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Anonymous No.723698448 [Report] >>723698576 >>723698794 >>723700792 >>723701286 >>723703345 >>723707474 >>723712032 >>723712228 >>723713275 >>723713278 >>723720465 >>723722554 >>723725054 >>723725080 >>723725171 >>723730340 >>723732841
GZDoom resumes development
Anonymous No.723698469 [Report] >>723709470
Anonymous No.723698576 [Report] >>723703423 >>723711221 >>723725321
>>723698448 (OP)
Can't wait for more AI sloppa. It sure works out well for MS atm.
Anonymous No.723698615 [Report]
name a single good wad released this year that actually needs the gzdoom enhancements
Anonymous No.723698794 [Report] >>723704497
>>723698448 (OP)
yeah now they left, normal people can get back to work
Anonymous No.723699830 [Report]
Why the fuck wouldn't it?
Dumb tranny retard
Anonymous No.723700792 [Report] >>723700838 >>723700983 >>723712915 >>723713082 >>723713236 >>723713552 >>723716515 >>723723832 >>723725658
>>723698448 (OP)
can somebody explain to a brainlet like me why an engine for a 30+ plus game needs to be continuously updated?
Anonymous No.723700838 [Report]
>>723700792
Try running Skulltag on modern hardware.
Anonymous No.723700983 [Report] >>723714316 >>723734934 >>723742662
>>723700792
please understand, it needs to run on six gorillion different tinkertranny OSes
Anonymous No.723701286 [Report] >>723701528 >>723703304 >>723708948 >>723726949 >>723727783
>>723698448 (OP)
Whats to even "develop"?
It runs doom.
Its been running doom for like 20 years now.
Anonymous No.723701528 [Report] >>723703219
>>723701286
GZDoom at this point is basically one of THE engines for indie FPS developers. If you just want to run Doom, there are better options.
Anonymous No.723703219 [Report] >>723705918 >>723712993
>>723701528
Cool but its a Doom emulator and nothing else.
It runs Doom so there's no reason for me to upgrade from the version I downloaded in 2013.
Anonymous No.723703290 [Report]
Le "No." chicken wins again.
Anonymous No.723703304 [Report]
>>723701286
Graf is endlessly tinkering with it for no real reason.
The troons splitting off from him will be no different. This is another reason why Quake is better - the sourceports for that only get updated every now and then, because what would be the point otherwise?
Anonymous No.723703345 [Report]
>>723698448 (OP)
UZDOOM disables texture filtering by default. Yeah, I think I'm done with Graf's retardation.
Anonymous No.723703423 [Report] >>723703545 >>723705257
>>723698576
>NOOOOOO you can't just use AI to spit out Linux dark mode detection code! You have to google 'Linux Dark Mode detection code' and copy-paste the top StackOverflow result!
Anonymous No.723703545 [Report] >>723705873 >>723722862 >>723727092
>>723703423
The code the LLM spat out didn't work, didn't compile and broke the build
Anonymous No.723704497 [Report]
>>723698794
Chatgpt isn't people
Anonymous No.723705257 [Report]
>>723703423
This but unironically, at least the top SO overflow result will have been looked at by other developers instead of being a product of a gaslighting-as-a-service word frequency predictor.
Anonymous No.723705873 [Report]
>>723703545
Anonymous No.723705918 [Report]
>>723703219
>its a Doom emulator
Anonymous No.723707474 [Report] >>723709579
>>723698448 (OP)
> - only allow numerical values for steamappid and discordappid

Ah yes, discord integration for a 30 year old game. Cool "development"
Anonymous No.723708948 [Report]
>>723701286
Features for even wackier modding than, in example, playing Mortal Kombat 2 inside Doom (complete with arcade (location) map) or RE4-ish gameplay.
Anonymous No.723709470 [Report]
>>723698469
lol
Anonymous No.723709579 [Report]
>>723707474
Gotta make sure you cover all bases when you just a tranny trynna groom kids.
Anonymous No.723711221 [Report]
>>723698576
Shut up troon
Anonymous No.723712032 [Report] >>723712664 >>723713036 >>723719784 >>723723225 >>723734119
>>723698448 (OP)
Why is there so much gay drama surrounding this project?
Anonymous No.723712228 [Report] >>723719114
>>723698448 (OP)
qrd?
Anonymous No.723712485 [Report] >>723718542
Does Graf still leave that godawful vaseline filter on by default?
Anonymous No.723712664 [Report] >>723712742 >>723719784 >>723736838
>>723712032
Because as far as the actual drama surrounding it, it's been settled. There's nothing more to come out of it for now, and whether UZDoom will make strides is simply something for time to tell, nothing else.

