Thread 723602356

>Even with a custom character system, you still can't find a good-looking face.
Why?

>>723602356 (OP)
>Why?
they only provide american faces

>>723603180
>american faces
I'm not American. Are Americans really that bad?

>>723602356 (OP)
The young asian woman is cute, but I don't want to play le e-prostitute face woman in a shooter game.

>>723603334
for some reason their women have the bone structure of that white alien from Prometheus, and also a penis

>>723602356 (OP)
>Pajeet Pirate thread
*Taps the image*

>>723604769
post me in the screencap!

Doesn't matter, still rebuying Tarkov 1.0 on Steam day 1

>>723602356 (OP)
>Get one shot by exploding bot
>Lose all progress
Wow... so this is the power... of extraction shooters... woah

>>723602356 (OP)
>Default
>Clearly selecting the 5th option

>>723604769
I don't think they're indians... but I heard X is going to add flags soon, so we'll see.

can you revive strangers from being downed?

weapons hoarding is the only way to play

>>723608106
I've walked up to some and it only says knock out, maybe the team up option is for the full game.

>>723608141
give me back my gun you son of a bitch

>>723602384
It's more of a playable concept art piece, because everything about the actual gameplay from how it feels to control to enemy AI is basic as fuck. And the last few major updates have essentially doubled on it and instead of revamping/fixing it they're just adding more zones and shit

>>723608141
Ferro is the only good common gun

>>723602356 (OP)
Because if they offer even one decent option everyone will pick that one and all the trash they want to push loses by default. I still remember Dark Tide on release - character creation so "good" that 99% of the female player characters you saw had the same face, because it was literally the only one that didn't look like complete dogshit.

>>723602356 (OP)
ZOMG ITS THEW TWITTER ACCOUNT THAT MAKES MONEY BY POSTING 4CHAN SCREENCAPS, MMMMMYES OBEY OBEY OBEY MY SOCIAL MEDIA LORDS

Downgraded game. Should have stayed with TT2.

>>723602356 (OP)
Its a good thing you can wear helmets because you're really just unable to make a single attractive character in this game, everyone looks ugly as shit. But that's not what I'm actually concerned about, the game on this playtest seems extremely shallow, granted there are systems missing that are going to be on the full game but what about game modes or special events and things like that to actually keep the game fresh and alive? I think its such a waste of potential that it doesn't have something akin to the survival mode that The Division had where everyone just starts out with a basic pistol in a really fucked up snowstorm or some shit and you have to loot to survive while watching out for other players, I feel like it'd be such a better experience to have that but with a bunch of different maps and conditions instead of the loot hoarding goblin gameplay that it has going on right now that favors people who loot the ever living shit out of everything in order to fuck off at the furthest and safest extraction point and the ones that get busted loadouts then wait at extraction zones to fuck people up

>>723603334
Far worse actually

>>723608106
yeah you need the defibrillator

>>723608352
It really is worse that TT2, but I cannot place my finger onto why.

>friends want to play the newest extraction slop
>playtest is free I guess I'll join

>waiting for everyone to manage their inventory
>tedious loading animation
>looting containers for ten minutes
>actual gameplay for 2 minutes
>waiting for elevator
>waiting for everyone to manage their inventory again
This genre is just "shooters but 90% not fun"

>>723609023
yeah if you play with a buncha looters its gonna be like that. there's like 1% of the progression in this playtest, so if you're not playing with the explicit purpose of pvp you're wasting your time

Does Embark just not have an art team? Both this and The Finals are the most uninspired games I've ever seen

>>723602356 (OP)
They've learned nothing from Concord.
>It was already too far along in development.
I don't buy this excuse when a modder (usually just one guy in his free time) can make passable fixes in a month. Either they don't want to fix it or it's all of the red tape that they've imposed on themselves. Either way, it's proof that the western videogame industry deserves to collapse.

>>723602356 (OP)
The artificial hype surrounding this game is absurd. Every hackfraud shooter youtuber is playing this crap and pretending it's the best thing ever.

>>723602356 (OP)
>Not one young - middle age white male face
I am so tired of racist developers.

>>723609535
They need something to play and market themselves with because no careers lol

>>723609274
Yeah, absolutely nothing memorable about this game. All the bots are generic as fuck, although I do like that big quadrapedal minigun bot.

>>723609274
>The Finals
The only fun part of this game is the weapon skins; everything else is boring.

>>723609535
buckbroken Tarkov sloptubers will shill anything if it means they can play something other than Tarkov

I had fun
Pre-ordered
Can't wait for release

>>723610735
I had a bit of fun
I know it won't last
Shan't be buying

This is one of those games that lose 90% of the playerbase in three months. The coolest part about this game is fighting the robots, except you can't do enjoy that because there's always the possibility of some retard interrupting. I've heard of that interview there they say PVE was not fun and it's just a baffling design decision to go with this retardation.

>>723611223
>This is one of those games that lose 90% of the playerbase in three months.
>>723611223
>say PVE was not fun
Stupid. They had the chance to create their own Helldivers 2. Instead, they turned the game into a boring Escape from Tarkov.

>>723611223
>I WANNA JUST KILL BOTS WAAAAAAA
go play horizon zero dawn or some other gay shit made for faggots jesus fucking christ

>>723611360
>waaaaaaah I want my original design shat up by forced pvp waaaaaah
Back to cawadoody with you

>>723611516
there is nothing original about this slop, there already exists a bunch of shit games about shooting gay robots for gay faggots like yourself, let the MEN who like to fight other MEN have their game
>-b-b-bb-b-b-b-b-b-b-but COD!!!!!
never played this shit and it's not even an own to call people "cod kiddies" in 2025 you geriatric freak

>>723609274
Yeah I don't understand what's up with that. I think they want you to buy cosmetics to cover up their ugly ass characters.

what's the story behind scavengers who all live in same city just killing each other on the surface

why don't they just kill each other in the city

wouldn't it make more sense if they worked together killing the robots

>>723611865
There is most likely some kind of police in the city

Every single match I've run with randoms I've won. Six times we went up against other randoms and each time we killed them all.

And I honestly feel hollow about it. What was the point. I get the same rewards fucking around solo with the free kit as I do killing people, except killing is slower. Additionally all I've done is fuck up their runs while not increasing my own loot at all.

The bots are great, but I would rather just more bots and other players be doing their own thing on the map rather than me having to hunt down everyone who comes near me in fear they hunt me down if I leave them alone.

>>723611865
The entire plot is retarded. The entire plot is about people scavenging trash for le ebin money but everyone still lives in shitty apartments. There's zero reasons not to collaborate

>>723608098
great, even MORE racism and xenophobia... /s

>>723602356 (OP)
>Play extraction shooter
>Nothing happens and then die
>Play Hunt Showdown
>Mostly interact with killing zombies and other creatures until a team fight begins
>Not always entirely downed in .2 seconds from someone just camping in bushes unless it's a 6 star sniper fag
Seriously why can't game developers just go with Hunt's system of extraction shooting? It's far more fun that Arena, Tarkov and this Arc bullshit.

>>723602356 (OP)
>Pajeet_Nation farming twitter bucks
It picks random shit on loadup. This was what mine defaulted too.

Extraction shooters are the most heavily astroturfed genre I swear to god. Only a tiny sliver of gamers actually like them and these devs keep going all in on this shit.

>>723604665
hot

>>723612091
police just allowing murderers to run freely makes no sense, especially when humanity is already facing extinction

>>723612237
well it's the fact that everyone lives together in the same society, but there's zero issue in said society with them murdering during an apocalypse but ONLY outside of the city for some coincidental reason

like, i can suspend my disbelief with most apocalypse settings. zombie shit is dog eat dog world, i get it. but in this game all the players are literally neighbors.

>>723612558
>>723611865
Because this was a fully coop game that got ruined by Nexon and forced to be an extraction shooter.

In the original lore, this is the left overs of humanity fighting together to beat back infinite robots. There is no human vs human conflict because why the FUCK would there be in such a setting.

What's going on with the other ex-DICE studio TTK Games? They haven't made an annoucement of their game since being founded in 2023. I'm guessing all the talent is over there

>>723612465
>too
Now who is the street shitter?

>>723612614
>no human vs human conflict because why the FUCK would there be
Any time there is competition for resoruces, there will be conflict. I dont know the lroe of the game but having people fight for limited scraps on the surface isn't too hard a concept to accept

>>723612693
I truncated the sentence after writing it (always be concise) and forgot to change the dangler.

>>723612470
>Only a tiny sliver of gamers actually like them and these devs keep going all in on this shit.
This is because game companies merely chase trends rather than invent them.
“Stalker”-style games are notoriously difficult, steeped in Slavic asceticism.
It's essentially a Souls-like game with guns.

>>723612725
No anon. When you have an infinite supply of robots murdering whats left of humanity people will be smart enough to stop fighting each other. Every single time there is an external threat, people who never got along start getting along.

>>723612470
Extraction shooters are the containment asylum for idiots and PvP casuals and I for one am glad they exist. It keeps the worst types of players, rats, campers and other no skill idiots out of real PvP games.

>>723612736
>change the dangler.
YWNBAW

>>723612725
nigga you're not reading. everyone in this game LIVES in the same town.

this isn't some zombie apocalypse where it's stranger vs stranger. the people you are killing are literally neighbors who signed up doing the same thing you're doing.

it's like a two soldiers living together in military barrack, but when deployed on the field they're murdering each other despite both being on the same team AND already facing a common threat because ?????

