>723511672
losing is losing your virginity.

>>723481853
>Nethack
why didn't you post a webm of it instead of whatever zoomer shit is that

>>723512376
Why do you care you autistic nigger?

>>723511672
This. I don't care if the MC is a shota, a 7ft tall gigachad, a fat and bald ugly bastard or a futa, just enough with the defeat sex scenes and submissive male/penis-haver faggotry, jesus.

>>723500892
Why hasn't Lord British saved modern gaming yet? Where did we go so wrong?

>>723480595 (OP)
>tranny fetish
Yikes.

>>723512459
Because I want the game in the webm

>>723512750
Cosmic radiation fried his brain

>>723512459
no one played nethack

>>723488131
Quite the opposite, anon. It literally came back today.

>>723480595 (OP)
>labirynth of astra
FUUUCKKK! I REMEMBER THIS GAME!
Is it still abandoned? Did the dev die or something? This had the most erotic sex scenes I've seen in an H-game, so I was very sad to see it dead.

>>723480595 (OP)
>this game
>monster girl island
Fuck. It's always the most erotic ones that go first.
At least Monster Girl Dreams is still going strong.

>>723515339
>going strong.
Uh huh. From a game that was updated regularly to a vn that doesn't get updated. Strong.

>>723481853
what is this?

>>723515419
well it was going strong last time i checked, which was like 6 months ago
did something happen?

>>723515646
6 months ago it was already in the "I'm only doing this so you feed my patreon" tier.

>>723515339
You forgot about Monster Girl Encyclopedia RPG.

>>723515419
It was updated last month and the next update is planned for the end of october.

>>723515506
Neco-arc

>>723514329
Nethack has had millions of players.

Can someone explain how to avoid the ejaculation?
I keep holding/tapping X or Z but it doesn't seem to do anything.

>>723512750
He dissapeared into the Great Stygian Abyss at the age of MMO acendants specifically Korea, and hasn't been seen since. And the current leaders don't want him back.

>>723516276
You have to tap X or Z to try and push the slut away when she's doing a slow animation, while it's better to hold the button to hold your coom in when they're doing their "quick" animation. I try to avoid running out of stamina, though I don't know if it really makes a difference. You'll usually get out this way if you get caught with low coom meter, but good luck if it's any higher.

>>723516127
yet you can't even post a webm because no one played it including you zoomer larpers
no, hearing about it from your "friend" youtube eceleb top 10 trivia video doesn't count as playing it

Managed to reach the end.
The dev is talented but also stupid because he could take all the money the gooners want to throw at him and get with one or two geeked out dudes to finish the game, and then enjoy being a millionaire afterwards. But no.

>>723517226
>you need to bagmax or you are retarded
America moment

>>723480595 (OP)
>this looks like a porn game
>hmm maybe not
>oh wait, it's a porn game
I'm not even sure how I knew before I saw the fox girl

There's really infinite demand for porn games, maybe i should stop lazying around....

>>723484742
Came in here specifically to post this. DOesn't even have to be high level. An unsuspecting, naive and high-trust DM can encounter Murder Hobos as early as session 0.
>DM: "Okay, the shopkeeper is selling his wares. What would you like?"
>Player: "Wait, hang on, I've seen the NPC human stat blocks. We're at least 3 times as powerful as this guy and every guard in town, AND there are four of us and nobody is around..."
>DM sweats profusely

>>723511672
Yes, but too many devs are terrified of having the MC rape rather than the enemies. Nonsense, but that's the way it is on this gay earth.

>>723516854
sorry, i didn't have OBS installed on my windows 3.11 pc

>>723483201
>changes your name to THIEF for the rest of the game

based.

>>723482097
>*blocks you're are path in ur way*

>>723490582
Mom is hotter and actually pulls her tits out.

>>723514695
New season also confirmed.

>>723518538
Yeah this is a thing is any major city in the west.
>>723518603
Yeah but the slow build on the sister is hotter.

>>723518730
You know what, that's fair.