So what you're left with is gay drama, as culture war obsessed tourists have to try to squeeze blood from a stone due to the involvement of trannies. Mountains must be made out of molehills, the same tired memes must be spammed, etc. etc.
Anonymous No.723712742 [Report] >>723712941 >>723713162 >>723713746 >>723715040 >>723718305 >>723719784
>>723712664
I'm not up to date on any of this, but it sounds like you're trying to minimize tranny involvement (which is always disastrous for software projects without exception). In short, I don't believe you.
Anonymous No.723712915 [Report]
>>723700792
If I understand correctly, they're basically adding new features, to the point where if you want true vanilla experience, you either spend some time on the settings screen or just use a completely different port.
Anonymous No.723712941 [Report] >>723713017
>>723712742
>In short, I don't believe you
Or rather
>In short, I'm one of those culture war obsessed tourists
Anonymous No.723712993 [Report]
>>723703219
>and nothing else
Anon... I...
Anonymous No.723713017 [Report]
>>723712941
Don't care fuck off
Anonymous No.723713036 [Report]
>>723712032
>project is literally a ZDoom fork called Gay ZDoom
>why is there so much gay drama
gee i wonder
Anonymous No.723713082 [Report]
>>723700792
Why is DSDA being actively developed? Why Woof? Why Nugget?
Anonymous No.723713162 [Report] >>723719784
>>723712742
The drama was that the maintainer of GZDoom didn't treat it as a team project, which was settled when the other contributors forked the project as UZDoom.
Culture war tourists of course like to spin it into a developer being forced out of his own project (which hasn't happened)
Anonymous No.723713236 [Report]
>>723700792
there's some valid performance upgrades every now and then
but yeah. i'm running gzdoom 1.7 from whenever the fuck ago and it works fine to this day
Anonymous No.723713275 [Report] >>723719784
>>723698448 (OP)
Why do open source fags create so much gay drama all the time? It's just a sourceport for a 30 year old game how much controversy could there possibly be?
Anonymous No.723713278 [Report]
>>723698448 (OP)
Don't care, not going back
Anonymous No.723713310 [Report] >>723714130
Just use Helion.
Anonymous No.723713552 [Report]
>>723700792
Because it isn't based on the original engine anymore.

GZDoom is what's known as a "sourceport." In essence, it's using the original source code to make what's effectively a new engine (or new iteration of the original) that's able to run the intended game, but with new capabilities for how it can be played or for how people can make content for it.

In the case of DOOM, this can be things like being easier to run on modern systems and modern resolutions, or to make the multiplayer be more akin to a modern shooter. In the case of GZDoom, one of the biggest features is ZScript, a programming language that basically lets you do whatever you want while still having compatibility with DOOM, creating a powerful foundation where you can mix and match content from the past 30 years.

