Thread 723658574

Do you install QOL mods for your first playthrough of a game?

no, for the same reason i don't use save states. just feels like it goes against the spirit of the game, even if it's fixing an objectively broken mechanic or something like that, i want to experience the game as it was released so i'm not just parroting some opinion

>>723658574 (OP)
Yes and it was bad

>>723658574 (OP)
Sometimes. Depends on the game and how cheaty the mods are.

>>723658574 (OP)
Lol Bloodborne is maybe the 2nd easiest Souls game. If you can't beat the game as is just give up gaming already

>Look up any video game on nexus mods
>sort by most popular
>Easy mode (600 000 downloads)
>Miyazaki style checkpoints (he invented checkpoints)
>Cheat menu
>Pet the dog

>>723658574 (OP)
Yes. I patched Monster Hunter G and the PSP games to be able to camera control with the second analogue stick

No panties is QoL so yeah

>>723658574 (OP)
Yes

>>723658574 (OP)
Some people don't understand the difference between quality of life and cheats. Like the lamp travel one, that's quality of life. Automatic vial and bullet restocks is a cheat, same with the no boss runback one.

>>723658574 (OP)
fuck no

No, because if you mod, you literally did not beat the game, and I prefer beating the games I play.

>>723660606
No boss runback just saves you time how is that a cheat

>>723658574 (OP)
I modded Silksong with always map, and respawning at the same stage when dying.

>>723660606
Congrats on understanding OP's true intentions

>>723658574 (OP)
no, but I do install nude mods.

>>723661712
The bosses difficulty is balanced while having the run back in mind.

>>723660606
Eh, I dont think I'd consider vial/bullet resocks a cheat. It isn't at all hard to farm vials, its just time consuming. By the time you might need to farm vials, killing the brutes near the bridge or doing easy chalices has almost no risk attached. As long as it doesn't give you more vials per life or anything.

fuck no, why do zoomers look for romhack of retro games to fix things like cameras.
>this camera is so clunky, i need to find a hack for dis shit no cap
First play the game how its meant to be played and then use mods/hacks on your second playthrough

>>723663612
Early 3D games have terrible cameras for navigating in a 3D space. They should be fixed

>>723663612
>why do zoomers look for romhack of retro games to fix things like cameras.
Buddy, look at all the millennials recommending Subsistence over the original because of the camera, and then jump into another thread and decry Twin Snakes against the original because of the camera.

>>723658574 (OP)
Depends on the game, but generally no.

Sometimes
Often on multiple playthroughs after playing it raw (like Dragon Age Origins, combat tweaks v323 for playthroughs after the original)
If it's a bethesda game or something though, 100%

>>723663612
Why do boomcucks insist on torturing themselves on shit instead of immediately modding something to your liking? Such servile jewgoycuck mentality smdh.

>>723658574 (OP)
everything but the lamp teleportation is for people that don't care about anything but the bosses

>>723658716
what if the original vision is shit? Take for example Fallout 4, essential improvements like the mod that shows you what you character actually says instead of "ironic", or the mods that makes the UI usable with a mouse, or the mod that makes dark places actually dark

What if there is a good experience hidden under laziness and retardation?

>>723658574 (OP)
I modded the shit out of Wilds for difficulty when it released. From HR onwards, the I replayed LR with the same mods.
Game was fun as hell, landing offsets actually mattered, even the GArkveld fight was sweaty

Did the same for DD2 but it was more simple. Just XP down, enemy strength up, player stats down (including carry)
Was really fun playing that way, every trip out of town felt like an expedition

>>723664406
>What if there is a good experience hidden under laziness and retardation?
there isnt
f4 is unfixable

>>723664582
Did DD2 not have the same Hard mode that DD1 had, where enemies were much more difficult but XP and Gold rolled in like candy?

>>723658574 (OP)
For me it's vanillakino only

>>723664696
Nah, nuthin. idk about now
I'd say it's still worth playing now with the mods, one of my favorite and most memorable playthroughs of a game the past 10 years.
Took me like 120hrs though lmao, apparently average finish times are ~60

The only mods I've used for a first playthrough was with Kingdom Come, and it was just a simple graphical optimization mod. then, 10 hours into the game, I got the mod that skipped the animation for picking herbs.

>>723658574 (OP)
Im bad at souls games, but no boss runback seems to invalidate the entire game. Half the difficulty was mastering getting back to the boss without expending resources so that you can learn the fight and make mistakes.
Or maybe that's just because I'm shit, idk.

>>723663612
most games aren't worth playing second time, there's too many games to play

>>723664913
Also half the enjoyment of exploring was unlocking shorter routes to make the boss runback easier.