>>723602356 (OP)
Is that really the default, or is it just randomized?

>>723602356 (OP)
enough said, really.

>>723611865
>what's the story behind scavengers who all live in same city just killing each other on the surface
They don't, other players are meant to be from other settlements and you all go out to collect shit. Also you don't kill people you just knock them out.
>wouldn't it make more sense if they worked together killing the robots
Yeah, you can work with other players or teams to kill robots. It also makes sense to fight each other and steal their shit because you're there to loot shit and they have loot.

>Check the reddit, discord and steam forums
>Its the most toxic pathetic shitposting imaginable
There is something about these games that attracts the worst people lol

>>723612837
I'm very much a man, sir.

>>723612864
Because this is a coop game turned PvP, destroying the story and setting. Cash grabs don't make sense anon, they're cash grabs.

>>723612957
>Also you don't kill people you just knock them out.
Yeah I'm sure that punch I gave them after I riddled them with bullets just knocked them out.

>>723612864
>living together in military barrack
wtf have you ever seen a city? Just because people live in the same place doesn't mean they're close in any way or form

>>723612991
You should try reading, what does it say when you hold E to punch people?

>>723613061
>>723612991
>HURR MY LORE
Its a fucking cash grab shut the fuck up. No one gives a shit about the "lore" in a fucking Nexon game.

Extraction shooters are the most heavily astroturfed genre I swear to god. Only a tiny sliver of gamers actually like them and these devs keep going all in on this shit.

>>723613061
I know exactly what it says. I'm saying that's retarded and the ferro round I just shot through their head wouldn't care I punched them to knock them out.

>>723612957
wow magic bullets that can destroy several ton death machines but act as silly putty against humans that only puts them to sleep. the finisher move also says 'knock out' implying just a teehee friendly little brawl, he's totally fine and not murdered.

gotta reeeaaaallly suspend my disbelief here to make this shit make sense, bob

Is there even a worthwhile F2P extraction shooter? Only other two I'm aware of are Hunt & Tarkov, both of which are paid, and have quite a niche but loyal following.

>>723612773
>people will be smart enough to stop fighting each other.
thats pretty optimistic
i think you watch too much media

reputation system that labels you as a PvP goer or a pacifist. boom, problem solved with the retroactive lore changes and adds something somewhat interesting to this stale ass genre.

>>723613247
After any catastrophe, it has been shown time and time again that humans will band together and help each other; you are the one poisoned by Mad Max post-apocalyptic fantasies.

>Encounter player
>"FRIENDLY FRIENDLY FRIENDLY?"
>Yes
>Shoot him
gg

>>723613245
Just pirate Tarkov and play SPT; it's better in every conceivable way.

>>723613232
Yeah and have you noticed how in fortnite building blocks just spawn from thin air, it's so f-ing unrealistic bro

You can actually choose to cooperate, its justthat most people doesn't. The game doesn't force it, its literally the players choice to shoot on sight.

>>723613247
>>723613247
you're not fighting strangers.

you are fighting people from the same settlement as you. you are all on the same team.

this doesn't make sense even if this was some stereotypical zombie apocalypse shit.

How long before they give-up and make non-PVP queues for casual/solo players?

>>723603180
The "girl" in the thumbnail looks like an Ivan though

>>723613552
Even Tarkov has their PvE mode being more popular than PvP after their wipes go on too long.

>>723602356 (OP)
>Body Type: Male

>>723613443
>it's not suppose to make sense
fucking finally you admit it, even if you're still playing coy skirting around it by not typing it out directly

>>723613361
>any catastrophe
a few weeks into covid and people were buying up tp en masse to make a quick buck once supply chains became strained
given another year or two without a vaccine, i believe we would have been stabbing each other for cans of beans
i hope neither of us get our points proven one day

Did this game get a graphical downgrade. Every bit of footage I've looked at looks considerably worse than the previous tech test.

>>723611865
None. Lorefaggots ruin games so good riddance.

>>723613623
How does it handle loot between the modes? Separate or shared? Eg. Grind PVE to get some baseline shit to then go lose it again in PVP.

>>723613928
They're entirely separate modes, but PvE is only wiped manually by yourself instead of the global wipes of PvP.

I'm already bored. All people do is camp elevators.

>>723613826
Yes

>>723613761
>covid
>a catastrophe

>>723614381
There's nothing to do with one map and no progression

>>723613826
It's UE, so attempting to play the game at high settings will get you sub 60 fps with a mid tier PC and 140-150 fps highs with something in the top tier realm.
The engine is fucking cursed.

>>723614491
>attempting to play the game at high settings
I fucked up here, I meant minmaxxed settings.

Why is the foliage being drawn so fucking different between the various settings? Low/High have scraps, Medium has way more, and Epic is some blend of the two. No point trying to use it to obscure/hide yourself.

This game has the worst audio ive ever heard in a game. Sounds like everything is capped at 8khz and then added a shit load of distortion to hide it

>game lets you turn off AA
>everything is fucking dithered

>>723611865
I simply dont care, the story its just an excuse

the customization does not have enough options, that's why it sucks, you are not suppossed to express yourself through your unique facial features but the clothes you can aquire in game.

i dont know, i really want to like this game but this whole extraction shooter thing is super annoying to play. i just spawned with good gear that i crafted myself only to be instantly shot in the head, i didnt have any chance whatsoever to react to it. i generally dont get why every single time you spawn there are enemies within meters of your position. the game is telling you that not fighting is an option but for what benefit? because the whole point is literally to constantly aquire more and better gear, and that is most easily done by killing others.there is no way to properly communicate with an advisary.then you are also suppossed to be quiet to not get detected but literally everything will draw attention to you, not to mention the time limit that forces you to take risks anyway, not to mention that wherever you are trying to loot, someone has already been there or they will be there and shoot you.

i am done with this shit. it's not my idea of fun to be constantly killed shortly after entering a round and to play hide and seek for scraps. the loading time is way too long, i spend more time in menues than actually playing the game.

>>723615565
Welcome to 2019 anon.

>>723615775
did you tell them not to shoot

>>723615845
I honestly don't know how this game looks worse than Finals. Everything is washed in greys in this game with anti-soul fog on top.

>>723616027
when was i suppossed to do that? when i spawned i instantly got shot in the head from the distancem because someone was literally spawn camping. any other fight there also was never a chance, and why would anyone not shoot? if they get the drop on you, it is completely to their benefit. there is no benefit in letting someone live. otherwise their only option is to loot one of the handful of crates in each looting area. where is the fun in that?

>>723612773
I dont know man I think there would still be at least factions or whatever the corporate equivalent is

>>723602356 (OP)
the balancing in this game is terrible, the loot is retarded, and the progression is pointless. there doesn't seem to be anything stopping maxed out players loading in to easy maps and raping noobs

also the menu is shit. it should let you autosort for craftables and worthless things so you can instantly recycle or sell them without having to check every single items description

>A f2p chinese game mogs the shit of a million dollar DEIslop
If you're not doing what Tarkov and ABI are doing don't even bother

>>723616263
hence the wipes, but they seem to be optional in Arc Raiders. I'm not sure about that decision, never played extraction shooters myself but dont seem like a good idea. Still, smurfing exists in every game

>let's combine the annoyance of apex legends' third partying problem with the tediousness of loosing all your hard earned gear

>>723616468
that's something i never got about extraction shooters. it just seems like the design wasnt even thought-through to begin, if you have to reset all of your players progress regularly. that completely goes against the objective of the game and they still havent come up with a proper solution to this

>>723602356 (OP)
Defib is incredibly overpowered and completely ruins fights.
The amount of times i've had some faggot rez his boyfriend around a corner near-instantly is already too many.
1.5 sec is much less than a reload on most guns. Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
It's worse than s1/beta apex and the bfeedback on ultra quick rezzes back then was unanimously negative.

>>723602356 (OP)
I am excited for when twitter starts showing people's nationalities next week.

Good lord this game runs good as a UE5 game
It looks good, the premise is cool, the artstyle is nice

Why is this a shitty extraction shooter?
Why did they bend the knee to Tencent instead of makng it the story game they wanted to?

Such a shame there's a lot of cool stuff in this game but not as a shitty run of the mill boring extraction shooter nobody wants to play

>>723602356 (OP)
looks like the average IDF woman soldier

AYOOO THESE INVENTORY MENUS ARE FIRE

>>723616468
>hence the wipes, but they seem to be optional
Optional...wipes? So someone can just grind 24/7 for the best shit and just decide not to wipe? Wtf

>>723616350
I played this the other week for around 30 hours and it was a far superior experience to Arc. I don't think the genres for me though.

>>723616797
>Tencent
nexon

>>723616898
MB both despicable companies at the end of the day

whoa! that was fast

>>723616906
agreed

>>723616696
>>723616836
I dont think it really matters because you can lose it at anytime. Albion does something like this and it works. Also weapons have durability, you can repair them but they will probably be extremely hard to do so, at least what it would be end game gear. I have no idea of any of this, but these are DICE devs. I'm sure they thought of something

>>723616836
Some kind of optional prestige thing with some bonuses for choosing to reset

the concept of power wiping is such dogshit progression planning and a real testament to how shitty this genre is

just a make battle royale at that point for fuck's sake

I hate games which don't list the item name on the inventory without requiring you to hover over it first.

>>723617237
Arc raiders has no wipes, it has a prestige system like hunt.