It's stuff like that as to why it keeps getting updated. After a certain point, it's basically an entirely new thing that's able to run DOOM, rather than a DOOM engine, but it still goes a bit beyond that compared to, say, being able to run DOOM in Garry's Mod or Majora's Mask
Anonymous No.723713746 [Report]
>>723712742
They already banned Marisa on day 1 and the first actual update was to disable bilinear filtering be default. So already they're ahead of Graf on not being retarded.
Anonymous No.723714130 [Report]
>>723713310
>main features
>limited ZDoom support
>only basic DECORATE support
>no Zscript support
>no client/server multiplayer
>not even compatible with demos
Wowee zowee, what a sourceport
>chart is how you can now get to play slaughter sloppa at higher framerates
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous No.723714316 [Report]
>>723700983
This is why democratic centralism is a thing
Anonymous No.723715040 [Report]
>>723712742
>I don't know anything about this, but here are my uninformed faggot opinions
It's early in the day so good chance you'll be outdone but for now this is the gayest post of the day I've seen.
Anonymous No.723716515 [Report]
>>723700792
GZDoom isn't Doom, it's an indie game engine that is compatible with Doom game files.
Anonymous No.723718305 [Report]
>>723712742
>I'm not up to date on any of this, but ACK!
You lost tranny.
Anonymous No.723718542 [Report]
>>723712485
Of course!
Anonymous No.723719114 [Report] >>723720228 >>723723454 >>723724718
>>723712228
GZDoom, owned by Graf Zahl for more then 20 years was forked by trans-positive devs. They were covering for him while he was taking a small break and decided to fork it when he pushed AI code without review into his own project.
Anonymous No.723719784 [Report] >>723720315
>>723712032
>>723712664
>>723712742
>>723713275
>>723713162
There's drama because, as usual, you seriously have grooming trannies invading a male-dominated niche hobby. Blaming the normal people for bringing in a culture war makes no sense when trannies make it a point to do it to themselves inch-by-inch.
Anonymous No.723720228 [Report]
>>723719114
>dpJudas
lol, lmao
Anonymous No.723720315 [Report] >>723722425
>>723719784
UZDoom is the one that's banned grooming trannies so far, not GZDoom
Get your facts straight, tourist
Anonymous No.723720465 [Report]
>>723698448 (OP)
did they kick out the useless "leader"?
Anonymous No.723722425 [Report]
>>723720315
That's not what I was trying to imply. GZDoom is based.
Anonymous No.723722554 [Report]
>>723698448 (OP)
why would it have stopped? because a tranny got upset? if we stopped doing things when mentally ill people got upset the entire world would grind to a halt right now
Anonymous No.723722862 [Report] >>723725616 >>723733917
>>723703545
>read carefuly and later verify if it works
>it works
>use it
wooow
Anonymous No.723723108 [Report]
Why's no one made GZDoom Builder or some alternative for Linux? Given Doom's existence on every system out there, I thought this would exist for sure.
Anonymous No.723723225 [Report]
>>723712032
troons attempted a hostile takeover
Anonymous No.723723454 [Report] >>723723657 >>723723830
>>723719114
>when he pushed AI code without review into his own project.
why use AI to code if you could code just fine for decades prior?
Anonymous No.723723539 [Report] >>723723730 >>723723814 >>723724965
>TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES, IT'S ALL TRANNIES, NOBODY COULD POSSIBLY DISLIKE M— I MEAN GRAF
It's so funny seeing the blatant astroturfing that goes on in threads about Doom-related drama. You can see these retards come here to spam because they're afraid of getting called out on the DWF for their bullshit.
Anonymous No.723723657 [Report] >>723723814 >>723724449 >>723724815 >>723724965
>>723723454
Because Graf Zahl is and has been retarded for decades. The AI sloppa isn't his first offense or anything, people are just sick of dealing with his horseshit and AI sloppa is a good excuse to fork the project and be done with the issues his leadership has been causing for the past TWO FUCKING DECADES.
Anonymous No.723723730 [Report] >>723723912
>>723723539
0/10 bait, go become a statistic, tranny.
Anonymous No.723723814 [Report] >>723723912
>>723723539
>>723723657
kill yourself no-dick freak
Anonymous No.723723830 [Report]
>>723723454
it was to detect whether dark mode should be used on linux, which is something any programmer would have to look up either traditionally via google/stack overflow, or via an llm
Anonymous No.723723832 [Report] >>723727459
>>723700792
Because GZDoom moved from being just a source port to being a weird semi-commerical engine for modders and game developers. All features and additions aren't made for DOOM, but for modders to do modder shit with. Except Graf can't be fucking assed to make functioning netcode after a decade because he's a lazy shit who can't code.
Anonymous No.723723912 [Report]
>>723723814
>>723723730
saar pls redeem code you use gpt for good doom port yes yes i rape you later okay?
Anonymous No.723724056 [Report] >>723724176 >>723724640
No one liked Graf before this and the only people who are championing him now are tourists who only play Brutal Doom once a year.
Anonymous No.723724176 [Report]
>>723724056
You can tell who in these threads actually kept up with GZDoom development and has rightfully gotten sick of Graf "[NO]" Zahl and who saw someone post that random attentionwhoring github comment and immediately jumped to seething about trannies
Anonymous No.723724449 [Report] >>723724649
>>723723657
God I am so sick of this rhetoric. If Graf's leadership was such a problem then why didn't anyone step up for the past two decades and create something a lasting legacy like GZDoom, forked or not?
Wait, I'll tell you, it's two words: SKILL ISSUE!
Graf is fucking GOATED and people like you who act like backseat programmers don't even have the drive to last 20+ years like he did for fucking free no less.
>G-graf sucks BWAHHH BWAHHH if it were me I would've done it THIS way instead!!!
Holy F U C K, if you or anyone adjacent to you actually made something good naturally people would gravitate towards it and ditch GZDoom. Except that never happened for 20+ YEARS, it has and forever will stand through the test of time fucking forever. He has one thing you and all of his detractors will never have: autistic drive.
Anonymous No.723724640 [Report]
>>723724056
culture warriors do not play games
Anonymous No.723724649 [Report] >>723724759 >>723725108
>>723724449
>If Graf's leadership was such a problem then why didn't anyone step up for the past two decades and create something a lasting legacy like GZDoom, forked or not?
>tourist who doesn't know about the vkDoom debacle
lol
Anonymous No.723724718 [Report] >>723724840
>>723719114
So transsexuals tried to take over his project? And now there are transexuals in these threads denying it? lol
Anonymous No.723724759 [Report] >>723725108
>>723724649
>vkDoom
Don't even get me fucking started. It's insane.
Anonymous No.723724815 [Report] >>723724941 >>723725024
>>723723657
GZDoom has never crashed on me and simply runs well, in comparison to some multi billion dollar company software products that I've been using over the years (I've been working with PCs since 1991 at least).