Moms innies tho

>>723487316
thank god the retard ACKd himself the combat is absolute fucking dogshit and the break free spam literally does fucking nothing

>defeat the shopkeeper
>her daughter can be found later in the dungeon looking for her
I didn't have it in me to keep doing that, I'd rather just steal from the shop and bail.

>>723519192
What, you actually kill them, not beat their sturdy monster bodies unconscious?
Fukken dropped.

>>723519414
no they actually are fine, they just despawn when defeated.
Tanukichi doesn't even hold it against you when you see her in town or in future dungeons, it's just business. and also she can easily kick your ass so stealing, let alone defeating her is already pretty tough
Stealing is actually the only way to recruit an Imp into your party, they're only interested in stolen goods as gifts. They can tell if you're a bad boy

>>723519414
It's fine, she just teleports over to the monster insurance office to collect her monster insurance check.

>>723482274
is the game completed?

>>723520773
It's abandoned

>>723520814
Every time.

>>723519192
I didn't need to know this. Even though I never planned on fighting her, this just seals the deal.

>>723520990
Tanukachi has indentured servants, fences stolen goods provided to her by nekomata, and sells alcohol to minors. She isn't innocent.

>>723519192
>monster girl and the mysterious adventure
Never heard of it. Is it good? Should I play the first one or the sequel?

>>723520773
A couple years ago he said he was still working on it, but last I heard he's disillusioned with talking to people on the internet. They'll pirate from you while also screaming and harassing you, and it's difficult to even talk with these people because they're often a) speaking in another language (english) and b) don't speak that language well so even putting it through a translator won't make sense. It's hard to stay motivated when you have angry idiots that can't communicate and shit all over everything.

>>723521327
It's a pretty solid mystery dungeon roguelike where you befriend monster girls. I've put hundreds of hours into it and it's sequel, so yeah I think it's pretty good. You should play the remaster of the first game and then the sequel.

>>723521327
You can start with the sequel just fine and you'll just miss a couple references. He did remake the 1st recently, so the option is there.
I loved the game, but it was also my first mystery dungeon because I never got into the pokemon ones back in the day.

>>723521469
how much porn does it have

>>723521565
None. It's SFW. There's some fanart though.

>>723489932
see >>723497760
and know Izchak's Wrath

>>723497671
>Legacy of the ancients
Thank you, I've been trying to remember the name of this game for years.
When you open the second half of the museum it suddenly goes from comfy to cavernous, and young me instantly dropped the game.

>>723487316
catbox shitting itself?

>>723487796
What happens next?

>>723521628
Dang it, seems like the perfect fit

>>723521908
Sorry, platonic love only in this game.

>>723521469
>>723521494
I see, thanks bros. I'll see if i can get it.

>>723521469
>>723521494
by the way, i didn't mention it before but wow that's one corny ass name
>monster girl and the mysterious adventure
it's not even "monster girls" just "monster girl", individual. like it's just the one monster girl
>and the mysterious adventure
that's the most generic string of words you could ever give to an RPG game title, and this one has both together to describe one single thing
like what the hell's up with that

>>723516854
i don't think nethack visuals particularly exciting to look at.

>>723516854
>zoomer larpers
why does this bother you so much?

>>723523252
The title is actually "Monster Girls" plural. The dev is Japanese and spells the game's name wrong in the credits, please understand.

>>723523252
Would you rather the title be
>That time I explored a mysterious 999 floor dungeon and recruited hundreds of monster girls along the way

>just died to a log trap straight into a rockfall trap in Shiren 6 after picking up some good gear, just completely one-shot with no chance to react
I don't know where to else to complain about this malarkey and this is kind of a pseudo-Mystery Dungeon thread

>>723524028
The trend of that naming scheme has gotten really fucking old. Absolute soulless bugman behavior.