>pull a retard gorilla move and aggro a rocketeer thinking it was a hornet
>squad yells at me and runs off in seperate directions
>I slowly plink the rocketeer down while they die alone
>loot it just in time for a full squad to walk up and murder me
I was the winner, got that 5k rocketeer drive in my prison pocket

>>723617453
Guessing you ferro'd it. around how many shots?

>>723617516
I brought a full stack of 40 ammo and used a little more than 20? I wiffed quite a few shots

I played it a bit more today both with friends and solo and it's growing on me, lots of fun tacticool stuff you can do and encounters are always interesting in some way.
I really feel like biting the bullet bros...

>>723616925
Me too anon, me too.

>>723617237
Extraction shooters are niche for a reason: people have gotten too used to endlessly hoarding useless digital paraphernalia, spending countless hours doing boring, menial work for the chance of getting an item or spending stupid ammounts of money for it. These type of games offer the opposite experience, at least there is something different to do

>>723616925
>>723617727
>Less than 1 hour played
Filtered? Little PvE shitters?

>>723617863
what do you mean with different? because as far as i see it, looting and crafting have been massively popular stables in gaming for many years now.

crafting and surival mechanics are such shallow ways to fake actual content. you are constantly forcing your players to keep up with deteriorating equipment, which takes a lot of time and effort but ultimately just give the impression of content and gameplay. you can sink a ton of hours into those games, but what you are doing is pressing "e" or whatever to get randomized bullshit items over and over and over again.

i think cyberpunk 2077 struck a really nice balance: give players a few loot types from enemies and stuff, that can be quickly turned into cash or equipment and dont overwhelm them with a plethory of slighlty different equally useless mini items that you constantly have to look out for and collect to get minor benefits

>>723617863
>people have gotten too used to endlessly hoarding useless digital paraphernalia
Yeah man I love hoarding stacks of scrap metal and plastic parts in my stash
>spending countless hours doing boring, menial work for the chance of getting an item
Yeah man I love having to loot 5 wires in a match and 1 battery and extract them to unlock a basic item I could craft anyway
>or spending stupid ammounts of money for it.
Hey man the shop won't be available until Arc Raiders launches on October 30th. Pre-order the deluxe edition and receive the Lucky Duck Bundle pre-order bonus at launch!
The Lucky Duck Bundle contains the exclusive Hatchling Backpack and Golden Rubber Duck Backpack Charm.
>These type of games offer the opposite experience, at least there is something different to do
So true!

How do you survive as a solo player in these games? Do I need to spiritually transform into Gollum?

>>723616925
>>723617727
Me three, anons

>>723618246
Go in with the free kit and yell dont shoot

>>723618246
be patient and zen, 30 mins is an eternity and most matches are done at 15, always let the other guys commit a mistake first
also I'm pretty sure solo is a separate queue

>>723618246
You get a lot of xp by just sitting in the match doing nothing. I see no reason why you can't loot a bit then go afk for 25 minutes then leave. Chances are everyone else is gone well before then.

Can’t you faggots shit on this turd with a non jeet twitter screen cap thread? Fuck these niggers polluting this board

>>723618494
now this is what i call gameplay
>sit afk for 25 minutes then leave

playeres truly tend to optimize the fun out of a game.
the problem is the fun is hard to find in this one.
dying would be much less of a hassle if you could easily respawn and not spend most of your time in loading screens and videos trying to hide the excessive load times

When is it getting added?

>>723604769
pirate is actually a ruski dodging draft
also x is planning on remove monetization

>>723618646
Because its a shit game. All extraction games are stupid.

Duck is coming for you.

I uninstalled this after 3 hours
Give me one reason to reinstall it and keep playing this beta

>>723619279
>fully singleplayer
>isometric/topdown which is the best camera angle
>damage numbers
>simple loot autism that doesnt require opening a fullscreen interface
and that's a sale. thanks marketer

>>723619472
You know what else fills that criteria?
Empty Shell
You know what game nobody cares abput and is totally irrelevant?
Empty Shell
Seeing the connection anony?

>>723619469
In about a year and a half it'll be a good game, we've just gotta get past the launch period where 90% of the devteam is dropped and the remaining publisher-fucked team churns content out at a snail's pace.

>>723603334
You should be afraid. Afraid of Americans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT3cERVRoQo

>>723619469
i quit after 20 minutes
it made me remember why i can't stand the meme royale genre, it's so fucking boring

>>723619472
Duckov is a good game, I've been playing it all weekend instead of ARC

someone make mods for this game to play as nikkes fighting raptures

Bot difficulty is fine, but they spot you WAY too easy. If I'm within 100 meters of a bot, even if I'm crouched still in a bush they'll instant spot me. Even my friends commented on it.
The only change I need.

>>723608352
>>723608996
TT2?

>>723620525
The second test test; it was better than the gameplay with this Server Slam.

what a shit game with a fantastic premise and performance

>>723615565
Define dithered.

>>723602356 (OP)
They do this on purpose.

lol. reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1oagvwj/dear_embark_please_explain_or_undo_this_graphical/

>>723620701
How was the gameplay different

>>723620724
It's hard to say what makes the game bad though. All the pieces seems to be there

>>723620779
>500 updoots asking for more FOG
those liberal fucks are so out of their minds

>>723620835
Shield recharging use to happen all at once after a slow and loud recharge.
You could change shields after winning engagements so if there was an upgrade, it felt rewarding if you won a fight or found something.
Augments are new and kinda shit. A lot less safe pockets / inventory space / utility space.
A lot of guns shoot and feel different now like the shotgun.
Arcs have more hp and do more damage now. Also more on the map flying in static positions?
Characters feel like they move around a lot faster like jumping, interacting, climbing? But maybe placebo.
A whole lot less common sandbox elements like ziplines and grappling tools.. Feels like most sandbox utility stuff is pretty rare now.
You use to be able to buy and take a raider extract often.

>>723619279
>>723619472
Wait is that actually real? I thought people were memeing when they said Duckov.

>for out final beta 2 weeks before the release, let's cut out all th content in the game, content we've already shown in previous betas
swedes sabotaging swedes or nexon sabotaging the west, call it

>>723620835
>>723621049
Plus with the graphics downgraded, atmosphere and immersion is significantly diminished. Less particle effects when shooting and hitting people. Sound even seems worse which affects gameplay.

>>723621224
It's always Nexon anon, come on now.

>>723619628
>In about a year and a half it'll be a good game
nobody will be playing arc raiders in a year and a half from now

>>723621238
>Sound even seems worse which affects gameplay.
I do believe footsteps are worse; they're much harder to hear, now, and audio in general has less fidelity.

>>723621238
>significantly diminished
Did it run the same?

>>723621049
Those are just incremental changes bro, it's not gonna make or break the game.

>>723620878
wdym its hard? it's a 3rd person shooter that doesn't block vision of players if your character model cant see them, promoting passive camping and hiding playstyle that will almost instantly kill the game

>>723621301
>I do believe footsteps are worse
footsteps are audible based on weight of the loadout
a scav with a kettle and a few bullets makes almost no sound
a fully kitted out guy with 49.5/50kg pack sounds like a fucking garbage truck rolling around a neighborhood

>>723620725
Repeating minor patterns defined by math, in this case, for creating 1-bit alpha masks which alternates every frame, causing a lot of visual noise. Aka shit UE5 devs rely on TAA to blur for them, instead of properly resolving textures/meshes with translucent/transparent parts to their textures/vertices.

This game is about to be the biggest flop of all time.

>>723621387
I feel like you'd say even a retard could understand that, but I don't.

I hated this game starting out. Gave it a 2nd try and then wound up having a lot of fun when I just played like a complete faggot.

I like the stun mine especially. Free kill every time.

>>723621470
I predict launch to be under 100k players and then drop to 20k active after 1 week, then dead with "why is matchmaking taking so long" "where is everyone? I didnt see anyone in my map for several games now" posts beginning by week 3.

>>723621509
>having a lot of fun when I just played like a complete faggot
This is the only way I can have fun in multiplayer games these days

>>723621573
It'll be just like Wildgate's progression from open beta to launch.

>>723621470
No, it won't even come close to Concord. But it's going to die and pretty quickly at that, I think everyone can see that.

>>723621319
I never claimed it would? They just wanted to know about gameplay differences. I'm not the op >>723620835 but I do think the gameplay was a bit worse overall for me. Lots of small changes that paint a completely different game.

>>723621706
Why do you think they did the changes

I think its pretty fun the pvp is intense and I like the world and tech design. I think the actual players look like faggot niggers doe, even the shop npcs are: non binary robot, gook, blind afrikan girlboss. I think I'll buy it theres not much fun slop releasing lating

>>723621318
server test ran worse lol

>>723609023
Tarkov's gameplay is like half waiting for a Facebook game timer and half clicking examine in a shop
Pity since the shooting part can actually be fun with everyone having low tier gear

>>723621739
>lating
lately*

>>723621746
So the graphics are worse and it runs worse too?
Wowee

>>723617879
They only implemented PvP because they didn't know how to make the game interesting and keep the players playing. You don't have to create as much content when you just make the players the content.

>>723621730
Didn't understand what made TT2 special or overcooked by over-correcting on feedback? Music is worse too. They could have just released TT2 as-is and made more content instead of randomly adding a bunch of dialogue, visual fluff, and gamey changes.

>>723612928
I mean, dice started in Sweden, and embark was founded by former battlefield devs, so what's your point?