I don't know if the guy is retarded or not, but I'd rather have his work speak for him. And the quality of this work, as observed by me, is good.
Anonymous No.723724840 [Report] >>723724965 >>723725863
>>723724718
tourist go home
Anonymous No.723724941 [Report]
>>723724815
Graf is massively retarded and most of the work on GZDoom was not done by him. He just started the project (which itself was a fork of ZDoom.)
Anonymous No.723724965 [Report]
>>723723657
>>723723539
>>723724840
Your kind is easy to spot, both online and in real life (your dress doesn't fool anyone, look in the mirror tranny freak).
Anonymous No.723724994 [Report] >>723725206 >>723725345
>dramafaggots who don't even play Doom try to make this about trannies while downplaying how much of a faggot Graf is
Anonymous No.723725024 [Report] >>723725483 >>723725596 >>723725650
>>723724815
>I don't know if the guy is retarded or not, but I'd rather have his work speak for him. And the quality of this work, as observed by me, is good.
You're making the same retarded mistake people make with every collaborative project. GZDoom is not Graf's sole work. Fuck, some of the worst parts of GZDoom are due to Graf being a stubborn cunt and shooting down feature requests/change requests. The whole reason why GZDoom has gotten so many good updates in the last year or so is because Graf fucked off and let the team work on things for a bit. Graf's leadership has ALWAYS been the #1 source of GZDoom issues even as far back as when he tried to nuke the project over someone asking for it not to break on ATI video cards.
Anonymous No.723725045 [Report] >>723725139
I swear I've heard this Graf guy's name from my programmer friends talking about coding lolcows but it was never in the context of Doom. Did this guy do other stuff besides an open source Doom project?
Anonymous No.723725054 [Report]
>>723698448 (OP)
>dpjudas
Anonymous No.723725080 [Report]
>>723698448 (OP)
who cares, theres like 50000 different doom ports
Anonymous No.723725108 [Report] >>723725213
>>723724649
>>723724759
>No notable mods made specifically for it
>Dead project
Graf wins again. Great case you made for yourself tranny. Try again.
Anonymous No.723725139 [Report]
>>723725045
iirc he has done programmer autism in other communities to smaller degrees but he's primarily just a famous programmer lolcow even outside of the doom community
Anonymous No.723725171 [Report]
>>723698448 (OP)
WTF
This is NOT okay
Anonymous No.723725206 [Report] >>723725441
>>723724994
Yes yes he hurt your feelings four years ago tranny, get over it
Anonymous No.723725213 [Report] >>723725402
>>723725108
>he had to look it up because he didn't know what it was
Again, you are a tourist. Stop speaking on topics you know nothing about.
Anonymous No.723725321 [Report] >>723725421 >>723725780
>>723698576
>ai bad
reddit
Anonymous No.723725345 [Report]
>>723724994
>dramafaggots who don't even play Doom
They don't even play vidya. "Tranny" screechers will never play a game.
Anonymous No.723725394 [Report]
its been great to see normies really turn on troons in the last couple of years, absolutely NOBODY can stand them anymore, they couldnt shut the fuck up and dug their own (early) grave
Anonymous No.723725402 [Report]
>>723725213
You could shut me down right now tranny if you named a single active SOURCE PORT that objectively surpassed GZDoom in popularity for complex mods in the past 20 years.
But you won't because you know you can't. Keep trying to deflect tranny.
Anonymous No.723725421 [Report]
>>723725321
kys Ranjeet
Anonymous No.723725441 [Report] >>723725612 >>723725852 >>723725952 >>723730919 >>723733537
>>723725206
>trawling through the forums looking through any possible interaction grad had with a tranny so he can make graf look like LE BASED AND REDPILLED CULTURE WARRIOR instead of the massive fucking retard that he is
In a more just world, you'd be rangebanned for this kind of manipulative niggardry.
Anonymous No.723725483 [Report] >>723725686
>>723725024
That may be so, but from my experience no serious software can survive a retard of the magnitude suggested here. Simply speaking, if the guy WAS a cretin, then gzdoom would never be able to become stable. So the truth lies somewhere in between, I guess.
Anonymous No.723725596 [Report]
>>723725024
>when he tried to nuke the project over someone asking for it not to break on ATI video cards

source? should be nice for a bedtime read
Anonymous No.723725612 [Report] >>723725721 >>723734127
>>723725441
He has a legacy and you don't. Neither do your tranny boyfriends. The end.
Anonymous No.723725616 [Report]
>>723722862
debugging code is harder than writing it
Anonymous No.723725650 [Report]
>>723725024
FYI no matter when you inject you will never be a woman just letting you know
Anonymous No.723725658 [Report]
>>723700792
Because it's fun.
Anonymous No.723725686 [Report] >>723725793
>>723725483
>but from my experience no serious software can survive a retard of the magnitude suggested here
It almost died. Multiple times, even. GZDoom has nearly stopped development on no less than separate occasions because of Graf throwing a hissy fit over something retarded. He's not a cretin (there are far worse spergs, especially in the Doom scene) but he is an idiot and a poor leader, which is why people are taking the AIslop forcepushing bullshit as an excuse to change the management.
Hell, Graf hasn't even been banned from contributing to the fork— they explicitly encouraged him to work on it— he's just been told that he won't get to be in a leadership position again.
Anonymous No.723725721 [Report]
>>723725612
legacy of retardation like many other programmer savants online
Anonymous No.723725780 [Report] >>723725941
>>723725321
No, "AI" is not bad. LLM generated code is absolutely bad.
Anonymous No.723725793 [Report] >>723725925
>>723725686
Remember when a wad used a graphics bug in ZDoom to make fucked up graphics and Graf was so ass mad about it not running on GZDoom that he ghosted the development team for so long that they literally thought he quit?
Anonymous No.723725852 [Report]
>>723725441
blatanty astroturfing troon
please fuck off back to whatever discord server you crawled out
Anonymous No.723725863 [Report]
>>723724840
>go to gitub page
>guy who runs the project did one minor update
>endless transvestite avatars freaking out and threatening him

Nah I'll stand by my take.
Anonymous No.723725925 [Report] >>723726049
>>723725793
>random asspull without any proof whatsoever
lmao
also why are you replying to yourself
Anonymous No.723725941 [Report]
>>723725780
?? AI writes better code than 90% of programmers so long as you feed it the right contextual information, and it’s fast as fuck to generate prototype code for almost any function
Anonymous No.723725952 [Report]
>>723725441
everyone hates you and is repulsed by your genital mutilation
Anonymous No.723725991 [Report] >>723726036 >>723726204
This is literally
LITERALLY
Us against the Nazis
If you're with GZDoom you're on the WRONG side of history
Anonymous No.723726036 [Report]
>>723725991
TRVKE
Anonymous No.723726049 [Report] >>723726279 >>723726363 >>723726571 >>723734331
>>723725925
Here's the thread where he's having a melty about it, tourist.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98246-cacowards-2017-discussion-24-years/
Anonymous No.723726198 [Report] >>723726431
Everyone coming together to defeat Graf and create a super dev team is like the fuckin Avengers it's so awesome
Anonymous No.723726204 [Report]
>>723725991
TELL EM SIS
Anonymous No.723726269 [Report]
I'll probably use UZDoom over GZDoom
Anonymous No.723726279 [Report] >>723726363 >>723726383
>>723726049
>I remember when graf made an alt to call me the "donald trump of freedoom" not too long ago
>all these wannabe /pol/ culture warriors ITT running defense for a guy who makes sockpuppet accounts to call people trump as an insult
Anonymous No.723726363 [Report] >>723726527 >>723726643
>>723726049
Holy fuck, troons are so deluded, it's crazy.
I just scrolled through that whole thread and the only post he made is pic related. Is that the
>melty
you were talking about? Fucking LMAO. That is the most lukewarm critique about the direction or decisionmaking of an award I have ever seen.