>>723524509
That is one thing I have to criticize about the mystery dungeon genre. They're really committed to keeping that one mechanic of random invisible traps on potentially any square with the only counterplay being to tediously swing at every single tile. The Mystery Chronicles version of One Way Heroics added this and it fucked the game so hard with random unfair bullshit that they latter patched in an option to turn it off. In most traditional roguelikes the traps aren't as potentially devastating or they offer significantly better counterplay to them.

>>723525130
To be fair this was unusual. I've never quite seen an insta-kill trap combo like that in 200 hours of playing. Maybe it's because it happened in the ultimate dungeon to the game's original ultimate dungeon, and it also happened on the 2nd floor, so no big loss.
Usually you can respond to really nasty traps, and traps are kinda mild on their own and are more circumstantially dangerous, or dangerous in combination with other factors.
There was that one time an enemy from offscreen threw a rare weed at me that cursed and sealed my entire inventory super late in a difficult dungeon in Shiren 5, but that wasn't a trap. It was actual total fucking bullshit, though.

>>723480595 (OP)
>>723482274
>>723487316
i need something like this but the girls are all covered in MAP pride clothes and tattoos

>>723527645
What doujinmaxxing does to a mfer.

>>723480595 (OP)
from the fact that most people would joke about being able to steal from shopkeepers since they would be pretty weak compared to the player yet still gatekeep them by making you give them cash, realistically you could just steal from them and maybe even be justified in doing so in some examples. Devs started giving you the option to fight or steal from them but with the catch that they're actually really powerful. overtime it became a trope.

>>723528486
>shopkeeper is always ahead of you in every dungeon
>enemies do not dare spawn in the shopkeeper's space
Realistically you could not "just steal from them".

>>723484742
Why not just have the shopkeeper or the authorities place a bounty on the players afterwards? Makes more sense.

>>723518120
>nobody is around
>new guys walk into town, shopkeeper dies, and his wares are now in their possession
The authorities can easily connect the dots.

>>723534048
They can connect the dots then get absolutely murdered from the PCs equipped with all the new shit they just jacked.

More realistically, they just lie and say they brought it with them, or just go to another town and that solves that problem dead on the spot.

>>723480595 (OP)
Nethack, I think
I liked how Dota did it

>>723523420
You just have to post extremely silly screenshots of it.

>>723480595 (OP)
wow, this has a simple but erotic artstyle, just how I like it, and the animations were pretty well done too. + monster girls. game also seems like it would be kinda fun.
shame that it was dropped, but I'm grateful that at least this little prototype was released. great inspiration.

>>723480595 (OP)
The jews

>>723482365
>Only good answer in the thread. I haven't played rogue though. Did it have fightable shopkeepers?
13 year olds have never been more comfortable posting on this website

I like the one in Castlevania 64 where if you spend over a certain amount of gold the demon shopkeeper fights you.

>>723481595
Yiff in heaven furchad

>>723490869
Damn this game is kind of garbage. The wolf girl just grabs you and it's insta loss. Not even clear how to properly struggle.

>>723538074
It takes a little bit to parse everything but isn't that hard to figure out if you actually read the information on the screen. Tapping buttons builds up struggle while draining stamina, while holding a button resists to reduce damage taken while still allowing stamina to regenerate. The big X on your cum gauge is the struggle build up and when it reaches the top you escape.

>>723480595 (OP)
>Where does the "shop keeper is the most dangerous enemy in the game" trope come from?
From black niggers stealing from a shopkeeper that carries a glock or a shotgun.

zelda 1

disregard the rest of the thread

>>723488025
>someone saved the drawing I saved from some other anon on a random garctic phone match
heh.

>>723487915
fag

does the shop keeper actually have scenes or did he abandon it before that?

Game in the OP is 11/10, it's a damn shame it never got finished. I absolutely love shota virginity defence against Monster girls, that's what makes CoC so good.
>Lose to get rape scenes
You didn't play the game, they capture you and use seductive/build up moves that you can escape from and heal, you can even escape from the rape if you're lucky. We desperately need more games like this, Super Monsters and Girls was great for similar reasons but doesn't compare at all in the graphics/animations department.
Also re the actual question, my favourite example is Chocobos Dungeon 2. If you steal from Doom you get chased by a horde of insta-kill Dooms that will try to corner you.