>>723621805
Nexon forced them to turn it into an extraction shooter. They already had the game mostly finished and ready to go, but asian playtesting/market testing revealed that nobody liked it in those markets. Nexon gave them ultimatum to pull the plug or overhaul it.

They spent the last 2 or 3 years ripping apart the game and putting it back together with the most generic extraction shooter elements imaginable, because Nexon told them to.

This game was supposed to come out in 2022btw.

Are they recycling chunks of land in this? Feels like I keep seeing the same arrangements for exits & buildings.

>>723621049
You can swill swap a shield, but I don't think anything except the starting green small shield is available, at least I haven't seen any. I had to after my broke (as in 0 durability) during a match

Who exactly is the game made for?
I like the finals and find that it's a pretty neat take on arena team-based competitive PVP shooters but I don't entirely the point of ARC Raiders. Sure, it's well done but I don't think the majority of players engage with the "loot and extract" genre that much.

>>723622106
anon...

>>723622109
You need a special augment to wear a higher shield which you can't swap in raid.

>>723602356 (OP)
>make a cool artstyle
>make all characters cripplingly ugly anyway
What the fuck is even the point then.

>>723622129
I mean, it's definitely more popular than the "get a box, take it to another box, then wait a timer to prevent others from stealing it" genre

>>723622059
Really sad actually. I was really looking for some standard looter shooter.

>hunting giant robots with a group of 8 people
>tethering mechanics to bring down robots
>jump pack for vertical maneuvers

Never forget what they took from you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuftkDxjGT4

>>723622374
They probably figured Helldivers 2 couldn't be beat, so they pivoted.

This being a 3rd person extract shooter is pants on head retarded. It not only encourages camping but the shooting is hampered by it. The robots are so uninspired, I thought they looked cool before playing myself but they’re just annoying to fight with all of them falling under stereotypical enemy archetypes. Looting cables and fabrics and nuts and bolts just feels like a time wasting slog.

>>723622489
It needs more "fuck you" enemy types like Hunt. 90% of shit in the map you can easily ignore or take down.

>>723622059
>Nexon forced them to turn it into an extraction shooter.
Yes because they know that players will drop the game after one month because they already beat all the content.

>>723622374
Proof that any of what you said was actually playable in the game and not just trailer gimmicks.

>>723622374

PVE isn't as engaging for streamers, tiktok or youtube shorts, they wanted the next streamer bait so pivoted to PVP

>>723622254
>definitely more popular
not really. Finals has very easy to understand attackl/defend PVP gameplay. There's loads of mechancs to be learned. The gameplay has depth. I don't feel the same way about arc raiders. It's a looter shooter with a neat premise but that's about it. Finals survived because it combined elements of Battlefield, CS, Ttitanfall and TF2, and it's a genuinely fun game. I don't see the fun in roaming around for 20 minutes then get beamed by bots or extract campers then lose your items.

>>723622669
It's also not as engaging for players.

>>723622129
the finals is shit though. it's like a worse version of apex legends in every way

>>723622693
>I don't feel the same way about arc raiders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5897y_0Tb8
>depth
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1nlf3u0/me_biggest_camper_ever_vs_french_streamer/

looks like there is a lot of bullshit you can do in this game once you have resources

my primary concern is "what is the point" in these 30 minute matches, of fortifying a building like this?

>>723602356 (OP)
>pajeet_nation

>>723622374
that actually looks like fun instead of the hide and seek extraction mess that the game is now. such a shame. could have been a fun coop shooter. i am really not a fan of the stamina in this game

>piss off Queen at a distance
>entire server wakes up and runs towards wherever it's shoop da whoopin'

>>723609094
Why does this mechanic trigger autists so much? It's like complaining that a gun uses bullets

>>723603180
>>723603334
nah, it's yuros. yuros invented trannies

>>723623093
because it adds nothing but tediousness. but that's survival and crafting mechanics in general for you. where is the fun in constantly having to replace basic tools?

>>723604665
that's yurop, you are thinking of yurop

>>723622848
that second clip was pretty cool
but the ttk makes it seem like a battle of attrition

>>723622787
>the finals is shit though
no, it's really good now
>worse version of apex legends
Apex is a BR. Finals is not. Completely different games.

I'd probably like the gameplay loot more if it was tackling combat related objectives for rewards, rather than the loot focus which drags down the first 5-7min of every match. I'm getting PUBG flashbacks.

>>723608098
That's opt in only

>>723621739
Nikita Buyanov's Magnum Opus and genre defining game, Escape From Tarkov, releases the 15th of November though! Or if you want a low commitment PvE game, Escape from Duckov.

>there's already cheaters
This game's gonna go the way of Tarkov, isn't it?
>>723602356 (OP)
The available costumes are kinda shit too, there's only one that covers your character's ugly face

>>723623356
>Completely different games.

nope. the movement tech is pretty much a one to one copy from apex and you are playing in teams of 3 against other people. sure the objectives may be a bit different but they feel very similar. the finals has to have the most soulless art style i have seen in any game. was their goal to create a game with the most generic artstyle possible to appeal to the widest audience? and what is even up with those stupid team names "the socialites/ the jetsetters/ the vogues/ the overdogs/etc." the cringe is real

>>723602356 (OP)
Let's waste time on another stupid online looter shooter, exactly what i need in my life

>>723608239
kettle is underrated

>>723623954
>the movement tech is pretty much a one to one copy from apex
alright, now you gotta elaborate. Never got that much into apex but I don't see how a static, wide-open BR game and a 3v3v3 arena shooter with destruction can have anything in common in terms of movement

>>723605168
The Russian pyramid scheme: the video game. Congrats

>>723602356 (OP)
>extraction shooter
Who cares?

I installed Arena Breakout just to check it out and my first match against bots I found a Terminator arm with a 1.4mil value and immediately dipped. My second match I think there might have been another actual player because I didn't hear the NPC chatter I just got lit up, still managed to get out though.

>>723624107
>how can games with different game modes have anything in common in terms of movement

this is the question you are asking. i dont see how the game mode or the map has anything to do with comparing the movement. there isnt really anything more to say other than that the finals took a lot of the movement tech from apex legends and put it in their game e.g. jump pads, zip lines, crouch slides, etc.

>>723623115
Euros also invented america, my hamburger friend.

>>723624228
Why does v hate extraction shooters

Vomit inducing design

>>723624245
I tried really hard to enjoy this game because I appreciate all the QoL it has over Tarkov but holy fuck it seriously has the worst netcode of any shooter I've ever played and that makes high stakes gameplay pure fucking cancer
also the bots are too retarded and boring to fight and the maps are small so you just have team fights in the exact same locations every game.
fuck dude it was so close to being fun

>>723624375
The bots did seem pretty anemic which is what led me to believe it was another dude. They mostly just stand their saying their canned voice lines and let me plink them in the head before dying.

>>723624279
nah, Americans invented America. yuros invented troons

>>723624261
apex is a game with bunny hopping and a vertical wall climb that is over 10 feet. are jump pads and zip lines really how you define a games "movement tech"?
guy who has only seen boss baby getting boss baby vibes ass moment

>>723624510
Brother are you ok?
You understand the actual native americans were wiped out right?

>>723624292
because it's just battle royale designed to waste as much of your time as possible under the guise of difficulty

>>723624279
>>723624510
>invent a country
saar thread where we argue the needful I am true white brahmin

>>723624363
You take those words back, young rascal!

>>723623093
because it's usually not added in a way that promotes realism or adds strategy. it just adds tedium. gun ammo is realistic and prevents you from just spraying and praying all the time. fire emblem had a decent weapon degradation mechanic where you have to deal with weapon strength, rarity, damage and the fact you can only carry 5 weapons.
I'd say minecraft gets a pass more than other games because it's relatively pain free to replace your gear but weapon/tool degradation that just forces you to get more loot is just fucking tedious. like even in the FE games the the degradation mechanic only really affects like silver weapons and a handful of named legendary or named super effective weapons. it isn't like
>oh shit I need to stop playing and get a new sword
>>723624765
>t. esl
>>723624610
I never said the injuns invented America

>>723624831
I never once had a weapon break so I don't know how tedious you are imagining it to be but you are incorrect

>>723623901
>Escape From Tarkov
i would try it out but it doesn't work on linux but arc raiders does and im having quite a lot of fun even if the game is full of WOKE GAY NIGGERS

>>723624261
fucking retard

>>723608141
hoard what? Tomorrow everything gets wiped before release

why won't these mentally ill swede freaks say when the beta ends? gotta keep it a gay little secret until the last second

>>723624261
>the finals took
they took a lot of mechanics from different games. fucking MW19 had crouch slides and ziplines, does that mean it's a copy of apex too?

>>723625010
I wasn't commenting on this game specifically, I was commenting on why people hate certain "realism" mechanics like weapon durability in general and it's usually based on having to do busy work

>>723602356 (OP)
I understand this is supposed to be a server test and not a demo, but holy shit Embark fumbled this so fucking hard. This is the first impression thousands of people will get of the game, and it sucks, I have no fucking idea why they locked so much progression, increased difficulty and didn't polish anything before the test, they lost so many potential buyers, me included.

>>723612864
Okay but just because the intend of the developers is that doesn't mean the actual players are going to play like that. It just doesn't work

>>723624731
the point of a game is to have fun playing it, not muh progression. If you think you wasted your time because you lost your loot, then you shouldn't play videogames.