>>723726279
Why are you replying to yourself? Also holy, take your fucking meds. These delusions aren't healthy.
Anonymous No.723726383 [Report]
>>723726279
>hates trump
>hates trannies
average /pol/ poster phenotype
Anonymous No.723726431 [Report]
>>723726198
I mean that might look sincere but the blatant tone gives it away.
Anonymous No.723726514 [Report]
The tranny astroturfing and -samefagging in this thread is crazy, lmao.
Anonymous No.723726527 [Report] >>723726753
>>723726363
you seem upset
Anonymous No.723726571 [Report] >>723726753
>>723726049
What I see is everyone else having a melty over Graf. Wow this aged well for him.
>2017
Has he always had an active smear campaign against him? These people are faggots
Anonymous No.723726643 [Report] >>723727023 >>723727272
>>723726363
>tourist thinks everywhere is like 4chan and as such has no barometer for what a spergout is on other sites
>tourist doesn't know that graf was sperging out about lilith for months in now-deleted posts solely because it didn't run on GZD
>tourist is too blind to see that the mod graf is recommending is Waterlab GZD, a bland as fuck mod that Graf only likes because it was designed for GZDoom
el oh el
Anonymous No.723726674 [Report]
uzdoom sounds stupid
uzz doom
Anonymous No.723726753 [Report] >>723726831
>>723726527
not an argument, troon

>>723726571
this, lmao. all he said was "the winner of this award sucks ass and it makes me question the decisionmaking here" and everyone starts sperging out lol
Anonymous No.723726794 [Report] >>723726935 >>723730631
>TROONS TROONS TROONS
What's your favorite DOOM wad?
Anonymous No.723726814 [Report] >>723726901
What if it's Graf himself sperging about Graf being based?
Anonymous No.723726831 [Report] >>723727023
>>723726753
>all he said was "the winner of this award sucks ass and it makes me question the decisionmaking here"
You're forgetting the part where he's seething about that winner because it's the mod that didn't run on GZDoom, tourist.
Anonymous No.723726901 [Report]
>>723726814
That'd be based
Anonymous No.723726935 [Report] >>723727009
>>723726794
Dangeresque Doom when?
Anonymous No.723726949 [Report] >>723727020
>>723701286
it needs to run more doom, better doom, faster doom, vr hentai doom, everything doom, what is so hard to fucking understand?
Anonymous No.723727009 [Report] >>723727576
>>723726935
>LOOKS LIKE I'M GONNA HAVE TO JUUUUUUUUMP
>*hup*
Anonymous No.723727020 [Report] >>723728045
>>723726949
Vanilla Doom keyboard only is the only way anyone should play Doom you reddit zoomer
Anonymous No.723727023 [Report]
>>723726643
>no barometer for what a spergout is on other sites
If you think his post counts as a spergout, you are mentally ill.
>graf was sperging out about lilith for months in now-deleted posts
>now-deleted posts
How convenient!
>the mod graf is recommending is Waterlab GZD, a bland as fuck mod that Graf only likes because it was designed for GZDoom
Did he confirm this? Or what do you base this on?