>>723480595 (OP)
roguelikes started it not sure which one did it first I don't think rogue has shops. Stealing causes the shopkeeper to go aggro and it needs to be powerful so you think twice about doing it.

>>723480595 (OP)
>>723482274
>UNITY ABANDONED Labyrinth of Estras [v0.0.8] [ASIMOFU]
>Abandoned

>>723542368
>if you're lucky
Shit game design

>>723487702
That's just Gaben's self-insert, he's a big Jew himself.

>>723480595 (OP)
Nethack maybe

>>723487316
>mystery dungeon but as an action rpg
Honestly a shame it's porn so the concept will never be fully realized since the intent of the game is to make you jerk off and nothing more.

>>723485371
You're retarded.

>>723510218
Yeah just recently I downloaded an indie game off of here called lost boy and it was perfectly fine.asdlkawj343hla

>>723481595
Yiff in purgatory furman.

>>723521357
It was fucking indians, wasnt it

>>723480595 (OP)
fuck i hate how this was abandoned by the dev

>>723480595 (OP)
Probably Hack, which jacked up its shopkeepers to be as tough as a mid-game player to prevent lowbies from thoughtlessly stealing from them.

>>723482274
Beasts all over the shop.

>>723480595 (OP)
>>723517226
>get to shopkeeper
>steal stuff
>figure it's going to be good next time we meet
>end of game
Damnit.

>>723480595 (OP)
Link's awakening

>>723542539
Bad luck is a skill issue anon, work on yourself.

>>723480595 (OP)
>Look at source
>v0.0.8
>Abandoned

>>723487915
>rewarded for losing
>being the raped and not the rapist

Estrogen thriving in the gaming community I see. Give me a normal sword and sorcery fantasy game that jusy happens to let me rape or intervene with rape or witness rape while I run around killing and doing quests ffs. Even skyrim modders are running around as women losing on purpose. Its the gayest thing.

>>723536076
God, I miss old /rlg/

>>723547680
Same

>>723481741
Torneko is the original, then the devs wanted to make a sequel without Enix licensed characters so they made Shiren the Wanderer, since then they've made a bunch of games in the same "series" both using their own OC and using licensed characters. Most typically get localized as "Mystery Dungeon" in the west.

>>723547773
>it's been ten years since the MuMo challenge was first conquered

>>723483201
Just steal the bow after you buy the shovel and you never have to return to the shop.

>>723534886
>>723502246
>the Deadlock shopkeeper is Jewish
>the only Jew in the cast despite taking place in NYC
>heavily implied that there is some sort of fraternity or organization of Jewish shopkeepers who run shit behind the scenes
Really though, what did Valve mean by this?

>>723480595 (OP)
I remember playing Pokemon Mystery Dungeon back in the day and getting my ass handed to me when I yoinked stuff from Kecleon, but if you played as a ghost-type, you could walk through walls and he wouldn't be able to reach you.

>wake up
>Find out I was banned for this
I'll fucking post it again tony

>>723548273
>removed the robe at 0.05 opacity
pussy ass edit

>>723480595 (OP)
Wait this looks pretty goo- >>723480957
Oh..

>>723480595 (OP)
NetHack. Not the most powerful enemy, but a seriously powerful one that can't be beated by usual combat until very late in the game.

>>723514695
WHAT!!?
WERE SO BACK!1!!11!

are there any games like this that are finished and aren't ss

>>723511672
That's really only bad when you have to go out of your way to lose, I.E games that don't give you an instant loss item or a checkpoint right before the boss. In this game, when you're starting out, you'll get ambushed, and raped. But you can just restart the dungeon (nevermind it's basically a demo with only two floors). And another thing all sex-scene-on-loss games ought to do is give you a gallery after you beat the game, but it often just doesn't happen.