>>723625165
are you retarded? Literally by just opening the steam announcement.
>This test is running from October 17th through the 19th

>>723624375
>worst netcode
it's a fucking server stress test you moron, it's supposed to stress the servers before release, the bad netcode and connection problems are to be expected

Fyi, when downed, you can still use a computer to exit.

>>723624375
>so you just have team fights in the exact same locations every game.
Which is why I hate its Fortnite/Apex approach to "this area has high loot this round!" shit, instead of having loot just spread out across the whole map so you're incentivized to explore, or just go on a killing spree.

>>723625697
read the reply chain before replying you subhuman dick sucking moron. so desperate to defend this game.

>>723622374
when the entire genre of the game changes during development, you know it's fucked...

>>723625697
>It's meant to be dogshit

>>723602356 (OP)
It's made by Sweden

>>723608098
he's russian and I hope putin finds him soon

>>723625963
if the servers aren't stressed during a stress test what's even the point. They're not doing this to make you enjoy the game, this is not a demo or a beta, it's a test and you're participating to help them. We can agree it was not a good idea to use a stress test to present the gamer to everyone, but that's another discussion.

>>723625534
There are plenty of games that offer more fun, which is why these games have to have progression and reward systems to keep people addicted to their game instead of just playing something else.

>>723611865
>>723612558
>>723612864
I sincerely believe you guys are right and this is what people would do, cooperate in the face of disaster, but modern media/societal narrative/post COVID thought has poisoned people's minds.
It reminds me of that narcissist researcher that had an experiment to put 10 or so people on a boat, all alone for months, and see how fast people would get aggressive and degenerate into savagery and alpha male behavior.
Turns out everyone got along great and he was the asshole, and the other folk wanted to throw him in the ocean, though they were too nice to do so

>>723626095
people forgot why they play videogames and just fixated on little numbers on their screen going up, it's honestly sad.

>It's PvPvE
>PvP fans won't like it because it's 3rd person corner peeking simulator where who has the best shields and weapon wins
>on top of having to dodge the arcs that can spot you through thick foliage form 100 meters
>and when you do get into fights, should you die, you launch a massive fucking flare in the sky that signals to everyone on the map "HEY, THIS TEAM IS DOWN A DUDE!!! COME KILL US QUICKLY BEFORE HE'S REZZED!!!"
>PvE fans won't like it because while they're fighting boss level arcs, they can get potshotted by 3rd partying teams
>the ammount of noise and restources you use will almost always guarantee some dickhead will be nearby, ready to kill you and steal your shit
>teaming up with random enemies will also be a challenge because either they don't want to help you and will avoid you OR (most likely scenario) they'll just shoot on sight
>best of all
>loot isn's shared, even amongst teammates, so if anyone needs a specific item that spawns in low quantities, you'll get fucked over.
this game makes NOONE happy.
Oh and it will have a ranked mode, because lol, why not?

The fix to third-person would be greying out the section of the screen your player model is physically unable to see, to signal that enemies/players will not be visible at that point in time.

>>723626432
not to mention that you will spawn into a round super close to enemies in a game where enemy encounters should be avoided to a certain degree

>>723625534
>If you think you wasted your time because you lost your loot, then you shouldn't play videogames.

really, this is the angle you slop slurpers are going with. fucking really? okay, lets frame your stupid bullshit like this then:

half of my time being spent walking across empty stretches of land for long periods is boring

>DURRR VIDEO GAME WASTE TIME ANYWAY STOP PLAYING BIDEO GAME WASTE TIME FUN

degradation mechanics are annoying and not fun.
there's no strategy or engagement, just a boring ass time wasting material sink.

>DURRR VIDEO GAME WASTE TIME ANYWAY STOP PLAYING BIDEO GAME WASTE TIME FUN

loot being mostly junk or crafting items like cables, fabric, and bolts doesn't feel rewarding or fun

>DURRR VIDEO GAME WASTE TIME ANYWAY STOP PLAYING BIDEO GAME WASTE TIME FUN

no one likes spongey NPC enemies. even the weak points take longer then they should.

>DURRR VIDEO GAME WASTE TIME ANYWAY STOP PLAYING BIDEO GAME WASTE TIME FUN

opening a box and waiting for items to slowly appear one by one fucking sucks

>DURRR VIDEO GAME WASTE TIME ANYWAY STOP PLAYING BIDEO GAME WASTE TIME FUN

claiming that progression not being the point in a fucking loot-based crafting game with resource management only reinforces the fact that this genre is entirely redundant.

just play a battle royale. it's literally the same experience but the time wasting survival wannabe bullshit is either lessened tenfold.

>>723626575
that too, i've seen so many people spawn near those annoying arcs that call backup and you're dead within 3 minutes because a rocketeer came by

>>723626625
you don't have to have a melty because you don't like the game. I'm not going to respond to every point you made and correct you, but I hope you'll leave this thread for both our sakes.

>>723626625
just because you start shaking irl when getting into gun fights doesn't mean the rest of us do

I don't like game where 30 mins of progress can be wiped in 5

>>723626824
I don't like games where no progress is ever lost because of constant handholding autosaves

>>723602356 (OP)
All the faces are male because they know women wouldn't survive as a raider.

>>723602356 (OP)
This playtest is the first time I'm able to play, are all the youtubers paid shills?
They hyped this shit up like its the best game of the decade (they did the same with the finals, curiously)
Its just generic dogshit, indistinguishable from every other extraction shooter.
The UI is terrible designed for tabled 90% wasted space garbage.
All the weapons are inaccurate, low dmg, low mag trash thats not fun to use.
The entire match is running around collecting gray metal scrap for recycling and shooting amazon drones.

Anyway my default was this

>>723626950
I have seen so many niggers call the game "generic" in the last day as if there is some secret huge amount
of extraction shooters with physics based robots that everyone seems to know about except me.

>>723627073
because when you're not fighting the cool robots you're doing the same shit every other extraction shooter offers

>>723627073
Man dont act like having some spider bots turns this into a one of a kind master piece.
These robots arent even fun to fight, you either clap the drone out of the air immediately with the bolty or get ass raped by it circling you endlessly.
This isnt a "fight robots" game in the first place, its just fucking pvp loot collecting, the bots just exist to give you a reason to shoot and expose your location to other players.

>>723627116
this game feels more setup for pvp. every other extraction shooter i've played feels like a sneak simulator but this one everyone is running balls deep. it's a lotta fun

>>723626950
>ui is terrible
this how you know it's bait

>All the weapons are inaccurate, low dmg, low mag trash thats not fun to use.
git gud your complaint is you suck at using the weapons

>The entire match is running around collecting gray metal scrap for recycling and shooting amazon drones. no the entire game is to loot rare areas and avoid amazon drones.

>>723627186
nah its gonna be a "fight robots" game too. there's pve bosses that aren't gonna be braindead ai bulletsponge bullshit like tarkov bosses

>>723627186
>These robots arent even fun to fight
subjective. they are more fun to fight than most shooter enemies because of the physics. I think the way the robots give away player positions is good. more interesting that fighting some human NPC in ABI or a zombie in Hunt.

and yes, you loot to make loadouts. that's the genre. complaining about looting in an extraction shooters is like complaining about weapon pickups in an arena shooter. like just play a different game. I don't understand this trend of people complaining about what games are not instead of talking about what they are. discourse is completely dead.

>>723627287
honestly, if there were more time - I think the bots are more fun than most players

>>723603334
they are worse - 80% fat, 40% non-white

>>723627073
generic sums up the game perfectly, so does bland and mediocre

>>723627418
just say "mid" if you want to say absolutely nothing of substance. saves a lot of letters.

>>723627468
MID Raiders

>>723624082
holy fuck you're right. the "good guys" look like ass

>>723627283
>nuhuh XD
What the fuck are you even saying man

>>723626950
>They hyped this shit up like its the best game of the decade (they did the same with the finals, curiously)
Finals is an actually good game if you bother to learn how to play. I don't see the same depth with arc raiders. There's no movement, no differing playstyles. If there are, the demo doesn't show any.

>>723627581
how could any human possibly have trouble understanding that post. why are you even posting if you cannot parse basic written language?

>>723627337
>and yes, you loot to make loadouts. that's the genre. complaining about looting in an extraction shooters is like complaining about weapon pickups in an arena shooter. like just play a different game. I don't understand this trend of people complaining about what games are not instead of talking about what they are. discourse is completely dead.
Point is the loot and mechanics behind it arent interesting, this shit is run of the mill but influencers act like its something special.
You drag shit into your inventory and fight drones until people show up, and then you fight those people with rusted piece of shit guns.

>>723627337
>I don't understand this trend of people complaining about what games are not instead of talking about what they are.

because we have a past reference point, and that is this game's current iteration is blatant retroactive trend-chasing.

the unique part, the physics-based robots, was a leftover from when the game was something else. now imagine if they focused on that strength entirely instead of the robots being background filler for a run of the mill pvp extraction game.

>>723622182
All flat af too to not offend trannies. Body Type A/B.

Won't touch this woke shit.

>>723627727
looting is the mechanic needed to simulate being a scavenger using scavenger guns. if you can't understand that then you're not understanding the genre.

>>723609023
The whole genre is a trick to make people who never played good videogames believe that they're having fun while doing the most boring fucking shit imaginable.

>>723627186
I think they are supposed to be like the enemies in Forever Winter, avoided at all costs.

ferro with silencer is comfortably the best gun in the game

a rattler on standby in case things get close quarters goes pretty hard too though

>>723602356 (OP)
Leftist game, no beauty allowed.