>>723726831
Can you point me to the part of his post where he is seething about the mod because it doesn't run on GZDoom? He didn't say that anywhere, troon. Why are you making shit up?
Anonymous No.723727092 [Report]
>>723703545
>he pulled
Your fault retard
Anonymous No.723727272 [Report] >>723727343 >>723727823
>>723726643
Am I being gaslit here? There's over a dozen people pouncing on his only post in that thread. Sure I can see your point that it's in poor taste to promote a wad for your own port but everyone else is sperging out.
Anonymous No.723727343 [Report]
>>723727272
>Am I being gaslit here?
Of course you are. The troon you are replying to was probably one of the people sperging out at him in that thread.
Anonymous No.723727459 [Report] >>723727586 >>723727657
>>723723832
What's stopping GZDoom and Zandronum from merging together?
Anonymous No.723727567 [Report]
So what exactly has Graf done to deserve being called a lolcow aside from not bending the knee?
Anonymous No.723727576 [Report] >>723727769
>>723727009
>Rangeresque
>Episode 1 - Rangeresque, Too?
Anonymous No.723727586 [Report]
>>723727459
I'm sad about it too
Anonymous No.723727657 [Report]
>>723727459
Zandronum and GZDoom basically went in two opposite directions when building on ZDoom so to combine them now would mean throwing out a lot of the improvements Zandronum made for multiplayer and remaking them to fit GZDoom's version of the engine which no one wants to do.
Anonymous No.723727769 [Report]
>>723727576
>STROGGUCCIIIIIIIIIIII
Anonymous No.723727783 [Report] >>723728031 >>723729215
>>723701286
Well for one they could fix the abysmal fucking performance. Campaigns like Blade of Agony are genuinely unplayable and it's only partially the campaign devs' fault
Anonymous No.723727823 [Report] >>723728036
>>723727272
>There's over a dozen people pouncing on his only post in that thread
Because it's an unwarrented spergout in a thread meant to be celebrating the winners of a yearly community award coming from the lead dev on GZDoom, specifically centered around the fact that one of the winners is a mod that he hates because it doesn't work on the port he worked on.
https://web.archive.org/web/20211018202858/https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=56634&start=15
Graf had a history of sperging out about this specific mod. He had genuine hatred for it, and it was solely because it didn't run on GZDoom.
Anonymous No.723728031 [Report]
>>723727783
ai code will solve this i think
Anonymous No.723728036 [Report] >>723728123 >>723728315 >>723728720
>>723727823
>it was solely because it didn't run on GZDoom.
Again, what do you base this on? Just your mentally ill headcanon? Maybe it was just a really shitty mod that he felt didn't deserve this much praise.
Also, the fact that you are able to pull up these ancient forum posts makes me believe that you are actually on the dev team of this mod or at least affiliated with them. Would explain the 10 year long grudge.
Anonymous No.723728045 [Report]
>>723727020
>keyboard only
fuck off, pseud
Anonymous No.723728123 [Report] >>723728153
>>723728036
>Mom, look! I'm trolling on the internet!
Anonymous No.723728153 [Report] >>723728227
>>723728123
not an argument
Anonymous No.723728227 [Report]
>>723728153
>not an argument
Anonymous No.723728269 [Report] >>723740205
Golden Souls 3 when
Ashes: Death Zone when
Anonymous No.723728315 [Report] >>723728372
>>723728036
>Again, what do you base this on?
>Maybe it was just a really shitty mod that he felt didn't deserve this much praise.
Hi, Graf. Go back to talking to ChatGPT.
Anonymous No.723728329 [Report]
>instantly resorts to ad hominem when called out on his bullshit
every time, lol
Anonymous No.723728372 [Report] >>723728714
>>723728315
>more ad hominem
again, not an argument
Anonymous No.723728714 [Report] >>723728834
>>723728372
stfu, troon, you got owned, lol. Cope, seethe and dilate
Anonymous No.723728720 [Report] >>723729403
>>723728036
I don't think someone thinking clearly about the quality of a mod would go out of their way to call its dev a "retarded loser" because they made it incompatible with a source port.
Anonymous No.723728834 [Report]
>>723728714
>troon
Do troons really get off on calling other people "troons" as a slur? Such a weird phenomenon.
Anonymous No.723729215 [Report]
>>723727783
*Renders all ur polygons one-by-one*
Use case for optimized rendering?
Anonymous No.723729402 [Report]
post the tranny melty comment
>mentions ovaries when he doesn't have them
Anonymous No.723729403 [Report] >>723729569 >>723729776 >>723729879
>>723728720
I just took a look at this mod (pic related) and yeah, the guy is right. This is absolutely retarded and does not deserve to win any awards.
Anonymous No.723729404 [Report]
Idk I just play the superior Zandronum and call it a day
Anonymous No.723729569 [Report] >>723730049
>>723729403
>t. hasn't played it
Anonymous No.723729776 [Report] >>723730049 >>723730115
>>723729403
is this intentional? what the fuck am I looking at
Anonymous No.723729818 [Report] >>723732232
Whats the Quake equivalent to GZDoom?
Anonymous No.723729879 [Report] >>723729975 >>723730198
>>723729403
>lilith.pk3
what is it with troons and the name "lilith" anyway? i keep seeing it
Anonymous No.723729975 [Report]
>>723729879
Adam's first wife in the Bible and a demon later on in various religious mythology.
Anonymous No.723730049 [Report] >>723730147 >>723730337
>>723729569
I looked at some gameplay and that was enough for me.

>>723729776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AatDoe8cnYw
Yeah, the corruption is intentional. What absolute garbage.
Anonymous No.723730115 [Report] >>723730251
>>723729776
lilith.pk3's entire shtick was that it abuses the fuck out of glitches in zdoom intentionally to create very specific, fucked-up looking visuals. It was genuinely really impressive because ti required the dev to have a really indepth understanding of ZDoom in order to accomplish what he wanted, which is why it won a Cacoward. The reason why it didn't work in newer sourceports is because GZDoom fixed those bugs.

Basically, imagine if someone made a Mario World ROMhack that only worked on ZSNES because it abused ZSNES bugs and the SNES9X dev started sperging out and calling that ROMhacker a retarded loser because the ROM isn't compatible with SNES9X, and you have the picture of what went down.
Anonymous No.723730147 [Report]
>>723730049
>Freelook
Downvoted
Anonymous No.723730198 [Report]
>>723729879
It actually isn't a tranny thing, in this case. The dude just used the name lilith because he thought it sounded cool.
Anonymous No.723730251 [Report] >>723730619 >>723730806
>>723730115
making a game eyerape on purpose doesn't make it any less retarded. I truly don't see how this is praiseworthy. Is it trying to be like cruelty squad or something?
I hate looking at it
Anonymous No.723730337 [Report] >>723730426 >>723730487 >>723730708
>>723730049
Gosh, that's so hecking cool and scary at the same time?! Just like the MyHouse.wad thingy. Better go watch a 45min YouTube video essay about the whole thing!!!
Anonymous No.723730340 [Report]
>>723698448 (OP)
Just dropping from an airplane: Based! Kick trannies!
Anonymous No.723730426 [Report]
>>723730337
KEK look at that reddit zoomer SLOP
Anonymous No.723730487 [Report]
>>723730337
Midnight is such a fucking faggot. That video of Decino making fun of him was right on the nose.
Anonymous No.723730619 [Report] >>723730806 >>723730913
>>723730251
It'd be retarded if it was just random corruption and glitching, but it isn't. The stuff that happens is broadly pretty consistent and the dev went out of his way to fix all unintentional bugs. It's in the same vein as stuff like Memory of a Broken Dimension even though that never got more than a demo, sadly or really fucked up NotITG modcharts like FMS_Cat's work where the appeal is seeing how far you can push the surreal visuals without actually breaking the engine.