>>723659978
Out of curiosity I looked this up; and sorting by downloads+all time this wasn't true for Fallout 4, NV, Skyrim, BG3, SV, CP2077 and Spiderman. The most popular mod is either smut, libraries or unofficial patches.

>>723659978
It is a weird feeling to realise that most people playing videogames don't actually like videogames

>>723658574 (OP)
only install fixes and sometimes cosmetic mods on subsequent playthroughs

>>723663356
Sure but you're gonna avoid doing that as much as possible so the experience is gonna be different
That's like saying giving yourself 20 levels at the start of every area is not cheating cause you could just grind for them anyway

>>723658574 (OP)
Only if I'm playing slop. I would never dare to install a "QoL" mod to a game I'm hyped. But also right now I'm only hyped for Nioh 3.

Depends on the game. I think a blanket "No" is fucking retarded.

Rimworld has plenty of actual good QoL shit, like Camera+ to zoom in more, new tabs that show more information like power being generated vs used, RPG inventory to make it easier to see what a colonist is carrying or has equipped, RimHUD makes the UI show more info on your colonists when clicking on them, shit like their status and stats.

I see zero issue using most of them that are actual QoL, RimHUD in particular.

Yeah.
>compass always active mod
>magnet always active mod
>health bar display
>respawn outside boss room after death
I love being able to fix the dev's mistakes myself.

>>723669094
>post screenshot from boss with healthbar showing in the silksong thread
>get multiple autists screeching at me for "cheating"
never got old

>>723669094
This does honestly sound like it would make the game more enjoyable. Silksong is probably way better when you convert it back to being a metroidvania instead of a fucking survival game.

>>723658574 (OP)
Yes, the days of struggling with retarded control schemes and poor design choices / executions are long over for me.

>>723669729
It definitely saved me a ton of time on the repetitive runbacks. I could actually progress on the boss without having to waste time running back the same path over and over and hoping I didn't take too much damage.

>>723669794
Masochists will insist you didn't beat the game, but then, who gives a fuck what strangers on the internet think about the way you play a game?

>>723658574 (OP)
>Do you install QOL mods for your first playthrough of a game?
Absolutely not. Any mods for a first playthrough, and you didn't beat the game, no matter the mod.

>>723665396
You are a liar. Easy mode and trans flags are the most popular mods and you support them.

If i have more fun yeah
Most of the time no
Vanilla usually is good enough

>>723658574 (OP)
The new update for Shad made performance even worse.

>>723658574 (OP)
Very much depends on the game but typically no. Main exceptions are things like adding widescreen support, fixing game breaking bugs and crashes, unlocking at least 60fps, etc. Other than that I generally want to understand the suffering before I attempt to remove it.

>>723670540
Sony has inserted sleeper agents into the dev team to sabotage the project

>>723658574 (OP)
Usually not unless it's something like mouse fix for original Dead Space
I do get the unofficial patches tho

>see person playing deus ex for the first time
>they're using GMDX or revision

>>723669985
I agree which is why I enjoy my 20fps as intended.

>>723670540
What version has the best performance for Bloodborne right now? Latest ran like ass but I went back to 0.10.0 and it's fairly smooth other than the occasional slowdown

>>723658574 (OP)
I won't know what QOL it may need until I play it, dingus. What kind of question is this?

>>723658574 (OP)
Just widescreen

>>723674565
This. I play until something annoys me enough to look for a mod to fix it.

>>723658574 (OP)
I think the only time I installed a QoL mod was colored map icons for Dragon's Dogma 2 because the vanilla icons blended in with the map and made them a little harder to find than needed

>fps unlocker
>fov slider
>ps button prompts
yep, it's gaming time

>>723669882
>>723669794
>Masochists
There wasn't a single boss in that game that took more than a half dozen tries.
What the fuck were you morons doing that made the runbacks terrible?
The runback teaches you how to deal with the boss if you're bad, and if you're not bad take <60 seconds.

>>723667325
Getting 20 levels at the start makes that part of the game easier. Getting a bigger backstock of vials doesnt make the game easier at any point since you can still only ever carry the same max amount.

Anecdotally it seems like the average BB player only has to farm vials once and and it's half way way through the game, so it's not something you even do at the start, it's something that usually happens against enemies that aren't really threatening anymore.

>>723659978
pc gamers love to LARP about being hardcore gamers but then install easy mode mods for all of their games lmao

>>723670116
you are a retarded nigger and should be executed via bludgeoning

>>723675375
You vastly underestimate how terrible your average person is at video games.

>>723658574 (OP)
Usually keep to only using cosmetic mods, but sometimes it's necessary. There's some games I only mean to play once that have content locked behind multiple playthroughs, so I always get the mod that lets you access all of it in a single run.

>>723664901
I installed that and the mod that removes master strikes. I don't care if it makes the game easier, it made the combat actually kind of fun.