>>723627806
>its designed to be shit
Yeah ok, and that justification magically makes it fun and engaging?
For the record I think looting in tarkov, dark&darker and hunt showdown is boring too.
Its all just filler for the real game; pvp, but arc raiders does not have good pvp.
>>723627830
The big ones for sure, small drones are easily clapped and looted for the workbench alloy

>>723627727
what the fuck is "something special" to you? should there be a different way of adding an item to you inventory besides dragging it? should you open a console window and type /collect instead? what are you even fucking asking for, seriously? When people play counter strike all they do is buy the same guns and peek the same angles. do you sit around like a fat fuck talking about how generic that is? that's the game. that's the part people are playing to enjoy.

if you don't like it that's fine, but shut the FUCK up with your braindead faggot opinions and your desperate attempt to present them as some kind of fact. you and every cocksucking mong like you has destroyed video game discussion. there's nothing of any value that has ever come out of your empty head and I wish it would get smashed like a fucking pumpkin for the holiday

>>723627907
You havent even seen the drag queen medbot trader

>>723624765
This might shock you but most europeans are not native english speakers. There is also such a thing as using a term that is technically incorrect because someone earlier in the conversation used it also

>>723627967
ESL Melty, my comment about influencer hyping the game up obviously wasn't solely about the fucking inventory management. idiot.
This is astroturfed dogshit like the finals and it will end the same way, likely even sadder because its not f2p

>>723624831
>I never said the injuns invented America
Yes, I am well aware, I am saying that the native, "true" Americans were "indians". What you call the founders of America were Europeans. In ethnicity as well as nationality

I liked Call of Duty's DMZ mode.. that was an extraction shooter.

>>723628117
I think that's all I'll play when the next one comes out next year - if its as good as original DMZ release

>>723628095
I'm responding to your specific points as coherently as possible to avoid any confusion and you still managed to call me an ESL for trying to engage with the points YOU brought up.
I don't give a single fuck if your YouTube boyfriend loves or hates the game. I'm just trying to talk about what I played while you want nothing more than to shitfling meaningless words like "generic" around.
Either talk about the game or not but this is fucking retarded.

>>723622374
>co-op PvE extraction game where you fight giant robots

COME HOME WHITE MAN

the bots are actually retarded and ruin pvp
>dare to shoot another player
>bot shows up and starts firing missiles at you
who the fuck thought this was a good idea? not only are you risking pvp, risking 3rd party pvp from making so much noise you also get a robot up your ass that fires missiles that do a gigantic amount of damage and FURTHER alerting 3rd parties to your location.

meh. the looting aspect of this is dogshit anyway.

>>723628491
Maybe check your surroundings before engaging the opposition, given all of the obvious robots you see well in advance, while indoor ones are barely a threat.

>>723628305
No you pretended to be retarded by purposefully misunderstanding what I said and throwing a fit
The game is shit, no better than arena breakout in any way that matters, it'll fail like the finals.

>>723628108
no, washington and jefferson were Americans

>>723628491
the AI will stop shooting if you bring smokes... you do bring smoke grenades right?

>>723628570
and if i kill a player outside? fuck me for engaging in pvp in this pvp game i guess

>>723628572
>no better than arena breakout in any way that matters
true
>it'll fail like the finals
maybe
but you still haven't said a single fucking thing about the experience of playing the video game. your posts are generic, mediocre, boring, and shit. sorry I can't elaborate as to why, it's beyond the scope of our conversation apparently.

I'd probably like the game if it was more dynamic. Eg. Say if certain robots could search through walls, and some of them were capable of actually destroying the environment to get to you.

Or being able to bait them onto other players without need of one of those noise making grenades, which they focus on before other players anyways.

>>723628696
>but you still haven't said a single fucking thing about the experience of playing the video game
I did before you ever replied to me, not my problem that you are too dumb to read the chain

>>723628769
Thats implying this is a robot fighting game, but its pvp.
Robots are there to facilitate player engagements, otherwise people would just sneak around and never fight.

>>723622704
PvE is larger than PvP

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>>723627337
>complaining about looting in an extraction shooters is like complaining about weapon pickups in an arena shooter.
Except arena shooters can have lootable weapons and non-lootable weapons.

Genres don't exist retard.

Played 1k hours of the finals
I have no faith in embark

>>723628772
here's your shitty post as a reminder since you seem to have short term memory loss
>Its just generic dogshit, indistinguishable from every other extraction shooter.
meaningless shitflinging
>The UI is terrible designed for tabled 90% wasted space garbage.
I agree that the UI wastes a lot of space but I assume they need the full screen obfuscation for balancing reasons. looting is supposed to be a risk if you aren't safe and this is par for the course in all extraction shooters
>All the weapons are inaccurate, low dmg, low mag trash thats not fun to use.
I do not agree about low damage or inaccurate. I hit ridiculous shots that I honestly shouldn't be able to at these distances and without optics. They do have low capacity but that's just how the game is balanced. Disliking this is a fair opinion.
>The entire match is running around collecting gray metal scrap for recycling and shooting amazon drones.
and yeah that's the genre. Might as well say "call of duty is just about running around shooting guys who endlessly respawn". that's the point.

>>723628931
Finals is good though. You just need to be a huge BF rush nerd to enjoy it.

>>723628931
What sucks is none of the assets they're making for ARC would be applicable to Finals. Eg. Making new maps faster and shit, due to Finals requiring every asset to be built specifically for its destruction modeling.

>>723629050
plays absolutley nothing like rush in BF

>>723629076
the only good thing is the destruction system and there absolutley no integration of it. Granted, Arc was in development much longer than the finals, hell it began even before the finals.

57k, not bad

>>723629182
Not sure if I'll ever finish those achievements off. Stupid rng with meteor jump pad is aids. The rest is just the 50mil cash alongside other grinds that'll finish otw to it.

>>723603180
Huehuehue, burgers mad
>>723603334
Ye

>Pajeet Pirate

Saar pls feed me material i owe many rupees for the cow i bought as my wife my dear saar!

>>723628382
>one year in early access
>literally nothing changed
are they ever releasing this garbage?

>>723602356 (OP)
>Face: FACE 05
Dude blatantly intentionally chose a male face with a female hair and yet you fucking retards will still repost this obvious indian ragebait.
God can we please ban twittercap threads

>>723629312
>literally nothing changed
Clearly it was to prepare more shit behind the scenes to drip-feed it as 'content updates' to keep player attention once the numbers start dipping a month later.

>>723629326
everyone gets a random "default" character when you first launch the game but poojeet doesn't understand that

>>723608098
Yeah we'll see.

don't buy the medium shield if you think you want to full send it in the last few hours, you can't even equip it.

>>723629531
you need to equip the combat perk thing first. looting bag doesn't fit it.

>People bitching that others want an optional PvE mode
I give this game 3 months
>>723628382
I tried this shit this morning and it kept resetting my resolution, looked extremely shit(122gb btw) AND any action i did had a delay of 2-3 seconds while the enemies were slapping faster than i could reload
>>723629531
Hover on the modules, it says which tier of shield you can equip
i think the combat one let you use it

>>723622374
>Didn't perform well in several tests with asians
>Chinamen don't work together and aren't the sort of bugs to cooperate so testing right off the bat was flawed
>Chinamen publisher demanded a reworked game to force PvP extraction so chinamen can out-cheat one another with their subscriptions
Same fate as DUNE Awakening, sad. Chinamen looking for another game to farm money with RMT and cheat subs.

>>723629586
>>723629594
>needs free loadout for purchase
where do you even get this

>>723629630
Do a Free loadout run, if you extract you keep it
i think one of the shop also sells it

>>723624082
Same devs that ruined BFV with including cripples and women, 'if you do not like it, do not buy it.'
This is what the cash shop in The FInals bought you.

>>723629630
you get one when you extract with a free loadout but I'm pretty sure you can also craft the main loadout things? I can't remember

2.45hours left, anyone want to send it?

>>723621224
everything about this project screams mismanagement or sabotage
why would you release it between the two biggest shooters on the market when the game was already finished in fucking may and I had less problems back there than I did now
why would you release a public test with fuckall content but still featuring all the fucking keys for locked maps and blueprints that are useless
I can understand when people just drop the game after this test because you dont have to engage in half the mechanics and managements in this test
and the last point is the disgusting DEI trailer they released
its like they painfully dont want people to play this

>>723628643
its part of the game, dummy. imagine being ass mad you have to pay money when landing on a space with houses in monopoly

Bare in mind THIS game was their main game, The Finals was just a side project.

>>723629419
>early access
>drip-fed content
>UE5 "optimization"
That's gonna be a no from me dawg. The least they could do was make a solid, polished vertical slice demo to showcase their ideas for a full release down the line. The soundtrack and artstyle is not enough to carry the game.

>>723629802
>The Finals was just a side project.
pretty solid game for a side project. 1.0 release was rough but they turned it around last year. Not sure if they have a dimilar plan or arc raiders since it does require a lot more player investment.

>>723629927
they still haven't figured out game balance and tournament mode spawns man

>>723602356 (OP)
Cutest jewish woman

>>723618494
>I see no reason why you can't loot a bit then go afk for 25 minutes then leave.
Well here's one: I'm playing a GAME.