It's definitely not easy to look at, obviously, but there's a difference between "I get what this doing even if it isn't for me" and "the dev is a retarded loser" and Graf is an obnoxious faggot who went for the latter.
Anonymous No.723730631 [Report] >>723730783 >>723730890
>>723726794
myhouse.pk3 got me into DOOM in the first place, so I'm gonna go with that. Quirkdom was pretty rad too, since it makes similar use of lineportals
Anonymous No.723730708 [Report] >>723730882
>>723730337
Lmao, I love how every single one of this fag's videos has near identical titles.

>The Thing You Can't Defeat - DOOM's Creepiest And Most Depressing Mod
>Columbine - DOOMs Most Controversial And Disturbing Mod
>Rootpain - The Most Controversial And Disturbing DOOM Mod
>Do Not Play - DOOM's Most Traumatizing Mod
>The Forest - DOOM's Scariest And Most Controversial Mod
>MyHouse.WAD - DOOM's Most Disturbing Mod
Anonymous No.723730783 [Report]
>>723730631
>mytroon
Go back
Anonymous No.723730806 [Report]
>>723730619
>>723730251
It's also worth noting that video compression tends to make games that do this sort of weird glitchy visual style look a lot worse than they actually do, since video compression tends to muddy the fuck out of the details and make it way more eyerape than it is on the player's end.
Anonymous No.723730882 [Report]
>>723730708
It's algorithm bait
Anonymous No.723730890 [Report] >>723730962 >>723742125
>>723730631
I like MyHouse too.
They found the guy who made it finally because his ex-wife posted shit about it on TikTok. The whole thing is just a vent piece about his divorce. He's not even gay. She kept the house.
Anonymous No.723730893 [Report]
They come to me with push request in their hands,
they offered me!, i didn't ask them!
i wasn´t hitting up anyone's DMs
i was running from that, when i got out i was in that
i was already through that , i had that
i had that, i had the GitHub, i went to the repository
i went to doomworld, i had it all
and i looked at it and said, this is even bigger drama than the one i just got out off
i don't wanna take my time to code proper linux dark mode detection
i got ChatGPT and Grok, and ten or fifteen code monkeys
what the hell i wanna go off and into and actually code for?
code for what?, tranny approval, i got all the code in the world
I'm the project lead man, i run the repository guy
i decide what gets push and when they push it at
What am i, gonna run around
acting like some doom world moderator somewhere
for somebodies else´s push?
i make the sourceport man
i roll the updates, the Doom is mine
i commit to main

BEWARE
Anonymous No.723730913 [Report] >>723731450 >>723732456
>>723730619
Yes I also understand "what it's going for" but it doesn't make it any less unpleasant to see. I would also call the dev "a retarded loser", personally.
This guy might be a dev on this engine and a 20 year veteran of this community, but he's just a guy. he's not a community manager for a mega corporation and he doesn't have to be held to those standards. he's just a turbo autist and he is allowed to say whatever he wants.
Likewise, people can then not agree with him and say "hey man that was kinda rude and fucked up" and that's where the discussion can end