Who wants to form a party and camp an extract so we can get lots of loot before the game ends

>>723602356 (OP)
>do night raid
>have to walk across entire map to exfiltrate
>100m away i hear someone calling the lift
>hauling ass
>see dude is trying to shake off 3 different drones
>walk in and take the lift while the guy is outside getting downed
>he tries to crawl in
>doors close in his face
only fun moment i had with my 4 hours played so far

>>723628491
>meh. the looting aspect of this is dogshit anyway.
Isn't looting dogshit in every looter shooter? I never heard anyone praise glorified tetris mechanics.

I saw a trailer recently for a game that seemed to copy Hunt except with even older, shittier guns (muskets?) and a bigger focus on melee. I forgot the name, you can probably find it if you want.

>>723630298
Not every EL, I hate this deliberate 'wait until you see everything' meme. DMZ - although the crates never hold anything more than a max of a few items all in a row, you get to see all items and weapons inside it immediately.

>>723629982
>haven't figured out game balance
you really can't since there is so much cheese unless you make everything equally as powerful
>tournament mode spawns
40 seconds left on the cashout and you get spawned 150m away from it, with barely enough time. I'd rather just sit it out.

>>723630389
to add
40 seconds left on YOUR cashout. Not to mention if you have to plug to save your second place

>>723629685
>you can also craft the main loadout things
you can only crafting the looting bag

>>723630381
>DMZ
is DMZ even a looter shooter? Felt more like a light BR with occasional gear swaps.

>>723629816
>UE5 "optimization"
This and Finals are the only UE5 games I can play on my 1060gtx that don't make me want to tear my eyes out. Optimization is the last of its problems. That said, they could have easily went with UE4 for better performance, since there's nothing dynamic going on with this game that warrants UE5's features like Finals did.

>>723630528
Well desu you mostly loot weapons/gear you could say those are the most valuable things, but the maps are so vast and you have like 20mins until radiation pushes and an additional 10 minutes if you take final extract. It does have quests that make you fight ai or loot certain objects so in that regard you feel its more of a looter.

DMZ as opposed to WZ simply lets you meander around more - there's really no 'call' to fight anyone.

This would've been a sick solo/coop PvE game, I'm mad.

>>723630662
some random I queued with showed me this spot it's pretty sick. think you're guaranteed to get a blue or green weapon in there

>>723630563
>This and Finals are the only UE5 games I can play
Agree, but my reply was regarding the forever winter. Like you said, Embark are god-tier at optimization despite their games running on UE5.
>UE5 features
it's likely not about features but licensing costs

>>723602356 (OP)
Attractive women don't exist (because they hurt my feelings (because I'm ugly as fuck (I'm a female game dev))).

>>723630762
in about 8 runs, i got a purple shotgun, 2 of the blue lever action rifles, the blue handgun, and various green/blue/purple attachments. green weapons were very common every time. all the weapons spawn as level 3.

>>723630662
I was really disappointed when I got up there for the first time that there's literally nothing and not even alternative way down. They could add a ladder that's too high of a jump on the bottom so you can't climb up

>>723629605
>>723629660
>>723630701
Any pajeet shill response to these?

>>723630690
I genuinely think that's what it was intended to be - it feels like there's a living game underneath 'this' but they were told to make it a Br-lite battlepass thing #120391230

>>723630701
Embark uses Metahuman. If anything the near complete lack of white hairstyles is the most offensive thing. They had a fuckload in Finals, nothing was stopping them from porting those over.

>>723630662
They gotta fix this or the game is going to be completely fucked at launch since it won't even be a season problem because there are no forced wipes.

rocketeers are fucking scary bro they do assloads of damage and just dont die

anyone want to do night raid?

>>723631217
lure them close and use grenades

>>723631205
>>723631245

>>723630662
>even has drop down marked rooms
Copying Tarkov in every way they can

>>723629248
>white bandages in safe pocket

>>723611865
it's because originally the game was meant to be a purely coop pve game where the humans fight the robots.

>>723603334
Actual real answer: Depends
Fat burgers are always going to be ugly because they're fat but for the ones that aren't obese, very few are just naturally ugly in the face. Except blacks. They're almost always ugly, except for 0.1% of their women that hit the mutt lottery. Americans that are just a mix of different European/Anglo ancestries look normal.

>>723631453
I do that periodically when I bring the binoculars out

>>723612957
>other players are meant to be from other settlement
no, humanity all lives in Speranza, there will probably be some big bad human faction in the future but currently every raider comes from Speranza, they didn't bother to change the lore from when it was a PvE game

>>723611865
>why would you shoot someone in empty lawless no mans land when you could gun them down in the middle of the society instead

>>723631636
>no, humanity all lives in Speranza
the start of the game is you just wandering in

I had a lot of fun. Reminded me of the good old day z days. I missed the tarkov train though, so no idea how they compare. I wish it wasnt third person though.

>>723632250
almsot as if speranza is the only true safe place humans can stay...

>>723632402
nice head canon

>>723631974
because they all come from the same place? It's also implied you don't kill anyone, you "knock them out", they then somehow safely go back to speranza where evryone lives out happily togheter despite shooting at eachother when they're out lmao.

>>723632448
dude it's very clear they didn't think much of the lore when they switched from pve only to pvpve, the lore simply doesn't accomodate for humans fighting eachoter.

its always fun reading /v/ threads
you guys suck ass at games
its pretty funny

>>723632269
try arene breakout if you want a good first person extraction shooter

>>723632932
Oh reeeeally?
How about this then, huh?
I came in with a ferro and a couple of rounds, and I extracted with 50k.

I will be accepting you apology shortly.

>>723632946
"good" the design and map is there, but the severe lack of AI engagement and scarcity make it feel empty. They need like 3x more the AI

>>723632932
Hey nignog. Nobody cares how good people are at video games. The more time you spend in the thousands to one game, the more you are beholden to that company and even worse if you sink more than the price of admission to play it.

I won tournaments and made money playing CS in the 2000s at peak LAN parties and internet cafes in the west coast and here I am telling you that you're retarded, 20 years later. Being good at this game won't matter because right now the cheats are being developed for it using these beta and test runs for the third world asians to make a dime off your failure and make more money for the studio repurchasing accounts ad nauseam after getting banned. They already own and publish this game for themselves.

>>723633351
keep it down boomer

>>723628382
>Forever Shiter
Lmao, EA for over a year and almost literally nothing changed, still completely unoptimized and more than 95% of the playerbase is gone.
Last time i checked it was hitting 400 people, a Fomo based scam that requires you to keep loging in otherwise everything gets wiped from you save.

>>723616182
With your mic, retarded shitter.
>>723632932
SEA gacha subhumans are terrible at any game which requires fighting anything other than retarded bots, more news at 11.

>use free loadout
>get multiple kills and get out
>use custom loadout
>die instantly to the most stupid shit
egh

>>723634660
>enter completely empty
>sit on the rocks near the edge of the map with the longest extraction
>watch youtube while hearing players gank eachother extract camping
>pick up overflowing loot in the last 4 minutes
Poorly designed game scrapped up from left over PvE content. There's no reason to acquire mats if you don't spend then much.

how do I look?

>>723635376
ready

>did you enjoy the last round
>loved it
>what about pvp
>hated it even though i deleted 5 dudes with no effort
no need to thank me pvegods

>>723631453
does it matter?
he's not gonna be able to use the pink shit in this playtest anyway

>>723635571
I appreciate your service.
I do the same btw.

Easy fix to the genre is to have to zone shrink like in a BR. Not kill fog but huge robot waves directed by a commander you could kill if you are a bad enough dude.
Also 21 people is absolute minimum.

>>723636063
fuck off retard

>>723607705
>Get spotted by one of the strongest units in the game which is easily avoidable and has multiple visual and audio cues
>Somehow get one shot because you're not at full health for some reason
>Can't get revived because you have no friends
>Somehow safe pockets don't exist

Who are the people making all these posts about Arc Raiders? Is there actually a crack division of Indians being paid to shit on it or is the average player just this fucking stupid?

>>723636063
Nah, the genre is fine as is. The idea of making what you want during a match, no real "winner" is the appeal. You can go in with a hatch key, loot >9000 and make a profit plus do quests perhaps and get out easy.

you are using a ferro, right anon?

>>723636845
The Ferro to Anvil route is king. Ill sometimes use Ferro+Stitcher together though

>>723602356 (OP)
Is this a "body type A person" or a "body type B person"?

>>723636845
Kettle for players, Rattlers for bots

I think i've played enough of this to determine i'm not going to buy it

>>723638134
Its crazy that 10 hours last test, and nearing the same now, I feel the same. The actual PVP doesn't seem that fun, and later on its going to be who has the better insane gun.

>Second to last round
>all of us crash
>only me and one other reconnect
>run into another team 10 seconds later
>toss smoke
>flank
>shotgun blast him
>melee his friend who's confused
>his buddy runs out and melees me
>my teammate melees him
>take out drones
>check loot
>osprey and the AR
>both broken so I can't even use them plus <4mins left
>use my hatch key
fun

supposed to end at 8AMPST, but I guess I'm getting one more round in

I've never understood extraction shooters. What do you do with all that shit? It doesn't look like there's some clear end goal. Like in most multiplayer games you have to beat a boss or kill the enemy base or whatever. But in extraction shooters it looks like you're just looting trash to loot more trash.

>>723635041
>Poorly designed game
I would argue that all looter shotoers are poorly designed since extract campers are a problem on every single one.

>>723639235
If you think of killing people as robbing them of their time, that is the end game. Knowing you set people back hours from resources they've just lost is a pretty nice feeling
>>723639350
This is what is going to be the downfall when people get good, or desperate, since its third person. I've just been buying raider hatch keys when I can.

>>723602356 (OP)
Why would anyone play this AI slop in the first place?

There's only one white dude as an option, and he's old. Ridiculous

>>723639235
This game has a world boss but it only spawns on chance - I'd say that's worth trying out. I guess you're complaining to yourself so you own a vocal reason for not buying it or whatever

honestly, if a game makes reaching harder areas fun by collecting the gear and then entering it, it can be fun. But if its just one single map over and over and the difficulty doesn't vary - its just stale. This has some of that


desu the only real challenges are the bombers, leapers and the queen. There needs to be an area that's open but extremely difficult without any TOP gear.

>>723639235
>It doesn't look like there's some clear end goal
the end goal is, like all PVP games, to shit on people
but instead of it taking 30 seconds of your time, it now takes you 20 minutes to potentially nullify an hour of someone's gameplay effort. real scumbag behavior, I've no idea why people like these games.
>>723639484
>Knowing you set people back hours from resources they've just lost is a pretty nice feeling
do you genuinely have no other avenues in life that you NEED to shit on people's time in order for you to have a good experience?

>>723639646
>This game has a world boss
what do you get for fighting said boss? seems like a way to lose resources

>>723635376
You look like you need a new GPU.

>>723639507
Have they said outright how they're using it? With Finals, it was just for voicework, which they get authored voice packs for from a given VO, rather than dealing with union bullshit.

>>723612864
>everyone in this game LIVES in the same town.
>he thinks people who live in the same city dont kill each other

>>723614454
It's a a demo no shit they're not going to give you the entire game for free 2 weeks before it's released. Are people retarded?

I'm curious to see how this game handles veteran upgraded loadout vs. noob w/ free loadout, since that'll determine the game's longevity. Ideally the better loadouts would be more for dealing with the robots or tackling the bigger shit (eg. Queens), than murdering a player quicker.

>>723602356 (OP)
Soulless AI slop

>>723641052
White cities didnt

>>723641236
Nah its all murdering players quicker. You can get the better guns in this test from boxes, just can't make/repair them, and they will shred people. The energy weapons are definitely more for Arc but also tear shields quick

how do you get the free loadout for FREE, I remember it happening when I had no gear

>>723640218
>what do you get for fighting the endgame boss
>why would I use my resources for that
>man why is there nothing to do in this game

>>723641682
go to deploy, top of screen free loadout

>>723628108
Are you well aware that a country is not the same thing as the land it is founded on?

Just went in with zero supplies, if you even get one drone and it picks it up another -- you cannot hide from it at all unless you get a door to close. Literally they will never give up and you're just fucked

>>723641236
There really isnt going to be much from stopping squads with god loadouts rolling entire lobbies.

>game has no LoS checks for showing players
Shit will be a cheater's paradise since the server is sending everyone's location every tic, even if it's impossible to see them in any manner.

>>723642561
>LoS checks
what?

>>723642453
This is said with every extraction looter. It is possible to WAIT and third party those people btw

>rush to high tier loot area
>just the same blues I find everywhere else
huh

>>723640765
Yes, on their steam page.

>During the development process, we may use procedural- and AI-based tools to assist with content creation. In all such cases, the final product reflects the creativity and expression of our own development team.

It's hidden under the "READ MORE" button so it's obvious they're afraid people will crucify them for it.

>>723641748
In other extraction shooters you get the best loot for killing the toughest NPCs, low IQ brownbro...

>>723643193
I got quite a few purples out of those areas in the two days I played

>>723643370
I said "how" they're using it. They were up front as devs stating how they were explicitly using AI shit on Finals. The Steam page is never granular enough.

>>723643943
I've done like 12 raids and the only purple I found was in the tutorial. I've lost all interest.

>>723643974
You gotta ask them. They say they use it for content creation so they could have used AI to shit out all the assets in the game for all we know.

>>723644054
I just wish the odds of spawning near other teams was higher. Out of twenty runs I did today, only once I saw another team within 3 minutes.
We murdered them

On that note, proximity chat wasn't enabled this playtest was it? Not once did the voice chat menu show any players under the prox range list for me.

>>723643586
>The game is best in the starter areas
>I don't want to explore the harder areas
stay in the shallow area of the pool, okay?

the drones are such fucking bullet sponges holy shit how could they think it would be fun? So far the only good AI in a extraction shooter is Hunt Showdown and they're mostly all doable with melee FOR A REASON

>>723645032
Didn't you listen to the girlboss telling you to shoot at the propellers?

>>723643974
>>723643370
they've said multiple times they used a homemade AI algorithm to train the drones movement and make them react procedurally based on the damage they recieve, don't know if they used other types of AI to make assets but they'll never tell it

>>723603180
Obsessed

>>723645032
For lore reasons it makes sense why everyone lives underground afraid of the Arc. If you could walk around and beat them to death with a hammer, thats not exactly threatening.

>>723645101
Imagine if the tutorial was the same as the one in dead space

>>723645032
You're the reason yellow paint exists

>>723645032
Almost like there's incentive to find better gear..

>>723645032
You can destroy them in seconds with a fucking pistol
What are you on about

>>723645101
>shoot at the propeller of the small shitter with the machinegun (and that can kill you with only 2 salvos)
>now it moves even more erratically and makes it even more difficult hit the other propeller on the same side, all while it's spraying bullets everywhere.
>get tased by the bigger fucker with armored propellers that are essentially undestructible by anything that is't a ferro (that isn't the standard gun for scav runs for whatever reason, so it means that in scav runs you can die as soon as you spawn, because drones can also spawn 2 feets from your spawn point)
>the giant fucker appears and finishes you off with a salvo of missiles, because why not, it's not like you have anything to fight it with anyway.
Great game 10/10 design, super fun.

>>723645032
Hunt has the most boring and shit PvE of all pvpve games. you are an insane person and a proud shitter.

>>723646469
I understand that you are frustrated and are just baiting, but we both know the big fucker does not orbit shit randomly, but is bound to 2 (or 3) places on the current map. Same for the walking fuckers.

Also, if you are engaging them in an open field, that's on you. They are loud, present, and you have half an hour to do shit. Just don't run into them, if you don't feel like targeting the props with the free gear.

>>723646469
>armored propellers that are essentially undestructible by anything that is't a ferro
you genuinely fucking suck at this game and probably all video games. don't play it. fuck off.
also
>undestructible
jeet moment

>>723646730
Maybe he is german, or in general other german-like lang. Un is used instead of in for them.

>>723645850
>For lore reasons it makes sense why everyone lives underground afraid of the Arc
most people can't fight or hold a gun, even if they were super fragile drones, as long as a infinite number shooting fuckers go around the surface, the majority of people would prefer to avoid catching a stray bullet.
>>723646328
the onl ypistol available from the start is the hairpin, I want you to go inside a building filled with the exploding bots and defend yourself only with that
>>723646145
the ferro is the only gun useful against AI, there isn't any incentive to find it, it's literally the starter rifle.

>>723646907
the ferro is also the cheapest gun in the game. it costs the same as a single shield charger. 1 healing item.
fucking use it or not and shut up this is within your power.

>1 minute left for extraction
>we're a trio hauling ass to the last lift 500m away
>some lone rando spots us, we tell him we're heading to extract as we sprint past
>fucking retard stands there thinking for 5 seconds before opening fire on us 1v3 and getting instantly dropped
Why are people so stupid? He even had plenty of loot on him so it's not like he just had nothing to lose

so after today all the progress is lost when the game releases? Not even any exclusive skin for the beta participants like battlefield did?

>>723647291
yes, this shitty little limited beta won't carry over. no idea why retards keep asking this. and yes you'll get some gay little skin don't worry.

>>723647127
>it's not like he just had nothing to lose
we're in the final hours of the beta, we lose everything anyway so might aswell have as much engagements as you can.

>>723644214
it is enabled but you can switch with K between proximity and squad chat
there is no indicator which chat you are using though :^)

>>723647291
I have to redo all the quests? Fuck that I'm not buying it

what's the lore reason of everyone being Italian?

>>723647620
it's set in italy

>>723647127
probably a case, uh, how you say, cuka blyet

>>723647127
free test so a lot of thirdies

I still think its such a waste that it didn't take more from the division's survival mode, I feel like it'd be way more fun if it was just that. Regardless, the game right now is pretty fun but I'm a bit hesitant to give them my money due to how fucking ugly every single character is, I fucking hate game companies that pull this kind of shit

>>723647704
The buildings don't look very italian to me. Also they translated canteen as "cantina", which means cellar instead of wiring "mensa"

I wish it was first person. A third person extraction shooter just means campers corner peeking everywhere.

>>723619156
>also x is planning on remove monetization
oh god yes, please
ragebait is becoming too transparent

>>723645231
That's not "AI", that's just movement algorithms based on patterns.

>>723647494
>there is no indicator which chat you are using though :^)
I was using PTT, and prox chat shows an icon with an orange background. No idea about always-on plebs.

>>723647620
nobody in this game is italian
everyone is just larping as one for some reason
maybe the game is set in little italy or some shit

>>723647929
oh looky here we got a braimniac over here with his mensa

>>723647620
that's just cyberpunk

>>723648293
>plot twist reveals you're actually just a giant mafia family hiding underground and ARCs are FBI bots

>>723645101
With some guns its easier than others. Rattler is so garbage without upgrading+attachments. Better to ignore fliers