the fact this is bleeding out into some larger development drama is unhinged. death to all trannies.
Anonymous No.723730919 [Report]
>>723725441
not fooling anyone
Anonymous No.723730962 [Report]
>>723730890
Grim
Anonymous No.723731450 [Report]
>>723730913
>the fact this is bleeding out into some larger development drama is unhinged. death to all trannies.
It's bleeding out into larger dev drama because Graf brings it into dev drama, dumbass. He can't just comment on stuff as "just a turbo autist", he throws around his "authority" as the GZDoom lead to say shit like "we should ostracize anyone who makes [MOD I DON'T LIKE]" which is fucking retarded.
Anonymous No.723731909 [Report] >>723732235 >>723732903 >>723737361
what's up with trannies stirring drama wherever they go? is it attentionwhoring?
Anonymous No.723732028 [Report] >>723732079 >>723732664
Did GZDoom's multiplayer ever get better? I want to do some co-op.
Anonymous No.723732079 [Report]
>>723732028
Zandronum is the coop port
Anonymous No.723732232 [Report]
>>723729818
Darkplaces
Anonymous No.723732235 [Report]
>>723731909
it's typical male aggression combined with the female desire to constantly scheme and create drama from nothing
genuinely the worst combination for any community
Anonymous No.723732456 [Report]
>>723730913
>I don't like thing
>thing bad
>me mock thing
Anonymous No.723732664 [Report]
>>723732028
No. Some of the GZDoom devs that swapped to UZDoom talked about why it didn't happen because people were shitting on Graf for it. It was basically that they didn't have anyone with experiencing coding netcode and couldn't recruit anyone who did had it despite trying.
Anonymous No.723732710 [Report] >>723732781
And what abooot that paedo scandal?
Anonymous No.723732781 [Report] >>723732901
>>723732710
you're gonna have to be more specific, this is doom after all
Anonymous No.723732841 [Report]
>>723698448 (OP)
does graf still spergs out if you ask why gzdoom needs so much fucking ram to work?
Anonymous No.723732901 [Report] >>723733186 >>723733581
>>723732781
Well back in 2020 i guess there was a scandal on doomworld. It was about one of the developers and minors. How did that one ended up?
Anonymous No.723732903 [Report]
>>723731909
>is it attentionwhoring?
That's why most of them transitioned in the first place
Anonymous No.723732982 [Report] >>723733316
Graf Zahl kinda sucks with his decisions. I still haven't used to zscript. In fact, I'm not using it at all, because there's zero documentation. Just stick to ACS and Decorate.
Anonymous No.723733186 [Report] >>723733393 >>723733581
>>723732901
Oh that, well the trannies are trying to get the pedo back in a dev position despite that pedo still being banned from everything doom related.
Anonymous No.723733316 [Report] >>723733730
>>723732982
>there's zero documentation
https://zdoom-docs.github.io/staging/ZScript.html
https://zdoom-docs.github.io/staging/Api.html
?
Anonymous No.723733393 [Report]
>>723733186
Fucking tranners, man. Why are they invading even niche hobbies?
Anonymous No.723733537 [Report]
>>723725441
>mods help, I'm a faggot and I'm losing
maybe you should fork 4chan next nigger faggot
Anonymous No.723733581 [Report] >>723733698 >>723733871
>>723732901
>>723733186
name?
Anonymous No.723733698 [Report]
>>723733581
Capodecima
Anonymous No.723733730 [Report]
>>723733316
Oh, it appears they've finally updated it.
Anonymous No.723733871 [Report] >>723738819
>>723733581
Don't know if it's the same one the anons are talking about, but I think it's Marisa the Magician.
Anonymous No.723733917 [Report]
>>723722862
As a developer meself, I can tell you the couple times I've used AI for programming, it either shat out useless garble or had to rewrite most of what it spit out.
If you can't understand and change faulty code, you not only shouldn't be using AI, but you should refrain from calling you a developer or coder.
Anonymous No.723734119 [Report] >>723735725
>>723712032
Because graf zahl has been an insufferable faggot nobody liked for decades, long predating this estrogen-infused drama addicted board's decline or nonsense about aislop. Zoomies and newfags don't know anything BUT culture war garbage, and will do their damndest to claim everything is about culture war slop even to the faces of people who know the truth.
Anonymous No.723734127 [Report] >>723735725
>>723725612
a legacy of lolcowdom in and outside of the doom modding sphere isn't a legacy
Anonymous No.723734331 [Report]
>>723726049
reminder that graf was so pro tranny that he was completely on board with keeping marisa around and it was only everyone pulling their mods off the Zdoom forum that got him to slightly change his mind.
Anonymous No.723734934 [Report]
>>723700983
That code only needs to target 2 desktop environments, it should be made once and work in any distro that uses those two DEs.
Anonymous No.723735442 [Report]
LOL
>PC gaming....
Anonymous No.723735725 [Report] >>723736154
>>723734119
>>723734127
Anonymous No.723736154 [Report]
>>723735725
trannies get out of my doom, the chicken always wins baby!
Anonymous No.723736364 [Report] >>723737608 >>723739539
>tranny tranny tranny tranny
What do half of these posts have to do with Doom
Anonymous No.723736838 [Report]
>>723712664
>Because as far as the actual drama surrounding it, it's been settled. There's nothing more to come out of it for now, and whether UZDoom will make strides is simply something for time to tell, nothing else.

>So what you're left with is gay drama, as culture war obsessed tourists have to try to squeeze blood from a stone due to the involvement of trannies. Mountains must be made out of molehills, the same tired memes must be spammed, etc. etc.
Anonymous No.723737361 [Report]
>>723731909
You can't pump yourself full of hormones and not expect it to have an effect on your behavior, hormones literally control your behavior at any given time.
Anonymous No.723737608 [Report]
>>723736364
Nothing. It's just the same election tourists spamming the current culture war terms over and over because it's what rapeape thinks is quality discussion. Nobody perpetuating this drama on /v/ and /g/ even plays videogames, let alone doom in particular.
Anonymous No.723738819 [Report] >>723740718
>>723733871
he's been lurking the /vr/ thread
Anonymous No.723739539 [Report] >>723742497
>>723736364
Anonymous No.723740205 [Report]
>>723728269
Probably getting Ashes Epoch and Trenchfoot first
Anonymous No.723740718 [Report] >>723741970
>>723738819
ask the cocksucker how it feels to get banned from UZDoom right out the gate.
Anonymous No.723741970 [Report]
>>723740718
His troon buddies weren't happy
>https://github.com/UZDoom/UZDoom/issues/55
Anonymous No.723742125 [Report]
>>723730890
Found that out recently too and it was hilarious. Yeah, cool wad tho
Anonymous No.723742497 [Report]
>>723739539
>giving a fuck about the community and not just downloading and playing shit without looking what retards make it
Anonymous No.723742662 [Report]
>>723700983
Why are there so few made in the last ~5 years, did the broader community decide it's time to stop splitting?
Anonymous No.723743808 [Report]
Indian thread.